DONALDSON XLC200K | Airbox UPDATE | 10,000km's and counting | Fitment Issues | Indicator Gauge?

[@XploringOz]

**UPDATE** Advice/statements received from Donaldson since uploading video - Do not to open the filter assembly until the element requires replacement. The Urethane seal has a some memory and could void warranty re. seal quality if an element is re-used. If assembly is pulled apart, Donaldson requires a new filter element be installed. Official statement from Donaldson regarding indicator gauges: Initial restriction level provided is based on a standard LandCruiser 200 vehicle without a snorkel. Performance enhanced vehicles, with or without a snorkel may trip the indicator prematurely due to increased restriction. This is not a true indication of remaining filter service life. If the service indicator is tripping prematurely it is recommended to maintain a regular service interval for servicing of the air filter. Should you wish to change your indicator to a 30”H2O set point gauge please contact Donaldson for a replacement Free Of Charge.

[@ausguy4385]

So yours touchs the bonnet sound deading too... 😂 the elements claim is 100k kms... "You shouldn't remove the filter".... Then packs and sends them installed 😅

[@ausguy4385]

My vspec is only Mod and lc200 is stock no tune. So the claim is wrong. I was going to replace with armax one but if your does it can't see it will fix it, but did forward facing fix the pressure? Your lc200 is stock?

[@XploringOz]

@@ausguy4385 Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they come installed it should be a straight up install into the vehicle, no need to take it apart and remove it? It can be installed as a single unit and then the intake pipe fitted to complete the process. Interesting to hear about your V-SPEC results. There's obviously some sort of restriction in your setup there. Is the service window completely red, or is it only just starting to activate? As per the video, my ARMAX snorkel setup works perfectly with no indicator issues. Further, I'm running a tune which has increased boost values and demands more air than a standard.

[@ausguy4385]

​@XploringOz 7min into first video you say to remove for install. It's a harder fit not. And who's spending 1000 to 1400 to buy this and not look? Is no mention in their video not too? Can't remember seeing any sticker nor clearl note note too

[@XploringOz]

@@ausguy4385 Yeah, I did say this in the first video. Although it was easier to install, it's definitely not required. At that time - fitting before official release, I was not aware of the advice to not pull apart 👍

[@dylantaylor8931]

Looks like all the red dirt got caught in the filter media on your chin mate ;) Another great thorough video. Would be great if more channels where like yours.

[@johannesschaller5510]

On your well-considered recommendation, I've just installed one of these in a 2019 LC200. Have to say how impressive the kit is, both in design and construction of the housing and filter and in the supplied kit of parts and fitting instructions. There were a few minor niggles during installation, which I've relayed back to Donaldson, but overall I'd say the company has got this application just right. Thanks Nathan for all your videos, but in particular for the product assessments and experiences.

[@mickburns5546]

Well put, big fella. Explained thoroughly whilst still in plain English so as not to confuse. Always enjoy your unbiased reviews. 😊

[@XploringOz]

Thanks Mick, glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@essential4x439]

Thanks for the support guys! It’s a true please to have the support of you and your followers! Thanks everyone

[@XploringOz]

Cheers guys, keep up the great service 👍

[@stevegeebee2477]

Donaldon have been a world leading filter manufacturer for decades. Most commercial airlines will use Donaldson filters to clean air for cabin air, avionics and cockpit. Their level of R & D expertise is unheard of in 4WD industries.

[@tony613]

I noted the amount of leaves and bugs at the bottom of the filter. Since running the snorkle ram head facing rearwards, the amount of solid matter (leaves, bugs bees) coming into the air box has reduced by 99%,

[@XploringOz]

Yeah, I can imagine. Are you running the Donaldson box setup at the moment? Would be interested to hear whether this introduces any further restriction in the setup.... 🤔 maybe something to test...

[@curiositykilledthecat1557]

It's pretty difficult for bugs and leaves to do a 180 degree turn on the spot. Problem is, air has the same difficulty.

[@janithperumathanthri7225]

I've had it fitted on my facelift 200 for a few months. The fuel economy has improved by atleast 1 litre per 100. The vehicle also pulls harder than before. My only gripe is with the vibration around 1800 rpm. They should have also added a lock piece for the MAF sensor cable. I had to use a zip tie to keep it locked in place. I bought this the same day you released the previous video. Been waiting for this review. I'm really happy with the product.

[@XploringOz]

Mate, that's an awesome result on the fuel economy and power results. Must be happy with that and a true testament to the reduce the restriction and increase element surface area. Interesting to hear about the vibration though. I know there has been issues in the past with vibration and resonance with their factory setup too. Unfortunately I can't comment to much as I've been lucky enough to avoid this issue so far. I think Safari used to make a baffle to try and change the airflow a little to avoid this, but I'm not sure how effective this was. Cheers

[@ausguy4385]

I have found its actually the engine load at 1800 rpm not the intake or exhaust. Most exhausts also drone at that rpm on them too

[@V8LC100]

Do you have a snorkel fitted too, if so what type? Did it drone with factory box also?

[@bicyclescoffee9143]

Excellent video, man. Thanks!

[@mickpyne9589]

Hey Nathan. Great video. Just checked mine(2010) and yes, mine is touch. Ill ring tomorrow. Thanks again for all the great tips and ideas

[@XploringOz]

Yeah, seems to be a common issue on this very particular model/year. It will be sorted soon enough 👍

[@peterknox3950]

Top video Nathan can’t wait to get my filter. Off to Bridgetown today. Good luck with your trip

[@XploringOz]

Morning Peter, I'm sure you'll have peace of mind with the filter too when it arrives. All the best with your trip! Have a great weekend and stay safe 👍

[@overlandphotography]

Well done Nathan. Such important information for us all in this vid as this is a long standing issue that the 200 has had ( along with the handbrake and internal head unit - don't start me on that ). Thanks for your efforts which undoubtedly would have taken time away from your trip. Travel safe.

[@XploringOz]

Cheers Jim. At least it's one out of three solved 😆 It is definitely comforting knowing that I've got the best chance moving forward now 👍

[@greg174videos]

Another very professional video Nathan. Many thanks for the time and effort you put in to these honest and unbiased reviews. 🥇

[@XploringOz]

Thanks Greg 🙏 Hopefully it helps a few people out there make an informed decision 🤞

[@holgermuller2987]

G’day Nathan Excellent review of the new Donaldson airbox and filter. Having read sofar all commences from your viewer , they are also valid commences. Sure, I have also some commences for you and your Audience review. My LC 200 is still garaged and fitted with the airmax snorkel, std Toyota airfilter box and paperfilter running a mild tune and the original ram head. No vibration at all , but a nice airflow suction sound from the ram head. no complain. New Donaldson airfilter box just arrived not fitted. 30 degree brass angle to fit. Should be in the kit or buy for a few dollars Sure to fit with Teflon tape.. both side. During installation. Extruded Foam seal on filter unit: This problem is we’ll know in the Industrie that these foam seals on the D filter press easily together but hardly go back full in shape. There is room for improvement!!!! Request Donaldson to change the cheap foam seal to a much better material Objection to: Not allowed to open the lid for checking inside the airbox and on the filter lower side. Donaldson what you talking about? That is D BS.! I have never heard this from our supplier M&H for their powercore air filters. Foam seal memory effect?! Sorry Donaldson you use the wrong material for the seal !! For such cost of a replacement filter the +2 dollar for a good quality sealing material will not harm much your margins. Donaldson claims longer filter life time which we all belief is true. But on the other hand it MUST BE GUARANTEED that even after 30k and 20 times open and close the lid the seal has to be in perfect shape, function and sealing 100%. That said, should be all customer who bought the system request to Donaldson. I am happy to have paid 1200.- AUD for the Donaldson airbox with powercore filter to avoid a dusted engine and much expensive rebuild or factory new engine unit. But, I disagree in strongest possible way against the : DO NOT OPEN THE LID FOR INSPECTION.. I have also one question to the audience: Does anyone have installed the new Donaldson airbox together with the Top spin H002394 pre filter and what different suction sound noise it makes while engine rev up, full load and back to low or idle speed? PS. Sorry for the extended commence… tomorrow of day and long weekend… PS Nathan Did you weight your new pro core filter unit befor installed? Would be interesting when 0.5 kg dust is inside the filter paper. Check after your 1 year trip and let us know the driven kilometers and weight gain then. Please factor in the ram head and clear view pre filter usage. Safe trip and happy days.. Cheers

[@MrJColtrane68]

Great video Nathan. Been following your channel for a while and I really enjoy your detailed and thorough presentation and information you provide. I too have a 2014 but a GXL. The Armax and Donaldson filter are top on the list of accessories that I'm looking at purchasing soon.

[@crispyinasia61]

As always Nathan, a great video, but this time answering some the questions that I have with the unit. I have TJM Airtech snorkel and my indicator is showing full red the whole time. So i will get in touch with Donaldsons as well. I have to say that whilst i haven't done the Kms that you have, that all seems to be going well. On the flipside the install was a bit more challenging, as there were bolts and the drain plug missing from the kit, and some of the bolts supplied were incorrect, so the install process ended up taking a day and a half, due to having to source replacements and to fabricate my own drain plug as nothing has been forthcoming from Donaldson's so far. That aside, its stopping the dust, which was always a challenge before, so its now moving in the right direction. Thanks for your great vids. 👍

[@GR8Tmate]

Always disappointing when they can’t get the complete kit to you & you’re left mucking around.

[@XploringOz]

Good to hear that it's 'kind of' working as designed. I agree that it's great that the filter element is stopping the dust, but as mentioned here, there are a couple of snorkels that are creating restorations TJM being one of them. Here's hoping that maybe the 30" gauge may help a little more with monitoring.

[@michaelwhite4404]

I probably got your bag of bolts and drain plug as I got an extra set in my kit.

[@jcv551]

Hi Nathan, I’m running the Donaldson filter with the Armax snorkel and have no vibrations it seems to be doing a great job on my 2021 cruiser. Thanks for your review.

[@XploringOz]

Awesome, good news. Happy to hear its working perfectly and hopefully you can continue on knowing you have one of, if the best best filtration system 👍

[@nonspecific4739]

Good review Nathan, I have the same model Sahara, same 120x and now same Donaldson filter. (I blame you😂) I note that mine did not fit exactly using the mounting bolts to chassis. It was tight and had to persuade the bolts a bit (no accident damage to car so not sure about that). I have a trip coming up so time will tell if I have any issues with my setup. Good content mate as usual. Cheers.

[@XploringOz]

Haha, sorry mate, my bad there 😆 The mod list never ends, right? Hmm, interesting to hear that. I found my installation went almost perfectly and everything lined up very well. Be interesting to know what the difference was. Any comments after the trip?

[@tanamite]

Thanks Nathan, I noticed mine was slightly rubbing on the sound-deadening material on the underside of the bonnet the day I installed it, but I couldn’t see that the service indicator was touching. Will check tomorrow AM, but I have only done about 500km on road since I put it in. Will post an update if it is. I can hear the engine is getting more air than the OEM paper filter. I’m still super-happy though. Hope you enjoy(ed?) Tassie! Cheers, Tim Fitted to a July ‘15 Sahara (pre-facelift), Armax with ram head, no tune.

[@tanamite]

Just checked mine and the service indicator is just touching the bonnet lining. About a 5mm line. Does not seem to be adding much load onto the indicator, but if the lining sagged (e.g. became saturated with water or the fixings failed) it would increase the load.

[@XploringOz]

Yeah, definitely a consistent problems for these pre-face lifted models! As you said, I still prefer this over the stand box though... You're right if it were to get wet though, hopefully not enough pressure to damage anything 🤞 Mate had a great time in Tassie, hopefully the episode won't be too far away 😆

[@travismastomasterson2659]

Great feed back mate 👍 👌

[@XploringOz]

Cheers mate 👍

[@aaronhall1114]

another informative and brilliant video, thanks Nathan

[@marcochavanne]

I’d love to fit one of these on my GX470. Planning on a supercharged built using a fully built long lock and the extra airflow and noise attenuation would be fantastic with something like this.

[@bengley77]

I fitted a 30in/h2o CAT restriction meter to mine. So far so good 2021 with ARMAX snorkel

[@XploringOz]

Awesome, good to hear 👍

[@fionaedwardes8801]

Do you remove the original filter element or not?

[@trev10tube]

Good job again, well covered.. I have fitted one of these and the Armax snorkel to a stock 2018 VX. I have noticed a small vibration at around 1800rpm that was not there before install. Have you noticed this on yours at all or heard of it. Thanks Trev...

[@janithperumathanthri7225]

I have the same issue with the vibration. No clue why.

[@iandibley8032]

trev10 tube My LC200 2017 with a vspec snorkel no other mods has this induction noise/ vibration around 1,200 -1,300 rpm also .

[@XploringOz]

Thanks mate, so in relation to the vibration issue, this has been something that has floated around the LC200 community for quite sometime when fitting aftermarket snorkels. I don't really know why this occurs and why some people don't experience it, while others do. There must be some sort of turbulence in the airflow creating this. It's hard for me to comment as I've never experienced this in my setup, now or with the factory airbox installed. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

[@VenidiciRobidici]

Thanks so much for this vid. VEOP in Brisbane have fitted it for me. Mine is an '08 so I may need that lil elbow thingy, haha. Awesome video, sorry to hear you have to replace the element in order to show us what not to do. Cheers for that. I would imagine the leaves and bugs would restrict it pretty badly if not removed/cleaned out after 30k kms even 40k km's? It's going to be interesting to see after your first service replacement.

[@XploringOz]

No problems man, glad you liked it! Yeah 😔 Didn't realise that until I took it out 🤦‍♂️ 😆 I reckon it would too, maybe using a dry snorkel sock would help just to remove that big debris. I couldn't imagine this would restrict airflow and keen it dry and not oiled would interfere with the element, airflow or add restriction 🤔 Will be inserting to read the gauge after a replacement. Hopefully in May 🤞

[@jamesstephens2259]

Hi, have you heard of Donaldson making this type of Air Cleaner for Dual Cab 79 series, as these vehicles also have been dusted

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, yes they are working on that project as we speak. Hopefully release within the next 12 months 👍

[@suepartington6007]

Nathan, would you happen to have a link or contact for the vacuum gauge connection piece. Thanks

[@17th_Street_Preacher]

Better than torqit, other boxes?

[@quinnmarsden9375]

Hi Nathan. I got mine sent out to me based on your video from a few months ago. Recently had my 200 serviced and I mentioned the airbox issues to the Toyota service manager by various owners from a few platforms Lo and behold they dismissed what I said and stated that of its not genuine Toyota Air filters the warranty will otherwise be void. Player dumb. The manager even mentioned it is acceptable to have a light powder on the inside of the intake pipe and outlet of the Toyota airbox. What a seriously stupid comment.

[@GR8Tmate]

🤦‍♂️ Mind numbing stuff……like you can somehow control how much dust gets through before your engine is dusted. There’s some real douchebags in these stealerships. Toyota should be solving this issue & not wobbling their lips and speaking jibberish. Having an aftermarket air filter does NOT automatically eliminate you from being able to put a warranty claim in, however if they can tie the warranty issue to the filter your probably toast.

[@SamsHouseWashing]

Yep, deny deny deny... Counter accuse. Our LC got dusted and there was absolutely zero liability accepted.

[@RocketRod-y8b]

I certainly want to fit one. But I am almost 100% certain that Toyota will make a comment about it during my next scheduled service and "suggest" it would compromise any future warranty claims. It is a shame I virtually have to wait until the vehicle is out of warranty before I can perform this certifiably, perfect modification (read UPGRADE).

[@GR8Tmate]

They could try that but they need to be reasonable with it. Might be time to change Toyota dealers. I had a highly modded 79, took it to a dealer to ask about something & he carried on about the mods, I drove out and into the next dealership who just went about repairing my vehicle. An air box mod shouldn’t affect a gearbox or suspension warranty claim, any service rep that tries to tell you this is manipulating his own Todger. 😂

[@1989cranston]

Mate that isn't how warranty works. You can modify your vehicle, if something breaks and toyota want to blame your modification, THEY have to prove that your modification directly caused it. They legally can't throw a blanket claim that the vehicle is modified and the warranty is void. This has been Australian law for awhile now. How I know this you wonder. I had a heavily modified 2016 ford ranger which threw some engine codes at 45,000ks. Ford didn't want to know about it because of all the mods I had done, which included for the engine bay atleast, an exhaust, intercooler and piping upgrade, air box upgrade, snorkel and a catch can. They tried it is modified and not our problem, I didn't accept them and looked into further. Because of the fuck around they gave me over 9 months. When it all came to light they took my 2016 px2 ranger and gave me a brand spanking new 2019 px3 ranger with all of the modification I had done added to the new one from Ford so now all of my 25k medications are warranted throw Ford. Was a shit experience but it ended well for me.

[@bigfishfishing-111]

No, Toyota couldn't careless until something goes wrong. Then they will say its you 😂

[@V8LC100]

2019 Sahara with Armax and Donaldson just fitted. Car is immaculate no other engine or exhaust mods. Since progressional fitment of both items in one day I had terrible shaking felt through the go pedal. Took it back and they refit snorkel as snorkel bolt was rubbing on guard. They fixed that but still a noticeable resonance at 1200rpm which is annoying. Safari do issue a ‘plate’ for the factory airbox to reduce the drone which they have sent me but they don’t have a fix for the Donaldson yet. I’ve spoken to Donaldson and Safari and said “guys your gear doesn’t play nice together sort it out pls” but my installer said every 200 with an Armax gets the low rpm resonance which I find off if owners with same items are saying they get zero. Didn’t drop this kind of coin on the car and gear to have a drone in such a frequently used rev range. Any solutions fellas?

[@bigfishfishing-111]

I get a slight vibration at the same rpm with a Moonlight airbox. So annoying at first, but 2 years later, I'm used to it, so don't notice it. At the time being a new 200, it Was a downer

[@legpowervideo]

Can you use this airborne on a 79 series?

[@iandibley8032]

Hi Nathan quite interesting report. There was nothing I could find in my instructions re element removal ,that sounds a little odd really the element has to be removed for checks from new and periodically? My Donaldson still has some induction noise at 1,200 rpm I run a v spec. Ian

[@XploringOz]

It's interesting to hear how many different results people are experiencing with this product and goes to show how difficult it must be to produce products like this. In regards to the element removal, I'll check into this re. instruction guides. In relation to checking, Donaldson are working with the thought that the indicator gauge is the only tool used to check the health of the filter. This will provide much more information than a visual inspection and therefore eliminates the requirement to open up to check. How is your V-SPEC performing with the indicator gauge? Any issues? Cheers 👍

[@iandibley8032]

@@XploringOz hi Nathan I just checked the indicator hasn't moved (no need to rest) ,no rubbing present on sound proofing. Re removing the filter on installation, very few mechanics/ mechanical fitters wouldn't remove the cover and check A there is a filter in there & B no plastic or cardboard for transport that could sucked in the engine. I am going to ring Donaldson today. Ian

[@XploringOz]

@@iandibley8032 Hey Ian, how did you go with Donaldson, did they provide any info to help out?

[@iandibley8032]

@@XploringOzhi Nathan yes Donaldson where very helpful we several discussions. I sent photos of the Truma HW strap to you but I am unsure if u received them? Currently in Qld heading to Kimberlies safe travels.

[@robhillman2333]

@@iandibley8032 Can you tell us anymore about the conversation with Donaldson please?

[@4xplor_au]

Great Video Nathan. A question from me, is there an issue with the indicator tripping other than it being hard to tell when the filter really is dirty and needs to be changed? Could you just reset it if you were to put the ram head back on when you left the dusty trails?

[@XploringOz]

So the indicator can always be easily reset at any time. If the restriction in the intake is normal, then the filter will only trip the gauge when it has been blocked or filled up. I could go back and forth with different snorkel attachments, but I'm happy now with the RAM head given the lower restriction and the much, much better filter quality 👍 I'm at 16000km's now and no sign of the indicator gauge tripping yet

[@janfourie7590]

Ask Donaldson to supply a correctly sized cyclonic pre-filter - you can pre-filter 80% of dust in the air with it.

[@XploringOz]

It would help, but I reckon this filter is adequate for the task and doesn't require the risk of implementing any further restriction in the flow 👍

[@ashleydowding7655]

did you buy this or was it given to you?

[@XploringOz]

This was provided. I have been waiting to purchase one of these for about 2 years (hence not replacing the box with another unit) After Donaldson heard of some misfortune with my turbos last November I was offered the first batch of production models to fit.

[@ashleydowding7655]

@@XploringOz ok thanks really should state that in your videos I reckon gives a better indication on authenticity.

[@MickToohey]

do you know if they will be making one for a 79 cruiser

[@XploringOz]

They sure are, its in development now 👍

[@GR8Tmate]

Nathan, you might be interested to know that I saw something on a KZbin the other day where someone was discussing dusting issues with their LC300, so if it’s true, clearly Toyota are bigger b@nkers than what I first thought them to be. So overdue for a class action on this issue. As for this little Donaldson device being the sole method for deciding on whether a filter element is due for replacement concerns me a little bit as I don’t trust items that could potentially fail to be the only decider on when I maintain my filter. I guess it’s possible to remove the Toyota pipe on the clean side of the filter occasionally to check for dust ingress without disturbing the Donaldson filter element? Like others have said, if you book that in for a service anywhere you can’t speak to the mechanic directly (ie: a stealership) then you just know the mechanic is going to remove the filter to inspect it. 🤦‍♂️. Maybe Donaldson needs to provide a key lock to secure these filters to prevent that. Not knocking the unit, certainly looks like solid construction etc, pity Toyota couldn’t take note for the OME product. 😡

[@ausguy4385]

What's the email address to get the bigger gauge and the 45 bend to fit without hitting please? Cold call got what problem... 😅

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, yeah from what I understand they aren't quite available just yet. I see if I can followup and see what I can find (and contact details too 👍)

[@justyakking1321]

The indicator gauge doesn’t work. It’d be more up front to just state that. Also, I had to look up the price for the proprietary Donaldson filters because it wasn’t stated. They’re $240, which is pretty expensive.

[@XploringOz]

Definitely disagree with that entirely. The indicator gauge works exactly as designed, it's just not dynamic or adjustable. The gauge builds as restriction is added and will most certainly provide an indication as to when that filter requires replacement. Further, yes the filter is much more expensive, but 2 things to consider here. Firstly, a much longer service life. I'm up to 18000km's with replacement and have completed many gravel roads. Secondly, a few filters is much, much cheaper than a dusted engine or damaged turbos and I can attest to this personally.

[@mjhmech4903]

Replacement Donaldson elements may be expensive compared to OEM but given they actually do their job makes the $$ relatively insignificant compared to a dusted engine + the logistical trauma it presents (ask anyone that has had this happen on their big holiday!). Have not seen any issue with the filter restriction gauge ourselves providing they are installed correctly.

[@AdelJeffreyJeffreysAuto]

Looks like CAT backhoe filter😮

[@nigelsmith3904]

I don't know if your close with Donaldson or not but can u ask if making one for a 79 series. It would be good if they do cause they will sell out.

[@dustyfarmer]

Apparently they are.

[@XploringOz]

Hey mate, I can confirm they are. The 70 series is the current project on the desk. This will take some time just like with the XLC200 project, but we can be assured it is coming 👍

[@phs84]

Interesting, that head was causing a decent restriction, might have been the cause of your turbo failure, when the get restricted they will get air from anywhere including lip seals and gaskets ect

[@XploringOz]

It has crossed my mind, however I haven't yet found solid evidence of that just yet 🤔

[@paulvictor9368]

Based on your review, I just ordered a ItechWorld world battery to put in my engine bay. Do you use some sort of devise to measure your battery’s state of charge?

[@XploringOz]

Awesome mate, I reckon you'll love it. I haven't had any problems with my ones. In fact got my 12 month review on the 120X coming out in 2 weeks 👍

[@curiositykilledthecat1557]

Thanks for this video. The aftermarket air filter industry more or less runs on hype. If their filters were as slick as their marketing campaigns, the engine rebuilding industry would suffer. Thankfully there was no such hype in your presentation. There is an opening for reputable companies such as Donaldson in the 4WD aftermarket. The OEM air box is a disappointment.

[@dustyfarmer]

Donaldson should be giving them away for free given the cost of replacement filter elements.

[@XploringOz]

Haha, yeah but let's see how long these elements last. If they last 4/5 times a standard it will certainly add some value 👍

[@dustyfarmer]

@@XploringOz Element lifespan will be key to its value. I'm running what looks like a bigger Donaldson cyclonic filter on top of my Safari ARMAX on my VDJ79R. There was two sizes of cyclonic head for the 4" tube, did you have the largest for correct CFM flow for the 1VD-FTV engine?

[@holgermuller2987]

@@dustyfarmer please Write the Donaldson artikle numbers for your clear view pre filters. There are at least 2 different sizes for the clear view bowl type and one top sspin version the HD version. Cheers

[@ausguy4385]

​@XploringOz they say to replace yearly 🤔🫣 so is zero saving just more cost.... Did see this till after buying....

[@ausguy4385]

​@@dustyfarmer from his videos his is not the high flow one. The intake on my high flow 4" is way bigger...

[@ausguy4385]

Looking at the issue of the pressure/service indicator... the following video shows that even a forward facing ram head will likely trip it... The video is a different car and is pre the filter so it the snorkel restriction only... but at 20 it's same as mine it's almost tripping replacement when brand new... Be interesting to fit it pre the filter to see the filter restriction amount. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sILGaZdnfap4hpI

[@XploringOz]

I guess it depends on some many other factors and the vacuum pressures in the vehicle would be vastly different from the 200 series. With my new setup, I'm having no troubles at all with the indicator gauge. Hopefully this will the same with many other Safari uses too 🤞

[@ausguy4385]

@XploringOz can't decide between the armax and a 5" ss snorkel with 5" ram head.... Either way would be cool to test the pressure drop between tye filter since that blame the snorkels.

[@XploringOz]

@@ausguy4385 Hmm, would be interested to see the difference. I do like the ARMAX and it seems to have one of the most free flowing designs on the market. Again, would be interesting to see the exact level of restriction created by the filter and compared this to a factory setup.

[@adamnorton9701]

It's a shame this has being a issue since 2008 let's be honest.. it's a shame it took a world renowned company so long to come out with this.. but thank good it's here now..

[@XploringOz]

Agreed, very disappointing. Although we shouldn't have to spend the money on products like this, at least Donaldson have stepped up to the plate 👍

[@paulthompson1654]

Oh what a dusty feeling . What has Toyota come to ,instead of fixing this issue they pass it off as being normal . No quarry/mining equipment would tolerate this issue . Dump truck average 1 kilo of dust in filter . Yet none in the engine . So Toyota WHY ??

[@XploringOz]

Absolutely, that is the million dollar question and frankly quite disappointing 😔

[@brianwalker1933]

Hopefully Toyota will be embarrassed enough to fix their poorly designed air filtration system. Considering the price they charge for these vehicles!!

[@XploringOz]

You would hope so, but there are reports that the 300's are showing the same results 🤦‍♂️

[@brianwalker1933]

@@XploringOz I believe it. After watching that excellent video, l've been considering a Donaldson Air Filtration System for my Ford F150 4WD, (if available) as l drive about 30% on dirt roads and approximately 25%-30% off road and including numerous water crossings. Having a raised intake that a snorkel provides, is an obvious advantage.

[@stevegeebee2477]

Donaldon have been a world leading filter manufacturer for decades. Most commercial airlines will use Donaldson filters to clean air for cabin, avionics and cockpit. Their level of R & D expertise and product development is unheard of in 4WD industries.