Don’t Laugh at Penguin

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

You know the Penguin is the type who later tracked down every single person that ever bullied him no matter how trivial the incident and made them all suffer for his amusement.

[@HoffMatt]

Makes you wonder what he'd do to those girls who pranked him. No doubt they'd get the worst of it.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

@@HoffMattthe fact they beat him to I have no doubt he find them and got his people to beat them and do other things I can't said cause it KZbin that let just said those girls was never see again

[@datstift610]

What?

[@Grayson-tk5hn]

@@datstift610You know the Penguin is the type who later tracked down every single person that ever bullied him no matter how trivial the incident and made them all suffer for his amusement.

[@ashes2ashley230]

yo goth angst penguin looks kinda...

[@tricksterzyro3230]

I absolutely LOVE how they draw the Penguin's face whenever he's angered, this sweet odd - almost cartoonish looking misunderstood boy turned absolute monster with sharp teeth that shows whenever he does a wicked grin, also I couldn't help but read all of Penguin's lines in an Ice King voice, fitting.

[@birdofbanditry]

Fun fact to add to your comment: Tom Kenny, the voice of Ice King, actually DOES voice The Penguin in the 2004 series, The Batman.

[@cheseisreal]

@@birdofbanditryi KNEW there was a similarity!

[@doryu1004]

What the hell The second you said you read his lines in the Ice King's voice, I immediately associated every single penguin line I've ever read with that voice. Funny how the human mind works💀

[@kokayinewsome9308]

Same. It reminds me of Tim Burton Nightmare Before Christmas. Fits well, this art. I remember this graphic novel.

[@theplague5803]

He would sound like the ice king not gonna lie

[@TetsuShima]

I really loved the episode of the '90s Batman cartoon where Penguin tries to redeem himself and become an honorable man, only to have those aspirations destroyed by the cruel plans of fate. Oswald is a villain who, unlike the Joker, actually has a chance of becoming a good person.

[@randallflagg3700]

This story was indeed probably inspired by "Birds of a Feather", still one of my favorite Batman:TAS episodes, and sadly the only episode that Chuck Menville ever wrote for the show (he passed away about a year before the episode aired). In the show *Gotham* , the Penguin (brilliantly played by Robin Lord Taylor) tries to reform himself on a few occasions, but fate always has something in its sleeve for Oswald, who really can't catch a break over the 5 season of the show... and he always ends up falling back on violence/blackmail/murder to solve his problems. The *Gotham* Penguin is still my favorite adaptation of the character to this day, but I'm going to be watching "The Penguin" HBO Max tv show next year with an open mind, since Colin Farrell did such a great job on *The Batman* ...

[@themountaindude]

@@randallflagg3700 There'll be a SHOW about HIM?! LET'S GOOOO!!1!

[@funnyblog100]

The Riddler has a good chance of reforming as well actually he did before the new 52 relaunch and started his own detective agency. He even teamed up with Batman on several occasions and helped solve cases that left even Batman stumped. It was actually cool that he became Gotham's Sherlock Holmes.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@funnyblog100 - If you loved that part of Riddler's characterization, I strongly recommend you watching the *Justice League: Action* episode _"E. Nigma, Consulting Detective"_ ... Great episode from a great show, and Brent Spiner does a solid job at voicing Eddie. (his portrayal of the Joker in *Young Justice* is pretty controversial, but his Riddler is just perfect). When it comes to the rest of the voice actors for that particular episode, you can't go wrong with Kevin Conroy as Batman, Mark Hamill as Joker, and having Chris Diamantopoulos (that you might know as Aquaman from the *Harley Quinn* cartoon) reprising his role as Green Arrow from the "Batman Unlimited" trilogy.

[@alexandrejeankonghpps582]

🐧🐧🐧

[@nnamdiodiaka6684]

“Seeking some enjoyment for himself the penguin goes to a crime convention” That’s the most Gotham thing imaginable.

[@seijin4426]

Not too far off then.

[@Carpatouille]

In the real world, we call this far-left meetings.

[@seliamila1005]

​@@Carpatouillewrong, the people who tried to take down a functional democratic government last time were conservative trump supporters

[@seliamila1005]

​​@@Carpatouillethe one who tried to overthrow a functional democratic government last time were conservative trump supporters, that convention would be maga gatherings

[@CaptainSexay]

@@Carpatouille this is what culture war does to the brain, oof

[@drchristophe207]

The Penguin TV series adapted this character beat perfectly.

[@josephthefirst1]

👌🏻

[@4n4Queen]

Yep , really good show. Pretty disappointed that they end it too soon for vic , the guy got a potential for a right hand men for cobb family.

[@spinyslasher6586]

​@@4n4Queen Oswald is too selfish and egocentric to trust anyone or have a family. He views these as a weakness rather than a strength. He killed Vic not because he was not needed for him, but because he started to become too attached to him and consider him family.

[@puffpuffpassmako]

The panel revealing Oswald resold Violet back to the slave cage genuinely made my heart jump. It's one of the only comic panels to actually disturb me

[@concept5631]

One of the most messed up things Batman's rogue's gallery has done. No blood. No gore. Just a single frame of a woman in a cage, and its horrifying.

[@Ben-jl2rh]

Edit: Penguin wasn't cruel enough

[@concept5631]

@@Ben-jl2rh No it wasn't. If you want a writer's personal fetish, look at Bruce Timm.

[@JCfireman]

Sigma 🤓😎

[@kwayneboy1524]

​​​@@Ben-jl2rhkinda is his thing tho

[@strikermodel]

You will not see me making fun of the kid who looks like an alligator. That's cool as fuck and I'd either be his friend or scared of him.

[@Mulletman_Comics]

Best Comment Ever.

[@swiftstreak98]

That'd be cool af

[@internetkurator9256]

I agree and as a grown up hes like the most badassguy ever. I would enjoy hanging out with him.

[@Phiery]

Bro could've been a movie actor but no he wanted to be a business man

[@tde4438]

Honestly, as someone from Florida, Waylon and I would be best fucking friends~

[@EriTheFish]

Don't laugh at anyone in Gotham, one second you laugh at a strange guy in a top hat and the next you're starring in the next Saw movie

[@TheAzulmagia]

The only problem with that is that Joker has killed at least one person for not laughing at his jokes.

[@PhoenixMerlyn69]

You should try to laugh if you’re near the Joker

[@kennedylemon5837]

​@@PhoenixMerlyn69 I'm pretty sure the last guy that laughed near the joker had his life turn upside down

[@PhoenixMerlyn69]

@@kennedylemon5837 It depends on his mood.

[@seijin4426]

​@@TheAzulmagiaI thought everything was a joke to the joker, so why so serious?

[@noahcopeland5554]

This truly was tragic. All the Penguin ever wanted was to be loved, and Violet was proof that even someone like him was able to find love. But after letting himself become so twisted by society into the man he is now, he ensured that he won’t ever be able to have love he so desperately wants.

[@erlendvageskar3356]

The Penguin is my fav Batman villain for a reason.

[@erlendvageskar3356]

Also the face of 8:58… I just wanna hug that poor man.

[@icetide9411]

Penguin is a character that has grown on me so much because of how he's depicted in a bit of a more down-to-earth 'if things had only gone better" character. Like Croc for example, his condition is so horrible that it's hard to imagine him re-integrating into society. But penguin is just a very ugly man, he feels like he could have actually become better.

[@raydhen8840]

Yeah, Croc has better chance to become... better, than Penguin. The key different between the two despite all that ridicule they got from their deformities, is their willingness to change. Penguin (or at least this comic version of him), sometimes just cause his own misery that put him back to square one, like killing the bird that bit him, or sending Violet back to the slavery. At that point he has nothing else to blame but himself, but doesn't want to take the blame. For all that power and riches he possess, He still not strong enough to change himself. On the other hand, In the same side story that covered Croc, we learned that he willing to become silent bodyguard for a couple that saved him & apparently treat him like normal person. Not only Croc wanting to be normal is pivotal for his character, but he has the capacity to be better. One keeping the status quo by himself, while other has status quo keeping him.

[@zakosist]

Yes, and if he had just stopped commiting crime and sabotage after finding his "soulmate" his life would have stayed fine. He ruined for himself the only real chance he got. Also showed there was some genuine good in him, at least a little bit, despite being evil in the total and that evil won. There was a slight chance he could have redeemed, but just because there is a chance doesnt mean the good have to win. I really like that, hes a fascinating character with depth

[@kiannrodrick2426]

Alberto Falcone learned this... the hard way.

[@exoticlothing777]

i knew someone is going say that

[@BaldEaglePC]

So the ONE time the dream girl doesn't turn out to be another cruel joke of destiny, Oswald couldn't let go of the hatred? That is beyond sad

[@vileluca]

Well he was, slowly. But mental illness doesn't vanish overnight.

[@eligostheexalted]

@@vileluca Exactly, I feel like given enough time with her, he could've gotten better. As somebody with a litany of mental health issues due to severe trauma in my childhood and adolescence, I know that from experience. I used to be vindictive, manipulative, dishonest, cruel, and full of anger. Even after getting therapy, I engaged in some really nasty maladaptive coping mechanisms. It wasn't until I met my girlfriend that I learned to truly love myself and let go of all the hate and pain, because until then I fully believed that the reason nobody ever loved me was because there was nothing about me to love. Even then, it took a while for the mechanisms to completely go away, and I nearly lost her in the process. But now I'm in a really good place. Despite how awful I used to be, I recognize that I was only like that because it was how the world taught me to be. The core of who I am is good, and I believe that's true of Ozzie as well.

[@airsoftgunreviewr331]

@@eligostheexalted fake AND gay!

[@TheMaxFusionGaming]

So then that’s the cruel joke. Destiny is the real bitch with the last laugh. I hope she’s as lonely as I am.

[@seijin4426]

​@@eligostheexaltedmaybe it worked out for you, but a guy like penguin already made up his mind a long time ago the moment he started harming others. Don't do what he did.

[@Firemaster27]

Note to self: never suggest being a comedian to the Penguin

[@NeroTheAngel]

imagine inviting the penguin to a good ol roast

[@swiftstreak98]

Sounds like something Joker would do

[@segismundosaulalex3065]

Well you can start small. Jordan Peterson said that one of his patients had extreme social anxiety, she couldn't even give a handshake and say her name, barely could talk with another person, but as this "exposure therapy" of social interaction went on she end up doing stand up comedy and reading poems of her own making. It took years of course but the progress is there. Evil, Good, cruelty or kindness, all is learned.

[@Firemaster27]

@@segismundosaulalex3065 not worth the death and trouble 💀

[@seijin4426]

​@@NeroTheAngelthat'd be a pretty short night.

[@MaverickHunterX401]

The idea of Batman doing Arkham combos on thugs while listening to the penguin talk about violet is funny to me

[@fireghost-i3j]

And then Penguin's just like "See you next week" like it's a weekly occurrence. Just another Saturday for him XD

[@danboru_bakooo1966]

"boss I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING BUT IM GETTING BEATING OVER HERE"

[@tiem6260]

i really do love the modern interpertation of penguin. so often in media villains are ugly on the outside to reflect how ugly they are on the inside but thats a very shallow visual way of showing evil. evil people are very often civilized and aesthetically pleasing. what penguin shows is how this obsession with outer ugliness does to a person and how being seen by society as ugly on the outside has made a person who could've been a good man in another life into a rotten cruel vain person just like the people who hurt him when he was growing up.

[@pesapesto3471]

@@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739 yet you are the one being overtly insulting, silly sausage

[@Linklex7]

@@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739Ted Bundy, the Menedez brothers, the dating game killer. Sometime evil is pretty.

[@PieroMinayaRojas]

The Penguin show really showcases this perfectly

[@krypticunlimited6925]

Especially with the newest episode, and what really happened with his brothers

[@Linklex7]

⁠@@krypticunlimited6925facts. I’ve seen people complain that Sunday”s episode didn’t make him likable. You’re not suppose to like him. He’s still the villain that these movies are building toward.

[@ekrous427]

@@Linklex7oh boy I want to hear you guys opinion on this recent episode lol

[@jonjuvan9447]

Vic didnt deserve that

[@doggo9355]

Vic was a pure boy

[@Brklynking93]

Thats why i say fuck penguin. Vic never laughed at him or called him a monster. Vic was naive and shouldve left with his girl when he had the chance.

[@yaboiz1568]

Vic is still alive

[@jackdrew518]

​@@Brklynking93This Oz was different from his tragic version.

[@tanulsingh8563]

@@yaboiz1568 how he clearly died

[@higaiwokeru]

Penguin clearly has some anger management issues but, man, he’s also just unbelievably cruel Instead of reflecting, instead of wanting to change himself, he lashes out What he did to Violet was worse than killing her, leaving her in the same hell he found her and he does seem to ponder, about how having the last laugh might not be the best outcome but it’s the only one he knows. I LOVE this comic because it shows why Penguin is another parallel of Batman, Oswald and Bruce are rich orphans, Oswald being greedy while Bruce is selfless But while Batman is vengeance, Penguin is revenge (as cringy as that sounds)

[@LordEmperorBoss]

Revenge is a hell of a drug.

[@Silver-Freddy]

The difference is the penguin is ugly and Bruce is a gigachad so it’s easy to see why he would turn out one way and not the other

[@jeshitorenburei224]

@@Silver-FreddyThe blackpill is the only truth.

[@mrkiray7611]

@@jeshitorenburei224No more pills. You’re gonna O.D

[@PrismaticCatastrophism]

>he’s also just unbelievably cruel >Instead of reflecting, instead of wanting to change himself, he lashes out But is he really responsible for it? He just was taught to be like this.

[@paladinslash4721]

Can you imagine how horribly Penguin would handle fighting Terry McGinnis.

[@billyboleson2830]

The guy already can’t stand robins

[@simonhenriqueesilvalima90]

He wouldn't last a week.

[@GerardoUmi]

​@billyboleson2830 which is ironically hilarious. Always fighting batman with birds but when batman brings his it's trouble.

[@sdrolnoteleks]

i like how batman showed up to the penguin's house just to fuck up his goons and threaten him and leave

[@jeffowens9536]

Honestly, I like the build of Penguin. It's very different from other builds in the Batman Rouges' Gallery.

[@deejaycxre]

penguin has a very fancy look. he bears a large resemblance to Igor from the persona series, just small and a pudgier.

[@conic2721]

@@deejaycxre thats why i thought he was similar to something. He looks really similar to the big nose demi-god

[@EthanWinters-y9m]

After watching "The Penguin" I get it. Don't laugh at Penguin

[@liamphibia]

Oswald must've shared a similar tragic early life as his comic counterpart.

[@Philweasel]

Yeah, I loved this story and always felt like Penguin's insecurity and obsession with his own ugliness is such a key part of his character. Colin Farrell's version captures that perfectly, the attempt to grasp some nobility undercut by his own bitterness.

[@bluesamurai04]

hits different after the show

[@ibrothebro6864]

Justice for Vic

[@OK-yy6qz]

If he did all that to a Chef for simply Laughing while he is around i can only imagine what he did to the people that bullied him while he was a kid or even the women that were using him for free meals and Drinks

[@serverllegion6184]

You know perhaps if Oswald had kept his coposture and had a better hold on his more violent tendencies and he could perhaps have sought psychological help for the sake of his good relationship with violet(for as long it lasted in the story) something of a positive out come could have happened in this story (Such as violet not being sent back to the cage) but this is the penguin we are talking about so his road to an attempt redemption would not be so easily done unlike mister freeze who had a mostly normal life until the accident that changed his life and body chemistry In a way he needed a life support system just to stay alive outside sub zero temperatures +his wife’s medical condition

[@wander7812]

Penguin deserves respect out of that thumbnail alone. His Sans cosplay is legendary.

[@TetsuShima]

Oswald's story in modern comics reminds me a lot of Gao, the protagonist of Osamu Tezuka's iconic manga "Phoenix: Karma." For those who do not know, Gao is a man from the 8th century who, lacking an eye and an arm, was always marginalized and mistreated by the inhabitants of his village until he finally couldn't take it anymore and became an unscrupulous bandit who kills even children in cold blood, continuing with such a path of death and destruction until he mistakenly killed a ladybug that made him company in human form in gratitude for saving her life. This tragic act causes Gao to enter a journey of redemption and enlightenment that will even make him live 400 years. It's one of the most heartbreaking mangas I've ever read. In fact, there are many famous manga characters, such as Guts from "Berserk" and Ichikawa from "The Dangers in My Heart" who are clearly inspired by Gao.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

​@@TheHamMann Can *you* ever just leave a comment that has a modicum of basic decency and civility?

[@Adolph-Inler]

Hero and villain quips are so overdone. I like myself a protagonist who knows that good and evil are obsolete concepts, and doesn't give any qualms about throwing away their morals when it's in the way of their interests. There are no heroes or villains, only people with interests. See otherwise, neutral "evil" alignment.

[@gautamdubey2822]

​@@Adolph-Inlerhe literally mentions sopranos the concept you refer to is called an antihero which is a protagonist who doesn't behave like a protagonist like light from death note or walter White from better call saul 🤦‍♂

[@schizophrenic_rambler]

My brother in Christ, Guts was raped and betrayed countless times

[@schizophrenic_rambler]

​​​​@@gautamdubey2822protagonist, antagonist, hero, and villain are all different things. The protagonist is the main character, the antagonist is the one who opposes them, the hero is the character that makes morally right decisions, while villains fall to vice. Light and Walt aren't antiheroes at all, they're villains or antivillains at best, but they're both protagonists. Also, it may be shitpost but Walt and Saul are both from Breaking Bad, saying Walter from Better Call Saul is like saying Mario from Yoshi's Island.

[@ashleyshanks6821]

This is a great Penguin story. I don't often pay attention to the Penguin, with flashier villains like Poison Ivy and Scarecrow around, but this story was satisfyingly dark. As someone who was severely bullied in middle school, I remember afterwards there was a period in my life when the sound of laughter- not just any kind, but the mocking, stupid, high pitched kind- got my hackles up. It took a few years for that to fade. So I utterly get the Penguin, for whom the past is never past, being tetchy about laughter.

[@Linklex7]

There’s a reason why The Penguin has lasted this long as one of the big 4 Batman villains, that even casual fans know about.

[@paulnash9851]

I love the idea that Batman just pops round on the regular just to kick the crap out of goon #357... “Yes, yes, see you next week...”

[@Bloodshack89]

Damn I found this video after watching the first ep of The Penguin on Max. You REALLY don’t wanna laugh at the Penguin 😅

[@burnman7274]

Makes me appreciate the show more now

[@abowlofbakingsoda7455]

Penguin show really pulled it off

[@LuckyDineroTv]

4:45 bro said I don’t wanna cut it out leave it in 😅😅

[@Rarkru]

Man i was listening to this as a podcast and that fking scared me lol

[@nseven1117]

I find it fascinating how it takes a flying mammal to counter a flightless bird. weird how they aren't the arch-nemesis to each other instead of Batman and Joker.

[@Linklex7]

That’s the great thing about Batman’s rogues gallery . . . . at least when Hollywood isn’t just using the same 5 over and over again. Many of them could make a case for being Batman’s arch-nemesis. The Riddle is the Moriarty to Batman’s Sherlock, Scarecrow loves to use fear as a weapon as well as Batman does, Two-Face must also deal with his own duality as well as his own form of vigilante Justice, Penguin & Batman are both rich boys with anger and parent issues, and Deadshot worships guns like a god despite Batman absolutely hating them.

[@shinobix4925]

Penguin is unbelievably cruel for that ending, he absolutely could have just killed the girl, or better yet, he could have just let her leave, but no, simply for calling him out on his bs, he sent her directly to the place she wanted to be the least, he ended her nightmare only to start it up again. Pure cruelty. Also the Joker's 100% the kinda guy who'd enjoy laughing at someone as sadistic as Penguin

[@vileluca]

She had been saved by his generosity. What made her think that she was entitled to further generosity? He simply took away the gift he gave her - freedom.

[@Bane520]

@@vileluca Found the incel

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

​@@vilelucaMy guy why are you justifying that? 😨

[@segismundosaulalex3065]

@@Bane520 Found the twitter user.

[@EyePatchGuy88]

@@vileluca She certainly didn't ask Oswald why he did it, she took things for granted.

[@aymaanrashid2033]

alberto should've listened to this advice

[@StyleshStorm]

That last dialogue to the epilogue to this story sent a very specific chill down my spine. a different kind of fearful horror to dwell on psychologically. Happy Halloween 🎃👁️‍🗨️

[@ResearcherGhost]

You know this is really heartwarming because on the RA challenges on Arkham city and Arkham Knight of the Iceberg, you always can see Oswald looking at you but near him also is Waylon. I think he has a soft spot for him due to the both of them having a hard childhood for something they couldn't control as their physical appearance. Therefore Oswald Isn't afraid of let Waylon in even sitting next to him. He knows the cover can be misleading of the pages of the book

[@momojafar9385]

new penguin show personified this

[@worldview3182]

It’s so freaking good . And we still have 4 episodes

[@henrypicklevitz8870]

The laughing trigger also comes up in the opening scene of the first episode of HBO's 'The Penguin' , with Carmine Falcone's son

[@edwardhannah8507]

"Ohh fu-"

[@hopegalaxy]

This is gonna be an interesting comparison between the show and the comics.

[@Dm_Classic01]

He pumped him with all the bullets and still pumping

[@mr.shameless1886]

ah yes. *The Crime Convention.* i love going there sometimes to see the new tech they'd bring every month, keeping the industry alive

[@freshnewcungadero]

The Penguin, along with Catwoman, are the most interesting members of Batman's rogues gallery. Neither of them are typically portrayed as evil per se, just varying degrees of corrupt.

[@yurifairy2969]

penguin is absolutely evil

[@seliamila1005]

Penguin is evil bro

[@rickDArula]

Just finished the penguin series on Max. Although I loved the performance and rooted for Oz, that ending made me hate him lol He plays the character so well

[@m8vingandsh88ting8]

alberto learned better than anyone not to laugh at Oz

[@vanillabatcave5677]

Oz gave Vic that good ol' Christopher Moltisanti special. plus, what do you mean it was Vic that made you hate him? he was a scumbag from the start lmao.

[@SugarW1thC0ffee]

@@vanillabatcave5677he had a lot of redeeming moments, but was always quickly taken away

[@spinyslasher6586]

I mean yeah he's a villain, like a straight up villain, not an anti-hero, just a really evil guy.

[@Lumminere]

Well guess Alberto Falcone learned it the hard way 😆🤣

[@Mehedi0fficial]

Viti was lucky Oz did not have a deadly weapon in his hand, unlike his phone. 😂

[@queencancerous5332]

Penguin is honestly the Batman villain the closest to being reformed.

[@reggielaw9712]

the ending of this reminds me lowkey about the ending of the show, iykyk

[@AffectiSaVerb]

And yet, no one stops bullying people, despite knowing what they could be doing to the mind of their victims.

[@MR0KITTY]

Even seeing what he did, Violet still never remarked on his appearance, just his actions.

[@kiwi6486]

I have a new appreciation for the amount of creativity and in-depth writing that goes into these comics. Love your content, keep it up!

[@mantidream8179]

In a strange way, I have some respect for the Penguin. He was born into a world that was nothing but cruel to him, and instead of lying down and taking it he decided to empower himself and become a man to be feared.

[@spbot2]

i have no respect for people that want to be feared. thats a sign of weakness. beeing so weak that you need fear as a weapon to defend yourself.

[@Brightsonp]

​@@spbot2well, thats the only way he could think of. Remember, he doesn't wanted to be feared. He wanted to be loved. And to do that he need to make people fear him to make them love him even though it's fake love

[@Bane520]

You're right, that is very strange.

[@Bane520]

@@Brightsonp Thus he wants to be feared...

[@TheShooterlol]

@@spbot2 its the law of nature. if you were unloved and hated you would adapt survive and overcome. So stop being a hypocrite.

[@mundane.]

The show got this guy to a T, it’s actually insane

[@ZandiGuy]

Bro it's f'ed😮 up

[@AHORAN02]

I imagine that Eve is gonna end up having Violet's role in the show/movie later on, probably with the same conclusion but still somewhat different

[@mundane.]

@@AHORAN02 I think Eve’s character is more transactional though in the show. I’m not even sure he likes her

[@AHORAN02]

@@mundane. Idk, it seems as if he likes her a lot in the show. But yeah for her it’s definitely more of a transactional relationship, so I could definitely imagine it ending up being like in the comic where he loves her and wants to marry her, but she ends up confronting/betraying him (again) and he then gets her killed or something worse

[@mrelectrickz1485]

I understand the penguin, sometimes they really bothered me a lot as a child and in high school, that made me feel that the laughter around me was mockery of me, but now and trying to be better

[@concept5631]

Good. I'm proud of you.

[@JanielDavidAlfaros]

Bad. I'm dissapointed of you.

[@concept5631]

@@JanielDavidAlfaros Cringe

[@bruzh6359]

You had to track them down

[@dataexpunged4784]

Neutral. I have no strong feelings on you one way or the other

[@Pascanchik.]

There so many good villains in the Batman series. And penguin is definitely one of them. He’s one the most evil villains I’ve ever seen. From what I remember he also helps Batman to keep the crime down. Doesn’t he?

[@jordanloux3883]

He helps Batman with crime that interferes with his business. The downside of his help is that Bruce and the Batfamily are forced to turn the other way and let him continue operating.

[@Pascanchik.]

@@jordanloux3883 Oh yeah! Now I remember thanks for the reminder

[@gourley_85]

​@@jordanloux3883to be honest it could be worse. Penguin is no where a good guy but he could be worse.

[@felixmckinney7132]

Penguin probably should have just gone home to watch The Sopranos

[@jaredulloa7861]

and get his shinebox

[@ilikecats24-ct5nx]

They really emphasized on that in the new show, huh

[@chrisjlee2013]

What new show

[@ilikecats24-ct5nx]

@@chrisjlee2013 The Penguin

[@lessssssgooooo]

​@@chrisjlee2013 you are missing out buddy

[@SnibsnBibs]

That story is actually a pretty sadly accurate view of life for a lot of guys these days, I think. I mean obviously not so edgy and dark as sending flocks of killer birds at people or selling people into slavery, but the way he's made into this angry little monster who defeats his own attempts at happiness. He could have had a great life with Violet if he was able to let go of all the rage. But the longer you spend alone, the more you're warped into an angry thing that nobody wants to share in, the more the cycle perpetuates. Hurt leads to bitterness, bitterness leads to loneliness, loneliness leads to hurt, rinse and repeat. People will crush you, wound you deep, and the only two options you have is to either let it turn you into a sad, cynical little bastard, or let go. Letting go of hate and anger over what life has thrown in your lap and the people you've had the misfortune of encountering is the hardest thing in the world, and it's also the primary factor in finding your way out of the cycle.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

But ask yourself, what good would that do him? Especially if he didn't meet violet? He is still being bullied and taken advantage of even in present day, just now he can take revenge on them. He already tried to "put up with it" in the past and look where that got him. Like you said, the cycle just repeats. For him, theres nothing really he can do. He is too blinded by everything thrown at him, to see any chances he might get. And who can blame him. This is just what it means to be broken, and only someone who can understand can possibly fix it.

[@milliondollarmistake]

tbf those girls had that bird attack coming lol

[@SnibsnBibs]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin There's certainly a lot more obstacles in his way than the average down-on-his-luck guy. Even if he let go, he'd still have to constantly put up with everyone's cruel bullshit. He would have to have some truly Christ-like levels of forgiveness and patience in order to live a normal life (not that he could at this point, what with the supervillain criminal record and all that). That's what fucks me up. There are people in the world who you really can't say aren't justified in hating everything. The universe took a heaping shit of misfortune on them the day they were conceived, and the entirety of life from the moment they're born is just an endurance test of misery to see how much they can take before self terminating. It's easy for self-help gurus and good looking people with lots of successful relationships to admonish the less fortunates for being a little bitter, but there's no universe where they could look like Penguin and still be spouting that kind of stuff with a straight face.

[@SirSnipington]

Yeah but tbh I know this sounds stupid as fuck but if penguin, being as rich as he is, doesn’t like when people laugh at him or look at him for being ugly and that’s the source of all his problems of people teasing him. Then he could easily just pay the best surgeons in the world to give him the best makeover anyone has ever seen. Like they could give him proper teeth, give him a nose job etc. Then he’d look normal 🤷🏽‍♂️. Again it sounds rly stupid but there’s literally no other solution, and it’s much better than him just killing people for laughing/teasing him

[@CDM416]

​@SirSnipington I think it's the principal of it for him. It's the fact that no one even stops to take his personality into consideration and their reaction to him really just reveals how naturally shallow and inconsiderate they are, regardless of whether his appearance was considered acceptable or not

[@freebird264]

'Don't Laugh at Penguin' hits a lot harder of the new series dropped.

[@Beriorn]

Every hero needs a hater. Flash has Reverse-Flash, Superman has Luthor, Aquaman has Black Manta and Batman has Penguin.

[@spookyface4304]

"Those who last laugh often laugh alone" goes so hard as a line

[@theashen2019]

I’m sure there is a way for the Penguin to be… well saved. Hell maybe if she stuck with him and tried to direct him towards a better path maybe she could have gotten through to him.

[@lawolffe]

never realized how tragic his story really was

[@madness5693]

Colin Farrell really made the penguin come to light

[@nepu47]

I was bullied one(Thankfully, there were friends who always cover me, I can tell that they made me keep sane). And I can see what that reaction of penguin is. For example, someone laughing walks aside me, even I aware that they don`t laugh at me, but I just freeze at that moment. Yes, It is not resonable reaction. But sadly, when you`d been bullied like 5 years, your brain just adjusts like that. If that is intentional, My brain says that you have to prove that you are able to counter them immediately. It is not a clever nor ethical way, but that temptation, "You have to prove that you are not weakling", just does not go away. School life, unforunately, does not end. I always deal with my anger issue, and just try not to bark like a dog which saw strangers around.

[@jacyhoogvliets5716]

the penguin is one of the most broken villains tbh. He just wanted to be loved

[@bombernoodle1626]

Bro had a vision 💀

[@nayand.lokhande182]

The title of this video explains the opening scene of "The Penguin" series... IYKYK🐧

[@Gazing-09]

At least in the 2004 cartoon, the Penguin had 2 Geisha bodyguards that seemingly care for him, obey him... Even feel jealousy towards any women who catches his fancy.

[@MaximBrevnov]

don't laugh at Penguin because now it's the best series i've seen for the last couple years!

[@thefunkymonkey8269]

The penguin(hbo) opening got this point across perfectly

[@llDbGll]

I always find "you're bad because you're ugly/deformed" characters to be incredibly depressing if they indulge into negative lifestyles. Mainstream media tends to "redeem" ugly characters by either making them successful/rich, or beautiful, instead of developing then into more humane and selfless versions of themselves who want to help those who have fallen victim of the same discrimination. Having said that, I hold the belief that Oswald transcends redemption. He's a monster both on the inside and outside with no intent in changing his ways in any meaningful way. He has no nobility and his empathy, however little he might have, is completely tainted by his victim complex and anger issues.

[@EyePatchGuy88]

"his victim complex and anger issues." A Victim Complex implies that you see yourself as a victim when in reality you're not, and as far as anger issues go, they are merely a symptom.

[@chestnut4860]

Somewhat related, this is part of why I think megamind is overated. By the virtue of "kid logic" they had to make Hal ugly and in his intoduction there's plausible deniability as to whether he actually just believes roxys polite excuses yet this is "foreshadowing". So they end up reaffirming the "ugly/awkard = no gf" idea they were making fun of.

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

This isn't a dark joke, I don't have a punchline, I just wanted to share this somewhere. I was on the receiving end of an elaborate fake "love" letter when I was a teenager. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I was already at a point in my life where I believed no one could have romantic feelings for someone like me, even though I didn't quite consciously realize it. I immediately felt sickly and uneasy, I wasn't sure why at the time, but something deep inside me told me it was something made from hate, not love. I eventually found out who was responsible for it and confirmed it was a prank. It was painful enough that I thought I was on good terms with this person only to find out the inexplicably hated me. It was also painful realizing just how far someone would go, just how much effort they'd put into something solely designed to hurt me. Years later I found out this person had always just inexplicably hated me, regardless of how much of a friend I'd tried to be to her. So, you know, if you're reading this and you're young, don't do stuff like that to people. If you have some inexplicable hatred for someone you don't really even know, just avoid them. It will still hurt them, but it's better than inflicting worse forms of abuse toward them.

[@lexcentrique2554]

This isn't a dark joke? Then why am I laughing at the pathetic of somebody who can't get over their own hatred after years? She could have left you alone, tried to communicate with you! She only wanted to break things.

[@fudgen.a1249]

@@lexcentrique2554Sometimes, when someone dislikes somebody enough, or in a specific way, they may go out of their way to hurt the individual in any way they can. Even if it’s more effort than it’s worth. And the thing is, said victim doesn’t always have to be a bad person. Or wronged them. Or have done anything. Sometimes existing can be enough. Some people are truly that malicious, and it can be for a variety of reasons, or none.

[@tr3xbaybay724]

The TV Show gave the Penguin a craaaaazy Depth

[@SugarW1thC0ffee]

There’s nothing like it. This Batman will possibly become the coolest, richest, and deepest adaptation ever made.

[@Cisco_24]

Who else is here after that Penguin finale.

[@jesusarcique]

he shot Alberto Falcone for laughing at him in the series, matt reeves is a genius at adaptations

[@mursaleensaleem1806]

agree, the show waa fire

[@0000i1]

Lauren LeFranc wrote the show

[@SyllaHill]

It's like Penguin got rabies upon the bite of the bird; and is activated by a sinister laugh.

[@jordanloux3883]

Without a doubt, the best breaking of the 'Show, Don't Tell' rule I've ever seen.

[@aydenizyucesan4023]

this aged perfectly

[@hoyporhoy6591]

This aged like fine wine 🍷🍷

[@nigelborg7609]

honestly after this comic i wouldnt call penguin a monster i would call him something that is super fitting A MESS just A MESS

[@lunanyx8592]

I love how tragic Batman's villains are. What makes them evil isn't that they're outcasts, it's the choices they make once their cast out. You feel sympathy for them but also can see where they went wrong and how bad of people they are. It makes them feel fleshed out and nuanced.

[@AintNoWaye]

this aged well

[@guldi3]

This comic shows so much more in my opinion. One of the most genius things is how the pinguin later misinterpreted peoples actions as those harmful actions he is so scared of. Just because that is always what he is expecting from people. I once had to fight a lot of similar feelings and had a lot of similar experiences. The thing is this is 100% accurate, a lot of people that had those problems do the very same thing. You start to imagine those harmful things everywhere and ultimately torture yourself even further because of it. It takes a lot of time and great friends to understand that it is all in your head. Sadly it seems like the pinguin broke and became a real monster before he met this person, basically sealing himself into that destiny forever.

[@jordancave3089]

It’s a bit narcissistic though…don’t you think? Assuming that someone else can’t be doing something that’s totally unrelated to you…like everyone else in the world doesn’t have their own thoughts, feelings, and lives that have nothing to do with you…it’s an incredible childish way of thinking.

[@magnum1165]

Society tends to shape us into what we are but at the end of the day it’s up you and you only if your gonna let society turn you into a monster

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

True tho

[@ryebananabread7843]

2:55 A crime convention? Tf is this, the Minions?

[@trademarc-j2p]

1:18 very interesting similarities between that panel and the finale

[@ReaverTheSurvivalist]

Of course Gotham has a Crime Convention lmao

[@TheAzulmagia]

There's a story called "Penguin: Pain and Prejudice" which had a similar sequence of Penguin getting revenge on people he feels slighted him through extremely disproportionate means. You said something he didn't like? He plants CP in your computer and sends an anonymous tip to the police, ruins your marriage, causes a gas leak in your favorite restaurant, etc. I guess that's just kind of his thing.

[@mr.giangius6203]

Penguin is the best constructed villain ever. Political, businessman, sharp minded. Let's not forget how classy and stylish he is.

[@4xmo]

hes good not best ever tho lmao

[@mr.giangius6203]

@@4xmo I'm a super fan. To me, he's the best. I'm into all those characters with political skills, keen intellect and tactical mind.

[@basilplushie2534]

​@@mr.giangius6203 What you think of penguin show

[@Hewhodoesthemachines]

I can relate to Oswald when I was 13

[@veaceslavstoianov4378]

Me too

[@eojamgil]

hope you're okay now

[@Krish.Sookraj]

mine too

[@kafkaesquera]

alberto shoulda watched this smh

[@thefbiman2116]

This story shows how not only petty but sick Oswald Cobblepot is, not just his alter ego. He went through all that trouble to get revenge on a single chef for accidentally interrupting his moment

[@striker8961]

If an overarching, concise, constructed Gotham history / mythology was made, which would be interesting but it's fluidity leaves a lot of room to grow and do whatever writers want, but if it were to be made, having Croc be the loyal enforcer of the Penguin because he looked after him because he understood his pain would be an interesting idea.

[@jordanloux3883]

It would be interesting to know what history the Cobblepots have with The Court of Owls. Not sure if they have ever explored that in the comics...

[@striker8961]

@@jordanloux3883 I'm not to knowledgeable about the comics but that seems like an interesting idea as well. I'd say either they used to be a part of it or were shunned and refused it. Either way, I doubt they'd look favourably on The Penguin.

[@topcat59]

Honestly it makes me wonder if penguin ever achieved having a friend in the newer comics.🤔🐱

[@jordanloux3883]

Friends implies vulnerability. And Oswald will never let those safeguards down. Not for anyone.

[@oballma6957]

"Villains are not born, they're made"

[@Artez-c4r]

2:01 I can't stop looking at him not because of his sad story not because of his face but his expression he literally looks like Greg heffly

[@flashygreenx8828]

I think this comic serves as a lesson to never give into rage or negative emotions. And don’t let society break you. It will be unfair and harsh at first. But it will be not cruel if you let it break you. The price for your darkest desire, won’t help in the long run

[@kwayneboy1524]

I guess this also shows why Oz is a parallel to Bruce as both have been through shit that gives them anger issues but Bruce takes that anger and uses it to stop monsters while Oz uses it to be a monster.

[@vileluca]

"At first". Nah. It never stops being that way.

[@xomi9722]

​@@vilelucait does, it really does, and i used to think the same way

[@Tartersauce101]

Bro. Very prescient video having just seen The Penguin episode 1!

[@EyePatchGuy88]

Sounds like Oswald internalised all the shit he got given, and gave it back tenfold.

[@JasonParmenter]

Imagine living in Gotham and being stupid enough to laugh at someone who looks different than you when there's like 20+ villains whose entire backstory is they got laughed at for being different.

[@tailsprowerfan2729]

He looks adorable as a child

[@cherrycordiaI]

He really was a cutie and seemed really sweet.

[@---_---_---_---___---]

I mean... What was violet expecting? She was a slave at a **villain convention** and was "freed" by a **villain** and she was shocked to find out he had done villainous things in the past and continued to do villainous things? Like? Yeah, no shit. The penguin is a monster and tou should have relised that before he even freed you because again, he was at a thing literally called a **villain convention**

[@erubin100]

there are different levels of villainy. she probably thought he was just into white collar crime.