Are Aftermarket Sway Bars Worth It?

[@Donut]

Hey everybody!! Let me know what you want to see on future episodes of Money Pit!!

[@An-qt4ob]

Bodykit Wrap seats turbo

[@god0516]

turbo

[@itsmichaelboy]

miata *SUPERCHARGER* install 🔥🔥🔥

[@bunkerharris4530]

Areo

[@ljsmooth4841]

Brakes

[@alexvaquero6884]

I’m enjoying Money Pit so much man. Zach just make’s it easier to understand as well and I love it! Definitely an inspiring dude :)

[@MrKinkysloth]

eli bloom he ain’t dissing donut... all the hosts have different styles; and zachs this guys favorite. Low key miss Bart, science garage was my favorite

[@etienneoligny5106]

@@MrKinkysloth miss science garage either. I wonder what happened.

[@mariejohanna2166]

Yes

[@f0rmr57]

Fucking love this guy

[@bjarnefeierabend929]

yeah he defn does his Job quite good. keep goin man

[@aidanvillanueva1881]

They gotta start doing money pit twice a week I can’t wait that long

[@gdmya]

Aidan Villanueva same

[@Kami_N7]

G initial d reference?

[@adelaide7822]

@@Kami_N7 I hope so...

[@saikrishnapremn1282]

Brother, me too

[@mahatirmohammed4909]

same here

[@Kj16V]

8:38 I love how you guys show the actual truths of modifying; smacking body parts, swearing, throwing tools about. *These* are the truths of modifying!

[@metalbob3335]

If life is without it's slings and arrows I wish not to live in that world good commentor.

[@geistfly723]

Meme Man I think knowing what your getting yourself into and the pain of others haha, is much better then thinking your not going to get hurt. Basically to me that’s not showing everything that can and won’t go wrong. Need both sides.

[@krismichalsky]

If you weren't allowed to throw tools, cuss and bang the shit out of things, then the job would just not get done properly. Every good mechanic knows this.....

[@profitprophet4547]

Only people that have been there before knows how horribly it really hurts, otherwise it looks like your average knee hit.

[@bulletclub4life]

that doesnt happen to me because Im a backyard professional...cuz I have snapon tools...lol

[@CalebDavilazeldacatbugyui]

Zach: Wants to install practical performance mods on the Miata Rest of Donut: Ha ha, make car shoot flames

[@EkowMensahMotorsports]

Yeah last week was a garbage fire.....horrible episode.

[@stevemcdowell123]

Looked so dumb lol, not gonna watch that one

[@belfedhalmohamed9152]

@@EkowMensahMotorsports a filler episode

[@EkowMensahMotorsports]

@@belfedhalmohamed9152 still haven't done brakes yet,

[@erito23gamingpower99]

Is just a Miata, don't need big brakes 😂

[@BornofFire117]

I love how Zach records the frustration and pain associated with working on a vehicle. It’s a realistic educational video. For that same reason, you have earned a like and serious respect from a fellow DIY mechanic.

[@richardsenkBeachwalker]

if I'm not bleeding, I'm not working on a car.

[@Fifteenminuteadventures]

I lose tools down in my fenders, bust knuckles, make up new cuss words, and get a little too much drink or smoke and turn every little job into a weekend long party in my garage. None of this do I regret because...cars

[@WSmith-ne5ks]

Watching him struggle with "simple stuff" makes me feel better because i do the same thing with anything

[@Fortheloveofjdm]

Experience is everything. People get discouraged in the learning process but forget the life long lesson you get. Plus its easier to do next time. Its why i go to the parts yard. Dont think u can replace a fuel pump? Try it at the yard, see whats hard whats easy to break, that sort of stuff.

[@kevinmontoya7318]

Me in my mind: why the fuck is my neighbor watching me change my oil Him: *thumbs up* Me: THERE HE GOES AGAIN POPPING OFF LIKE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD

[@Ovni121]

This is my favorite video series on Donut! I wasn't considering a project car before and now this seems like a great idea. I like that he's honest also when he's struggling so people like me doesn't think it will be a pain free process. But also he's very good a explaining by showing so a newbie like me can jump in.

[@EkowMensahMotorsports]

Yes this is important....the 8 bolts on swaybars seem like a 'quick project' but it can take a bit if you do it right.

[@72hermit]

@@EkowMensahMotorsports I needed to hear this today. Thank you.

[@P.r.i.m.o]

This entire video series is just Zach's master plan to get his dream miata lmao

[@myMotoring]

And get donut pay for it

[@erito23gamingpower99]

Better than spend more than 30k on the Hi 350z of Hi Low

[@JustDoMeCrew]

@@myMotoring They'll just write it off as a business expense so they'll actually be paying way less for the parts too

[@sebasttps7096]

"so you got a new show for me" "Yes sir I do. So it's gonna be me modding my Miata. that's about it" "Ok you're in"

[@levidaniels585]

I would have never guessed that lmao 😂

[@Kaohteeko]

I love how real this is. Instead of portraying a perfect installation, it’s representative of actually Joe working on their car.

[@jorgenvonstrangle000]

yeah that me

[@triliner254]

@@jorgenvonstrangle000 lmao

[@supplant9124]

who's joe

[@vic_cresss]

@@supplant9124joe mama

[@Nelson4207]

​@@supplant9124hes saying the average joe, normal person with low skills

[@kalpaniwickramage5395]

Donut media really makes their fans happy by replying to fan comments and liking fan comments.

[@sampiafsky7876]

Kalpani Wickramage smart man

[@aidancarter5]

Kalpani Wickramage Donut is amazing!!! Love these guys!

[@melbournetaylor4265]

@@sampiafsky7876 he is 😂😂

[@Gustinpham]

Donut and fitment industries are my fav channels Bc of this

[@maxcheese382]

Justin Pham idk why but I don’t enjoy fitment industries I think I just don’t like the hosts too much. Like nothing against them they seem like cool guys just not my cup of tea

[@brandongil5160]

“One of the simplest mods!” Loses his shit twice! Lol

[@kevinhawley3303]

xD yes!!!! lmao made my day

[@ghosttoast8326]

If you don't curse you aren't trying lol

[@nullpointer1984]

Compared to newer cars this was super easy.

[@vaidasspu]

@@nullpointer1984 It's super easy on a Mclaren

[@siswanto5229]

Vaidas Spu its not super easy to buy mclaren

[@JDMMasters]

Add fender bracers, you will feel the difference immediately.

[@JDMMasters]

@Jay'sWorld! No, fender bracers. Inside the fenders.

[@BigWillba]

@@JDMMasters where you get them never heard of them

[@elcuh7939]

@@BigWillba I think they are also called “frog arms” they stiffen up the car vertically and laterally making it handle better

[@briank10101]

Sway bars nullify the independence of the suspension.

[@guzman7590]

@@briank10101 that a bad thing or good thing?

[@LaczPro]

4:56 LIGHTNING! in his knee. I know that feeling bro.

[@Donut]

Bad lightning

[@Earle_Arts]

Torn meniscus in mine knee and I have hit it on my short car a ton, sucks so much

[@f0rr3stgump]

"Are big brake kits / upgraded pads and rotors worth it?" Next on money pit?

[@Rd-fb9mo]

Nathan Crouse watch the hi vs lo series the do a test with brakes and rotors and compare them

[@kinafermusic2456]

Mr.BigBoss7 technically doesn’t increase braking ability, but increases the ability of the brakes to dissipate heat (which becomes pretty important if you’re gonna be braking hard more than one time at a stoplight) and lets them maintain performance. Otherwise, braking performance is limited by tire grip.

[@SimanSlivar]

@@kinafermusic2456 it can depending on design pad selection ect... Drilled rotors actually help in some cases, but many people keep saying they don't... It comes down to physics. Clamping force remains the same but with drilled rotors the overall pressure on the given rotor area is increased. That's the reason you see cross drilled rotors on race cars. Some pad materials need a certain pressures to work effectively, so drilled rotors can help dial that in. This is most noted with ceramic based pads.

[@intecz2950]

@@SimanSlivar Not really true sorry. If clamping force remains the same, the "pressure" will stay the same, on any rotor. For example 10 newtons (force) being applied to a rotor. That force doesnt change from the amount of holes in it, or surface texture. Surface texture DOES effect braking though, just not the amount of holes. What the holes do in drilled rotors is dissipate heat better than non drilled rotors. Its kinda like opening all the windows in your house. The more windows, the better circulation of heat, which cools down your house! That is if theres no wind aha. So as a result of less heat, you get longer track time without brake fade. BUT one of the biggest problems with drilled rotors is the fact that when they heat up too much, they end up cracking or warping, which greatly effects your brakes!! Nowadays people are turning more towards Slotted Rotors, including GT3 race cars and other race cars. They dont crack as often or ever which is nice. What the slots do is release gases from under the pad, and also wipe the pad of any debris, oils , etc, etc. They dissipate more heat than solid rotors, but not as much as drilled rotors. But the fact that your rotors wont crack and completely fail is a pretty good trade off. Also pads dont need a certain pressure, but more so a certain temperature. Watch GT3 cars at the beginning of the race on the warm up lap. They accelerate really fast then slam on the brakes, trying to get heat in them. Also if you ever buy race pads for your daily car, i think they have a warning that they arent for street use, simply because your brakes dont get very hot driving on the street. sorry for the novel. not trying bash you for your comment, but theres some iffy info out there, and lets face it we're all here to learn! i know i am

[@Prestiged_peck]

@@kinafermusic2456 but if you put like 12 inch wide street slicks on something with brakes made for like 4 inch wide highway tires, I think you might run into your brake limit before the tire slips with stock brakes, I know I do with my rears on both cars, then again the cobra has one frozen open caliper and the gt has ceramic pads in back, but even when the gt had semi metallic pads in back, those 285 wide falken azenis fk510s DO NOT SKID, like doesn't even engage ABS

[@JSmooove]

bro, you do an incredible job at explaining the mods, their functions and intricacies. I'm 30 years old, never really was a gear head growing up, although I can appreciate a piece of vehicular art. i've been watching this series and all the upgrades you've been putting on and i'm learning so much. you really have a knack for making things easy to understand. well done, bro.

[@sleazymeezy]

Bro, I'm sitting here about to upgrade sway bars on my Y51

[@avitgarcia1791]

Zach: *Throws tools out from under the car into the yard* Future Zach: where’d my 10mm go 😱

[@levidaniels585]

*runs over it with the lawn mower* Zach: "found it!"

[@bothijssen1809]

@Crotch Banister are you simping on Zach buddy?

[@hachirokami]

False! Any body who works on cars with metric hardware has a box full of 8 and 10mm cause you lose all the time lol

[@สดชื่น-ด9ผ]

hachirokami : No, I had mine over 30 years S&K from Japan, great tools 😃

[@SAMPLETEXT285]

@Crotch Banister so do you know him better then us? Stfu stop simping

[@Powatodacarz1]

*annoying robo dialer* we've been trying to rea... "F*** OFF!!" Same bro, same.

[@nelsongonzalez8754]

For reals that shit gets annoying

[@codyknarich3949]

William Patton i get that same call and ive asked to be put on the no call list 2 times 😂

[@supperpika]

Relatable

[@JeffReeves]

Just start messing with them. I tell them that I'm dumping the body like they asked and that they better have my money when I get back.

[@Powatodacarz1]

I usually ask them if they'll pay me to repair my own car since I'm a mechanic 😂 I almost got one guy to say yes once

[@dylanscrivani383]

I love how he's basically testing all of the mods that we typically want to try out on our own rides, and if they make a difference.

[@ody2cuffs508]

I love this show. Learning how each mod directly impacts the performance of the car. Is really enlightening. Thank you Zach, Donut, and Donut Sponsors. 🤙

[@Donut]

That's what I like to hear! Thank YOU!

[@ateague01]

1:37 That’s the same way I answer those calls 😂😂😂😂

[@JAK0E]

Same here but sometimes i let them transfer me to an agent and when i tell them my car is a 97 suzuki sidekick and i would love some extended warranty they hang up

[@dekoldrick]

@@JAK0E Maybe I should do the same and tell them I have a 93 Honda Accord and an 88 Ford F150.

[@JAK0E]

@@dekoldrick haha I guess their scam is to get ahold of people with brand new cars idk. They don't like old cars. If you do talk to them let Hank or Mary know I miss their calls lol

[@iguessitsmanny]

I just dial a bunch of numbers until they hang up lol

[@Tonio_onair]

Who called him? Who was that?

[@amarisullivan7811]

The way he explained what sway bars were added to me as a person and made me subscribe

[@ismaelrios7046]

8:40 the camera man starts backing up when he starts throwing tools 😂

[@MrDylanm842]

Health and safety comes first for the camera men

[@doctorsuarez]

Great for FWD cars. My Accord’s stock bar was like a coat hanger. Replaced with one from an Acura TL and it made a huge difference.

[@JaboiZon]

Exactly what I’m doing right now should be here in 3 days it’s the 20mm bar for the rear. How much did it improve it?

[@mamel000]

I used to own a NB Miata in my 20’s and thanks to your series I’m getting another one.

[@benjaminshaver4533]

My reasons for watching money pit: 40% practical and easy to understand knowledge about cars. 60% Zach’s overwhelming attractiveness. 100% MIATA SHOOT FIRE

[@ushyamamoto7098]

U just had to make it gay huh

[@NovaZocket52]

Ush Yamamoto tf? U the one being gay

[@lancia-037]

Nice math

[@ushyamamoto7098]

NovaZocket52 so pointing out that one man is being homosexual is gay? You definitely gay too.

[@ushyamamoto7098]

Amphedroxyn you’re in the closet buddy just come on out

[@twlghtrn]

I'm 39 and I have never gotten drivers license but now I'm watching all these car parts videos just because I'm playing Mon Bazou. It's even in the algorithm now.

[@bigchanges94]

Money pit for sure if my new favourite series. I am modifying my Miata at the moment and you guys are literally doing everything I am wanting to do, Zach is crazy knowledgeable too, so cheers bois.

[@colinleder5683]

I'm in the same boat with my NB. Aaaaand now I want to buy sway bars, that wasn't in my watch list but here we go, money pit right

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Not literally, no.

[@thejay8963]

Daytona Says What?! Oh, what a great rebuttal... Shut up.

[@MichaelBrown-wx6zq]

It does affect straight line performance. It makes the suspension less independent. If only one wheel hits a bump, a stronger sway bar will apply more force to the other tire

[@johnterpack3940]

Two years later and this is still the only comment pointing out he was wrong about the effects of sway bars. On actual race cars and OEM applications the sway bar rate is calculated as part of the spring rate. They work to balance the two for the expected conditions. A beefy sway bar on rough roads will almost certainly slow you down.

[@qualityguacamole9142]

I was wondering what the catch was to this!! Coz if the positives outweigh the negatives by that much, then manufacturers would’ve had that installed on already out of the factory

[@alisdairherd9501]

They are installed from factory, just the manufacturer will try to balance performance and driveability. Considering that consumer cars don't generally live on tracks the sway bar from factory is more compliant to deal with rough roads.

[@dielaughing73]

​@@johnterpack3940yes, it's true.. but sways on their own don't hurt ride quality very much if the springs and dampers are still stock. However, if you're on stiff coilovers then stiff sways are quite noticeable. You have to judge whether you value a comfortable ride or lap times more.

[@johnterpack3940]

@@dielaughing73 It isn't about ride quality at all. Making sway bars too stiff can hurt lap times under some conditions. He made it out in the video like sway bars were a free lunch, they aren't.

[@fhowland]

One point of clarification: all other things remaining equal, larger sway bars *reduce* grip; its somewhat counter intuitive, but true. More body roll actually increases grip, which is why most cars are setup to have a decent amount from the factory.

[@pabito7347]

Yea body roll on avarage stock cars going mild speeds, But someone who will drive the car harder needs that rigidity and responsiveness wich will sometimes cause a loose a grip but ultimately makes the car more predictable to control .Roll at mild speeds can somewhat help balance cars but on agressive driving roll compromises a lot

[@hanynowsky]

Compensate with UHP tires which have shitloads of grip (Michelin PS4s)

[@fhowland]

@@hanynowsky yep I’m running Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s. So much grip

[@hanynowsky]

@@fhowland great choice 👍

[@RainyB0i]

I’m saving this whole series for my first car.

[@crazyadam9281]

I was thinking of doing the same but I remember I drive a shitty 03 Fiat Seicento Sporting.

[@stephanekarrasch9187]

@@crazyadam9281 it's actually a fun little car

[@mihailpetrovici5044]

Save money also, you'll need a lot of them

[@crazyadam9281]

@@stephanekarrasch9187 it can be fun, I guess I was being a bit overly dramatic about my Seicento.

[@jordancailes8383]

Just make sure your first car isn’t something lame like a sun fire

[@davidhauser3261]

Quick answer: Yes

[@Seb123]

Yes

[@anthony5243]

yes

[@Donut]

Yes

[@kanekatsu_]

Yes

[@rifau950]

yes

[@benaspuckus41]

Very nice video! Just want to point out a couple of things: • If the sway-bars are equally thicker, weight transfer will still be the same. Same weight will only be transferred quicker. You can only reduce weight transfer by lowering center of gravity or by widening vehicle track. • Stiffer sway bars can also affect ride quality even going in a straight line. By making these bars thicker you actually link both sides of suspension together. So if you hit a bump only with one wheel, this impact will move to the other side thus making ride quality a bit harsher. This can especially be felt when driving over poor road surfaces.

[@henrent]

agreed especially with your second point. There is no free lunch.

[@ryancaoo5503]

@@henrentsway bars aren’t free

[@dielaughing73]

True, and when coupled with stiffer springs, stiff swaybars affect ride quality even more because a small bump on one side of the car is always transferred to the other side. Still worth it from a performance perspective though

[@Daniel.Ghoust]

This car needs a spinny Boi Who wants to see this Thang boosted??!!!?

[@Vaermxna]

JDM_Dude superchargers are pretty good on miatas as well

[@nickg6312]

@@Vaermxna i want to see a supercharger. everyone has turbos. superchargers are great for daily cars

[@modernyt854]

Nicholas Gionet yeah but aren’t they trying to go for the cheaper and reasonable mods? Super chargers are hella pricey

[@kylewest100]

SupraBoi thats what I was gonna say

[@heygek2769]

put on a small turbo so there's barely any lag, kinda like the ford ecoboost

[@camcam7874]

my favorite build series i think ever. zach is such a good host i’m so happy to have him at donut

[@thejay8963]

TNT Doge is an amazing profile picture.

[@jasonbaldwin6760]

Sway bars are easily the best dollar to performance mod out there, even on a completely stock vehicle it is a night and day difference. I'd also say that poly bushings are an underrated suspension mod as well.

[@allanmathew6687]

This is literally the best thing on the internet right now

[@paulk9813]

For some reason when Zach hit his knee, I felt like it was a huge character development moment. Like I learned some really important plot points. What happened to the knee, Zach.

[@gabrielluiscontreras9188]

He was an adventurer like you once...

[@SaltyJoe189]

He crashed a motorcycle

[@ZetaTango83]

@@gabrielluiscontreras9188 until he took a bumper to the knee

[@hotrodmercury3941]

I did a full suspension swap out with my Mercury Grand Marquis. With the added power of Maruader bits and those tiny Tweeks. It felt like a whole different car on and off the track. It felt like I was in one of those movie cop cars, cashing a perp. It's back home, god I miss that thing. One of the things I learned is when you adjust your suspension. Count the turns you use. Also go back after install and a brisk test drive to re torque anything to ensure everything is nice and tight. That way nothing is forgotten, nothing will fall out. Its 100% safe, which safe is good.

[@piotrpaczuski4060]

Reading some comments I feel like: Oh, hell, Miata is going to get up in price.

[@SkylerB17]

they are up. im trying to buy one right now and people are asking crazy prices for basically beaters

[@andychillin2579]

Piotr Paczuski yea from 4K to 7k now 😭

[@louiemanning]

Mine has appreciated by 3k in two years

[@trashedandbashed3871]

Quick someone make a video talking about how terrible miatas are so they can depreciate

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

Most Miata drivers I see are age 45+ white men. Very few people under that age. Which makes sense, because it's meant to be someone's second or third vehicle, not their only one.

[@ThatGuy3141]

4:55 I felt that in my soul, I've done that to many times to count working on my car.

[@jalenad11]

Every time I use ramps because I'm too lazy to use jack stands lol

[@Sam_Hannam]

Love this series literally the most realistic thing out there. Tools being thrown around is absolutely spot on 😂

[@westleyparker7810]

I really like him, he's got a more serious James vibe. He SOUNDS like he knows what he's doing

[@tonybanana4016]

Not having a girlfriend is part of my weight reduction kit

[@afterhourss4732]

Lonely driver gang

[@emanuelruiz7710]

✊😭

[@AKK5I]

@G wtf

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

@G A 4 door sedan corvette.

[@adanflores4523]

@G buy a gun

[@bradjordan6984]

I went with the subwoofer upgrade, I liked it so much I got another, one for each side of the hatch. my acceleration got worse but my braking got noticeably better. I also go through pads and rotors faster but worth every penny. highly recommended!

[@jonathanwilson1672]

“It’s as easy as removing the hardware.” Unless its a freaking Mazdaspeed 3 with the front sway bar on top of the subframe!

[@JaRrYCAW]

Haha same with E92, have to remove the entire rear subframe for the rear sway bar lol

[@krudmuphinstudioz]

I had a Volvo S40 which was the same platform. The sway bars, and practically everything suspension related was a total pain in the ass on that car lol

[@fuzzcopter467]

G just make the race 100k miles in anything and you should be good. Subie will blow up long before then

[@kju520]

@G Something light and takes well to turbocharging

[@anthonyd5157]

Jonathan Wilson sane on my focus 🙄 the rear is simple though

[@masonwood6765]

You should do a give away with one of the old parts off of the Miata signed by the whole donut crew

[@jordanbwalt]

Everyone please upvote this ffs. This is an awesome idea

[@rustytrident8282]

Nice idea!

[@TrickiVicBB71]

This should totally be a thing

[@zacjohnson452]

I agree

[@xXShadowXx12334]

🖐🖐🖐

[@ericMT]

Sway bar upgrade is an especially important upgrade for Subarus (or other sporty sedans) but it’s often overlooked because it doesn’t change the look of the car at all. Instant handling increase, better than springs and easy to install. Tires are also a big factor. I’d do those 2 things first before anything else.

[@gm5383]

"this will never be a really fast straight line car" *all the turbo mx5s* "Am I a joke to you?"

[@jacklondon7873]

UK V6 Jag swapped Miatas too hehe

[@07wrxtr1]

He's gonna turbo it... just wait...

[@Sheridantank]

The LS Miatas fell out their chair laughing

[@GustavCarl17]

Demon swapped Miata’s have joined the chat

[@Funny_Milkman]

fast means less than 4 sec to 62mph

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 133 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@aziz_alrumayyan6712]

Yes also a up to speed on chrysler

[@BK-mv2mk]

@@aziz_alrumayyan6712 wrong comment thread.

[@alexgrant6965]

He is a man of commitment, dedication and sheer fucking will.

[@olegkolesnikov7155]

When you see a Donut vid posted "3 min ago" and want to beat Pagani Gaming to the comments but see a Hyura taillight as the top comment :[

[@AhmadHassan-uk2ff]

No man its not day 133, you just commented to get some attention, its actually day 270.....

[@spencermill10]

I like how you always explain not only WHAT you're doing, but WHY. Makes it a lot easier to pick and choose what I want to do to my car, even if it's not the same as what you do

[@redeyedfreaks]

"Which is as easy as removing the hardware from the away bar brackets" Snapped two of the four rusted bolts. Thanks Midwest. Hope everyone has a good tap and die kit

[@Dixby_floppy]

When he hit his knee, I felt his pain. I can't tell you how many times I've hit, cut or bumped something on my LS swapped miata.

[@xxtreestump002]

Trevor Fitz did you have to tell us it was ls swapped…

[@yadeenkabir1215]

Dayyyyumn

[@Dixby_floppy]

Duh how else would you know. Psh. Reading it over it does look like a big ego though lol.

[@davidhenneberg6772]

Trevor Fitz it sound like a really big ego but it’s still a nice swap, but isn’t it a little bit heavy or is it possible to put it far behind (front mid engine) for a good weight ratio?

[@Dixby_floppy]

@@davidhenneberg6772 it all depends on your driving style and how you like the feeling. I set mine up for drifting. Which is great for IMO. Different strokes for different folks

[@smokeymotorsport]

I've put away bars on BMW 5 series and cars that size a couple of times. Stiffening the rear helps make the balance more tail happy, along with camber adjustments. So it works on big heavy stuff too! Really enjoy Zach's videos, very genuine transfer of knowledge stuff

[@seekerofthetruths]

Neglected to mention that stiffer sway bars will hurt your grip on rougher roads as this limits the suspensions ability to adapt to the road with each individual wheel. Back roads I grew up racing on it was real common to just get a stiffer rear bar to keep the ass flat and prevent understeer while letting the front articulate over the rough stuff and maximize grip.

[@winebartender6653]

Just to add in general, there are always compromises when it comes to sway bar stiffness, front and rear. Front: the stiffer, the more understeer, caused by removing weight from the tire getting the most traction (the outside, due to the larger radius from corner centerpoint). Though you are keeping more weight on the inside compared to a softer bar, you are exchanging downward force for lateral force. As an extreme example, if you were on ice, higher downward force on one tire is going to give you better grip than redistributing that force both laterally and to the other tire. The benefits of higher stiffness in the front will be better mid corner tracking and corner exit, as there will be less weight transfer occurring. Rear: The stiffer, the more oversteer and a higher chance of snap oversteer, especially in the wet. Same ice example applies above. The stiffer will help with corner entry/turn in, but will negatively affect corner exit because of the same grip changes and more oversteer nature of the setup. As with anything suspension related, there is a balance between all the components (spring rate, dampening, ride height(center of gravity), vehicle weight (corner weight more precisely) and sway bar stiffness being the big ones). Too stiff is just as bad as too soft. There are compromises no matter the setup, but what works the best falls on the conditions you plan on driving in.

[@hemiplow1297]

@@winebartender6653 front bar does make the turn in feel better aswell but softer front feels less good but grips better

[@elijahortiz1354]

3:26 i really appreciate this edit

[@khex_bb]

Im just watching this 2 years later and totally felt his frustration as he tossed his tools, hurt himself, the groaning and creaking....and to get up and say "I hope its worth it"...EVERY SINGLE TIME I DO ANYTHING WITH MY CAR! Nice stuff!

[@Abraham_R_]

1:38 that’s literally me everyday with scammers

[@LastKnight0727]

I answer them and when they ask me to confirm the Year, Make, Model I just say, "1980" *click* they hang up on me

[@TPEsprit]

It's so true! Stay safe! 🔹🧡🔹

[@holdendeaner5283]

Destroying your knee trying to apply leverage under a car, now this feels like I’m watching someone work on a project.

[@roshi98]

Love that you show the bruisy parts of working on a car. Can't tell you how many times I've done the roll of pain and shame under my car after bashing myself on some evil piece of metal...

[@mysterygozosk8er]

This money pit series had been a blessing for me! Since I bought my first project car and for my luck is a miata 😂👌🏾

[@jaxkovatch8033]

Its funny after watching this I finally ordered a works rear sway bar for my 4g eclipse, I got a call from the company and it was the last one to ever be sold.

[@TeddyGallei]

I installed a beefy rear sway bar in my 2015 Subaru Outback, because the stock bar made the car really soft in curves. While you want it soft, when off roading, or back roading, then keep the OEM bar. If you want street performance, the upgrade was awesome. If I want to go off road, I'll just take the sway bar out, LOL!

[@theFreakyLock]

Sway bar is Easy and fast to install. Me as a w126 driver: "LOOOOOOL! "

[@adammiller8133]

The Mercedes life has its drawbacks

[@ramadhanisme7]

is it that difficulty to install a sway bar in a merc? I never done one though

[@Wtrxprs007able]

@@ramadhanisme7 they're usually somewhat hidden between the k frame and body which means lowering/removing the k frame to get to them. A number of cars have it that way just to make room for other things

[@kaboom555]

@@adammiller8133 same in modern BMWs. Sway bar install requires dropping the subframe, both front and rear. huge pain in the ass

[@marcusmcneal7453]

Drop that subframe lol

[@fmh357]

There's a lot more to sway bars than just keeping the car flat. The way they load the tires in transients and steady state cornering is even more important as feel. Your coil overs are even in the mix. Every car is different of course but most RWD cars can get pretty hairy if you get too much stiffness in the rear bar. Too much in the front can make the car plow and too much in the rear can make it over steer wildly. Good reason to buy a quality tested kit vs Billy Bobs one off custom bars. By the way I love your project and Donut Media. Keep up the good work and thanks.

[@Justtwodangmany]

My first hearty set of bars were installed on my 88 Trans Am. They had to be broken in to be safe. The first couple days, i could slide my rear end around every corner without any throttle, they were so damn stiff. Best suspension upgrade Ive ever done. Driving it was better than ever. Miss it.

[@drenels10]

1:38 “we’ve been trying to reach you about your cars warranty” “Awww Fuuu” I feel your pain bro 🤣😭😭

[@blazervol3357]

Most annoying thing EVER to be in the middle of doing something, your phone rings, you try to drop everything you have to answer it and then it is THAT SAME MESSAGE! I quit answering my phone. I'll call them back if i know the number

[@mynamecrispy873]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@epiclocksensie]

I’ve been using your videos to trick out my 2019 Camry XSE and man, it’s such a drastic difference from stock

[@niconicht4982]

Taking my Golf around the Nurburgring regularly and installing sway bars was the best mod i could‘ve done. The car was always breaking loose in the rear, after the installation there was no such thing anymore. I can approve they are bang for the buck.

[@Indigo_gt86]

The next episode should be “Are Girlfriends worth it?”

[@matthew_natividad]

Probably

[@Display42069]

No

[@Derpderpson123]

Lonely drivers represent!

[@martenthijssen8406]

Itsuki is that you

[@kamronpowell5784]

Lmao

[@connormorse1010]

Let’s see more handling mods (strut bar), or interior mods like bucket seats, roll cage, steering wheel.

[@smokeymotorsport]

I was thinking stiffening mods, like strut bar and sub frame connectors, all that stuff

[@NV-NS]

Rewatching all these videos as I build my 87 MR2. It's great knowledge to know on what to spend on. Thanks again

[@Chevrolicious.]

So, my two cents about sway bars/ anti-roll bars is, make sure you do your research and get bars that are spec'd out right for your application (or get adjustable ones). Sway bars over no sway bars is almost always a plus, but if you go too big or too small, they can really negatively impact your handling. For example, too large (too stiff) of a sway bar on the front can cause the car to under-steer, whereas too small (too soft) of a sway bar can not only cause over-steer, but also make it difficult to recover from over-input on the steering.

[@l00tur]

In FWD applications it's nearly always worth dumping the front sway. Those who can recover from under-steer understanding the benefits of increased tracking outweigh the mild negatives. During normal driving a lack of a sway bar will not be noticed. In the event the car starts to understeer simply lay off the accelerator and the car without much drama will correct on it's own. Any suspension stiffer than stock greatly reduces the need for a sway bar in the front. This is for track, auto-x, spirited, etc.

[@zelosXIV]

This series and your skills as a mechanic, make everything look so simple! Either that, or my anxiety and second guessing are getting in my own way 😂

[@billthecat2410]

Sway bars were the best upgrade for the NA Miata. They left them a little bit too loose for the stock setup for comfort and adding a good set of sway bars really planted the car to the road nicely. Easy to install and not expensive to get so much better handling is def. a big help.

[@Bassplayermane]

"We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" Handled correctly

[@mhymyk4022]

I always mess with them, they hang up on me. Say some shit like "2017 Lamborghini Aventador" when they ask for make and model

[@Bassplayermane]

@@mhymyk4022 I once replied with my 84 Mazda Rx7 and they said "I'm sorry, we only cover vehicles newer than 2008" I shouted back, "then why the **** do y'all keep calling me then?!?" *In a very worried voice* "Well, looks like you have everything you need, have a great day" *click*

[@mhymyk4022]

@@Bassplayermane I've even replied with the cars I actually drive, once a 92 Explorer, now a 91 MR2, they still hang up on me...

[@negativeindustrial]

Mhymyk I did the ‘91 MR2 Turbo on them two weeks ago. They hung up quick! Guess they’ve worked on an MR2 before 🤣

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Mhymyk Nice n

[@palmermonsen9098]

Loving this show, Keep it up, I look forward to it every Wednesday!

[@psavel274]

@ 7:30 you mentioned one of the ESSENTIAL factors about preload and I'm glad you did. Respect points +1 for knowing what you're talking about.

[@rigom.2853]

8:42 You're not really working on your vehicle if this doesn't happen at least once during the process.

[@bartzalewski]

was going to make a similar comment. solo driveway wrenching pretty much guarantees some moments of utter frustration. this makes this series is so relatable to me. especially compared to the guys in a/c shops with lifts and every specialty tool imaginable.

[@andrewbryl]

lol truth!

[@brainc0la-_-]

The reality of this series is hooking me in.

[@javi8378]

Man this episode had everything from laughter, to sadness and most of all drama a lot of drama between the Miata and Zach

[@Arturo_S3]

I got h&r sway bars on my a3 and I couldn't agree more. It's one of the best mods I've done so far, specially with a couple negative degrees of toe at the front and some camber plates. The car turns in insanely good.

[@limash8424]

I was waiting for Zach to say, "Am Zach, this is snake-pit 🐍"

[@STR76]

Nimbly bimbly - shout out to Super Troopers - Listen here meow

[@Naw1dawg]

Love how there’s a library of these videos now. Almost every part you can upgrade they have a video on. Thanks

[@lilhorts17]

"easy to install" snaps the bolt welded to the inside of the frame rail so bolt spins nut in frame rail. DOPE

[@ReviewedByAndy]

Billy Horton this is why I hate suspension work with a passion. I swear every suspension job I’ve done on any car I’ve owned has been a nightmare. I promise I’m not complete shit at wrenching.

[@KevAlberta]

Andrew Guyther looks like illl leave my away bars alone 😂

[@vincentnghiem9280]

happened exactly to me but it was my friends car

[@shona5512]

@@ReviewedByAndy I'm that way too. I fucking hate working on Suspension. The only time I ever had a good time was when I was putting coilovers in my Volvo V40.. and even then, that's because Volvo made the hub carrier out of cast aluminium and all the bolts are stainless steel.

[@ancientapparition1638]

50/50 atf/acetone mix. shake before using. spray down all bolts and nuts every now and again for a week before doing the job. It will help tremendously even if you dont do the entire week. Just good penetrant in general

[@alopee4848]

When you here just to see Zach get super mad at his Miata.

[@TheCloudsMySofa]

modding tantrum

[@fzproject6462]

it could've been worst

[@nightkiler56]

Cars get frustrating really quick

[@xXShadowXx12334]

😂😂

[@MC-us2ci]

Thanks!

[@SaucyCat_]

“This is never really going to be fast in a straight line” *Sad LS noises*

[@mathieulevasseur4082]

I'd settle for a K series.

[@connivingkhajiit]

keep those filthy LSs away from these pure cars

[@davidhenneberg6772]

Michael Remington I would put a APY in it (the 1.8 Turbo engine from the old Audi S3, it’s insane what this thing can handle in comparison to the normal 1.8 T)

[@obsidiannightwolfe13]

You mean a VW 1.8t?

[@davidhenneberg6772]

obsidiannightwolfe13 no, the APY and BAM are different engines, they came only in the S3 and the TT Quattro

[@threetwosev]

This EP is way better than the last. I must say, the initial ep of the series states that this would be a sincere look at how to improve your car. The last ep seemed like fluff and was pretty much useless. IMO, because the last ep seemed to be out of line with the original intention of the series. This Ep is a nice back to the intent subject matter. I watch to see how the car is improving with each mod. There's a sincerity that I feel is important for this series to maintain.

[@tjyau7068]

Absolutely my favorite part of the show cause it gives me the insight and courage to do it myself and the installs make a huge difference.

[@mariejohanna2166]

No front, but I personally like this show more than science garage. It was a great show and all but this is just awsome!!

[@IN5T1NK3D]

“Maybe some subwoofers” lmao he spoke to literally every single muscle car guy out there Edit: man y’all are poppin off

[@8.2deck]

"Modern muscle car guys"

[@dylanhernandez378]

We already got the powa baby

[@SuitOne]

@@8.2deck Just because it doesn't have a 12 liter V8 making 300 hp doesn't make new muscle cars any less than old ones.

[@manoahvanderwolf3259]

Not really. matter of fact, ESPECIALLY muscle cars benefit from suspension upgrades, so if you're not a 'purist' you'll happily install upgrades like that over any lousy sound system nonsense. There is also literally no single way you can ever compare miata money to muscle car money.

[@rickcornelissen3466]

Ouch , muscle car owners felt that

[@ibbyseed]

i love how this is now just a miata build along. really needed this bc he brakes everything down in a great way

[@BiggCliph]

I love how at 8:40 the camera person starts backing up cus Zach is pissed 😂

[@HumbleMechanic]

YAS YAS YAS!!! One of my fav mods

[@EVAN-re2yo]

I hate when my mechanic become humble. they will just turn my car into gay!

[@itsOculus]

>yas gay

[@reggiemiller6274]

@@itsOculus bruh 🤣

[@zorandesign]

you're great but picked the wrong brand to work with/on. you should switch brands, seriously.

[@JackVinall35]

@@zorandesign why, it’s what he likes so why should he change for others preferences.

[@robosullivan704]

I agree, I definitely noticed them on my G37.. I appreciate the comparison of degrees of roll!

[@aallffoonnssoopotato8280]

"Are short throw dipsticks worth it?"

[@GertieYTube]

I need a new dipstick, it does not reach the oil anymore

[@thejay8963]

Brandon Kilian Talk to your mechanic about Viagroil today.

[@tommyriordan870]

These are really funny comments😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@wesleyellis9451]

An aftermarket dipstick would actually be a great thing for most Nissans

[@kennethblindheim2676]

@@wesleyellis9451 bmw e46's too. the original ones always rust at the top.

[@oldred9122]

10:09 What is that yellow chicken car in the background?!

[@rolyat]

Forbidden knowledge

[@vinie.-z.3565]

Yoo, nice catch.

[@subwayracing]

So we not gonna talk about that chicken?

[@suprastevio2264]

Los Pollos Hermanos ;)

[@miata-focus3455]

Tommy Kendall's chicken car. Dinner with Racers has a funny podcast episode where Tommy talks about it.

[@matthewnash2840]

I love watching money pit .I'm working on a 2005 saab 9-5 turbo project at the moment and all this help thanks guy's

[@chrispewkreme]

Nobody: Literally nobody: Govt: stay home Miata owners: I set up a slalom course in my neighborhood

[@ornithorhynchusanatinus2167]

It's perfect, while everyone's at home you can use the streets like a private course