Marvels Darkest Story Ever Made

[@mecojean4119]

The reason why Galactus body is just floating in space its because after Silver Surfer ripped himself appart, he didn't have someone to help him finding new worlds to eat and died of hunger

[@looniemoonie5955]

Why he didn't just eat Earth tho? There was nobody to protect it, no Avengers, no X-Men, no Fantastic Four

[@shanbogard9361]

@@looniemoonie5955 didnt the silver surfer find earth first and tell galactus? So then without his help galactus wouldnt have been able to find earth in time

[@mecojean4119]

@@shanbogard9361 Yeah, maybe by the time he came to the solar system he became just a floating dead body in space

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

That's not how that works

[@cambamslam3510]

​@Jake Leviathan In the multiverse?No.

[@manavudgirkar3345]

goddamn the art in this comic is insane

[@purpkoi5481]

I wonder why there is a sudden change in styles tho but i agree

[@lesigh3410]

It's the one thing I can say without a doubt is great about the comic.

[@UltimateSpiderMan]

Reminds me of Max Payne

[@محمودمحمد-ر8ج2ك]

Ong

[@joshuagraham2843]

@@UltimateSpiderMan naah its like the boys but more realistic okay you’re right it is max payne 1

[@urahara64360]

I do think it's interesting that there actually appears to be no magic in this universe. All the magic based heroes are just insane people.

[@theshakespearencow1945]

i would definetly like to see what happened to doctor strange in this video

[@MAGNUSWAKERS]

@@theshakespearencow1945 I can come up with a simple yet effective one - Doctor Strange in the RUINS universe is a doctorate of phyiscs and upon inventing interdimensional travel, he accidently exposes himself to the field inadvertently proving teleportation but killing himself via quantum displacement.

[@saftoguy2133]

@@theshakespearencow1945 he probably just is the same as he was in his backstory, a sad, broken surgeon who cant do what he loves anymore because his hands are destroyed

[@Some2somewhere]

I'd be willing to bet that in ruins, Nepal is in a religious purging and completely ruined the school of mystic arts cause of heresy and witchcraft, or that the school of mystic arts is some king of murder sect that completely brainwashed strange or straight out killed him.

[@d.n5287]

@@MAGNUSWAKERS or he just dies in his car crash like how Daredevil got killed by his radioactive truck.

[@lucky_shot5989]

Its so creepy how peters disease is meant to look like his spider suit in a way.

[@Delsin42]

There's actually a canonically reason for that

[@snipingsussy6684]

Jjaden1277, what’s the reason?

[@marcussantos4816]

I just noticed that on his arm and when his hand is in the same gesture when he’s about to shoot a web.

[@lucky_shot5989]

@@marcussantos4816 yeah I realized that to. Weird

[@TheProphetLot]

@@lucky_shot5989 yeah

[@crimsondynamo615]

I feel if Thanos existed in Ruins his attempt at doing the snap just ends in the entire universe being destroyed.

[@Zminator1986]

Probably this Thanos became a leader of a death cult and either went in a goose chase for the infinity stones that don't exist or he finds them but upon getting them all together in the gauntlet vaporized him and his cult due to a power serge or something.

[@bubwubs9532]

Tbh with the theme of Ruins in mind when Thanos was born his society probably didn’t accept him and his differences like they do in the main continuity. They probably studied and experimented on him just like the government with banner.

[@shinygekkouga52]

I imagine he would find the stones with no resistance, but the energy they emit when he uses them kills him before he puts this world out of its misery

[@inactivcanalnouindescriere7860]

Or his mother succesfully killed him.

[@iamthemouse4483]

"I call it a mercy."

[@stevencooper564]

Warren Ellis. The man who hates superheroes more than almost anyone else on earth. Also, Silver Surfer wasn't destroyed from the inside out. He felt like he was suffocating because he no longer needed to breathe, so he ripped his own chest open in a desperate attempt to get air in his lungs. This book is grim as hell.

[@TawakeBaka]

Funny thing is, that Charles had no problems with his powers, he just can control them and become President, but Erik cannot. Also, scene in prison is very heartbreaking, my poor boy Quicksilver got his hand and legs cut off.

[@stevencooper564]

@@TawakeBaka He and Kitty were heartbreaking.

[@TawakeBaka]

@@stevencooper564 Yep. That was hard to watch. Also Jean and Logan. Like, slowly decaying, hardcore shit. I think worse of this is Bruce destiny. He is a giant tumor, but still alive.

[@elfascisto6549]

Garth Ennis is worse

[@juliiju0484]

I don't really think he hates superheroes that much. There are writers who have done worse things to superheroes just because they had the chance to write them. Garth Ennis is the classic example, but his time on the Punisher and Nick Fury caused a lot of controversy with Marvel, to the point where George Clooney had to say no to a Nick Fury movie because of the horrible things Fury did in the comic.

[@navalends8968]

I love how fundamentally wrong the world of Marvel Ruins are. Whenever someone almost achieved greatness and become either superhero or supervillain, they instead become something else that could, realistically, go wrong if depicted in more realistic lenses.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

lol I don't know why early marvel writers thought radiation was a power up, it would horrifically rot you from the inside out period

[@Knightlaw]

@@MGrey-qb5xz must likely because at the time it was the easiest way to explain powers without saying that they were an alien or something.

[@aydenroman6329]

Pretty much lol, quicksilver literally went so fast his limbs fell apart

[@navalends8968]

@@MGrey-qb5xz Now gamma radiation is a magic power granted to those who attained it by basically Satan, it's as funny as it sounds

[@navalends8968]

@@aydenroman6329 True, realistically speedster is so fragile even running at the speed of top speed car will destroy their body in a matter of seconds. Maybe it's the reason why they required a secondary power to mitigate the side effects

[@RaixsOreh]

Just for some people's information: Ruins was actually released as a sort of dark reflection, a parody, of the Comic Miniseries "Marvels", which is a magnificent 4-issue short story depicting the entire 616 Marvel Comic Universe from the point of view of a regular civilian, a reporter named Phil Sheldon. it's actually a really great miniseries and I always recommend that all fans should read this at least once in their life time. So yeah, if you're thinking, this is just so obviously trying to be edgy and dark, you're right! it's just supposed to be a sort of joke story parodying a better story. Ruins didn't even get 4 issues like Marvels did, it only got 2 issues. that should tell you how seriously you should take this story.

[@DarkPascual]

I've read Ruins (friends recommendation), but never read Marvels (I'm a bit more of a DC guy), so I guess I'll search for it. Sounds like Marvel's response to Kingdom Come.

[@RaixsOreh]

@@DarkPascual actually funny thing, Kingdom Come and Marvels' Art were both handled by Alex Ross! so if you loved Kingdom Come, You'll love Marvels. also: if anything, Kingdom Come is DC's answer to Marvels, as Marvels was Published in 1994 and Kingdom Come was in 1996. but they're both amazing comics. The Main Difference between the two is more of how the story is laid out, as Marvels is more of a throwback to the history of Marvel, while Kingdom Come is like looking forward, since it deals with the future.

[@Lookathisshiteatinggrin]

@@RaixsOreh i think i will take this comic very seriously, think you for the information bro 👍

[@Mr_Flerb]

@@DarkPascual Other way around. Marvels came first, Kingdom Come rode the coattails.

[@rayres1074]

Okay, if this is the case then it's a VERY important piece of context that OP should not have missed when describing the story. Poor research it seems.

[@Alvinnator28]

I don't know why, but galactus floating in space dead is the funniest thing ever.

[@Shadow30.]

Like let him hill god damn

[@alexkyrylivk5102]

Peak comedy 😄

[@reggyjohnson9083]

Eh hem Marvel Zombies Dark resurrection

[@anirudhashok3332]

is THAT a JoJO REFERENCE

[@elguerotapatio9258]

Honestly ye, like Silver Surfer really fucked up missing all those planets lmao

[@СергейШевелюга]

Although this world is designed to be a mirror image of the original 616 universe, it is also the most realistic. All these bites by mutated animals, exposure to gamma radiation, and exposure to cosmic radiation could not lead to anything but a painful death ... Or suffering worse than death. I'm glad for Ben (the thing), at least somewhere he was lucky and he remained a man and did not suffer ... unlike the others. And all because he thought of refusing to fly with them on this crazy mission.

[@willnorman-bargo]

It does somewhat seem to imply that if Ben was there they would have become the normal fantastic four.

[@СергейШевелюга]

@@willnorman-bargo Or he would have died a horrific death just as well. The question here is not whether they would become the classic Fantastic Four with Ben, but whether they would escape the rays of cosmic radiation. If not, I'm sure nothing good would come of it anyway. Here the whole irony is that Ben in the original universe, due to his transformation, turned into a monster and suffered from it. Of course, this is not Banner turned into an abomination with a bunch of cancerous tumors, but the fact is that where the miraculous abilities of other heroes turned into a terrible nightmare, he avoided it and remained normal. Good for him.

[@parknplay8328]

He is suffering survivors guilt daily, you can tell he thinks he could have prevented it had he been there.

[@theauthor6669]

@@СергейШевелюга the whole reason they OD'd on cosmic rays with Doom was because he couldn't do it in time, Doom was a fucking nerd. Grimm was an airforce pilot with lots of experience, it's heavily implied that the reason everything went to shit was because Grimm had common sense.

[@NothingHereForYou]

Seems like an awful read. Like it’s comical the level of bad things happening in it. Really try hard, like “the Hulk got irradiated then he blew up all over a bunch of orphans and gave them aids then the orphans grew up to be meth heads and blew out their brains. I started laughing when it went from Cap feeding Fury human meat then hooker Jane came out then Fury shot himself

[@eciyahsmalls-sanders8880]

Fun fact the wiki states It's implied that Ben Grimm's refusal to pilot Reed Richards' spaceship to study cosmic rays, the event that would've created the Fantastic Four, was the catalyst for this dark Earth. Though judging by Nick Fury's comments about Captain America teaching him to eat human flesh (i.e. "cannibalism") during World War II, this may also have been the event that created this dark reality/Earth.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

FF were the first hero family so them being the catalist for it all to go wrong makes sense IMHO.

[@wolvewick4414]

@@obsidianfrost9514 captain america events was first than ff. your comment makes no sense.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

@@wolvewick4414 it's implied but who knows how and when or even why. The universe was wrong, and even with a rogue cap the FF could of been the nail that sealed the universes fate. Hell Galactus died and floated in space

[@juliiju0484]

@@wolvewick4414 It wouldn't make much sense in continuity, but it would make meta sense. The Fantastic Four made Marvel exist, and while Captain America was successful in the golden age of comics, he wouldn't have come back if Marvel hadn't been saved by the Fantastic Family. Still, as I always say, never trust the wiki *too* much.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@wolvewick4414 Captain was first…but it’s the FF that Marvel owes everything to

[@natratcritter]

The horrific art style adds to the tragedy. The stencle shading and realistic detailed faces are distorted in the worst possible way making it seem like everyone is in the maximum amount of discomfort. This was really depressing to watch but I always have had the thought of what Marvel heroes would look like if they had the "bad ending".

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

There's also a Valkyrie flying by the window when Phil is on the plane with Mystique. That is perhaps the single little bit of hope for this desperate and hurting universe

[@iamthemouse4483]

And then she gets eaten alive by crows.

[@greenpiersystem]

Based on the fact that Valkyries are supposed to lead people back to the afterlife so they can fight another day, I don't think that's really a good sign as it is a "well, this is shitty, but at least we can pull people out of the rubble and get them to somewhere nicer."

[@iamthemouse4483]

@@greenpiersystem Accept in this universe, they actually drag them to hell.

[@vsgfilmgroup]

@@iamthemouse4483 They're all on drugs. The hallucinations are making them bring back the worst possible people. At the final battle of Valhalla, all there is is a bunch of elderly women and cancer patients with swords. Every Norse god is eaten by Yggdrasil, and this reality falls apart. Meanwhile, The Batman Who Laughs suffers a massive rectal prolapse, and his last words are "I loved you, Two-Face."

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

Marvel ruins would make for the perfect stand alone R rated movie

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

@@christianosanjo if the writing is good this could work

[@daveninava]

Remember that one show Yeah It could be awesome and Dark In the same time

[@Skullei]

you don't even need the same actors. just similar ones

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

@@Skullei yeah lol

[@gunilive781]

disney would never

[@samuelshaw7730]

Weird how things like mutations, Galactus, Silver surfer, etc. are adapted pretty faithfully but simply had sad endings while characters like Thor and Ghostrider are these weird real world edge lord adaptations. There's some interesting ideas here but the inconsistency is kind of distracting and makes me wonder what the point of it all is. The art is nice though. Also, no mention of how Phil Sheldon is the protagonist of Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross's Marvels series? It's a really great read

[@СергейШевелюга]

It is a mirror image of the 616 universe. If everything is fine there, the heroes win, and mutations give amazing super-abilities, then everything is bad here, mutations bring only suffering and painful death. There was even a phrase, for every light there is darkness. The meaning of the comic is to show this mirror world and it is so terrible precisely because of the way the original universe is. Interestingly, being a reflection, this universe is the most realistic.

[@samuelshaw7730]

@@СергейШевелюга No I get the idea, I'm saying that the execution is inconsistent and cheapens it. Thor is just a mentally insane normal man but Galactus is still a giant planet consuming purple space-being, he's just dead? There's nothing wrong with making a "dark" version of these stories, but it feels like they didn't put more thought into it than that

[@BNK2442]

@@samuelshaw7730 One of the first painels has Thor's hammer. I think some painels also show Valkaries, so it is possible that there is more than one Thor in this incarnation.

[@BNK2442]

@@samuelshaw7730 The most edge part of the comic is the Nick Fury, he shoots some people just because and then commits suicide. These things apart, I was invested in the world and I wanted to know why that universe 'went bad.' (I don't think Ellis has an answer, though. He probably just made the concept and went from there.)

[@crazylegoids9227]

@@samuelshaw7730 i think it might be the same origin story as the MCU, with Thor being banished from Asgard and forced onto Earth. It would make sense that people would just think he's crazy in that case. Even darker, we can assume Loki took the throne

[@educkwithfedora8399]

I find it fascinating that Ben was the only hero in this story that didn't went insane or died terribly, kinda contrasting with his fate in the 616 universe where he was the only one of the Fantastic Four who had his appearance permanently altered by the cosmic radiation and was the one that suffered the most with his powers out of the group

[@michaelaudreymyers7720]

I was really hoping that Phil would make the story. That was such a twist and sad ending.

[@classit8248]

Same it made me sad

[@TygerHillis]

And its even sadder that no one stopped and read his notes either

[@CyberneticStreetrunner]

This is literally if Garth Ennis was allowed to make a Marvel Comic

[@Facade953]

This is actually darker and more depressing than The Boys and even Marvel Zombies.

[@kendi5391]

Didn't he write the Punisher kills Marvel Universe?

[@dootrevenant5886]

@Zer0 just make every superhero a racist/pedophile and boom, it's a Garth Ennis story

[@DefinitelyNotATrolldier]

Correction He would just make another The Boys

[@dreamyliamy2537]

Ive read both this and a mix of good and bad ennis comics, this comic is written nothing like any ennis comic ive read lol

[@Linken062478]

The spookiest part about Galactus floating around Mars is that he was so close to Earth before he evidently starved to death.

[@GYPHIST]

I thought that he was just headed our direction and then died halfway, leaving his body to just float towards us but that seems alot more grim and I luv it lol

[@theproginator5800]

good lord,imagine just getting out of bed then u saw a DEAD galactus floating out of space

[@God-vl8qo]

Start a go fund me to send people to space to fetch his body so that we may feast on his cosmic flesh.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

I would definitely hate to live in the Ruins if that ever happened. Time to hop off to another universe.

[@alixer2890]

@@God-vl8qo Bro didn't Marvel Zombies prove that exploring mysterious Galactus Corpses only leads to what can universally be classified as bad news bears?

[@somegoodsoup7008]

Typical day in Ohio

[@SemISkUIZTheRaccoonSpider1st]

Remind us so much of his upcoming future corpse later seen in Marvel Zombies Resurrection.

[@zzamorano1717]

The scene with the punisher shot dead, while tragic is shockingly realistic and not too far off thematically. Here you have is a man of the law who had lost his family from the mob and now he devotes his life on a violent path of vengeance, vowing to destroy all those who "wronged" him. Even when he eventually eliminates his enemies his continues on his futile quest for "justice" and due his past and his current actions he can never even attempt return to a normal life. By abandoning his principles and disregarding due process and innocence till proven guilty, he becomes the very thing he is trying to get rid of. A broken man like Frank Castle is more of less destined to die like that.

[@seaseaseaseaseaseaseasea]

i love dark comics but this one genuinely feels way too edgy, art is amazing though

[@Lookathisshiteatinggrin]

the edgy parts are bast moments in this comic in my opinion

[@_Dawson_]

Yeah, it felt a little tryhard.

[@lemone12]

Idk I wouldn't call it "edgy"(it is) but some parts felt kinda boring and predictable

[@HUNTR11]

Some of its good but stuff like iron man just becoming a serial killer is a bit out of the blue and seems like it was just trying to be edgy

[@icehoof]

"By the way, captain America made me a canable" *shoots Jean Grey who is a prostitute * Refuses to elaborate * Kills self This feels AI generated

[@Quietnotsilent_Nights]

I woulda expected the punisher to be kinda the same in ruins. His life was already fucked up

[@TawakeBaka]

I'm not shocked by it. He had so many enemies. And in reality its really easy to get shoot.

[@brunowillich1837]

He had it better in this timeline if anything. He was finally put out of his misery.

[@bk7064]

I like how the one time Ben Grimm (The Thing) finally doesn't suffer an awful fate, it's in a world of pure chaos for everyone else. The single instance you could say he caught a break, it HAD to be in a world where everyone else suffered. Love the poetic shift there.

[@ashtonchane6126]

And people thought the Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) was depressing.

[@mythomniverse]

Fr man this universe is the most depressing and disturbing. Specially Hulk and Spiderman. Hulk had became a huge collection of tumors and still alive suffering pain. And Peter who was a normal happy kid student and the cancer he got was painful asf and also changed the way he looked and made him look horrible and SCARY as a demon. Imagine the pain both physically and mentally. imagine being thrown from house and people avoiding you because you look like a monster but once looked like normal humans living life

[@miracon000fez]

@@mythomniverse to add insult to injury he literally looks like his suit

[@DioBrando-ej6gb]

@@miracon000fez Which made it much more disturbing it's like the suit melted onto his skin

[@miracon000fez]

@@DioBrando-ej6gb plus the way he holds that sheet around him makes his hands look like he's shooting webs, I feel like the creator of the comic just put that there to completely traumatise Spider-man fans

[@DioBrando-ej6gb]

@@miracon000fez true lmao

[@leobehan7611]

Wanda being a soul survivor of the avengers after being granted immunity is the scariest thing knowing that her brother is out there mutilated and dying

[@poneywrecker4565]

Funny cause its the opposite story of MARVEL written by kurt busiek and penciled by the legend itself alex ross so even the way the panel are made are kind of a reflection of what marvel look like. (Amazing book btw). Really interesting concepts on the marvel. Great video! Keep it up!

[@latinogamer1012]

Marvel could definitely write a horror story if they wanted to. It's nice to see a dark take on the marvel universe done right. That being said who tf hurt these writers like they got to be really messed up.

[@mariajosebravo5889]

*DareDevil seen marval ruin matt* DareDevil saying: holy shit we both Dead marval ruin matt: hehe my Timesline my Frank ls Die too DareDevil saying: Nooooooooooo

[@theclaw8299]

to think that the ending of infinity Wars destroyed me, to see this story come to life would break my heart even more

[@ryan.1990]

Utter man child

[@con106]

I read this comic for the first time today. I’ve read my dad’s trade copy of Marvels many times throughout my life, so upon learning that there was a What If story for it, I had to read it. I expected something dark, but I didn’t expect this. This makes Marvel Zombies look like Adam West era Batman. It was just flat out depressing, seeing all the heroes I grew up with reimagined as withered, rotting, hollow shells of beings. And the returning art style of the original story made the body horror elements all the more horrifying. While I found this to be an interesting read and recommend it to anyone who’s a fan of Marvel, Marvels, horror, and alternate universe story’s I felt emotionally drained after reading it. I may re-read Marvels again as a palate cleanser.

[@Lazulilyy]

The art style is absolutely incredible, the begginning of the comic being cleaner as we've not been introduced to the terrors of this world, but as the story progresses and the more and more we learn, the more grotesque the art style becomes.

[@cookies23z]

the only downside of this is that is feels... forced? I get the concept is what if everything went wrong, but for it all to happen so close together that one reporter can be there for all of it... idk but a cool world is there

[@espernova228]

Like Jean, Mystic just casually die in front of him

[@Deibodese]

This is a very Souls-like story. Everything is as bad as possible. The whole world is dying. It’s all slowly collapsing into decay. It’s all gradually succumbing to madness. And there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it.

[@Devon.with.an.i]

Awesome video. I’d love some more longer videos like this. You always cover great stories. I especially like the depressing/dark ones. Keep sticking with what you think is good. You got good taste 🤙🏻

[@angelu_lwqv]

And remember kids: Darkness on its own doesn't automatically make your story any good, it just makes you look like an edgy teenager.

[@Lookathisshiteatinggrin]

Like my 😅🥺

[@Lookathisshiteatinggrin]

I think I've been like this forever, pray for me please 🥺❤️

[@ilvanasgobero8096]

I think The reason this universe is interesting is because we know what It COULD have been like, but yeah it's pretty edgy

[@spidey5558]

Coughcough the Bois coughcough

[@kadenbaio9758]

@@spidey5558 The comic for sure but the show has moments of people being good and giving hope that things will get better.

[@ItsTheRemixaa]

I actually didn't like this comic qnd this is coming froma guy who loves reading dark comics. This comic is just dark for the sake of being dark

[@CyberneticStreetrunner]

I agree with you here man,it’s like the ending of The Boys’ comic,it feels dark just to be dark and sorta seems spiteful

[@mr.reject9576]

Yeah I agree it was somehow to dark

[@samjasek1755]

It’s a great premise but it’s like the comic version of DCs apocalypse war movie

[@devinward461]

Yeah, it just seems like it's going for shock value rather than trying to make any meaningful point

[@thebush6379]

The only thing I think would give it meaning is if Phillip got to write his book. But nope, it's clear that the writers just want to create the embodiment of despair

[@M0V1NG]

If everything goes wrong in that universe, how’d they even get past the stone age?

[@abdalln8554]

Thrugg invent wheel, get run over. Mung invent farming, die of food poisoning. Wurt invent pants, get super cancer.

[@westondickinson5309]

Another universes heros should get transported there and see if they can make a difference for however long they are there

[@Shadow30.]

They woudl 1: die 2: can't make a difrence 3: they do somethink

[@synthysynthy]

I wonder how that would go.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

That universe is dead. So I doubt they would make it

[@westondickinson5309]

@@obsidianfrost9514 well the universe never had actual heroes so if it had actual Thor and people like that I'm sure it might have been better. Or worse who knows it could be good or bad if they went there and a third felt like going punisher on someone after he sees how hopeless it is.

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Just like our universe, we kill all our heroes.

[@jacob7027]

I honestly think this one is really tryhard. It feels like marvel were really trying to ape the style of Grant Morrison’s Arkham Asylum with the hand painted style and the whole dark, psychological tone but it just doesn’t really work for me. It tries to be really serious and gritty but it just comes across as over the top, the Alien Gulag and the cannibalism just felt like too much to me.

[@vincentadultman6226]

Yeah, tryhard really is the best description. Even Dark Knights Metal wasn't this edgy lol, and even the Kingdom Come and that one batman comic (Arkham Asylum ) make sense with regard to the characters and their motivations, this just feels like Marvel's attempt at DKM but they only had the budget for one comic Curious about the fate of Dr Strange in this universe, though it's probably going to be him performing horrific experiments on his patients to achieve his "third eye" ala Hellraiser or red skull

[@devinward461]

Agreed, it seemed like it was this dark just for the sake of being dark

[@ridleyjack9350]

I mean... it's called "Marvel Ruins"

[@beansya8967]

Fr like you’re Marvel Comics not Stephen King

[@chiyo-chanholocaust8143]

Either "tryhard" or "exploitative"

[@casual_villain]

Maybe the Deadpool of this universe, just looks like himself from X-Men Origins. Truly a fate worse than death.

[@jaycue7641]

I find it interesting that this is the world where Ben Grimm avoids his fate of becoming the Thing. Imagine the psychological toll seeing yourself in that form everyday and being called by the codename "The Thing." Truthfully, every other universe is the one where Ben suffers. In this one, he laments how all his friends perished.

[@MJ-mu3kb]

this story is how i feel about the current state of marvel.

[@alexkyrylivk5102]

Except this comic is great

[@sidekic1109]

@@alexkyrylivk5102 he's referring to the part that everything is dying and in shambles

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

Yeah cheap adaptions of famous comic story lines for mcu fans and general comic story line of woke marvel.

[@brainsteroids8043]

@@MGrey-qb5xz "woke" doesn't have anything to do with marvel's downfall. Bad writing isn't "woke". Grow up.

[@brainsteroids8043]

@Rainbow Rattle Twerking isn't really woke either.

[@magolormemes7519]

There is still hope for this timeline. Doctor Doom(no way he's down that easy), the infinity stones, the watchers, and, if there lucky, someone from another universe will find them.

[@thisguy1640]

Even as a bundle of minerals in a world where nothing does or should go right, Doctor Doom will find a way. Doctor Doom *always* finds a way.

[@quantum6888]

Doom was in the F4 trip. The reason why things went wrong was because Ben refused to go and Víctor took his place

[@Nixx1.0]

doom died

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

huh?

[@iamthemouse4483]

Doctor Strange is probably either evil, dead, insane, or being tortured and experimented on and also probably can't do magic, no one's probably ever heard of the Infinity Stones, the watchers don't generally do anything, and if someone from another universe does show up here, they'll probably explode immediately or something.

[@Ahmadabdal_]

This is hitting levels of edgy i didn't think exist. Maybe if it was done down a couple of levels it would be so much better The art is insane though

[@anontwentytwo1380]

You don't know what edgy means and how to use is properly

[@questionablegreg4684]

@@anontwentytwo1380 cope

[@Ahmadabdal_]

@@anontwentytwo1380 enlighten me please

[@clnblk7773]

​@@Ahmadabdal_ define "edgy"

[@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617]

@@clnblk7773 anon twentytwo

[@theoemile2477]

My theory is that Donald Blake was actually Thor, but nobody believed him and he ended up as a wretch as a result...

[@Lutherstrode17492]

Or it was Loki who caused that. Or maybe it was because Odin banished him to Earth, and Thor developed amnesia

[@RaccoonRevolution]

There was one thing that always kinda bugged me. Why would Peter need to take a job at the Bugle in a world where Ben was still alive? In most continuities, the only reason that job even stuck out to him was that they wanted pictures of Spider-Man. Also I wish Ellis had taken the time to hint at what was going on with Xavier. Like, I've read enough X-Men to take a guess and feel pretty confident in it, but still.

[@echo9932]

Probably just took the job because, yknow, it's a job, and he was unemployed. There wasn't mention of his uncle Ben having passed, but it's Marvel and one of the golden rules is "if there's a Peter Parker, there's a dead uncle Ben"

[@Trenaime]

Isnt xavier become president?

[@a-cygnus]

It's a world with no plot armor. If I had read this as a child, probably even as a teen, chances are I would have been scarred by it. This is such a twisted story but it's the art especially that drives it home. Looks like Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark.

[@zanethezaniest274]

Ironman becoming a serial killer feels like a cheap cop-out tbh, it would have made sense that when Tony escaped he’d increase his weapons production to wipe out the terrorist that captured him, but it inadvertently leads to another nuclear arms race.

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

Actually what happened to iron man is never clarified, all we know is he got betrayed by scarlet witch and then went up in smoke

[@TheOneWhoShushes]

Ironman was wounded trying to deescalate the Californian successionist and the us by the us. Due to this he back up the successionist and and their scientists making the avengers a terrorist organization. Hence why they were shot down

[@JohnWall-lj1mx]

Him being a serial killer is so out of nowhere it would be more believable if he was wanted for selling weapons to terrorist groups

[@RsDynastyDukeVids]

I believe that the doctor is actually Thor whom was stripped of his powers and forced to live a life as a feeble civilian with a has been past and had gone crazy not being able to pursue his destiny.

[@acoverdc9272]

Thanos would be working overtime if he saw this earth

[@thesupershinymegagengar2034]

Thanos would probably never stop vomiting if he saw this.

[@Some2somewhere]

Thanos is probably dead because he most likely managed to bone lady death. Comic Thanos have no chill about saving life, he just want to kill to impress lady death.

[@TheChckster]

@@Some2somewhere He most likely didn't, death does not like him in the slightest. She even tried to kill him

[@Unknown-hb3id]

In this universe, Thanos is just some alien bodybuilder that ate too much purple food coloring, did a load of "Infinity" drugs, and went into a catatonic state after committing a terrorist act or something.

[@austinreed7343]

The result: Thanos snaps away one half of every organism in the universe, finally killing it, slowly and painfully.

[@Vulzie]

"hey you know this character what if their power: but it killed them and they were a bad person."

[@mrkingdrago1013]

Oh I remember this... this is one of the worst Universe.. ever in marvel right after Zombies and Ultimate Universe.. but there could be worse and that's interesting

[@scaviii1]

And also punisher kills marvel

[@СергейШевелюга]

In fact, this is the worst universe only for those who should become heroes, miracles. In the same marvel zombies humanity was slaughtered, in many parallel universes the apocalypse happened.... But here, without any superheroes and supervillains, the world lives as it used to live, even Galactus himself died a step away from salvation. This world doesn't need heroes, it's fine as it is. And it is not much worse than ours.

[@videoms1271]

@@СергейШевелюга the world is literally dying bro wdym 💀

[@СергейШевелюга]

@@videoms1271 No. This world is no different from ours in general terms. The only thing that dies are those who were supposed to be heroes and villains. From the fact that Magneto, Spider-Man and many others died painfully, the world has not changed in any way. Even the problem with aliens like the Kree and Galactus invaders was resolved without heroes.

[@antogno4625]

@@СергейШевелюга not only humanity, the entire universe died.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

There isn’t really a story here. It’s just a tour through the writer’s edgy Marvel AU.

[@nicholasmahoney7820]

That’s exactly what this is. It doesn’t feel like it’s trying to actually tell a story or make a point. It just feels more like an excuse to be as ridiculously dark, edgy, graphic, and depressing as possible, and I don’t like that mentality.

[@sethstoll8525]

@@nicholasmahoney7820 the artwork is fuckin baller though

[@joshwist556]

@@lesshuman00 except the book was never finished due to him getting Radioactive AIDs. So yes, there is no story to it aside seeing misery porn of your favorite heroes.

[@sr.brigadeiro7718]

@@joshwist556 yep

[@ChakkyCharizard]

The whole thing was basically written to be as over the top and dumb as possible so yea

[@redjirachi1]

This comic is so edgy I got a papercut just from watching a video about it

[@Lookathisshiteatinggrin]

😂😂😂 good one 🤣

[@Reedanimzthestupe]

The comic is absolutely crushing just seeing your favorite superheros mistreated and in constant pain and agony everything that was supposed to go wrong just went wrong The most soul crushing scenes were that of Peter. A very friendly and helpful student in one panel brightly smiling and in the other he's just a skinless cancer. That look of despair on his face and how he's holding that blanket will just stick with me for a while it's kind of traumatic to see

[@atomato5378]

"Now Washington D.C. is known for drugs, crime, and havoc" my man it's always been that way, D.C. has always been the city where the poor get poorer and the rich make a penny off it. Its rough as hell.

[@akaCAM.]

That’s actually the hardest ending of all time. This universe was so messed up that the story wasn’t even told in the first place 😂

[@BlooJellyZ]

The amount of effort and detail that went into every page is inspiring

[@Ermwhatthesigma11780]

I like how no one’s talking about the way one of the soldiers was able to pick up Thors hammer like nothing

[@Lilmonky69]

I think it's because in this world he doesn't exist and it's just a hammer

[@rey_2860]

@@Lilmonky69 think that was the actual thor just without any powers and hes just holding that 'normal' hammer

[@Lilmonky69]

@@rey_2860 epic sauce

[@kadenbaio9758]

@@rey_2860 He literally says that it isn't actually Thor, just some doctor

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

@@kadenbaio9758 Thor is a doctor who got powers in the comics.

[@samael978]

I'm just curious about the Captain America and eating human meat part, like, what? Was he a POW and forced into cannibalism and kept going after?

[@Air_Serpent]

I figured it's something like the cartels doing cannibalism- to fuck around and cause damage

[@changvasejarik62]

I always got the impression that this is only part of some cosmic horror story. Something like that episode of the twilight zone where astronauts survived against all odds and slowly they’re erased one by one with no trace by a force beyond their understanding. Hell I maintain a theory about ruins that there is a beyonder whispering thoughts into people and making things worse, and that beyonder would look like warren Ellis.

[@joshuadepaz6659]

Quicksilver had me in shock like wtf

[@Kaiser-x7v]

I mean it make sense how his legs and arms couldnt handle his very fast speed.

[@whatyousee3225]

"god found dead in space"

[@raging100]

I get what the story is doing, but you know when somebody says: without evil there is no good? The same goes for this story. Its ONLY torture and suffering and it makes it all...repetative. And it doesn't impact the same way when every single character is tragic and suffers. It's just too much, too often.

[@nicholasoneal1521]

It knows what it is though. It works for a two issue story

[@henry2168]

damn this one hell of a story, just hearing it summarized and with the hint of its imagery it almost makes me want to cry.

[@clbaker8356]

Warren Ellis wrote this soon after his Hellstorm run and it was marvel's attempt to make it's own Vertigo type imprint. The Last Avengers Story was another from this imprint

[@stavros9849]

bro just hit us with the darkest marvel story ever and then asked if we liked it. Yes. Yes I did.

[@feeble_goblin3764]

Just goes to show that in an alternate universe, that you, yes you. Could be like these people i take this story as a be thankful for what you got kinda story

[@thesupershinymegagengar2034]

Agreed.

[@HenryMayor37]

This is the most depressing one I've ever seen....

[@brandonhall4631]

Good job. Based on your video and the more realistic outcomes of mutants based in the story I'm going to add this comic to my collection.

[@bruvlodski317]

Imagine this is a plot twist where it's revealed that none of any marvel thing happened and it's all just dreams this guy has been having after wishing for wondrous marvels that make the world a better place.

[@SavageNinjaWookie]

I smiled when you said he dreamed of the heroes they could have been

[@JayLiszte]

Basically this is what Garth Ennis wanted to do for the boys but realized he wanted to tell a story that instead humiliated them.

[@numerousncomicsandlegos6780]

Thanks for ruining my childhood Warren Ellis

[@JungéShikisanki]

“Welp, like that’s ever gonna happen.” *Closes book£ Somebody once told me-

[@JulietJ.Maclean]

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[@symbiotesoda1148]

The art for this was INCREDIBLE.

[@thetitanhater]

So, in this universe: Captain America: Eats human flesh. Iron man: Became a Serial Killer. Wolverine: Gets a bone disease and is destined to die. Punisher: Gets killed. Silver Surfer: Exploded. Galatcus: Died of hunger. Cree Warriors: Living in the worst conditions. Black Panther: Sent to jail. Hawkeye: Executed in public. Nick Fury: Gave up in everything. Dark Pheonix: Becomes a hooker. Bruce Banner: Becomes a tumor monster, destined to suffer. Darkholme: Kills herself. Magneto: Becomes a hippie. Professor X: Tortures mutants. Cyclops: Got his eyes burned, getting tortured. Nightcrawler: Getting tortured, most likely dying of hunger. Quicksilver: Got all his limbs cut off, being tortured. Thor: is just a crazy doctor. Jhonny Blaze: Died by putting his head on fire, screaming as he used the motorcycle. Reeds: Died of cosmic radiaton, wich made him stretch to death. Jhonny Storm: Got burned to a molecular level. Suzan Storm: Died of cosmic radiaton. Peter Parker: Got a disease from the spider, that will eventually kill everyone that touches him. I thought that Zombies and Ultimate were alr dark asf, but this universe is something else. Everything is destined to fail.

[@oceanpark_5211]

Emma frost : still Emma frost

[@Zebra_fandomfella03]

Princess python: does illegal stuff with her python Rick jones and Marlo Chandler : Morphine addicts Daredevil: died from chemicals that blinded him Bucky,Sabertooth, and Nomad: are fascist cannibals Kingpin: warden of a mutant prison Daimon Hellstrom: has a fistula

[@noiwvernsonic1358]

Oh horror of horrors! He became a *HIPPIE*?????!!!!!!!

[@thetitanhater]

@@noiwvernsonic1358 Yeah, pretty scary.

[@doomerzoomer1202]

This is just typical day in Chicago

[@pillow1557]

That handsome looking Hulk has been haunting me in my dream for a few days

[@esk8er900]

The coloration looks like legit watercolor and it’s beautifully depressing.

[@Pariah_Larry]

Man the art is terrifying and beautiful

[@Kagarin05]

The art reminds me so much of scary stories to tell in the dark!

[@GrandmazSlippers]

the beautiful style of this really adds so much depth to the story

[@cb-9938]

The way the Mutants are kept in a prison for experiments is sadly the most realistic part of the comic

[@travonmcintyre9809]

Thank you for finally talking about marvel ruins

[@DarkPascual]

I love dark and gritty stories as much as the uplifting ones and I'm a big fan of Warren Ellis' work. But this one particularly strikes me as misery p*rn, depressing for the sake of depressing. The art is great, but the story is not for me.

[@jamiemanning4944]

Couldn't agree more. I loved Castlevania so I was excited to hear Warren Ellis wrote this but this wasn't it.

[@Cam-zv1jq]

I’ve always thought this comic would be awesome if we got it in the MCU!!A stand-alone 1 shot/what if?

[@Devon.with.an.i]

That’d be so sick, but the MCU would completely ruin the comic and tone down a lot of it. Maybe some day :/

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

No

[@looniemoonie5955]

Too dark for MCU. They couldn't make a serious Marvel Zombies episode, it was filled with jokes.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@looniemoonie5955 bruh the actual marvel zombies from the comics still gives me nightmares as an adult, the imagery , the voices , the horrific distortions of your beloved heroes haunts me.

[@MrJonezy541]

The same MCU which awkwardly shoehorns jokes every 10 seconds in its films? Yeah I'd rather they didn't touch this, they would just ruin it.

[@crazyguyethan1848]

This really is just the Flashpoint of Marvel But even Flashpoint had heroes.

[@garrettgoss2691]

I can not get enough of the art from this series. It's twisted in a gorgeous way

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

This is what the Marvel Heroes would be like in our world.

[@daymnieljoe8794]

"I hope you all enjoyed this video" are you trying to gaslight me?

[@regularguy2134]

Honestly this story doesn't even have a plot it's just a showcase of "How fucked up is fucked up". the art is good but its not enough to care the whole thing

[@frostsoul4199]

honestly, the art work of this comic reminds me a lot of A Serious House on Serious Earth. that art style and grim-dark setting really tie them together in my mind.

[@jcnot9712]

There's something very cartoony about this world. Kind of reminds me of The Boys comic book or even something like Dante's Inferno, where the story keeps trying to one-up itself with messed up stuff to the point where it becomes predictable. Still good that they tried something different.

[@lalalarose8197]

‘I couldn’t help but tear up a little bit’. That was unintentionally funny.

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

I know what you mean by this, and being sad. But I think it’s more hilarious and absurd. It’s like what could go wrong, does go wrong. I agree with the Mutants and Kree thing, but Johnny blaze having that as his main stunt is genius and hilarious.

[@williamaguilar5519]

Meet me in this universe Deadpool just died of cancer, moon knight probably would’ve killed himself because the voices got louder and louder , and Howard probably got hunted or died in a freak show, and uncle Ben probably would’ve still been alive

[@e-dogtherealdog3888]

I always found President x to be the creepiest. Firstly cause he never actually gets interviewed but he makes his presence in the series known just by being a horrid and vile man, who as the viewers know to be a kind and caring person. In this he’s the complete and total opposite and you don’t even see him yet I still felt sickened by his actions and the way he’s described, and that one photo of him where you can’t even see his face just is just perfect. Still sickening to read but never the less a great alternate version of the marvel universe. Cause now no matter what happens in marvel comics, it will no doubt be better than anything that happens in ruins

[@kokosjumbo6084]

3:08 glad to see that in this universe Washington DC is still the same place it's always been