Don't waste your time

[@LilRoute]

this video's vibe feels like 2020 sweatcicle content and I'm all for it

[@kokushibo7179]

i miss 2020 sweatcicle

[@RONNIE5579]

So good and tasty!

[@fiftyfourm]

mmmmm MMMMMM

[@dresadreemur7784]

Mm god this shit so good

[@stompeez4958]

Its because the game was enjoyable in 2020 and they are having fun rn

[@DarkDemon259]

Master raids need to drop harmonic alloy (the material needed for crafting raid weapons) on encounter and ascendant alloy on weekly challenge completion. Currently the only source of harmonic is dismantling raid weapons which themselves share a loot pool with armor. And ascendant alloy needs to be more available. Add raid mementos (ideally these would be raid specific for unique raid shaders) and give them a chance to drop on final boss kill on master. Give Hawthorne a weekly bounty that drops a guaranteed memento. The bounty could require master completion of each encounter so people are encouraged to play the whole raid rather than just look for a boss checkpoint. Add an upgrade to crafted raid patterns (specifically the pattern and not each unique craft of the gun). Maybe add this function to the "vendor" menu on the side of the relic that gives you relic quests. Have a list for each raid that has weapon patterns (you unlock the "King's Fall" list by feeding the relic a raid memento from that raid so it's locked behind master difficulty of that raid). In that list you can upgrade each gun pattern with 25 harmonic alloy and an ascendant alloy. The upgrade gives the all crafted versions of the weapon an extra slot in 3rd and 4th (you'd still need the relevant materials to craft the perk or their enhanced version). It also enables adept mods for the crafted weapon and gives the small stat boost you would get for masterworking an adept/timelost/harrowed weapon. Edit: How could I forget. Master armor needs to look like master armor. The ornaments from D1 VoG and King's Fall are a no brainer. Of course once you get the armor, you can get the ornament from transmog. I believe this solves all the issues (that I can think of) with master raids and makes it enticing enough without stepping on the toes of existing systems.

[@maniacalcoast2742]

You forgot making the armor look good and add ornaments as a viable reward

[@maniacalcoast2742]

Also if ornaments aren’t dropping from masters it makes no sense to play if you get armor or weapons. Would rather just craft at that point if I’m not gonna get the armor ornaments. High stat armor alone isn’t worth it. Or make it do each encounter is guaranteed a weapon. That and letting adepts be craftable

[@DarkDemon259]

@@maniacalcoast2742 Thanks, ornaments slipped my mind. Added it at the end of the suggestion

[@Laeshen]

anywhere you can earn adept weapons you should also be able to get ascendant shards

[@Emrirwastaken]

Dude if you need asc alloys just play containment, i got 20 from that alone

[@chumumi]

Wish there was master raid armor that you could get that looked cool as hell like all the old raid armor versions

[@Iliketacos091]

But if they put 2 armor sets in the raid how are they gonna have time to max out the Eververse with hundreds of ghost projections and entrance effects that nobody even knows exist?

[@RoachDoggJR.-]

The hardest part of the raid, is getting ready for the raid

[@josephzemanek3953]

Bungie should've had the Age of Triumph raid sets as rewards for master mode challenges. It would've got so many more players to want to try their hand at master mode.

[@chumumi]

Fr bruh either upgraded armor that looks sick asf or this good idea bruv

[@Freelancer837]

Exactly. It's bad enough that Destiny 2 versions of Destiny 1 raids are already the worst versions of the raids, at least give us all the content from the originals

[@ajm0208]

@@Freelancer837 lmao what they are so much better than the d1 versions what are you cooking

[@eth3.n]

Can't belive these guys haven't realized that this raid is actually a remastered raid from D1.

[@DragonTheseHazelNuts]

lolwhat

[@thursday9489]

?

[@dakota2584]

So true

[@Joker-ui9rv]

I beg thee pardon

[@ThirstMeDadi]

You what now

[@novembersmokepierre2616]

“Stun the ogie pls” 🤣☠️

[@TheDarkkilla12]

Still of the opinion of Master is too unnecessarily difficult for a Raid difficulty for weapons that aren’t craftable. Add in the first day modifier and push the adept there. Champions are not needed for tougher content to try new builds when it’s so bottle necked for the season it’s insane.

[@jackdoran1329]

Champions are kinda needed for boss encounters. Without ammo it gets rough

[@SpliffyHusk]

These champs save ammo

[@minhnguyen-fs2iv]

just add hive guardian because fuck people that gonna make the raid more fun

[@Goro4armsneck]

Yeah. 15 light below with some shields but no Champions could be a start. Bungie are scared of people using the same weapons even though Light 3.0/Stasis already encourage different weapon usage and outside of champion content I find myself constantly using different weapons.

[@stormz9351]

Master Raids Aren't hard in the slightest as long as your team is good. Which shouldn't be a problem since if you're doing a master raid to begin with, you know what to do and are good at it.

[@realfake6669]

2:04 then play Overload Bow which is the best Overload mod yet, followed by Overload Stasis Nades

[@TehCheeezyPoofz]

hearing ehroar's voice gettging the shittiest armor in his life mad me chuckle

[@BananaMonkeyization]

Tried to do the totems challenge on master today with the boys. Took us 4 agonizing hours. Highly don't recommend going in under 1590 lmao

[@patrickoakley7890]

Not even touching challenges in general until I'm 1601. Couple weeks from now I'll be there.

[@JA-kr1lz]

@@patrickoakley7890 any higher than 1591 is pointless. You don’t get any extra damage or damage reduction for being higher

[@patrickoakley7890]

@@JA-kr1lz I believe you do. For anything except GMs once you're at or above level, you take less damage, even if it's slight..

[@GoDLiKe211]

@@patrickoakley7890 you can do it in the 1590s, we were between 1593 and 1597 when we did it. Just takes timing and teamwork and survivability

[@Goro4armsneck]

@@patrickoakley7890 Dont overlevel because you are just doing a normal at that point. 1591 is the sweet spot.

[@wickedraptor2651]

Still Impressed that they looked at how good the age of triumph was in d1 and said "but what if we did it but worse?"

[@beny7160]

Old Skool Sweat shenanigans is so fucking tasty.

[@psychadelikz7943]

i love this vid lmfao at the end when your macro was still firing and you were out of the room i was dying

[@nitainprime6583]

he was holding his mouse /s

[@zenjch]

Wait macros aren't bannable?

[@Folfah]

@@zenjch im pretty sure they are...

[@Sweatcicle]

Not a macro, wireless mouse lol

[@psychadelikz7943]

dude my bad i’m dumb def wireless mouse

[@malygos9301]

Master vow only has 66k completions prestige spire has almost double nobody is wasting time on these master modes☠️

[@alexsmith7313]

Does Jeff have a KZbin channel? Cause I need me some more Jeff.

[@tectonik4511]

His twitch channel name is icecide but idk why you would all he does is bitch about the game constantly

[@santiagoperez8353]

I still don’t understand why bungie refuses to add new mechanics to master raids

[@smokeycow]

3:31 is my favorite clip.

[@shortguy312]

Omg this feels like an old sweatcicle vid and im lovin it

[@Suigeneris999]

Bungies way of making a hard mode is basically *1 champion around every corner*

[@Ajalon1987]

Feels like a season of arrivals vid, good times 🥹

[@leftypantaridis5195]

Legit my team in a nutshell in totems. “If a barrier spawns honestly I’m leaving it for the next guy” 💀💀💀💀 my team with the unstop ogres that spawn in normal mode kings fall 💀

[@ScottieDabs]

diggin the Driftveil city music

[@samaron8970]

Me who already got touch: "See why I say RNG is dumb? Even when it favors me, that doesn't make it fair."

[@_spacemadness]

the Black 2 music in the background giving me nostalgia, fun vid tho.

[@shadeymcbones6707]

remember hard mode raids from D1 for people that wanted an extra challenge? I miss those

[@Sneakzombieko02]

I just want to complete master for the ship, it looks pretty dope

[@connorwinkworth4499]

Master weapons should just drop with enhanced perks. If you won’t let them be crafted allow them to drop with the enhanced perks, being adept it means they would still be better than original crafted rolls and give something to chase

[@jamfilledjars]

@5:33 Alex sleeping on the job

[@merve1755]

I already started dying from the start 😂

[@tristen9736]

Only parts that actually felt like master were totems, and those God damn overloads in oryx

[@joecaboose0088]

I put in headphones just to hear the gen 5 Pokemon music more clearly 👌🤌

[@magongaaiswashed]

i miss this style vid

[@BlackFang476]

I already have a touch of malice what are you doing

[@Exo_Tyrannus]

Adept weapons should be craftable. The raid armour should be artifice. Otherwise there is literally ZERO point to do master raids unless you want the seal. That's it.

[@xzeuii]

FranzJ of D2 when it comes to humor, love you smelly boy thanks for the vidya

[@michaelshapard1652]

LFG of guardians who enjoys playing harder content because it’s fun regardless of incentive.

[@Astrapionte]

Not him using forbearance to get gaze 😂

[@mitchellg6242]

adept weapons should be enhanced perks period

[@tyfardy7502]

I’ve gotten 2 touch of malice and still haven’t gotten the hand cannon to drop

[@thebestusername1400]

I'm convinced Sweat plays pokemon cuz that's the background music all the time aha

[@ispres]

more of this

[@stevenbils]

They should add raid mementos

[@wagonweel4200]

Doing raids is just about having fun with mates now. Exotic drops rates to force you to play had the exact opposite effect on me ... if there is little to no chance for any team member to get the drop why bother.

[@awesomeguy9513]

Master mode in D2 is almost useless besides some titles. The weapons if you get one to drop have extra perks yea but if I already have a good roll of that weapon pr a crafted version whats the point of going for harrowed. For master mode why not add the missing kings fall weapon to its loot pool so there’s greater incentive to play master to get exclusive weapons

[@sometoaster5530]

ok

[@xragegaming8165]

This is 8min of my life I’ll never get back.

[@flymasterkyle1277]

I’ve gotten touch twice and I’ve only done 10 runs.

[@coldblizzard5880]

Bro Ehroar’s sudden comments are funny to me idk why 😁

[@Aqua_VI]

No way its me at the start of the video that's so crazy

[@fortniteninja1637]

Yes

[@xylin3683]

Are you using a macro for shooting?

[@slimakovamamam]

More and more im disapointed with master raid . Maybe its time to move from pve to pvp .. or even gambit , who care in the end

[@Rhulk_Disciple_of_the_Witness]

I got touch of malice a few days ago

[@chazslater3465]

Their is no incentive to do master raids, sadly bungie has failed to drop meaningful rewards with some of the hardest pve end game content in the game..surprised? im not!

[@fat4l_dillusi0n]

How he doing dmg with his hands up?

[@Josh-ko6su]

his mouse is in his hands?

[@DucisImperium]

Macro

[@automatedsoul]

5:53 we not gonna talk about his character missing his arm

[@wheeliethebin]

wasn't missing an arm the first person viewmodel clipped through the wall he was stood by, so it just looked like he had no arms

[@shibagamer4305]

Its is la-a-ging

[@carterweibling8963]

i like the new paint color

[@camc7222]

I haven’t watched a sweat video in ages, how was he automatically shooting?

[@zakgreenaway9916]

Don't worry I will waste my time

[@Jacob_Bishop]

I got touch of malice two runs in a row

[@hansiesilver2991]

Well u need to do challenges in master for the seal, so it aint a waste

[@novemberblue4716]

But the seal doesn’t do anything for you aside from make you look slightly prettier. The adept weapons mean basically nothing now, it’s the same story as VOTD, and the armor is just not worth it since you’ll get just as good armor easier through other sources. In terms of giving you anything that actually benefits you, it’s still a waste

[@patrickoakley7890]

@@novemberblue4716 agreed. Crafted weapons with enhanced perks > Adept weapons

[@murcee6291]

Pretty humorous when someone who doesn't grind for Seals or claim any completed triumphs other than Day 1 emblem triumphs tells people who do not to waste their time getting the Harrowed guns like it's the only reason to do Master.

[@sircosta6200]

Where is sweatheart GLAD?? ??

[@eee270]

Idea: raid mementos to turn your crafted raid weapons adept

[@hulky7477]

Or just have it be a a master mementos that is a really nice shader. Why change the mementos purpose?

[@eee270]

@@hulky7477 because mementos are the most underwhelming things for their rarity and crafted weapons are better than adept

[@Phantoms7203]

What heavy linear were you using Sweat?

[@dontemegginson5119]

First was cataclysmic bait and switch and titan/hunter stasis was reed regret

[@Error-zg4po]

Master needs red borders

[@pkmnpwnage]

How was his linear firing on its own?

[@matthewperkins1390]

maybe a macro?

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

Dont feel bad Sweat, I still have yet to get ToM. . Still need to run my Warlock through this week (I know I wont get it)

[@xLaniakea_]

ive run a ton of raids in d1 and d2, only ran master raids in d1 tho, what exactly makes d2 master raids so bad?

[@jonathange4599]

The main appeal of master raids are the adept weapons. However, when crafted weapons and their enhanced perks exist, the adept weapons lose their appeal.

[@slimakovamamam]

Because there isnt any new mechanic , they just add more stupid champions everywhere . And for god sake th drop ? Not even armor drop at good total lvl . Really prefer old D2 master difficulty , this is joke and insult to players

[@xLaniakea_]

@@jonathange4599 i was under the impression that raids after vow all had craftable weapons? I take it that only applies to the normal mode then...and hard mode is just for having 2 different rolls on one gun? Did i also hear that each encounters loot pool is the whole raids loot table now? cuz....yikes

[@Dust796]

@@xLaniakea_ the adepts roll the same exact perks

[@ILoveConsolidation]

On top of that you only get adept weapons from doing the challenge lmao

[@guyguy7923]

Bro why the hell can you craft kings fall weapons but not VOG ones????

[@patrickoakley7890]

Pretty sure they're going to refresh the weapons and perks for VoG and Last Wish when Lightfall comes out.

[@Joker-ui9rv]

I think it’s going to be next season

[@shoblizz21]

Another Master I will not do. No incentive

[@conbawn]

it was good

[@ethanjames5748]

What smg is that?

[@kiwiplaysvr6798]

yeah we made it "harder" slaps more champions in a location :|

[@Crunchu.]

did you guys finish master? "FINISH-". No not yet :l

[@dereksantiago8940]

Whats up with that glitched hand?💀 5:51

[@ethanthomas1148]

Thunderlord with catalyst can output same DPS as the LFusions

[@Iliketacos091]

Maybe if you have Font of Might on your Thunderlord and miss a bunch of linear shots the damage might be comparable

[@riskrunner4532]

I mean isn’t playing destiny wasting your time?

[@Real28]

Says the guy who spent days trying to solo WotMs Siege Engine without tool assists and DID it. Got nothing but glory for it. Some of us don't have a lot of Master Raid completions, doing it for the glory is absolutely worth it.

[@Emrirwastaken]

Got ToM on my 2ndbrun

[@ghibransiregar]

Nah,i love master raid i Wish Bungie make adept weapon craftable no need to make like busted or anything,I just wanna put my adept mod

[@ItsJesterhead]

gonna be the first raid title that i won't get since the master bullshit requirements don't result in rewarding loot or a good accomplishing feeling. i already have fatebreaker and disciple-slayer and this is the 3rd recycled garbage "endgame aspirational" content that Bungie thinks it's challenging and rewarding but it isn't. like why does gambit have memento drops and raids don't? why isn't the raid armor on master artifice armor and yet master dungeons are farmable? this type of design mentality better change in Lightfall

[@lilogden]

Guess im not gonna bother with master xD

[@wompwomp130]

Sadge

[@aidenvia3575]

Master raids need a buff

[@B1POL4Rgaming]

I reckon we should be able to 5 adept weapons and then craft an adept weapon

[@aidenvia3575]

@@B1POL4Rgaming agreed

[@slimakovamamam]

or what about give MASTER RAID FINNALY NEW MECHANIC LIKE it was before ... for god sake , ignore drop , i need actualy challange

[@aidenvia3575]

@@slimakovamamam To much work for bungie.

[@BigBoss549]

@@slimakovamamam this is Bungie we're talking about lmfao

[@Trumpetmultitracks]

1:40

[@FM39__]

Did he see moist critical reacted to his video?

[@Lean_Dad]

I use to love this game, but every time bungie takes a step forward they actually end up 2 steps behind where they were.

[@itsinstinct_6756]

I know people carry on saying “oh just give adept weapons enhanced perks” but in my opinion that would highly take away from the uniqueness of craftable weapons and make that grind basically useless. Instead I think they should do an adept mod overhaul. Instead of making adept mods just “here’s an increase to a stat” they should make them almost like exotic perks. For example, stuff like “critical hits increase crit damage” or “rapid weapon final blows gives a boost to ability regen for the ability with the lowest amount of ability energy” just stuff like that could make them both useful unique and fun to use without taking away from the crafted weapon grind.

[@NeroLeblanc]

You have it reverse. Craftable raid weapons takes away the uniqueness of adept raid weapons.

[@mcch1cken473]

Maybe give raid adept weapond the same treatment as The Other Half? Y'know, one deepsight needed for crafting

[@milzhere]

Craftable weapons shouldn't be more unique or better than adept weapons, period. They either need to add adept origin perks or enhanced perks on adepts. The crafted grind will be fine. They're meant to be dependable target farms, but adepts should be better than crafteds, otherwise they're pointless.

[@IronTarkus876]

The crafted weapon grind is fine because you can craft that perfect godroll, but if you're lucky enough to get a godroll ADEPT from a MASTER raid, then it should be better.

[@mundyy]

shit took me 5 hours and I got the fusion 😐😐😐😐😐

[@zonkays]

A

[@KoninjaX]

B

[@Mrwaluigi777]

These are the reactions I'd expect from people that play 8 hours a day

[@thelaststeakbender3150]

Nah, the master KF is just kinda mid

[@Rezesko]

That is true master King's fall is just extra champions that's all

[@milzhere]

This is the exact type of comment I'd expect from a blueberry who can't hit tier 10 on a single stat. Master raids are a joke.

[@thurstoid9811]

@@milzhere Profile pic suits you well.

[@milzhere]

@@thurstoid9811 ikr

[@manuts6984]

Sweat I got it my 2nd try hope u get ur

[@theredpillneo2296]

Bro plays on pc using a macro for dps and wonders “why is the game so boring” “why was d1 so much better?!” Bc it was only on console and you couldn’t do that shit..

[@mrssniperr4505]

lol i love sweat so much one of mu favorite people

[@SpilcedJeans]

You mean being overleveled makes a joke of the HARD mode? Damn couldn't be me

[@k1llerkomannder]

Your weapons are Power 1580 so they make this dmg, meaning the weapons are 20 Power level under

[@fireexe109]

@@k1llerkomannder Weapons do the dmg of your overall light, not their specific light

[@NikSWBF]

yo

[@boom-jr8vi]

OTK AHAHA