FORD RANGER 2020 3.2 litre vs 2.0 litre BI-TURBO TOW TEST

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@philross1680
@philross1680 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned my MY19 Ranger BiTurbo for about 18 months now and absolutely love the performance, handling and quietness of the vehicle. My only niggle was a jittery feel and slight lag in the transmission but a recent recall to upgrade the software seems to have fixed this and has made the car feel a lot more smoother and responsive.
@Karakaboardriders
@Karakaboardriders Жыл бұрын
Get at throttle controller. I just got a wildtrak same year same motor and didn't like how laggy the throttle was so put the throttle controller I had in my Px1 super cab into it and wow it's brutally fast and responsive.
@OzTrollracing
@OzTrollracing 2 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued three years on what your opinion of the vehicle is and how many ks you've done now?
@brixsteezy4486
@brixsteezy4486 4 жыл бұрын
My father bought a 2.0l ranger wildtrak in march 2019 ,he has been using it daily for heavy loads for like a year now and still it held up pretty good it has about a 65000 kms in its milage and it still runs really smooth,there was this one time that it had to tow an old isuzu dumptruck from narra to brookes point palawan Philippines(yes im a Filipino) it was about 115 km trip and it dint have a problem towing it for about 2hours straight,the wildtrak has good performance and great durability it has gone through a high mountains and rivers to transport rice for local natives has towned alot of other vehicles and all i can say is it held up and still performs well,i feel bad for the ranger getting hate from people,just because the sentence *_there's no replacement for displacement_* is the usual rule americans and other rich countries consider before buying a truck it hurts people like us who hear wrong things about a truck that has good qualities,just from experience i know the ranger wildtrak will last long because if it the engine wasn't durable it could have already exploaded when it was towing trucks but no it dint and it is still alive to this day
@martinjudd1284
@martinjudd1284 4 жыл бұрын
Just need to point out that it is not a 2.2L the Biturbo engine is a 2.0L
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinjudd1284 Yes. I have a 2.2 automatic [150hp] and it tows 3.5 tons easily, although I bet the 0-100kph time isn't very impressive. Who cares? I don't. What I do care about is the emissions crap that stops the engine from gaining power off idle without a long delay. Pulling out of a junction uphill with 3+ tons behind is a very leisurely business indeed but once it gets going it is fine. Would need low range every time if it was a manual version without a torque convertor.
@Jonobueno
@Jonobueno 6 ай бұрын
Palawan is a really nice place. Loved my time in El Nido and other spots. Awesome!
@KaburuMNgariama
@KaburuMNgariama 23 күн бұрын
Local natives eh? Who are those now?
@nandorherpai8581
@nandorherpai8581 4 жыл бұрын
Two days ago I run to the local Ford dealer and quickly bought one of the few remaining old 3.2 Litre Wildtrak. The salesman told me that only a few left because people buying them as never before...
@MrKiwijosh
@MrKiwijosh 4 жыл бұрын
Salesman are good at telling you what you want to hear.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
That's because they are massively discounted compared to the new stock.
@jimmybe64
@jimmybe64 4 жыл бұрын
Never ask or believe a sales person
@billgates3452
@billgates3452 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison guys, after owing both and as a diesel mechanic I agree and can hands down say the 2L (and trans) is the better engine in every way that counts. Yes I wish we had a 6 or v8 diesel option but there are advantages and efficiencies by staying small.
@MountainTrailRV
@MountainTrailRV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great feedback! We agree!
@marcusbarnes5929
@marcusbarnes5929 Жыл бұрын
Tune the 3.2L and it blows the doors off the 2.0L biturbo it's not even in the same ball park.
@billgates3452
@billgates3452 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusbarnes5929 yeah actually you are so right what was everyone thinking. I also agree comparing a tuned and stock engine is a fair comparison. I’ve got a great idea, let’s run down to Ford and buy a new Ranger with the 3.2L, oh wait the dinosaur has been discontinued. Definitely in different leagues.
@marcusbarnes5929
@marcusbarnes5929 Жыл бұрын
@billgates3452 🤣🥴 The stock amount of boost in the 2.0L reaching upto 30psi is still alot higher than a tuned 3.2L.. Adding just a few more pounds of boost in the tune to the 3.2L to make around 22 to 24 psi and its all around superior to the little 2.0L. The 3.2L is alot more reliable for towing. The 3.2L is not tuned to 1 inch of its life from factory so has alot of power to make. The new 3.0L v6 diesel should be great and tuned quite well from factory ...notice how the 2.0L biturbo is the poverty spec engine in the new rangers.
@billgates3452
@billgates3452 Жыл бұрын
@@marcusbarnes5929 yeah what you said is completely irrelevant, stock vs tuned means nothing. The 2.0L is a new generation engine, it tows much better, it’s faster, better on fuel and so far has been just as reliable if not more than the 3.2L. As soon as the 2.0L was released it was the premium & best option, you had to pay more to get it and they used it in the Raptor, 3.2L was the basic bitch. biturbo now sits below the V6 but 3.2L has been outperformed in every metric and has been deleted. I don’t dislike the 3.2l and believe whatever you want, I’m a qualified diesel tech & I’ve owned both and facts are facts.
@jonathancanavan9146
@jonathancanavan9146 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best car reviews I have seen. Very informative and detailed. Well done to all involved. More like this please.
@gregfletcher3358
@gregfletcher3358 3 жыл бұрын
You had the 3.2 litre in Drive and the 2.0 litre in S sports mode on the hill climb. Sports mode will change down sooner and hold the gear higher into the rev range compared to Drive mode.
@351tgv
@351tgv 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly and these buffoons have yet to say why they made this monumental f up.
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 2 жыл бұрын
@@351tgv read their comments, they ran both tests in S mode, it’s just the B roll that shows the transmission in D, but that’s not how they did the test.
@kentaylor2950
@kentaylor2950 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at rangers and will still go with the 3.2L because it's a known factor. They have been quite reliable for 10 years or so whereas I'm not convinced thr 2L will be as reliable. Surely the 2L is much more highly stressed and running near maximum whereas thr 3.2L can be tuned up to gain more power. Interesting to see long term results for these engines.
@jemijona
@jemijona Ай бұрын
As others have said for the hill climb, the 2l is in sports mode and the 3.2l is in drive. Different pumps used at the servo on the after run fills, and the 2l did its run later in the day, with possibly cooler air. I'll stick with the less stressed 3.2.
@darrenrobinson9242
@darrenrobinson9242 4 жыл бұрын
I drove both as well. I bought the 2.0 bi turbo. Was no comparison. 3.2 felt lazy and noisey. I also tow a big boat. You don’t even know it’s there.
@nev57
@nev57 4 жыл бұрын
sounds good darren how much can the 2.litre tow ,ive got pajero 3.2 litre turbo ,i love the car for its 4wd capability,but im gonna buy an 18ft off road twin axle caravan that appear to be heavier than the normal vans and im wondering about these cars .
@lemrivanroiset5926
@lemrivanroiset5926 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I drive 3.2 a little bit not aggressive. 2.0 is much responsive and smooth
@kevinblythe2192
@kevinblythe2192 3 жыл бұрын
Like any motor, a detuned or badly tuned 3.2l will ALWAYS give a poor result. We don't know how well it was tuned for this comparison do we? I'll take the bigger motor any day. It will last twice as long for a start cause that little motor is seriously stressed hauling around up to 6 ton including van. The 3.2l does it easily. This is about Ford offering a cheaper smaller motor with slightly better fuel economy and possibly emissions. In this disposable age the smaller motor offered is NOT designed to improve longevity so there's that.
@ibramguirguis
@ibramguirguis 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, the only thing they noticed the smaller turbo when it boosts. Well install a bi-turbo on the 3.2l and watch the fireworks. Let's see the 2.0l when it reaches the 150k. @@kevinblythe2192
@mikesievers1482
@mikesievers1482 3 жыл бұрын
@@ibramguirguis you're not wrong. We have a 2.0L ranger for dedicated towing duties, has pulled between 2.5 and 3.2 ton five day's a week, depending on the job since 6000 km's and it's pretty much rooted. Compared to our other 2.0L ranger that has never towed (dedicated pilot vehicle) which still drives as tight as a drum. Despite being purchased six months apart, they both have roughly 160,000 km's on them. Given this has been a long term test for us (by default), I think for the average man in the street towing a caravan or boat over the holidays, the 2.0L is more than adequate. But as a long term proposition, forget it. I can't really comment on the 3.2, as I've never driven one to compare, but I suspect a comparably lazier 5 cyl would/should last longer than a higher stressed 4 cylinder. Towing 3000 + kgs combined with the weight of the truck with a small capacity 2.0L engine is a big ask in anybody's language.
@paulwebb2097
@paulwebb2097 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. Just still a little concerned with the BiTurbo as there has been quite a few Gearbox oil pump issues that are coming to light.
@jaimusicxx
@jaimusicxx 4 жыл бұрын
no need for concern; i had the gearbox fixed twice in my old 3.2; once at 45,000 kms and then a gearbox overhaul (shim failed) at 78,000 kms; so far the 10 speed has been flawless
@JMo1515
@JMo1515 4 жыл бұрын
It’s an official recall no so it’s been addressed.
@donigilobor7721
@donigilobor7721 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Amazing comparison, it provides more information. Thank you again & more power to you guys...🙂👍
@KingMarvin
@KingMarvin 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is very informative! It really helps me to decide which engine is best for me. BIG THANKS you all.
@raulrrojas
@raulrrojas 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trust it that much, these people are probably being paid..
@lukes5533
@lukes5533 4 жыл бұрын
I think the 10 speed automatic is the real reason of dominance and the 3.2 will last longer for sure if you do that test everyday
@ricardoperks396
@ricardoperks396 4 жыл бұрын
So what if you put the 3.2L on the 10 speed tranny? The torque and KW numbers on the engines are at the flywheel so ???
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
The performance difference is down as much to the 10 speed auto as anything. The 6 speed is a reluctant shifter, both up and down the range, and it has a massive gap between second and third. The 10 speed is responsive and seamless. Yes the 2.0 is quieter and more refined and I feel that the suspension on the current 2.0 is more refined than older versions as well. Its a win-win for the 2.0 bi-turbo with 10 speed automatic, no doubt about it.
@darbyharrison3876
@darbyharrison3876 3 жыл бұрын
Please get the 3.2, my dads mate is a mechanic and he said the 2.0 litre is better for around town. But when towing or light off roading it struggles and when towing they have more issues. He said do not get one overall. He said heaps of the 2.0 are in the shop with blown head gaskets and the 10 speed is a disaster
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 Жыл бұрын
@@darbyharrison3876 Neither of which is true. Both had the usual teething troubles on early build, especially the 2.0 engine which was fitted in Transit for a couple of years before hitting the Ranger. Biggest issues were failures or the wet belts and injectors which would fail and burn through pistons. The injectors were sourced from specialists of course and have now been replaced by revised units. I am about to take delivery [June 2023] of the latest model Ranger Wildtrak with the 2 litre engine. I have every confidence in the 10 speed auto because Ford must have made over 2 million units by now and issues are few and far between and mostly on early builds. This new one will be in addition to my existing 2.2 auto that has given great service for the last nine years, mainly needing the occasional new rear spring but recently blew its top pressurised hose from the top of the intercooler to the intake manifold.
@troynewman6441
@troynewman6441 2 жыл бұрын
The 10 speed was in 3rd gear going up the hill that’s like the 6 speed being in 1.5 gear so the 10 speed will have higher temps due to the more times it’s has to shift to maintain the speed therefore more engine rpm which means more boost which means more stress on the engine
@matdavey719
@matdavey719 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video but I feel like you guys missed the mark with this one. The 10 speed box is the main reason for the difference, not the 2l engine. With such a small power and torque difference between the two motors, the gearbox is the main contributor to the acceleration and towing capability of the 2l ranger.
@Absilon13
@Absilon13 4 жыл бұрын
In india ford discontinued the 3.2 ltr 5 cylinder even though it was quite a success,they now offer a 2.0 ltr 4 cylinder single turbo capable of putting 170 hp and a 400 nm figure.
@Techybyker
@Techybyker 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys! Very informative. Keep it up!
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 10 ай бұрын
My experience, put a 3 inch exhaust, larger intercooler, upgraded turbo, ( 20% increase and faster spooling, , better bearing after market turbo costs less than factory replacement) remap for torque on the 3.2 P5 engine and the increase in towing power is very noticeable, a larger replacement trans cooler to replace under size close coupled often problematic water cooled factory cooler is also imperative if towing in hot Australian climate also IMO. Unsure as to if the 10 speed auto has a better cooler than the factory 6 speed ? however it should be as the number of Ranger owners towing suffering limp mode due to heat sensor trans problems with the 6 speed is considerable. Modifying your highly accessorised Ranger 3.2 is way less expensive than starting all over on a new overpriced and yet unproven timewise bi turbo engine. IMO. This will easily equalise the power differential between the bi turbo 2 liter and the 3.2 5 cylinder engine. If you really want a power increase pay the 3 or so grand extra for the V6, although this is really a modified and power reduced Ford LION series engine as fitted to earlier 2.7 and 3 liter Discovery's that were known for crankshaft breakages. Hopefully the newer Ranger V6 still based on Ford's LION engine will have better crank oiling, a strengthened crankshaft and less stressed due to lesser power output compared to the L/R's LION engine will make this a more reliable engine, however time will tell ! Ford will distance this engine from the LR engine but its design lineage is the same. Interestingly the VW Amarok V6 (Volvo design I think) engine has been quite reliable, my money would have been on the VW fitted V6 however again time will tell and the redesign of the LION engine may be sufficient. Jus sayin'
@ethangillett4123
@ethangillett4123 4 жыл бұрын
I put an I drive throttle controller in my 2018 xlt 3.2 litre and it really makes a difference pulled out out the dealership after getting it serviced and put my foot down a bit too much left skids up the road for about 10m oops 😬
@ovmied00
@ovmied00 2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the 2.0 bi turbo a year on? Has it blown up yet?
@kevinblythe2192
@kevinblythe2192 3 жыл бұрын
If both utes were dyno tested before these tests I would would have more confidence in the results and lets not forget different tyre pressures make a big difference also. Was all this done in advance? Common sense seems to indicate that a 3.2l motor is there for the long haul.
@elpeladodelsambaelpeladode4917
@elpeladodelsambaelpeladode4917 4 жыл бұрын
There is no repleacement for dispacement
@trevorshields7347
@trevorshields7347 4 жыл бұрын
That might have been the case years ago but technology has changed a lot in engineering over the past few years
@elpeladodelsambaelpeladode4917
@elpeladodelsambaelpeladode4917 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor Shields dont agree! More displacemet plus engineering same case!
@larjkok1184
@larjkok1184 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t you watched the video?
@jasonfields2793
@jasonfields2793 4 жыл бұрын
The gearbox is what makes the biggest difference 6 speed v 10 speed the 2ltrs always able to be in the power band and will always win. However neither gearbox is particularly reliable
@leoesposito8762
@leoesposito8762 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff lads.. great vid 👌 very interesting...
@chrisgibsoneventmanagement
@chrisgibsoneventmanagement 3 жыл бұрын
Put a deposit on a 3.2 then went back and cancelled that order and bought the bi-turbo based on owner recommendations and this video.I am also told that Ford will be dropping the 3.2 litre in future and going to make 2 litre bi-turbo instead.
@grahamoldfield3474
@grahamoldfield3474 4 жыл бұрын
Got to say the 10 sped gearbox has problems over in the states .When its out of warranty I really wonder about how much the gearbox will cost to replace or the twin turbo motor ,? ? ?
@buzzpedrotti5401
@buzzpedrotti5401 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work in Australia. Interesting.
@four4xxxx
@four4xxxx 3 жыл бұрын
As a loving owner of my 3.2L abd nothing is better than CC's I will say this makes me think. Living in Dubai the 3.2L is awesome on the torque demanding soft sand dunes. As for ling term reliability. Yeah I'm concerned this is the Nissan Patrol 3L DT all over again but I suppose if you buying these 2nd hand with 250,000 km of the clock in 5 to 10 yrs then maybe time will tell. Question though. If the 2L TTD is so good, why did it take Ford so long to kill the 3.2L which wont go until mid 2021?
@gruberra
@gruberra 3 жыл бұрын
How about the 3.2l with the 10 speed gear box of the biturbo 🤔
@gladlyfischer2208
@gladlyfischer2208 4 жыл бұрын
My honest opinion is that, that engine is the same as the amarok for now its ok but when it comes to hard work it wil not outlast the 3.2
@watpat4930
@watpat4930 4 жыл бұрын
No engine braking test?
@agilelad
@agilelad 4 жыл бұрын
2 ltr doesn't come up trumps on that side of things
@watpat4930
@watpat4930 4 жыл бұрын
Tezza H , it is a hugely important factor in towing so it is a shame it wasn’t cover in this ‘tow test!’
@supertreme5559
@supertreme5559 Жыл бұрын
wierd how USA has brake controller but in europe its a mechanical that is on all trailers over 750kg
@genius-no5sl
@genius-no5sl 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a bi turbo engine.
@MrTsmith13
@MrTsmith13 4 жыл бұрын
How come you didn't do a brake test on the second one
@larjkok1184
@larjkok1184 4 жыл бұрын
Because they have the same brakes.
@edwardgmalanda5621
@edwardgmalanda5621 3 жыл бұрын
What diesel did you fill up with
@partyboi69er
@partyboi69er 4 жыл бұрын
6 speed vs 10 speed? 4 more gears will always be better for towing
@ZE09ISLANDIA
@ZE09ISLANDIA 4 жыл бұрын
I like to see the 3.2 with the same compound turbos and gear box
@partyboi69er
@partyboi69er 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZE09ISLANDIA I would buy another 3.2 with a 10 speed as the 2.0ltr works around 35% harder for 10kw extra. I did proper dyno tune and now make 140kw at the wheels around 187kw at the crank, safe and reliable.
@Jeffnz020
@Jeffnz020 4 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 is asthmatic asf. Ford needs to put the 3l v6 diesel out of the f150 in the ranger and everest. 2l bi turbo will self destruct before 200k if its worked hard.
@mohammedjaved4382
@mohammedjaved4382 4 жыл бұрын
Yes give us the 3l V6 out of f150 and into a ranger then we can finally annihilate the V6 Amorok
@philmja9143
@philmja9143 4 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 was programmed by a bunch of fucking ninnies at Ford. Good powerfull engine but the torque is strangled. A re-map will make a huge difference. Most if not all the vids on KZbin that I've watched on re-mapped fast as fuck Rangers its always the 3.2 Wildtrak because once the chains are loose it will go like shit off a shovel.
@pbodymathis
@pbodymathis 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 2015 Ranger Wildtrak here in Thailand and love the performance of it. The only problem is that you cannot really drive it with the traffic and road conditions and I have never had a load on it. Other than that it is very peppy and feels a lot like the 6.0 l diesels I drove in my F 250's in 2004 ish back in Texas.
@Patrick-oh7rk
@Patrick-oh7rk 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 550 amarok.. probably walk its ass over these.. i want to see next wildtrack, raptor and maybe xlt with v6 power to keep up with me
@jimmybe64
@jimmybe64 4 жыл бұрын
@@vevohoeyo Thailand bro. Where are Fords made?
@billroach2393
@billroach2393 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of what happened in 2000.... I was in the market to upgrade from my old GQ 4.2 (with aftermarket turbo) diesel, into a new GU Patrol. The salesman at the Nissan dealer in Cooma had one of the (then) brand new 3 litre GUs on the lot as a demo. I took it for a drive....it went like stink!!! Much quicker than my old 4.2TD. When I got back to his shop I ordered a new GU from him...BUT I ordered the 4.2TD. He tried to talk me out of it; reckoned I was crazy because the 3 litre had more power and torque (on paper) than the new GU factory turbo GU. I insisted on the 4.2TD because I was concerned about the LONGEVITY of a 3 litre engine...and I was only towing a 1200kg camper trailer! History proved my concerns to be well-founded...the 3 litre was to go on to earn the nickname "GRENADE". I can't help feeling this could be a case of Ford repeating history with the 2 litre go-fast bi-turbo.
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously engines have come a long way since 2000 but i actually agree with you. i would much rather a detuned higher displacement than a highly strung lower displacement.
@daverandall747
@daverandall747 4 жыл бұрын
I was told by an employee of a Ford dealership to buy the 3.2 just for the reason you stated above
@daverandall747
@daverandall747 4 жыл бұрын
@chris beerad Big deal
@kevinoh4432
@kevinoh4432 4 жыл бұрын
@chris beerad that gq definitely has a piston clearance issue 🤣
@ហុនសុវណ្ណារ័ត្នហុនសុវណ្ណារុង
@ហុនសុវណ្ណារ័ត្នហុនសុវណ្ណារុង 4 жыл бұрын
Kolb
@jurgenfreissmuth9375
@jurgenfreissmuth9375 3 жыл бұрын
The comparison of durability and maintenance costs after 150 000 km would be interesting
@s4060
@s4060 3 жыл бұрын
Just look at car sales…. How many are 350,000kms?
@brucehart4627
@brucehart4627 3 жыл бұрын
I think Id prefer the 3.2 l for longevity
@JimBob-vb8oz
@JimBob-vb8oz 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't trust either of them to reach 150,000 kms honestly
@bryaname6644
@bryaname6644 3 жыл бұрын
Who keeps a ute beyond 150,000kms
@adpar4247
@adpar4247 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Amarok 2.0 2013 with 480,000km. Engine intact
@Ciddiyetle
@Ciddiyetle 4 жыл бұрын
15:50 The Results
@privatsergej
@privatsergej 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gregreed402
@gregreed402 4 жыл бұрын
Things are good when their brand new and technology is also awesome ,but in the end it will tell the truth if you own it long enough
@Chris.Mechanic
@Chris.Mechanic 3 жыл бұрын
that is exactly my concern. In F1 we have 700+ HP from 1.6 or so but millage ;) So yes, 2.0 bi-turbo is stronger etc but will it last as long as 3,.2? I doubt... I drive Kia Sorento 2.5 CRDI 2004. It is 16 yrs old 330+ kkm and engine and gearbox (automatic) works still like a charm. No failures up to now, exept two injectors that needed to be replaced by 160 and 230 kkm. Turbo still without any touch. That's it. Will 2.0 bi-turbo makes the same? I really really doubt...
@johno8397
@johno8397 4 жыл бұрын
My 2L has total gearbox failure at 22,000km and now has been recalled again for upgrades. Stay away very unreliable.
@Wrastleman903
@Wrastleman903 4 жыл бұрын
Shoulda bought a Ram!
@hazza_007
@hazza_007 4 жыл бұрын
What was the end result? Also what kind of driving have you been doing or towing
@borisivancic222
@borisivancic222 4 жыл бұрын
I had a new engine 3.2L at 3,000km, you did better
@vevohoeyo
@vevohoeyo 4 жыл бұрын
You dont have one. Your simply hating on them cos u poor dog.
@flyingrc2041
@flyingrc2041 4 жыл бұрын
@@vevohoeyo Most people who drive new cars are poor!
@desmondanfield7771
@desmondanfield7771 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison, but, you have to keep in mind the 3.2 has a six-xpeed box vs the 10-speed on the 2.0. i'm not doubting the power figures or ability of these beasts but to be fair, with KW and Torque figures fairly close, the gearbox makes a big difference.
@Anachroschism
@Anachroschism 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to have gotten the 10 speed in the 3.2. Personally, I would rather a larger engine doing less work, than a smaller engine working over-time, and it worries me what reliability will be like. If you only keep your ranger a few years as a work car, then go for the 2.0, but if you want a better resale value and want it to last, then go the 3.2, which can be cheaply retuned to put out the same amount of power as the 2.0, if desired.
@stephenlee5497
@stephenlee5497 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah spot on. The old adage that there's no replacement for displacement may not necessarily apply if you have an auto with 10 gears!
@TheTripleDubya
@TheTripleDubya 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno, one guy on here is saying what I've heard from other sources, the ten speeds are not yet sorted (his blew up !), so right now, maybe just maybe, the older rig is a better thing all round.
@einfelder8262
@einfelder8262 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTripleDubya The gearboxes in the 3.2 shit themselves all the time too. Can't be rebuilt, so I've heard, have to be replaced. They are both still Fords.......
@darrynrich6616
@darrynrich6616 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anachroschism How is the smaller engine doing extra work??? RPM is work applied...the bi turbo sits on lower revs in all aspects. The engine runs a small turbo so it does not lag, 3.2 has turbo lag low meaning until the turbo spools it is labouring and working hard...when it is at speed the gear box sits the bi turbo motor at a bout 1500rpm...the 3.2 always sits 2000rpm...so as a min the 3.2 works 30% harder...not taking into the account more power and torque earlier in the bi turbo.At 1500rpm the bi turbo it hitting 470nm and the 3.2 does not get 470nm till about 2000rpm...at 3200rpm the 3.2l dies in torque back from 360nm to 318nm...the bi turbo is still at 420nm and does not drop to 400nm until 3750rpm... bi turbo is 50kg lighter as well...so please explain how it works harder ??? if you retune the biturbo as well you get benifit more than 3.2 due to being able to tune 2 turbos and more advanced management system..
@nandorherpai8581
@nandorherpai8581 4 жыл бұрын
I went to Ford and quickly bought one of the few leftover 3.2L Wildtrak :) People from Ford told me that now everybody wants the 3.2L..
@mohdyasin7172
@mohdyasin7172 3 жыл бұрын
Mind sharing why? Im curios
@jamesrochez-maggs9594
@jamesrochez-maggs9594 3 жыл бұрын
Yer because it won’t blow up when you tow 3t with it everyday!
@cordellej
@cordellej 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohdyasin7172 thats because a 2L engine producing alot of power is more stressed than a 3.2L producing the same amount of power. the 3.2L will last longer because the engine is just less stressed . the 2.0 is a 4 piston engine the 3.2 is a 5 piston so stress is spread across 5 pistons rather than 4 so each piston is doing less work hence less wear on the engine. the 3.2 is the better engine what would be amazing is a 3.2 with the 10 speed auto . and the gearbox is the only reason the 2.0 did better in this test it came down to gearing
3 жыл бұрын
@@cordellej that can not be taken as general rule, engine design has most influence: never forget famous Nissan 3.0 litre "granade" engine
@paul.i3606
@paul.i3606 3 жыл бұрын
They say that as they are trying to sell the remaining 3.2s
@panos8444
@panos8444 4 жыл бұрын
Side by side the 2.0L has to work 70% harder than the 3.2L to make the same power, something to consider longevity?
@gerriepretoruis1138
@gerriepretoruis1138 2 жыл бұрын
Nou praat ju 3.2 beter motor
@dhiquobgnaloo
@dhiquobgnaloo 4 жыл бұрын
Extracting big power from a small capacity engine means it has to work harder which usually make it less reliable in the long run.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. Engines have been getting more powerful per unit of swept volume for donkey's years and at the same time they have become more reliable, more refined, more economical and needed less servicing. Engines today last longer in general than they ever have. 250,000 miles with nothing but routine maintenance is commonplace, while back in the 1970's if an engine hit 60,000 without having the head off it was unusual and if it lasted 100,000 miles it was the talk of the district, all on 3000 to 5000 mile oil changes. I think the new Ranger has 20,000 mile service intervals.
@bengibson3955
@bengibson3955 4 жыл бұрын
Huw Williams damn straight, Huw! Engines with good bearing tolerances, oil supply and tune run on a film of oil. I’ve pulled down my 2 litre Subaru EJ207 which had 60,000km of running at around 280kw and much of that was on a race circuit. Pulled it out to put a bigger, more mental engine in it and the mains and big end bearings are perfect. Cross-hatching is still evident on the bores. These are considered fragile engines with narrow bearings. Way better than my old Clevo which was putting out less power with none of the abuse.
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 4 жыл бұрын
100% correct!
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 4 жыл бұрын
I thought like that too. But, I suggest you take a look at “Auto Expert” latest video. He discusses this exact issue and you might be surprised. Cheers
@gigaboat
@gigaboat 4 жыл бұрын
Aviation is the obvious comparison. Modern Tech makes 4 engine planes extinct except for cargo.. Big power from NEO makes twin engine jets far superior. Good bye old friend 747 I loved you Queen of the sky.
@wkdblue62
@wkdblue62 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure it would be classed as a fair test or how much difference it makes but you tested the 3.2 in D and the 2ltr in S. Would this not change the way each vehicle goes up the gears.
@BryanM63
@BryanM63 3 жыл бұрын
It would make a massive difference. In drive the transmission is trying to select the highest gear possible to maintain economy. In Sport mode the transmission is trying to maintain power. The owners manual tells you to tow in sport mode.
@tlevans62
@tlevans62 2 жыл бұрын
Read the comments, they ran both tests in S mode. The B roll footage shows D, but that’s not how the test was run.
@christeitzel9609
@christeitzel9609 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the result would be if they both had a 10 speed gearbox...
@keithklijnsma7678
@keithklijnsma7678 4 жыл бұрын
it would be the same result.
@akuapiatas
@akuapiatas 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the result would be had the 5cyl had twin turbos
@timfreeman2603
@timfreeman2603 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the 2.0L would be like with another cylinder?
@MarinePredators84
@MarinePredators84 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 2.0L was a 6.0L with 4 turbos and 4 extra cylinders what the result would be??
@gaaloulmed4753
@gaaloulmed4753 4 жыл бұрын
@chris beerad no need for a twin turbo with just a good remap you can get from this big engine a number close from 300 hp on stock internals without risk. Because is a "Real" 4wd truck engine not an enhanced hatchback diesel engine.
@PrintShell8765
@PrintShell8765 4 жыл бұрын
Very real world testing guys. LOVE IT! Please keep doing more :)
@bertofly9050
@bertofly9050 4 жыл бұрын
After many kilometers of towing that little 2.0 twin turbo will blow up and the 3.2 will come passed it
@gavinwolfe3238
@gavinwolfe3238 4 жыл бұрын
After how many KM will that little 3.2L blow up and the 4.5L LandCruiser come past it, or the 6L diesel Chev Silverado etc etc.... That is an argument that could go on and on but the 2L seems to be pretty well sorted so far, it has been out for quite a while now since it has been in other Ford models well before it was in the Ranger.
@darrynrich6616
@darrynrich6616 4 жыл бұрын
How will it blow up? it produces more power, more torque at lower rev's it cruises at 100km/h unloaded at 1500rpm compared to 2000rpm in the 3.2... i suppose you still use a bag phone as well because the battery is bigger???
@mikewatt1376
@mikewatt1376 4 жыл бұрын
@@darrynrich6616 theses things work fine when theyre nice n new n perfect but when something goes astray or out of whack you see how dependent you are on each little cube to be doing its job
@ricardoperks396
@ricardoperks396 4 жыл бұрын
You think so? yet to be proven though. Its still quite a long stroke with smaller pistons and two turbos dont mean they are being ringed out and working hard. Quite opposite in fact. The 10 speed gearbox coupled up to the smaller motor with higher torque and kw is great. Toyotas twin turbo on the 4.5L v8 is a great example. No reliability issues and they must 5 years old now you think?
@AjG007
@AjG007 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparative test gents. Thank you. The result shows why Ford are most likely ditching the 3.2 litre 5-cilinder engine for the upcoming 3 litre V6. I would love to see this comparative test repeated with the new 3L V6 vs the 2L bi-turbo as I will be buying one in April 2022.
@TomPembertonFarmLife
@TomPembertonFarmLife 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, wouldn't have thought it would do that ( Dont want to say to much to spoil the results)
@raylantrevor54
@raylantrevor54 3 жыл бұрын
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@leonelcayden3934
@leonelcayden3934 3 жыл бұрын
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@raylantrevor54
@raylantrevor54 3 жыл бұрын
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@raylantrevor54
@raylantrevor54 3 жыл бұрын
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@leonelcayden3934
@leonelcayden3934 3 жыл бұрын
@Raylan Trevor you are welcome xD
@nev357
@nev357 4 жыл бұрын
Having owned both. The 2lt is by far the better ute. No comparison really.
@michaeldearaugo4552
@michaeldearaugo4552 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Bi Turbo and was worried I’d picked the wrong engine but to see the difference on a real experience tow, I’m glad I did. V6 was a 12-18 month wait so we bit the bullet and bought the 2.0.
@rossprivate5456
@rossprivate5456 4 жыл бұрын
now give us a 5 year test , i'm not an enemy of the 2.0 ltr but i doubt that longevity is something that rates high for car manufacturers ...they want you to buy new cars not drive old cars
@deryckd1982
@deryckd1982 4 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@kingbryantan5922
@kingbryantan5922 4 жыл бұрын
Can reach 5m km
@ricardoperks396
@ricardoperks396 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah true but Ford are backing the new one. I am firm believer in liter capacity means low down torque I own trucks. But the numbers are the numbers and the 2.0L wins on torque and HP and then add the close ratio tranny . I got extended factory warranty to 8 years because I was worried about a new donk, 10 speed transmision and twin turbos. Cost me 2.2k extra but that gives me 8 years and yes I got the pds to make sure the diff turbos gearbox and motor was included. I think ford did a pretty good job to transition and still offer the bullet proof tried and tested 3.2L 6 speed. They are both good good rigs. Im waiting for the 5 year test too mate
@rossprivate5456
@rossprivate5456 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoperks396 good honest reply, if Ford put a good warranty period on the vehicle could be the deal sealer. Whether it wins or loses and is not my problem...
@trevorshields7347
@trevorshields7347 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The proof is always in the eating. Everything is good when new, but add time to the equation and things can be totally different
@johnnguyen2484
@johnnguyen2484 4 жыл бұрын
3.2 is better than 2.0 because of reliability. 2.0 biturbo has a big problems of leaking oil at turbo parts. This is really bad. This problem happened about 90% of biturbo 2.0 engines (ranger and everest) in Vietnam and Thailand. Some vehicles got this problem at less than 10k km.
@randyalmazar826
@randyalmazar826 4 жыл бұрын
your right. i have a 2019 2.0 single turbo and it has a leak on the hose of the turbo on less than 30k on the clock.
@fishaddiction
@fishaddiction 3 ай бұрын
Problem was fixed by end 2020.
@wdstoltz4410
@wdstoltz4410 4 жыл бұрын
It is the gearbox that makes the difference... mate the 10speed to a 3.2 and you will have a beast of a union...
@hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
@hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Not to mention reprogramming ECU.
@janbrand931
@janbrand931 3 жыл бұрын
You have unfortunatly forgot to measure refs , the 2l must by logic use much higher revolutions to achieve the same results than the 3.2, and therefore will wear much faster and won't hold as long as the 3.2. Thank you. Jan
@y4nnickschmitt
@y4nnickschmitt 3 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 is getting old. I know loosing a cylinder and some displacement is not cool, but the 3.2 has got to go. Its loud, looses all its power up top and also is quite inefficient. I´ve tested the 3.2 against our stock 2.2 and the 2.2 comes out on top. And thats testing it with a proper 3,5t trailer. I was quite shocked to see that result and assume that its due to the new emission regulations the 3.2 only barely reaches. Mind you that was testing a 2012 2.2 against a 2016 3.2. Either way I was disappointed.
@Kyxmyx
@Kyxmyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@y4nnickschmitt You had a different experience. On my part 2.2 is no where near 3.2 when it comes to towing and hauling and loads. Especially on the road. Torque is key
@y4nnickschmitt
@y4nnickschmitt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kyxmyx I assume the earlier 3.2s where better than what I had for testing. Either way the 3.2 is not a performer. The 3.0 5 cylinder from before was a different story though.
@deanwylie9893
@deanwylie9893 4 жыл бұрын
The guy at the servo would have been the most confused person on the planet that day.
@RegHolden
@RegHolden Жыл бұрын
I've had Rangers will all engines (except new 3LV6). I can say the 2.2 was the worst with massive turbo lag. Entering a round-about was terrifying, power loss was horrible. The Bi Turbo wasn't much better, back off the throttle at low speed and it's hesitation can be scary. The 3.2 is the best - power instantly when you need it.
@lickwicked7294
@lickwicked7294 4 жыл бұрын
That 2.0 litre was already reached its maximum setting performance while the 3.2 litre only show maybe about 50-60 percent performance from factory setting.
@andre899
@andre899 3 жыл бұрын
yes.... the realiability of the 3.2, especially in this conditions, will be much better than the 2.0
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 Жыл бұрын
@@andre899 The main issue with the 2.0 has been failed injectors on early ones and failed wet belts. Both addressed in production. The earlier 2.2 and 3.2 also had the injector issues causing pistons to melt if they failed, plus the failed oil pumps which caused the engines to seize with little warning. I replaced the oil pump in my 2.2 Ranger at 80,000 miles [130,000kms] just in case and I’m keeping it while adding a new model T6.2 2.0 bi-turbo to the fleet in July 2023.
@Shilo-fc3xm
@Shilo-fc3xm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, guys. Liked and subbed. Im in the market next month but have spent the past three months researching and had settled on the 3.2, my [old school] thoughts being engine capacity and importantly that to my understanding a larger engine would not need to work as hard to get there which would equate to long term reliability. One month out from my purchase you have completely changed my mind and as of now, I'm going 2ltr and the new tech. However: Before I write it in stone would you or any other people following along with mechanical experience comment on that long term reliability in terms of my (seemingly faulty) logic that a larger capacity engine will work less hard and therefore wear better over time? Thanks so much. I had been looking for this information for ages.
@hentyellis779
@hentyellis779 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had two 3.2 Ranger wildtracks,loved them.Just ordered a new Ranger Thunder 2.0 bi turbo will see how it compares.Not so sure on how long the 2.0 bi turbo will last,will only keep it while under warranty.
@silkyfox7603
@silkyfox7603 3 жыл бұрын
How’s it going?
@Ted...youtubee
@Ted...youtubee 2 жыл бұрын
Any update? Please
@krecha1
@krecha1 4 жыл бұрын
The ZD30 was revised sometime after 2004 (thereabouts) to address the Grenade issues. It was improved further with the introduction of the Common Rail system.There are increasing reports of these engines doing over 500K without any problems. I believe there are some that are over 600k. These vehicles have apparently been looked after like all diesels should be (including installation of engine safety mods and professional - mild to moderate performance enhancements). This engine is of course no where near as highly strung as the 2L mentioned here but I guess only time will let us know the outcome.
@bryanmania888
@bryanmania888 4 жыл бұрын
Watching from the Philippines! ^_^ great content very relaxing to watch. May i request you do a side by side test again this time the Mitsubishi Triton. Specifically the previous gen (4D56 engine 2.5 liters) versus the latest model facelift (4N15 engine 2.4 liters). Should be also an exciting comparison in power, fuel consumption and general car feel. Thank you very much! Take care guys. Keep safe!
@Lcr34
@Lcr34 4 жыл бұрын
Mates tuned 2.4 seems to pulls harder than the 2.5 he used to have.
@Grahamrjohnson
@Grahamrjohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Well done comparison guys.... prob the best I have seen. Shame you cant buy the 10 speed mated to the 3.2.... Only outstanding question is which will last longer ?? A highly stressed 2 litre or a lazy 3.2
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
Look back in history for reliability of older design large displacement or lower power engines in the same vehicle type and you will find increasing levels of reliability and longevity with less routine maintenance and overhauls even as engines get more and more power per unit of swept volume. Better economy too. It makes me think that engine designers of the 20th century must have been taking the customer for a ride.
@alexwolf8019
@alexwolf8019 4 жыл бұрын
I have Bi turbo Everest and hope its reliable. It performs better than the 3.2l Everest I have. Personally, I wish Ford would have made the 3.2ltr a Bi turbo with a 10 speed. Im not sure what is now and days, but Ford loves taking Small displacement with big power. The US rangers are nicely powered with the 2.3ltr gas engines. Again, the 2.7 v6 seems more appropriate to me.
@Jeffnz020
@Jeffnz020 4 жыл бұрын
Na what they need to do is put the 3l v6 diesel out of the f150 in them. Then you got a the best by far.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jeffnz020 You do know that the V6 diesel has been used in various Land and Range Rover models for the last ten years or so? And that they have a nasty habit of turning crank bearings and seizing up?
@Kyxmyx
@Kyxmyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@hedydd2 Well, That didn't stop Ford from putting the 3.0 V6 engine on the new Ranger
@grantwells6189
@grantwells6189 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. That is the exact test I was looking for as I will be looking to by a Ranger in the next 12 months. Must admit I was only considering the 3.2 as I just thought it would be better for towing.
@WCEsuck
@WCEsuck 4 жыл бұрын
By or buy?
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
@@WCEsuck okay champion
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
if you were smart and want even more power, hold on for the 2021 ranger which will have a V6, plenty more power and torque.
@ricardoperks396
@ricardoperks396 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. was suprised at the results. I like how they tested going up hills which really is the sealer for me
@raymann4027
@raymann4027 4 жыл бұрын
I tow in S mode in my 3.2 litre Ranger. In your test, you were in D mode in the 3.2 litre compared to the 2 litre in S mode for the same hill climb. This can make a difference to the pulling power of the Ranger
@ricardoperks396
@ricardoperks396 4 жыл бұрын
Na it was both in d mode which means drive or S that means second?. seriously I was impressed with their test.
@dale8535
@dale8535 4 жыл бұрын
ricardo perks s is sports mode it revs gears out more and has better throttle response. Big difference between them 👍
@jamesrichardson645
@jamesrichardson645 3 жыл бұрын
@@dale8535 the manual also says to tow in Sport.
@Jonobueno
@Jonobueno 6 ай бұрын
Sport mode keeps the gearbox cooler too they say,, unless you prefer a hot tranny...
@Billydevito
@Billydevito 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ! Ford Australian has ditched the 3.2. Of course they will say the 2.0 is better. IMO I’d rather the 3.2 with some ‘mods’. I know in the long run it’s a longer lived engine because it’s not as stressed. “THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT !!”
@darbyharrison3876
@darbyharrison3876 3 жыл бұрын
They aren’t scrapping it, people who don’t tow just need a Ute will take the 2.0 for every day driving, that’s why it’s used in the Everest. Ford said that since the sales of the 3.2 is higher then the 2.0 Ute they will not discontinue the 3.2
@blairirvin
@blairirvin 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I wonder how each engines health would be after 200,000km of towing.
@Ben-hi5lr
@Ben-hi5lr 4 жыл бұрын
B. Irvin doubt they would make it that far
@johnciarla5646
@johnciarla5646 4 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 would outlast the 2L by a mile. The EGTs in the 2L would be REALLY HIGH resulting in cracked pistons and/or melted pistons over a long period. Im not saying that’s what’s going to happen, but for a grey nomad pulling a trailer like that almost everyday, my choice would be the 3.2. For occasional towing and weekends away I’d go with the 2L.
@mungbean84
@mungbean84 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnciarla5646 what evidence do you have for any of your assertions?
@raphael3873
@raphael3873 4 жыл бұрын
mungbean84 3.2 is just better in every way. And everyone knows that.
@MeanguyElghxygh
@MeanguyElghxygh 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphael3873 "everyone knows that" is not exactly providing any evidence whatsoever. Anyone can easily claim anything and insist it's true despite having no evidence to back up their claim
@sizwemasenya5747
@sizwemasenya5747 4 жыл бұрын
The winner is the gearbox! The 2.0l has TEN gears! That's a serious advantage!
@clintonfouche6379
@clintonfouche6379 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!! I rate couple that 10speed to the 3.2.. Think it would be really good.. the 2L wont work with the speed at all!!
@timothyfoster5659
@timothyfoster5659 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit 3 seconds amazing!
@timothyfoster5659
@timothyfoster5659 4 жыл бұрын
Think what you could do with that time
@Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic
@Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic 4 жыл бұрын
Calling an auto a gearbox cracks me up 😆😆😆
@vevohoeyo
@vevohoeyo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nik_The_Heavy_Vehicle_Mechanic It is actually a gearbox weather its auto or manual. It's a box with gears in it.
@estebanamador7601
@estebanamador7601 4 жыл бұрын
Great technology until it fails. I'm going to stay with my good old 2003 Ford Super Dutys, close fuel consumption and easier and cheaper to fix. I have a 2003 Ford F350 powerstroke 6.0 diesel with a 5 speed auto and I can tell you that fuel consumption towing is similar (empty city driving not), so I prefer the old 325hp and 759 NM 6.0 v8 engine. I have a F250 with a 5.4 petrol and 4 speed transmission, not the same torque of the diesel, but with the same fuel consumption and really easy and cheap to repair and fix, and with LPG it gets great running costs. Greetings from Costa Rica. (Edit: oh, and my small workhorse Suzuki as my daily personal car)
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
As you were getting the 2003 models there were others probably saying that they'd stick with their nice simple 1990 models for reliability, simplicity and ease of repair. LOL
@kentstructures4388
@kentstructures4388 3 жыл бұрын
Uphill lclimb @4:45 the 3.2 is at D mode or normal driving setting;. @ 12:29 the 2.0 biturbo is at S mode or Sports Mode.. Unfair comparison..
@GTFORDMAN
@GTFORDMAN 3 жыл бұрын
sorry still not convinced because tiny engines in large cars have historically always been a BAD idea!
@gelirkentekgel601
@gelirkentekgel601 2 жыл бұрын
İts 2022 forget about history
@Karakaboardriders
@Karakaboardriders Жыл бұрын
Agreed they said the 2.0l was quieter but on the video the noise was way worse. The thing is the 3.2 is detuned and the 2.0l is turned up to get the power out of a smaller engine. They have v6 out now so that shows the faith they had in the 2.0L. Personally I prefer the sound of the 3.2 L and i own two of them local dealer trying to get me to change up but I don’t want a shitty 2.0L engine that sound is awful. My 1.3L jimmy sounds like that.
@vincentmothapa2421
@vincentmothapa2421 Жыл бұрын
​@@Karakaboardriders they still have the 2.0. So they still trust it
@Karakaboardriders
@Karakaboardriders Жыл бұрын
@@vincentmothapa2421 yeah 👍 I have heard a few issues with that engine (2.0L). But I have to eat my words cos I just brought a third ranger and it's binturbo wildtrak2.0L 🤣😣. I still prefer the sound and the feel of my old px1 ranger with the 3.2 L. But the 2.0 L is pretty quiet and quick. Throttle is laggy so I took the throttle controller out of my Px1. Its so much more responsive now. My PX1 had a non standard pipe on it and sounded really good the 2.0L isn't as nice in that department.
@vincentmothapa2421
@vincentmothapa2421 Жыл бұрын
@@Karakaboardriders I don't have much experience with either 😅 so I'll take your word for it
@nev57
@nev57 4 жыл бұрын
“A certain number of Ranger and Everest vehicles equipped with the 2.0L Bi-Turbo engine and 10-speed transmission may experience the failure of transmission fluid pump gears, which can cause the loss of hydraulic fluid pressure in the transmission and result in a transmission malfunction and a loss of drive,” says Ford ...Jun 4, 2020
@Peter_T123
@Peter_T123 4 жыл бұрын
Go the Bi Turbo love mine👏
@anitatoekoen6915
@anitatoekoen6915 4 жыл бұрын
I just LOVE Ford Ranger pickups!! REALLY COOL to own one
@mthunzidube1423
@mthunzidube1423 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, l think l will buy the 3.2 stll, in the padt the 2 litre versions received bad reviews especially regarding reliability
@dangerm3496
@dangerm3496 4 жыл бұрын
10 speed box vs 6 speed a lot to be said about gearing.
@m-0769
@m-0769 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 10 speed. It’s terrible! Sluggish to go in gear & clunky
@cameronembrey2389
@cameronembrey2389 3 жыл бұрын
2.0 needs 10 cogs lol
@melvincaramba2942
@melvincaramba2942 3 жыл бұрын
I will Definitely BUY the BI-TURBO Engine for my Granddad and Grandma for touring throughout Land Down Under as a Christmas Gift and for their Golden Wedding too as well. Shalom
@noligarcia5200
@noligarcia5200 Жыл бұрын
👌🏻👍INTERESTING🙏 on how the 2.0 w/Bi-turbo got more power in real world test. ☝️ I do hope you can complete that Review in terms of revs at every speeds bcz it’s a Mind buggling for us buyers to see why the bigger 5cyl has the same fuel consumption than the Smaller one. 🧠 Did it mean that the 2.0 is working more at High revs to get that power that The 3.2 does? ☝️ i also want to know the comarison ON what is the lowest RPM they acheived AT 80kph, 100kph & 120kph
@cyrilmatthew2995
@cyrilmatthew2995 4 жыл бұрын
its just the trans, if the 3.2 had the 10spd .... i wish
@trevorspeedy6333
@trevorspeedy6333 4 жыл бұрын
Good video but there is no comparison. 2 litre bi turbo produce negligible better power, it’s the gearbox that makes the difference not the engine. 2 litre works harder and gotta rev higher plus and extra turbo to replace when blown. No way I’d pick the 2 litre before the 3.2. How often do you need that extra performance, we got the 3.2 with bull bar, winch, canopy and tow a 5.5 mt boat, it tows just perfect, yes we could use the extra gears the 2 lt has but for the few times it’s warranted I would rather have the longevity from the 3.2. 3.2 hands down
@gregreed402
@gregreed402 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor Speedy your right 3.2 is awesome
@petermahoney636
@petermahoney636 3 жыл бұрын
And I'd just add my 2.5 MN triton after 426k kms the engine running like I got it at 120k kms just so still the same turbo at 426k kms the engine still perfect. Beat that Ford RANGER?
@_Alfa.Bravo_
@_Alfa.Bravo_ 3 жыл бұрын
TOYOTA is premium with premium price level ... of corse no comparison
@seanfenwick
@seanfenwick 4 жыл бұрын
Nice test guys! I just bought a 3.2 BT50..🤭🤦🏼‍♂️. But I hear the Triton will give them both a hiding. I went for the 3.2 because I intend to chip it to 175kw /550nm soon. I think the gearbox makes the biggest difference. The Pajero Sport and Triton have the same motor but different gearboxes and that makes the Pajero Sport far more “pokey”.
@stephensmith2744
@stephensmith2744 4 жыл бұрын
Did a remap on mine 174 kw and 564 nm at the flywheel pulls like a train.
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 4 жыл бұрын
My Pajero Sport is great standard and because l scored a 7 year warranty chipping won't happen. I did install an IDRIVE though and it is amazing. Towing my 6.6 metre road caravan it is almost forgotten when accelerating compared to no IDRIVE. Have you guys ever done a compare with this $300 plug and play which my dealer sold me?
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that they and the Toyota and Isuzu all used the same five speed Isin Warner transmission or a six speed in very latest models.
@azah_ygsukaislam
@azah_ygsukaislam 2 жыл бұрын
the 2.0 engine breaks down quickly because the engine is small but the load is heavy. I prefer to use 3.2 especially when climbing hills because the power is quite satisfactory
@tapiwanyazika2441
@tapiwanyazika2441 4 жыл бұрын
Ford recommends towing in sport mode in the 3.2,I wonder if these guys were in sport mode at all.Seems like they were in normal drive mode to me.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
These trucks, both of them, automatically change their engine/transmission change mapping to 'trailer mode' when they detect a trailer light socket attached. The six speed has a massive gap between second and third ratio and is reluctant to change up and down in hilly areas while the 10 speed has no such gap and is responsive in all conditions. The difference is like comparing chalk to cheese.
@panos8444
@panos8444 4 жыл бұрын
Tick ford do a factory back power upgrade to the 3.2L really wakes it up👍
@jobocean4722
@jobocean4722 4 жыл бұрын
The 2.0 Litre Bi-Turbo is shifted in Sports mode while the 3.2 Litre Turbo is only in Drive mode. There are a lot of power difference when the vehicle is in Sports and Drive mode
@agilelad
@agilelad 4 жыл бұрын
Very true
@Pik000
@Pik000 4 жыл бұрын
No difference in power, only how long it holds in a specific gear. When your foot is to the floor it won't make a difference.
@jobocean4722
@jobocean4722 4 жыл бұрын
But the response of the vehicle depends on the mode you select even if you floor the accelerator, the transmission will not shift to the lowest possible gear if you’re in drive mode and using sports mode enables the car to deliver its full power unlike in drive mode, the car usually prevent the car from using its full power to maintain the economical level. Flooring the your car in sports mode is different from flooring in drive mode.
@1989cranston
@1989cranston 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pik000 there definitely is difference in power. in sports shift it locks the torque converter in most situations where it would be unlocked in normal drive mode and losing sooooo much power to the torque converter fluid coupling. This is one of the main reasons for the sports shift mode. it not only holds the gear but locks the converter.
@keithklijnsma7678
@keithklijnsma7678 4 жыл бұрын
LOL put a 10 speed auto behind a 3.2 you would get the same results in the hill climb. Nothing to do with power output its all about gearbox ratios.
@theotherphil
@theotherphil 4 жыл бұрын
Good test! I noticed however that you had the 3.2 auto box in “D” for the test. The owner manual suggests to use Sports mode whilst towing. This locks out the overdrive gears and raises the shift point to allow less speed drop between changes. It also provides better engine braking, improves throttle performance and locks the torque converter. It’d be interesting to see what impact that has on the performance aspect of the test, as well as fuel economy.
@MountainTrailRV
@MountainTrailRV 4 жыл бұрын
We actually did the route twice, to make sure it was accurate. One route was the actual test, then we went back and shot the whole thing for b roll! That is 4 trips in total. The editor used the wrong shot as B Roll, but they were both in Sport Mode the whole time in the test. KB
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 4 жыл бұрын
@@MountainTrailRV It really doesn't matter anyway because there is a vast difference between the six speed, its ratios and gearchange characteristics compared to the vastly superior ten speed. It's like a chalk and cheese comparison.
@photografiq_presents
@photografiq_presents 2 жыл бұрын
@@hedydd2 I wonder if you understand the point of comparisons.
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 2 жыл бұрын
It’s to get results @numbnuts. They got a very clear winner. Besides which, both vehicles automatically set a tow mode when trailer lights are attached which replicates the sporty mode very closely. Apart from which the Ford six speed auto is one of the least responsive that I’ve driven over the last 38 years. It doesn’t even kick down when the driver wants it to and the engine straining at maximum torque. Neither does it downchange for engine braking down hills in any mode you like.
@TheRdwyer
@TheRdwyer Жыл бұрын
So for you Ford owners out there. Is the 10spd issues fixed. I'm leaning on the Ford sport with the 6spd with single turbo over the biturbo and 10spd. Would appreciate inputs.
@kevinoh4432
@kevinoh4432 4 жыл бұрын
Let 's stop being sour as 3.2 owners. We'll just see who laughs in 5 years or so time aye?
@BubblesTheCat1
@BubblesTheCat1 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm a diesel mechanic, and can tell you now that small engine is being strained way too hard. Watch them blow up when they're a few years old, and being ubused.
@swankwash4159
@swankwash4159 3 жыл бұрын
No one will be laughing because the Ranger is massively unreliable
@alinherts5414
@alinherts5414 4 жыл бұрын
In the hill climb you have the 3.2 in D and the 2.0 in S.
@MichaelD1008
@MichaelD1008 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that too, so you can't count on the comparison!
@teretz571
@teretz571 3 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 litre, which i own is a work horse and i love it, that 2 litre twin turbo will die if it is worked hard, ok its faster than the 3.2, but who is in a hurry anyway, as for fuel consumption if you cant afford to run a 3.2, you wont be able to rebuild a 2 litre twin turbo when it dies
@dale8535
@dale8535 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 3.2 and there’s no doubt there a bit sluggish and noisy compared to the 2.0 but they love a tune or remap and for $1200-1500 for one it’s well worth it. Gearbox is the key although they can outsmart themselves finding the right gear when pulling a van. Both good choices there’s horse for courses. Still better than a gutless HILUX
@douglasyong6939
@douglasyong6939 4 жыл бұрын
Sold my Wildtrak 3.2 after 5 good years of ownership, and now loving my Wildtrak 2.0 Biturbo with a tad more power and less NVH...
@craigdargie6929
@craigdargie6929 3 жыл бұрын
What they didn't tell you is that the 10 speed auto needs to be put into sport mode when towing. It has a good chance of failing if you don't. This also frees up the torque converter to allow it to rev easier. If you want a ranger that really tows great, get a 3.2, do a turbo and intercooler upgrade and have it remapped. Some companies offer driveline warranty with the tune. I've got 170000kms on mine and love it. Puts out more power and torque than a 200 series. Get mid 9 litres per 100kms around town and low 8s country runs. Towing our 19 foot full off road van it uses 12.6 litres per 100kms, up to mid 13s if pushing into a strong head wind. And I'm running 33 inch mud tyres. By, by, bi.
@tranlee5622
@tranlee5622 2 жыл бұрын
Any tuning done for your ute inorder to get 9l per 100 on 33s?
@gijirajin4421
@gijirajin4421 4 жыл бұрын
I live my life with 2.2 xl. Worth of buying. Good work horse too
@0BuLLeT01
@0BuLLeT01 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought one. Waiting for delivery. Very excited!
@jarrodpascoe8130
@jarrodpascoe8130 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. That is all the shit people want to know who tow something . Good job. Liked and subscribed 👍
@joepsaila2837
@joepsaila2837 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys I’m thinking of buying a ford ranger in the next few months cheers
@ronniehill6142
@ronniehill6142 3 жыл бұрын
I have always owned Fords however I love my 2003 Toyota Tacoma better than any American Truck I have ever driven
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