Don't buy the Wrong MacBook like me... - M4 MacBook Pro

[@ShortCircuit]

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[@typerightseesight]

"dont buy the macbook like me."

[@MrHejnis]

there is an TDP app called Mx Power Gadget works with apple silicon, just FYI

[@ZarkTheShark44]

Thank you for the fair and honest review of the MacBook M4 Pro. I trust you guys a lot on tech and no you're not huge Apple fans, which I get, there's two different camps and you guys seem to be more into graphics, gaming, and desktop builds plus some of the wildest accessories of ever seen. So I greatly appreciate you not only be fair, but not slapping Apple too bad anyway ha ha 👍 I really want to buy one, and can't decide between a pro or a max, but you helped me realize a pro is plenty for what my needs are, thank you again for clarifying details that even Apple never mentioned, another reason I love Linus tech tips and it's affiliating channels.

[@ZarkTheShark44]

@@typerightseesight sure, Buy a Windows PC that you have to keep plugged in or it's a powerless brick with no performance and terrible battery life.

[@typerightseesight]

@@ZarkTheShark44 You do know you just have to pay more for something that can game well enough without having to power it on in performance mode right? haha

[@darryljack6612]

If only there was a channel with a guy who loves to address Macs

[@TMM6900]

+1

[@DozIT]

If it were a Mac address video we wouldn’t get it till next summer!

[@oussamadaferio]

If only the host of that channel didn't leave.....

[@MoorhuhnNils]

@@oussamadaferio*if only he wasnt layed off

[@ThatRandomDude914]

Uuuh. Wrong. He didn’t get laid off. Linus said that on the WAN show

[@wilder6408]

Summary of clickbait title: he bought the version with glare display instead of anti-glare. Thank me later.

[@bren.r]

You mean the better display? Sorry but matte is garbage.

[@Yantonio7]

wao, soo interesting

[@meppers]

i'll thank you now

[@TimVels]

is that the nano display coating thing?

[@PAPO1990]

@@bren.r it's anti-glare, but it's NOT Matte, it's pretty cool actually

[@rafajrichard]

7:15 it's because Apple is doing brightness mapping so the HDR looks better based on the room brightness. It boosts shadows in dark content so you can see it if you are in a very bright room. If you switch to any of those calibrated modes it disables this functionality completely. Hence the great results.

[@remiranda]

And who are you? Apple’s lawyer? Jk

[@MysteryMii]

Yeah. This isn’t really too far off from something like Dolby Vision IQ or HDR10+ Adaptive where the ambient light sensor is used to adjust the image based off of the lighting conditions in the room.

[@kaela420]

@@remiranda 🤣🤣🤣

[@tartarughina_1]

The M4 PRO made me pull the trigger. I've upgraded from a base 15" 2018 MBP, happy to have waited this long to enjoy a huge leap in performance

[@wagesof58]

You should have just bought a car.

[@notcapnbloodbeard]

@@wagesof58 good laptop is better than a car

[@ErnieZee]

@@wagesof58 it's $2000. You're telling me you're driving a car that's $2000? Bruh.

[@Weaselszone]

@@ErnieZeeI know someone that got a Ford Focus for £100

[@chris-jh4cx]

@@Weaselszone Was the engine included?

[@SterlingRalph]

The nano-texture display “shimmers” whites like a mild version of those old matte screen protectors. I went to see the difference in screens twice, couldn’t get over the rainbow, shimmery whites/edges. To each their own.

[@andreaslassak2111]

Same here

[@tronam]

I've noticed that with every version of Apple's NT displays... until this one. It must be a different process than in the past because this is noticeably superior and the first time I've ever considered getting it.

[@Aygross]

Pretty shocking he's still on a Intel model tbh

[@Bai-Hui]

Is it

[@pruina3395]

Why bother upgrading? If you’re not using it for a strenuous workload (which most Macbook users aren’t), then upgrading your hardware is kinda pointless. That’s like the functional equivalent of upgrading a Chromebook.

[@iota-co7369]

@@pruina3395battery life and heat. Also kinda janky for a review channel

[@5600hp]

I’m actually considering buying the Intel MacBook now you can get really nice specs for $300-500 …

[@rohitgusainvlogs]

I am also rocking 2020 intel 13 inch MacBook Pro with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB Storage. 😊

[@SunCrushr]

The nanotexture is really good at reducing glare, but IMO it also creates a slight blur or haze that reduces perceived resolution. I don't think it's worth the trade-off, but each to their own. I also don't like it on the ipad and don't like using paperlike screen protectors for the same reason.

[@GuuiYae]

no it doesn't create blur or haze. I tried look at it very hard at apple store and it's totally not the same as applying matte screen protector.

[@RiderZer0]

It looks like it diffuses color too. The color looks flatter. Not a fan tbh

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

From what I have read/heard so far, there is truth to this but it is favorable for editing photos and video because the glossy screen in inherently contrasty and over-saturated. My hope is that the nano screen gives a more realistic render of color and contrast for RAW edits.

[@GuuiYae]

@ i finally ordered and got it for a week. I couldn't get used to the Nanotexture display, so I returned it and got the normal display and Happy again.

[@gadgetpalekid]

Technically, the new M4 is the Old M3 Coupe

[@crazycomments8038]

That means you have the M3 and trying to make yourself happy while the M4 is still faster!

[@RuggeD_]

@@crazycomments8038 if speed is all you're after then you don't care about what makes an M3/M4 a proper BMW sports car and why they're special!

[@hocek11]

I remember that Chris Harris called M2 the real M3 when it was released.

[@gadgetpalekid]

@@crazycomments8038 well, you are partially correct. I am very happy with my e46 … and have been happy with it for over 20 years.

[@MrFruitPrimate]

Underrated comment

[@thegraynoah]

As a new owner of a beefed up 16" M4 Pro, mostly for final cut and working with RAW photos, though I've not properly utilised all of it, man I couldn't be happier. Honestly Jake, just go get one, I have my doubts that the M5 chips will be as much of an improvement again as these have been(though M5s have always been great lol), and let's be real, you ain't using nearly half of it anyway. But yep, get the nanoscreen, I can now happily work on my laptop while sitting outside in direct sunlight, it's a godsend for us pale nerds

[@aida7784]

Hi! How much RAM did you get?

[@JethroRose]

m4 max in 14" chassis here. it rips. want it to be silent while working hard? set low power mode to down clock it a bit. it still rips.

[@thegraynoah]

@@aida7784 Went for the full 48GB, makes sense as I'm working with lots of large files or working with 10 apps and 40 chrome tabs open simultameously - probably overkill for most, though. Depends what you need it to do

[@TitanCoeus]

Why didn't choose regular display and use anti-reflecting screen protector instead? Does it decrease the quality practically you think?

[@thegraynoah]

@TitanCoeus My thought was that apple will have done a way better job with making the screen matte while keeping brightness and colours as true as possible as opposed to buying a cheap offbrand one - and to be honest, the upgrade only cost me 50 quid so, why not? In retrospect though, I might've stuck with the glossy screen having seen a friends' 14" m4 in the same conditions outside beside mine - it's not that much better for the rareish occasion i actually use it in bright sunlight to sacrifice that beautiful screen's full colours and vibrancy indoors

[@Ikram232]

2:43 Pretty sure it's not because you're based in Canada, it's because the nano-texture option means that the MacBook is built-to-order. They don't store any Nano-texture MacBooks so they come straight from China. I waited 1 week for mine when it said it would take 2 weeks.

[@zacksstuff]

I ordered my custom config (unbinned M4 Pro and nanotexture) on November 23 and it's out for delivery today (December 2), so sounds about right.

[@tronam]

Apple stores regularly carry several NT models, but not at all spec levels, so it'll depend on the desired configuration.

[@yuriserigne5524]

if only macbooks would have replaceable parts... then they could make mainboards with soldered cpus (like all laptop manufacturers unfortunately) and configure any amount of ram/ssd and screen (and also the customer could do it later if they used standard parts and no glue)

[@rayok_zed]

​@@yuriserigne5524as much as I love this, there are benefits to having the RAM on package when it comes to efficiency and speed.

[@yuriserigne5524]

@@rayok_zed that's what camm2 is for: lpddr speed and power efficiency while being user replaceable

[@DozIT]

Huh I thought new enterprise gear from Ubiquiti was Jake’s favourite day

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

First time seeing this channel - brought here by the topic. Clear why it's a popular channel - top quality production combined with natural and entertaining presentation. The "hey, I'm an influencer" voice is as prevalent today as the "hey, I'm a TV anchorman" voice was 20 years ago. Nice to get a break from that here. Although, unfortunately the "to be a tech influencer you must be in Canada" law is still in effect. I'm an old dude who has been a PC guy forever (and I was a technical guy), and just ordered my first MacBook Pro M4 16" WITH the nano display. ETA is about two weeks or so. Using that time to pre-learn some Mac stuff.

[@danthemanmillan]

Jumped from a 2016 i7 MBP to an M4 Pro. WOW the difference is absolutely insane!

[@Bassbarbie]

I'm about to do the same from a 2014 i7 model. I'm having a memory dilemma though :)

[@MysterCannabis]

Go for more if you keep your machines for that long

[@rafaelclp]

@@Bassbarbie Don't make the mistake of buying 16GB. Buy at least 24GB. 16GB is not good enough for actual work nowadays. I work for a startup, and we all in the tech team (devs and designers) have 16GB models. I'd been complaining about it for over 2 years. If I open the activity monitor > memory when working, I can see the memory pressure is high so I know it's lack of memory. And I'm not doing anything too heavy, just programming (browser and IDE most of the time). The HR team kept ordering 16GB models for these past 3 years; until recently, when I was visiting the office (I'm remote), the head of design in my company was complaining about how slow the CPU in these Macbooks are - he couldn't open figma, notion and google meets at the same time because it became unusable. Then I jumped in and showed him it was a memory issue, not a cpu issue. High memory pressure (his showed a red graph - mine is yellow, so his was much worse), swaps all around. The head of HR was sitting next to him. She told me her Macbook also becomes really laggy when she joins a meeting. We tested it, and again, memory pressure (hers was only 8GB though, which should be enough for basic browsing and meetings but isn't). So now they FINALLY ordered 24GB models, which should be here soon. You might not care much about the reduced performance. Most devs in my company don't even notice it. But I'm not sure I'd use that as a metric. They use 4K monitors at 30Hz (with a company provided hub that only supports up to 4K@30Hz) and don't notice ANY lag at all in the cursor movement. They swear there is absolutely none, it's completely smooth.

[@rafaelclp]

@@Bassbarbie Buy at least 24GB. I'm trying to show why 16GB isn't enough anymore, but yt keeps deleting my comment. So I'll have to go with just "trust me bro".

[@michael_c2]

​@@rafaelclpThe problem is Apple products lose their value proposition once you start to upgrade. And of course they suck at gaming and there's no touch screen so despite the amazing efficiency and performance... The value proposition drops if you care at all about base ram and storage..

[@techtt6213]

FINALLY! A laptop speaker test with the volume at a normal level. Apple DSP's quite aggressively, so when you are at lower volume they'll let the bass go a bit deeper, and at high volume they reduce it all to keep distortion away. So at lower volume you more dynamic range, and it goes deeper.

[@jayg339]

I’ve always really liked that about Apple’s audio. I have a pair of HomePods and they do the same thing, so I still get a great audio experience when I listen to them at a pretty low volume at night.

[@davidkorcak]

Recall the loudness switch on old amplifiers and receivers. Very similar

[@samiraperi467]

Back in my day that effect was called "loudness".

[@uzayonat]

They've also patented every single dsp trick they use so that no one else can use it

[@techtt6213]

@@samiraperi467 Yes but this does work a bit differently, loudness is a rougher tool which is not that different from upping the treble and bass knobs. This affects the frequency curve as a whole. Not to mention it is matched to the specific speakers of the machine. Therefore more like DSP. But I do agree the concept is not that different.

[@pi_ist_toll]

8:40 The (IMO) best thing that changed is that they FINALLY support window "tiling" (like win10 does it: when you drag a window to the top, they suggest you to maximize it, when you drag it to the left, they suggest you to resize the window so that it takes 50% of the screen etc.)… Still a much bigger friend of tiling compositors on Linux…

[@coffinwood-blackheim]

Windows 11 has even better tiling, unnecessarily keeping it exclusive to W11. The "messy desktop" approach and terrible window and task handling of MacOS so contradicts the productivity / creativity mantras Apple's regurgitating every year.

[@pi_ist_toll]

@@coffinwood-blackheim I know win11 doing it better… There are some "tiling window managers" (amethyst) on macOS, but I think real tiling only works great on Linux as of now… Writing this message from Hyprland…

[@TetraSky]

4:43 I'm sure all 3 games available on MacOS will look great.

[@arkabhowmik7832]

Haha absolutely! I used to play CS GO regularly before shifting to the M1 Pro in 2022. We still have no major multiplayer games like Valorant, CS 2 I feel Apple should target popular multiplayer games instead of bringing AAA titles 4 years after they release on Windows

[@JudgingKitty]

@@arkabhowmik7832 I agree- some students who would want to buy a Macbook but want to play a competitive game here and there, buy Windows laptops instead. Atleast some E-Sport titles like League Of Legends are playable on Mac OS.

[@dominic.j]

What are those three games?

[@Pro720HyperMaster720]

You can run a good bunch of Windows games on macOS with things like CrossOver

[@CozyCatte]

@@arkabhowmik7832 It's not up to Apple to port games to MacOS

[@nathanlee105]

0:45 My mom is also still rocking this config as well. Other than the battery draining itself every day in 30 min at 6am for no reason, it still works just fine. I just got the base 14 inch M4 Pro with 2tb of storage and 48bg of ram almost a month ago. I finaly retired my mid 2014 15 inch macbook pro

[@thunermay7171]

7:57 I find Deskview is a niche feature but I really like. Im a student and do calculations often on a piece of paper and when learning with others this is so much easier to share them and write to them at the same time. Till now you had to use your iphone with handoff which was kinda crappy, with this its easier.

[@krazydime0]

we haven’t retired a single intel based macbook that is supported yet…including mac pro’s. there’s still so much value in them…..especially since for security, we haven’t been able to use the hacks to get windows 11 on them. now that they finally released a windows 11 iso, that we can use with vmware, we still like that we can triple boot on intel mac’s

[@krazydime0]

1.5 TB of memory is sweet

[@gamechannel1271]

You mean storage

[@krazydime0]

@@gamechannel1271 no my Mac Pro has 1.5tb of ram.

[@Norman68623]

I ordered my upgrade from a Mid 2015 15" MBP yesterday. Mainly because two keys do not work any more. I went for a 14" MBP M1 Pro 10 Core with 1 TB SSD & 16 GB RAM. Which still has a higher memory bandwith than the M4 base model... 1300 bucks refurbed. I do not do video editing a lot, if any. So i will be covered now very well for quite some years. Without falling prey to Apple's insidious upgrade pricing policy. Waiting on something for 6 instead of 8 minutes means plain nothing to me. I would not stand by and watch that process. For heavy duty video editors, i absolutely see it can make sense to switch though.

[@BSGSV]

I have a 100% chance of NOT buying the wrong MacBook.

[@smashed_penguin]

Can't buy the wrong Mac if you don't buy a Mac.

[@natieklopper]

To be fair they have other people buying on their behalf, if you do it yourself you probably pay better attention

[@Mr.Anders0n_]

​@@smashed_penguin Any MacBook is the wrong MacBook 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Stay_away_from_my_swamp_water]

Asahi?

[@DanteRU0312]

I love that random article celebrating the fact that Apple got rid of "wasteful" stickers, even though the real "waste" with Apple is the fact that their devices are not made to be repaired. Meanwhile every book shop and children's shop will have more stickers than Apple ever had.

[@sealpupcoulter3417]

yeah, as an avid right to repair man this is a huge dealbreaker for me, the framework is just so much better in that regard although T440 isn't bad either

[@jubuttib]

0:16 Is that Jake's M3? Kinda interesting that he'd be against the M4, since it's the only way to get a 2-door version in that class since the E92.

[@johnngo4653]

Thought he drives a V10 M5

[@JTech22]

5:57 Noticed this right away when I got mine, makes everything feel so much smoother.

[@overdose0074]

Am I the only one who prefers the glossy screen? I remember old laptops all had the low glare screens and when glossy came out it was like night and day. Why does contrast matter so much on TV’s but not laptops?

[@itsmilan4069]

nope actually the matte display enthusiasts are the minority

[@tronam]

This one is special. Now that I've seen it in person it's probably the best anti-glare process on the market, at least in my experience. No shimmering, fuzziness, or milky blacks. It's beautiful, sharp, and contrasty. It's more valuable on laptops because of the wide variety of environments they're used in and angle of the display. With more statically positioned screens like TVs and desktop monitors it's usually a lot easier to control the lighting.

[@tronam]

@@itsmilan4069 Matte displays are the global standard. Glossy is the minority by a wide margin. How many glossy PC monitors have you seen? They probably represent 1% of the market, it not less. They've been mostly popularized by Apple.

[@A_Wispy_Cloud]

I wonder how the nano texture will hold up to smudging and fingerprints.

[@username7763]

Its not a touchscreen.

[@A_Wispy_Cloud]

@@username7763yeah but you still touch it to open it and dust will build up on it and you have to wipe it probably with a certain type of microfibre cloth or solution.So it will still get touched a bit

[@lakers1654]

@@A_Wispy_Cloud they provide a cloth for you to clean the screen

[@Nigey01]

The iPad Pro has a nano texture display option and there's been 0% complaints about them so far, so can't see that it'll become a problem

[@RATsnak3]

Didn't we used to have a channel for this kind of content

[@gooddypm]

Yeah, it’s called Short Circuit.

[@RATsnak3]

@ shut up smart 455

[@JSway212]

Everything was just under Linus tech tips, they separated the content to different channels so now reviews happen here

[@bilawalm1]

Burrnnn

[@anthonybenjamin4311]

No

[@wveerallday20]

Apple give the Air a 90hz+ screen and my life is yours

[@gocygo01]

For the desk view that was actually introduced with the continuity camera when they allowed iPhones to be used as temporary web cams for the Mac’s.

[@jorisvb]

Remember the days when all screens where matt?

[@nsglcck]

Yeah, that period sucked. Glossy all day!

[@shuhei9571]

Where is Matt?

[@MuhammadFirdaus-wo6mz]

​@@shuhei9571 Why is Matt?

[@gabrielmazza7923]

@@shuhei9571 busy at the apple store

[@DanKaschel]

Who is Matt?

[@SarahKchannel]

I just went from the last non M-chip MacBook to the M4, its easy a 10x speed bump on the same rendered 3D scene !

[@fracturedmind8124]

I bought the base model M4 MBP. M4/16/512 and it’s so good. It’s my first Mac since our iMac G3 family computer. I don’t need any of the extra bells and whistles and I honestly could have bought the Air and been perfectly happy. The M4 is a beast and I haven’t been able to make it stumble yet.

[@eduardaberries]

Do I have a MacBook? No. Do I want to buy a MacBook? No. But I still watched it. 😂

[@DANNYonPC]

Do wish Jake would pull out his own Intel laptop and benchmark'd it against the M4

[@ModernTenshi04]

I upgraded to the new 14" MBP with this exact chip, but with 48GB of RAM and 1TB of storage. Absolutely loving everything about it so far, especially since I'm coming from a late 2013 model 13" MBP. Here's hoping this one can last just as long.

[@gamebuster800]

I upgraded from i9 2019 to M4 and it's a huge upgrade. I got the anti-glare display on the day of the release in Europe. I also got the 14" for the first time and it's great and super light. Got an M4 Max 48GB

[@Arcticstar0]

I don’t often have to worry about off axis viewing. The glossy screen works just fine for me. I like the image clarity.

[@aurelian1]

I have the glossy display MacBook Pro M4 and no regrets. It's brighter for SDR as it is, so you're less likely to fight glare than you were before.

[@u1f98a]

just the fixed display ALONE (see 5:08) is making me want to upgrade from my already still decent M1M 14" to a M4

[@gregorteply9034]

You're a good consumer 👍🏻

[@kaidiemulan6061]

1:16 every time anyone from LMG goes "but first" i get ready to skip the ad but this time there wasnt

[@michael_c2]

Spnsorblock is the best extension because it will automatically skip stuff like that so you don't have to think about it. It'll even skip banter and stuff if you program it to. Or outros/ nonrelevant commentary. Self-promotion merchandise et

[@Furrfino]

0:15 ohhhh I get it, his grandfather served in WW2 and was issued a blowback-operated M3 submachine gun, but he would be happy with the new M4 platform if he has to

[@TheAnonLee]

Dang if only y’all had a channel dedicated to mac, oh wait….

[@peter65zzfdfh]

The irony is this video has already in a few hours outperformed most videos there that have been up for months. It’s a shame MacAddress wasn’t viewed much. People say they want something but not enough people do.

[@itsmilan4069]

dang it only this was a deep dive video instead of unboxing and overview video which ShortCircuit usual uploads, oh wait...

[@btiaent]

why even get the nano coating? If you work outside/in a coffee shop you will anyway put a privacy screen on top

[@rramnel]

Thanks for testing the display extensively. Other than the Cyan flash, is there also a noticeable improvement in the response times (Ghosting issue) compared to the older M3 Pro Display?

[@Nonamer98]

Desk View I think is a highly underrated feature. Setting up overhead views is challenging for amateurs, so having it be available will make it a lot easier for that type of content development.

[@TheHookUp]

Holy 121.7 Average Delta Error! That's the highest I've ever seen, and then for it to go all the way down to 2.57 is absolutely NUTS!

[@MrVlodato]

The nano texture thing is kind of pointless. Just get a high quality matte screen protector. Then you can also replace it whenever you want or go back to glossy whenever you want.

[@justadutchman5169]

Guy: Dude, I have this surprise I want to show her?😬 Apple engineers: Already thought of that. We call this feature D!€k view.. I mean Desk view.. 😅

[@mckungsmakong]

Thank you for sharing information I didn't know before from others' videos.

[@pitrochied]

Jake using a mac as a daily is the last thing i expected before gta 6

[@Allexz]

How so? There's no competing windows laptops?

[@Syldar]

I tried nano texture on a studio display, I bought the regular one. It makes the fonts blurry and messy. You actually loose the clarity. I’m not the only one complaining about it. You can look it up.

[@Dr.Unsteady]

My m1pro 14 still works amazing and haven’t found a need to upgrade yet. I’ve got a powerful desktop for intensive tasks that honestly could probably work just fine on the MacBook if certain programs would adapt and make an arm version. ARM I truly believe is the future for laptops with their superior performance to battery life. But unfortunately that’s not happening yet

[@jacobwonder6735]

Y'all can hate Apple computers... But at this point, they're the same price as windows office laptops... And the macbooks have the best Trackpad (every windows one SUCKS) Speakers Screens (MiniLED is like OLED, but can be left on 18 hours a day) Keyboard Battery life. If you bring up "but can it game".. that's like asking a Honda Civic if it can outrace a porsche... It's not made to game.

[@jaybee-f9x]

Honda civics are way cheaper than Porsches though? Metaphor makes no sense

[@vigour6786]

Totally agree

[@itsmilan4069]

trackpad were apple equivalent ever since surface studio laptop (ik stupid name) gen 1 yes will agree with the speakers can't deny that AMD and Intel's latest gen processor already beaten the M4 in endurance windows laptops literally have options like mechanical and opti mechanical switches for years Mac's keyboard had to revert to older style because of unreliable scissor style key that would break easily battery (you ran stuff to brag about so repeated the point from display) easily replaceable by a teenager without blowing out any keyboard IC (god prais Lois from pointing out the stupid design) oh well atleast Mac's aren't cheap and value for money like those trash windows laptops like who wants to save money like a filthy peasant right😂

[@mattmmilli8287]

Also a ton of AAA games support it now. I was surprised when looked the other day

[@vigour6786]

@@mattmmilli8287 I wouldn’t say a ton of games are supported natively on MacOS but it’s definitely better than it used to be and with GPTK released we should see even more game’s with native ports to mac.

[@DavidLukner-fx1im]

disabling promotion will decrease battery life because the display will not ramp down to 24 hz. not sure why you have tested that way.

[@Amybnuy]

honestly the playback shouldn't have been on low power mode, the whole point of a battery test is to know how long you can actually really use it for.

[@XashA12Musk]

0:39 the guy is happy 😂

[@RaymondwLin]

I may be in the minority but I would not get the Matt texture screen. You went “you can’t even work on the one on the right” but you were looking at it at like 30 degree off axis and low down, who works like that? No one. The reflection wouldn't be as bad in normal, straight in front position. And also…more importantly, at least for me, a glossy screen is more colour accurate. A Matt screen will always and forever washed out. It’s the nature of the texture finish. But if I have a reflection problem? I just move. It is a laptop after all. Another small thing, I never found a glossy screen on a phone/iPad, all the way back from Gameboy to Switch to be a problem and found myself “god damn, I can’t read my messages or see my games”. No reason that’s going to change now.

[@jorismak]

Sat in a bright office space? Everyone hates their glossy mac screens. Even the LG monitors with a matte coating reflect lights and reflections from windows in certain spots, so I can't really view the top-left part of the monitor. Glossy screens are a horror in day to day use. 'Matte screen' is one of the first options I pick whenever I start filtering on monitors, TVs, laptops, etc...

[@techtt6213]

Exactly, and as someone who works outside a lot on my M1 MBPro 14 using brightintosh, that 1000 nits combats most glare anyway unless you are at an angle

[@grdprojekt]

Have you been in something like an office space? Where the light sources are pretty much everywhere, including behind you, so at the right place & the right angle, the screen will reflect those lights? Sure you can tilt the screen up or down.. but as you said, who would see their screen off-axis?

[@nitrobear]

@@jorismak I use my work MacBook Pro (the 13 inch M1 one lol) and it looks just fine.

[@techtt6213]

@@jorismak Yes because they all have their MacBooks blasting a 1000 nits. Doubtful.

[@JohnWi11is]

I'm waitin for Santa to get me an M4 Max Macbook Pro + a new Camera & maybe some Grand Master lenses... I have expensive hobbies 😆

[@TK199999]

Every time they say something is wrong with Mac's, all I can see is Andy do that Invasion of Body Snatchers pointing and creature scream.

[@mlies37]

This has me thinking that if Mac Address ever comes back, Jake should be a major part of it

[@megatryn]

I have been rockin' a matte screen protector on my MBP's since 2015. My current M2 MBP is SO much better with a anti-glare screen protector. I do the same on my iPhone and iPad. Looks better, feels better.

[@andrewrosson8443]

Video playback with chrome and Netflix lasted 20 hours for me before giving me the low battery warning. So 22 hour battery life seems right to me.

[@mineokos]

Hey Jake! I’m also using a 2019 16 inch MBP. I use it with windows for games also doing a little bit of video editing and programing on macOS and it’s still feels perfectly fine for me. Honestly I think it’s the best uni laptop because some classes needs windows 10 software and others you can just go with macOS. I think it would be a good video idea to revisit these older intel MacBooks because you can get quite good specs now for really good money. I also did the VRM heat pad mod and gaming is quite good on it now that it doesn’t thermal throttle that easily. Still needs Throttlestop though for a consistent performance 😅

[@Karvaton_koiranvaatekauppa]

The style and approach in this review was so much more pleasing than some of the other videos where overly excited bloke gets their knickers wet by running this and that benchtestblahblah. Also many complained about the fingerprints and recommended to avoid the space black. Which is exactly why I went with the space black. I've always felt that matte finish on an elitebook or whatever crap I'm forced to use for work looks cheap. Now that apple put a price on it and called it nanotexture, folks are going crazy. Oh well.

[@jose152171]

It’s a texture added to the glass not a coating

[@larstillberg412]

16" M4: A remarkable machine, but a significant challenge for non-touch typists. The key gaps are now black, even on the silver model-a true nightmare for those who rely on visual aiming when typing.

[@rns10]

The speakers on mac are so underrated. The base m3 air will clean slate most windows laptop speaker.

[@akshat8586]

Brainwashed.

[@Ollie-ps6qe]

Jake’s got an e92 m3? Didn’t know he was chill like that 0:19

[@HwL01]

Those TDP to Performance ratio are scary good.

[@smilebot484]

you really should be at least comparing the specs of the m3 14 base. no mention of an extra port for example. nano texture should really be a niche upgrade. i would warn against adding it strongly for most users

[@unalive_me]

That top down would be incredibly useful if it wasn't as distorted

[@martin-4193]

Why do you cheap out on the new model? It's the smaller CPU, the Nano Texture is missing and with the small SSD, you don't get the transfer speeds, that you get with the 2TB model. Pointless

[@ecklere5690]

Waiting for the M4 MacBook Air in spring. Gonna be a huge leap from my current 2012 retina 15“

[@himynameisryan]

One thing of note is using third party software people have been using 1000nit sdr brightness on any of the m series 14 or 16 MacBook pros

[@nmzmihai]

I've got it at launch. Very pleased with it. I edit 4k in davinci resolve studio with the base m4 pro 14" docked and using 2 external monitors, wild machine.

[@greywolf502]

They got the wrong one to stop people from stealing it didn't they.

[@Dabbaranks]

i was confused at first because he kept saying M4 macbook pro instead of M4 Pro Macbook Pro. "wait, How'd he get 16 gpu cores in a regular M4?"

[@Subliminal_Panda]

Have they fixed the durability issues on that nano texture finish?

[@shm6273]

Rare review mentioning the quantum dot easter egg!

[@auroraflash]

Feels like the appropriate channel would be MacAddress

[@itsmilan4069]

nah that in-depth channel this is an unboxing channel

[@notconnorslays1]

Can we get comparisons between these and the new Qualcomm-powered laptops?

[@kompassorpigo7600]

You say you got the M4 at first and then during the comparison you say it's the M4 *Pro.* So which one is it? Because that benchmark difference isn't huge if it was between the M3 Pro and M4 Pro.

[@m.hreels9822]

Just to save everybody’s time! They didn’t get the one with the nano texture display! 2:13 💻

[@benhoppe24]

I returned my glossy and got the nano texture one. I love it so much, I even swapped my iPad to nano texture.

[@avenged110]

Matte displays are hideous. I'd rather have reflections than that hazy mess. Also, don't ruin the design just because time has passed! Aside from the notch, it's essentially a perfect computer. I wish they had offered this 'layout' between chip versions for M3 series; I would've been able to get a so-called 'pro' chip instead of a max version, then.

[@squachmode1360]

looking forward to the m4 pro with gpu upgrade and bigger ssd I ordered WITH nano screen... This should be a good upgrade from my late 2016 4port 13"mbp with 8gb ram lol. I will say that despite the butterfly keyboard reliability issues in the wild, mine hasn't missed a beat and has been powered on 24/7 to be used for all sorts of tasks. This year the battery finally says it needs service.. still runs whisper quiet as well.

[@unbanmekoil]

Can any display achieve perfect accuracy with SDR and HDR content shown simultaneously? Doubt it. That’s likely why the default mode measures as ‘inaccurate.’

[@Stetch42]

Still have my M1 Max. with 32Gb Ram. And its still a beast.

[@FitzoPlays]

Really have top tier time for Jake. He knows his stuff.

[@DavidLukner-fx1im]

why go through the trouble of testing the display color accuracy when your methodology is flawed. the black level of the display is dynamic and HDR video is tonemapped automatically when in high ambient light. hardware unboxed noted this back in their 2021 review and showed good color accuracy in the default XDR preset. the reference modes are still more accurate, but you have not explained the full story.

[@dcmodderful]

Jake wouldn't have survived the days of dial up downloads. 6 minutes? Try 6 hours for 1 song.

[@becontentandsilencethemind1562]

I remember 56k modem was the shiiiiiinizzzzle

[@bertrandolf9733]

still on MBP 2012 matte/HiRes bc they did not have the matte screen option in all those years in between untill now.. It's running strong with the second battery and third keyboard :D

[@MrMeme171]

What I wanna know is how much better the glossy one is in the dark. Not that I’m upgrading, M1 MacBook Air for life

[@ilmeridionaleitalian]

Wondered why the dbrand promo wasn’t dunking on Linus and then remembered it’s usually only when he’s hosting

[@JasonBrown1]

If you go to the dbrand website, it is

[@MStoica]

2:25 Yes, you can use it :) But not from 2 meters away, looking from the side, I agree 😂 Also because you couldn't even reach the keyboard :) If you're in front of it, unless you have a lot of dust on your display, it's completely useable. Of course, you wouldn't chose to stay in a position which captures the most amount of direct light, come on :). I've never been in an environment where I couldn't turn/rotate at all. Yeah... it would be nice to not have any glare in environments with concentrated light sources, IF the brightness, contrast and colors would look the same (especially in regular environments, where you don't have bright light sources, like we work most of the time). However, that's not the case. And in 99% of the cases, where we are working inside, and don't have our desks with the displays oriented to reflect the window (because we're not morons), you give up more than you win. Glad I could see that before ordering, so I didn't get the nano texture option.

[@xVILOx]

gratz guys I just got the 16" m4pro as my 1st ever apple product actually decent machine vs windows

[@1MRSomeguy]

just upgraded from a 2015 mb air and the speakers are "a" tier now. better than airpods gen 1 imo

[@mymusic5772]

I have the highest spec 14 inch M4 cpu.MacBook Pro.I have the new type screen and it is a lot better at reducing glare.My only regret is the amount of ram and also not buying the 16 inch..In photo editing I keep running out of memory and the operating system keeps asking me to force shut down some applications.It can run quite hot.

[@jcarman]

I'll take that glaring display over something matte all day long, and twice on Sunday.

[@acasualviewer5861]

Desk view is good if you want to make a video for a class where you work out a math problem on paper by hand.