DON'T LEARN SALESFORCE!!

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David K. Liu

David K. Liu

Күн бұрын

Average Salesforce salaries are $150,000 a year - but that doesn’t mean you should learn Salesforce and join this industry. Here are six reasons why you should NOT learn Salesforce.
0:00 Don't learn Salesforce
1:09 1. Competition
1:42 2. Coding
2:42 3. You hate Excel
3:34 4. You need the manual
4:12 5. People
4:40 6. Ambition
5:12 Why I love Salesforce
6:00 My recommendation
How to learn Salesforce FAST: • LEARN SALESFORCE FAST!!
What is Salesforce: • What is Salesforce (an...
Salesforce career personality test: docs.google.com/presentation/...
Salesforce administrator resources: www.sfdc99.com/2020/01/25/how...
Salesforce developer resources: www.sfdc99.com/2020/03/01/ste...

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@memmo4338
@memmo4338 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reducing my competition! Ready to goooo
@gusto1505
@gusto1505 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know squat about SF, but really want to learn. Your videos are encouraging and I love the way you explain things in an entertaining way. 👏🏼
@Kevin-cc1zj
@Kevin-cc1zj Жыл бұрын
David, first THANK YOU, for an entertaining and educational video presentation. This is my 1st ever comment on a video - tells you how much of an impact you make. As a military vet that did a little DoD IT, I am just now starting to dig into a possible future in the Salesforce community via the Hire our Heroes program. I have been pondering on pursuing Salesforce for over a week, the way you broke it down so simply was EXACTLY what I needed to hear. Side note: I also enjoyed your career personality test, gave me even more to think about. =)
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Kevin I appreciate your kind words. Hope I get to meet you at a Salesforce event sometime and shake your hand!
@Hamyhamster24
@Hamyhamster24 3 жыл бұрын
I actually love excel. Because of saleforce I am now intermediate excel user. 3 years ago, I was just a basic beginner lol.
@shawn7171
@shawn7171 3 жыл бұрын
I'm dead hopefully I scared off enough people to remove your competition. I appreciate it greatly!
@Purushoth21492
@Purushoth21492 3 жыл бұрын
David I'm a huge fan of you! I love the way how you explain a complicated topic in Simple terms, I have watched all your Plural sight videos. One unique kind of mentoring skill you got! Keep up the good work.
@patrickj.trevenen1633
@patrickj.trevenen1633 4 жыл бұрын
It’s too late for me David, I jumped in the pool 2 years ago and still love SF.
@rhaniyur
@rhaniyur 4 жыл бұрын
Your previous video popped into my feed yesterday and now I'm geeked!
@laural.rosado3747
@laural.rosado3747 3 жыл бұрын
I loved how fast you just got to it. No dragging out those points.
@ocnwspr
@ocnwspr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting the test. I got equal reds and blues. After 24 years in one position it's hard to choose which direction to move in. I wish all people who talk about their profession were as succinct and funny as you. I look forward to hearing more of your straight forward, chuckle worthy moments!
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jennifer!!! Good luck!!
@ocnwspr
@ocnwspr 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu Thank you!
@TT-ls1yz
@TT-ls1yz Жыл бұрын
Hi Jennifer, glad to see your comment. I am also in the same boat. So finally, what did you end up choosing to do? Awaiting your reply 😍 Love from this sister in Texas🌹💞
@ocnwspr
@ocnwspr Жыл бұрын
@@TT-ls1yz I did leave my job, but within a month my mother entered End Stage COPD and I ended up not getting a job but taking care of her for six months on hospice in my home. Interestingly during a casual conversation with someone I mentioned that I'd be willing to do part time work at home while my mother slept and was blessed to be matched with a boss who was looking for someone with my knowledge base to groom to take over a leadership role in Data Analytics when the current employee retires. So far I'm finding it fun and they are amazed at how little training is required. I think sometimes it's hard to see how your skills can transfer, but they can. Short story is I got lucky, I hope you do too.
@MakingMoneyWithMichael
@MakingMoneyWithMichael 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy videos where the person talking says, "I'll have links for that in the description below..." AND they actually DO put those links in! 😀👍
@soniyamulchandani429
@soniyamulchandani429 3 жыл бұрын
After college. I thought I will somehow love coding and stuff. Got my first job at an MNC, and got a Salesforce project. It's been 2 years and 4 certifications since then. But still just getting through it. And Hating everyday on the job. Wish I saw this video a couple years ahead! But this info was on point!!
@sharvisplayland9840
@sharvisplayland9840 2 жыл бұрын
Can we chat ? I'm thinking of making my carrier in Salesforce and want to discuss further
@soniyamulchandani429
@soniyamulchandani429 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharvisplayland9840 sure, hit me up on LinkedIn
@akshayauti2390
@akshayauti2390 2 жыл бұрын
@@soniyamulchandani429 can you please provide your email address, i also want to know more about salesforce
@amoghmulge
@amoghmulge 2 жыл бұрын
Why do u hate it though?
@TT-ls1yz
@TT-ls1yz Жыл бұрын
@@sharvisplayland9840 Sharvi, Did you change your career to SF?
@ramielkady938
@ramielkady938 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love SF but I need to make a choice between SF and going done the Java back end Dev rout. I love them both. Future market supply and demand from your vantage point , for both ?
@ramielkady938
@ramielkady938 4 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu Spring and react.js in huge demand. I am concerned about the future dynamics of supply and demand in SF
@chatoanil
@chatoanil 4 жыл бұрын
Now Salesforce is totally into Einstein , lot of Data Scientist out there using salesforce.. so i guess, salesforce already answered your question on why they want us to learn salesforce .. :)
@davidgiller221
@davidgiller221 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, David! Keep up the great work!
@vivekfalero9927
@vivekfalero9927 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David. I took one of your test, and it's inclined more towards admin with 7points and technical architect 6points. As you said SF developing can be learned easily. Do you think if I learn SF admin course first and than catching up with developing certification will be good .
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Either way you gotta start with admin stuff so you are on the right track!
@vivekfalero9927
@vivekfalero9927 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. For your time to reply. Appreciate it.
@david57989
@david57989 2 жыл бұрын
My employer uses Salesforce Lightning. Great video! I love your candor, no other channel on KZbin that can match yours concerning Salesforce.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 👊👊👊
@cybernerd8414
@cybernerd8414 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am new to Salesforce and currently a traiblazer on SF Admin beginner trail.
@michaelstimpson1925
@michaelstimpson1925 4 жыл бұрын
Does the interview process at google really not include a general software engineer exam for Salesforce developers?
@starman9000
@starman9000 3 жыл бұрын
Hey David, can i request you make a video on Salesforce consultant, what exactly they do? I came from Dot Net background, there they call full stack developer, he expected to be Superman! in Salesforce everything divided into different career, but when i get a call for SF developer interview they expect me to do everything from Developer , Admin task and consultant ! IT is stupid industry, they make every developer go crazy!
@anapapa2370
@anapapa2370 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it! You made me laugh :))) Now that I received a nice motivation boost, I can go back and continue the Platform Developer I course. Happy 4th of July! 🥳
@frederikwitte9406
@frederikwitte9406 2 жыл бұрын
I would also add high stress to this list. I am a certified System / Application architect and not only do you need to stay on top of all the updates and new things going on, customers and projects are very demanding. So you need to learn new things 24/7 and at the same time be super focused every minute you work, as a bug in production can cost a lot of money.
@jurajland
@jurajland 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, but what is not stressful these days? And quite often, we make our work stressful ourselves. Once negative stress surpasses the positive one and it lasts longer then it is the right time to ask whether it is worth our health and mental well-being. If not, do something about it, reduce the workload, the time spent on projects, etc. Yeah, Salesforce is bringing updates all the time, but is it really important to follow everything? A high-level picture is enough. I have so much work to do just with SF Marketing Cloud itself, can’t imagine jumping on Sales/Service/Commerce..., but yeah, I might replace the cloud in the future, who knows.
@bangbangtothemoon23
@bangbangtothemoon23 4 жыл бұрын
Hey David so then would it be impossible or close to impossible to jump from a Salesforce developer to a normal developer at a tech company? What if you were jumping into a role with an object-orientated language like Java? Do you think already working at that company would give you an advantage over candidates who were applying?
@deboman81
@deboman81 6 ай бұрын
No answer after three years because I would like to know too
@thisissam
@thisissam 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a mock junior Salesforce developer interview , especially similar to the ones at Google , it will surely help a lot of people
@Savadbin
@Savadbin 4 жыл бұрын
Yes . It would be very helpful
@SimpleThingsOne
@SimpleThingsOne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It will be helpful.
@nicwenzel1
@nicwenzel1 3 жыл бұрын
please!
@scottkirven5416
@scottkirven5416 2 жыл бұрын
I hated this video in the first 1 minute and LOVED it after the next 5. I am knee deep into re"learning" Salesforce (almost an oxymoron in a way) after being away from it for just a bit and took the chance of watching this viewpoint. David's points are thoughtful and made me full of thoughts about what I am doing, why I am doing it, etc. I think this was the first comment I ever put on a KZbin video so that tells you something :) Thanks David
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott!! 😭😭😭
@sherrysimon4361
@sherrysimon4361 4 жыл бұрын
The whole video, I kept looking at the background to locate your Golden Hoodie. Is it resting cos it's the 4th of July weekend ? ;)
@BabaDka
@BabaDka 3 жыл бұрын
My company just moved from COBOL to Salesforce so they are paying me to learn Salesforce. Anyone know what the JCL equivalent is?
@Chunkdirtylol
@Chunkdirtylol 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am just starting my journey after leaving the gaming industry as a designer. I am worried, but I now live in New Zealand where everybody has not made the switch yet to salesforce and see opportunity here.
@erickalencar1784
@erickalencar1784 2 жыл бұрын
And what about salesforce jobs right now in new zealand? I would like to move there but i don't know about the most in demand jobs
@Andybaby
@Andybaby Жыл бұрын
why leave the game industry? Isn't there another role in the games industry you can transition to?
@mrslisajckson
@mrslisajckson 2 жыл бұрын
David I'm so excited after watching this. First you made me realize that I should skip the admin certification and dive into the Developer Certification. I love excel and I am use to the grind. Thank you for giving this great insight.
@mrslisajckson
@mrslisajckson 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind. I will follow your certification guide. Thank you again.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@vasundharakandi3228
@vasundharakandi3228 2 жыл бұрын
I want know like is Salesforce development is easy or Java development could you please give me the reply
@itsreason3238
@itsreason3238 2 жыл бұрын
update?
@montecrucis7247
@montecrucis7247 Жыл бұрын
@@vasundharakandi3228 If you want an easy to learn all-purpose language, go with Python. Knowing Python plus SQL (also very easy) is a great foundation for a data analyst career. Put Tableau or Power BI on top, build a portfolio, and you're good to go for your job hunt.
@danielpraveen8281
@danielpraveen8281 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, where can I find your tutorials on Salesforce Dev? thanks :)
@millertime6
@millertime6 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like Excel. I know most developers crap on it but it has its uses. For me, it's faster and easier to ship than some alternatives like Jupyter notebooks or Python executable.
@ankitachatterjee6927
@ankitachatterjee6927 4 жыл бұрын
Hey David, Where can I get that Salesforce Tshirt 😁 I have been a big fan of your videos since the time I started working in Salesforce and I loveeee Salesforce.
@ishaakadam9598
@ishaakadam9598 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me whether it is a in demand job with good salary?
@dontsaygabe
@dontsaygabe 4 жыл бұрын
So much honesty. I’m impressed.
@spusuluri4804
@spusuluri4804 3 жыл бұрын
David. In my view, those were the good old days in 2010 where we used to hire Admins and Devs with 80-100k by knowing few workflow rules and some apex triggers, but now we are ready to pay 150+ but need someone knowing everything as we don't want someone to write tons of workflows and bunch of process builder just bcz they only know admin work and they can exploit the features which will make things messy. My point to new engineers is make use of Trailhead and try to learn all alternatives when you enter into job market: Low-level knowledge: Workflows, Formula, Rollups, Process builders, Flows, Triggers, Queuable, Batchable, Schedulable, Aura and High Level - LWC, Integrations, CPQ/Billing, Territories, OAuth, Handling large data, most importantly which one to use when..and again everything is in Trailhead, thus hit the bulls eye. Again congrats to the awesome work you are doing by giving back knowledge to the community!!
@shaswatsinha8095
@shaswatsinha8095 4 жыл бұрын
David, that was another great video! I was in a "Robotic Process Automation" project earlier and I worked my a** off to change my domain and get into Salesforce as a developer and I succeeded. It would be great if you share some stories of yours where you faced difficult times and solved critical problems working with salesforce.
@siddharthtube429
@siddharthtube429 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just followed trailheads, is trailhead enough to be job ready?
@shaswatsinha8095
@shaswatsinha8095 3 жыл бұрын
@@siddharthtube429 Yes, Basically trailhead is a good start. Then gradually you can move forward and go through various salesforce documentation and strengthen your salesforce foundation.
@siddharthtube429
@siddharthtube429 3 жыл бұрын
Shaswat Sinha Thank you !
@dreamsdressy727
@dreamsdressy727 3 жыл бұрын
@shaswat..Good Job... Even i am in RPA uipath buthaving tough time with it...even i want to move to Salesforce..is that good idea?hw soon can i learn salesforce and get job?
@RebeccaPurjin1
@RebeccaPurjin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaswatsinha8095 Thanks for your input.I was having a difficult time learning rpa too and stumbled across David's salesforce video. I moved to salesforce
@brandistarks301
@brandistarks301 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the crisp script and resources!!!
@jehanzebali4494
@jehanzebali4494 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Great videos. I'm learning a lot. You provide very honest opinions. I wanna pursuit salesforce industry. Can you please guide me how do I prepare and pass for Platform Developer 1 exam?
@A.A.
@A.A. 2 жыл бұрын
If I read manuals from online article on a webpage, would I still get paper cut?
@danielmartinelli6927
@danielmartinelli6927 3 жыл бұрын
Hello David, I'm 22 years old and recently began my salesforce path this March as a Business Analyst Intern at a Salesforce consulting company. I'm really enjoying the job and I love to learn everyday, mostly because 5 months ago I started with zero experience on SF and I only know the basics of coding. I enjoy your videos because they give me pros and cons about the industry I just entered, I would love to continue in it but this video gave me second thoughts because you encourage to seek other industries. I know I can keep the full time job after I graduate and get promoted to SF consultant, but I would love to get feedback if I should stay where I am or try in some other place. Stay safe.
@santiagovillamilpaz9903
@santiagovillamilpaz9903 5 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel! How its going the SF Carrerer! Keep up with updates!
@ellanesiewlal7584
@ellanesiewlal7584 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video and it seems I am a mix of red and blues after only being in the salesforce world for just over 1 year
@divyanshkanwal5056
@divyanshkanwal5056 4 жыл бұрын
I was working in a Chinese company which is shut for a while and I was just getting started with SfDC admin to enter this industry. Now I have to think again. Thanks David.
@divyanshkanwal5056
@divyanshkanwal5056 4 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu so Dav, I really want to enter in SF world..suggest something..
@nirmalkurian8544
@nirmalkurian8544 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this showed up on my feed but you definitely scared me with that one :D
@hexodo2
@hexodo2 2 жыл бұрын
What if I already got a job as Business Analyst, and they want to assign me to the e-commerce projects that will use or Saleforce or SAP Hybris. Depends on me to what to learn first... what would you do?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
E commerce on Salesforce is pretty niche right now. I would evaluate where SAP is in this space and choose accordingly. The more mature SAP is the less likely I would personally invest in it
@kailashmishra9303
@kailashmishra9303 3 жыл бұрын
When you say" you know a thing or two about Salesforce" couldn't help smile.. People follow and have learnt a lot from you..so don't think that phase suits you...Keep up the good work David...you rock!!
@tourerrahaman5593
@tourerrahaman5593 4 жыл бұрын
David cant thank you enough, for all those basic videos in youtune which I use to follow to understand and then implement in my projects!! 6 years now!! Am trying my best helping my SFDC customers on a daily basis.. And I see SFDC is getting new and new and I am left with so much too learn more!!! Kudos Sir David!!!
@SUVInnerPrizes
@SUVInnerPrizes 3 жыл бұрын
So I’m a sales engineer at Conga and I’d like to master SF since most of our products sit on top of salesforce. I’m looking for someone who can assess me now and recommend a path to mastery
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea!
@maheshreddy6173
@maheshreddy6173 3 жыл бұрын
Hello David, knowing Devops will be an additional benefit or add on for salesforce developers ?
@heenachopra500
@heenachopra500 8 ай бұрын
Hi i am into SF testing want to learn SF development what should i do ? From where should i start ? Please can some one guide me ?
@acquadiamore
@acquadiamore Жыл бұрын
This confirms that SF is perfect for me. Thank you so much for this awesome video!
@DanNguyen-zy8rj
@DanNguyen-zy8rj 3 жыл бұрын
Hey David! Quick question: how much advanced Java knowledge do we need to be good Salesforce developers using Apex? If we have beginner knowledge in both Java and HTML/JS (for LWC), which is more important to learn? I'm a self-taught, quirky aspiring SF developer as well - so thanks for all your advice!
@srinivasreddy7510
@srinivasreddy7510 4 жыл бұрын
Useful Information for all salesforce feature employees.
@peachywalks
@peachywalks 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the test! Thanks a lot
@Will-if7wp
@Will-if7wp 4 жыл бұрын
Am I weird that I work in Salesforce everyday and I still love learning more? The only bad thing is we are highly customized, so I don’t get to use a lot of the out of the box Salesforce.
@aakanshasingh6297
@aakanshasingh6297 3 жыл бұрын
No
@amitjangid169
@amitjangid169 3 жыл бұрын
जी टी।।।।।
@Karolina-vi2wt
@Karolina-vi2wt 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, just wanted to let you know that this comment was very crucial for my decision to pick it up!
@Will-if7wp
@Will-if7wp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Karolina-vi2wt awesome Karolina! A lot has changed since I wrote this comment. I have a new job where all I use is “out of the box Salesforce”, so it paid off. Keep going forward and learning new things. I wish you the best!
@Karolina-vi2wt
@Karolina-vi2wt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Will-if7wp Thank you! I'm a bloody beginner, I come from NLP (not happy with that unfortunately) and have some programming experience, mainly in Python. Also know one thing or two about Machine Learning. Would it be useful?
@millertime6
@millertime6 Ай бұрын
I came across this and realize I commented 3 years ago! I’d love to hear your opinion of the current Salesforce job market which is probably worse than what you predicted. I imagine you have some thoughts about where we’re headed!
@KryptonAndBakchodSquad
@KryptonAndBakchodSquad 2 жыл бұрын
Hey what's about Microsoft dynamics 365?
@ManojVerma-ss5kb
@ManojVerma-ss5kb 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you explain things..how much scop for Sfdc CPQ
@sumanthss9617
@sumanthss9617 Жыл бұрын
Sir I am working as support engineer from 5 years now I am willing to switch but confused with automation selenium testing or Salesforce admin please help, my coding knowledge is below average so really confused ,😒
@nishitagupta1700
@nishitagupta1700 3 жыл бұрын
I want to learn Salesforce Consultant role as my current experience is in HR Recruitment but I want to change my profile for growth. Please guide
@1337billybob
@1337billybob 2 жыл бұрын
How did you conclude the salesforce professional average income is $150k? I presume you mean the US only, but even then I have looked around and I cannot verify your statement.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the various salary surveys from Mason Frank, Salesforce, etc
@janrasmussen8144
@janrasmussen8144 4 жыл бұрын
spend years with mechanic automation, then as a project manager, using programs for that ( gannt charts etc) and now have 30K+ points in trailhead did tons of admin courses, now following the mike wheeler admin one to get cert asap..... any advice for the path that is ahead of me ? never worked with salesforce i might add.... also lives in spain so im not that much in it for the money, i see a max of 50K euro here i think...
@janrasmussen8144
@janrasmussen8144 4 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu I will thanks !!
@OzoneMe03
@OzoneMe03 2 жыл бұрын
Being honest helps so many not waste their valuable time!!! 👍👍👍
@subashiniarrib2007
@subashiniarrib2007 2 жыл бұрын
I am a project manager at an IT Company and I started there as a QA Tester. I wanted to know if I can apply for QA jobs at Salesforce without knowing anything about Salesforce software just I would apply for a job in any other company?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess you can but given I don't work for Salesforce or have familiarity with their QA roles I'm not totally certain. Either way, apply to jobs whether you're qualified or not!
@sivarao4053
@sivarao4053 3 жыл бұрын
Can a biology graduate with 9 years non technicam experience cab learn salesforce?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Background is irrelevant.
@riyazhudda3772
@riyazhudda3772 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious what does Google do with Salesforce. Isn't google a software company itself?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
This i can't talk about lol. But note that even big companies need to work with other companies to succeed. Could Google make its own desks and chairs? Sure! But Google is better off just buying those items and using its brainpower elsewhere
@JLast
@JLast 2 жыл бұрын
I'm extremely ambitious and I'd like start a business in the future. Do you think the knowledge from salesforce to entrepeneur doesn't transfer? I'm a software engineering student so this seemed like a good fusion of coding and business.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
It's a step in the right direction. Maybe not the most direct path. Make sure to join a small company though
@JLast
@JLast 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu Wow, thank you so much for your fast reply. Do you have in mind a more direct path where I can be involved in both developing and business?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Join a startup 😁
@JLast
@JLast 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu hahah, thanks!
@rishabhverma1874
@rishabhverma1874 4 жыл бұрын
What if someone study Salesforce Fundamentals, Apex Coding (learned from your course, it was Awesome!!) puts time and dedication towards learning Salesforce for at least 1.5 years and at the time of interview the interviewer says we'll look your Salesforce skills when you'll join us, first write that Java Code. /* It feels like stupid putting time and effort learning Salesforce, instead learn Java */
@dv9156
@dv9156 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu I want to be a Salesforce developer
@IoriBernstein
@IoriBernstein Жыл бұрын
Hi David! I'm currently a Salesforce dev with 2 years of experience, but I'm thinking about switching to a more general stack, like Java, Spring and Angular. Which do you think would be better in the long run? Despite you being a Salesforce professional, I really appreciate your honesty haha
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you're relatively young and sharp enough to pick up any tech stack. Given that, I'd say go general (something more modern than Java / Spring though). The exception is if you want to be closer to the business than the tech, in which case I'd say stick to the Salesforce path. Good luck!
@montecrucis7247
@montecrucis7247 Жыл бұрын
I second David's viewpoints. I'm a Java dev having dipped my toe into SF and after a few months now, I left the SF world going back to traditional development. A reddit user described it as "SF Admin clickwork development physically hurts". In SF you do as much as you can the admin click configuration route then write a bit of code on top of it. For me it was way too much of this kind of declarative propramming. I very soon missed the freedom and options I had whithin the other tech stacks. I missed using my brain for logic and design rather than using it for learning click routes by heart. Hunting certs felt like being back at uni, and I needed to learn stuff that's not going to be supported any more in the upcoming months (workflows, Process Builder). The amount of "what were they thinking?" + palmfacings I had in that short amount of Admin practice was immense. Transitioning from Java etc. to SF might be a different experience than getting into SF without having tech background. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't listen to all the hype out there but a) get a free Trailhead account b) take your time and try a few badges and a few Admin scoped Superbadges c) imagine that all those details will be part of your cert exam in Admin certs, Platform developer certs and part of your daily work routine as a SF dev. If I'd still like it I'd give it a try. Tech job profiles are in high demand and probing different tech stacks in your early career isn't going to hurt you (on the contrary: you will gain insights and experience that will support your future career steps). Having a general stack as a foundation leaves you with more options since you are equipped with skills and tools that are applicable in both the SF and non SF world. Having SF only skills and then going into general dev roles leaves you without knowing about for example databases, DB configuration, migration and design, how to choose and connect all those tools, which framework to use and why etc. As a SF dev you get used to the out of the box functionality. I had the impression that SF devs have an "I only have to use it I don't need to understand it" attitude. Best practices as SW developer were rarely to bee seen in the SF world although it is preached by APEX hours. No clean code, no TDD, test asserts like assert(1, 1) just to get the code coverage because nobody in SF knows how to write maintainable code. A Senior SF dev recently told me "SFDX CLI has only been on the market for 4-5 years so nobody really knows the CLI characteristics of that tool yet" and I was like "since 5 years already?". I used it as a CLI with flags and extended outputs and not as a CTRL + SHIFT + P clicky thing. Also see the postings on "why SF devs don't feel like real devs". Writing LWC's was the most fun part for me in the SF world, it felt pretty much like a traditional FE Framework using JavaScript. Working in SF left me hungry and thirsty for tech and I now am able to fully enjoy it again.
@IoriBernstein
@IoriBernstein Жыл бұрын
​@@dvdkliu Thank you David, very good answer. Which more modern programming languages do you suggest, instead of Java? I would like to work for big companies, like Google and Microsoft
@IoriBernstein
@IoriBernstein Жыл бұрын
​@@montecrucis7247 Thank you for the comment. I agree with you, I think if you wanna improve your software engineering skills, Salesforce is not the correct path to follow. The advantage is that it's closer to the business, like David said.
@montecrucis7247
@montecrucis7247 Жыл бұрын
@@IoriBernstein This is also one of the main reasons SF development sucked for me: the sales attitude/mindset leaked into the engineering culture. Profit over quality agility and sustainability. Delivering shitty code with tons of technical debt seemed to be OK as long as the customer is stuck with using Salesforce. And once you've invested into something you rather stick to it than changing over to an alternative. This money-focused attitude is also one of the main motivators of traditional devs changing to SF dev careers (and being happy with it).
@edhuber3557
@edhuber3557 Жыл бұрын
You have an 'interesting' sense of humor. What career path can choose me so I can emulate your humors, and other secretions?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Self employed 🤣
@danielm.5636
@danielm.5636 3 жыл бұрын
I took saleforce personality test and my result is: 50% dev 50% admin. Now I am confused :) By the way, you have great channel! You have inspired me to give saleforce a try in my mid 30.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!! Hybrid admin/dev is very popular and strong in the market, a good fit for you!
@user-pd7hw9zi2z
@user-pd7hw9zi2z 3 жыл бұрын
Hey.. I am in 30s and I am freaking out. I dont know what to do
@pranavsurve9752
@pranavsurve9752 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-pd7hw9zi2z Just Chill and stay out of shit called Salesforce!
@swarooppabbineedi1820
@swarooppabbineedi1820 2 жыл бұрын
@@pranavsurve9752 why..? I'm 29 at present and trying do a course on salesforce admin and find a job in it, as one of my friends suggested it. Shouldn't I do that course...? Please tell about it something.. 🙏
@p.chandra2444
@p.chandra2444 2 жыл бұрын
@@swarooppabbineedi1820 Hi Swaroop, I am just like you and started learning by doing a course on sf a week ago. I think, you can also go for that.
@heidilehman9009
@heidilehman9009 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David! I am a newbie digital marketer. I focus on the kitchen and bath remodel niche. I’m wanting a CRM to help these businesses organize their projects , to save them a lot of waisted time and get the job done faster. What do you suggest????
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Salesforce is the best but also the most expensive. I'm biased!
@heidilehman9009
@heidilehman9009 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu thank you for your reply! Hmmm 🤔 But for what I need it for, (even though you are biased ) do you still think salesforce is the best for me? I’m new to CRM so I don’t even know where to begin. I looked on trailblaze , but it’s extremely overwhelming!!!!
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Well normally for smaller businesses they start with spreadsheets, then move to Salesforce once they start hitting limitations. Once you think you're ready for Salesforce check out my "Learn Salesforce Fast" video !
@heidilehman9009
@heidilehman9009 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu yes I actually watched your learn Salesforce fast video! But to be honest, I felt so overwhelmed! I don’t even know most of the lingo you used! That’s how new I am!!!! 😱
@roshanjha8494
@roshanjha8494 3 жыл бұрын
David u mentioned in one of your videos that Salesforce is in the phase 2 of its growth. can u please tell us the technologies in their first phase of growth ??
@roshanjha8494
@roshanjha8494 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu And nothing else??
@danielm.5636
@danielm.5636 3 жыл бұрын
AI, Electric cars.
@anuradhahiremath6449
@anuradhahiremath6449 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Your video is impressive....I saw the video till end..I have question here...I am actually a starter at Salesforce now and with a ''non-technical'' background.. I wanted to know WHAT SHOULD I LEARN IF NOT SALESFORCE in the year 2021... Waiting for an answer..
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
I am not an expert there sorry!!
@balumadasu7461
@balumadasu7461 3 жыл бұрын
@Anuradha I too non tech background and started Salesforce. So from which source your learning
@anuradhahiremath6449
@anuradhahiremath6449 3 жыл бұрын
@@balumadasu7461 I am doing trailheads..and also Focus On Force
@corv2731
@corv2731 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are the man, but this kills me every time you say it lol. Excel and Salesforce are entirely different *experiences* even if at the *database* level they operate in a similar way. I absolutely despise doing anything in Excel, and I absolutely love working on Salesforce, in every capacity. I literally look for excuses to build something in a DE that I'll actually use for personal reasons. To imply that it's the same as using Excel is a major oversimplification of the role that UI and UX design play in one's overall experience of software. Maybe it seems the same as Excel from the perspective of someone whose primary job is programmatic dev? Certainly not the case for any other Salesforce role. That aside, enjoyed your intro to Apex course. You should do one on LWC :)
@julianaliaga1065
@julianaliaga1065 Жыл бұрын
Do you recomend to start as a developer?
@mlikhitha4210
@mlikhitha4210 3 жыл бұрын
What do you suggest then ?
@tanujatalekar6320
@tanujatalekar6320 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Really need your feedback @David , I am into digital marketing , so wanted to ask you abt Salesforce Marketing cloud Certification . Will it be a good path to join? If yes... Can you please suggest some good links to learn them Awaiting your response eagerly TIA
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Great career path!
@tanujatalekar6320
@tanujatalekar6320 2 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule to reply :) Could you also suggest from where can i get to learn complete course in detail
@mimineren8787
@mimineren8787 2 жыл бұрын
How do I go about learning Salesforce other than trailhead?
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Learn Salesforce Fast video! Trailhead is pretty important for anyone learning btw
@bagavathyramu6022
@bagavathyramu6022 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. I am learning salesforce admin and i am from coding background. I have few questions. Can you please answer. 1. Is it possible to find a job with no admin exp. 2. What certificate to do after admin. Please help.
@ealmak
@ealmak 2 жыл бұрын
Good job. You scared me away. I'd rather learn backend coding.
@LearnWithNeeraj777
@LearnWithNeeraj777 2 жыл бұрын
One word for this video is honesty.
@Desdroyer24
@Desdroyer24 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think in my country there is a lack of Salesforce Developers, because I just had an internship with Salesforce and I constantly receive job offers. There were two times that I told the recruiter that I just studied and they didn't care, they want me to work anyway xd
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@loganx906
@loganx906 2 жыл бұрын
Which country?
@misbamujawar7819
@misbamujawar7819 Жыл бұрын
Devid AWS is Good option or not??
@Blas_Mar
@Blas_Mar 2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. Seriously 🙏🏻 nice Job and you got a follower
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁
@rashidmn2270
@rashidmn2270 3 жыл бұрын
then what should we learn?????????
@specialfriendegg
@specialfriendegg 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an experienced admin...how can I learn coding?
@Lucas-iv6ld
@Lucas-iv6ld 2 жыл бұрын
"These days for every one Salesforce admin position I see Open I might see 10 Salesforce developer positions open." I'm glad to hear that, since I'm an experienced Java developer and learn Apex would be a breeze. I will learn Salesforce. Thank you!
@itsreason3238
@itsreason3238 2 жыл бұрын
update?
@HassaanALal
@HassaanALal Жыл бұрын
@@itsreason3238 he ded
@10.03MB
@10.03MB 3 жыл бұрын
I started learning sale force admin from last 1 month.now you are saying do not learn salesforce.. Please tell me should I continue or not.?
@10.03MB
@10.03MB 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu Thank you
@karthichelliah976
@karthichelliah976 3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to be a sales force developer could you please let me know the growth?
@kattt26
@kattt26 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently working as a Salesforce Support and I hate every single minute of it. I work 10hrs a day from 10pm to 8am, and just earlier I worked from 10pm to 10am. I would be so much happier if it was a day shift.
@kattt26
@kattt26 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu the work is not so tough when you have colleagues that support and help you, but I cannot handle the work schedule. It has affected me physically and mentally so I'm actually quitting today because I cannot go through another day having mental breakdown because I'm just so tired. I barely get sleep in the morning.
@pierrepucheu
@pierrepucheu 11 ай бұрын
@@kattt26 Why don't you look for another job with another shift? Of course, that is if you like SalesForce.
@deboman81
@deboman81 6 ай бұрын
@@pierrepucheuright. I feel some people like to stay stuck on stuck instead of just make some changes smh.
@sochyeisenberg3760
@sochyeisenberg3760 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@willa.3416
@willa.3416 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are a godsend!!!! Mark my words. I'm getting to that 100K salary in the next two years.
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I believe in ya!
@willa.3416
@willa.3416 3 жыл бұрын
David K. Liu I just did your career personality test. I got Salesforce developer!! My heart is beating so fast!
@kirill3751
@kirill3751 4 ай бұрын
@@willa.3416how do you like it?
@prithvithakur1014
@prithvithakur1014 3 жыл бұрын
Best line i scared many people to reduce your competition 😂
@nofear879
@nofear879 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great information
@Sourabh169
@Sourabh169 3 жыл бұрын
I started with Salesforce 3 years ago. After 8 months joined a project to integrate SKUID over Salesforce. Since then for over 2 years worked with SKUID just to put a layer over Salesforce. Now... 1. Nobody cares about SKUID... 2. I still don't know Salesforce. i.e. 3 years of career leading to nothing for me but to start over with learning data science. 🙁🙁🙁🙁 Sometimes I wish I had never started with Salesforce. 😓
@defaultdefault812
@defaultdefault812 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just go to another company?
@deboman81
@deboman81 6 ай бұрын
@@defaultdefault812bingo
@tushantkankerwal4144
@tushantkankerwal4144 2 жыл бұрын
I am software tranine In Salesforce company but I am not interested in Salesforce and I want to move other backend language like python ya nodejs so my decision it's good or bed😥 Please guide me
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Lotta people would do anything to be in your position. Try to pick up backend skills while I'm Salesforce training and transfer
@tushantkankerwal4144
@tushantkankerwal4144 2 жыл бұрын
So sir I have move to Salesforce or not😥 please sir guide me I am so confused 🙏
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 2 жыл бұрын
Well knowing little about you it's hard for me to give any strong opinions on your situation. Generally, for ambitious people who aren't afraid of hard work, I recommend pursuing your dreams. For the rest, I recommend stability
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, I'm a Salesforce Developer and I've never been happier with my job ever!!! I'm a full fledged Java Engineer( developing major projects), a Senior Java Developer. 3 years ago I started Salesforce and my salary tripled! I love my job, I love APEX and I'll just continue getting certified, already got my Administrator Certificate and now going for Platform Developer 1. Sweet 😁
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 3 жыл бұрын
@@dvdkliu sweet, be safe and well...
@kamalakarburugu2482
@kamalakarburugu2482 3 жыл бұрын
@Ivan , I'm a Full stack java developer So if i learn Salesforce and enter into this plot form ,will i get more pay and my career will be good??
@z.z.z.1
@z.z.z.1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, did you learn java during your time at Salesforce or do you have to learn before?
@vasundharakandi3228
@vasundharakandi3228 2 жыл бұрын
Java dev is easy or Salesforce dev
@ivanjdrakov1957
@ivanjdrakov1957 2 жыл бұрын
@@vasundharakandi3228 for sure Salesforce Dev
@sujetabalasubramani3932
@sujetabalasubramani3932 3 жыл бұрын
Now i started learning salesforce...Pick me the best path to become in salesforce ecosystem.Tell me about CPQ certification.....
@deepikasharma1658
@deepikasharma1658 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David I have started learning sales force admin course and yet to complete it m from non IT background hope i get job here and tat too work from home 😊
@dvdkliu
@dvdkliu 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@jessicashemone
@jessicashemone 3 жыл бұрын
How was it?
@asimtaha4581
@asimtaha4581 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to be an admin before you can become a developer?
@asimtaha4581
@asimtaha4581 3 жыл бұрын
David K. Liu thanks David and I’m really liking your videos. What training website will give you the most bang for your buck?
@endlessfacttech1523
@endlessfacttech1523 3 жыл бұрын
I only like second point as every Salesforce developer can work as a Salesforce admin so it's better to ignore Salesforce admin role. Other all are normal points.
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