Don't Make This Ammo Stockpiling Mistake

[@MagicPrepper]

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[@TUKByV1]

I can see some folks' stash getting lopsided just because some calibers are easier to stack than others (.22lr, we're talking about you!) I'm poor-can't even imagine trying to stack 1k Lapua rounds.

[@TUKByV1]

Anyone stacking spare parts?

[@MagicPrepper]

@@TUKByV1 everyone should be!

[@TUKByV1]

@@MagicPrepper crucial imho.

[@kesleycottrell1416]

What is SHTF? I'm an old fart and really have never heard of this.

[@DMAneoth]

One old rancher/farmer I knew carried an old 30-30 in his beat up farm truck. He favored an old low end scope mounted on it with an easy switch to remove it. He often shot it using the open sites. He kept a box or two of ammo in the glove box but Loose ammo could be found on his truck seat, in the cup holders, on the dash and scattered on the floor boards. I’ve seen him drop coyotes from 100 yards several times with that rifle using the scope but I have no doubt he could have done it without it too. He never hunted, though he had plenty of deer on his properties. He did allow an occasional Hunter but it was always kin and never more than one deer. He ran poachers off many times and called the local game wardens so much they all had his name and number on speed dial. “His Deer” knew him by sight and the sound his truck made as it traveled through his farm. He would park his truck close to where he had planted deer feed and they would often graze close enough to his truck for him to toss corn to them. He seldom did target practice unless his boys were doing so too, but I Never saw him miss any shot. After my divorce from his daughter it got a bit weird for me to visit him so (sadly) I lost touch. He died some years later and I still miss the times I road around in his truck with him helping with farm chores. I don’t miss the ex at all.

[@johnrambo2876]

That sounded like a page from a Mark Twain book😎

[@TheAsianOfChaos]

Lmao I love how you are more broken up about your FIL than the divorce with your ex. Must have not been a fun marriage

[@jk-kr8jt]

What does that have to do with this video?

[@DMAneoth]

@@TheAsianOfChaos Even her family admitted she had no friends for good reason. Her parents and brothers were much easier to get along with. Her dad was a salt of the earth type of guy, but as her daddy - he doted on her despite all her faults. We were together for 12 years before she decided I would never amount to anything and filed on me. I was making twice her pay then. Since the I have doubled that amount. Nothing I did was ever good enough for her. And yes I missed him far more than I missed her. In a friend way… nothing weird.

[@joshuasterling2144]

@@DMAneoth When your never good enough that is what happens. Horribly short sited and ungrateful. 7/10 times they probably will regret that as they re-enter the dating market and realize this circus out here...lol

[@shojus]

9mm, 5.56, .308, 12ga and 22lr is what I stockpile. ALL very easy to get and find if all hell breaks loose...

[@bulldogger71]

Agreed. I run AK-47s so we stock 12ga, .22lr, 9mm and 7.62x39. Anything else is just a box or 2.

[@commiesnzombies]

same here with 300 blackout and 450 bushmaster included

[@consco3667]

Same

[@dboutdoors6180]

22lr is probably the most underated round!

[@delendaestcarthago564]

Same, with 350L.

[@jimconnole6328]

Every SHTF circumstance can be different. Factoring in age, strength, health in general, etc. can greatly alter a strategy. Being 70 years old, in reasonably good but not great health, and really capable of only humping equipment a couple of miles at a time I find that a shotgun is a must have. It goes against conventional wisdom but a 9mm, a 30-30, and a 12 and/or 20 gauge is what works best for me. I can only see to shoot out to about 300 yards with consistency so something more than a deer rifle is lost on me anyway. Plus, being this age I am pretty realistic about surviving long term anyway. Most of my stockpile is for my kids and grandkids.

[@Joeshmoshoots]

Your a legend

[@STS767]

That's all highly reasonable, brother

[@vapor1115]

Securing freedom is a multigenerational concern. We all hope that the danger comes in our time so that we can make the sacrifice instead of our kids or grandkids but we also must pass the knowledge, skills and training down through the ages.

[@twigarms1048]

@@vapor1115 I too am 70 y/o. Age makes mortals of us all. It would truly be wonderful if we could pass on our experience, wisdom, and skill sets, with a wave of a wand, to our kids and grandkids. I'm afraid only one of my children, and two of my grandchildren have the fortitude or tenacity. to survive what is coming.

[@sandraherdman3783]

60 with the same Thaught,,one shotgun with a few conversion pistol caliber inserts and use there AMMO what ever it is,,,all my shit is one caliber including my rifle

[@chrism6195]

I have been buying guns and ammo for over 30 years now. I have 14 different calibers and well over 40k rounds. I kind of regret not just sticking with maybe four calibers tops.... But like most people you get into guns and it's like a kid in a candy store. You want it all!

[@chrismaurer2075]

I had at one time 6 different calibers but due to circumstances I had to get rid of a few guns but when I got back on my feet I resupplied and have 2 centerfire rifles in .308 and .223 . I also have 2 .22lr's and 3 12 gauge shotguns and finally 2 pistol calibers , .45 and 9mm . I reload so I have plenty of ammo for all and buy .22lr every chance I get . None of this ammo does me any good if they break so I bought replacement parts like firing pins and springs etc for everything I have as well .

[@americansfortruthandjustic7504]

@@chrismaurer2075 Well done!

[@bensherman8976]

5.56 Nato and 9mm I'm stacking to the rafters. Well I did but the great fire of 2021 wiped me out..

[@dennismartin1256]

SBR ak47, bullpulp 12g, 357, 300 mag. Have up close out to 500 yards fully covered. IMO if you don't have a trusty 12 or 10g in a a short barrel style or a pup then your missing prob the most essential tool. A 10+ size group confronts you or comes to ur door I would not be ok with any pistol caliber in said situations. Your gonna want to reduce there numbers instantly and make damn sure each is gone not just down. Sending 12 rds of buck or slug in a matter of secs threw window or door will do just that and do it very well compared to hoping your shot placement with ur 9 will be on point that day.

[@nonyabusiness1126]

I refined...and highly recommend it if you're not rich.

[@Desert1776]

You only have too much ammo if 1) you're on fire or 2) you're swimming.

[@BroncoBob3113]

👍👍 lol

[@TUKByV1]

I can't dispute this.

[@ronaldlollis8895]

Ahhh....very good Grasshopper.....

[@jaycee30865]

Fire is not as bad as you think. Extinguish the ammo before you stop drop and roll. Swimming isn’t bad with correct handcuff key.

[@anthonyj5298]

or moving

[@RicArmstrong]

Once you get a good stockpile of ammo, store half of each in two locations. That way if one stash gets "hit", you'll still be okay.

[@0fficer47]

As I would love to do that, I worry too much about losing the other half.

[@jstud999]

This isn’t feasible for most people. Most people only have one property they can store ammo

[@MarkFaust]

I agree with any advice that is against the "All eggs in one basket" idea. Yes, it is a risk that your hidden stash could be found, even worse when you got to retreive stash you may find yourself in an ambush.

[@Brickbossman]

Unless your to old and cranky to run In that case keep it all in one place with ohhh let's say about a 100 loaded mags and be ready to protect yourself and yours

[@MagicPrepper]

Never hurts to have a stash.

[@Serenityindailylife]

The good thing about a large spread of calibers is that when everyone buys out the 5.56, you still have a ton of 6.8 on the shelf or if the 9mm is sold out, 40 s&w is everywhere. It helps... I'm coming from a different background and was trained on just about every platform. It helps you to think about the firearm as a tool, you don't care about the brand or color of the shovel, just that you have a shovel.

[@thisismyusername6717]

Yeah but each of those alternative guns you mentioned is more expensive meaning it would be wiser to just buy more ammo of the main caliber you like. Bc anyways if you cant find 9mm you damn sure arent gonna find 40 S&W bullets…BUT. I also buy a range of calibers. I just do it cuz i like them tho🤷🏻‍♂️ i dont get why ppl buy the same caliber in different guns for unless ones compact and the other hunting or something.

[@jjjr.1186]

I got 10000rds of 6.5grendel wolf ammo for 2300$ in 2017. Ppu and Nemo 6.5grendel brass is 14$ a box right now on ammoseek. And I reload. U can make 6.5 from 7.62x39 brass. People who rely on getting ammo from others won't have ammo period. So standard calibers isn't everything people make it out to be. And is kinda ignorant to believe u will get ammo instead of already having enough bought to begin with. I use 6.5grendel. 7.62x39. 3006. And those are my standard ammo types. Keep enough ammo for all ur guns. U never know the job u might need to perform. Long range. Short-range. Hunting. Everything is essential.

[@CustomWeldingandFab]

This very scenario happened during Covid shortages. 40s&w could be found when 9 and 45 couldn’t. I was thankful to be a rare 40 fan.

[@cvabuck5489]

When things got squirrelly in late 2019 (the ammo shortage hit VA first because our governor was an idiot), I vowed never to be caught without again and developed a plan. I divided my calibers into three categories of priority - go-time, hunting, range toys. Then, every payday, I'd get two magazines and $100 of whatever the LGS had in stock of the highest priority category. Might not have been the most cost effective way to get there, but two and a half years later, I'm comfortable across the board and can focus instead on range days and spare parts. This is what I recommend to all my friends now.

[@tundranomad]

Ralph Northam was an idiot no doubt. Glad I left there and moved to AK.

[@gokissasickmonkeyswetass]

Very smart.

[@lordbeeg1]

slow and steady wins the race

[@MagicPrepper]

Thanks for that advice! I like the strategy and I am sure it can help someone else get an idea of how to grow their inventory.

[@black87FXR]

Good strategy

[@tilepusher]

As a older man, who has suffered a stroke, my priorities have changed much over the years since the stroke. I am now a recoil-sensitive, slow moving shell of a man, but we all have to play to our strengths & weaknesses & outfit ourselves as best as we can to protect our loved ones & to give ourselves the best chance for survival. In a all out SHTF, my go to round is 5.56... with AK's 7.62 x 39 as back up(I loved the AK's when I still had my strength & balance... today, not as much). For my truck gun(M*Carbo M-Series Sub-2000) & home defense(Extar EP9), I use 9mm, the main reason for this is the lower noise(than 5.56) levels. For longer ranges, I have chosen the 6.5 Grendel round. I have 2 AR-15 chambered in 6.5 Grendel & I am looking to get a bolt action rifle soon(I know the AR-15 6.5 Grendel bolts are it's weak point & I have backup 6.5 Grendel BCG's), but having a bullet proof, bolt action with a good scope, is a better plan. My secondary weapons/calibers are: 380 Auto(S&W 380EZ-sidearm), a few 22LR pistols & rifles(including a bolt action Rossi) for practice & cheap fun, 50 Beowulf(it kicks like a 12GA, but this is my anti-vehicle weapon), 20GA shotguns(both semi-auto & pump.. because why not? 20GA slugs do a lot of damage at close range & have 30% less recoil than a 12GA) & 12GA(both semi-auto & pump, for small game hunting & cheap/wide usage/plentiful ammo). My plan is to hopefully stockpile 3000+ rounds of 5.56, 9mm & 22LR. I hope to stockpile 1000 rounds of 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39, 380 Auto & 20GA. I hope to stockpile 500 rounds of 12GA & 50 Beowulf. I never wanted to have this many calibers stockpiled, but planning for a unknown SHTF future & my lessening/weakening physical capabilities, has shaped my choices. It would be better If I could shoot as well with a 9mm pistol as I can with my 380 auto S&W 380EZ, so I wouldn't have to stockpile 380 auto. It would be great if I could shoot standing with a 308 rifle as I can with 6.5 Grendel, because a 308 packs a much bigger punch, has longer range & is cheaper/more plentiful. As is, I am stockpiling 8 different calibers. As my mobillity & range is limited, there is no bug-out plan, I have to bug-in. If I was younger & stronger, my stockpile would be: 5.56, 7.62 x 39, 9mm, 22LR, 12GA & 308... that's still 6 different calibers. If I had to do a car bug out... I might go with just 9mm, 5.56 & 22LR.... but my hill to die on, might be protecting all my old dog, food, water, guns & ammo, at home or close by? it would be so hard to leave everything behind. That's why so many old men die... we can't change & we always think we are right. I envy all of you that are younger, stronger & that have way more options. Thank you Magic Prepper & Good Luck to us all!

[@cline8660]

I’m not worried about the guy with a bunch of shiny guns , I’m scared of the guy with one rusty rifle he knows how to use ...

[@deepSouthTexasPrepper]

And if he's missing a couple teeth, or wearing overalls .. you might as well say goodbye to this world 🤣

[@Bigdaddyslasher]

Ya and get yeeted by someone with rusty SKS

[@chronicwizardmargol7265]

Skill defeats gadgetry, shooting is a perishable skill practice,practice.

[@almostontimehero5415]

They're collectable and hold value.....

[@RodGriff]

If it’s rusty, he doesn’t know how to use…

[@roadwarrior3315]

I have been stockpiling ammo for 30 years, so much that I purchased a surplus school bus and basically turned it into an armored gun safe to store it. I have caches at various places buried but I wanted to keep the majority mobile and my 1990 Bluebird 27ft has a wheelchair lift that can lift 1000lbs so it made perfect sense to turn it into in essence a really big gun safe.

[@geo780]

Your bullshiting right😅

[@mono666]

I need to see this.

[@roadwarrior3315]

@@geo780 my wife sure wishes I was.......😂😂

[@roadwarrior3315]

@@mono666 it is ugly but functional

[@mono666]

@@roadwarrior3315 would be dope to see some more youtube vids from your channel

[@doesntmatteranyways]

Can't forget to mention mags are also needed to keep up on ammo feeding your gun. Can have a bunch of ammo and only 2 mags then when/if shtf you find your self defending and you still run out of ammo. There's no time out to reload your 2 mags...

[@MagicPrepper]

No joke on that! There were 8 Lancer mags alone on my workbench. And those are just the new ones haha.

[@TUKByV1]

Mags are cheap now. Won't be later. We've been through this before.

[@davek5027]

I try to buy a mag or two every time I go to the gun store. They’ll be very difficult to find soon, I fear.

[@cripplers8]

Buy mags when you can while they’re available because a few years ago 17 round G17 mags were hard to find and there was only 10 rounders around but the market got plentiful again but what’s here today won’t be here tomorrow like ammo…..

[@tylerwill5250]

15 mags for 9mm? You’d be pulling the trigger with your pinky by the 10th mag haha. Trigger finger fatigue

[@joecitizen6046]

My shtf strategy is defend-in-place. I live in the country on 8 acres where my daughter and her husband live as well, I am 58 years old, have had open heart surgery and prostate cancer. I'm not going anywhere. I did do 29 years in the military and was a Small Arms Instructor for about 15 of it and was also the Anti-Terrorism Officer for our battalion. So I know how to set up perimeter security, etc... I have mostly 9mm because I have an FX9 with 10" barrel and an M9. I also have multiple weights in 5.56 for a DMR set up. I won't tell how many of each, but enough. Those are for me. My wife has a 38 that she just loves to shoot and a 410 pump. She's loves the 10/22 that I have set up for her. I reload all of the calibers that I have mentioned and will mention, plus my hunting ammo. But I like to keep store-bought stuff in stock and will reload once the stores run out. The 308 Win heavy barrel has the dope set for 0-550 yards. It could go longer distance, but 550 is far enough for now. I won't go into detail about my son in law and son, but they all have a full complement as well. My favorite to shoot right now is my Henry lever in 357. I got the newer one with the side gate. Anyway, I only keep about 100 store bought for my conceal carry. Most of us that have been around know that the sidearm is really what you use only until you get to your real fire power (rifle).

[@PatriotJedi]

I have never been in a gun fight thank God. But I have atleast studied enough to understand when the adrenaline hits, simple tasks can become complicated for the brain to execute smoothly under pressure. Accuracy, drawing the gun and effectively delivering rounds to the threat all becomes much more complicated in the heat of the moment. Having said that. I would want to focus on getting to cover or concealment if possible and have as much ammunition on me at the time as possible. Nobody ever said "I brought to many bullets to a gunfight". Training truly is key, to weed out the mistakes and create new neural pathways in the brain. Hoping to get some training soon.👊

[@MagicPrepper]

Once you start getting legitimate training, you find out quickly how much more you want!

[@PatriotJedi]

@@MagicPrepper trying to find some places down here in South Florida but would be willing to travel to a reputable place to get some.

[@J.Young808]

@@PatriotJedi Not sure how far south WOTF, I think it’s West Orlando Training Facility. I believe Lena Miculek trained/instructed there and said it was a very good place to train

[@commiesnzombies]

muscle memory, in a shoot out seconds feel like minutes, tunnel vision hits, murphys law happens, no matter how fast you are at drawing and shooting it still feels like not fast enough

[@jamessteers]

This couldn’t be more true. I was lucky to take a class and learned how to advance and retreat under cover. You will be surprised how fast 100 rounds can go while you are covering for your teammates in a short amount of time

[@nicholas389]

I've made some firearms mistakes but had fun along the way and learned a lot. I narrowed my hobby down to 22lr 25acp 9mm 357mag 45acp 7.62x51 and 12 gauge calibers only. Only stock the primarys. 22lr, 9mm, 357mag, 7.62x51. Just enough 12 gauge to hunt & for emergency in home defense. One thing I've learned is that ammunition is frickin heavy. You can only keep so much, and you can only lift, carry, and move so much. If you're not super strong, or maybe it's just you, yourself, and maybe a wife/gf. You aren't moving 5000 rounds of various ammunition in one tub or box, anywhere far! Shits heavy. Even a few hundred rounds is heavy. Stockpile 22lr that will at least help you out in the weight depot.

[@theoutdoortrader]

Good advice, my exact strategy. As for training, 3-gun has really exposed my weakness. Having thousands of rounds and years of experience firing rifles and pistols, I took the shotgun for granted. These are things you just don’t figure out until you are on the clock under stress.

[@MagicPrepper]

I know my shotgun skills are non existent. I want to do more with it but I need to be better with a rifle than I am currently first.

[@theoutdoortrader]

@@MagicPrepper Competitive shooting events really helped me. I started with USPSA/IDPA then moved into some multi gun stuff. While its no combat experience, the pressure and adrenaline create an element you cant get from range shooting alone.

[@hawaiiangunner]

I hate 3 gun. For me the shot gun is the least useful of the 3 and not worth the money and effort. As far as I'm concerned shotgun is only for door breaching.

[@buckshotbill1127]

@@MagicPrepper blasphemy 😂😉

[@Kai-ky6tf]

@@hawaiiangunner wrong

[@chrlsraines]

ALSO: training ammo is NOT to be included in your stock piled ammo! Otherwise you’d be constantly dipping into your stock pile.

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

very good point lol.. i keep all my speer gold dot and federal HST separate from my FMJ i put one ammo can in the storage and mark it ''JHP'' so i know that its for ''shtf only'' LOL

[@fatefinger]

I have two separate stock piles. The main one I do not touch on the other one for training and plinking. The only ammo that I take out of the main stock pile is when I’m rotating newer ammo into it.

[@chrlsraines]

@@fatefinger YES. That’s the perfect example for stock piling. There’s nothing wrong with cycling older ammo out. However stored properly ammo can be stored for 50+ yrs w/o degradation. You can add Desiccant packs to your ammo cans as well.

[@chrlsraines]

@KZbin Channel yes no argument with this. HPs a for NOW, for self defense, to minimize things like over penetration where an innocent maybe hit, to minimize legal/civil liability. FMJs are absolutely lethal, and are cheaper to stockpile! My point is have your “carry” ammo, have your “range/practice” ammo, & keep your “stockpile ammo” separate so you’re NOT constantly dipping into it, therefore when the stockpile is NEEDED you’re not SHORT because you were practicing with it all the time…

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@KZbin Channel that depends Now doesnt it lol . i would rather have a decent supply of JHP than FMJ ..You might not get a second chance in a firefight lol

[@toddk1377]

I think it will vary from person to person. While I'll say it's great advice and it's what most should do, I still think it's not a bad idea to stock up in other calibers. Main reason being, if those other calibers become hard to get, you have it. This may be something that can last for a lifetime of hunting, used for trading, ect.

[@forkleftism9692]

Do not fear the man with many guns. Fear the man with one rifle for he surely knows how to use it.

[@MagicPrepper]

I agree you should have some of everything. But it should be somewhat lopsided based on what you use the most I would assume.

[@jamesthomas5895]

The last think I would do is trade any ammo, it mite come back to haunt you sometime later

[@saltysaty8686]

It's a waste honestly. I'd rather have 10k of 556 than 500 of 45-70, 300 blk, 10mm, 9mm, 5.7, 556, 300 winmag, 7mm mag, 45 and, 44mag, 357 mag, 38 special, 30 carbine, 44 special, 500 s&w, 454 casul and 200 rnds of 338 lapua. If I don't have those calibers it doesn't make sense for me to have ammo for them. If you planning on opening a trading post after it all goes down then yes. But if that's your plan, you need to have the location where you plan to open this said trading house secured so people don't just shoot you and get their special 44mag ammo for free. Securing a location where you won't get killed for your stash should be your priority before that.

[@toddk1377]

@@saltysaty8686 Like I said, it may vary from person to person. A good example are those who live in remote areas such as Alaska. While a SHTF situation may be different for those of us in the lower 48, a SHTF may be very different for them up there. Plus during the ammo crunch, I bought a crap ton of 12ga 00 buck just before, about 600 shells of it. I knew a lot of people who had shotguns but no defensive ammo, so I sold a lot of it. Not for the price I paid, but what it was going for, $1/rd. I didn't need all that buckshot, I just wanted it since I like to go out and destroy stuff with friends on the weekends such as TV's, appliances, junk cars, ect. I used that money for other stuff that I did need.I agree, you should have the most ammo for the your primary, don't buy calibers you don't own, that doesn't make much sense. Also, I don't think it's a good idea to tell others exactly what you have, imo, puts a target on your back from the wrong kind of people. All of our circumstances vary my friend.

[@nonyabusiness1126]

I agree with this advice. I refined years ago. I'd also recommend less ammo variety. Have a go to round, instead of a bunch of random choices, for each firearm. You'll be zeroed and know it's fully compatible.

[@kennethrimmer1883]

Have enough ammo for you to train with regularly, for your kids to train with, and your grandkids to train with. Never enough

[@tundranomad]

👍It's like saying I have enough food.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

First make sure you have a back stock to keep so you have it, then training ammo. If you burn through all your ammo, all that training was for nothing if you only have a box or two of it left for each gun

[@kennethrimmer1883]

@@HatsuneM1ku01 of course, gotta keep enough to fight with.

[@Toy2Boy]

Exactly and smart for those who are more realistic and don't have money to burn. It also gets you up to speed quicker with being fully stocked. I have 5K+ [target + defense] for each 9mm, 5.56, .308 and 12 gauge - LESS than 500 for .38, .357 mag, .40 and .45. It took me 25+ years to figure out this distribution but I feel all set. Great vid!

[@scott-teaches-bible]

I only shoot two calibers: .22lr and 12g (shot and slugs). Thousands of each. Fairly proficient with both. Great for hunting and self-defense. Feel very secure.

[@breadmandave]

12 gauge and 22 can cover pretty much all needs especially 12 gauge with All of the available shell loading's, everything from bird shot to slugs. Not much of anything can survive a 12 gauge slug !!!

[@spade2you]

Helpful tip: You can use a silver sharpie on stored mags to indicate the year it was loaded and type of ammo.

[@dfabove9108]

You should not store magazines loaded , a few that are that are your go to in the middle of the night but not any more than that .

[@alexeisenhardt9299]

@@dfabove9108why not? What good does loose ammo do?

[@Wildwestwrangler]

​@@dfabove9108that myth has been busted. You can store mags loaded for a few years, and if they are quality mags to begin with they'll still be reliable!!! You actually shorten the life of the mag more by running it then storing it loaded!!! Loading and unloading aka shooting is harder on a mag

[@johnc6738]

I started stock piling 30+ years back. Then started getting away from several calibers. I think I might have just enough. Maybe a little more, just in case.

[@JimboLogic]

I went with: Some 45acp Some 30.06 Decent amount .22lr Decent amount 12g Decent amount 9mm Lots of .308 Lots of 7.62x39 More 5.56 than God.

[@matteobrueller3878]

God is proud of you lol

[@killitngrillit922]

🙏

[@Greek_Man]

Jimbo did good 👍

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

I bought some cheap .50, I do t even have a .50😂. I will soon tho!

[@battalion151R]

@@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr Never hurts to have ammo, before the weapon. Frustrating to have a new caliber, only to have it sit idly by. I reload, so I usually start by buying a set of dies. Gather some brass. Load up some, then decide if I really want that new caliber. I've passed up some rifles and pistols because I didn't want a whole new caliber, to load out.

[@TexasSurplusPro]

I made a mistake and found out I’d put back more ammo then I realized… Speaking of, time to order some more. 😂

[@countrybumkiniii9003]

I thought 20,000+ rounds was enough and seen some guy say he had 100,000 rounds. I’m still buying because I don’t know what enough is?

[@Ash_95]

Might I recommend AA. Ammoholics Anonymous

[@TexasSurplusPro]

@@countrybumkiniii9003 never enough!

[@MagicPrepper]

Best kind of mistake ever.

[@TexasSurplusPro]

@@MagicPrepper I’d pretty militantly stuck to buying one or two boxes of ammo a week since 2012.. If I deviated for a few weeks I’d make up for on the next purchase. This doesn’t include occasional bulk buying.

[@jeremym4942]

Very humble individual. Most KZbinrs with that many subscribers don't admit their flaws

[@drakejdf]

I’m a 22lr fanatic.I have most of the common caliber firearms and ammunition for them as well but I keep piles of high end 22lr if there is such a thing.

[@MagicPrepper]

Haha you do you drakejdf!

[@icelandviking1961]

I love shooting .22 and it used to be cheap and available, now not so much. A large pile would be nice.

[@drakejdf]

@@icelandviking1961 I’ve started stocking it since Obama days.I used to go through a thousand rounds on an outing when it was reasonable but after the price and availability I’ve become more target conscious 😎

[@Adam-kr8wy]

what brands?

[@drakejdf]

@@Adam-kr8wy CCI is great ammunition.stingers are a lot of fun.

[@Kypreparedness]

Totally agree. Especially if one of the rounds is specifically for a long range bolt gun and nothing else. 10k rounds for it would be nice, but due to the special application and being a bolt action you really won’t burn through a whole lot of rounds. That’s one reason I dumped my semiauto .22 and went to bolt action

[@MagicPrepper]

I've been considering the same thing. Even though my 10/22 is a solid work horse, it only jams because it's semi auto lol

[@jpalmi]

plus the fact that long range ammo generally is heavier than your normal "go to" rounds.. moving 10k of larger caliber would suck just a bit, if you had to be on the go for whatever reason. :) btw, did I read that right? You dumped your .22 semi auto and went with bolt action. . . for your long range bolt gun? Or was that separate and your point was you moved from semi auto .22 to a bolt action .22 to avoid burning through ammo? (makes more sense)

[@Kypreparedness]

@@jpalmi seperate point on the 22. My long range is a 24” .270win

[@johnjessey6955]

@@Kypreparedness just bought a 270 this week. About as solid and basic as you can shoot. A lot less expensive than 308. Not as sexy either, but hey. Stay safe and blessed my friend.

[@Kypreparedness]

@@johnjessey6955 I run 270win myself. Only downfall is bullet selection, but hopefully with the new .277 rounds coming out that’ll change

[@juanmanzana5943]

Other thing to consider is corrosive vs non corrosive ammo. Most people dont clean thier self defense weapon and corrosive vs non corrosive could mean the difference between your arm being in good shape to run

[@Subpac_ww2]

I am sitting on 3k of 10mm and I can tell you right now I'm glad that pile was made in 2019 before prices rose. I can't imagine how hard it would be for me to afford doing that again.

[@mortondity]

Such great advice and a reminder to us who are scrambling in these times to try and be prepared as we can be! It can be overwhelming attempting to purchase what we need VS what we think we need, when it comes to Tools and Ammo. Great video!

[@MagicPrepper]

Good way of putting it! I want so many things. The needs are different.

[@dongilleo9743]

I did the rule of three. Limited the number of caliber firearms I had, then eventually acquired three guns in each caliber. For .357/.38 I had a normal barrel revolver, a snub-nosed one, and a Marlin lever action. For 9mm, I had two pistols and a 9mm carbine. I didn't have to store up a wide variety of ammo, and if a gun was lost, stolen, or broke, I still had something else to use that ammo in.

[@commiesnzombies]

nice to see that many manufactures are designing their weapons to use glock mags so we dont have to buy all new mags for every pcc carbine we buy

[@dongilleo9743]

@@commiesnzombies When I got old and disabled and had to downsize, I sold or gave away my gun collection. If I were to do it again, I'd look for a carbine that took Glock magazines to go along with a couple of Glock pistols, so everything could use the same magazines and 9mm ammo. I assume such carbines exist, but I haven't followed the new firearms market for years. That would be the ultimate in exchange ability in a firefight.

[@donh4750]

You have address my concern perfectly. That's why I chose 9mm as my primary and 12G as my alternate. I have been able to mass up a good supply for my pistols, my carbine, and my shotgun without breaking the bank. I'm thinking about adding .30-06 to my collection.

[@michaelrullis7501]

I want a .30-06, bad ass but expensive rounds.

[@yourfreedomisanillusion]

.30-06 is my favorite. And the rounds can vary from 110gr to 220gr with many charge variations… you can do damage well over a mile out if you’re a pro.

[@lancemiller9110]

You will not be disappointed with 30-06, 308, 280, 7mm-08, 270, 260, 25-06, 243. Personally, I’d base your next purchase on what round is most plentiful at your local store, and what keep readily stocked.

[@sixgunmiller6198]

I'm one of the few people on the planet with Belgium browning 16 gauge (last batch out of belgium before hitler took over) it only feeds 2 9/16 oal, fortunately i have 400 rounds. probly 9 other calibers in my reserves. Good episode there bass player.

[@garywillis9528]

I have been doing this for awhile. I USED TO worry about getting too many calibers. But I found out I had to deal with ammo shortages all along going back to Bush Sr. Hard to do now but at one time I was able to aquire surplus ammunition at very cheap prices. My chosen caliber 308 became expensive and hard to find. However, 8mm and 7.62x54r was. People kept telling me they would run out but never did until later. I can still find 54r. The best price I ever paid was 1000 rounds at $99. And that is still an option because you can buy multiple calibers for AR type rifles either complete or one lower with multiple uppers. So I made a point for buying uppers and a decent amount of ammunition when I would find one on sale. NOT Grendal but 6.5 Creedmoor or 243. 7.62 x 39 and probably 300 AAC at some point. I was also intrigued with 22 Nosler. With a $200 upper and almost 1000 rounds I am good to go. The Creedmoor upper was abour $250 and a nice 243 barrel under $100 on clearance. This was before the pandemic and the BLM riots so decent ammo for Creedmoor right at $20 bucks a pop match less than $30. Both have come back but at least 50% more. Nosler hasn't but I already have a decent amount. So take advantage if you can with the AR platform. I would specifically recommend a source but not fair to the host. Let's just say the best prices I have found are from a Mormon owned but not managed company. You can easily pay $600 for just an AR 15 upper. If you want LR 308 get the DPMS style uppers and lowers take SR25 configured mags. The others are very uncommon. Just think about it. If you spend $250 on an upper and can only find a few hundred rounds for it so what? Better than nothing in SHTF. Also grab the appropriate BCG and magazine if required. Some are different. There is an lr308 upper in 12 guage but it is kind of pricey and goes on a 308 lower. And think, uppers in all calibers except 50 BMG are not registered though we thought they would be with the reg change.

[@reddune6185]

For those considering a 308 rifle, Palmetto state armory has their AR-10S that are Dpms style, take the SR25 mags, and have a lifetime warranty. You can pick one up for less than $900. On sale, I have two, and they are very accurate with steel cased ammo.

[@BladesRKing]

Good info. I prefer to have multiple weapons in the same caliber, then if you have a failure in a certain weapon it doesn’t render your ammo useless.

[@davep4610]

Same here

[@RL-RL]

I did my main 4 calibers and stocked heavily. Then came a toy I've been wanting. Slowly adding ammo each month is like prepping food everytime you grocery shop. This stuff isn't cheap, but it has many advantages. Wifey now wants a new tool, but it has to be of the same caliber already heavily stocked up on, and wouldn't hurt to take the same mags as well.

[@MagicPrepper]

Now I really want to know what the new toy is. I am going to guess it's something chambered in 5.7

[@RL-RL]

@Never Comply_2A rights4life 🤣I got into the habit of calling them tools due to the Tools&Targets channel. Kinda like WhoteeWho Boolots,and Bing bangs. LOL

[@RL-RL]

@@MagicPrepper Yea it's an amazing round, and multiple platforms that use it. Prices are coming down now, and I think because many new platforms/tools are coming out.

[@cw3482]

Love your logic and just subscribed. I spent 10 years in the army half of which was in special operations. Not knowing the M4 and pistol as well as I should have when I was younger showed it’s self when the older guys to include the civilian instructors out paced me like no other. This was the same for planning and tactics. A very humbling experience, this topic is right in alignment with that and I hope people take a more intentional approach to their firearms. Not saying don’t have “fun guns” but this is some great advice.

[@Tinman964]

We my son daughter and I . Each have 5.56, 9mm and 12 gauge with 22 plinker . We follow the rule of 1,000 of each caliber per each person This way if we have to move or meet up it’s easier to load out and move . Now on the side I keep 1000 rounds of 45 for trade if needed. But that’s just me . I don’t have to worry about leaving tools behind ya know ….

[@destinytroll1374]

I've got about 5,000 rounds for my primary system, 2000 rounds for my backup system. About 1500 rounds for my sidearm of choice. I would also suggest a good stockpile of 22 LR it's definitely anemic as a combat round yes yes I know it's better than nothing but still, it's a great round for getting small game. If shtf happens anytime soon the bigger game like deer in most of the US or moose here in Alaska are going to be hit quickly and hard. But the songbirds, rabbits, squirrels and other such small game are a lot easier to find but also far more numerous. Adding some stewed rabbit to my bean and rice supply will be a welcome change if I ever need to rely on it.

[@reddune6185]

And, nobody wants to get shot, even with a 22. 👍

[@pink_love_cat4928]

Alaska !!! I would love to live there well I could " BUT " my wife refuses to move to such a beautiful place

[@oleyeller3256]

I think imma save up and add a rifle in .22lr to my stock. I try to be practical with whatever guns I plan to buy and own. I was planning for a bolt action rifle for a dedicated hunting rifle, but i think ill make prioritize a .22 rifle first since its much more affordable, and i already have an ar to double as my backup "hunting rifle" for now. I should at least get a decent qd scope, and when im able to get the bolt action, i can just mount that scope to it. .22lr rifle with optics and a spare scope it is. Great advice brother, thanks.

[@joshandmanuela]

I would suggest getting one of those 22lr conversion kits for 556 and training with the much cheaper ammo.

[@oathtaker2768]

That what I did (CMMG)

[@EAZYMEDIAPRODUCTIONS]

My next goal

[@diveforknowledge]

Great investment, unless .22lr disappears like it did back in the Great Ammo Shortage of 2012.

[@tonymachuca9471]

How much does a conversion kit cost and where can one buy one from a reputable company?

[@oathtaker2768]

@@tonymachuca9471 CMMG conversation kit. Get the with the 3 mag pack, I think I paid under $100.00 over a year ago I can’t remember the price. It replaces your BCG. Watch a video on KZbin about it, easy to find.

[@stinkbean1]

Then I’m mistaken. My early goals were 4000 per AR15, 2000 per AR10, 800 rounds per sidearm .357, (I no longer own any .45 or 9 mm), 40000 rounds of .22, and the various bigger calibers than the aforementioned simply what I could obtain. An additional important priority was magazines, 20-35 per weapon, caliber and perceived necessity dependent.

[@romak4756]

Replacing 9mm with 357 was a mistake

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@@romak4756 i agree always keep at least one 9mm LOL

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

.357 Mag or SIG??

[@romak4756]

@@blackticalmayhem8461 the absolute most popular handgun round, it's like someone dumping 9mm for 45gap

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@@romak4756 😂👍👍

[@truonghthe]

In SHTF scenario, it would be nice to have common caliber as those are readily to be found. During the pandemic just reinforce this idea, 5.56 and 9mm can be found even at significantly higher price. Other caliber almost cease to existed during the shut down.

[@robertgoodrich8953]

Not here. There was no 5.56 or 9 mm. Fortunately, my primaries are 7.62x51 and .45 ACP. Those were and are available.

[@truonghthe]

@@robertgoodrich8953 i havent seen 45 ACP in the store for almost a year lol. 9mm price is up in the sky. $32.00 for a box of 50 115gr fmj smh.

[@animal0mother]

During the pandemic, shelves were bare of .22, 12 ga, 9×19, .380, .38 special, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 magnum, 10mm, .44 magnum, .223, 7.62×39, .308, and .3006. You could get 7.62 tokarev, 9mm makarov, .45 GAP, 7.62×54, .32 acp, 20 ga, .270, etc..

[@g.h.3049]

I agree, 5.56 and 9 mm are my go to so I keep the majority of them. Other cartridges just a few hundred.

[@jamesthomas5895]

MP: I use to shoot IDPA, one of the other shooters ran a range at a big college where there was a police training facility, every time we had a shoot, he brought me anywhere between 500 to 1000 45 acp. cases. Had another friend who reloaded for me. Needless to say, I have a ship ton of 45acp.As for rifle ammo, I'm 72 years old so been thru a few shortages and bans. I'm now not effected about shortages. LOL

[@John_Connor556]

I fear not the man whose shot 1000 rounds through 10 different rifles, but the man whose shot 10000 rounds through 1 rifle...keep up the great work MP & stay frosty out there!

[@MagicPrepper]

I am trying to be that guy. And it hurts my insides.

[@2fathomsdeeper]

I wouldn't fear the man who shot 10K through one rifle, cause his barrel is worn! A shot out barrel is 15-18K.

[@John_Connor556]

@@2fathomsdeeper *replaces barrel* 😏

[@constitutionalrepublican1611]

@@John_Connor556 i stay with spare parts and build kits.

[@2fathomsdeeper]

@@John_Connor556 grabs identical copy out of storage while you change barrels 😁

[@MrMech-oj7iy]

Been stocking ammo so long. I overstock all four calibers I own. I plan to hand out a bunch of guns and ammo to others in need. Also extra ammo could be a barter item to the right people. Good video. Lots of info.

[@mattschmitt9924]

@Never Comply_2A rights4life personally I would get a 9. Maybe a pistol caliber carbine that takes the same mags as what you use. 5.7 is so expensive IF you can find it and 45s are for fudds!

[@spook283]

when i started prepping in the early 1980's and continue to this day, my mindset was any weapons i would use for or in a shtf situation the ammo would be more easily available 9mm, 45acp,12ga,556 and 308.police,military and most civilians will always have some on hand

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

boy we wrong about 9mm luger though LOL...it was impossible to find i had plenty tho before covid got some of that cheap walmart champion years ago and it was $9/ per box lol good ole days for sure

[@gregb6469]

You forgot the most widely available ammo of all, .22LR.

[@spook283]

@@gregb6469 i do have that also just forgot to put that in my post

[@spook283]

@@blackticalmayhem8461 i have plenty of 9mm been buying and stockpiling boxes for years

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@@spook283 😊👍👍🍻Smart move

[@j.p.4541]

Great topics. I find a lot of people don’t talk about “how to store ammo” properly. Desiccant packs in the ammo cans or the proper dry packs for the safe.

[@gregorykavka3531]

Great video! In these times it is hard to maintain a quantity of your dominant caliber. Also thank you for humbling yourself on the mistakes you made, to keep others from making them too.

[@armeddiver]

I’m an old man and didn’t get into guns and shooting until I was 61 in 2015. I 100% agree with you. I know I am going to get flamed for this, but let me admit something. I do not own a gun chambered for 5.56x45 or .223. I have two AR15 calibers, which are; 6mm ARC and 300 BLK. I am a super fan of 300 BLK. It is considerably more expensive than 5.56, but I am willing to pay the difference because I like it so much. I have two AR10 calibers, which are; .308 and 6.5 CM. I am a huge fan of 6.5 CM. As for handguns, while I have several of them, they are all of one caliber 9mm and they are all striker fire guns with one exception. The calibers I shoot the most are 9mm, 300 BLK and 6.5CM in that order. The caliber I shoot the least is the .308 and it is the caliber that I have the least amount of ammo for. Honestly, the only real reason I have a .308 is just to have something in a very common caliber if needed. I stock pile 9mm, 300 BLK and 6.5 CM whenever I can get a good deal. I am constantly looking at ammoseek.com for deals. I am particular. I will only buy new ammo, and with very little exception, I try to buy American manufactured ammo. How many people are aware that Sellier and Bellot, which is manufactured in the Czech Republic, and Magtech, which is manufactured in Brazil, are both owned by CBC Global Ammunition, which is headquartered in Brazil? How many people know that Norma is manufactured in Sweden? These are all good ammunition and reasonably priced, but if I can, I prefer that my money stay in the U.S. I do not reload and have personal reasons for not reloading, so please save the comments. Before closing, I just want to thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@robertstanton1668]

In times of economic chaos ammo can be a good substitute for currency, especially if restrictions are imposed. In this case, you can't really have too much ammo, especially in commonly used calibers.

[@jstud999]

That’s a terrible idea. It sounds good on paper but in a real life SHTF scenario trying to harder with ammo is a good way to get yourself killed and have jealous eyes scheming on you and yours

[@mikefranklin1253]

Only swap or sell ammo within your group/team. You do not want ammo "coming back at you" if/when people get desperate.

[@Number3boyz]

You only got two arms and one trigger finger. I go with 5.56 for AR, 9mm for side arm and I do go with a distance gun from far away with a .308 bolt action.

[@snake57]

The only time you have too much ammo is when your house is on fire.

[@informationexchange4085]

Great advice. My go-to's are a .308 Winchester and a 9mm. Why? The .308 fits the bill for CQB and long range effectiveness. An AR-10, 16" barrel is light enough and quite capable. I know many will tell me that a 5.56 M855 has better penetration... but try shooting that 600 yrds if need be, without tumbling. People need to stop comparing those green tips with a the measly 147gr M80 ball ammo - optimal loads would be 175gr, HPBT with the right powder. Love my 300WM, .338LM, .375CT and 5BMG's, but we're not walking around comfortably with those babies in a SHTF scenario. The 9mm is the perfect round that's versatile in pistol and carbine configurations. One size like a 124GR +P is all you'll need for your pistol and carbine up to 16". I find it that women prefer to shoot carbines over an AR-15. Maybe it's because many non-AR variants make it super easy to use, like Ruger's PC Carbine takedown - sweet little rig. Peace!

[@NYRM1974]

I remember when I was very young and I was asking Colonel Jeff Cooper a simple question. And I asked how much ammo should I keep on hand. Now mind you this was before the 1980s assault weapons ban proposal that was looming in the shadows before became a law later on. He told me for every firearm that I own you should have a minimum of ten thousand rounds per firearm. Another thing he also told me was to make sure you have parts for every firearm you own things do break. As for proper ammo storage I learned from many survivalist who also served during the Vietnam war.. I was also instructed to stay on mainstream calibers and stay away from exotic rounds as they become a problem to aquire. And when preparing for SHTF. And learn hand reloading of ammo. I Keep my battle rounds from training ammo .For chance favors the prepared mind. And I've held to that my entire life.

[@timbeaty854]

Great video. I agree. Go with minimal variants of rounds. I collect 5.56, 40 S&W, and 38 +P because I can use those in my Smith 38 +P and my Ruger SP101 357 pistol. I also collect 22LR because you can never have enough. They might not be stopping power ammo....but they'll definitely make someone rethink they're current actions.

[@RangeDayShootingSupply]

I think after expirementing for a few years, most gun owners seem to eventually consolidate calibers down to their favorites.

[@MagicPrepper]

Yea it makes life easier.

[@RangeDayShootingSupply]

@@MagicPrepper thanks for the video, you have some good thought provoking and original content. I dig it.

[@MagicPrepper]

@@RangeDayShootingSupply thanks for the support!

[@Iridium242]

Yup, made this mistake early on. Got it sorted out, sold off a lot of oddball stuff and put it into my main calibers.

[@MagicPrepper]

It hurts but its necessary

[@Ordie-rb1uw]

I did the same thing, standardized my calibers for the whole family.

[@kevpachakey]

I think 10k is a good number to prep to. As for load-out I go with the standard 6 mags +1 and 3 +1 pistol; when training for a recce I keep 4 more in reserve in my pack along with a 100rnd drum mag for suppressive fire for the designated gunner. Everyone acts as part of the fire team and carries reserve ammo. People really get ahead of themselves and try to go Rambo in SHTF thinking... All you have to do is look at the military field manuals from WWII where our small unity infantry tactics really dominated the force on force battles. Having designated duties is really the way to go. Same with homesteading-- you cant do it all yourself.

[@davej9716]

Wizz the hard truth is people will get worn down fast if they are lucky to survive the initial month, try going full Rambo on a empty stomach and no sleep.

[@yourfreedomisanillusion]

Good stuff.

[@coziii.1829]

I’m a prepper I’m stocked up on everything Food Ammo Water Solar Gas Generators Etc I get most common gun and rifle ammo So I really don’t have a mix I have 30 acres and put a gun range on it as well

[@MagicPrepper]

Wait, are you me? haha

[@BAMFsTactical]

My goal was 6k for a primary rifle (556) 3k for a secondary (9mm) 1k for hunting (308) 5k of .22lr And then fun calibers like .357 & 12 gauge sparingly, never bought in bulk.

[@TripleAAA53]

YES... Made that mistake but realized long ago wasn't a good idea and rectified it pronto. Thx for the valuable input anyway !!

[@Soravia]

Your inventory needs to be where you will need them. I.e. never put all your eggs in one location. If you have 1,000 rd for EACH WEAPON, you don't have enough.

[@erikwright4155]

What i like about .300 blackout from a reloading aspect is this: Anyone who owns a .223 will have plenty of suitable brass. And if you already reload for 30-30, .30-06, .308, .300 winmag or a slew of others, youve got plenty of projectiles to choose from. Just match it with a widely used powder that suits a number of loading options and its an easy add to your reloading bench.

[@Daekar3]

Since my SHTF scenario out here in the country doesn't involve me pretending to be Rambo, I have made different choices. I have a bolt action 223, but my primary guns are 22LR and 357mag. Both shoot great in both pistols and rifles, and can be both super or subsonic. Custom heavy 357 bullets make it fantastic with a can, and full power loads will knock down a deer no problem. I would really love to get my hands on a double action 8-shot revolving rifle in 357mag, but I haven't had the cash lying around to get a custom one done. I have almost no semi-auto guns left, mostly because I can't afford to be losing brass all the time, but as a side effect I now have a group of extremely robust and reliable guns. Single shot rifles and revolvers don't jam, and they can take a ridiculous variety of loads and bullet shapes.

[@lumpyzx2645]

Revolvers don't jam until they do, and often when they do that have to be disassembled to fix, a good revolver tends to be more reliable than a good semi auto until it comes to harsh conditions like dirt, sand, mud, etc. Don't get me wrong though, I love revolvers, whether SA or DA/SA, favorite revolver barrel length I'd probably have to say is 4⅝" but always feels good to shoot an 8 or 10" 44 mag, snub noses are fun too but I just wish there was more of them that are actually accurate, idk maybe I just need to shoot a snub nose python or something, never shot a python unfortunately. But absolutely agree on policing brass, sucks bending over and looking everywhere to find it from semi autos, and I also agree on 22lr, stack them mini mags deep and they're honestly capable of handling near any situation, they can even kill a grizzly although I'd be running for that 357 and not even look back at the 22, most likely just make it mad with that lol

[@Daekar3]

@@lumpyzx2645 I think that's a fair assessment of the jamming issue with revolvers. If my S&W got out of timing, I would need some serious help or at least education to diagnose and fix the problem. On the other hand, while problems with semi-autos is so common that I almost don't even notice when they happen, I have literally never had any kind of failure with a revolver except for a dud 22LR primer, and that includes my 1895 Nagant. Well, I didn't notice failures in autoloaders until I got revolvers. Now I notice them every time they happen because they're so jarring.

[@nelsonr1467]

What do you mean pretending to be rambo?

[@dthundergunb3115]

I agree with your assessment at the end about picking one or two pistols and mastering them and maybe one or two rifle types as well, would be the best advice I'd suggest as well. I am a reloader so I keep around 1k of primers for whatever size I need. Plenty of powder now that can load plenty of casings. Also I always looking for scrap lead and zinc so I can cast my own ammo. It not only cuts cost it also helps me be able to still shoot even when availability is scarce. I have mastered the 1911, I'm now working on the Beretta 92X RDO now. I got a KP-15 lower monolithic polymer lower and it's badass and I got a couple BCA uppers one in 5.56 and one in 300blk

[@cf3661]

900rd for my SKS and about 2000rds for my tactical shotgun in various shots and 600rd for my 22 Vector. I figure that’s a good start for my hunting and defensive needs.

[@Kai-ky6tf]

.22 is not defensive 🤣🤣

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Do yourself a favor, sell the sks and get a zastava ak. It’s like the sks but it’s better in every single way. The extra 4 inches of barrel only give the sks 11 more fps at the muzzle, yes you read that right. 11 fps. The ak has more rounds. Every bubbad sks to retro fit 30 round mags or ak mags are alway finicky and people can never get them to work properly and by the time you have retro fitted your whole sks for rails , 30 mags to actually work properly, tactical stock with pistol grip etc, you could have just paid for an ak that won’t be a finicky garbage rod with cycling issues. And the sks will still have issues even after you think that 30 mag is finally working. Ak ergos are much better and you dont need to bubba the top cover for a rail to mount a scope on the ak since zastava ak has a mount on the side of the receiver for a mount on rail system. I had an sks, even cleaned the cosmoline out of it, then I sold it and bought an ak and realize just how much better it is.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

Also sell the vector. You only bought it because it looked cool. They are problematic. You be better of buying a cheap ar like an M&p and retro fitting it to work with 556 and there’s company’s that sell kits with bolt carriers and a 22lr mag to convert it to shoot 22lr. Since 556 is a .22 bullet, you don’t even need a different barrel, just swap the mag and bcg and your shooting .22 out of your ar. I f you want a pistol caliber carbine type, get a cz scorpion.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

You’ll want both an ar and an ak for defense, and large hunting round like 308 or 30-06 for hunting game such as an ar10( psa makes decent ar10 for a decent price) or a deer rifle. And a 22 rifle like a 22 ar or tye best 22lr rifle on the market Is hand down a ruger 10/22. And a handgun in 45 or 9 whichever you prefer. Both have very similar ballistics, it’s almost impractical to go with 45 these days though since 9mm has progressed so much that it’s performance matches the 45 . 45 cost more and you carry less rounds so for me 9 wins for handguns. More ammo means more training and more rounds carried for my 9mm

[@bradtaylor1766]

I started the paring down of calibers 15 years ago and I agree with you. It was getting unmanageable and I just referred to certain possible scenarios, calibers and long, shot or pistols that fit that particular scenario and I was really proficient with. Great post Magic Prepper...

[@stephen8176]

Luckily (for once) I thought about this problem when I started prepping, and did research, and decided to only buy four types of ammo: 308, 5.56, 9mm, and 22LR. I've stuck with this plan, and I'm still happy with my decision.

[@MagicPrepper]

I envy you.

[@Darthdoodoo]

Add some 12g for the veriety of different hunting loads and you are good to go. Some things are waaay easier to hunt with a scattergun like birds in flight or fast lil critters

[@dvereckis]

22lr smooth bore and rifled long guns with appropriate ammo, 7.62x25, 7.62x39, 303 british (backup caliber due to limited available amo), 7.62x51 my primary caliber, 50cal muzzle loader (fun toy) and lastly 12 gauge with slug buck and bird-shot selections. I try to buy several of the same model of each firearm and a selection of spare parts of the most common to fail components for each. All selections were made based off of affordable readily available ammo that use a common cleaning/service kit in models that are more rugged and heavy built then trendy.

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Safe bet. Stock up on government issue Calibers. So you have 1000 rounds of your favorite caliber for Training. When shtf. You ammo is not being made anymore. But military Calibers are stock piled by the billions. What can you carry to the next fighting zone. And what caliber is going to be available there? What is your enemy using. Have those Calibers. Because your enemy is your supply chain.

[@NavyVet2243]

Advice I was given a long time ago was to get the weapons that the military uses so that way if you ever need ammo you always have a source for more...

[@GucciBlanket]

When you talked about the caliber that you accidentally fell in love with I feel that 10mm is by far my favorite caliber now that’s the real gods cartridge not .45😂😂

[@MagicPrepper]

I have a 10mm on the way for this exact reason....

[@GucciBlanket]

@@MagicPrepper you just earned yourself a subscriber sir. I love how the 10mm has been really making a splash lately I remember 2-3 years ago the ammo was almost impossible to find the only 10mm you could find was a Glock and now it’s just making it’s way into everyone’s heart even the manufacture’s 🔥

[@Dobie_ByTor]

It’s a handloaders dream too. I regularly shoot AR platform 5.56 and 10mm/.40SW. Haven’t bought commercial ammo in 10 yrs. If I’m on foot, great calibers for both EDC/SD and game. 4 mags for each. LB vest and medium sized backpack for food, water, fire/shelter and medical.

[@Andrewy27]

I would also recommend not deviating from a particular cartridge too much. Decide whether or not you're going to shoot M855 or M193 (preferably by testing how well your rifle shoots it compared to the other). If you zero for one, you will be off with the other, and you don't want to mix them in together in your mags because you'll be shooting straight for a few rounds then be off the next few. Some people might not know this so I figured I'd throw that into the conversation.

[@dbelex]

Or you could buy some quality ammo............

[@Andrewy27]

@dbelex whatever you buy, buy don't mix it up with other cartridges.

[@richardkamowski4656]

My goal is 10 thousand rounds of 223/556 , 9mm 10mm, .40 and 7.62x39 and 5 thousand rounds of 308/7.62x51 and 45acp and 357 sig and 12ga

[@gravybiscuit4266]

I'm sure glad I've got great calibers like 40-82, 33WCF, 41 Colt, 14 gauge pinfire and 5mm remington.

[@NoIwont]

Hand loader!

[@PenitentEngine]

An Amateur practices til he gets it right, a master practices until he can't get it wrong...

[@jeremycollins3408]

Muscle memory

[@PenitentEngine]

@@jeremycollins3408 💪

[@austindecker7643]

Practice your 50 yard sprint shots like the delta guys then if you wanna be a master train like a delta

[@drsnarbethyaimed.6430]

Happiness is having a father thats been reloading since the early 70s.Set for life on ammo.

[@hotmetal459]

I stock m855. Good, moderately priced, and it ruins my steel targets so I’m not tempted to use it for practice.

[@Sercer25]

Trade it for M193

[@jstud999]

The only problem is m855 is trash compared to m193. I’ll take m193 any day of the week over m855

[@hotmetal459]

@@jstud999 how is it trash? I do prefer m193, but trash to treasure seems slightly off.

[@hotmetal459]

@@Sercer25 no

[@Sercer25]

@@hotmetal459 it's not as accurate, and all across the board a poor round. that being said, its still viable just outperformed by m193

[@getinthespace7715]

I've got a few things I would stock. Pellet Rifle - If things really really hit the fan this is all you need to quietly pick up small game without drawing attention. About as cheap and simple as it gets. Requires no powder. 22 LR - not silent but cheap and again good for small game. 6.5 Creedmoor-good round for defense or bigger game like deer. I like the 6.5 CM AR10 options. Some shoot accurate out past 1000 yards. Lower recoil than other similar performance cartridges. .300 Win. Mag for anything bigger. 12 gauge bird shot, slugs, buckshot. 9mm pistol. And .300 blk self defense. I'd put a silencer on everything that makes sense.

[@maverickmacgyver]

I set my baseline to 1000 per GUN even if that gun is an existing caliber.

[@TheVisualVanguard]

Same, but handguns get half.

[@Flintlock1776]

Very good advice, especially being really well equipped and trained on prioritized systems. It's the difference between being a gunfighter and a gun collector. I would add this....Personally, I have a pretty good stockpile of some popular ammunition that I don't even have a firearm to feed it to and I maintain it only for barter or other contingencies. I don't go out of my way for it but if it comes my way or I see a really good deal on it, I'll take it and just store it. This came in handy during the Covid supply chain issues when ammunition of any kind was stupid expensive and hard to fine. I give firearms classes and the demand for those classes went through the roof but people didn't have ammo so I was able to continue giving classes, provide ammunition at pre-covid prices, and still make a profit. Just a thought.

[@hotmetal459]

I don’t stockpile pistol ammo for shtf. Not good for hunting, and John Wick is a fictional character. 250-500 of quality hollow point will be plenty for me. Sky’s the limit for rifle.

[@PBerBlueCobra]

Was wondering where this video was going. Thought it was very well put. Great video was impressed on your take.

[@MagicPrepper]

Thank you very much!

[@PBerBlueCobra]

@@MagicPrepper you're welcome! First video of yours I have seen. I'll have to check out your others.

[@lordbeeg1]

300bo is a beautiful 10.5 platform. As for calibers.... I try to keep to mostly nato rounds and what my local Leo uses. I also have a few types of hunting rifles and I keep as much as possible of 22LR

[@MagicPrepper]

The one in the video is a 9" barrel. But so far so good.

[@2amichaelj]

I mainly train with 2 platforms. A Glock 19 gen 5/Glock 17 gen 5 and AR15s chambered in 5.56. If SHTF I will grab my main squeeze. I also shoot my 300 blackout, 357 magnum, 38 special, 44 magnum, 380 acp, 45 acp, 22LR, 10mm, 458 Socom, 762x39, 12 gauge, 20 gauge, 6.8 SPC, 308, 30-30, 30-06, 45-70, 6.5 creedmore and while I don't stockpile ammo for those cartridges, if I see a screaming deal on any of those, I'll buy a few hundred rounds just to train or have on hand. In a SHTF situation, you won't be able to run to the store and buy your preferred ammo choice. If I come across something, it's nice knowing I have something that can shoot it. This isn't the easiest or best way to prepare but I also like knowing the limitations and pros to each cartridge. That's only something you can truly learn by shooting. You can also get somewhat proficient in the general manual of arms for multiple platforms that way if someone hands you a weapon if you're unarmed or you find one off a body or in a cache, it's nice knowing you'll know how to maintain it, use it, break it down and clean it too. If you're only proficient in ARs and then find an SKS, AK, Galil, mosin, whatever... what's the likelihood you'll know your way around it?

[@Turtleterr0r01]

I just try to have a thousand rounds for each gun, but apparently that’s seen as “overkill.”

[@RicArmstrong]

If SHTF ammo will be worth more than gold.

[@Turtleterr0r01]

@@mitch511 @Ricochet they’ll also want toilet paper, but I digress.

[@Sercer25]

No such thing as overkill until you get into '20mm' and above. Even then, no such thing as overkill. If it breaths and it's a threat, throw a nuke at it.

[@RicArmstrong]

@@Turtleterr0r01 Once people realize they can reuse a rag (after cleaning it) they'll not be so desperate for toilet paper. Humans only recently started using TP within the last century.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

@@RicArmstrong well the indoctrinated masses aren’t that bright lol

[@fixedG]

Not to get into specific recommendations because I think you're right on focusing on high-use calibers but I think .22LR is the exception that you should also have thousands and thousands of in addition to your several thousand of whatever go-to calibers you want. If guns are tools, a 22 will do the most for you in terms of practicing simple breathing and trigger control and sight alignment, in terms of small pest control, and in terms of small game harvesting and in terms of training and arming others. It'll do it probably quieter, definitely in a smaller space and lighter weight and definitely for a fraction of even the cheapest 9mm you could stock.

[@lanceculver5900]

I recently purchased and training with cmmg 22lr conversion kit. Good for training and mastering my triggers and scope functions, have 1600

[@stevegant7286]

Don't forget 12 gauge, great for close encounters! 1. 223/556 2 45ACP 3. 9MM 4. 12 Gauge 5. 30-06 or 308. Remember America, handguns just give you enough time to get to something bigger!

[@saltyroe3179]

Hand gun is for when you are doing something else.

[@chris.eskimo]

I agree. Concentrate on your 'everyday, go to ' calibers, and not so much on the 'exotic' or not so common calibers.

[@gunmonkey6545]

It’s always an interesting topic when discussing SHTF, but the problem is that it’s such an all encompassing term that it kind of looses its meaning. It’s also a regional issue. For example, I know a guy who had to evacuate for Katrina and ended up loosing the vast majority of his guns and stockpiled ammo. The New Orleans area broke down into complete lawlessness. The cops who didn’t run away, started confiscating weapons and of course they kept them. I recommend only possessing and stockpiling what you can take with you and buying as you go for training. As I mentioned above, this will be regional because if you’re forced to leave your home in bear country, you will want specific weapons for protection. I have a rifle and two pistols with three cans of ammo that I can take at a moment’s notice.

[@kensnyder9372]

270 ,44mag , winchester , 22 ppk walther ....I love these AR's with the little door on the side , i asked my friend if he put a screen door on it for the summer . He has a pallet of ammo , he has been shooting the things for and he couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was inside the barn .....One thing i know , if you are a marksman one don't need a pallet of ammo ....Oh my rifles are break open single shot !!!!!

[@reiniergarcia]

I have 3 Glocks in 9 mm (G17, G19 & G43X), a Taurus TX22 in .22LR and a Heritage Rough Rider 6.5 inches single action revolver in .22LR & .22 WMR as well. I have 1K rounds of 9mm, stored for a SHTF situation. I won’t use those rounds. In fact, I don’t use 9mm anymore. It’s too expensive. At the range I only use 22LR ammo.

[@kodiakkeith]

Back when you could get it, I bought a number of spam cans of Tula 5.56. These are the actual spam cans that you need a big can opener to open up. Those are put away not for my use but for trade for food, fuel, whatever, to others that failed to stock up. It won't go cheap. My own stock in .223/5.56 is good Black Hills soft points and similar hunting ammo. I have similar cheap 9mm hardball stocked just for trade, while my personal store is quality HPs. I think everyone should have two stocks. One with cheap ammo for trade, and one for personal use.

[@patrickthompson728]

All I need is 7.62x39 and 9mm, my sks and cz75b aren't the best set up but it's what I know and am comfortable with. All you need is a good pistol/rifle combo and maybe a 12ga for versatility

[@torque8118]

I was in Baghdad for two tours and didn’t shoot 9mm one time. In reality it’s just for back up and your rifle is always your go to weapon.

[@johnelliott7375]

Stock it up but make sure you are rotating the stock as you use it regardless of what it is and how long you have had it. If you are going to play around with different guns in the same caliber and suppress the two guns you can do it just going to be more complicated. To keep the stock rotated and in proper sequence for what you are using it for.