Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Hard to find a ferrier
@mousenmick2 жыл бұрын
Last month I trimmed 3.5 of my donkeys, got the back feet of the naughtiest one to do tomorrow! Going to use the rope method, she’s a kicker, thanks for posting! I’ll be careful!
@mousenmick2 жыл бұрын
My farrier is ill and I decided to teach myself with KZbin, much respect to you, it is not easy!
@Cellottia3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, showing and explaining how you can both get what you want. Really useful, thanks.
@createwithbarbbl41253 жыл бұрын
Tough love. Thank you for the information and the care you give these animals. So good to see someone take their time and be kind always.
@sallyedmondson92753 жыл бұрын
Good job done with great patience 👍🏼
@margotdoohan244 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Love your understanding of where the animal is and why he's reacting, Plus love the emphasis on the release.
@1tonkajoe4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great narration. Best I've seen.
@GiselaSchlingmann5 ай бұрын
At 2:10 >>>>>It looks funny: Donkey is able to move both at the same time, the tail and the right hind leg!
@rayzeish4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic,you give great care and affection allhonours to you,from the U.Kingdom.
@catherinebiggstaff37472 жыл бұрын
I think the presence of the dog is making the donkey more nervous. Donkeys are very territorial and at several tmes in the video he lunges towards the dog to send it away.Interesting comment about gloves i have noticed several donkey and mule trainers use rhem.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
The dog belonged to the owner and was a regular companion to the donkey. Had the donkey felt threatened by the dog believe me he would not have passed up the opportunity to arrange the dog a trip to the vet the multiple times the dog stood in range of those hind feet . Had this Ben a hurry up get it done I may have put the dog up however this was a training opportunity and you cannot teach a equine to be tolerant of something by removing it. My end goal has never been to just get it done ideally I would like to be able to pick up a foot and trim it no matter the environment. Emergencies rarely happen in the perfect environments . And take my word for it if you ever have to pick up a foot to untangle a wad of barb wire from a animals legs you will appreciate the work put in on a day like this.
@denabaldwin39357 ай бұрын
That's exactly right!
@kidcompany2 жыл бұрын
Are you still trimming donkey hooves? If so, more donkey farrier videos! Good stuff.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
No unfortunately my body has had enough . I still do some creative and emergency stuff for former clients so maybe some time. But that's
@StoneMaplesFarms6 жыл бұрын
Awe...Too cute. I say that as we just bought two regular sized donkeys at a local sale!! I know the one is going to be ok but the Jenny is so going to be a project!! Lol thanks for the video as I will be using some of those techniques! Plus she is in foal (because why not breed something you can not lead or pick up its feet etc? Right?? Lol)
@chompondeez5 жыл бұрын
Totally worth it .. nothing cute r than a baby donkey
@jimmyyounger6182 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this, but I'm stuck with one of my horses. 🥴 My herd has been doing really well acquiring the feet of mustangs, wearing well during the seasons when the ground is frozen grit and during the dry months of summer. The 24 year old lead mare is slowing down though, so they don't travel as much and we didn't have that kind of winter that forms the surface grit to wear feet, so I'm returning to trimming after more than a decade. Four of the herd are great, even learning about a hoof stand since I'm that much older with a back that's gotten older than I am. But one of them - yikes. He did well with handling his legs and a rope twisted around the pastern learning to lead by any foot - no problem. He'll even give me a brief try picking up a foot, but he seems convinced that if he doesn't get it back right away he'll fall over and die. He's no draft, but I can't hold his foot up long enough to have any timing to give him a release. After perhaps 10 days of this during two weeks, he's pretty much taught himself he can get a release by jerking the rope forward, then bringing his foot back under him to give himself the release on his terms. I'll feel bad if I have to tie up feet to teach him he can stand on 3 legs without falling over and dying. And of all things, the one horse that needed to be trimmed a couple of weeks ago to make sure a couple of toe cracks don't turn into high wall splits is the one giving me a hard time. I kept thinking if I stay with it another day, and another day, and another, that we'd turn a corner, but I'm about burned out. He hasn't held any of this against me. We're still buddies and when I take a break from this he still follows me over to my resting spot and hangs out with me, so I don't feel like it's a trust issue but something in his primal wiring to never give up a foot(?) Have you run into this sort of issue? Have you had to tie up a foot to get over the threshold so to speak? As much as I'd rather not go this route, at least he'd learn something vs. being tranquilized and learning nothing. Any suggestion about something I've missed, or any other option to get us unstuck is welcome and appreciated.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
I rarely tie feet up and only because they were becoming violent and dangerous.it may be what you need to do if it has become a game for him. Sometimes it's hard to judge whether they're actually scared or it's just fun drag the human around. You might try taking rope around the foot over the withers under the neck and dealing with that I'll give you more leverage and you can hold it just a little longer every time and at least you can still release it. If you do tie make sure it's on soft ground there's always a chance they will throw themselves and get hurt or hurt you.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
Don't have any bad ones around right now but I'll try to shoot a short video tomorrow and show you what I'm talking about
@jimmyyounger6182 жыл бұрын
@@montiraystyron1546 Incredibly nice of you to offer this, but please don't go out of your way if it's not convenient. But an eventual video and more discussion about progressive steps would certainly be helpful to us who feel like they're running out of strategies. I've found a handful of comments in other videos where people, in one way or another, expressed frustration about a presented technique not working out for them. I've hunted through a number of videos looking for a missing piece of my particular puzzle. One was about trimming a difficult mule. I chuckled because I never saw anything particularly difficult beyond the need for a little more time and coaxing. Another video was, I think, a reactive warmblood and their process for that horse to hold a foot up was 45 days. (45 days?!) Something I did spot that we could do better is to have two of us, one with the lead and treats for a perfectly timed reward while the foot is in the air. My other half is away on a project, though. I took treats out of the picture when I realized he was being rewarded for the try *after* I could move to his head and his foot was already down. Perhaps he interpreted this bad timing to mean he gets rewarded when he takes his foot back? He's not at all violent and wouldn't be intentionally dangerous, well, except for the time he tried to double barrel kick my head off for rushing in with too much pressure asking for a turn in the round pen. 😆 He is the most sensitive and "watchy" of my horses. (I have a mare so bold and agreeable that I have to remind myself the gelding isn't a bad horse, she's just so exceptional that she makes him look bad.) I like the suggestion to get more leverage over the withers. Also, I had looked for a good size cotton rope like yours. I'm rural, so nothing like it locally. I recently doubled some fairly soft 5/8" synthetic in case a single strand loop was uncomfortable enough to be part of the issue, but I'm ordering some 2" padded hobbles to separate and use as a single foot lift to remove all doubt about some discomfort on the pastern worrying him. As I'm thinking about tying a foot up, it also occurs to me that I don't have to go about it the cowboy way I recall from my youth where it was just cranked all the way up, come what may. I have the time to go slow, and the leverage would give me the ability to just barely bring a foot up briefly, gradually adding more height and time in the air to stay below his threshold of panic. Great to discover your channel, and lots more to watch here. Subscribed! And I gotta admit, those donkeys are pretty darn cool. It might be fun to help one of those BLM burros out with training in a good home, and in exchange he/she could pack an old dude's gear out to the tree stand.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
sir thank you for your questions hope I can help .I coming off a little bit of a sick and just quit smoking so video quality is not that great got a new camera haven't got any editing programs up yet . I'm starting over from scratch so it is what it is ,hope it helps you out should be up here in about 15-20 minutes good luck man
@barbsaak31375 жыл бұрын
wish I could find a farrier like you near me for my mini donkey.
@montiraystyron15465 жыл бұрын
there is no reason you can't be that person . I had a customer who did her own until her 70s
@josephmedlow5363 жыл бұрын
Good video on difficult donky.
@ericajones31294 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@OldeJanner6 жыл бұрын
Lifting a donk hoof up beyond it's comfort zone will make them pretty kicky, they don't have the same range of movement as a horse.
@montiraystyron15466 жыл бұрын
we'll let that be your secret. lol
@anneyrose2 жыл бұрын
My donkey same standard , I use word UP she picks up front ok but giving my ferrier hard time and I'm kinda afraid to grab I can pet ok i tried rope sometimes shes good sometimes kicks.
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
How often do you pick up a hind foot
@anneyrose2 жыл бұрын
@@montiraystyron1546 about 3x a week just started tying her I usually don't but she's good at that
@montiraystyron15462 жыл бұрын
Do you quit when she kicks
@annszinnyey78672 жыл бұрын
If I have rope on her no not until she relaxes foot
@charlottebonnie5320 Жыл бұрын
Aat 5:00 >>>>>>The trimmer does the job which should be done by the owner.
@montiraystyron1546 Жыл бұрын
Considered not responding to this 😔. I've heard this from many people in the trade over the years. The way I see it there are at least 3 types of practitioners in this trade. The trimmer, who only trims and in most cases is barely qualified to do that. The Horse shoer, who mostly keeps sound horse's sound. And the Farrier, who has the skills to treat and correct the Madrid of problems associated with the equines lower anatomy. One major aspect of that is the ability to work under them in a way that keeps you and the animal from getting hurt and does not create a animal who is terrified to allow you to pick up a foot . Yes the owner should train them to stand for the Farrier . That is precisely why I posted this . One might be surprised how much easier there life is if they took the time to show their clients and there animals how to do it properly unless they themselves lack the skills to handle a difficult animal in which case they should definitely continue to call themselves a TRIMMER 🤣🤣
@denabaldwin39357 ай бұрын
When anyone finds a Farrier that can show them how to train their animals properly, to keep both them & the Farrier safe, they'd better keep him forever! You'll run thru a lot of Trimmers in your life & many Shoers. But finding a true Farrier that can teach both owners & Equines is like hitting the Lottery! Thank you sir!
@lorineidtinytoadplot7447 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 little bugger lol
@montiraystyron15467 жыл бұрын
ya ... ;)
@jayak37683 жыл бұрын
Not sure why u have a dog there. To further spook the donkey.
@montiraystyron15463 жыл бұрын
It's the owner's dog and I don't usually try to protect a animal from it's normal environment. I have yet to see a animal get use to anything that they don't experience. If there afraid of dog's, you need more dogs . At the end of the day ideally you should be able to pick up a foot while marching band goes by