Don't waste your money on these accessories for your HD Pan America

Buying accessories for your motorcycle is sometimes a gamble that doesn't pay off as well as you had hoped.
In this video I explain why I ditched my 2" extended risers, my Harley Davidson Sundowner seats and my Sport Side Cases for other alternatives.
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Sundowner Seat: • The HD Pan America Sun...
Sport Cases: • All about the Sport Si...

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

I did not do a full review of the Mosko Moto bags since there are already plenty of reviews of them out on KZbin, but if you are interested in seeing me do a review of them, give this comment a thumbs up.

[@user-ub1wd7ex9l]

I checked their site and found nothing for the H-D Pan Am.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

@@user-ub1wd7ex9l Mosko Moto? The bags are a universal fit and they work with the HD racks.

[@HansWurst-iq9xe]

In Germany we say: who buys twice buys expensive! So I’ve got the HD Top and Side Cases in Black Alu - fits a lot and look great! 👋👋👋

[@nw2732]

Another great and informative video mike. Thanks and already looking forward to your next video!

[@wikeywikeywhick3852]

good to see ya post again

[@tickets23]

A appreciate the part of the bags and how you liked the soft bags way more over the sport boxes. I was on the fence about them until watching this. Cheers!

[@carlosparodiretail]

Super video, thanks!

[@rikmeyer1469]

Thanks Mike!

[@user-ph1dp1kk5u]

Thanks for the idea to modify the stock seat. I did the same now. Did cost me 100€ but it is much better than bevor. Thanks.

[@K5WYS]

I have the same luggage setup. It works great. PAS is my daily

[@johnmyers8588]

I have no trouble with the Tall Boy risers from Harley ( I'm 6-3") but I wish I had known about the others because I would have liked the bars to tilt back 1" towards me. Thanks for the video!

[@rideon41]

As a long-time rider that has only done Harley for the last four years, then went with exact same bike as you, I simply don’t understand this desire to sit upright on a bike. You need the forward lean to counter-balance the wind, and to use to bike’s performance. I’ve put over 20k on my PAS now, stock bars and seat, and would never change either. Extremely comfortable, IMHO. I also use the Sport bags for road trips, and absolutely love them, but can certainly see soft bags in my future for more adventure-style riding…

[@user-vh6ey3ks8l]

I just came across your channel. Thanks, well done. I have a 2021 I bought new as well. Also, kudos on the itchy boots sticker and Mosko Moto

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Noraly is my hero.

[@user-vh6ey3ks8l]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel 4 years ago it led to me getting a BMW G310gs

[@cbgunworks7891]

Your reviews are always high quality. I would say ALL hd accessories is not worth the money they cost. To darn expensive! My på is fully equipped and a bought most of it from ebay etc for 1/3 of the cost, and I'm really satisfied.

[@LooxJJ]

I find companies like SW Motech or Lone Rider makes fantastic bags for bikes.

[@jampyzerozero6921]

Hey Mike, read your reply, so here I am. I agree in regards to the sport cases, I am worried about the locks as they seem overly complicated. But I will admit I only used bags once or twice a year so I don't want the extra frames attached full-time. But I'll continue to look at other options before my final decision. Thanks for another great video!

[@stuffmade298]

The lock on one of my bags (sport) broke. The plastic part in the bag broke, so it's impossible to make the lock work. Even though the sport bags are super convenient and the bike looks better when they are off, I would not buy them again and would buy the aluminum bags options.

[@johnnyboy1586]

I'm the same, as I find leaning a bit forward makes you feel more one with the bike especially in the corners

[@David-vb8ih]

Thank You Mike. Great info. You likely may have possibly saved me some money. I am intrested in this bike and you have really informative videos. The info is well recieved and greatly appreciated. Those saddlebags aren't cheap and I never considered mix matching the bags and I must say it doesn't look bad at all. I actually kind of prefer that. Have you had the softsides in scrub brush off road? Do they hold up to abrasion well? You da man, I subbed your channel.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Where I live off road riding is just wide forest roads. No narrow trails really for me to test that.

[@johnnyboy1586]

The first aftermarket excessory I would by for this bike is an after market exhaust

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

I'm in the minority I'm sure.. still rocking the stock exhaust.

[@scottcoleman8016]

Thanks for another great video, Mike - I have a “twin” of your bike so I’ve found all your videos to be really helpful and informative! I currently have the HD aluminum side and top cases but have been looking at the Mosko bags as well. Did you get the offset pair or 35L on both sides? Would love your perspective if you decide to make a video.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

35L for both sides, the bags can be cinched down a bit if they are not full, but I didn't want to limit my available space, don't mind a little bit of offset symmetry :).

[@scottcoleman8016]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel - thanks for the reply, Mike - your thought process makes complete sense but I'm worried my OCD will kick in with the right side sticking out more than the left! One more question if you don' t mind? I looked up Mean City Cycles and they appear to have several different seat mods available. Did you go with one of those from the site or did you go with a custom option? My primary issues are sliding forward into the tank and the width. Thanks again!

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Double Decker mod is what I went with, which is what they recommend for the Pan America.

[@Robert509Marquez]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannelwhat is double decker mod?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

@@Robert509Marquez www.meancitycycles.com/driver-seat-mods

[@Bulcano747]

Hello very informative video thank you for sharing with us . CN you provide the website for the seat in NC ?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

www.meancitycycles.com

[@bones6247]

I have a question regarding starting in colder temperatures for you Mike. I've been watching your videos and it's obvious you live somewhere where it does get colder. Have you had any issues with your PanAm starting in the cold and have you upgraded the OEM battery? Thanks!

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

I have had some cold start gremlins, still working through them. I had the starter clutch update done a few weeks ago, which has helped alot, but I think a year and a half of my battery struggling to start the bike has taken it's tole. Will be working with the dealer to test and possibly replace the battery next. Probably sometime towards the end of Feb I'll be making a video detailing the issues I have had over my 10k miles of ownership and what the resolutions were.

[@gregevancio3031]

Great reviews! When you stop for an hour or two, or overnight, I assume you're just detaching the side bags and bringing them with you? I'm thinking of potential theft.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

for most of my day to day riding, I'm not using the side bags, only the top box. I only put them on when I need the extra room. So for a trip, yes I will bring them in with me when the bike is parked overnight. For a shorter stop, I have cable locks that secure the bags closed and to the bike, but of course that is only going to stop the honest thieves. If I have something like cameras or my tablet with me, that gets locked in the top box. Generally if I'm concerned that I can't leave my bags alone for an hour or so, I'm probably not going to stop in that area anyway.

[@user-fy8ll3ze5e]

2022PAS. I have never had a seat reupholstered. (15 bikes) I have no-idea harder or softer or?????? I just use the stock. After 3 hours I do get a sore butt, but but does that mean harder or softer or what? I would guess softer but really no-idea,

[@BGPD70]

Hey, Mike I'm curious if you've had the same issues that so many of us have had with the starting of the PanAm, throwing all kind of codes, not starting- restarting, stalling on start, mode rides disappeared with triangle warning? Do you know about the/or has your starter clutch gear been replaced? Have you experienced the ARH being wired wrong causing the ride height to work sporadic, code and be stuck aired up?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Starter clutch was replaced a few weeks ago, never had any ARH related issues. Still working a couple issues with the dealer and plan on making a video detailing everything and the resolutions.. though I've not had anything that I'd consider 'major', nothing that has prevented me from being able to ride... so far :)

[@BGPD70]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel copy that, they have mine a 3rd time and I've discussed starter clutch gear service bulletin and redoing pins/wires on ARH, will see. Mine has progressed to the point of cranking once out of 3-4 times with codes, and even more rare a start without. If it's a code/s that affects operation, it has to be cleared and start process all over again. While I'm chatting with you I'd like to thank you for your videos.

[@FLYBOY123456789]

M Man - any reason you decided to go with Pan A. vs the BMW GS bike?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Nothing against the BMW, but it just feels big for me.. not just the height, but I prefer bikes that just feel narrower and smaller. This is the same reason I don't care for touring bikes with big fairings. But the what sealed the deal for me was the ARH feature of the Pan America, given my short inseam :) .

[@runeveryday1069]

Mike curious what you think about the Quickshifter any desire to use one ?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Quick shifter won’t work on my 21, only available for 2022 and up. So no quick shifter for me ☹️

[@runeveryday1069]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel forgot about the '21's and no quickshifter. I in no way am qualified to influence but I like the QuickShift on my '22, curious what others think ?

[@chueb]

I'm 6'5 I test rode a pan America the other day and loved it. Should I get a pan America or a BMW 1200.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

I try not to get caught up in the debates of which bike is better, regardless of the bikes in question. The best bike is the one that does what you want for the price you are willing to pay. BMW has been making the GS for along time and it has a loyal following and is a very good bike. I have several co-workers that ride them and love them. For me, the BMW just didn't appeal to me. It felt big (I'm only 5'6) and I'm really drawn to the Pan America because it's different. If you are torn between those two bikes.. ride both and go with whichever one calls to you :) .

[@chueb]

@@Peter-nm1ps yeah I ended buying the pan America and it broke down at 800 miles. Harley couldn't replace the piece that broke. I should've sued them. Ended up scamming myself and trading it in for a low rider S 8k over MSRP. Fuck Harley Davidson

[@steveburton3728]

Did you mount 35L Mosko bags on both sides or 25L on right side?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

I went with 35L on both sides.

[@steveburton3728]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel Thanks. Really enjoy your informative videos.

[@tennyis28]

i'm debating buying a pan america, are you still enjoying yours? how many miles on it?

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

Yup, 15k miles and no new issues.

[@tennyis28]

@@MikesMotorbikeChannel that's great to hear, so many horror stories haha I can get a 2022 special for the same price as an africa twin adventure sports, I think the harley will be a much better 2up touring bike

[@stromtrooper4478]

I have the base model. Harley has a way to go to compete with the other ADV bikes on basic equipment. No factory option for heated grips, all the other brands come with them or are at least a factory option. Non locking fuel cap,WTF!!!!!!!!! Every bike I've owned since the 70s,all non Harleys has this. For 110.00 extra you buy it, then you have to build the lock yourself and install it. Insane.The side cases, while decent, is another time consuming exercise in futility assembling the locks for them. No one else does this idiotic crap. Access to the air cleaner is the worst design I,ve ever seen. Working on a Moto-gp bike would be easier. Hopefully they will improve on these basic design flaws.

[@loloverland]

I enjoy Harley bikes as much as I hate the company for trashing the customer experience, always on any subject. As soon as you need to deal with them you remember that you promised to never buy an Harley again. Harley worst ever customer experience provider since 1908

[@beejaruess5368]

step one. Don't buy a Harley!

[@gimmeaford9454]

Why?

[@dmac5497]

If you don't want to throw away your money, don't buy a Pan America, I wish to God i had the intelligence to not buy one of these piles of garbage, but alas I rode one and thought "hey this thing is pretty cool, what could possibly go wrong" such a steaming pile of crap, do not buy one of these unless your comfortable literally throwing your money away.

[@MikesMotorbikeChannel]

No major issues for me so far, but I know others have not been so lucky unfortunately.

[@yamomsballs]

Sounds like a you problem, tbh.

[@dmac5497]

@jamesholbrooks8794 💯 it sure is a me problem, I made a huge mistake using bad judgment buying not only one of these but two PA's! First one was bought back as a lemon, second one is not as bad but closely catching up to the problems of the first, just trying to do a PSA to my fellow riders, rent one or borrow one just don't ever own one of these unless you 100% comfortable with the money you spend on the machine having very little return on investment, I own other Harley models and have owned 9 other Harley Davidsons, the PA is the ONLY one I have been absolutely disgusted and disappointed with, I would love to sell mine and be out from under it but these things have no resale value: 2022 PA msrp with ARH and Laced wheels 22,349, add 6k in HD accessories ride for 2250 miles, value 14k.....

[@yamomsballs]

@@dmac5497 hell I'll buy it off ya 🤣

[@dmac5497]

@@yamomsballs make a reasonable offer and its all yours!

[@Rpm68]

Don't waste your money on a crap Harley, worst deal going on bikes, overpriced crap motorcycles, made in America only means poor quality, Japan workers eat our lunch and the bikes are solid

[@ericalger5003]

Buying a Harley is throwing your money away.

[@ScottRod_781]

What are you running?

[@ericalger5003]

@@ScottRod_781 2021 Ninja 1000SX and it is NOT speed limited to 135mph like a PanAmerica.