Don Bluth VS Ralph Bakshi December 1988 TV report

[@RedaDoodles]

Don Bluth's attitude was mature and wise. YES, there is plenty of room for different animation studios but snakes like Katzenberg didn't think so and actively tried to destroy any competition.

[@olskoolvideoarchives]

True!

[@dreamguardian8320]

Don Bluth is right, there is plenty of room for different animation studios, like Cartoon Saloon. The studio that brought you The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, and Wolfwalkers. And of course, there is Studio Ghibli/Ponoc, the studio that brought you Spirited Away, and Mary and the Witch's Flower.

[@JR-ju3kj]

Agreed,well said.There was and IS plenty of room for different animation studios but Disney never seemed to think so. It actually reminds me of how Marvel Comics and DC Comics don't think that there's plenty of room for other successful comic book publishers(but fortunately,independent comic book publishers like Image,Dark Horse,IDW and BOOM! have been able to hold their own).

[@dreamguardian8320]

I heard that Don Bluth and Disney really did compete with their movies. Oliver and Company vs. The Land Before Time, and The Great Mouse Detective vs. The Secret of NIMH. Don Bluth at least manage to win those two rounds.

[@tavvyprods1275]

Actually it was The Great Mouse Detective vs. An American Tail.

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@tavvyprods1275 And of course, An American Tail won.

[@disneyfan8719]

There was also a battle between The Little Mermaid and All Dogs go to Heaven. Guess who won that. Lol

[@plawson8577]

@@disneyfan8719 Disney had 3 Lemons on the Slot machine in 1989. They were going to win that Round regardless.

[@firedupplayers]

@@tavvyprods1275 I wonder if thats why The Great Mouse Detective was reissued in 1992

[@scottgamble7767]

I miss both if these masters. Wish they were still working today. There's a whole new world of acceptance for their sort of animation out there these days and I bet they would do well in 2020... once people get back in to the theaters.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I heard Don Bluth is trying to open up a new animation studio and people from Disney are leaving to take his side.

[@scottgamble7767]

@@dreamguardian8320 : Well... let's hope. Don has his own individuality and style that offers a different aesthetic than the overly corporate product and goals present in the current "in house" Disney studio heads and their agenda for their animated features. However, Don tried to do that years ago when he set up a studio in Ireland. Unfortunately that one didn't last, for some reason. Also, he is 83 years old these days. Many men in the industry don't make it past 93 - 94, as the pressures are personally rough on them. Most retire his age. Ray Harryhausen retired before he was 65. I don't think Bakshi is currently working either and both of them were the only other "stand outs" of that era in the animation world. (Actually, Harryhausen was older and Bakshi and Bluth were still doing stuff in the 80's and beyond). I applaud his efforts though, if he truly is endeavoring to carry on. 😁👍 I wish Ralph would do at least one more feature!

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@scottgamble7767 I feel that Cartoon Saloon was created in honer of Don Bluth, since he tried to make a studio in Ireland. Just a thought.

[@FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule]

Don Bluth is still working! He's working on animated shorts of fables from what i remember. He's also teaching 2D animation, storyboarding, layout, and many more things with the Don Bluth University online course! I'll be doing it when it starts in December. 2D isn't dead and there's more and more people who wanna do high quality 2D and are taking courses for it, though college isn't doing anything. There's also AMB Animation who's also got his own courses

[@samiam7342]

bakshi is a genius......the first time I ever saw heavy traffic, it blew my mind......It was so enlightening to see what animation could be besides a tool to tell children's stories........

[@emmarose4234]

Why is Shrek on the National Film Registry, but The Secret of NIMH isn’t? I WANT ANSWERS!

[@Wildcock23]

Me too… “The Secret of NIMH” is wonderful

[@snoteleks9955]

Cultural influence. Blame the internet.

[@emmarose4234]

@@snoteleks9955, amen!

[@northshore1000]

Really! The Secret of NIHM is magical and captivating. I adore it!!!

[@disneyfan8719]

Perhaps it's not popular enough to grab the attention of the NFPB. 🙁

[@Basicslag]

I love both these dudes

[@olskoolvideoarchives]

2 legends!

[@dreamguardian8320]

Don Bluth is truly a legend. Not just for An American Tail, The Land Before Time, All Dogs go to Heaven, and Anastasia, but also for Dragon's Lair and Space Ace. Not to mention, his one and only Disney short, The Small One. As for Ralph Bakshi, the only movies I liked from him was Fire and Ice, and Wizards.

[@matthewballon7553]

@@dreamguardian8320 Although it is a shame Ralph Bakshi and Don bluth stopped making films, Ralph Bakshi I understand since his film Cool World got screwed over.

[@johnvphillips]

@@dreamguardian8320 Didn't enjoy American Pop or Lord of the Rings?

[@barneyjuniorYT]

I love these guys, so talented and brilliant!

[@disneyfan8719]

1:57-2:04 This is why I never use the term "children's film" when talking about most films by Disney, Pixar, 80s Don Bluth or DreamWorks before 2015. Aside from Home on the Range, Bluth's 90s films and most of DreamWorks' stuff after 2015, I always refer to these as family films and family films ONLY! Thank you for clearing this out Don!

[@lucianacchia1088]

And I call them "animation"

[@essdeecard]

I'm making a playlist where animators are on the news and TV News Reports on Animation. I'm looking for more to add to the playlist. If any of you have any videos I can add, send them my way.

[@betagemslostmedia607]

The BetaGems channel also has "Ralph Bakshi Dec. 1988 intvw, Basing cartoons on toys is bad for kids," "Osamu Tezuka 1987 profile & interview Astro Boy creator," "Animator David Silverman 1982 Strange Case of Mr. Donnybrook's Boredom," "Chuck Jones 1984 interview & demonstration," and "The Making of Frog & Toad animator interview 9-3-87."

[@essdeecard]

@@betagemslostmedia607 OH THANK YOU! Those are exactly what I'm looking for!

[@wascho]

just checked and your playlist is awesome. these arent exactly news reports but televised appearances nonetheless. i know that mike judge (creator and animator of beavis and butthead) was on david letterman a few times and jon stewart, aaron mcgruder (creator of the boondocks) who was on charlie rose and cspan kzbin.info/www/bejne/rICaoaenhL5nbqM and richard williams and charles fleischer on some british news newtork kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp6kgqJ7ZqiVf7s and trey parker and matt stone (south park creators) who have innumerable interviews lol like this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKbZf3qsqpuHZ7c theres a few more that im probably missing but i'll add more if i remember. thanks for the playlist!

[@jonathanbarksdale4396]

Both of these films turned 35 this year

[@shadowhawktalks7814]

Mighty Mouse was spectacular!

[@firedupplayers]

I thought that was created by Max Fleischer

[@shadowhawktalks7814]

The original Mighty Mouse . The new adventures of Mighty Mouse was early 80's by Bakshi

[@inovakovsky]

@@firedupplayers No. Paul Terry. Bakshi did a reboot.

[@markrandle9025]

"2:07 I never made animation for children I made it for family" walt said

[@DennisTamayo]

During the production of the 1st season of A Pup Named Scooby-Doo in 1988, Daws Butler passed away on May 18th that year.

[@firedupplayers]

Its like Stan Lee going against Jack Kirby

[@wellesradio]

It’s nothing like that.

[@charlottegranger1449]

Don Bluth & Bakshi are two completely different types of artists. Only animation historians & enthusiasts rally know who Bakshi is. Bakshi has a unique style and hos work is mostly adult centered. Don Bluth is a brilliant animator who reaches out to a far more general audience & makes kids movies with generally darker themes and characters compared to Disney. When I was a teen I liked Bakshi more as his movies were edgy intelligent and targeted to adults, however, as a grew older while I still like his style I didn’t like his movies as much and the only one I still love is American Pop. Bluth on the other hand his animation is stunning, and a number of his movies I consider still classics. Bakshi does have that. Not to mention his movies lack positive portrayals of female characters completely he is much more focused in race and promiscuous sex crazed male characters like Fritz the Cat where females are nothing more than background conquests. Adult animation has come a long way since Bakshi. I still like Bakshi’s unique style and edginess but if I had to choose which animator I like best it would be Bluth by a landslide. I have seen many if not most of Bakshi’s films same with Bluth. I like Bakshi but I love Bluth.

[@randoomly39484]

Does anybody think that the Dragon scene in Shrek was inspired by Dragon's lair ? (Typing this while Jeffrey Katzenberg popped up on my screen lol )

[@jonathanfunnell4167]

LOVE THEM BOTH

[@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018]

I miss the full animation like when I grew up - it is missing something spiritual with CGI

[@markrandle9025]

3:44 "break for 5 years

[@CarlosGutierrez-di7xj]

Is that Leonard Maltin speaking in voiceover.

[@truthhopelove]

I think so. You even see him at 4:03. EDIT: Actually, he just said his own name at the end. 😅

[@philduprey7226]

Mahty Sco-cici

[@michaelrfalkowski2446]

Bakshi is a true artist

[@therespectedlex9794]

How does Katzenberg know what's funny? God I wish they brought back the eighties glasses.

[@hectormanuel8360]

I love Oliver!

[@WillScarlet16]

I don't know why people are always comparing them - the only similarity they have is that they weren't Disney. I call Bakshi the better man because unlike Bluth, he never sacrificed his own style to imitate what was successful. Bluth may have been on to something in the beginning, but by the 90s he was just copying whatever Disney did until his movies turned into the caricature of Disney. Bakshi isn't well known because studios and audiences had a hard time taking his movies, but Don Bluth basically ruined himself.

[@psychedelicpiper999]

The major reasons behind Don Bluth's failures had to do with MGM messing with the screenplays.

[@disneyfan8719]

To be fair, Don himself claimed that he had to deal with a lot of studio interference by the 90s. Then again, it was also said that Spielberg sometimes interfered with his own visions on American Tail and Land Before Time, but luckily it wasn't too much and those films still turned out great.

[@matthewballon7553]

@@disneyfan8719 And apparently he only had a week to write thumbelina's script, which sucks because the film had wasted potential, but I feel even if Don Bluth did have some difficulty working with George Lucas and Steven Spielberg and I understand his pain of having his visions not be realized, I think don Bluth was better off working with Steven Spielberg it does make me wonder if Spielberg would've made All dogs go To Heaven Better?