For the type of game that this is, I'm pleasantly surprised with how it looks. Lovely artwork on the cards, fun and pleasing colour schemes, and even the layout seems pretty modern (although that's a bit tough to see in a video). And that survival of the fittest theme is still such a cool way to implement a war game. I hope those publishers who still default to Carcasonne colours, Agricola art, magic the gathering formatting, and generic themes take note.
@NickGotch3 жыл бұрын
The original DS is still one of my favorite games, if not *the* favorite and after playing a game of DS Marine it finally has a competitor! I agree with everything Tom says here. My group tends to lean to the AP side so for us this is easily a 3 hour+ game but that's still quicker than the original (we tended toward 5 hours in that one). Love the game. Surprised it didn't get the seal of excellence.
@lastburning3 жыл бұрын
The cubes are easier to handle than custom animal meeples that also make the hexes too crowded. With cubes it's easier to see how many species are on every hex. I prefer cubes. I think this game looks beautiful.
@Tasarran3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I've also seen some sets of the original where they replace the dominance cones with animal figures and meeples, and I don't like that as much either. The cubes and cones are simplicity and beauty.
@theweebchannel4850 Жыл бұрын
I much prefer playing with animal meeples or miniatures... it looks better. With cubes, all I think about is the mechanics and not much the theme.
@ViolosD2I Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the cubes (though animal shaped dominance meeples are nice) but one thing I can't get my head around is why they *distributed* the colors here the way they did. The orange crabs... are brown. The brown-green lizards... are purple. The purple fish.... are blue. I can see the fish being blue (ideally their image as well) as the inky purple may best fit the octopuses. But come on, orange not for crabs?
@fearanarchy3 жыл бұрын
Body language was implying "Excellence". Sad it didn't get the full gold seal. It is a solid variant on the Dominant Species line.
@mydemon2 жыл бұрын
The length + meanness combo cost it the golden seal
@azizmandar3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how these compare from Toms point of view. The first is one of my favorites.
@mydemon2 жыл бұрын
I have to applaud Tom for not comparing it to the older game. I always thought videos with too many comparisons were not as useful.
@nothing33763 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MAKING COMPONENTS ITS OWN SECTION
@X4-Commander Жыл бұрын
Thank you, u help to understand need it or not!
@giantlobsterboy6447 күн бұрын
I'm so excited about this game. Im going to play the crabs while wearing all my crab clothing and use the pincers from Crabs Adjust Humidity.
@pokefrosch6173 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much for this review!
@SpellCaster18303 жыл бұрын
Now this is something that is interesting! I wonder if I should try this one or the first one first? Any opinions?
@Gathanokos Жыл бұрын
A heavy strategy with 'take that' element is something I always look for but rarely find. So much fun but the problem with the original was that it took too long to finish the game. Hopefully this one is a bit shorter as stated in BGG.
@matthewtaylor64463 жыл бұрын
On my last play, we were able to play a full game of three people in less than an hour and a half. I guess it just depends how long people think. We also were hitting the evolution cards hard :) It’s a good game. Still don’t know how I feel about the survival/extinction events being randomized. The original DS is my favorite game as of right now.
@evansj183 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite game so far this year. I really disliked the original Dominant Species but this version seemed totally excellent. It's 3 hours that just flies by.
@joelbloch083 жыл бұрын
I have played the original DS, from your explanation, it seems rather more complex than streamlined!
@lukaswernig97213 жыл бұрын
please do a comparison :)
@msa49983 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed .... did you like this better or the original? Thanks.
@wolvz70813 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why The Loop has been hung on the wall for so long now?
@lastburning3 жыл бұрын
It's paid advertisement by the sponsor.
@wolvz70813 жыл бұрын
@@lastburning oh ok that makes sense now. Thanks.
@lastburning3 жыл бұрын
@@wolvz7081 Tom told this on a Q&A video btw.
@ESCTom3 жыл бұрын
Very very glad that you reviewed this. I absolutely love the theme and card art, and i actually dont mind the 1990s biology textbook look of the board. But that take that element doesnt sound appealing to me at all. you just saved me $100.
@iefgrootaers3 жыл бұрын
Like the original, this is a war game at its core.
@ginsbu3 жыл бұрын
Tom said “kill enemy units” because this is a wargame in disguise. Looking forward to playing this one!
@hardyworld3 жыл бұрын
I've really been looking forward to this game and this review by Tom. I'm a BIG fan of the original and am curious about this new version that was rumored to be less 'heavy' than the original, with lower player count, and shorter game. After watching this review....it really sounds like Dominant Species, which I think may be both good and bad. Good in that it's a great, heavy game; bad in that it really doesn't accomplish being a 'lighter'/shorter version of the original. Maybe I was too hopeful that DS could be streamlined down into a 90-120 minute game with 4 players (as I thought it was rumored to be). It appears to include several changes from the original that should make this game a worthy sequel that deserves its own place on the shelf/table. Looking forward to playing!
@lastburning3 жыл бұрын
I played it once on TTS and it definitely felt shorter and lighter to me.
@hardyworld3 жыл бұрын
@@lastburning Good to know! Thank you!
@keelahrose11 ай бұрын
I thought this was an expansion. It's a whole nother game!
@ms988162 жыл бұрын
Why is this game completely out of stock everywhere?
@Riley512Ай бұрын
Cubes are easier to handle and stuck on each other when you are resolving movement. The game colors for cubes suck though and makes no sense whatsoever...
@ОлегГодунов-ц1ш10 ай бұрын
А где оценка?где баллы?
@tomragaert73503 жыл бұрын
The best thing about the original DS is the fact that the actions are resolved only after everyone has placed their action pawns. I understand that eliminating that element makes the game go a lot faster, but it's a huge downgrade for me.
@hermanpesina63283 жыл бұрын
I just wish the cover wasn't so terrifying 😕
@pokefrosch6173 жыл бұрын
Love the cover. It evokes the theme. Mean creatures in a mean game.
@zerohero19793 жыл бұрын
Tom better be careful. Sounds like he likes wars games but does not know it!
@LP-fy8wr3 жыл бұрын
This looks pretty cool but man oh man 4 hours is intimidating. Yikes
@matts31553 жыл бұрын
I did not enjoy this at all compared to the original version
@namethem002 жыл бұрын
How come?
@lastburning2 жыл бұрын
@@namethem00 No time to prepare for the events makes Marine feel more chaotic. Also some ability/event combinations seem broken.
@namethem002 жыл бұрын
@@lastburning ah dang, makes sense. That's disappointing especially considering it to be a more strategic game.