Don't Separate The Artist

[@FIer]

Hey guys! I am the poor, underpaid guy, who will now briefly sum up the balenciaga scandal. Balenciaga did a photoshoot including some children holding bdsm gear inspired teddy bears (the Bears had latex and leather bondage gear printed on them. Nothing explicit or extreme though). The little child holding this teddy bear had a confused, maybe scared facial expression. Overall the image just seemed very strange. The image was deleted about 5 minutes after it was posted, not soon enough to be forgotten though. Over time other things were found in another set of the photoshoot, this one showing an office space. Also, this set did not feature children. In a huge mass of documents scattered on a table a part of a court document of the united states versus Williams case (2008), which questioned, if laws against requesting or offering child p. Violates the First Amendement. In another picture a book by Michael Borreman was spotted in the background. Borreman is a painter, who created photo series showing children and toddlers naked, covered in blood and in demonic settings. By now Balenciaga apologized many times, removed all the images for good and is openly supporting various good causes for child protection and other things. That should be the whole scandal, if I missed something, please let me know!

[@FIer]

And jokes, I am not getting paid at all

[@7i7i7i7i7i]

thx

[@mannoxv8500]

Thanks underpaid guy

[@qv-kevjin1449]

Im sure they will do it again. Because capitalism baby, to them anything for sale and get people talking

[@kayEnt3rtainm3nt]

An excellent summary, though if I may be so bold to as suggest that the "BDSM" inspiration of the bears is wildly overstated. The bears were garbed in what would fare more closely align with Hot Topic than anything kink-related. Still a fascinating rabbit hold to dive down though with some of the other hidden details you mentioned.

[@nsquared002]

Wake up babe! A new Fashion Elitist video just dropped!

[@narutofan4545]

You have to actually look good to be elitist lmao

[@Unknown-fr9tr]

I think with this conversation we need to be careful that we are not brewing an environment where artists are not allowed to make mistakes and be forgiven or at least heard which will only add to the pressure of being an artist. Artists are human that's what makes their art beautiful. They aren't robots. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out but we should question if we are calling them out for repentance and accountability or just for instant gratification. Honest repentance and accountability don't happen overnight it could take weeks. Or months and we the people need to understand that if we want true change. by rushing the process of repentance all you are pushing is quick soulless not meaningful apologies and “accountability” that's given to you for your entertainment and instant gratification.

[@JulianSteve]

This is a interesting take. I do believe that it all depends on the situation with the artists. It’s hard to not expect an immediate response from said artists.

[@casey997]

You know what that's probably the best way to do it either they're given an opportunity to grow and become better people or just be like "ah they're human come on"

[@graphicgraphites]

I think at the point that an artist has become a huge commercial commodity... they have an additional level of responsibility and being allowed to "make mistakes" should be done only for very minor indiscretions. These are people with immense amounts of wealth and power in their industry, they have handlers and supporters that will bootlick for them no matter what they do. The powerful usually do not need, nor do they care about, the forgiveness of the general public. They will only care if it hurts their wallets, tbh.

[@bennefib]

The point is that we went from THAT to what it is today, it won't be a full 360 if people understand tha

[@luws4913]

@@JulianSteve forgiveness is an interesting take😭

[@poyo0000]

Uploaded 16 secondes ago why am I so chronically online 💀

[@jom6256]

I think art should not be reduced and limited to elitist practices. Art is a powerful tool to express yourself, it should be accessible. And I agree that we should stop glorifying ordinary people just because of their level of fame or socioeconomic power. :)

[@Unknown-fr9tr]

I think it depends on what you engage with first. If I see the art and engage with the art before I engage with the artist I can separate it. For example loving Kanye music and then finding out about kanyes “personal life” and media perspective . However, if you engage with the artist first you can't separate the art. Because it ruins the experience when engaging with their art. For example, knowing the Hitler and his crime before seeing his art.

[@TEETHHHHH]

Yeah but even if you engage with the art first, you can't deny that learning about the artist completely changes your entire view on the art :/ (dang this is a tough subject idk which answers I agree with)

[@Unknown-fr9tr]

@@TEETHHHHH yeah ofc your view would change but most likely the emotional attachment will still be there. But you have to ask yourself is it the view of the art to me that has changed or is it my perspective of how others see me because I like this artist that's has changed. Many people still have the same emotional connection and deeply love the artist such as Kanye. His Jewish situation didn't change their view of his art. However now because of the way people in society view them. for liking Kanye has changed they have to like him in secrete or try to stop because they don't want to be seen as a bad person.

[@dk-zd5rg]

​@@Unknown-fr9tr I get you! The difficult question is whether you are willing to part ways with the art once you discover something problematic about the artist? It's not so much about how it might influence your own perspectives, but more so a question of whether it's morally correct to continue supporting someone and consume their work despite knowing the harm they might be causing to certain communities. I think the answer becomes clear if you lead with empathy!

[@Unknown-fr9tr]

@@dk-zd5rg I agree leading with empathy get you to the right conclusion. But most don't do it because of empathy most do it for validation from the internet and social points. I wish more people did it for moral reason

[@Unknown-fr9tr]

@@dk-zd5rg and question do you believe in repentance if so can you go back to support and artist you formally liked after they have shown repentance or is it hypocritical? This is question I have been asking myself a lot especially since Demnas come back

[@monke2395]

he must have just recently watched 22 jump street

[@HappiUnpacking]

for real though, both the topic and your take on it are super interesting. can't believe that I've found this channel through insta reels about fashion. thanks for giving me food for thought!

[@toestoestoes1245]

listening to this while eating and pretending that I understand

[@beanienclogs]

Honestly I like this take cuz I've gotten used to the whole 'seperate the artist from their art' idea and it's neat to see another angle on it. The fits are crazy and I love where the fashion sense is going. The whole vid reminded me of the which chipmunk is getting the best head but in a good way💀

[@JulianSteve]

I am ten minutes into the video and so far, I get what you’re saying. If you already have the item or items of extremely problematic artists, you might as well keep it. Give it away or get it second hand. Just destroying products of any form due to problematic artists is not the way to go, especially if you’re poor, working class, and middle class. You do not have the same finances as a rich person. As for a redemption arc for problematic artists… It all depends on your level of forgiving. It’s hard for me to easily forgive artists who repeatedly do wrong things or have a history of doing wrong things. Overall, great video. You got me thinking about this as a content creator who makes commentary videos on calling out problematic public figures😅

[@floorcollapsing]

I, a grooming victim that just told my family about my experience after 2 years of hiding, sat across from my sibling not one week after I came out about it and listened to them defend not one, not two, but THREE groomers/r*pists because they like their music. Absolutely disgusted me, it's not hard to avoid listening to child predators and serial r*pists. Some people say H*tlers paintings were good, then say they can pull the artist from the art. The artist themselves MAKES the art, that's not to say a machine in a factory is glued to the products it makes, people aren't machines. If not for the artists life experience, the art would not exist, art is entirely unique. I will die on this hill.

[@dyastro7479]

I, an artist, will tell you, that it ain't always that deep. R kellys lyrics HAS hints to his crimes. That one clay mation animator who killed hamsters DID do work showcasing mutilated women and children in sexual positions that he wants to poop on, fuck, and eat spaghetti out of. Unfortunately, hitlers artwork doesn't seem to reflect his views. Any artist knows this, there are works they do just because its fun/relaxing. Works they do with a meaning/"self expression". And works they do because others will like it. I'm sorry for you situation, but most people know how to/prefer to seperate the different parts of their personality in different cases. Or it its usually that they just wanted to express something else with their art, doesn't mean they will automatically express the bad part. "I may be a murderer, but i really like painting sunsets in rural areas" Doubt there's a connection. A person can be a womanizer, or hold misogynistic/racists views, BUT still be a decent guy apart from that, or still make damn good food. (Im sure you have family members like that, that one slightly racist relative that you still care for) You cant just go through life making assumptions and uninformed conclusions about other people like you actually know what's going on inside their mind. No matter how close you are, you DONT actually know them, cause you are not them. And most people dont even know themselves tbh.

[@floorcollapsing]

@@seof13 "Hitlers paintings are erm.... ackchully can be seperated! Unfortunately... erm... you're wrong 🤓🤓🤓"

[@palaquium]

I don't have the time rn to watch it fully (i have an upcoming exam around the corner), but i wanted to leave a like for the engagement and your hair is looking amazing!!! great work and i can't wait to actually watch the new vid

[@revasylum]

it is a good day whenever jq upoalds!

[@iio151]

That bag hard asf

[@ellethegenie]

That's a sick bag, I love the staple details. It's nice when you put clips at the end just showing us what you're up to. Also you look attractive AF

[@ComradeIceSpice]

I most definitely separate the art from the artist, I don’t really care at this point.

[@casey997]

Exactly, what the hell can I do?

[@noecarrillo2796]

as a fellow yohji yammamoto enthusiast. i love ur vids

[@sarabjeetvirgo]

Man, love from Delhi, India🔥

[@dud2481]

Another JQ’s video.. what a happy day..

[@Kienner]

this got really philosophical for me.

[@slide387]

>let's define art no thanks >jungian analysis no thanks..

[@stefanurquidi1492]

Jq: “is it really that hard to move on from Kanye” Me “yes” “Absolutely” “It’s impossible”

[@userJ.V.]

Again such an amazing, well thought video and the topic was super interesting + loved the little vlog thingy… keep going Jq !!!!

[@LuisMercadoorg]

Sorry, not only not feeling this one, I even believe you fumbled the ball quite badly with that caricaturesque description of artists at the beginning. Moving on from that, there’s an argument for artist-art separation when you take into account symbolic appropriation (see Foucault and Lacan): aesthetic objects are imbued with meaning from the observer, not only from the creator. For example, Morrisey is quite a horrible person, but I CAN'T separate a sizable part of his work from my personal story; from that night when my then gf now wife and I sang along “How soon is now?” while watching the starry sky. That’s an important part of my story and that’s a crucial aspect of art, how we socialize it, how we absorbe it and internalize it. Does that mean I support what Morrisey has to say? Not at all, f that guy, but I won’t punish my personal history, and thus my identity, because of his backward thinking. I agree, art objects are not created in a bubble, but they do have a life of their own in the wild. Like ideas.

[@slide387]

i don't really get the impression he's equipped to engage with philosophy

[@casey997]

@@slide387 well he's just a fashion dude taking his own interpretation of it so don't hold him to a high standard as he is well just human doing his best

[@LuisMercadoorg]

@@slide387 well, he has cited philosophers in the past, not inadequately.

[@lerorz8517]

what did morrisey do?

[@duanekilgore9130]

You are awesome bro. Love the vibe info and of course the infinitely cool style!

[@sixfitdip]

Psychoanalysis considered to be pseudo science, so I'd take what Jung said with a huge spoon of salt.

[@dajunior2714]

ive always wanted to talk about this but never had a place to do so, mostly bcs my twitter doesnt get this on the feed this is exclusively abt kanye, but i think all this separation from the artist is kinda overblown to be this black and white thing, even though for me it's so easy to NOT separate the art from the artist, but realize that the art is the product of the artist's mind at a certain point in time, its their time capsule per se I don't think i'm necessarily supporting the person kanye is now when I listen to kanye's older works, it's his work before he got radicalized, and its not like its poorly documented the fact that he HATES nazis when he made his first, second album etc. i am aware this logic is very very limited, as with kanye my 1 stream in spotify doesn't change how he lives his day, it legit does not matter to him

[@carolinepvong5114]

It’s not virtuous or tolerant to police what other people indulge in. We should stop punishing people for liking Kanye or other artists you find controversial. Boycotting things they like, lying about their clothing brands, and hiding other things about themselves is a lot of hoops to jump thru just for others who can’t mind their business.

[@lerorz8517]

its crazy how people exaggerate the issues regarding people like kanye. If I hadn't properly heard of the controversy and listened to how awful people described him as I would have thought kanye initiated a hate group to kill people. But that's not at ll what happened he just said some stupid stuff, not a monster like some people in the comments describe him as.

[@KoruGo]

​@@lerorz8517 Man literally went on a rant about loving Hitler

[@lerorz8517]

@@KoruGo how does this disprove my point

[@haventseenhim]

@@KoruGo i completely understand where you are coming from, but at the same time. what does this have to do with his music and does it mean that every kanye west fan supports the holocaust 💀 . not to understate or undermine the extremely disgusting and genocidal behaviour that has killed and traumatized hundreds of millions of people around the world, but I guarantee almost everyone has someone they look up to that one way or another has skeletons in the closet. Does this mean they are an inherently bad person? No. So why are we acting as such.

[@DEMOBLU]

@@KoruGo how about you actually watch the fucking video you hive minded dumbass, he never made a ‘rant’ about loving hitler he said one comment that wasn’t properly constructed with what he actually meant

[@SUB-IN-SUPER]

Twitter: "I'm gonna do something called an 'uno reverse card."

[@GreatNiceCock]

I hate that artists supposedly have to suffer from some mental affects, so "normal people" can tell themselves "i'm not a creative but at least i'm not fucked in the head" and return to their boring life, outsider art and art brut are the quintessence of this attitude. psychoanalysis (wack) and the artiste maudit cliché are on the side of the tyrant and psychopath artists. In the end, you give the artist credentials to the people you think are artists, so please give it to those that deserve it. sick fits and nice video btw

[@botondpakot8140]

i still think you're supporting the artist even when you buy the piece secondhand, it gives the piece resell value, that can make it more appaeling for others to buy, from the artist itself

[@Aquade]

Its not that deep

[@lttrickster5643]

I misread that 86k as 800k, you deserve 1mil dude

[@citizen.spleen]

hey JQ, I know this will kinda be out of subject of the video but I've always wondered how did you transition from the style that you used to wear in like Highschool and College to your personnal style right now ? (like uh, maybe ur inspiration or what did push you to that or how did you discover what you like etc...) hope it's not too intrustive tho

[@deoprb]

i feel like in music, you definitely still can separate the artist from the art. recently kanye has said some of the most outrageous things but i dont think that makes you a bad person for listening to kanye especially if you've started listening to him before all these crazy controversies. imo, as long as the music you're listening is not about a sensitive matter, its pretty much okay. i dont think its as easy to leave an artist that you loved for so long just because of some controversies in the recent times. in the case of enjoying art = supporting the controversial idea of the artist, i dont think musicians make the most from streaming services or how many albums they've sold but their merchandise definitely makes a huge profit for them. so for me if you want to keep listening to kanye then thats pretty much okay as long as you dont actively buying his merch and praising him for everything he says online. great video though JQ

[@carolinepvong5114]

Is it tolerant to police what other people choose to indulge in?

[@deoprb]

@@carolinepvong5114 honestly it depends, like i love to listen to the smiths and morrissey as an artist but i disagree with his politics so i dont blindly take in whatever he says about anything even if its about music. therefore i think its unfair to say that as someone who listens to the smiths that i am also a racist like him. same thing with kanye. even if youre a huge fan of some controversial artist as long as you know that the artist that you like is a terrible human being then that doesnt mean that the art they produce is also bad

[@HappiUnpacking]

thank you, jq, very cool!

[@SuperBrutalCabbage]

Don’t tell me what to do random guy who was recommended to me via the KZbin algorithm who, coincidentally, I’ll never watch again as he’s telling me what to do via his KZbin video title.

[@Loupoonug23]

Love you takes Omy gosh, lot of balance and critical thinking ❤ I also really like philosophy. For me overall, I think we should not really idolize people or celebrities, they are human and can also do wrong. After all, it also depends on what they may have done, like some people now a days get canceled for the tiniest things. Though for something like Balenciaga personally I will not buy their clothes or promote them. But in some occasions though like for some philosophers, they did not always practice what they preached, but we can’t say that their ideas and pieces of work are very helpful. That is why at the end I think we should just think for ourselves, use the good that we see in others do do better ourselves. Though maybe from a philosophical and fashion point of view these are different?

[@Peter-zp7yq]

tbh i don’t even usually go as far as to monetarily cut off an artist if they’ve done something problematic. like… there’s very few situations in which i would want someone to just be broke or lose their stability especially if art is their main source of income

[@willianalee6336]

They are rich they will be fine plus they can always idk get another job?

[@odysseus6677]

Please make a video on summer clothing & fashion

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

Kanye is literally the worst example people use. Imagine getting pissy that a mentally unstable person said no-no words while not actually doing anything to anyone. It’s not like there’s a million better examples of people actually hurting others or anything 😂

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

There is two main flaws in this video: "Separating the artist from the art" doesn't mean you literally take art out of context and pretend it just happened on its own, it rather means that you treat every piece of art from an artist individually, agreeing to roleplay in some way using the concept of "death of the author" (avoiding "I don't like him so his art sucks"). When it comes to Kanye for example, I think his music is not valuable just because of the sounds he put in a DAW, but rather because of how it resonates with me. Only because he is an asshole doesn't mean he can steal what it means to me from me. It also seems like individual artists like musicians and designers were put in this video in the same box Balenciaga and DNG went to. First ones are individuals that aren't necessarily evil, they just have this one view (or more) that isn't compatible to current society. Even if they are wrong, it's just them at a given moment in time and they can change. When it comes to big brands making "mistakes", it's not really a mistake because many people have agreed to it. There is much space between having a dumb photoshoot idea at Balenciaga and posting it on socials. You can't really talk about a mistake, it's just that big corporations don't care about people and are inherently evil, those ones are just worse in comparison and you shouldn't buy their clothes in the first place and not only when they got caught.

[@musclemus3um]

Overthinking, the KZbin channel With love, an advocate overthinker

[@TEETHHHHH]

Separating art from the artist can be very harmful, cause a lot of the time, the art is literally the artist. My favorite example is the The Crow comics.

[@JulianSteve]

Exactly. That’s what some people do not understand about the “separating art from the artist” approach. It can be hard, especially if your principles do not align with said artists.

[@alvaro7even]

I disagree about your conclusion, cause I wasn't sure about subscribing to your channel until I saw this video, so it's a banger to me. Thanks for talking about this issue and elaborating it so nice. Luckily I don't own any Yeezy, Balenciaga, Wang or Gosha. But I own some D&G I thrifted... so I feel kinda guilty or in a weird position (I'm thinking about it).

[@decomposed1331]

real shit dawg

[@DaviRenania]

Brands aren't artists or designers. As Umberto Eco puts it, there is the ideal-artist and the empirical-artist, what matters for art is the first. And please don't put Art, Useful Arts and Design in the same bundle. They are different. And neither are subjective. Subjective Taste is a petit bourgeois invention from early 18th century.

[@jrdmgl6190]

Slay the house down boots king

[@surviverofdangebro9799]

Oh hey i remember having this conversation in da discord 😭😭. Funnn conversationnnn

[@joesalmon5535]

I read that 90% of poets have depression or mania, but I don't know if that's true.

[@videospielesindkunst]

I‘m very happy you have the same impression of overly happy people. I‘m always insecure with my impression of them, because I dont know if it comes from me not being mature OR the rational idea, that it is weird to be or show yourself this way in the context of our society

[@Otcho_s]

SHADOW ? PERSONA? MASK? WTF ITS LIKE THAT ONE GAME!?!?!

[@Lesbomania]

Well done

[@seanyeo5514]

The quandary I have with the notion of artistic talent is that, as a person who himself feels he has a heightened aesthetic sensitivity (whether that may be objectively true or total aggrandisement) I always feel like the artist needs to be tortured and, what is more, be conscious of that pain in order to truly make good work. contentment does breed mediocrity even in the talented. I used to resent my parents for what I now know was a discombobulating mix of material indulgence and emotional turbidity, but as a person with a love of storytelling, I realise how much that fed my sense of imagination as a child. I had to delve into an internal fantasy world to cope and it made it that much richer as a result. The cruelties and sexual precociousness that resulted even at a young age could have led to very criminal adult consequences if I did not keep them in check, or was not aware of them. And I have led a surprisingly vice-free and insignificant life. I often wonder if I had escaped such a downfall partly because (perhaps due to my mediocrity) fame never came my way, and both financial success and adulation were never allowed to cloud my view, and it has taken me a Long time to feel fortunate for my anonymity. I think those are the swords of Damocles that most famous people cannot deal with.

[@Pedro-ql4pq]

I just couldnt not think of Persona 5 watching this entire video lmfao

[@hoangnguyen6569]

What about art from long before an artist or brand got into a controversy?

[@alexandercyan2769]

Usually also depends on what kind of art you engage in. I see a lot of people mentioning Kanye as an example but that is also not that bad when compared to other extreme music genres like Punk and on the other hand Black Metal. In my opinion the art should be seperated from the artist in order to fully enjoy it and interpret it your way. However while enjoying the art itself, no direct support such as buying the art itself should be done. You can freely listen to the music on youtube, spotify or whatever (i know it's still monetized) but even if the music/art itself is a 10/10 you should definitely refrain from financially supporting the artist if they're a dickhead.

[@christopherwong1782]

BRO GOT A NOSE PIERCING

[@numbgirlcrybby]

on my break so can’t watch rn but u bet i liked and commented SO FAST 🫶🏼

[@gus29361]

Gotta say, as an artist, even mor specifically a designer, i was apprehensive to watch this. You changed the thumbnail & title so many times, i couldn't figure out your stance. So i went ahead and watched it. Overall, yes. When i was in university for theatre it was common to say that "theatre attracts the broken." Artists have been caught many times saying if they weren't artists they would be criminals. That one mid-century german is a prime example. So yes art is inheritly derived from a dark place, usually. It's often a cope. I know it is for me. So i agree with you there. As far as economics, people need to know their own purchasing power. It's known as the power of the purse. If you truly don't agree with a brand that widely advocates for certain ideas then simply don't buy it. You have the power to stop them producing. Simple economics. If you deplete the demand the supply will diminish as well. I think you are able to explain the complexity of this well. There are layers to this. Thank you for your take, it gave me food for thought today :)

[@defaultguy0_057]

ive came when you mentioned jung

[@vergilsparda894]

Dude, You're literally Aizawa from MHA. 🔥🔥🔥

[@Killstinkz]

Frl😎(farted really loud)

[@jayloncollins9681]

Invest in a bed frame dude holy shit. NY guys will have no fridge but hell of clothes.

[@Splahsgv]

The backhanded and straightforward liberal and conservative hate in these comments is disgusting. Not every liberal or conservative is a terrible person because politics are fluid just like people. Libertarian for life 💙 Just look at how many people are leaving NYC and California. Love it

[@TEETHHHHH]

I have a feeling this videos gonna reach the wrong audience...

[@nymphologies]

whether you’re buying something direct or second hand, there’s still a conscious decision being made whilst aware of said controversies or deplorable behavior. i don’t think it’s fair to morally differentiate the two when at the end of the day, as you said, there is still a representation of the brand. the act of purchasing second hand is still contributing to the flow of these pieces and wearing it is actually what allows these brands to stay in style. personally, it comes off as virtue signaling to make note of a piece as second hand, as if this eliminates the background or history of a brand and the designer. in other words, when a piece is on the body, what is really the difference?

[@averagemale9401]

I don’t think it’s entangled in virtue signaling, unless the person denounces people for enjoying controversial figures. Clothing isn’t easily identifiable unless there’s logos but high fashion tends not to have logos unless you buy those pieces. So no one would really know you’re wearing said person unless they are deep into fashion but that’s debatable. Second hand buying is tricky sure you don’t financially support the brand but you’re still a billboard in a sense only if you tell people who you’re wearing.

[@Tuariq1]

​@@averagemale9401 imo this is not about how other people perceive me. I simply don't feel like representing values of a brand that i dont agree with

[@nymphologies]

@@averagemale9401 fair point on logos and i think my bit on virtue signaling definitely hits a certain group of people though. there is a ton of existing hypocrisy in this topic, especially nowadays. everyone is very obsessed with signaling their beliefs, but also crafting the way others perceive them. this means “problematic behavior” is a no. i still am not sure on the virtual differences between direct & second hand purchasing from a controversial brand or designer. besides your contribution to a sale which most likely will be fulfilled by someone else, what is left when both are worn? i feel like i’m repeating myself and maybe now a bit more assumptive but at the end of the day it’s a personal decision.

[@nymphologies]

@@Tuariq1 this is completely reasonable, i think this decision is personal. i just don’t enjoy seeing people attack others for wearing or listening to something if they’re not actively dismissing or excusing the deplorable behavior. it seems impossible to be completely aware of everything everyone has done and in that i think there is some hypocrisy.

[@ayokevin287]

But think about all the drip not being worn

[@astridallenmand917]

since when designer's clothes became immoral to wear, while folks do not pay attention what mass market brands are doing to make these millions of pretty cheap pieces everyday. Due to this canceling everything immoral it is more proper just buying everything at very small independent, unknown, silent family brands, which didn't do or said anything immoral

[@MaxRollison]

Well all you really have to blame is the government for this, which is made up of people who we think are making rational decisions to regulate what goes in and out of the country, and what value is attached to it based on how it was made. We believe people to be rational who are in the government, but there is always corruption for people who have power in the government because their personal ideas and emotions have a role in their choice, and they are more informed than normal people yes, but that doesn't mean they don't have a flawed view of what is right and wrong and the concept of what is fair because of things like their own economic status, religion, pride, etc.

[@astridallenmand917]

@@MaxRollison I don't quite like the idea of expanding government's interference. Especially in questions of morality which is really essential as I was trying to express previously. In my experience anything government touches appearing to be corrupted, broken and it creates wrong stimulations for people, making them turn new regulations into a momental profit, or other type of behaviour in dodging regulation. It's not obvious what you meant blaming government in people's choices for clothing market. But I already have this in mind

[@MaxRollison]

@@astridallenmand917 I was just wanting to add that if you buy from immoral sellers, it could be that the sellers themselves should be acted upon with restrictions rather than having to force that decision on the buyer. Of course, because the seller may be immoral, we shouldn't assume they aren't, but we also aren't always told or know

[@Tuariq1]

So buying things second hand is a form of moral money laundering? X to doubt

[@Tuariq1]

I think if you rep a brand you also rep their values. If someone wants to wear kanyes clothes shure go ahead but I'd rather not rep some clothes by a guy that looooves n4z1s

[@averagemale9401]

Moral Money laundering lmaooo

[@zachariah7114]

@@Tuariq1 you misspelled Nazis

[@huyharth]

I believe that the current youth is more inclined to the feelings of depression that you described when mentioning people who are seemingly very happy because they have worries. I once worried, but now that I have a stable income and have achieved many personal goals of my own I feel as though I quite understand those who I used to look upon with that same skepticism

[@ayokevin287]

I spent 10k on yeezy. Gawd damn it

[@davidcarriao9895]

12:04 I can see where you going, and understand it. But still think u r a little pessimist, or maybe I am very optimist with ppl and life.

[@zipey2453]

my iq is 2 low 44 this dawgg

[@Bl4k4l33]

Jq handsome man, any fragrances recommendations??

[@dachidachi3182]

Just curious, does your style actually work with short/average height guys?

[@metalsimon14]

Need that bag 👀

[@depthklocke9009]

why do have to drop anybody. oh i guess people are expendable.

[@mauritz7113]

Looks like im bootlegging all of kanyes music now

[@ethanmiller631]

he's a smiths fan fr

[@joshisasjoshdoes8760]

How ironic coming from ezra miller

[@mauricioparedes9158]

Is that on your nose a small piercing or a pimple?

[@v9466]

Hmm title change I see

[@QuanNguyen-uc2sn]

BUT HE MADE GRADUATION

[@wtfisthisthingdude]

yayyy new upload T_T

[@TAFROB29]

Seperation🗿

[@creamdaddy117]

But i like their clothes :(

[@mariuscorman6997]

Womp womp

[@jayloncollins9681]

Dude you can wear whatever you want. I think nazi uniforms look cool does that mean I support nazi’s no. It’s just clothes. Don’t be a darth Vader niche loser like this guy trying his hardest to stand out. Just wear interesting clothes you like.

[@LeanEnthusiast]

ye didnt do anything wrong he said he loved everyone and he elaborated by saying he loves h* as well he is being a non hypocritical person

[@igorgomes1188]

can i wear my yeezys now?😭

[@catsoup7820]

The illest

[@_fl3x_up_]

The problem with kanye is with all the yes men he's surrounded who says he is a genius for everything he does, which ofcourse leads to shi like the ones he's talking. I also see so people say what he's said is true, like lol, this is why people need to get basic education lmao

[@ethanmiller631]

16:37 ong

[@gupimisuto6408]

nice

[@b.acuzar]

daddy

[@cristiqnl]

kanye the goat

[@acharmlessman]

you should smile more

[@alphaiguess2900]

I'm coming at this from a really odd direction because I wear a lot of milsurp. All of it is thrifted. Most people over 30 don't really mind that, but among my peers I certainly get people assuming I'm a conservative or veteran (I'm neither). I just really enjoy the aesthetic of neutral tone cargo pants, simple t-shirts, etc. It fits well and I happen to be hyperfixated on military stuff so I enjoy the hunt as much as the prize itself. But I still ask myself-- am I endorsing the values of the organization that made this? What am I communicating about my own values to others by wearing this? Ye might be a nazi and Balenciaga might be pedophilic, but the US Army has killed millions of people. That pain fades with more retro items that have a certain nostalgia attached to them, but my beloved 2003-era backpack still has very recent trauma attached even though it's only three years younger than me. How do I reconcile liking this aesthetic with being a good person? My answer is to simply be honest. Yes, I like this thing. Yes, the creator has done awful things. No, I do not fully understand my compulsion to consume it. However, my attachment to this object is related to my aesthetic wants rather than my desire to platform its creator. It is for me, and not them. Also you should make a video about how a ton of fashion aesthetics come from the military, it's an insane rabbit hole. Like literally saw a straight up army jacket liner at a fancy white woman store going for $300. Criminal!

[@tanmay1944]

new jq vid

[@amreview5616]

i don’t think you have a good enough grasp of philosophy to be talking about this lol, im a fan tho

[@ryderflips7287]

L opinion tbh