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[@wiggyg7337]

Tom's hardware did an overclock on the 13600k at 5.6ghz on an rtx 4090 and it matched the 13900k stock in most games. So the reason you aren't seeing gains could be a gpu bottleneck not the cpu

[@obamalastname34]

Hey men if i overclock i5-13600k cpu and have no gpu will that cause bottleneck? Newbie here The b650 and z690 ddr5 have similar price and the ddr4 z690 is like 15 usd difference

[@WereCatf]

@@obamalastname34 Whether you will have a bottleneck or not depends entirely on what you are doing. If you are doing something GPU-heavy, then it's most likely to be the GPU that is the bottleneck, and if you're doing something CPU-heavy, like e.g. code-compiling, CAD or such, the CPU is going to be the bottleneck.

[@wiggyg7337]

@@obamalastname34 If you have no GPU then you will be running off the IGPU so it will be a complete GPU bottleneck

[@AkshatSTR8EDGE]

Athlean-X :Gpu bottleneck is killing your gains.

[@savageland8402]

@@obamalastname34 save your money goo ddr4 is the 13600k has a good memory controler 4235 mhz c17 on the memory

[@AdaaDK]

maybe its actually worth it to buy a 13600k , for a DDR4 system in case you got a ton of fast DDR4 laying around, and just clock the snot out of it, for a 3090/4090 system. at least if you dont need the 14+ cores of the big chips, and only really game. ALSO, PLZ start telling people what system you test in, its a bad trend that more and more reviewers are forgetting this. Put it in the intro or text under the video. we need details, or comparisons to our own stuff is imposible.

[@heatnup]

Yeah buildzoid turned off e-cores and got the 13600k to 5.6ghz core 5.4ghz cache. Can only imagine what you can get with hyperthreading off as well maybe even 5.9ghz core. There are some cheap z690 boards out there too that can be combined with crazy fast ddr4 that’s pretty affordable compared to ddr5 low end memory.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897]

@@heatnup last checked he wad @56 on p-cores

[@heatnup]

@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897 you are right

[@heatnup]

@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897 a couple reviewers have gotten it to 5.7 though

[@tykedogtyke]

I just built a system around it. Using a 3080. LOVE IT!

[@NexuJin]

How much performance will you lose vs power consumption if you set affinity to run games on only the E-cores after under-volting?

[@FlyingCsongor]

Trying now to OC my 13600K in an Asus Prime Z690-P. But it won't allow me to change the multipliers in BIOS and all the options are greyed out in Intel XTU. Only when I use the "OC tuner" option in BIOS, it then increases the turbo boost freq to 5.2 or 5.3, but that's it. The CPU still runs at stock freq. What could be the problem? I have to switch something in BIOS to allow OC?

[@FlyingCsongor]

Update: Problem was that I had to update the ME drivers on the motherboard downloaded from Asus. After that OC was working. Now my 13600k runs at 5.2-4.1 GHz with -75 mV undervolt to get temps under control. This also keeps power draw under 150W. Now I'm content with my setup, won't do more OC, at least not without a proper watercooler.

[@NeverSettleForMediocrity]

@@FlyingCsongor 100mhz isn't anything to brag about tho

[@Dragon00109]

can we overcloclock 13600k with msi pro b660 m a wi-fi motherbord to 5.6 Ghz

[@PokèMyBalls]

Is there a reason to OC it? Mine stays at 5Ghz without any tinkering. Great temps.

[@Wolfiecolada]

i think i have a poor quality 13600k silicon. how exactly did you set yours at?

[@artorias550]

What were your final oc settings? Should we use offset in bios or just cpu lite load modes?

[@SurfSailKayak]

Thanks for the underclock info. I may have to do that to save on the power bill :)

[@acsgdo02]

Strange I have a r5 3600 + 6600xt I tried your Med Preset 1440p Benchmark on Cyberpunk and I got 123 fps vs your 105, how did I get higher fps than the 13600? only diff is I set Ryzen power options to high perf and set OC on radeon app

[@goa141no6]

Check your are of test, often benchmarkers looks for areas hard to run to validate results.

[@ultravisitors]

Please do the comparison to 7000 disabling E cores like you did with 12th gen.

[@lucagirardi5574]

Incredible video man! The gaming results, as I can see u are clearly seeing a GPU bottleneck, the performance increase when CPU is overclocked is above this, probably this the RTX 2080 u will can only see this ate 720p

[@Raintiger88]

This was the review that answered my questions. . .thanks!

[@vladimirdolapchev2226]

Basically, it means that 13600K is future proof. I can keep it and change a few generations of GPUs, like I did with my 2500K which serves me for 11 years now, and is doing great with much younger GTX 1060.

[@andrew6978]

Nothing tech related is future proof. Least of all CPUs.

[@vladimirdolapchev2226]

@@andrew6978 But it is. 2500K was future proof. 13600K will be fine for at least 7-8 years.

[@xycan8734]

@@vladimirdolapchev2226 can confirm. I just recently upgraded from a 2500k to the 13600k. Saw no reason to upgrade before now :)

[@fcaabmipainoon]

I'm upgrading from a 4790k to 13600k. 4790k is still a nice chip in normal tasks but if you game and stream it will be a bottleneck

[@projectxgaming]

Ive 4670 with 1050 ti. If i had 1070 or 1080 i could still play games at higher fps. I can still play any games 1080p low 30 fps with 1050 ti 8gb ram. If i had 16gb i wouldnt need upg my pc at all. But ddr4 cost is cheaper than ddr3 and buying new pc from scratch is the best way to go

[@Carlos-uv6tu]

I have a i-5 13600k cpu can that run a ddr5 (6000) ram speed?

[@anepicotter4595]

Good video. I came in thinking you were going to say it’s a bad overclocker and I was thinking that’s ridiculous. I’m currently running my 13600k @ 1.244V 5.6Ghz P-cores 4.5Ghz E-cores and I’d like to try going to a by-core OC but the new BIOS has me a little confused so right now it’s just all core boost

[@pelonix]

i have the exact same clocks lol, im just now starting per core

[@danielvipin7163]

How is the cinebench r23 ratings, power consumption and temps...

[@theberch]

I was able to keep all stock voltage / wattage, and raise p-cores to 5.5ghz, and e-cores to 4.3ghz

[@KannonballKiller]

3060 with a 13600k kinda killed the vid. Title doesn't make too much sense either, seems it's a great overclocker?

[@kieran9882]

I agree, of course that gpu is going to be a bottleneck and this title makes no sense

[@Megatrance9000]

@@kieran9882 how would this handle with ay a 3080ti?

[@kieran9882]

@@Megatrance9000 A great match I’m guessing

[@batzzzz]

@@kieran9882 jesus so this is just a beast

[@Chopper153]

@@Megatrance9000 Even with a 4090 you'll be GPU bottlenecked at 1440p. This CPU is a beast.

[@projectxgaming]

Never tried OC, but im interested in undervolting the cpu and gpu to see how low i can go and not lose much of a performance

[@waderobinson4122]

what a time to be alive.

[@nitinjaiman]

People who run servers would want to do that to save on electricity cost. Although they should rather use arm chips for this use case.

[@kevinyoliveira68]

Same, but like I'm interested in underclocking for better temperatures, 5.0GHz for VMs is uncessary for me

[@DeluxeTreme]

Not sure why when i play bf2042 my (cpu i5 13600k) temp go up to 85c highest, lowest 75c. Is that ok? Or do i need to undervolt it?

[@XxUaeBossxX]

I get the same temp in mini itx build

[@Seekah_]

@techteamGB tldr: video request please stock 12600k vs 13600k oc 12600k at 5.2ghz vs oc 13600k Are the gains worth it?

[@briangrant9942]

yes the 13 gen is way better than 12 gen

[@bbdedeoglu]

Such an amazing comparison. What are the temperature for Stock, Oc and 120W?

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897]

on mine mid tower cooler its like 65C under cr23 with 130w tdp

[@-Rizecek-]

I bought a 13600k and it can be clocked at quite high frequencies, but with 3080 even in 1080P there is no difference in fps, nor any extra difference in consumption and temperatures. I tried 5.1GHz - 1.18V vs 5.6Ghz 1.32V and the difference when playing was about 25-40W and about 8-10 degrees.

[@andrew6978]

Good to know, in the summer I need to keep those temps down!

[@gliver2549]

Ya save yourself the headache and wasted power consumption if your just gaming because game now a days are all using the GPU 100% at higher resolution. I'm using stock i513600k with 4090 and the GPU is always at 98-99%

[@ewch97]

What are the maximum safe temperatures for 13600K?

[@doc-holliday-]

If you're using XTU theres literally no reason not to test and find your best stable overclock and save it. You can literally run the overclock at will by simply launching xtu and clicking a button when ever you need it and leaving it stock at all other times.

[@Adi-tl7cw]

13600k runs at 5.1 all core out of the box Wow!

[@NeverSettleForMediocrity]

so does every ryzen 7

[@tonybailey89]

I was wanting to pair this CPU with an RTX 4080 for 3440x1440p gaming and wanted to see if I could get away with running a smaller 240mm AIO to keep this cool with a very mild overclock maybe 5.5Ghz on the P cores and 4Ghz on the E cores while under 70deg C total...seems very doable with this chip I think I'm sold! great info on the clock speeds and performance impact

[@dustinodunne3572]

A 280mm AIO would be better if you have the available room

[@tonybailey89]

@@dustinodunne3572 it was due to me considering the Aorus Waterforce 490 which has a 360mm rad, but after researching this whole 13th gen Intel line they all run stupid hot I I'm going to go with the MSI Suprim Liquid X hybrid AIO with a 240mm rad and make sure I go 360mm for more overclock ING headroom on the I5-13600k which can get very close to 13700k performance with 100 less watts and not nearly as much heat

[@ADRlAN1982]

i dont know why i have 22.7k in cinebench with stock settings, im missing something or i have to tune something in bios?

[@Piotr_Majchrzak]

what mb and ram ?

[@sp-xx8ty]

I get major studdering with my 12600k with windows 11 22h2 updated to 11-8-22. I had to disable the e-cores to stop it. Then overclocked it to 5.4

[@KiltedCritic]

Probably worth trying again with the Thermal Grizzly contact frame, to see if that would give more OC headroom from the lower temps.

[@Dlo_BestLife]

Or the cheaper SIMILAR ThermalRight bracket

[@010111010110]

Won't do any difference.

[@KiltedCritic]

@@010111010110 What were your findings when you tried?

[@fuchnorris6277]

Get what you can, it’s quite enjoyable just trying. We are enthusiasts we will always overclock worth it or not

[@ClassicalPan]

Interesting results. I have a 3080 and just ordered a 13600k, expecting to OC it. I game in 4K so I don't expect to notice a difference there, but I do occasional video editing and will likely see some improvement there. However, coming from an i7-3770, the 13600k at stock is already going to be mind-blowing with render times. So yeah, no need to overclock.

[@PokèMyBalls]

Mine stays at 5Ghz with minimal temps. No reason to overclock it.

[@ClassicalPan]

@@PokèMyBalls Coming from a 3rd-gen i7, the new i5 will already be a shocking improvement.

[@PokèMyBalls]

@ClassicalPan Yeah, you stated that in your initial comment. You'd be surprised how many people are just now upgrading from 2nd ans 3rd gen Intel. Idk why because Ryzen was amazing. Lol

[@ClassicalPan]

@@PokèMyBalls Although I've always built my PCs for gaming, I didn't use them for it very often because I was exclusively a console gamer. And most of the time, a good GPU is all you need, but I do occasionally encounter a game that is more CPU bound and I just decide not to play it if it won't run well. I fully crossed over to PC about 2 years ago. Haven't been able to afford a new build until recently. I should be good for the next decade now, as long as I periodically upgrade my GPU. Also, I never had any interest in AMD platforms, although I used to only buy AMD (ATI) video cards. I don't remember why I was so loyal to them, but maybe they were better back in the day.

[@ClassicalPan]

Update: I guess we all learn that overclocking is pointless. 5.5/4.2 and there's virtually no increase in performance. It just adds a few points to benchmark scores. I'll keep the OC since my CPU runs cool, but these are already tuned to perfection at the factory.

[@neilchen3949]

what cooling u using？

[@skoggiehoggins1445]

Dude 😎. Thank you so much for including MSFS. Cheers!

[@OriginalRaveParty]

Your review is the first I've seen, although I have to admit that Steve from Gamers Nexus is next in my video watch list 😁

[@triparadox.c]

My 3060 is the bottleneck on my i5 12600KF on 1080p high settings. Considering this is even faster than my CPU, you ought to use a better card unless you do the test as 720p low settings to ensure GPU isn't going to be the bottleneck.

[@UnseenThreat07]

Time to buy a 1440p 144hz 32 inch gaming monitor my friend 😉

[@EJ-en5xl]

@@UnseenThreat07 100%, I want to see 1440p comparisons with a 3090 TI. My guess is the OC difference is +10fps or so in most cases.

[@nerdinside8242]

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[@justinongstation8233]

Can I use b660 Mobo on i5 13600k I have no plans on overclocking?

[@tiago_carvalho777]

Yes bro im Gone do that

[@venk11]

I dont plan to OC do you guys think b660 mortar ddr5 is good motherboard for the 13600k?

[@briangrant9942]

no because that board doesn't support 13 gen only 12 gen

[@vlad54rus-a]

@@briangrant9942 It actually support 13th gen, there was a BIOS update.

[@briangrant9942]

@@vlad54rus-a oo nice :D

[@ordinarypeople801]

Why my brand new i5-13600K-stock, scored only 10700 Cinebench?? :/ (32GB DDR4 3200, ASUS TUF Z690) What am I doing wrong??

[@aerbnce]

Might be yours ram speed or overheating

[@AdamantMindset]

gonna wait for 13600 non k version reviews then

[@scottc2455]

13600 non K is Alder Lake not Raptor Lake.

[@pncx9872]

realistically how long can you maintain such overclock? i have 8600k which only could 4.9ghz for less than 2 years.

[@anepicotter4595]

I don’t know about his OC but I was able to get 5.5Ghz all core at only 1.190V which is an undervolt so it could last for basically forever

[@pncx9872]

@@anepicotter4595 i'm pretty sure lowering your voltage has the same effect as making it bigger. in some time you'll need a higher voltage to maintain that same 5.5

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

​@An Epic Otter damn. Assuming this was the 13600k and all the pcores not ecores? How do ya cool it and how hot does it run?

[@piididii]

Great video, thanks!

[@gosubreboot713]

what GPU did he use

[@lizardfreakboy]

I have a 7820x would it really be worth upgrading to a 13600k almost all game I get pretty high frame rates ?

[@EJ-en5xl]

You are wrong that the 3060 is a good test for this. Alot of folks are upgrading their old rigs or getting into pc gaming and will go for this 13600k due to the cost savings and overclock ability. I plan to pair this with the RTX 4080 and will play nicely together I feel.

[@ZealousPumpkinTV]

I agree, the i5-13600K can be paired with even an RTX 4090, me personally I have an RTX 3060 ROG strix, I upgraded from a GTX 1060 this april and it's amazing, I'm currently on an i7-9700 (non-K), the only reason I'm upgrading is because I stream and I play Fortnite which is known to be a CPU bound game also I believe this PC is underperforming because of the barebones motherboard and non-rated 650W PSU, upgrading it all soon, this new CPU will help me push much better FPS at 1080p. Great combo regardless and in the future if I want to I can always get an RTX 4070 or 5060 in 4-5 years if I deem it necessary

[@EJ-en5xl]

​@@ZealousPumpkinTV Upgrading my CPU from a 5600x to a 13600k with the same GPU increased FPS by a good 15 on most titles. Yes the CPU is a beast.

[@ZealousPumpkinTV]

@@EJ-en5xl Sheeeeeeeeesh, that's awesome! I can't wait to build with it! My i7-9700 (non-K) is slower than your 5600X so it should be awesome!

[@Stones309]

A simple question, i currently have a 3060 with my old i5 7600, can i pair the 3060 with 13600k without any noticeable bottleneck?

[@EJ-en5xl]

@@Stones309 you will be bottlenecked by the CPU. At 1440p resolution it maybe minnimal.

[@javiermartinez8809]

love the content got my hands on the arc a770 16gigs will be paring it with the 13600k should hold me for many years to come only play wow ,eso ,warhammer3 n small low budget games

[@DarthBlbl]

13600k + 3060... the bottleneck is not your cpu man

[@heatnup]

I really don’t understand the logic behind “if your buying a 4090 why are you buying an i5 instead of a i9” like throwing away money is ever a good idea.

[@scottc2455]

If you bought a 4090 you are already throwing away money.

[@heatnup]

@@scottc2455 not if you need it and it’s a better deal than the 4080. The fps per dollar and die size per dollar are both higher on the 4090.

[@heatnup]

@@scottc2455 also I don’t particularly agree with the idea of “future proofing” but the 4090 is one of the biggest generational improvements we have ever seen, to the point that it may account for the difference between a 4080 and 5080. So essentially someone who buys a 4090 might also have a 5080 early.

[@scottc2455]

The powerlimit slides/analysis at the end of the video are flawed. Setting 120 W limit will have no effect on most games as the power draw when gaming is way under 120 W. My 13600K pulls 25-65 W when gaming (144 fps cap) running at 5.4 GHz on pcores at 1.20 V. At those settings, the CPU will not pull more than 130 W at full load in CB23, so a power cap isn't needed anyway. At default my mobo was applying a massively excessive 1.36 V at load, when actually it's fine at 1.16 V at stock, and 1.20 V at 5.4 GHz on all pcores. Most boards will do the same. The best gains come from removing the mobo overvolts applied by default.

[@jc74435]

I dont think its fair to draw conclusions about the cpu performance in gaming, when you tested with a 3060. People buy cpus for >5 years, so if you upgrade the gpu later, the cpu is still the same. You should test with a better gpu

[@FinalStigma]

Well, from the results I saw from other testers, the conclusion is if you're using anything less than a 4090, then you're not gonna see much of a difference with CPU performances at higher res because those would depend more on the gpu. And since he's pretty much only testing at 1080p and 1440p low to high res, there's really no point in using a 4090 to see the differences in performance. Besides, he already said in the beginning that you probably already saw those kind of tests from the more popular testers, so he's just gonna do something different instead.

[@jc74435]

@@FinalStigma in 2 to 3 years nvidea releases a 5070 with the performance of a 4090, and you still have the same cpu. So I think there is value in knowing how it performs, even if you dont buy a 4090 now.

[@scottc2455]

@@jc74435 See the CS:GO slides...

[@HotGritz910]

Maybe I'm not understanding... It was my understanding that even with a 4090 @ 4k or 8k there wouldn't be much gain in fps using a i5, I7 or even i9...

[@fredredd410]

you are understanding

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

Yeah, it was a weird comment from the guy. Wouldn't say an i9 is ever worth it unless you actually really need it for work etc.

[@gliver2549]

that's what i'm using right now a 4090 with a stock i5, there's no rason to overclock the cpu as GPU is doing 100% of the work! Don't waste extra power , save money on electric bill! Unless your playing at 1080p , but who the fuck is doing that with a 4090??

[@smthsmth]

Video: when you don't know how PCs stuff works and try to OC.

[@rodd555]

i got 5.3gh/4.1gh with -0.035 offset undervault using peerless assassin cooler. great chip and tool.

[@krisdtnable]

Awesome review! I am currently looking to buy this cpu and this helps on the cpu overclocking part.

[@PinkasBrown44]

I neither agree nor disagree. I just think that claiming ´not to bother overclocking the 13600k´ equals saying ´save your money, get a B760 board and get a 13500 instead. But I guess people want to have the option (so do I), so it´s perfetly valid, regardless of it being better out of the box. Not being judgemental here. I myself am still deciding between 13600k and 13700K. I had just 2 PCs in the last 2 decades. Hence my preference for a long-term i7. But If I were planning on changing every 4 years or so I´d pick the i5. Maybe I will, cause I hate watercooling.

[@kaantek499]

cannot put unlimited the core voltage offset

[@Dave20VT]

buildzoid has his 13600k running @ 5,6 all core linpack stable

[@anthonybustos2204]

Is over clicking this cpu pointless if you play at 4K?

[@scottc2455]

Yes, unless you have a 4090 or better.

[@anthonybustos2204]

@@scottc2455 I do have a 4090 but I dont think my cpu is bottlenecking unless I just dont know what im looking for

[@eclipsegst9419]

This is imho one of the best OC chips in years. 6.0+ on 2 cores and the rest at 5.5+ is very achievable, and uses less power than a stock i9. I honestly never thought I would see a 1ghz OC again, but this little beast does it no problem.

[@minecraftmike5193]

6 stable on two cores is absolute bullshit.

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@minecraftmike5193 Nonsense. That's a mild OC to maintain an air cooler. Skatterbencher, as well as tons of people on Overclockers, have gotten 6.2 on 2 cores with the rest between 5.5 and 6 at hardly over 200w. You have to know what you are doing. You have to set things like avx offset and load line calibration, but for the silicon it's ez.

[@minecraftmike5193]

@@eclipsegst9419 I know what I’m doing and I’ve built several systems with the 13600k, both cooled with air and AIO. These things run HOT and are not capable of the frequency you posted without some serious voltage, which would then throttle the cpu. Post a video of you running a 10 min cinebench r23 with hardware monitor open beside it and put this debate to rest.

[@badlilstang]

@@minecraftmike5193 This guy hit 5.9 so how is 6.0 not a possibility. Also are you familiar with CPU Lite Load settings? At stock clock you can hit crazy temps but adjusting CPu lite load will not effect performance and can drop over 20C... it's all over on Reddit.

[@minecraftmike5193]

@@badlilstang show me one video of someone running cinebench r23 for 10 minutes on air at 6 ghz on 2 cores… I’ll wait.

[@JayzBeerz]

13600k is the best budget gaming cpu as of today.

[@NeverSettleForMediocrity]

no it's not x3d is

[@JayzBeerz]

@@NeverSettleForMediocrity Wrong!

[@Pillokun]

e cores off is an solution for optimal gaming settings.

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

Im pretty sure your OC was far from stable. For 5.7 Ghz should need at least 1.4v(of course silicon lottery needs to be taken into account) core voltage to be fully stable. 5.5-5.6 Ghz all core seems to be the sweet spot and run pretty stable even with just 1.3v(manual set) vcore. The E cores should be left alone, as ocing them adds 0 gaming performance. Ocing of the 13600K makes definitely sense(as it's even faster than the 12900k afterwards) and every K series buyer should use this free performance. Still a lot of people believe into the myths around "ocing is bad for you CPU", completely ignoring that such SKUs are made to be pushed to their architectural limits.

[@jimmydandy9364]

Can do 5.5 stable @ 1.20V, I guess it depends on the chip.

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

@@jimmydandy9364 "of course silicon lottery needs to be taken into account"

[@narcoleptic-insomniac4663]

Nah son, Gear Seekers first, Then you

[@sorad.2916]

Testing it with a 3060 is just wrong, majority owner of this card wont seek a upgrade for their one single component because it just works fine with a 10400 or something. Its the owner of a 3080 or even 3090 will do this kind of upgrade, because 10th gen cpu cant keep up with the gpu and its already the best choice in 2020.

[@teox85]

Cinebench is not a stress test, is a benchmark, your system is not stable, you need something like occt or prime95

[@gliver2549]

Ya its not worth overclocking to use more power to get a few more fps, as most game are GPU depenedent now when your playing at 4k, if you got a 4090 don't bother cause the GPU will do all the work, I have a i513600k and only use turbo boost, went low cost on all parts except the GPU 4090 and best budget allocation i ever done to get performance. Total build was like 2890.

[@hermine4955]

For gaming you can disable E-Cores and OC P-Cores to 5.6Ghz , I got 165w TDP avg

[@NeverSettleForMediocrity]

you can't do such thing

[@carlosgouveia]

I have my 13600K running P cores at 5.7GHZ and E Cores at 4.3GHZ with Noctua NH-D12L

[@jeremy6384]

I enjoyed this video, informative, and presented very clearly!

[@Flukiest]

Still no LTT video though lol

[@impuls60]

C'mon Microsoft! Release the new governor for these hybrid cpus so the games run well again!

[@dkimmortal]

What I want is 90-120w with 95% of the performance of an unlimited power version.

[@scottc2455]

That's easy. My 13600K at 1.20 V underload hits 5.4 GHz on all pcores and won't pull more than 130 W.

[@dkimmortal]

@@scottc2455 MSI board same CPU, how do you undervolt

[@AngelOfDeath420]

I'm going to OC it when I build this for my GF.

[@narwhal4304]

I don't care about overclocking, but unfortunately if you wanted both P and E cores, you had to buy nothing less than a 12600K. I have a B660 board with a 12400, but I don't see a 13400 being a meaningful upgrade since it won't have E cores like last gen. I could wait for a 13700 non-K, but that's still going to cost more than a 13600K. All that to say, I'll probably pair a 13600K with a B660 board because getting a new board doesn't make sense if I'm not going to overclock. And I think the AK400 will keep the 13600K cool enough at stock settings.

[@tilapiadave3234]

I think you may well be VERY wrong ,, rumours ( yes rumours) are suggesting the 13400 will have over 10% more performance than the 12400 ,, depending on price , it may well be the new BARGAIN king

[@narwhal4304]

@@tilapiadave3234 Fair and I've seen the rumors that the 13500 will have the same number of P and E cores as the 13600K, just clocked lower. But the 13600K is already out and I'm inpatient.

[@mizajuu]

hey man the 13400f has 4 E cores and 6 P cores so it does have E cores now but the i3 13100f doesnt have E cores like usual

[@marcusellby]

Don't downplay your contribution. We use all sources available

[@ChrisHarmon1]

It's insane that you still cannot run Legion on the new cores. This to me would be a show stopper.

[@PabzRoz]

I run Legion just fine on my 12700K never had an issue

[@smoothbraindetainer]

That's a ubehard problem. Stop giving your money to companies that use these dangerous anticheat malware I mean software

[@cold6236]

i run my 12600k on unlimited power everything never uses any more power than it should it just helps remove the bottlenecks

[@SirPeekALot_]

my 13600k is running like a champ on 5.7GHz. Great overclocking cpu.

[@spacefarer61]

Agree with most of the other commenters: this is a bad test methodology. It’s a red flag that the system is gpu bottlenecked if fps is exactly the same between configurations (undervolt, stock, OC). Therefore the gaming benchmarks here are totally irrelevant: the rtx 3060 isn’t good enough for this test. The productivity numbers tell the real story: 10-20% uplift with OC. Up to the viewer/reader if that is “worth bothering”.

[@DarkWidget]

Lol ofc you not gonna see gains if the gpu is bottlenecking even before the clock.. The title almost baited me Into not getting a Z motherboard 😂 Also I'm pretty sure most people plan on overclocking in the future with stronger gpus, atleast for gaming 😅

[@savageland8402]

Oc 13600k is 8% less then a 12900k its defently worth oc the 13600k all day

[@shahrukhwolfmann6824]

"Don’t Bother Overclocking an i5 13600K…" or any K part for that matter unless you're planning on using LN2 ;)

[@Oplix]

Would like to see undervolting testing not just lowering power limit.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897]

i've set all pl to max and just decreased voltages to its absolute stable limits, p-e-cache respectively 51-41-41 with SVID 1,113; sa 1,15; core 1,15 with offset -0,06, it draws like 130w under CR23 with almost no performance loss (high 23k to low 24k points)

[@tilapiadave3234]

You run into CPU "SILIOCON LOTTERY" doing that ,, so testing it doesn't really show what consumers will get

[@scottc2455]

@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897 Stock cache ratio is 45x, so running 41x is a substantial downclock.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic897]

@@scottc2455 oh my, lol I didn't know that, I thought it's like 4.0 or sth

[@chubbysumo2230]

The at 13900k comes in at about 300 W in stock form. If this thing is able to consume approximately 50% higher power than its rated wattage, I can only imagine that the 13900k is going to be a 450 w overclock. That is an absolute metric F ton of heat. May as well put an RTX 4090 cooler on it.

[@thelukygamer17]

It won’t go that high on power consumption simply because there are no coolers who can cool that efficiently, I’m pretty sure that even a custom loop can’t cool a 450watt cpu

[@tatewaki11]

More 1440p benchmarks next time please, thank you

[@JuanDiaz-jo1rw]

Actually, unless you have a 3080ti and above, you won't see much of a difference. No 4090 is needed. You should have checked other overclockers online before you said what you just said. Anything below a 3080, you are actually bottlenecking the i5 13600k. The i5 13600k is actually a competition to the i9 12900k

[@Belikeimpasta]

Glad i bought this bad boy instead of 13700K.

[@phillycheesetake]

I'd really like to see some undervolting. My PSU is a platinum unit rated for only 450w and that's a deliberate decision I made years ago. Although I may still be waiting for the 3D cache equipped ryzen 7000, because the performance/power contribution of 3D cache was pretty damn compelling on the 5800X3D vs the standard 5800.

[@goa141no6]

Theoretically you can run and undervolt 4090 (that boy is efficient at 300 watts) and a 65 watts 13600k at 4.8~4.6 E-cores disabled plus periferal, ram, Mobo you have like 20 watts spare for security or slightly overload your PSU.

[@smoothbraindetainer]

@@goa141no6 you're forgetting about VRM ineffeciency and literally every other component that uses power, like storage and RAM. And forget about load spikes.

[@tilapiadave3234]

Until the FACTS got revealed ,, the 4090 showed up the low level of performance on the 5800X3D ,,,

[@phillycheesetake]

@@tilapiadave3234 What?

[@jeffreypanzer4980]

very odd choice to use a 3060 to look at a cpu

[@markod7662]

Overclocking is a hobby for itself, has nothing to do with gaming and is fun for ever smaller number of people beacause it brings measly benefits.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Quit talking about other people. This is my first video on this chip, stop being afraid to stand alone

[@Hyperion1722]

If you have an RTX 2080, yes useless to OC the 13600K. Even at stock speeds, it cannot run from its potential speed because of GPU bottleneck.

[@iDTecKt]

Every time i come to see these tests i realize these reviewers are not true gamers, 1 CPU bound game? lol

[@lainiwaku]

well if not bother OC it, juste take a 13600 not K

[@FinalStigma]

Well, looking at the leaks provided by Gigabyte, the 13600 looks like it'll be quite different with its features compared to the unlocked version. For example, lower stock frequency and different die. So we're definitely looking at a reduced performance compared to an non-OC unlocked chip.

[@eggyolk8067]

1:28 *z790

[@TwilightSirius]

Oh wow, this is impressive. So basically, if you are a casual gamer, you could undervolt the CPU to save energy consumption without really affect the performance. This CPU is now in my wishlist.

[@hamzabouchoucha4303]

is undervolting something easy to do ?

[@BlizzGMX]

@@hamzabouchoucha4303 yes, very easy. Just look it up I am sure someone makes videos to help

[@4epa1012]

You are lowering the temps too. Done that on my i5 13600K and I don't go over 75C in Cinebench R23

[@oktc68]

You can undervolt the 13600k and increase the clocks, 5.5GHz should be attainable. Probably worth using a replacement socket thing on your mobo, the standard ones bend the contact point and can lead to higher temps.

[@oktc68]

​@@hamzabouchoucha43032 settings in your BIOS should get you 5.5GHz

[@Calx9]

A i5 13600k is being bottlenecked by a 3060. Use a 3080ti instead. Or even a regular 3080.

[@daysofgrace2934]

Take away from this is that this cpu need a beefier GPU than 3060 try a 6900xt

[@cuongtang9539]

i change nothing, while gaming i cant make any differences, they only ever thing i change is xmp profile i dont care for the rest.

[@varunpandey6297]

add timestamps,!,