DON’T BUY THIS FORD RANGER IF YOU TOW! WILDTRAK VS RAPTOR TOWING BATTLE

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for watching! I realise it's not a completely fair test as this is old gen vs new-gen as well as the engine difference HOWEVER the new gen ranger does also come in the 2L bi-turbo variant which is the same as the old gen so I would imagine tows the same (except for the great towing aids such as the trailer light test). Hope you enjoy and let me know what your experience has been!

[@rogerstephenson7820]

Had the older 3.2 wild track, did alot of towing, always upto 3.5tons plus handled it ok, replaced it with the 2.0 biturbo, pulls much better than the 3.2, the 10 speed auto works superb, always has a gear available under heavy loads, the torque range on the biturbo is 1500-2500revs, any more and it's pointless over revving, for a 2 ltr engine it does very well, you have to keep that in mind, can recommend, when running with out a trailer, very impressive, more than quick enough for real world driving, very quiet and refined, very good spec and all round vehicle, tried a hilux 2.8 before the ranger, very disappointing, not in the same league on refinement and ease of driving compared to the ranger

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Interesting to hear thanks for sharing Roger 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@stevebeck9470]

Great video , I guess there is no replacement for displacement ! Just a note when hooking up your red break away cable don't just loop it round the tow ball as if the hitch came of there is a chance the break away will come off too . There is an oval hole on the frame of the tow bar to click the clip through . Was thinking of replacing my Audi Q7 4.2tdi with a ranger but as I tow a 3000kg trailer everywhere for work even the larger engined ranger is well down on my current 340 bhp

[@robholland1937]

No replacement for displacement 😂

[@SamPegg84]

This is very much down to personal preference, there are thousands of people towing with the 2.0 who are more than happy with it. I nearly bought a 2.0 Wildtrack new model Ranger but ended up with a SsangYong Musso 2.2 diesel. It tows effortlessly.

[@nicholassadowski9871]

Musso is such good value and pulls like a train. I have one for work.

[@markgt894]

diesels are dog 💩

[@terryquest]

Do you tow to the limit of 3.5t with your Musso? I keep thinking of getting one but I read the engine struggles when towing it's limit.

[@SamPegg84]

@@terryquest 2 tonne is my max, it tows it well. I probably wouldn’t want to tow 3.5 with it, but remember it’s a 2.2 4 cylinder any engine of that capacity is not going to like having to move what is effectively 5.5 tonnes as the Musso weighs two tonnes itself.

[@hedydd2]

The tow hitch on Wildtrak is at exactly the right height for Ifor Williams or equivalent industrial heavy duty trailers. I regularly tow up to the full 3.5 ton trailers. The 2.0 twin turbo has no issue whatsoever towing that weight around hilly Welsh roads. My new model 2023 Ranger Wildtrak does not rev high unless I plant my foot on the pedal, which is unnecessary. It also seems much quieter than your diesel. I also have a 2014 Ranger 2.2 diesel with six speed auto that has towed ‘a lot’ and while not in the same league as the latest 2.0, it also tows 3.5 tons of trailer filled with cattle which move around in transit, no problem. Unfortunately the market for double cab pickups will shrink drastically from next April because all double cab pickups will be taxed as cars, as the Raptor already is. Commercial users will be greatly inconvenienced and have increased costs and will need to buy single cab pickups and run an extra car to transport workers to their work site. Ridiculous!

[@darenbirch1392]

It would be good if you can compare the new V6 Diesel Ranger for towing too

[@theloneranger2101]

You made a good choice, Doc. I'm sure you and the family will have lots of really happy holidays now. 👍🙂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@tonymcgenius1844]

Interesting comparison, enjoying the raptor content 👌

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Cheers Tony good to hear you enjoy it!

[@hellennyx]

Thanks for the interesting videos, it helped validating my decision of purchasing 3.0 petrol instead of the diesel version, despite the insane mpg!!! 1.Do you happen to know where was your Raptor manufactured/assembled? The information on the web is very vague - I'd assume South Africa or Thailand? Couldn't find anything clear about a Ranger assembly unit in Europe. 2. Did your Raptor come with the remote start and/or FordPass? It would be interesting to see a video on the topic, not too many out there. All in all, may you enjoy it to the fullest and looking forward to watching your Raptor journey!

[@richardoverton9599]

Could you get hold of a V6 Diesel and do a comparison? Cheers.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Hey Richard- would love to- they are really hard to get hold of here in the UK/really expensive at the moment - I think it’s something to do with them All being reserved for the MSRT builds

[@richardoverton9599]

@@thedoctorsgarage I’ve got a 90 hard top for work. I always use to have pick ups but find the jittery ride doesn’t suit my back now! I’d have a Raptor as I think the suspension set up would sort that out but need to tow 3.5 tonnes. Always like and appreciate your honest videos.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@richardoverton9599 thanks 🙏🏼 the raptor is really smooth - feels more like a luxury SUV than a pick up but yes towing would be an issue- unless you did something with the rear shocks - I think some in the states have changed the suspension set up at the rear to tow with but as you say the V6 diesel would probably be the better choice

[@rich7447]

@@richardoverton9599 F150 would give you more tow capacity than the Wildtrak and more ride comfort than the Ranger Raptor.

[@ashcraftcp6]

What brand roller cover?

[@rayrooney1]

I have a new v6 Amarok and it’s excellent for towing didn’t want the 2.0l version too small an engine for big pickup. I couldn’t live with the v6 petrol ranger too thirsty a v6 diesel is sore enough.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Out of interest what do you get out of your diesel MPG wise?

[@rayrooney1]

@@thedoctorsgarage long distance drive you could get around 31-33 mpg at a push. Town driving 27mpg, Towing somewhere around 22mpg.

[@markgt894]

@@rayrooney1 not in the same league as Ranger Raptor

[@rayrooney1]

@@markgt894 no different thing entirely, just better than the 2.0l for sure.

[@markgt894]

@@rayrooney1 much better ride and engine

[@TheOuboet]

6:00 What a great transition.

[@rich7447]

Why does the Ranger not have a hitch receiver. The fixed, phallic looking, hitch is not what should be on a tow vehicle. A receiver would let you change hitch height based on the trailer than you plan to hook up. Plus you can remove the hitch/ball when you aren't using it.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

The ranger raptor does but not the ranger

[@rich7447]

@@thedoctorsgarage I saw the receiver on the RR, but then the hitch insert was just a receiver version of the same hitch as the Ranger. Are other hitch types available to fit receivers in the UK? We have many different hitch options for conventional hitches. I routinely have between 1,200 to 2,000 lbs (up to 3,000 sometimes, but usually go to gooseneck on trailers over 20,000lbs) on the conventional hitch and would be very nervous about having that kind of tongue weight on that setup. I do realize that the UK has a 3,500kg maximum for most people that are towing.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@rich7447 then RR has a 2inch receiver but I think that’s quite unusual in the UK and as you say most vehicles here can only tow up to 3.5t I believe

[@cblack1green]

Do you put premium petrol in your truck or just regular E10, I may well buy one of these but there used price is still very high , for me the truck would not be my every day drive more bad weather or weekend warrior.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I’ve just used regular E10 at the moment - used prices still really strong- in the states they are trading for over list!

[@janlojko5228]

Keep a spare engine in the back ready for when it goes bang it not if but when

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 I hope not

[@dannypahulu1939]

3.2 ford ranger are the one to get better for towing

[@audibell]

I love your Ford Ranger can you drive a minibus?

[@nicholassadowski9871]

Better off getting a v6 wildtrak. Cheaper, VAT deductible pulls more carries more !

[@jampot20000]

Interesting a 2l engine isn't going to cut it. The mpg is very poor and for me wouldn't be interest. A 3l diesel is better any day. The 2l Discoery was often sluggish setting off and am glad I sold it.

[@clivefoster1073]

I don’t believe those roller shutters are waterproof, with all the rain we have in the uk, welcome your experience during the rainy season, ( the summer) .

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 so far so good and it’s been pretty wet!

[@Mikelennon78]

The V6 has had most of the issues, in Australia. The Bi Turbo is proving to be a more reliable engine.

[@tallboy49]

What issues. Please elaborate as there are heaps of the v6 motors where i live and no one has had any problems. Sounds like a Toyota lover speaking.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@tallboy49 I’d be interest to hear the issues on the V6 too!

[@Mikelennon78]

@@tallboy49 I'm a Ford technician.

[@Mikelennon78]

@thedoctorsgarage The V6 is based on the old Lion V6. I have seen multiple crankshaft failures with some leading to catastrophic engine failure. The high flow turbu has also seen multiple replacements. The 10 speed trans isn't geared adequately to the engine, resulting in damage to the driveline. Electrical issues also seem to be a common issue. I have seen far less warranty repairs in regard to the Bi Turbo come in to the dealership. Mostly like ancillary issues not related to the engine and driveline.

[@Mikelennon78]

@@tallboy49 One word. Tundra.

[@phillipchandler8862]

Great motor. Would be a lot better if you could get 28mpg.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Yeah that’s the downside to it all!

[@S8GDY]

Why didn't you just buy an X5? problem sorted.

[@rich7447]

The X5 is not a very good tow vehicle.

[@S8GDY]

@@rich7447 explain why?

[@rich7447]

@@S8GDY It's a short wheelbase and has very little payload.

[@S8GDY]

@@rich7447 The towing capacity of the X5 supports up to 3500kg and Torque is 700 Nm (516 lb-ft) Short wheelbase?? Going from a disco 5 to an X5 would of been a better choice.

[@rich7447]

@@S8GDY The Discovery is an even worse tow vehicle. For towing purposes, the X5 is short wheelbase (117"). Very short. It makes okay power, but is really limited as a tow vehicle. Payload is just under 700kg, so after accounting for the minimum 350kg tongue weight of a 3,500 kg, you are down to less than 350 kg for driver/passengers and their stuff. I should probably point out that I'm in North America and we have very different ideas of what is suitable and not suitable to tow. My tow vehicle has 176" wheelbase, and makes 1,633 Nm/1,200 lb ft of torque. At 3,500kg I would want more than an X5 or a Ranger if towing for more than a short distance. More tow vehicle for the size of the trailer means easier towing and less fatigue.

[@micktheclick1]

Toyota Hilux 2.8 👍

[@kildare1773]

Can't beat plenty of power

[@Thinkforyourselvz]

They are shit, in the wet, they boost up and loose traction in the arse end, even when towing. When turning from a standing start they just loose traction on the inside wheel. I sold mine, they might be popular, but in my opinion are rubbish, including off road, they struggle, all show & No Go.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Out of interest are you in the UK with a euro spec pick up?

[@craigwarden6630]

Better o f with a 6 cylinder. Tow Better Had these 4 cylinder turbos Crap

[@buzzhawk6497]

Dont know how this is even a fair comparison you are comparing a commercial vehicle with a 2l deisel engine against a non comercial car with a 3l v6 petrol engine The raptor has a much lower towing capacity with 100 hp more...... a very bias review

[@PeterMenzies-t4r]

Without revving the nuts off it a 2.0 litre engine simply does not have enough low end torque for comfortable towing.

[@davidforbes6250]

Don't overrev, drive slower and stay in the left lane,patience is a ?