Don't Bring a Real Punch to a Fake Fight | Indiana Jones | The Director Project

[@yuhyuh7603]

Actors: pretend to be tired and hurt Stunt actors: pretend they're not hurt or tired

[@williamchamberlain2263]

"Listen to the experts you've hired" is generally a good idea.

[@michaelberg9348]

"If my trusted lieutenant tells me my Legions of Terror are losing a battle, I will believe him. After all, he's my trusted lieutenant." -- evil overlord list

[@abbiejo6822]

@@michaelberg9348 best list ever!

[@nerfherder4284]

How rarely that happens 😂

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

Yeah, seems like this one's a bit hit and miss in the movie industry, to say the least?? 🙄😬

[@captainbritain7379]

It’s fun to come across a sincere reminder about Viggo’s toe again. It’s become such a meme now.

[@JillBearup]

RIP Viggo's toe.

[@spacefanproductions6254]

I always thought that him falling to the ground after breaking his toe was "fake" (part of the script, not a reaction to the pain he was in) and that breaking a toe by hitting an object that is not "staying on the ground", until I broke my toe on a cardboard box recently. But it's really interesting how he managed to stay in character. I would not have been able to do that.

[@wedgeantilles4712]

And Orlando Blooms broken ribs and so forth and so on.

[@nastrael]

And apparently John Rhys-Davies was essentially blind due to his allergy to the adhesive on his facial prosthetics so every fight he's in he is actually wailing on the stunt men with his axe.

[@marigoldl.m.3672]

@@wedgeantilles4712 Wait what?

[@Armakk]

As a Jackie Chan fanatic, I can attest to all of the above. Chan puts his outtakes in the credits, including real accidents, broken bones, and actor-on-actor contact. With few exceptions, the worst injuries are the least cinematic.

[@reganator5000]

and from watching a good amount of combat sports, real knockouts always evoke a bit of genuine concern that you wouldn't want to a matinee action henchman. When someone goes limp and falls down because their legs stopped working, it's not quite the same thing as them flying through the air in a film, and isn't suited for casual violence. Same with guns or swords- in films, they generally kill instantly, or a protagonist will go out in a slow, stoic death, whilst real people lie on the ground, writhe around and scream whilst all their blood falls out of what is probably quite a small hole, because wounds often damage the muscles or nerves that make your limbs work properly and most people don't enjoy being stabbed.

[@sunsetskye483]

@@reganator5000 Exactly. It’s a lot more horrifying

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

Its so strange to see that Jackie Chan’s most deadly stunt was in Armour of God, while jumping from tree to some ruins. It is part of a clear Indiana Joness riff and is quite standard mostly, the most exciting part is the mountain slide. But holy crap you see those behind the scenes and the guy nearly died. The guy who slid down a 10+ story building in Rotterdam, who slid down a pole with wired sparking lights and one who almost got flung off not just a double decker bus but a helicopter on top of a train.

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

@@reganator5000 and usually it works within films or they acknowledge the effects of swords in some minor ways like Indiana Jones does with superficial injuries. But then recently I saw someone wielding a sword in a Marvel movie and you can see how they completely ignore the physics and realities of sword to avoid ever showing a cut, it was very absurd. This guy was using a sabre against common mafia men and it is done as if he’s wielding a baton but in reality he’d be causing some serious bleeding and the way he cuts too is so dangerous. The Duelists is often praised for showing sabre’s (or whatever that sword is called) and its deadliness, like the fact that through the way the sword is made you poke a hole through someone you don’t just stab someone but you poke a piece of their clothing deep into their body which causes it to get infected and rot and eventually kill. Its a weird but fascinating fact of duelling

[@markfergerson2145]

Go back to earlier Hong Kong "chop-socki" films with real hits and real falls (generally but *not always* onto breakaway furniture and with breakaway props) that put stunt actor/fighters out of action for weeks or permanently, and it was considered just part of the job. Movies like this are where Jackie and many other current movie martial artists made their bones but take pains *not* to do it that way any more because they "graduated" out of Hong Kong into Hollywood. The YT channel Corridor Crew does reaction videos where working stunt actors talk about this and show clips of actor/fighters getting hit and hurt routinely in those older films. Hey Jill- any breakaway furniture/prop stuff to talk about?

[@lotuswraith]

Another example of why you should not actually hit someone during filming happened during the filming of Rocky IV. Stallone wanted to have a few real punches filmed between him and Lundgren, which the younger actor protested against. Eventually Stallone convinced Lundgren to do it for real and Lundgren put Stallone in the hospital with injuries that the doctor thought were caused by a car accident. Rumor has it that the offending punch is in the movie, but I haven't independently confirmed that. TLDR: real punches lead to real injuries requiring real hospitals.

[@LoganBluth]

Dolph Lundgren was a world class professional kickboxer before he became an actor and probably outweighed Stallone by about 40lbs. Why on EARTH did Sly think taking a punch from that guy was a good idea?!? 🤣

[@lotuswraith]

​@@LoganBluth He thought it would look good on camera. It did, but it also knocked the wind out of him.

[@DeanS946]

Same thing happened with Bruce Lee and Bob Wall in Enter the Dragon. Bob Wall was being a bit of a dick and told Bruce to actually sidekick him. Bruce almost collapsed his sternum!

[@Motorata661]

The same happened in Rocky 3 before Mr T was cast, Stallone got a professional boxer to play the bad guy and he was frustrated because the boxer wasn´t really hitting him so began taunting him to get serious. This would be stupid against any professional fighter but he did it with fucking Earnie Shavers, the guy that its widely considered to be the hardest puncher in heavyweight history. He got knocked out in one punch to the gut and decided to cast Mr T instead

[@LegendLeaguer]

@@Motorata661 is Shavers that guy who was said that it isn't even worth trying to block his punch because it doesn't do anything and feels like you got hit uncontested anyway?

[@abbiejo6822]

The director of LotR listened to experience when he started trying to direct Christopher Lee's reaction to Saruman getting stabbed in the back and Christopher Lee said something like "have you ever seen anyone get stabbed? Because I have." Due to his service in WWII, he knew how to act that scene realistically and it wasn't how the director had originally said.

[@pudgeboyardee32]

The rumors ive heard were that he said something more akin to,"when i stabbed nazis they did this." And peter jackson, in the extra features, claims the whole crew was terrified by how matter of fact the statement was. Another rumor i heard is that the only person better at killing nazis quietly was roald dahl. The childrens author responsible for charlie and the chocolate factory. And better still he and lee may have had something of a competition between them regarding who had the higher body count. A friendly competition. Between assassins. John wilkes booth eat your heart out

[@user-bi7xd8ry5p]

This is a bit of a myth. Christopher Lee worked at SOE during the war. Now this could mean that he was sent for covert ops in occupied territory but it could also mean that he sat in an office analyzing data. It's also worth noting that Lee never claimed to have stabbed someone.

[@saintroddy]

Wasn't Lee in the Long Range Desert Group?

[@CenterRow]

Might just be the most interesting movie themed channel on KZbin...

[@JillBearup]

Why thank you :)

[@tonywentworth9652]

@@JillBearup Don't let it go to your head Jill. By the way I second the motion.

[@heavymetalmusichead4969]

Check out Corridor Digital: they bring real stunt actors onto the show and have them break down different stunts in films.

[@MsMaddieTheOdd]

Lord of the Rings injuries always seem especially intense. Bless Vigo and his sad toe.

[@MsMaddieTheOdd]

@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm long live the king

[@SwordTune]

Meanwhile, with Donnie Yen: "Aight, I got 400 bucks for anyone willing to get KO'd for the shot."

[@MousePounder]

#CorridorCrew

[@jc-kj8yc]

Jup :D "don't actually punch someone" isn't a 100% rule. All Rocky movies feature an actual KO, as you said, Donnie Yen knocks people out on set, Tony Jaa and his crew basically hit each other with every second strike... But in these cases you always have people involved who know what they are doing and the hits are expected.

[@BlindErephon]

Bringing up Donnie Yen reminds me of how much I'd really like to see Jill break down some fights from kung fu movies new and old. Personally I'd do a little "Squeeeeee" noise if Five Venoms was one of them.

[@pidgeonpatrol861]

Or, if your Pantera, pay them 10 dollars per punch and then punch them 31 times.

[@michaelberg9348]

Uhm, yeah..... That's that's where the rules: 'you need to know the rules before you can break them' and 'know your target audience (and their expected skill level)' might come in. A seasoned martial-artist, stunt-performer stunt-director directing seasoned martial-artist stunt-performers (for a movie aimed at martial-arts fans). Might be able to operate on what for the rest of us would be unsafe territory. She definitely wasn't addressing him, for the rest of us (definitely including me), those who can still learn from youtube-videos on the issue, by someone who has this as a hobby, for single-digit years, perhaps leave the 'actual violence' to 'actual heads' to the professionals (or actual self-defense). Like the other video pointed out: merely the story of 'well they (not trained fighters) actually punched each-other for the shot' (so why can't you). Will get people hurt (on lower budget films).

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things." - Granny Weatherwax, _Wyrd Sisters by Terry Pratchett_

[@Inlelendri]

The "goeth thusly" was unexpected at this point but lovely and appreciated. Honestly, I do miss you delving into other topics but I also enjoy the stage fight analysis a great deal, for both its own sake and its wider applicability, which is still...it's helping me a surprising amount in writing, too, so thank you. :)

[@JillBearup]

I’m glad it’s helping! (I’m also really interested as to *how* it’s helping. With just fight scenes, or with other stuff too?)

[@Inlelendri]

@@JillBearupAw, thank you. I've done a clockwork zombie mystery/apocalypse story and doing a sabotage investigation with fae for NaNoWriMo, so there hasn't been a lot of fight scenes in that but yes, that, too. Where to keep your focus, both going into fight scenes and during it (and outside, but as I'm no fighter, it's been particular helpful then). That what happens isn't necessarily as important as how it appears and feels to the audience. That the action doesn't have to take precedence over the character moments, which has been a worry for me for a long while (that the quiet moments are boring), but the character moments in fact is the cake itself with the action as the frosting. Among others. :) Sorry for the amount of text and the metaphors.

[@warriormaiden9829]

@@JillBearup I don't know if you've ever seen Cyrano de Bergerac (1950). I looked for a video from you on it, but was unsuccessful. If you haven't, I think you'd enjoy the snark if nothing else. Would you be willing to do a breakdown of this duel? I don't believe I've seen one that combined poetry and fencing in quite the same manner. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHfMfXypgs6Yn7M

[@ModernMouse]

I'd equate this to MMA and Pro Wrestling. Wrestling is much more thrilling of a fight. It's acrobatics and gymnastics while MMA usually ends up with two people bearhugging each other for 3 minutes. The follow-through is important as it showcases the purpose of character. Great analysis and glad I could be turned on to Laura's channel! Just subscribed!

[@wanderlustwarrior]

Actually man would it be cool to see a breakdown of a character based wrestling match. Like Michaels vs Undertaker, last weekend's Jey Uso vs Roman Reigns, or any Sasha/Bayley match.

[@MegaToronto1]

The wrestling is more rehearsed though. Sometimes the follow through doesn't work. I recently saw a mixed match where the guy made it look like he gave the woman a hard punch to the belly, but she reacted like he punched her in the mouth. lol

[@SithCats]

@@MegaToronto1 the extent to which pro wrestling matches are rehearsed really depends on the individual wrestlers. Some (like Macho Man Randy Savage) liked to coordinate the whole match move by move. More common though is to plan just the big spots ahead of time and then do most of the match on the fly. A lot of the time when one wrestler has the other in a hold for a few seconds, they're actually whispering to each other the next few sequences.

[@SithCats]

One thing I think would be SUPER cool somewhere down the line would be if Jill could do a video contrasting movie fights with wrestling matches, preferably with the aid of someone who has participated in both. There are enough wrestlers who have either made the jump to acting or at least acted as heavies in B-movie action scenes that it shouldn't be too hard to find someone. It doesn't even have to be somebody as well known as Dwayne Johnson or Dave Bautista.

[@Yvaelle]

Another good example of real violence making it into a movie, in Django Unchained, Leonardo DiCaprio smashes his hand on a table for effect. He misses his mark, and crushes a wine glass under his hand, then finishes the scene with his bloody hand: never breaking character, and adapting to use the bloody hand on the fly for effect (which only added to the character).

[@natasha8007]

Which is a great lesson for new directors to learn not to yell cut when magic happens.

[@Cat-tastrophee]

He severed a tendon in his hand and had to go to the hospital right after, so...while I'm glad the take worked, it was not an ideal situation. Never use real glass as a prop!!

[@tbotalpha8133]

From what I heard, he kept going for a bit of the shot, not breaking character. Then Tarantino called cut and got the medics in. HOWEVER, Tarantino decided he liked the bloody hand element, and so once DiCaprio was ready to return to set, he worked it into the scene. After the initial shot cuts away, DiCaprio is acting with fake blood on his hand, to maintain continuity with the injured shot.

[@davidmartin5145]

A stage combat video that is also a Stuff-You-Like-style movie analysis? Yes please.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

"Don't Bring a Real Punch to a Fake Fight" Except in Fight Club.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

You're not supposed to talk about that -_-

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@jonathancampbell5231 No one talked about it to Brad Pitt.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv You're not supposed to talk about Fight Club. First rule. Second rule.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@jonathancampbell5231 Only if I am a MEMBER of Fight Club.

[@JosephDavies]

@@jonathancampbell5231 Quite a lot of good that rule did, eh? Everyone knows the first rule of Fight Club, regardless of their membership. It's the worst kept secret, and that's the entire point of the rule! Or is it? Maybe it's all a reverse-psychology marketing ploy...

[@TheHylden]

The one thing about the actual punch she throws in the film, it's perfect for the tone in that her leaving her fist out there feels more comedic. Unintentionally, perhaps, but it's a nice outcome.

[@thecmcaplan585]

Two minutes in and now all I can think about is "But where did Laura Crone get those swords from?"

[@DazzReviews]

This was really interesting!

[@Useless_Rift]

Or you can say DazzInteresting, Sorry, not sorry

[@isobellabrett]

I once saw a person faint on stage, it look so fake - until the curtain went down.

[@ladyscarlette6289]

... they actually fainted? Did you find out if they were okay?

[@DuffTerrall]

I for years thought that Westley getting whonked and knocked out by Rugen in Princess Bride looked unconvincing. Turns out it's probably the only time I've seen someone actually get knocked out by a blow to the head. Reality really doesn't look real sometimes.

[@MandalorV7]

Speaking of Lord of the Rings, they were waking people with blunt weapons all the time in those films.

[@ianfowler9505]

There's some cracking 'stay in character' action in Dog Soldiers when they're gluing the sgt's guts back together and the punch to knock him out actually connects hardcore.

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

I remember reading that in Kenneth Brannagh's Henry V, Brian Blessed actually slapped the actor playing Lord Scroop, one of the traitors. The slap wasn't in the script, he got caught up in the moment and thought 'ooh, this will be good' and went for it. Conversely, in The Hollow Crown adaptation of Henry IV, Jeremy Irons simply used the wrong hand to slap Tom Hiddlestone, and clocked Tom, who was expecting the blow to come from the other side, with his ring covered right hand by mistake. You see Hiddlestone's left cheek start to redden very quickly, and he looks as surprised as he does pained for a brief moment before moving on with the scene.

[@JosephDavies]

A tangent on your aside: the mine cart ride almost _was_ a Disneyland ride, as part of the Indiana Jones expansion to Adventureland in the 1990s. It would have included the jeep ride we got, the existing Jungle Cruise cutting through the interior, a mine cart rollercoaster, and possibly a walking maze of some sort as well. Sadly, we only got the one ride, but it's still a great one. :)

[@robchuk4136]

That mine cart could have used Marion. Now she could throw a punch

[@EyebrowCinema]

Really cool breakdown of a stunt a lot of us probably didn't think twice about. Great stuff.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

And suddenly all the fights on Buffy take on a whole new meaning.

[@LoganBluth]

I'm constantly confused by people saying that movie fights are bad because they're unrealistic and that they should be truer to real life. I'm a lifelong MMA enthusiast and was actually lucky enough to make a full time living from fighting for a few years in my 20s by competing in small, local promotions. Most real fights are not REMOTELY cinematic, it's a lot of slowly circling around each other, throwing feints and missed punches, punches being blocked by the other guys hands or forearms, clinching for minutes on end, takedowns into guard and then zero activity for minutes, or, at most, one or two short hammer fists, spending 3 minutes advancing to half guard only for the other guy to put you right back into full guard, and then finally getting frustrated enough to back out into a stand up and start the process all over again. The big, flashy knockouts are by FAAAR the exception rather than the rule. Oh, and there is ZERO spinny shit or back flips. Haha Why on earth would you want movie fights to be as dull as reality when you can have massively telegraphed UBER-haymakers, 720 spinning scissor takedowns, and gravity-defying back flip kicks?!?! 😝

[@qwertyTRiG]

Nice to see little hints of Stuff You Like still here. Lovely analysis, and I plan to watch the rest of the playlist in the morning.

[@Geekritique]

I've never realized that was a legitimate punch! Excellent. Also, it's incredible that you found a way to break down that moment into a 10 minute video. That takes expertise.

[@thomasblazek4104]

But, from the context of the video I think it wasn't? The legitimate punch looked bad, and they had a far better take, so I assume they used the good "fake" take for the movie?

[@SavageGreywolf]

the hit that made it into the movie did not connect. When Spielberg looked at the dailies he saw that Kate had collapsed her swing the second she realized she was actually connecting. Which is why the stunt coordinator said they needed another shot.

[@coldstuff9784]

This video wasn't clear about that at all. I was thinking they were going to talk about a failed punch caught on film. But it turns out to be something we literally never see.

[@ellana5963]

I wanted to thank you, because I began stage combat this septembre thanks to you. I was looking for a sport because, you know, health, all of that. But I really don't like competition, and most of the time, sport outside of school is competitive. And that's where you come in. I discovered your work this summer, and I really like it, and so I decided to look more into stage combat, because you make it sound really cool. And it happens to be kind of the perfect sport for me ! I have the badass of martial sport without actually hurting myself or others. No competition, I've got parteners, not opponents. And I've got to add stories and creativity and fun costumes on the top of it. And I loooove it ! Right know, I've only had 3 lessons before my country went back into confinement, but it was absolutly awesome, and I needed to thank you for it. I'm looking forward to the end of the confinement so I can practice more ! So here : thank you soooo much for your work, and for this discovery.

[@JillBearup]

Heart: warmed. ❤️

[@Anderson_101]

To my knowledge Harrison Ford is an expert in hitting people for real during filming. Ask Sean Young and Ryan Gosling about it. By the way, great video, very insightful.

[@hughbarton5743]

Your stuff is so much fun....have only done "combat" in live(small time !) theatre, and I found that when choreographing fights with completely inexperienced actors, the two things that worked were multiple repetitions at 1/4 speed, with me counting time loudly, and explaining (repeatedly!) that the recipient of the punch/kick/sword thrust/ whatever has to sell the action. That being said, on several occasions, in front of live audiences, I had to actually defend myself from some cat who got the bit in his teeth, while attempting not do him permanent harm...

[@the_part_time_geek]

Several years ago, I was acting in and working stunts and fight choreography for an indie zombie series. We were doing a scene where two of the main characters capture and start to interrogate a member of a militaristic postapocalyptic cannibal gang (yeah.. it was that kind of project). I had geared up and put on a balaclava, and played the part of the failed killer (had to hide my face, as I was also playing the main villain). As we got to the part where the lead actor begins the "interrogation" (read; just beating the baddie up before asking questions), I looked at our available cameras, angles, the type of shot... and I made the decision to have the actor go ahead and punch me in the face... with some caveats. We would be going about half speed, low power and I gave the actor a quick lesson in how to make a loose or spongy fist. As we would be shooting half speed, it was my job to oversell the impact and make the shots look good (we would add motion blur and speed manipulations in post to give everything a surreal effect later on). The whole effect worked, though after taking a few dozen punches to the face, it's not something I recommend unless you know what you're doing. Again, I have to point out, I made the decision to plan the shot that way because of the closeness of the camera angles and the lighting. We had spent about a half an hour beforehand trying to plan the shot with no impact while still retaining the story tension, but nothing felt quite proper for the intimacy of the moment except to be right there in the midst of the damage. Aside from some very mild numbness and tenderness to my cheeks and jaws, we did the shot with no injuries.

[@TearyEyesAnderson]

I'd like to see a video about "The Fifth Element" dance fighting, and the other fighting styles in the film. I like how it gave both the male and female leads a chance to show their brawling chops against different opponents.

[@jonasvancaesbroeck1991]

This is probably my favourite movie, together with Raiders and Crusade. Thank you so much for the video!

[@BombshellCelluloid]

Stunt Choreography 101. Great explanation. So many people (cough novice actors with no fight choreography experience cough) that a real fight on camera is WAYYYY too furious and fast and doesn't work as dramatic narrative. The stunt coordinator has to walk the fine line between 'believability' and 'clarity' and, most importantly, 'safety.'

[@slashandbones13]

As a professional wrestling fan, I find this very interesting.

[@Goblin4Coin]

This is weird, I found Laura's videos earlier today and now she's here as well? 😱 The universe is telling me to watch all her stuff

[@PreservedMoment]

This reminds of a fun fact (that might not be true) I learned about The Dark Knight. When the Joker shoves a pencil through someone's head, Heath Ledger did slam the dudes head on a table. It took a bunch of takes and camera shenanigans and shots where there was a pencil and shots where there wasn't, but the actor playing the mob boss actually got knocked out at least once if I remember correctly

[@slightlyembittered]

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, listen to your paid experts.

[@criticalmaz1609]

Fascinating! Made me think back to all of the sort-of fake fighting I did while learning Kung Fu. We were supposed to go slow enough to give our partners time to parry, and we were allowed to make soft contact in some situations, so I guess it was like stage combat but all improv. 😁

[@MrMorphine482]

!!! LAURA!! YAY! Two awesome people talking about an amazing topic!

[@CultPopture]

I love this video and I love this channel! Thanks for contributing Jill!

[@NoisqueVoaProduction]

Best description of Indiana Jones movie ever. Damn, I used to love that movie when I was a kid... How could I be so... Much like a kid

[@rsacchi100]

Fun and informative, great perfomance by you and your guest commentator. Harrison Ford accidentally hit Barbara Bach in "Force 10 From Navarone". He mentioned this on a talk show. Ironically, in the scene Barbara Bach's character was demanding Harrison Ford's character had to hit her harder.

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

This is a fun topic to cover! I have to ask, though: have you covered any fight scene where everyone involved has fight choreography/stunt double background? Like Tony Jaa's, John Wick, any of the numerous 90s Hong Kong action movies (ft. Jackie Chan and the like)

[@MegaToronto1]

Since you're using "Indiana Jones" as an example, I'm surprised you didn't mention that Harrison Ford accidently connected a real punch to the face of Ryan Gosling during a fight scene in "Blade Runner 2049". Ryan said a punch in the face by one of your heroes is still a punch in the face. lol

[@gershsgaming8673]

There was a scene in The Dark Knight where I believe Heath Ledger asked Christian Bale to actually punch him and I think that scene is in the final cut? I wonder what makes that different.

[@SithCats]

Assuming this really happened (I don't have any idea one way or the other), they both would have gone into it knowing Bale was actually going to hit Ledger. So Bale would not have that instinctual pullback right as he makes contact, and Ledger would be able to keep character after being hit and try to react appropriately. Also, neither of them were trained fighters as far as I know, so Bale probably wouldn't hit hard enough to knock him out or cause serious injury.

[@LeoStaley]

You're one of my favorite things on the KZbins

[@TheCenobyte]

The legend Vic Armstrong. Also Pat Roach

[@Acceleronics]

Totally unrelated to the content, but I hadn't spotted the Obiwan Nightclub Easter egg before (@ 2:07). No doubt it has been mentioned in Easter egg videos, but I haven't seen them. KZbin recently began recommending this channel, and I really enjoy it.

[@richardfarrer5616]

I think you should look at the 1990s BBC TV series "Neverwhere". There's one scene where the actor playing Varney trips and breaks his leg . The shot is kept in the final release. Now there's dedication.

[@salyx]

More Jill & Laura team-ups please!

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Very side note from a pilot about the "arriving in India via a crashed plane." The plane in question is a Ford Trimotor. This is supposed to be in the 1930's. There's a shot of the instrument panel, which includes a Mode C transponder and a nav/com radio. ATC radar hadn't been invented yet, much less secondary altitude reporting radar, and the VOR/ILS system wouldn't be invented for another 20 years. An amusing anachronism.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

Since nobody has mentioned it I figure I’ll bring up one scene in Stanley Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket where real life drill instructor R Lee Ermey absolutely smacks the hell out of the face of Vincent D'Onofrio making his hat fly off. Ermey said in an interview later that D’Onofrio would never forget his left from his right.

[@CVSubRailfan90]

I'm 30, watched this movie multiple times and just now noticed "Obiwan Nightclub".

[@LeoStaley]

You should do a collab with the guys at cooridor crew and their stuntment react series.

[@greenredblue]

A little surprised you guys didn't mention one BIG reason to avoid punching people if it's not your area of significant expertise and you properly prepared for the strike: - find a picture of a skeleton - look at how big and thick the jaw is - look at all the tiny, thin bones in the hand Smashing them together will bruise one and could easily _shatter_ the other. Boxing gloves aren't there to protect your opponent's modelling career...

[@greigsmith568]

Ah... Vic Armstrong... legend.. brilliant second unit Dir... not so much as Feature Director... LEFT BEHIND... Ouch..!! Just watched Raiders with my little girl (7).... she loved it.. Temple of Doom is next! Marion great role model tough as nails, Willie Scott (Not so much). Great video, really enjoyed.

[@KristopherBel]

With everything going on in my timeline (because nov. 3rd) I missed this when it first popped, so happy I caught it today.

[@lifegeek5742]

Dooblydoo! I knew it! These videos are soo well done with just the right balance of technicality, humor, and humanity! DFTBA!

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

I don't know who you are; I love this for Indi, no matter what.

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

I love it when stunt performers end up married and combine their badass! Like Sophia Crawford and Jeff Pruitt!

[@AlexisBabayan]

Fancy meeting you here!

[@stellabelikiewicz1523]

@@AlexisBabayan AWESOME! Hello friend!! How fantastic are Jill’s videos?

[@blitzgirl6522]

Holy crap, Laura has the exact same set of Narnia books that's sitting in my own apartment!

[@Shutterbug5269]

I was in 2 plays with the Auburn Players Community Theatet. The first was as Aide Waren in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" I was required to punch the actor playing McMurphy in the stomach. In the first rehearsal of this scene my punch went shall we say... lower than intended. So I can empathize with Ms Capshaw there.

[@artmanxp]

That seems to be a theme we're stunks fail but makes the film better, like the gun shot scene

[@doornik1142]

Donnie Yen will sometimes pay stunt guys an extra several hundred bucks to take a real punch or kick so the shot looks extra good.

[@Etern1tyOne]

“mine car chase begging to be turned into a Disney ride” - this literally happened at Disneyland Paris 😆

[@calvinball1]

I practice rapier as a martial art/sport. Yeah, generally you have to be trained with a weapon/martial art to actually follow the action of a fight. And, it helps to have the right (non cinematic) angle of view of events. Even a trained eye might need several looks in slow motion to tease out the combatant's strategy. After all, if an attack is visually obvious it isn't as likely to land.

[@benjaminbrewer2569]

Why am I laughing so hard at “sorry again Max”

[@SorchaSublime]

my favourite example of a film having real punches is the dark knight interrogation scene. Heath legit just told bale to actually punch him, and you can see bale hesitate each time to make sure he didnt go too far without breaking character

[@wanderlustwarrior]

Another comment mentioned professional wrestling, and now I'm thinking more about bringing real punches to staged fights. If you're interested and familiar, I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of the emotion, story, or humor driven matches in wrestling. Some from the last 2 years: Elimination Chamber 2019: The Road to Kofimania Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan, Wrestlemania 35: Kofimania Roman Reigns vs. Jey Uso, Hell in a Cell 2020 (last weekend): "head of the table" Sasha Banks vs. Bayley, Hell in a Cell 2020: "best friends, bitter enemies"

[@yarrowandlace1]

I love stage combat, though I’m not good at it and don’t get to do it often. We did a play with my school that had a fight where I accidentally kicked my partner in the shin (sorry again) and my other partner and I, given no choreography, decided to just run into each other. Turns out that her shoulder is very solid and during rehearsals hit me hard enough to send me flying onto the floor

[@U2QuoZepplin]

"Whack a mole ?" Nice reference lady!

[@leptonsoup337]

I´ve binge watched your whole damn channel. How do you not have more subs? I´m confused.

[@bookworm4126]

I instantly thought of poor Travis Willingham getting punched in the face during the shooting of Second Hand Lions, poor guy.

[@mynos]

*carefully picks at this nit... “Unceremoniously arrives in India”? Unceremoniously! Imelda Marcos’ fever dreams, in which she wears the chandeliers from the Orpheum Theater as earrings, pale in comparison to the pageantry of the first 15 minutes of Temple of Doom.

[@olgalevaniouk2636]

Please please PLEASE look at some of the fights in Netflix’s Castlevania, they do some amazong stuff with whips!

[@SithCats]

Seconding this! Although considering what Jill said about not being able to watch too much of The Witcher, I think she'll also find Castlevania more gory than she enjoys.

[@kittykat5056]

Goeth thusly! 🤩

[@cheekychappy1234]

Interesting that in 1984 on a big budget movie they weren't using video playback and had to rely on the stunt co-ordinator when Kubrick was using it at least 5 years earlier on the Shining.

[@Cerulebell]

Things that try to looks like things often look more like things than things...granny weatherwax is always right

[@SithCats]

Kinda like how the movie sound effect of gunshots sounds "more like a gunshot" than actual gunshots to most people.

[@Cerulebell]

@@SithCats or the old coconuts and hooves thing

[@Set2Wumbo]

Hollywood: Ok, we'll just angle the camera this way to make it look like the hit connected Hong Kong: CUT! HIT HIM HARDER!

[@andrewrogerson429]

I've been wondering for a while now, since you've trained to not actually fight and not actually hit is it now harder to fight for real? I would hope you never have to defend yourself for real, but I (a person who can neither fake fight or real fight) feel like you'd miss on accident fairly often.

[@casparvoncampenhausen5249]

I'd assume that it neither helps you, nor is a deficit

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

@@casparvoncampenhausen5249 It's probably mostly a wash. The major advantage is that stunt performers are probably at least aware of how their skillest transfers - or more importantly, how it doesn't - into an actual fight, compared to the straight up igorant or the "I had a black belt in karate from the strip mall dojo when I was 12" crowd, and are thus aware that the best option when faced with an assailant is to run.

[@jc-kj8yc]

I have done both in my life and it really is a completely different skillset. The movements are different, the rhythm is different, etc. If you learn/practice both simultaneously one doesn't really influence the other in a bad way, but if you can only do fighting or fake fighting and try to learn the other, that's gonna be rough, because you have to go against lots of your instincts. Just as an example, in fake fighting you need your partner to see your punch coming, so they can react and you also want the audience/camera to catch the move. So you exaggerate the movement and make it big. Meanwhile in actual fighting you don't want your opponent to see the strike coming so they can't react. So you make the movement as fast and "small" as possible. Two completely different goals and executions of the same movement.

[@jmcasler1512]

Congrats on 100k!

[@Kimmaline]

Fellow denizen of stage and screen, here! A number of years ago which likely sees the average KZbinr still in diapers or yet to be conceived, I was cast in a bit part for an indie short film that many of the crew from ILM was doing as an after-hours project for Sundance. (I have a number of friends who work for LucasArts, having grown up 10min away and them having been _the_ place in the 90s to start in tech because of their legendary training albeit shit salary--I heard about the audition from an inside source...I also actually got to go to the employee screening of Episode One and almost dumped my freaking lunch on George Himself when someone tripped me 🙄) The Sunday we were set to shoot at one of the ILM studios, the delivery truck with our film canisters did not show. This meant we were running our rehearsals to tape, but we only had one shot to film for each scene Yes. I am dating myself. To all you whippersnappers, the reason it's called "Film Studies" you see, is because once upon a time we actually recorded to this stuff called F-I-L-M. I know. FREAKING WILD, HUH?!?!?! So, in my scene the dude playing my date was supposed to try to surreptitiously feel me up, and I slap him. I started intensive stage combat training at 16, back when AFABs just so rarely ever did this, so I know how to stage deck people. But I was at EYE-ELL-FREAKING-EMM. And one take. Omg. Looking back, I'm certain being overconfident in my ability was a massive part of the problem. Out of the probably 50+ppl on set that day, iirc I was the only one with any combat experience (well, except for maybe the blowup date...it was a weird movie). When it came time for me to slap him, he had told me not to hold back. And my nerves made certain I didn't. I cracked him across the face so hard we had to call a break so that the redness in his face could die down. Two decades later and I'm still mortified. (I am now spinal cord disabled and live vicariously through you until we beat these variants) Here is a neat little factoid - the kid playing Short Round had some attention issues, so any shot where you cannot see his face, it is actually my friend Aaron in Temple of Doom.

[@DParkerNunya]

Honestly one of the best examples of an accidental injury that neither of the actors break character in happens in the Punisher. Kevin Nash accidentally got stabbed during "the Russian" fight, and thanks to WWE training, didn't break character. They ended up using the take too.

[@jesse-got-dolphins-into-heaven]

"accidentally"

[@DeclanMBrennan]

So real isn't realistic - got it.

[@akumuryuu]

I know this is not patreon, but I suggest looking into Dragonheart fights. It had some really pleasant sword duels. And just generally a movie I wish people would analyze more.

[@Wajeeba]

After almost a decade in theatre my friends and I have racked up a little laundry list of injuries; I got a fat lip during a final rehearsal because I mistimed the sell, that same show I also rolled my ankle during the final performance, my partner got a swollen knee after hers collided with mine, I’ve gotten eggs on my head from colliding with the stage, busted my knuckles open punching a prop during an angry scene, my partner dislocated her knee during a choir performance, she also bruised her fingers a few times pistol whipping me, the list goes on! Theatre is a blood sport O_O The crazy thing is, we take safety very seriously 😂

[@docstockandbarrel]

Interesting info

[@mena94x3]

I was hoping we would get to see a side-by-side or some thing of the real hit versus the final take.

[@SteveSmith-wk9dx]

Is that a Danelli rapier by Laura's side?

[@nathanl6401]

It's rumored that in the movie Ip Man(2008), Donnie Yen would pay people to let him hit them

[@DarkExcalibur42]

That's an awesome title

[@jonb4155]

I had to watch this video twice. The first time through I was too distracted by the fact that Laura appears to own two identical copies of CS Lewis' The Last Battle.

[@kaycedelgado2800]

I am an illusion

[@ethanhatcher5533]

Cool to me that Laura is repping the 614

[@171QA]

Great video.

[@acoulthardclark]

0.40, it's outside Club Obi-Wan