Donated fire truck sits idle

[@smokeratsfirelines7101]

Mean time my department struggles with the need of trucks like that.

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Detroit is a pathetic piece-of-shit town. The people responsible should fkn die in a fire! (that would be a fitting fate)

[@justanotheraviator2357]

we refresh at 15 years

[@josephromeo3468]

@@mikeymcmikeface5599 ok ok don't go that far you should never wish death on someone

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

@@josephromeo3468 No, pedophiles should get a few bullets to the head.

[@SpartacusColo]

That truck likely does have numerous issues which require a load of cash to fix. That truck is probably from the early 80's and aerial trucks are pricey pieces to repair and maintain.

[@MechRider89]

If I was the guy that donated the truck I would absolutely demand it back to give to a department needing it more.

[@FernandoFlores-xi3mh]

Yes, i agree. Maybe a volunteer fire department would appreciated

[@wcresponder]

They didn't want it because it was the wrong color.

[@iratodd8867]

wcresponder bet

[@KILLKING110]

if it doesn't match the color scheme then it they will think its from another country which will cause problems because theres no universal code for color schemes for fire trucks

[@stephendirenzo4585]

Detroit actually used to use trucks that were around the same color

[@kaydenlord9903]

Michael Montenae or maybe, just maybe, he was kidding, and it flew right over your head, ever think of that?

[@Sucknutz_]

@Dark Helmet You realize it can cost an upwards of 50,000 plus dollars to paint fire trucks?

[@jaysmith1408]

“We do not have an urgent need for another ladder truck to be added to our fleet” then 1) why did you accept it? And 2) ya sure? And 3) sure ya do!

[@Skoda130]

Because it's not polite to refuse a donation?

[@adamj3579]

@@Skoda130 it’s also not polite to take it and never use it

[@shirleylee7492]

optics and political bs

[@Joel0123454321]

"Don't have an urgent need for it" yet a little girl died because your firefighters couldn't reach her. Seems to me that you need to open your eyes Mr. Spokesperson.

[@kristianvandehei8757]

@@jasenrock It isn't about flying over traffic. They said the firefighters didn't have working equipment. But you can't justify the expense of the repairs?

[@wvoutdoors6977]

Kristian Vandehei but what’s more important saving lives or sitting on your butt waiting for it to be fix

[@hamsteroftf2402]

@@kristianvandehei8757 What equipment wasent working? The axe? Fubar? Pike Pole? Ladder? The Pumps? It was really vauge, for all we know we should be blaming the DOT for not keeping the Fire Hydrants pipes in condition,

[@SpartacusColo]

It's Detroit. They have no money and corrupt leaders. Sadly, there is probably a great deal of truth behind the City's response: fire apparatus does require certain degrees of certifications, inspections, etc. Aerial ladders can loose their integrity and be, potentially, dangerous to use. The donated truck looks like it is early-80's era. Equipment needs to be tested and certified, etc. It's probably why they didn't have equipment available at the time: rigs were down for repairs, waiting on parts, waiting for money to buy parts, etc. Detroit does have stories of rigs breaking down when responding, catching fire while under operation, etc. Aerial trucks, especially, are quite expensive to buy and maintain.

[@Joel0123454321]

@@SpartacusColo Very true

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Before they can put it in service all of the ladders have to be tested, the pump tested and any hose on it tested. And refurbishment would require it to be brought up to current NFPA Standards, the cab would have to be enclosed and the emergency light package updated. All of that before portable equipment and radios are installed.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

That doesn't make any sense. Why couldn't they save the little girl then? Do you have working equipment or not?!?! Something very fishy with that explanation...

[@mcqueenx75]

yea we'll just use it for training. hyuk hyuk hyuk!

[@Iabdbfhkgndhsudn85846]

She died due to bullshit department policy. The department wouldn't allow the truck that was there to carry water, even though it was almost new. She didn't die due to equipment, she died due to morons and their bullshit policies.

[@Rochester_Sub_Productions]

The thing I think the outside world can’t see that the firefighters can see is that the truck that the man donated is old, it appears to be from the 1980’s. Those trucks are out of date, they may work but they can pose a threat to the departments firefighters and the public itself. It may work fine but the technology in the trucks these days has increased dramatically and that a truck of that age may work and operate fine, but it doesn’t have the technology today that it needs.

[@EricFortuneJr.]

Why did they even take the darn thing? Those rumors had to come from somewhere.

[@hamsteroftf2402]

prob the city counsel that wont allow money for decals and equipment for it,

[@maxwellssilverhammer]

Our department still drives a fleet of 1980's Engines and Rescues

[@xephael3485]

BrendanMaxwellMusic yeah, but you're unsafe renegades who are a danger to yourself and the public.

[@J-1410]

How, may I ask? If they are in good working order, do their jobs, and save lives, how are they a danger? Our rural fire department still has its 1956 IH in service, along with many ones from the 1980s and they haven't lost a life or killed anyone.

[@xephael3485]

J. A. G. You're just a bunch of hick firefighters that don't follow national firefighting regulations and someone will get killed someday when the world trade center collapses on your truck.

[@J-1410]

Our trucks, vehicles and people are up to date and pass all regulations and rules. Also why would a RURAL fire department be in NYC or a department from Detroit be there? Also what regulation states you cant have a older truck? I'm not finding anything on that.

[@xephael3485]

J. A. G. Hey, I was joking.. it's about a stupid NFPA regulations concerning open cabs. This truck has a small exposed open cab behind drivers.

[@baja5bnutcase305]

Id say its almost an insult to the donor.

[@jedeckert8912]

Oh well, such is life

[@mrod_3496]

How much do you bet that it's because it isn't the same color as their fleet

[@deniseking9444]

Mrod _349 I don't have too I know thats the reason

[@googlegoogle-ye4mx]

Lime green is better than Red

[@deniseking9444]

A Clone Trooper true

[@chrisburkes2567]

Hans red rigs are better the just have a cleaner look and if you’re looking down the road and see a big red truck you’ll know it’s a fire truck but if it’s a big yellow or big white truck it could be anything

[@Bmpaul02]

Do you know these things have to meet standards right? Some guys old ass fire truck that he donated doesn’t meet the modern safety standards that’s required.

[@georgesmith3172]

If they don't need the goddamn truck donate it to another Fire Department they got more God damn excuses

[@JakePlaysYT2914]

Ok so the truck that was donated would be labeled as a spare truck basically they got a truck in place of it and if something was to happen to the truck in place of it they will use the donated truck

[@grt021965]

So city wont pay to retrofit a quint unit.This is a valuable asset on any fire department. How bad can it be you don't have working first line equipment to handle the job. You are doing a disservice to all the brave men and woman on your fire department and the citizens too.

[@MrWolfSnack]

The city spokesman said "it would require significant repairs and upgrades to meet new demands" because of sitting in storage for years, and that the city didn't need a new ladder truck anyways. The truck was donated in pristine operating condition but has now begun falling apart because of sitting unmaintained for so long.

[@chetw3139]

@@MrWolfSnack So, they didn't use it. Let it sit there till it fell apart. Then when they looked into scrapping it and got pushback, said it was falling apart? I wonder why it was falling apart, could it be that you never used it in the first place? That instead of taking care of a donation you just let it sit and rust? As for environmental concerns of using an old fire truck that people bring up. If that's the case why do so many communities still use and even buy the old ones? Is it just that you have a local regulation about it for the city vehicles? As for people saying that it doesn't have modern equipment. That newer vehicles would run way better. First off, the city of detroit's newer vehicles break down all the time. This lead to the little girl's death. Based on the fact that many communities still use firetrucks like that one, it means it can be reliable. (If you don't let it sit unused till it's rusted out that is. Aka, if you actually take care of it!) Why not have an old reliable, espically when it comes to saving lives? Finally I'm gonna agree with most people here now knowing the information you've so kindly given me. If they were never planning on using the truck, why did they accept it in the first place. Ignoring the color and certification process, you had it sitting there for years. That takes up valuable space that the city was paying for. So if the truck doesn't get used then they just wasted a bunch of money on nothing. Seriously people. If you aren't gonna use it, don't accept it. If you do accept it, take responsibility for it and use it, don't let it sit there not only losing value but eating up taxpayer dollars. As for the certification process, if you knew that you wouldn't be willing to pay for that, why accept it in the first place? Just tell him no, that it would cost to much to begin with. Then he could go donate it to some other community in need of that truck. It doesn't matter if this was detroit, or some small rural town. If you don't think something would be useful to you, then don't accept it. My bet is that they planned to scrap it from the beginning. Thinking it would be a quick way to make a buck. Maybe they'd take that money and reinvest it into the department, who knows? However after that ceremony they probably realized that public backlash would be an issue. So they let it sit till they thought people had forgotten about it. Then they tried to make their move. If the goal was always just to turn the thing into cash, just refuse the vehicle. Give the reasons why you can't take it, and then state the amount of money you believe it would take to fix up the current rigs...etc. Then get donations from the guy and anyone else willing to donate.

[@cj_unhinged7742]

This is why politics do not belong in the fire service. Yes it is an older model truck but yes get it refurbished and get it in service. The firefighters of Detroit, I take my hat off to you. Great department & personnel terrible management. I have seen numerous videos of people and organizations helping the firefighters of Detroit but their own sits in their offices and act like owe well shit happens. Someone else can help us.

[@kill-shot1186]

Unfortunately Open cab fire trucks are outlawed in municipal Fire departments. Open cab trucks are no longer allowed on the streets. The insurance industry will only insure fire trucks with complete enclosed cabs. Just give it back.

[@ryankostick7359]

how can they use that for training when that apparatus is different than all the others in their Fleet I think what needs to be done this evening to be handed back over and given a different company that's going to use the truck the way it's supposed to be used that's what I think

[@marchovens]

what irritates me is that they dont use it, if they knew it was outdated and not going to be used then don't accept it. or ask the donator if they are allowed to sell it for the firedepartment. just doing nothing at all with it is such a waste.

[@JakePlaysYT2914]

Ok so in fire department term's which I won't use here because not everyone can understand it) Ok so it will be labeled as a spare truck meaning the current truck in place of it if something was to happen to the current Truck in place of it they would bring that truck out or different scenario here say they got a major and I'm talking major fire and all their truck's busy handling that they would either A: call for more truck's or B: use the truck to go to other calls in place of the truck's that are busy (sorry if I gave you a headache trying to explain it)

[@a-totally-random-person]

Bless that man's heart!

[@e952ct]

Interesting how there are at least two KZbin videos of Detroit Fire Trucks breaking down on the scene of a fire and requiring the call of another engine to replace it, yet they claim this one isn't good enough for them.

[@PanFroggo14]

A girl dies bc their equipment didn’t work, they were given a truck with equipment to help, they just don’t use it. Pathetic

[@isaac198428]

Only one question; Why did the city accept it if they weren’t even planning on ever using it? Now they claim they will try and use it for training only. Wasted everybody’s time with even the mayor taking pictures accepting the donation only to park it right after all the publicity? Just give it back to the man so he can donate it to a smaller town that might appreciate it and maybe try to fix it up. I bet there’s a small county out there with nothing and would love this old rig and find use for it.

[@vartilaknovehestum4947]

We use donated fire apparatus in our fleet. We even have apparatus from Germany, the Netherlands and China. I think we're the only fire brigade in the US with Mercedes-Benz fire apparatus.

[@WalrusWinking]

Must be and expensive nightmare to repair.

[@googlegoogle-ye4mx]

If you don't use it, give it to another struggling department.

[@spiffierthehunter7247]

man i hope they gave the guy his truck back ! training...

[@lilftruck]

The rig was in great shape when it left Western New York !

[@MattNOV1509]

Yeah and we here in Austria are waiting for a new truck since 2004!

[@troytuckwell3610]

It should be given to a city that is desperate for it .not training.

[@resqjason2]

Will the ladder even pass certification?

[@lukerevealfirephotography9045]

no and its an open cab in the back it needs 100,000 dollars in repairs and refurbishment

[@twizz420]

They said they don't have the money to repair it. It's not cheap to repair a firetruck, and it's not like Detroit is rolling in cash that they can just throw away. It's not that they just "don't feel like using it" like all these commenters are claiming

[@JD-8-1971]

As my fire departments engineer I don't think people fully appreciate the annual testing and specs all fire equipment must go though. Those ladders can eat up money quick to repair. After years of service their is a reason a half million dollar truck sells for $10,000 or less and sometimes your praying it brings that much. A local fire department we run everyone of their calls with them. They have trucks that have never been tested or when they had they failed. Tires so bad they were flat most of the time. Both trucks were "Homemade" in the 1970s. We had two 20 year old trucks (A 2001 Pierce engine 1000 gallon tank 1250 pump with CAFS. A 2000 GMC Top Kick with 2000 gallon tanker solid stainless steel tank and body with air actuated rear dump and side dumps it had cross lays and porta pond carrier with port a pond. Plus it came fully equipped with everything. One person could haul water like mad with it. A 750 gallon pump that always pumped 1100 GPM at tests. Both had full maintenance records and had passed all the pump tests and everything was in perfect brand new condition. We begged the other department to buy them for $1 each. They were both bought and put in a first out trucks by other depts.

[@rexbrowder]

if they won't repair the truck and place it in service our small town certainly would. we are a rural community 100 miles east of Memphis TN and have very few resources to purchase large ticket items such as an aerial truck.

[@Twin_Flyer]

That was 2014, its now 2020. I wonder if it ever moved...

[@SquishyZoran]

Same here.

[@cornbread83]

same.

[@firebuffandrewphotography]

Joe: **Gives Detroit Fire Truck** Detroit: We dont want that sh*t! Me: wow Detroit your so ungrateful.

[@Hyvexx]

Basically, they can't afford the maintenance costs that come with an active vehicle in duty

[@firebuffandrewphotography]

I know but wouldn’t it have made sense that if you can’t afford it just give it back to joe

[@Hyvexx]

@@firebuffandrewphotography i think that would be kind of late and rude after they made such a big deal out of the donation. Also he spent a lot of money acquiring the truck

[@firebuffandrewphotography]

True

[@jaymoney119966]

I’m a diesel mechanic, I understand 100 percent why they didn’t use it, that truck has sat for years before it was donated. No maintenance on that truck over that time means that the repair costs and preventative maintenance would have amounted to be way to much money to keep it going, compared to what it costs to keep what they have already in a working order, yes it’s a new truck but there’s so much to it and means parts cost more that’s why they have those older trucks because those parts are so cheap and it costs nothing compared to the donated truck, but in the end it Detroit and it’s is what it is

[@tokeituptyler5187]

Well said. People just don't understand what it really takes to keep one of those machines going properly..

[@lapislazuli1431]

Oh look, an informed comment. You don't see those too often these days.

[@brucenadeau2172]

how do you that itsat for so long andwhat if the guy had stored properly

[@TruckerErikProductions]

I'll fire department could really use it in a heart beat

[@hplovecraftscat8382]

That's an old model truck it doesn't have an enclosed cab, training is really all they'll get from it

[@shadowwolfman01]

Give the truck to highland park didnt they lose a ladder truck a couple years ago??

[@mariearmstrong8236]

If they found out they couldn't use it they should of given it back to the donor

[@waynerichards8606]

To fix the problem with DFD is get rid of the politician running it and get firefighters to run it,they should look for Federal grant money like FEMA and other grant money

[@jesuslightsmyway]

Lmao. They'll take it but dont dare ask for it back LOLOLOLOL

[@philipperiopel1911]

Meanwhile in museum's around the country, there are still Mack's, ALF and Seagrave ready to go back in action!Today's trucks are junk!

[@johnjablonski553]

Detroit needs all the help they can get,,, what an insult!

[@ghost307]

The real reason is that the Mayor doesn't get a kickback for a donation; only for buying a new truck.

[@EnidAgnusDei]

how can it be used for training? if it is older it will work in a different way and handle on the run in a different way too

[@roni1976]

Then why would they accept it knowing it would cost tons of money to get certified..

[@brigreen689]

A truck can't carry water? Smh. Poor family of the victim

[@scottcarson1973]

Some small town probably love to have that for there dept

[@kiyosenl.3889]

"We cant save some people cause we dont have a truck that can carry water" "Heres one that can" "Oh we cant use that cause we already have a ladder truck, its just not as capable" "Why not just swap it out" "..." "..." "We will just use it in training" "Um, ok i guess..."

[@eytrix]

another wonderful example of bureaucracy being absolutely useless.

[@stephenhunter70]

An urgent need; that's only going to happen WHEN there is a building on fire, which is precisly the time you DON'T want to have it out of service waiting to the maintenance required to put it into service in the first place.

[@solkaz4175]

They're probably trying to use the truck to pay debts.

[@Big-O43]

Its an older truck, probably just about at the end of its useful life for a busy city like Detroit. There is a reason why the previous Department got rid of it

[@smokeeater1769]

They are planning on pulling the truck out- Me: there we go For training- Me: YOU WHAT?

[@ou8my58]

i know this is a late comment, but did i just hear them say that the little girl lost her life because they didn't have the proper equipment or ladder truck to reach her trapped in an attic. Then a couple minutes later say it is sitting because to cost to put it into service is too much as they don't need a ladder truck. Wait didn't a little girl die because......oh hell what do you expect from Detroit, just more scams and corruption.

[@KnightRider1983]

Firstly, this truck is outdated. Thats why at best its useful as a training rig. The DFD would have to paint it, pay to have it inspected and certified and if needed, repaired. It also needs to be NFPA compliant. This all costs money that Detroit does not have. For their run volume, this truck would not meet their demands. It may work for a small town but a big city? No way. Not sure why the DFD accepted it when they should have just been upfront and honest and say they didnt need it or could not use it so the donor could have found another home for it. This reminds me of a local guy who wanted the county EMA to have a mobile command post. He purchased this old ambulance for EMA to spend tax dollars to convert to a command post and they told him they dont want it. Now the dude is stuck with an old ambulance.

[@xephael3485]

No Name outdated, like last year's car model...

[@BEARDELIVERS]

No surprise; I remember a few years back a lot of scout cars sitting and forgotten in a parking lot supposedly they where waiting for radios then where forgotten about after a change is personnel at shitty hall

[@FightTheMachine100]

you get the government you deserve....

[@Milo-mc6dd]

How much fuel do they burn letting it sit at idle for 2 years?

[@larsharris]

There is a lot of stuff the public never sees. I’m sure EVERY hydraulic hose must be replaced every 24 months. (Even if not used) every operator must be certified. It must pump x hundred gallons in set time... 1970 if it worked, it’s good. 2000 it must be inspected, certified, meet requirements. (Often ones that make zero sense for area). Local depot had to get new pumper truck. Old one was in perfect shape, never a issue, plenty of ability... but to qualify for lower insurance rating for city. It needed to pump 8% more then it’s max rating new. I NEVER heard a complaint they lacked pressure. (A few the tanker trucks fell behind filling draw tank). So they had to reduce pressure, cut hoses to conserve water remote locations. So why have a larger pump? A added tanker (at 10% cost) no new training... was more needed.

[@jaysmith1408]

Hoses not necessarily need to be replaced, especially with use due to absence of dry rot, and operators don’t need to be technically certified for it, just be familiar with it, so just six guys, the drivers of each shift at the station, will get familiar with it. The city could require that all drivers city wide would need to take a familiarity course on it, but that’s excessive. Our guys are able to operate effectively any apparatus on the scene, they’re different, but not THAT different.

[@sjohnson32612]

You donated it its no longer you're business

[@c.raymccurley772]

Send it to A small department that needs a ladder.

[@bryanturner2491]

It should have never been accepted if they weren't going to use it.

[@FireRescue80]

Sadly, this truck has been scrapped.

[@firebuffandrewphotography]

Well give the guy back his truck.

[@rhoonah5849]

Everyone should watch the documentary Burn about Detroit FD. You'll wonder why these brave men and women go to work every day and you'll understand why Detroit is a corrupt cesspool.

[@InvictusByz]

Do we know the truck is fit for service?

[@noname-1126]

We have a donated Ladder to but cant use it too because its to old and doesnt have the normal Stamdards.

[@owendahlke6666]

I don't think that this truck went to the highland Park fire department

[@alexholl5718]

adding more trucks to the fleet isnt a solution to manning, not to mention its an older rig that requires more maintenance, harder to find or custom parts, time and money to get up to working order. even the cab isnt safe for firefighters as all fire truck cabs are to be fully enclosed. they cant use it.

[@eshollen]

Alot of towns fire crews are super dramatic. If you think otherwise, youve had different experiences

[@loopi222]

Emissions TIER retro fit??

[@jaysmith1408]

That’s one of the best parts about it, no emissions to worry about fixing.

[@RafaRadityo7]

While I do understand why they don't use it because it's an old vehicle and can pose a potential safety hazard to those using it, they should at least display it like at a fire department's lawn or something like that so people can see it

[@Thekingcmk]

One word to tell you exactly why this is all a mess........Detroit.

[@keithadams812]

They're saving it for Halloween...

[@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst6492]

Donating a fire truck to a fire dept and them not using it is like. Donating Drug sniffing dogs to the DEA and they use them to just play fetch.

[@Unknown_Ooh]

City will lose any accreditation possibly even insurance policies they have if they put that into service outside of training. The truck is too old and like in any profession there's standards larger cities have to abide to. This truck would've saved more lives being donated to a rural volunteer company in need of an actual truck but cannot afford it.

[@joed9491]

It's Detroit, they don't have the money to paint it red just like their budget!

[@Coecoo]

> Has no equipment to save kid. > Gets equipment for free. > "We have no use of this equipment to justify minor repair before use." Dude, what.

[@RyanMiller3039]

Getzville, NY that's by me.

[@SirFloofy001]

Like i get the truck is old, i get its a ladder truck and you wanted a pumper or whatever, but WHY DID YOU ACCEPT IT

[@brandonheston8608]

I know a town that definitely could use it they are still using 20 year old trucks

[@MrWhite-pn7ui]

What Detroit needs is a huge donation of Republican votes.

[@johnconklin4452]

Budget can't get more money

[@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx]

You bastards, We still have Steam Engine Trucks up here!

[@washingtoncountyfirebuff]

This guy is smart for donating a ladder, But that thing is old! I mean there's no way that thing even runs or operates. With the amount of calls Detroit gets that truck would be replaced in a year or less.

[@MrSwinginjoe]

The city that I live in has a 1977 Vanpelt 85ft Rearmount Tower Ladder that served thirty years in front line service responding on every structure fire call in the city and surrounding communities. The Vanpelt has refurbished twice and now is an active spare ladder truck. That rig definitely runs!

[@weird1600]

and the only reason your ladder is in service is that it has never been taken out of service! Had it come out of service it would not be able to be put back in service without major modifications. The fact that this truck was a used truck in the first place it never should have been taken as a donation.

[@bouchee2007]

whats so hard to understand that if its not up to spec, they cant use it

[@jetli740]

then why they accept it, if it not up to spec. do you accept present from your friend knowing you will through in a corner and never use.

[@amirabrown2400]

they shouldn’t have accepted & let it sit for 2 years ...

[@XxBloodSteamxX]

Detroit FD knows that they look 100% better in the red trucks and pulling hoes is what being a fire fighter is all about. If you can't save people and structures in style why save anyone at all?

[@hamsteroftf2402]

*The Airport firefighters disliked this*

[@LibertyAndUnion]

This has to do with race.. period. Donated by the white man, and a slap to the face by the black African community organizers. allowing white folk, helping black folk, in their own communities.

[@Garth2011]

Detroit didn't really want the truck in this method. Had they really wanted a "pumper" truck bad enough, they would have gone through their usual suppliers which likely include kick backs etc. This donated truck, even if it needed some upgrades or maintenance, is still better than no truck at all...no major cash outlay, just a few repairs for a pumper or back up truck. You can't believe any other reason why a $300,000+ savings of City money would be unimportant. La La goes their story but only after it became a public issue. Those in charge want no help in their purchasing methods as it means less kick backs. This is what happens when politicians are given jobs that should be held by educated and experienced professionals in said field. Just like California, politicians are running the forest management, the power grid or CA ISO, CPUC and a host of other jobs in their power distribution companies (PG&E, Sempra, So CA Edison). Those with the education, experience and knowledge of these premium jobs should be there, not politicians who are "appointed" vs. earned the job. This is why California burns down every year, they have blackouts and have problems with their water reclamation such as Oroville Dam that failed due to political vs. engineering expertise running the show. It's amazing these idiots never see the inside of a penitentiary as they fail the public over and over year by year. It's very obvious that having a political job means unjust income and decisions as an everyday requirement.

[@alterboyjohn]

The truck was trash when they got it. The ladder failed a state inspection and the city had a independent inspection done and it failed that to. It’s to tall to fit in most fire station in the city. No fire fighter would get in it cause it was e death trap.

[@Garth2011]

@@alterboyjohn They never should have taken it in, in that case.

[@jamesdodd1823]

The truck is outdated and a money pit. Detroit does not have the money here to pay for the extensive and expensive. repairs..

[@e952ct]

then donate it, sell it off.

[@weird1600]

Look on line for a truck from the mid eighties that has been out of service and see how much the current owners will pay you to take it off their hands. This truck is worth little more then scrap value if that much

[@Nitrousox92]

Getzville ny firetruck! About a 10min drive away

[@RAVEN_SPRING_]

What a good man how are they being that dumb too not use the fire truck, even if it’s not going too perform as good as the others at least still have it ready and occupied so you never let a little girl burn too death on the top floor cause you don’t have a ladder truck ready, use your brain it’s the principle if it can move and lift its ladder use it there’s 0 harm too have professionally trained group of volunteer fire fighters ready too assist with it when something fails.

[@alterboyjohn]

It was completely unsafe for fire fighters to us

[@mitchellbliss3828]

Thing looks like 80s truck. Prolly needs hella work done too it

[@hamsteroftf2402]

I doubt, the donor would not haul a truck that would cost hella money to repair to Detroit, all it will do it gain dust cause the politions wont grant the FD money for whatever problem happend at the fire

[@Arizonafinalboss]

I would buy it for $17

[@lightning95sc]

Don't believe everything you hear on the news. What they don't tell you in this story is that the damn thing didn't run and needed a complete engine overhaul. That's a considerable sum of money.

[@hamsteroftf2402]

might as well just kick the bucket and buy a fresh one lol. I doubt they would find the right engine from 1980s

[@joker432]

Clearly everybody commenting isn't a firefighter, and that shows. This truck can't be put into service due to it being an open cab in the back. NFPA which regulates everything fire service states that's no open cabs should be allowed for service. Small town departments might get away with it, but no big city department would. You people are all so ignorant and are totally clueless but yet that doesn't stop you from all commenting.... Our world is pathetic

[@joker432]

JESSE VANPOOL wow dude please remain quiet, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. You seriously think a small town department can afford a conversion from an open cab to a closed cab? Seriously!?!?!?!?!? Oh yes this dept can't afford a new fire truck but they can afford $100,000+ for a cab conversion. People are so stupid is unbelievable.....

[@legohead6]

Your right, anything is possible.. but that doesn't mean it should be done or is smart to do. Ive never been a firefighter, but have been around commercial trucks a lot. And old trucks are nothing but unreliable money pits. Even if $100,000 was spent on a cab conversion, its still an old truck with old equipment and possibly a tired engine, who knows when any of these critical components will fail. Unreliable trucks are bad enough when its only an unhappy customer on the line. I cant imagine when someones life is potentially on the line.

[@erikvogel1]

It's not a 'people mover' ...it still has a cab for an officer and driver. It just needs to get there. Sitting two years is a crime, send it to the Nicaraguan Bomberos then where ANY equipment is badly needed and APPRECIATED.

[@xephael3485]

Take your NFPA, OSHA and other BS and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. If you have working equipment, use it.

[@Solocat1]

joker432 wow, you sound like a triggered little Alt-left bitch

[@Victormassano]

The city is " A Dog in a Manger" with the Fire Truck GREEDY , SELFISH they are. Give it to a Fire Company who would TRULY use it to save and help people. S M D H ........Excuses , Excuses , Excuses

[@metalfoot]

Detroit...

[@grimbles39]

Your first mistake: donating to Detroit.