don't get a seven string guitar: here's why...

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Xander Raymond Charles

Xander Raymond Charles

Күн бұрын

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@Gary-zq3pz
@Gary-zq3pz Жыл бұрын
Once you get a 7 string, you'll have so much fun with it you'll want to get an 8 string.
@frankhayes5577
@frankhayes5577 2 ай бұрын
That is exactly what my son said at about 6 months into playing his 7!
@bravan49
@bravan49 26 күн бұрын
Bought a Mark Holcomb PRS SE and love it. I play clean out of a Fender Princeton. Expands your expression.
@Hayden_fletch
@Hayden_fletch 21 күн бұрын
thats exactly why i sold it for a 8 string man
@humthappa7159
@humthappa7159 Жыл бұрын
Video title: don’t buy a 7 string guitar Me: ok 8 string it is
@ytudj
@ytudj 3 ай бұрын
i went a step ahead and got a 9 string
@CojacRBLX
@CojacRBLX 2 ай бұрын
@@ytudj or just buy two! like the MAB double
@jessewest2109
@jessewest2109 2 ай бұрын
8 string all day
@steveedmondson9651
@steveedmondson9651 Ай бұрын
Gonna be my next purchase just to play 115 in its entirety 😂
@CojacRBLX
@CojacRBLX Ай бұрын
@@steveedmondson9651😂
@ericsmith6633
@ericsmith6633 Жыл бұрын
Once I got a 7, I actually became a better player cause it opened the door for so much more! I recommend a 7 for guys that want to open their door for song writing. I got it and never put it down! I love 7s!!! And I mean the chords I came up with even in clean, bar chords with a 7 is just killer!! Things you can’t do with a 6. So i recommend 7s to people who want to expand. If your tired of the same ol same ol from a 6, get a 7!! So many more options!!! Expand man!!
@8KilgoreTrout4
@8KilgoreTrout4 Жыл бұрын
That's fucking rad dude. I had kind of an opposite effect but only when wielding the 7 and playing 6'er songs. I had to admit to myself after 25 years of playing that ya I have kind of smaller hands, so that could also have been a factor on my old 7 neck. :)
@ryzencorp8182
@ryzencorp8182 Жыл бұрын
Same, so much fun, it helps you get your muting technique down too
@ericsmith6633
@ericsmith6633 Жыл бұрын
@@ryzencorp8182 agreed! I mean once I got mine I couldn’t put it down.
@8KilgoreTrout4
@8KilgoreTrout4 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRobot69 same
@taturtotmorrison2807
@taturtotmorrison2807 Жыл бұрын
Dream guitar is a 7 string ibanez gio. No idea why but it just looks so good. Just bought one yesterday and it sounds pretty damn good compared to my other shiz
@nissenilsson9158
@nissenilsson9158 Жыл бұрын
A great feature of a 7 string is that you can comfortably switch between E and B standard without having to get lower gauge strings. You can just change the g string to an F# and then have B standard with a high E.
@chadking464
@chadking464 Жыл бұрын
true
@Owlun
@Owlun Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Why would you need an F# string in B standard on a 7 string.
@nissenilsson9158
@nissenilsson9158 Жыл бұрын
@@Owlun B standard tuning is BEADF#B. 7 strings are tuned to BEADGBE. Basically you can play songs that were originally recorded on a B standard guitar if you tune the G to F#.
@Owlun
@Owlun Жыл бұрын
@@nissenilsson9158 Lol I was so confused. I thought you were saying you needed that F# on a 7 string in B standard. I gotchu now. Thanks.
@adamgh0
@adamgh0 Жыл бұрын
@@nissenilsson9158 B standard is this bro... kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5atk5ahgbCohdk
@user-jl2wd1it8h
@user-jl2wd1it8h 6 ай бұрын
My name is Mubatu and we have no money for real guitar here in Africa. We made our own 14 string guitar out of thrown away rubbish. It's tune so low it causes groin injury
@josephjulianmionie4744
@josephjulianmionie4744 3 ай бұрын
Muhahah
@Wickedfix76
@Wickedfix76 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah mubatu !!
@robertm.4193
@robertm.4193 Ай бұрын
You should call your band Sonic Castration.
@loneponderer495
@loneponderer495 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for just shy of 30 years and did 90% on six strings with E standard tuning. I bought a 7 string after hearing how it feels like a whole different instrument. I had zero issues adapting to it. It felt as natural as playing a 6 string to me. I think a lot of people struggle because they are overthinking it. Music is the art of sound. As such, the ONLY rule is does it sound good, or at least does it help convay what you're trying to say. Any other rule is nonsense. I love science, and with most things, I'm obsessed with knowing the facts and being able to back up my opinions with proof. Art is the one place such obsession is not only unessisary it's arguably harmful.
@MercilessGuitar151
@MercilessGuitar151 Жыл бұрын
Your story is pretty similar to mine. Now I have a 8 string on the way. My mind is going wild with the possibilities and exrra power chords. :)
@arunkarthikma3121
@arunkarthikma3121 6 ай бұрын
Dudeee, I mostly play funk, and I tried a Schecter c7 today at guitar center. It's the most comfortable neck I've ever felt!! People are forgetting how much neck shape and design plays a role in your comfort
@coryjackson8409
@coryjackson8409 Жыл бұрын
When someone sees me playing a 7 and the say that they wouldn’t know where to start on it, it makes me think they don’t know anything about playing guitar in the first place. It’s chords, it’s scales, it’s all the same. You’re absolutely right. Memorize the fretboard in a standard tuning first. Don’t drop tune, don’t take shortcuts. Learn your intervals before screwing up your tuning. Good video man. Peace
@endjentneeringclub
@endjentneeringclub 10 ай бұрын
My dad in a nutshell. Don't get me wrong, he's brilliant at what he does. Problem is that he can't comprehend anything that isn't strumming the standard shape chords on E standard. Put it in drop D to use power chords on that one song? "No. I can't do bar chords on this, it's stupid and useless." Take one finger off that major chord you always use to use an alternative version to give the song life? "No. It doesn't make sense, it's no longer (insert major chord here), it's stupid and useless. If I play my baritone with him, (same chord shapes but I can convert it so we are playing the same notes). (Attempts to copy my chord shapes and not what the music book says the notes are) "No. Your guitar sounds wrong, it's stupid and pointless." Will not introduce him to the concept of extra strings. That may be too much (even though I play it in baritone tuning with an extra high e)
@daveboyesguitar
@daveboyesguitar 8 ай бұрын
This. Really good outlook. Not discouraging people experimenting or exploring but understanding the value of memorising the fretboard or getting your intervals right before widening things. Appreciate this man
@TheRealxVincent
@TheRealxVincent 4 ай бұрын
I learned the fretboard in drop D, because that's what I like to play in. I know my intervals, they're just slightly different. And I can translate that to standard by just moving everything on the low E down 2 frets. There really isn't a right way to do it.
@shredenvain7
@shredenvain7 Жыл бұрын
A 7 string guitar can be the best of both worlds if you can get used to the adjustment. It allows you to tune low as well keep the same scale patterns you are used to on a 6 string guitar.
@redneck472
@redneck472 Жыл бұрын
Ok ok... I won't get a 7 string. I'll get an 8 string instead!!!
@calebevans3690
@calebevans3690 Жыл бұрын
I only own a 7 string, playing a 6 string feels weird to me at this point. I love the harmonic capabilities of just one extra string. I even use it clean AT CHURCH and it's awesome
@sirnatanielson
@sirnatanielson Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at a 7 string headless and considered what it would be like to play at my church also lol
@Ajz092
@Ajz092 Жыл бұрын
When I started getting into super heavy music like 15 years ago, I did a lot of research and decided I was going to get an 8 string. Upon finding one and testing it out though, I actually hated it. Going from a 6 to 8 string is like switching to an entirely new instrument. So, I tried out a 7 string. INSTANTLY fell in love with it. So much so, that I will NEVER buy a 6 string again. Ever. The 7 was actually very comfortable and easy to pick up for me.
@arunkarthikma3121
@arunkarthikma3121 6 ай бұрын
I'm buying a Schecter 7 string soon, because of how comfortable the neck is. Even though I don't usually play styles that really require a 7th string at all, the wide and flat profile of this neck is just liquid comfortable
@ChaosTheDoomsayer
@ChaosTheDoomsayer 7 күн бұрын
@@arunkarthikma3121did you ever buy one ? I got a shxecter omen elite 7 and recommend it
@arunkarthikma3121
@arunkarthikma3121 Күн бұрын
@@ChaosTheDoomsayer I got myself a Schecter c7 because it was on sale for Hella cheap, and I vibed with the neck and pickups of that model the most. It's also very plain looking, rather than metal, and I don't play much metal, so I preferred it. I might refinish it and put a pickguard on it later.
@blockerton1778
@blockerton1778 3 ай бұрын
I’m a shredder myself, love just blasting through notes challenging myself. Was planning on getting 7 to get into that kind of challenge I tend to throw myself into with guitar (also a particular sonic song that came out in recent year but the motivation is still the same), this vid definitely helped, really appreciate the insight!
@TheMajesticFreak
@TheMajesticFreak Жыл бұрын
Great timing with this video. I'm selling my 7-string today as I don't play it as much as I thought I would. Live and learn. Keep it metal, Ray! \m/
@travisspaulding2222
@travisspaulding2222 Жыл бұрын
Terrible timing because your market share just shrank, lol.
@travisspaulding2222
@travisspaulding2222 Жыл бұрын
A heavy riff is a heavy riff no matter what tuning. A low tuning doesn't make it heavier. It just makes it thicker sounding. That's it. Sometimes the muddiness of the lower tunings take away from the riff. Not always, but sometimes.
@clowncorpse7230
@clowncorpse7230 5 ай бұрын
I agree some E standard riffs are heavy
@ibanezrg7421
@ibanezrg7421 Ай бұрын
I appreciate this video. Very cool of you to put out! I've got 6s and a 7, and I gravitate towards my 6 in drop c 90% of the time. This would've saved me some dough. Keep doing you man.
@descendinguniverse
@descendinguniverse Жыл бұрын
It took me a long time to get used to 7 string but now it`s perfect for me. I like the wider neck grip and the fact that I have a completely standard guitar I had been leraning for years plus an additional string for lower stuff. And I`m not soloing 99% of time. Cons: same models of guitars are more expensive and there`s just way less of different models compared to 6 string. Finding Evertune 7 string with 25.5 scale is a hell of a task
@clowncorpse7230
@clowncorpse7230 5 ай бұрын
I find it hard sometimes to find packs of 7 strings they are not always stocked by retailers
@msi1985
@msi1985 Жыл бұрын
My reason for getting a seven string guitar was only to enable me to play songs that I love that were written on a seven string instrument.. One thing people should keep in mind is that even when dropping the tuning of your lowest string, you are really not getting that many extra notes. But sometimes, it is a requirement to have the range that comes with an extra guitar string. I still feel like some of the heaviest songs I have ever heard were written on a Six string!!
@eggpod4567
@eggpod4567 Жыл бұрын
Yup. On a six string. In standard tuning.
@ryanhedge3587
@ryanhedge3587 Жыл бұрын
Always love your vidoes Ray and I dont normally comment unless I really like a youtuber which you are one of my favorites either way I got a seven string back in april and it is rally fun the main reason I got it was beacuse all the baritones are out of my budget
@MaritimesRemi
@MaritimesRemi Жыл бұрын
I got a 7 strings for the first time this year. I don’t really play heavy metal so I don’t use it to chug. I keep it in standard tuning and use it to beef some songs where two 6 strings sound like it’s missing something.
@richszmal1653
@richszmal1653 Жыл бұрын
I started playing 7 strings because the neck being wider actually felt more comfortable for me to play versus a 6 string.
@stonerazor3395
@stonerazor3395 Жыл бұрын
If you're wondering about getting a 7 string but mostly so you can play lower notes, you can try experimenting with a pitch shifter plugin/pedal on a 6 string first
@GhostlanderX
@GhostlanderX 18 күн бұрын
Just got a PRS Holcomb as my first 7 string, LOVE IT! I got it to experiment on, and give a platform for songs I used to downtune my 6 string for. I can transpose a lot of songs, but not everything, some songs are still MUCH easier to play in their original tuning. Overall super happy though, I'm starting to grapple with the fact I may be a 7 string convert.
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing Жыл бұрын
I have a couple six strings, a seven and most recently an eight, and as a vocalist with whatever particular range I have, the thing I've really come to love about the lower tuning is that in the context of a full mix the guitar tone can take up a lot more space without getting in the way of my vocal. And especially as the kind of vocalist who likes to go from a whisper to a roar on a dime with the changes in volume that entails, I've definitely found that having lower rhythm guitar parts results in a lot less need for precision EQing and a much more natural sound for both the guitar and the vocal :)
@maraudermusic2714
@maraudermusic2714 Жыл бұрын
A JL-7 was loaned to me. Loved it. its 26.5. Did tune down half step like Jeff. Then I tried to learn Conquering Dystopia tracks. Standard tuning 5-1 with Drop A on 7. This was odd to me, yet I'm writing a song in this tuning now cause it just fell from the sky. Having standard tuned strings on a 26.5 was something I never though I would use, yet here I am. It is about the riff and what feels right. Many of us are not playing in a band so we don't have to have a rack of guitars on standby in various tuning. Anyway love your energy dude and you vids! Peace!
@thet740
@thet740 Жыл бұрын
I play drop G on one of my 7-string 26.5'' guitars. 100% agree that any lower and you want 27'' or longer. Below ''G'' is ''F#'' which is standard tuning for 8-string guitars, so look for a baritone 7-string or just get an 8-string. I also use down-tuned 6-string guitars. You DO need to be careful when purchasing a 6-string guitar with the intent of down-tuning to the range of a 7-string. A lot of the stock hardware on most 6's can't handle the gauges for those extended range tunings.
@zacharymicah
@zacharymicah 3 ай бұрын
So with my Ibanez RG 7 string I have it set up with Ernia Ball Skinny Top Heavy Bottom strings and keep it tuned to A standard (ADGCFAD). I also find that when I need it, I have 2 six string tunings in one guitar like with the A standard and when the F string is tuned to E (ADGCEAD) move all the six string chord shapes up one string.
@nheto666
@nheto666 Жыл бұрын
Not atting at you, but there is an early XX century brazillian genre called chorinho that is played mostly in 7 nylon strings acoustics. Lol
@davidtguitar
@davidtguitar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Love these kind on YT, just sensible arguments delivered :)
@myronmosley2167
@myronmosley2167 Жыл бұрын
I started on 6 strings, bought a few different ones over time, then bought an 8 string loved it and just got my first 7 string earlier this year. And absolutely, the amount of strings don’t make it “heavier” I have two albums out now that is primarily played on 8 strings but outside of a few obvious low chuggy breakdown type stuff, it sounds like I’m playing on a 7 string or a dropped tuned 6. And my heaviest song is on a 6 string in drop C#. I mostly use the F# on the 8 string guitar as an accent or more of an added layer of depth while playing chords, whereas a lot of 8 string players tend to live and die on that low 8th string. Which I find boring and unoriginal.
@TheBanana93
@TheBanana93 Жыл бұрын
Well that sucks for you because the sound of a low 8th or 7th string tickles me in ways I can't explain. Your comment is unoriginal and boring lol. Even if a songs just on one string but its sick idgaf lol. I am not saying the other strings should be neglected play some sick dissonant chord in-between chugging that low string or a tasty arpeggio run mmmm baby
@EnvisionedBlindness
@EnvisionedBlindness Жыл бұрын
I Just ordered a mahogany Strat body and a 27” (maple neck/rosewood FB) to build a custom HSH pickup configuration Strat, had all the emgs sitting around from other guitars so I just ordered a Strat pick guard and emg brand kill switch, and it’s ready to go after I stain it. Gonna be my first baritone 6. I have a 27” 7 string but I just don’t feel as comfortable on it as a 6. Love the channel man. Keep up the good work
@jamiebruvold6105
@jamiebruvold6105 14 күн бұрын
I traded a car for a Schecter Damien 7-guitar. At first I had a real tough time playing chords with that top extra string there. But the beautifully neutral sound of this guitar just grew on me. I use ableton, halion 7 and now midi guitar 3. The combination is amazing. The limitation with MG3 is that(as of yet) it doesn't register the 7th string!! Hope it gets implemented. Aside from this. Playing outside of MG3 it opens so many doors to musical ideas having a deep base string to drone in the background. I don't have a prefered genre, I just love the option of having bass in my musical ideas. Now I pick up my 6 string and it messes me up when playing chords. I think I'm trying to say that what you get used to will always be your preference. If it plays nicely.....be happy with what you got, but I wouldn't say no to having options for more musical ideas.
@dubldeez5784
@dubldeez5784 Жыл бұрын
Baritone is amazing. Your comment about playing lead vs rhythm is the key. If you aren't playing leads you don't need a 7 string or if you aren't playing really extended range chord inversions
@REDDRAGON666ful
@REDDRAGON666ful Жыл бұрын
I love to play six strings, but I have a couple of 7 strings for Fear Factory and Jeff Loomis style playing! I have a Schecter Omen Extreme 7 with Dino Cazares SD Blackouts and a Schecter Jeff Loomis signature with his signature SD Blackouts, both killer guitars!
@mrrnrob
@mrrnrob Жыл бұрын
I Have The Schecter Diamond Series Demon 7 Vintage White with Seymour Duncan Mick Thomson Blackouts
@REDDRAGON666ful
@REDDRAGON666ful Жыл бұрын
@@mrrnrob this one came with the Diamond series pickups, I had the Fishman Moderns in it first, but I really wasn’t feeling those! Love the Blackouts, Micks pickups are great, I had his signature Jackson guitar for a while!
@mrrnrob
@mrrnrob Жыл бұрын
@@REDDRAGON666ful Cool..The Jackson Guitar..We Now know Mick Switch to ESP From Jackson. A Month ago I Picked Up The 6 String ESP LTD PHOENIX BLACK METAL, BLACK SATIN Finish --Then Swap Out The Pups For Mick Thomson Fishmans Pups..
@thisguy2973
@thisguy2973 Жыл бұрын
While there are general reasons you’d need more scale length, but don’t be afraid to just try stuff. I took inspiration from Jason Richardson, so on my Jason Richardson 7, I’m tuned and intonated to drop G using 10-56. Jason takes it further using 11-58 with drop F#. This is because it also comes down to your feel and how you play. If you have a lighter touch, these things are doable, but extended scale is ultimately better if you want more tension.
@Namelessforever_
@Namelessforever_ Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the new album fella 😊🤘
@Rocktalk101
@Rocktalk101 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ray and as for me I have never been interested in playing or buying a 7 string guitar. I can get everything I need to get out of a guitar on a 6 string just have no need for a 7 string guitar.
@bolland83
@bolland83 Жыл бұрын
I got a 7 because I like to riff on E standard blues riffs, but I also like to chug out on drop A. I got it in a 27" scale because I have big hands. One trick I like to do sometimes is tune the guitar as if it were a baritone but with an extra high string, having played primarily 6 strings most of my life I find this a lot easier to wrap my head around as far as notes and scales.
@quinnquitars
@quinnquitars Жыл бұрын
I’ve never played a 27” scale length but I would imagine they take a minute to adjust to after playing a normal guitar, how has that been for u?
@KellerFkinRyan
@KellerFkinRyan Жыл бұрын
@@quinnquitars they really dont do much. I have a 30" 6 string (squier vi) a 27 inch 7 string, a 26.5 inch 7 string, a 25.5 inch 6 string, and a 24.75 inch 6 string. of course I have others but those guitars all share a scale length with one of the ones I listed. they all generally feel the same other than the 30", and I think its because it is in E standard, one octave lower. the rest are all in standard tuning. it of course would feel weird going from the 24.75 to the 27". but thats mainly because of the extra string. in my opinion you only notice the longer scale when you are trying to notice something. if you dont think about it its like its not even there.
@bolland83
@bolland83 Жыл бұрын
@@quinnquitars Unless you're doing complex chords that require a big stretch it's not much of an adjustment. It's about what you would expect the spacing to be if you added an extra fret on the nut end of the neck for a 25.5" scale guitar if that makes sense.
@quinnquitars
@quinnquitars Жыл бұрын
@@KellerFkinRyan oh wow ok ty.
@lauscho
@lauscho Жыл бұрын
The reason I wanted 7-string guitars was because a lot of my favourite bands played them, and I wanted to be able to play their material without having to drastically alter one of my guitars to do it. Then again, I'm more of a prog-metal guy than someone who goes for the heaviest thing out there. I like to have a low B while still being able to play those piercing high Es at the 24th fret. I never really thought of the 7-string as harder with regards to theory, and I'm with you on the idea of thinking of a 7-string as "a 6-string with an extra fun string!" and that made it much easier for me to rationalize it. I can play all my usual 6-string material on one, but then use that low B for when I need that extended range. I'll strongly disagree about the price point though. It's true that some models are much more expensive than their 6-string counterparts, but it's never been easier and more accessible to get into 7-strings when you consider the massive jumps of quality in cheap guitars over the last 10 years. I tried an Ibanez GIO 7-string recently, very inexpensive instrument that I easily could have afforded as a kid on my paper route job, and it was not terrible at all! A kid can drop not all that much money on a 7-string these days and get something that's not a pile of complete trash. But otherwise, I see where you're coming from. 6-strings are still a lot more versatile than people think, and there are a lot of times where I'd rather use a 6-string than a 7-string.
@onionheadguy7094
@onionheadguy7094 Жыл бұрын
Your right about the value, my js22 7 is really usable and I got it for 150 bucks.
@ChaoticJohari
@ChaoticJohari 4 ай бұрын
Being new to guitar and having picked up a 7 I was starting to worry I made the wrong choice off…until you played your upcoming clip \m/ that’s exactly why I got a 7 and feel secure in my purchase 😂
@1-eye-willy
@1-eye-willy Жыл бұрын
after playing 6 strings for nearly 30 years i picked up a 7 string as an impulse buy and i love it, i thought the extra b string would trip me up, but it was easier than i thought
@tim290280
@tim290280 Жыл бұрын
The first 7-string I owned - a Epi flying V in 24.75 scale - left me feeling lost on the fretboard and didn't really "serve a purpose". I sold it and moved on. But I recently bought a new 7-string. It has a longer 26.5 scale, is a more player-friendly design, and I'm coming to it as a more experienced player. I've really bonded with the extra string this time around thanks to the better design. No small part of that is how I actively invested some time in treating it as a "new instrument" to learn.
@ililiililliliill9498
@ililiililliliill9498 4 ай бұрын
I love my 7 string. It just opens more possibilities when compared to a 6 string yet you can still play it excactly like a 6 string when the low b isnt needed
@itaysevenfoldhamri
@itaysevenfoldhamri Жыл бұрын
Before even watching, I think it depends on a bunch of different factors - are you just looking for heavier chugs, exclusively? How much lead work do you do? Are you looking into ringing out extended chord voicings? Do you play live?
@jgbirds
@jgbirds Ай бұрын
Thumbs up immediately for eagles hat #gobirds
@peterbatten596
@peterbatten596 Жыл бұрын
I have a 9 string with a top A0. That doesn’t make it any heavier than classics from bands I grew up with like Pantera in E standard. It’s the riff and tone.
@PunKtuRed_Jazz
@PunKtuRed_Jazz Жыл бұрын
My first 7 string was bought purely to play korn songs, plain and simple. A standard and love it. But in saying that I had a Ibanez Prestige RG1127 and personally didnt like the neck and got rid of it and happy with my Jackson JS32-7 my Ibanez GRG7221. Ray brilliant video as always bro
@CardinalSpeed
@CardinalSpeed Ай бұрын
Played a 7 string for years because in my mind Low=Heavy but eventually got burnt out on low tunings. Now im back to 6 strings in E and D standard. Like a breath of fresh air
@Dysomniah
@Dysomniah 11 ай бұрын
My first guitar ever was a 26.5" 7 string, still love to play with it in Drop A/Drop G 🫶. The perfect compromise to play these lower tuning while keeping it comfortable 👍
@AskingAzazel
@AskingAzazel Жыл бұрын
I’ll leave my 2 cents on 7 strings since you already know that’s mainly what I gravitate towards. Of course we all love the fun string but I also like playing predominantly around the 10th/12th fret and higher generally speaking so I can play the octave notes (if I’m only using 1 string). I also enjoy huge string skipping riffs going from the lowest note to some of the highest on the board and some solo type stuff as well when necessary. Playing 7s and 8s definitely helped me on playing 6s too since you do have to go about playing the wider necks slightly differently and think a little bit more when using theory.
@ThunderousThrasher
@ThunderousThrasher 4 ай бұрын
The wider fretboard was best thing that my big hands needed.
@daniellowry660
@daniellowry660 Жыл бұрын
@6:00 im sure someone else has brought this up but pretty sure 7 strings started as jazz guitars. I know Benedetto still builds 7 string archtops
@davidharrisonproductions
@davidharrisonproductions Жыл бұрын
I think about extended range guitars like a piano/keyboard. Did I actually run out of notes to play to cover the music I’m working on? Or do I just need to shift the tuning and I have enough notes available? I enjoy 7 string guitars still. But after 3-4 years or mainly playing 7s I ended up going back to 6 strings. Cost of string changes and maintenance keeping everything playing and sounding great. 6 string just let’s me play more at the end of the day.
@EyeAmHell
@EyeAmHell Жыл бұрын
i've played a 6 string upside down (Strung properly) for most my life, i finally bought a real left handed guitar and it happened to be a 7 string and honestly i would rather play the upside down guitar than the 7 string.
@Kandieswing
@Kandieswing Жыл бұрын
You got a great channel Xander ! thank your for your informations , influence and impressions ! Greetings from Germany
@djentyboi6878
@djentyboi6878 Жыл бұрын
Well, I have a standard 6 string, a 28” baritone 6 string, 2 26.5” 7 strings and an 8 string. My favorites are by far the 7 strings. They open up to so much more
@yoloyo7019
@yoloyo7019 Жыл бұрын
Great video to make. The amount of extra work you gotta do to overcome the clunkiness of an extra string is worth it for so few people. I stuck with it but only because I got a dope evertune one, and that part I’m in love with. Prolly shoulda gotten a baritone but here we are lol
@bennyjuanillo9559
@bennyjuanillo9559 6 ай бұрын
I'm kind of stuck in between of buying a 7. Because i play in a band that plays a wide variety of music wherein we play a song that is in standard, THEN into a freaking drop C or drop C# or even lower and then back to standard again, So that's kind of the problem because mainly the strings would break, the setup or action would change making the guitar harder to play. So would a 7 string guitar could give me an opportunity to play different songs with different tunings with any hassle?
@thomasbaldiscola4671
@thomasbaldiscola4671 Жыл бұрын
I only play my 7 string now. I grew up playing bass, also a lefty! LMAO! I love how I tune to A standard and riff out! Got D standard with that extra low set of notes. I also don't like going lover than drop G on my 7 string because it can get "muddy" IMO but whatever you like! 🤘🤘
@thisjuantimeatbandcamp
@thisjuantimeatbandcamp 11 ай бұрын
Dude, Recently came upon your channel and I love your guitar talk so far. Thanks man! From a 7 string player 🤣
@FearABlankPlanet
@FearABlankPlanet Жыл бұрын
Got a 7 string kinda regretting it at first, second guessed getting a baritone 6string, it was a 27 inch Jericho to play in Drop F, I was wishing it was longer even tho it held up fine once set up. I don’t solo or shred, but once I got familiar and started writing, I found my self actually using the high E string a lot for a bunch of the ambient/emotional Melodie’s, so no regrets, but for sure get a 27inch or longer from Drop F.
@thadsiphone
@thadsiphone Жыл бұрын
I play 7 strings as my main guitars. I first started playing them because I have large hands and long fingers and they were more comfortable, now, I just love that I can bring 2 guitars with me to gigs instead of 4 because we tune to standard and drop D, I cover both with a 7 string!
@arielcandoleta5347
@arielcandoleta5347 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these points to think about and if I ever get a 7 string, it will be a standard tuning for me at the ver least.
@cyborgchimpy
@cyborgchimpy Жыл бұрын
hearing your complaints about the scale length for 7 string..I very recently got my first 7 string but its a multiscale. its 25.51 in to 27.01 in (had to convert from mm) . my 6 string is 25.5 in. aren't multiscale guitars made to alleviate the issue of string tension? I think its perfect for 7 string guitars or beyond.
@HansyPants184
@HansyPants184 Жыл бұрын
I personally feel like they're the best if you want versatility if you don't want or can't have a larger collection. If you tune the G string down a half step to F# it turns into a B-B baritone with a bonus high E and if you keep it standard its an E-E with a bonus low B. Picked up the cheapest Jackson on the market because of the 26.5 scale length. There is a learning curve but the fact that you can play standard tuned riffs without having to use a capo or extra brain power and have baritone range made it ideal for me.
@psc502
@psc502 Жыл бұрын
7 strings allow you to have a drop A and play drop shape chord and licks while having a standard tune 6 strings. A E A D G B E. Gives the best of bothe worlds you got a regular 6 strings with a added low string, put it in droo A and its so easy for people use to playing in drop d and e standard. Drop A plays easy in A minor/C major if you use alot of natural notes or play with a keyboard.
@c.m5043
@c.m5043 Жыл бұрын
Iv been playing for 15 years or so and only play for fun at home. I like to play things ranging from acoustic songs, to thrash metal to nu metal and everything else out there. I enjoyed changing to a 7 string AND a drop tune pedal. I can play absolutely any song in almost any tuning all on one instrument. Keeps it fun for me without needing multiple guitars.
@I_AM_THE_00
@I_AM_THE_00 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact, I play 7 but I use my 7 as a 6. I play my a jp70 sterling and I took out the 7th tuner peg and use it as a 6 string. I blocked off the tremolo cause I don’t really use it for what my band plays but here is the kicker. I feel more comfortable playing a 7 string guitar as a 6 string without the extra string. I feel like I have more room for that high e for more bends.
@justinrieger3133
@justinrieger3133 10 ай бұрын
I picked up an 8 string a few years back and I felt like I got in over my head a bit. I tuned it to drop A on the top 6 and then drop E from there on the bottom string, but I found myself just riffing in drop A and ignoring the 8th most of the time so I sold it. Picked up a cheap 7 string about a year ago and it's like it's been a straight up muse. I had a dry spell for some years where I was just creatively stumped, or just lost the motivation to even play. The 7 string was the remedy for that for me.
@MrJingles021
@MrJingles021 Жыл бұрын
I do drop A on a 24.75 scale length. No issues with it and it is intonated perfectly.
@alanleemaxwell831
@alanleemaxwell831 10 ай бұрын
I love playing 7 string, after playing six strings for decades, but I'm quite comfortable playing slipknot on my strat- if it's good enough for Jim Root and Mick Thomson it's good enough for me!! 🤣 Greetings and best wishes from the UK (p s. I subscribed instantly! 🎸🤘)
@dagaroth8830
@dagaroth8830 11 ай бұрын
I love how chill and non arrogant you are with this channel. I think you give great feedback on what the guitar community is interested in. MY personal take is, I personally think a 6 string+drop pedal eliminates any reason/want for extended range guitars.
@yobanyhernandez125
@yobanyhernandez125 Жыл бұрын
Part of me wants a cool looking 7 string, the other part of me is just used to getting those tones from the transpose function on my plugins. It doesn’t sound the same sure but scratches the itch.
@Human-hq3dy
@Human-hq3dy Жыл бұрын
I always feel heaviness comes from the tonality of the tuning, hence why to me drop c sounds the heaviest because it sounds the most minor yet clear and tight
@8KilgoreTrout4
@8KilgoreTrout4 Жыл бұрын
What gauge you like for Drop C? I play a thinner gauge in standard so I'm just curious.
@uroboric
@uroboric Жыл бұрын
If you play a major scale on a drop c guitar then it won’t sound minor
@Human-hq3dy
@Human-hq3dy Жыл бұрын
@@8KilgoreTrout4 as a rule of thumb I find if you go down a step you go up a gague, if you use 9’s I’d say go 10-52 and maybe adjust the c to taste
@Human-hq3dy
@Human-hq3dy Жыл бұрын
@@uroboric no but the key of c is quite dark
@greendayray
@greendayray Ай бұрын
What’s nice is theses days there are plenty of cheap options for someone to try one out
@kooluhl
@kooluhl 6 ай бұрын
It was perfect for me for learning the albums Heartwork and Slaughter of the Soul.
@DBIIIStudios
@DBIIIStudios Жыл бұрын
The biggest curve for me with a 7 is the additional deadening needed. It’s harder to keep the unused strings from buzzing while you’re playing. It’s just noisy. If you aren’t playing lead, or don’t want a standard 6 with an extra low string, just get a baritone.
@ToxicSentinelTTV
@ToxicSentinelTTV Жыл бұрын
I bought a Schecter C-7 Deluxe for Korn and Galneryus, because it's kinda difficult to properly play those tracks on a 6 string imo
@MisterDearly
@MisterDearly 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree asking why you want one. I use a seven string for melodic doom. I can get heavy low riffs and high melodic leads out of it. I couldn't do that with a 6 string tuned to drop a.
@eleno956
@eleno956 2 ай бұрын
I got a 7 string solely for the extra range. Yes, I was in need of some lower octaves, but I'm too comfortable playing in standard and I didn't wanna sacrifice my high e string. I just always felt like I was missing the lower range whenever I would play certain chords. I would get to the end of the neck and it felt incomplete, like I was missing something that should've been accessible to me. I've tried down tuning my guitar to B-E-A-D-G-B but, again, felt myself missing my high e since I use it for certain chords. The sound I was looking for had been found in that tuning so I just figured it was time to upgrade to a 7 string. Now that I bought my first one about a week ago, playing a 6 string feels so naked to me lol. I have more percussive/rhythm options available to me with my 7 and everything just kinda clicked for me once I got it and I feel at home with it. Gonna enjoy experimenting with it and continuing to practice :)
@jamesosterberg2510
@jamesosterberg2510 Жыл бұрын
I have one of the 2000 ex of the Epiphone Flying V Korina - 7 Strings. It's a weird 24.75 scale lenght 7 strings Flying V. It's made in Korea in 2000. I bought it for less than 300€ at my local guitar shop in France in 2001 !! I turned it full black, tuners, pickguard, hardware, etc, ... and it looks great ! There are pictures of Matt Heafy using one of these guitars back in the day with EMG's. Cool but weird guitar !!!
@sirnatanielson
@sirnatanielson Жыл бұрын
I only recently got the urge to look into 7 strings. Found two used ones at my local guitar center and got to try them. I'm a rhythm guy not so much a lead guy (but i dabble and I'm decent) and i found it to be so much fun. I actually enjoyed the wider neck. And despite playing for 18 years and still not having the fretboard fully memorized, i found the extended range of notes and options intriguing and a new challenge. Despite that ol "i wanna do some chugging", i found it as a unique way to add depth and bass to chording over top of it. Anyways i think you make good points. I agree in it being the fun string. It just adds more fun stuff you can do!
@ryzencorp8182
@ryzencorp8182 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing guitar for 3 years now, got a 7 string 2 months ago and within 1 week or two I got used to it. It's been so much fun to have more range (low g# to high Eb)
@donkarnage6032
@donkarnage6032 Жыл бұрын
7 strings cost more when they are new but generally cost less used because it’s not as easy to sell a 7 string to the niche market. I picked up a 30th anniversary RG 7 string for $900 just before the pandemic. They generally sell for around 1200 but Guitar Center knocked down the price to get rid of it.
@jjgson69
@jjgson69 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for years and can still barely handle six strings, I'm thinking Keith Richards had the right idea only using 5....
@jeffleecust
@jeffleecust Жыл бұрын
I have been on drop B on my modern take on a tele (SS frets, direct mount HH w/splits) roasted maple neck and board, roasted mahogany body, bone nut) and just for fun went back up to drop D and I can’t stop playing. Yeah it doesn’t sound as “heavy” but it’s fun and the tension on the strings made it feel different enough to make it fun.
@Brad-e2s
@Brad-e2s 2 ай бұрын
I play a whole step down DGCFAD With a string guage thats a little thicker and tighter feeling 11-50 I also chug around on Perfect 4th intervals instead of the typical Perfect 5th interval. Its a preference thing, but I think 4ths are heavier sounding than 5ths
@benjammn2157
@benjammn2157 9 ай бұрын
I play mostly play 6s in regular tunings and 6s tuned to drop A and A#. I also have a 17tone Ibanez rg350 tuned in between B and C standard. The necks on 6s just feel nicer and are generally more comfortable to me. As a rhythm player, losing some high end is no issue to me. I still like the 7s I’ve had. And I whip mine out to play stuff in drop F. It plays good.
@Rednaxicus
@Rednaxicus 5 ай бұрын
i got a 7 string and actually learned a lot from it even tho i now prefer 6 strings again, i definitely recommend it
@mcchurch118
@mcchurch118 Жыл бұрын
I fell out of the extended range. I only have one 7 string now that I use to play some of Trivium’s songs and that is it. Where would you place getting a drop tuner in the line up or is that a separate topic? 🤘🔥🔥🤘
@boriscat1999
@boriscat1999 10 ай бұрын
I just got a 7 string very cheap as a refurb/return, I guess some people regret their purchase. I looked into parts to "upgrade" it and there are fewer options, far less stuff on the used market, and parts are more expensive. I'm not sure I saved anything if I end up changing anything on this guitar, but out of the box it seems fun and the challenge at least will keep my interest.
@isaacvasquez4401
@isaacvasquez4401 Жыл бұрын
Used to have a 7 string but then after I put thicker strings on my 6 string I got rid of the 7 string guitar because I wasn’t using it anymore. Don’t regret it at all.
@Brandons_guitar_covers
@Brandons_guitar_covers 8 ай бұрын
Heres a funky 6 string tuning thats really heavy, c# standard but the low e string is tuned down to G, its the tuning dimebag did on 2 songs off trendkill
@robertvarner8195
@robertvarner8195 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I originally bought a seven string because we were doing alot of songs in drop D and that didn't really work with my Floyd Rose equipped guitars so it worked out well for me.
@MikeyUK93
@MikeyUK93 Жыл бұрын
aww crazy I was literally thinking about all this, just seeing this video now and you've covered it all!. thanks mate u got my sub' !
@normbarrows
@normbarrows Жыл бұрын
I own four 7 strings (both multiscale and non-multiscale), two 8 strings (both multiscale and non-multiscale), and a multiscale 10 string. Multiscale is definitely recommended for extreme drop tunings.
@gun_toting_lefty
@gun_toting_lefty 4 ай бұрын
Boomer here! 1st 7 string I ever saw was in the early 80s. My guitar teacher had a 7 string Classical guitar. Blew my mind! He played Classical and Jazz on it. I respect it, I'm just not mentally wired for it.
@SixString_J5
@SixString_J5 Жыл бұрын
I tried twice to add a 7 string to my collection and it didn't stick. I'd now consider myself back then as a novelty guitar player. I didn't know scales, modes, progressions, or any theory and I stuck to mostly covers. I wanted a 7 to be able to play covers. Well It's been over a decade since I've owned one a friend asked me to repair his 7 string with a faulty volume pot..... I fixed it and did a full setup and plugged it in to test it out.... OMG I had soo much fun riffing on it. NGL I want a 7 string again but It's not practical where I am in my playing career. I'm not writing much and am focused on teaching lessons to mostly beginners who are exclusively on 6 string. I have my eyes out and will jump on a stupid good deal for a mid range 7 string, but It's not really on my priority list.
@andrewsmith6898
@andrewsmith6898 Жыл бұрын
I am left handed. I've gotten to try 1 left handed guitar, a Kiesel my buddy had. I've always wanted one wilthout comitting heavy cash to get a lefty, at 25.5" scale length. But I usually play thrash in standard and death metal in C#. Do I need a 7!? Revocation makes it sound cool.
@josephconti9655
@josephconti9655 11 ай бұрын
You know I prepped myself to be a little annoyed but, I really appreciate and agree with your points. I personally started on a 7 and going to a six feels almost weird to me now lol.
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