ANDROID 17 IS HIM!! | Dragon Ball Super Episode 101-102 Reaction

[@Sweet_Venom0027]

There's an unspoken rule in Shonen anime/manga: do not interrupt someone while they're powering up or transforming, even if ya win it's like attacking while their guard is down; which is like admitting that you're weak and can't beat them at their best.

[@d4c1vtn98]

Goku broke that rule once

[@JR-em3mo]

The real reason is when someone is preparing to transform, it would be obvious to charge in and usually when you charge in Shonen you're being arrogant and get taught a lesson. Also with transformations fome new powers and abilities which could caught you off guard if you charge. And last, battle crazy characters like to fight the strong and sometimes you just can't for sure stop a transformation so its wasted energy. For the ss3, god and blue... Ss3 takes ki God takes God ki which is different and I believe takes from nature BLUE is super saiyan with God ki. God ki is better than mortal ki, less waste, more divine, more power. So when going God mode its usually a better use of ki to also go Blue since they like to push themselves and fueled by saiyan rage when God is divine and not as aggressive. Plus when first transforming I think blue gives God more control since the God ki is different and after first transforming his body acclimated to it and blue is the result. - more true to the saiyans

[@TurgoLBX2510]

@@d4c1vtn98wait, when was that? I’m not doubting you I just can’t remember which fight it was.

[@d4c1vtn98]

@@TurgoLBX2510 recoome

[@susnatamaiti1971]

@@TurgoLBX2510 Recoome or Racoome? Namek Saga...Dude was about to show something incredible...Goku just knocked him out with an elbow to the stomach.

[@TheEntertainmentKnight]

I love 17 he just gets the job done no waisting time sizing up his opponents power or any of that trash

[@purgeblue]

17 was so cold he broke the nr 1 rule in anime😂😂😂

[@doctor99267]

the tournament arena had a light bulb to illuminate the area, 17 stood on it and used it as a foothold to attack her. which is why champa asked if it was allowed since they werent sure if hes technically out of bounds.

[@WigglyJigs1]

Ooooh I didn’t understand either. I thought that when he made two ki blasts from his hands, he used one to stand on it and the other one to fire it. I get it now tho.

[@bimboajibowo8905]

​@@WigglyJigs1Bros when is he doing ninjago

[@rashaudegibbs9168]

Blue is all about ki and power control, that’s why it’s less draining than SSJ 3 , also which is why he’s able to combine it with kioken without dying

[@mr.patriotjol]

but the funny thing is SSB has a higher activation cost but once you are SSB it is fairly easy to maintain. Its easier to use SSG because it helps your speed versus power

[@SinqueH.W]

I swear universe 2 was just there to troll the viewers 😂

[@Lil-ProNk]

Universe 11 fighters are basically the Ginyu Force but for good😂

[@ThanishKS]

Yeah that's pretty accurate

[@0626polyboy]

Good for being annoying lol

[@nxrj5632]

Don’t disrespect the ginyu force like that

[@NimbusYumYum]

24:02 the power Puff girls 💀

[@sith_ofdragons7642]

3:38 Everyone has the same sentiment towards Super Saiyan 3’s stamina cost not making sense after all these years

[@itzNaddy]

He got it in the afterlife he went through some extreme training n stamina isn't a problem in the afterlife

[@sith_ofdragons7642]

@@itzNaddy I’m aware however it’s disappointing that he hasn’t mastered it yet

[@-_--ww2xn]

@@sith_ofdragons7642bruh why master that when he has god ki god forms and a angelic technique? You make no logical sense

[@downd.stairs8313]

My head cannon was that ssj3 was an incomplete transformation similar the ssj grade 3, what Trunks did, which is why it has a constant drain. It was a form he achieved without a body that would constantly loose stamina.

[@DogmaticNonsense]

@@-_--ww2xn "You make no logical sense..." While talking about Aliens gaining the power of Gods in a fictional universe. Conveniently ignoring Goku's character type

[@Seventh_Shade]

His god power uses a different type of energy which is why it doesn’t drain his stamina more

[@austint4139]

Why isn’t there a dragon ball playlist on your channel it would make watching this series a lot easier

[@b__w_4565]

This needs more comments and maybe a pin! 😅

[@WigglyJigs1]

Gohan: Alright guys, time to split up and fight on our own. Don: NO TIEN, NO! 💀💀💀💀💀

[@phoenixsui]

That scene with kale gives me goosbumps every time. The scream is crazy good.

[@spaghettithegamer1344]

Android 17 the kinda guy all of us wanna be

[@iyaredaniel3694]

Goku said it in dragon ball that the super saiyan blue stablises stamina when he first show the kioken in dbs

[@chrisarts__]

the reason the god forms use less energy than ssj3 is because they use an entirely different form of ki. god ki and normal ki are two different things; god ki is far more efficient, making those transformations more efficient as well. ssb's startup does drain a lot of energy, but other than that it's pretty efficient at staying at that state, which is why kaioken works with it. ssj3 was always a form that really drained your stamina and ki very quickly over time. it's supposed to be the strongest natural saiyan form without divine intervention, which makes it the least stable

[@ghostspider2056]

17 just broke the long transformation troupe, respect. I also love that he had to sit down through the whole thing.

[@Seventh_Shade]

5:24 DO NOT listen to that fool 💀💀

[@sikox209]

I think that someone needed to explain that better lmao cause I kinda see what he was going for with that analogy but its just wrong lol😂😂

[@scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833]

He’s not wrong, SSG as Kaioken, SSB as SSJ, SBKK and SBE as 2, and UI and UE as 3 because I don’t see them getting another transformation.

[@sikox209]

@@scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833 kaioken is a technique not a transformation. And the only correlation that exist between the transformations in super and those in Z is only surface level. SSG is just Base form Godki while SSB is basically the SSJ form( I’m not saying that they are the same in terms of power level obviously) of the GodKi transformations.

[@scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833]

@@sikox209 everyone knows kaioken is a technique, but it works the same way as a transformation. But instead of draining stamina it’s just physically draining. And the same way god was used early in super and basically never used again is the same way kaioken was used in Z

[@sikox209]

@@scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833 no it doesn’t? You can’t master kaioken the same you could master an SSJ transformation. By its very nature kaioken will always be extremely taxing on the body as opposed to a transformation. Remember the cell sage when gohan and goku mastered SSJ to the point where their bodies acclimated to elevated state and were able to sustain that transformation without any lose to their stamina. I don’t think that’s possible with kaioken. Though part of me thinks I’m misunderstanding the point you’re trying to make.

[@T.a.v.o.x]

The reason why Goku don’t use Super Saiyan god one, is because Goku initially hated super saiyan god because he could only reach that level of power with everyone else’s help than on his own. So Goku feels content becoming able to fight at a level not too far removed from super saiyen god all on his own.

[@orange3567]

Don hating on the dead side characters is hilarious 😂

[@arrjunramesh]

I mean tien ain't weak. He held his ground with 2nd form cell. And tien's techniques should never be taken for granted. Solar flare, after image, multiform.

[@shakid85]

You've finally made it!!!! The whole time you were questioning ssj3 being draining I was becoming proud of you for officially being a weeb now🎉🎉😂😂😂

[@LexoG33]

In the Cell saga they trained to get used to the STRAIN that the Super Saiyan form puts on their body, but once you get to Super Saiyan 3 they just physically can't sustain that level of energy output for long before they would just pass out or die. During their training in DB Super they explained that to master Super Saiyan Blue they need to not let energy escape from their body when they power up. That's why the other characters can't sense Goku and Vegeta's energy when they go Blue, while Super Saiyan 3 energy can be felt across the Universe, as we saw Gohan sense him while training on the Supreme Kai's planet in the Buu saga.

[@rez2tootrill]

What #17 had did was use his own energy to make a big ball of energy so he can stand on it since they cant use flight in the Tournament . So he put it in mid air and left it there so he could stand on it and blast her when she was already going toward him in mid air and since she couldnt use flight, she got sent back with #17's other blast

[@grydon6422]

No that’s not it, I’ll quote another commenter who said it perfectly: ”the tournament arena had a light bulb to illuminate the area, 17 stood on it and used it as a foothold to attack her. which is why champa asked if it was allowed since they werent sure if hes technically out of bounds.”

[@KAMI3RD]

“Grrrrrrrrrrr” 💀

[@KarmaAnims]

2:27 Super Saiyan 3 was created by Goku when he was dead, dead people have unlimited stamina, so when Goku used super saiyan 3 as a mortal, it drained his Ki way too much, he basically maxed out all of the skill points without considering the downsides, just imagine super saiyan 3 as Future Trunks' buff form, drawbacks are not worth the powerup

[@warpedwhimsical]

Whoever said that about rage is mixing up techniques. Goku can’t create spirit bombs while transformed because of this. The reason Goku can only use kaioken in base and SSB is because it requires exceptional ki control to not damage the body, SSB is Goku’s best form for ki control. This is also the reason why God and Blue are less stamina costly than 3. It’s because 3 is all about burning through stamina fast for insane power, SSGod forms achieve greater power through mental calmness and ki control

[@shreyaspumpkinsgaming9596]

Who is going to tell him that what he wants is there 😂

[@downd.stairs8313]

21:38 clearly Goku has more faith in himself and his crew than you do lol

[@suse_JZ]

Usually he uses kaioken as a last resort, but it gives him a big boost that if he uses it with other form his body won't be able to handle it. That's he said when he fought with Hit that he was working with it to make it work.

[@purgeblue]

I’ve always admired Super Saiyan 4 not just for it being another step beyond 3. But from how you achieve it. Cause in GT, the way Goku and Vegeta managed to unlock super saiyan 4, was from becoming Super Saiyan Great Apes. Great apes already being a wild transformation, amplified by being super saiyan too. And in controlling that much power, would shrink you down again with the super saiyan 4 transformation in your arsenal

[@ssjgotenks2009]

yeah and it dotn drian you like ssj3

[@quisimixtv]

The little imp dude is from a manga by Toriyama called Sand Land. The anime is out too! I'm so happy 😁

[@killercat241]

Gotta get ready for 105, one of my personal favorites

[@1cyy365]

22:34 "by the way bululul" what?😂

[@JoshBob-z8w]

This man callin every1 a baddie😂😭

[@aethercaz83]

17 makes a taboo move, attacking while somebody transform's

[@parrotlord7393]

The thing about z broly is that he doesn’t hate goku for existing he hates him because he was crying during a traumatic moment in his life which made it worst and scarred him

[@B3Nara117]

Honestly I understand 17. We ain’t wasting time to do signature power ups. But I would want them at full power.

[@pare20]

Overthinking in the beginning without remembering real world limitations of animation. All the right questions though. Still always 🔥reactions.

[@Gronow180]

I think with the kaioken technique because it multiplies the energy it would be redundant to do it in God (red) when blue is more powerful. I think he could do it in god but it's pointless. And hasn't it been said in Ssj blue, they have better control and manipulation over the energy whereas in the over forms their energy is much more chaotic, probably due to being fueled by rage. And then using kaioken with the other forms...yea they would be more powerful but it would also be a lot more chaotic and they wouldn't be able to control their energy. (I'm not saying im right with this but it's something I think ive heard explained from watching DBZ and super :D)

[@SneakerHeadSparkyy]

Super saiyan blue is basically super saiyan god going super saiyan.

[@anime-kun9231]

21:40 your talking about the same guy who gave cell a senzu bean to fight Gohan when the world was at stake 😂😂

[@sikox209]

@25:06 “Who shot?” The GOAT #17!

[@lajaness4026]

Super saying isn't a perfect form... that's why vegetav never tried to go 3

[@Mist]

My thoughts on why ssj3 takes soo much power is because its the highest (cannon) super saiyan form and even after all these years Goku still can't stabilise its power, its peak mortal power for the saiyans to reach so its obviously gonna be the most power draining one. Realistically its the most powerful super saiyan form any saiyan can reach. The god forms on the other hand are a whole different type of power, its deity energy

[@DaddyFaIIen]

That guy on patreon fed you misinformation; Kaio-ken can't be used on forms like Super Saiyan 1-3 because they have irregular ki control, Super Saiyan Blue has perfect ki control and that's why he's able to stack kaio-ken onto it. Super Saiyan God also has good ki control but there's no point or benefit to him using kaio-ken on it, because he'll just end up hurting himself for far less strength and power rather than in Blue.

[@KarmaAnims]

1:02 What's the point in him using Kaio-Ken, destroying his body to multiply his power in an inferior form? Wouldn't it make more sense for him to use Kaio-Ken at full power so he doesn't destroy his body wasting time, which would inevitably make him lose the fight

[@martinfilipovic4427]

I hope you catch this comment. I'll try to explain without spolers so if some things dont make sense, keep in mind it wont be long before they make sense. Ssj 1,2 and 3 are physical rage induced forms, and Goku ssj2 is not the same as lets say Gohan ssj2. God ki is not comparable to them in a direct power comparison. God ki sets the SSG as base and scales of of that. This is a minor spoiler but notice how Goku used SSGSS in short bursts and rarely so far? SSG- speed, tecnique for longer, scaling and technical fights with less emotions. SSGSS- raw power god ki augmented with sayans rage. So he goes blue alot... cause he's angry every time he does it. Spoiler alert; you'll get SSG. Decent amount of it, and itll make sense when you take the opponent into account as well. Yeah they couldve used SSG more I agree, but I get why they didint. Broly cant go blue... yet shits on blue as ssj2.

[@ztrigger5304]

All the God of destruction did actually fight at least in the manga before the tournament of power, i wish the anime would have adapted it

[@lilturtleandshell3690]

The real reason why he doesn't use ki o Ken with forms is because ki o Ken is already extremely straining to his body so applying a transformation on top of ki o Ken is crazy strain that's why he doesn't use ki-o-ken with forms as much, he did train to apply it to blue but that's the only time I think we ever see him use it and it's anime cannon it's not Manga cannon so yeah don't think about it too much, also the Manga uses ssGod a bit more than the anime, he also uses ssj3 way more during normal battles in the Manga than the anime so yeah basically the anime changed allot from the original material toriyama was making but still a solid interpretation over all faithful to the main events and actual important events, basically Manga is the best way of getting actual story development and anime is all about the hype and cool and flash factor. Hope you get to read this, and I hope it was helpful if you did 👍

[@kaienglish271]

SSJ3 is a form for the afterlife. Goku created 3 while dead so the drain never affected him while dead but compared to being alive SSJ3 just drains a extreme amount of energy

[@13wayz70]

i dont blame you at all for being confused about the details in dragon ball because they literally so many GUIDE books just discussing minor details

[@dariothedemon7390]

Basically Goku Can Use Super Sayian Blue To equally match any opponent that he is stronger then because it’s perfect ki control so that’s why him and 17 looked equal because he was holding back a lot

[@byronblaze136]

17 was also holding back🙃

[@ortanicallity]

Don, ssj3 drains more because it's a heavy expense of Goku's mortal, Saiyan power. God is known for not really draining stamina at all pretty much anytime it's used. Blue drains because it's the combination of super Saiyan and god, god acting like a base form to stack super Saiyan on top of essentially (which also can explain why God isnt draining). But because you're stacking one form on another, blue is all about focusing energy and ki control, which is why kaioken works with blue, not because of rage like the other guy said

[@tectonio6175]

LMAO bro Goku is a Saiyan through and through. he only lives to fight strong people and knocking Kale and Caulifla out at their weakest is against their honor as Saiyans. he doesn’t try to save the world, he only fights the strongest people and saves the world as a result of his win

[@vanguarddude3833]

As to why ss3 drains more energy is cause it's a form from ki energy while God forms are divinity energy its why mortals can't sense divine energy cause it's a different form of energy

[@Stormbreak200]

28:38 when you said f*** off, i say agreed plus they're annoying

[@afropunkx]

I think its clever to leave half allies like caulifla and Kale in the tournament to potentially take out or weaken other competitors.

[@geryeh5298]

To be honest, i treat any explanation in the comments as headcanon, i don't think it was stated that SSJ 3 still had the stamina issue after the Buu Saga, but it was never said that he overcame it either, for all we know he could use it without problems but opts for the newer transformations to master them, as for the SSJ Blue, I just think the anime uses it more often because it is flashier. These are my beliefs and I have no proof but no doubts either.

[@deegee1317]

She Turned into a Teletubby

[@A_Random_Gamer_.]

goku did actually use kaioken with super saiyan one ,i just dont remember when

[@Snooperiso]

Kaioken isn't a rage technique, He uses it in blue as it is a huge burden on his body and there would be no use in using it in anything but blue

[@isabellejoestar2455]

You can stack Kaioken with whatever you want, the problem is that... why would you? You can stack Kaioken with Super Saiyan, but why would you do that when there's super saiyan 2. Why would you do that with God, when you have Blue. You have to remember Kaioken is a technique that puts a physical strain on the body, not a transformation. It's why Goku only pulls Kaioken in Blue, because if he needs more power than his strongest form, then he needs to go through the risk to get higher. Super Saiyan 3 drains a lot because it's just not an optimal form. Same way Trunks and Caulifla tried using the bulky super saiyan, just because it's stronger does not mean it's a direct upgrade.

[@rocksteadyD]

And you expecting him to do things, for dbz shows just let it flow when it’s comes to thinking

[@danielhavoc889]

Super Saiyan 3 drains so much stamina because its still just a normal super saiyan thats essentially being stretched to its extreme. It's the limit of normal super saiyan forms, hence why the improvements on it are 4, which uses the great ape on top of super saiyan, and God, which uses god ki. Its a form that Goku could only even develop when dead, since the drain on his body didn't matter. The difference between it and God forms is that God forms use an entirely different type of ki, god ki, so the barrier isn't having more ki than Super Saiyan 3, its just HAVING god ki. Super Saiyan blue is just going normal Super Saiyan while using god ki.

[@blomgaming6480]

Remember the excuse for super saiyan 3 is that Toriyama didnt want to draw the hair moving around with detail in many pages, so he basically justified it, he didnt like the form anyway. Remember, everything in dragon ball is convenient for the artists.

[@ssjgotenks2009]

he never said he dont like the form lme bt cotn eh dont like cell do to hateing draieng spots

[@DatOcClipMan]

Super Saiyan 3 is a form that was achieved in other world. It can only be fully utilized there. On earth or mortal realms, it drains him immensely. God energy is different. Keep watching and it’ll be explained

[@godsparadox4422]

Like this so don can know, goku can not use kaioken with SSJ because he doesn't have enough ki control, whis goes out of his way to train their ki control in the dimension in his staff, they werent allowed to move unless they had perfect control which means they didnt before and they were wildin out, also super sayian 3 drains stamina so fast because its basically a better version of of the buff form just a cheat code for a multiplier, god ki and regular ki are different so its basically like going super sayian again where he was training to not destroy things so he was so strong that its not comparable too ssj3 in power, and its not a cheap multiplier because thats the base form of god ki not in base

[@fluffernutter6633]

Think of Super Saiyan and God as two different cars that Goku can drive. Super Saiyan is a V4 engine family car and when pushed to it's absolute limit (super saiyan 3) it can go up to 100mph. Doing so places a massive amount of stress on the engine and burns through gas so it can only do this for a very short time. On the other hand God is a V12 engine supercar and can cruise at 150mph all day long while barely sipping gas. Going Blue is just speeding up or slowing down to whatever speed you want to be at and Kaio-Ken is using your nitrous for a speed boost. If you have $300 for the tournament and you have to pay $10 to drive the Super Saiyan car plus an additional $10 for Super Saiyan 2 and another $10 for Super Saiyan 3, but the the God car costs $20 plus an additional $5 for Blue...it just makes sense to go Blue in most circumstances. I hope that makes sense 😅

[@Oroxom3]

Super Saiyan 3 only worked in the past because goku WAS DEAD. He trained and obtained that form while he was DEAD. Its a form that its idea when you are dead. Basically its pure WORKS IN THE IDEAL ENVIROMENT OR SITUATION

[@ezerbenkhalifa8260]

Bro u underestimating Tien for no reason😂 he’s actually strong

[@Tevinsatahoo]

Ik the creator did this on purpose to annoy us the 3 girls 😂😂😂

[@Whorpse]

Think about ssj3 this way. You have a set amount of stamina but ssj3 burns through it the quickest because the form isnt meant for drawn out fights. Its kinda like the bulky form trunks used against cell, it maximizes power but sacrifices stamina. His other forms are more balanced. Ssj3 is just kinda obsolete at this point. He can fight more efficiently in every other form.

[@EscoH3]

Correct me if im wrong chat, but isnt the reason they dont want to use SSJ3 is because its to expensive to animate? I believe that was said somewhere by the animators but i could be wrong.

[@RageinriotTJ]

OG DBZ fan and i can give my best attempt at giving a simple answer. think of super sayian like a gaming computer, you can run it normally (music movies what have you) That is basically base/SSJ1, then you can put your computer in high performance mode (for gaming games that need some more umph) that is SSJ2, then if you overclock your computer that is SSJ3. it puts a strain on the system. so tho it is stupid powerful it drains gokus a lot. now this is stated per-say but it is noted that when goku goes into his god forms its a different form of energy, when goku or vegeta go blue their energy is no long sensed by anyone who basically isnt divine. thats why alot of the characters in the beginning of the series state they can feel goku's evergy anymore after he goes SSG or Blue. basically that god energy that they tap into is separate from their mortal energy. (any one commenting to argue slash disagree i am simply giving a in world reason as to why they dont really use ssj3)

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Broly is canon to the Dragon Ball Super manga, and the 2018 Dragon Ball Super: Broly movie gives him a new origin that fits with Goku's. The movie is canon because it was written by series creator Akira Toriyama, and the movie also follows the continuity of the Dragon Ball Super anime. The latest chapter of Dragon Ball Super also adapts some elements of the movie's backstory, making it canon to the manga for the first time. Even Dragon Ball Super: Broly is canon because it was written by series creator Akira Toriyama, whereas the original Dragon Ball Z: Broly trilogy wasn't. Additionally, DBS: Broly follows the continuity of the Dragon Ball Super anime as a direct sequel.

[@ic3man213]

Yea ssb is the better form between ssg & ssb but the fact is blue sells more toys so they use it more it really that simple

[@clasher138]

17 was right. There was no need to waste time on universe 2 when there were already people like Toppo and Jiren to contend with. Don't let them become a nuisance that will stick around longer than they should

[@nxkros]

We not gonna talk about how you said 18 is cold when that is 17 bro wtf but good vids man lol

[@pottedplanttv9729]

If you think about when Super takes place; Goku hasn't really had time to train with 3 as much as 1 and 2 (on screen). Super takes place before the end of the Z anime (Goku hasn't met Uub, Trunks and Goten being kids still etc.), so he hasnt had the 10 year time skip to train and get used to it Before he gets a real chance to master it, he suddenly gets access to God and Blue, so it makes sense for those to be the forms he uses. Also, Blue is SUPPOSED to be about Ki Control, which is why he stacks Kaioken in that form, as its the only form that would reliably allow him to do so. I'm sure you've heard this as well, but manga Goku and Anime Goku are VASTLY different. God is used a LOT more in the manga than just him spamming blue like in the anime.

[@ssjgotenks2009]

waht goku has had time dude gfoku fight beeur age 778 kdi buu was 774 so goku had 4 years to trian ssj3

[@pottedplanttv9729]

@@ssjgotenks2009 Like I said, he didnt have as MUCH time compared to when he unlocked 1 and 2. Considering he unlocks Ssj1 at end of Namek and doesn't even get 2 until between the time skip of the end of Cell Saga and beginning of Buu Saga, we have to consider how long Gokus had wirh each form. He'd have had to unlock 2 first while dead, then while in Other World, unlock 3. He has the couple of years until Beerus, gets mollywhopped after going 3, showing hes at least trained with it more and then focuses on mastering God and eventually Blue. He wouldnt have focused on Mastering 3 as much time as we'd think he would have is all I was saying

[@TurgoLBX2510]

Yeah no. 17 is the MVP of this saga… but Kale controlling her Super Saiyan like that… yeah Z Broly would be laughing hysterically.

[@reesygames]

So don goku explained it to us during z, that ssj3 burns stamina espically if u don't master it and ssjb is all about power and ki control that's how he was able to use kaioken with blue. Whis told goku and vegeta when they was training that they let too much of their ki leak out that's why the opponents they face could read their moves. With ssjg red, its just base form with god ki

[@ShakibDiriye]

He still uses rage for his blue

[@mezmerized4lifejay654]

He goes blue because it’s stronger than SSJ Red. Blue is SSJ God Red with SSJ stacked on top of it so it’s SSJ God Blue. You might see both 🤷🏽 You can stack Kaioken on any form besides 1 (it’s a spoiler though). Also, Whis taught them to train & raise their power in their base forms, very important. I’m not sure if you knew that so just thought I’d drop it.

[@Antonio-0187]

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[@velvetthunder74]

you can't stack kaioken on any form except for blue... that's the whole point. i could see maybe he could do it with SSJ God but there'd be no point cuz he can go blue so it'd be like using Kaioken instead of super saiyan after he learned super saiyan in Z.

[@macthedude9457]

The super saiyan forms 1 and 2 are unlocked by rage so he cant use kaioken, ssj3 already drains so much stamina putting kaioken on top of it would wipe him out in the blink of an eye. he can’t use Super Saiyan God because he doesn’t have enough ki control i think. Super Saiyan God SS or SS Blue gives Goku perfect ki control so i think that’s why

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

8 left...

[@downd.stairs8313]

24:19 so Magical Girls make you think of power rangers but the Pride Troopers and Ginyu Force, which are intentionally based on Power Rangers/Super Sentia, don't.

[@rocksteadyD]

It’s not that the forms you see him us are the ones he’s most comfortable with , it’s not that he can’t he can. it just the one he don’t use must are the ones that drains his stamina the most. It’s best if you just do research on sayains so you can get a better understanding of him

[@shanecoleman1597]

28 more episodes to go man

[@ManyJaz]

beerus is everyone who watched this at that scene, we all hate Ribrianne and her team, it was so annoying the entire time

[@notedswordsman4475]

Goku went kaioken over super Saiyan in the movie continuity. I know he hasn't done it in canon but it's safe to assume that a Goku, a guy that fucking died twice and saved the universe, can do kaioken over any form.

[@ssjgotenks2009]

will goku was dea dso yeah he could use kaioken on top of ssj with out deiing just liek ssj3 dotn drian him will dead mroe then like if goku was dead when eh fight cell and then used kaioken on top of ssj with the point blank ka m eh me ha me ha he chould have won

[@notedswordsman4475]

@@ssjgotenks2009 good point I forgot about him being dead and having more stamina. I'm saying current, dbs Goku probably could stack kaioken with ssj because his body is stronger now. Like Vegeta doing the final explosion against Buu and dying then doing against top in DBS and lived through it.

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

Because of Super, GT is now canon. They are just not the same "universe" characters.

[@yojan9982]

Bro thirsty😭

[@johan8421]

Goku used kaioken Ssj in the otherworld tournament in dbz against pikon. So it happend before

[@onyx6774]

Goku could use kaioken with God but in the long run is not worth it, the payoff is not really that big...well...compared to Blue at least. For an example let say the God is a 10x multiplier to his power (We know it isnt, the exact multiplier is astronomically bigger, this is just for simplicity sake) 10 x 20 = 200x (20 is basically kaioken times 20 that goku uses lol) and Blue is basically SSG X 50. so 10 x 50 = 500 x 20 = 10.000. as you can see using it on blue is way more worth it. SSJ 3 uses alot of energy and since he has God and Blue make it so is not really worth using it (especially in a situation like T.O.P) Goku only uses this form to show off LMAO. The reason Goku cant simply use Keioken with the ssj forms is because it based around rage and the ssj energy is kind of caotic in a way. Kaioken he needs alot of concentration and focus to use it which is very similar to blue. I Dont remember the explanation very well since it was long time since ive seen DBS but i thing it is something like that. (He explained this against hit, at least in the sub version he did).

[@BlondeBoyJacob]

I personally hate the way ssj 3 looks I’m glad it didn’t get much screen time

[@ghostlybroccoli02]

You will see all goku’s transformation in this tournament 😌

[@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris]

SS3 also slows him down. Too bulky for him.

[@mgchoppa]

The super Saiyan god forms doesn’t drain much energy cause it’s divine energy instead of rage energy

[@________________________9]

he is gonna find out why he is called mvp 17 xd.

[@ShakibDiriye]

super saiyan 3 form as a whole is just a form that drains too much, its not like 1 and 2