Doom II: Sunder - Map 07 (Hollow Icon) UV-Max in

[@Starduster]

Cyber infighting with the wall at 11:26 lol. Those were some tight moments at the end with limited health.

[@MSalmanAlvi]

hahaha

[@Quiltfish]

5:25 I love this imagery. Doomguy striding slowly between and just slightly ahead of two crashing waves of death, like a reverse Moses for demons.

[@the_broly_arms]

It's always such a delight watching you play through these absolute back breaker maps. Players like you and Decino gave me the push to start making some DOOM-related content, albeit at a far, far lesser skill level bwahahaha, so I thank you! And keep up the amazing runs.

[@ajmcnab3651]

I love how it doesn't matter whether you're 8% health/no armour or fully stacked after picking up a mega sphere, you still play exactly the same- absolute disregard for potential death, full focus on the best UV max time. Respect.

[@humanbeing_]

To be fair, I've learned that all speed-runners play this way. They first play maps with saves & loads to establish their route. Maybe they use a variation of an already established route by another player. Then once ready they record the demo and run their route. If they die, they start over, record the next demo - rinse & repeat until a obtaining a successful run commonly referred to as an "exit" or getting their "exit". There are players that get exits on mere single digit attempts, to 10's of runs, or 100's of runs... It depends on the map, the WAD, the player, and even the category. But some maps take 1000's of attempts to get a successful exit; even 10's of thousands of runs - There are IWAD runners that made over 50,000 attempts to shave off mere frames/tics or a SINGLE frame. I only mention this b/c what we see are the successful runs, and it looks badass to just go at all the monsters. But make no mistake, ZM put in work (literally) to get his exit. He's an incredibly gifted & dedicated player, and an equally incredibly integral part of the Doom community -- Doomworld, dsdarchive.org, dsda-doom sourceport, DooMed Speed Demos Archive on KZbin & DoomSpeedDemos Twitch.tv channel [to name a few]. _My bad if you knew all this already_ :)

[@kinetic03]

don't blink, play fearlessly with confidence you can win

[@Kapomafioso]

@@humanbeing_ fun fact, a map of 10 minutes, at 50,000 attempts amounts to almost a year of pure gameplay. (this comment about 50,000 attempts was probably about some shorter map) It's funny when people mention low damage rolls, but that's expected - out of hundreds of attempts, the one where ZM successfully gets to the exit is likely the one where he gets lower damage rolls by a random chance when convenient. Even the most skillful player in the world can't avoid getting SOME damage throughout the run (potentially failing the attempt). That being said, there's something very satisfying (but ultimately boring, no butt clenching moments) about the no hit TAS where the player "magically" dodges all the projectiles.

[@hansolo631]

Crazy run. He got hit out of nowhere by monster damage rolls so many times, plus no armor - everything that touched him was blowing him up.

[@humanbeing_]

GG! You already explained in the description the risks for this particular route, but to put that into perspective for this run with the exit: 16% Health ~ 4:45 11% Health ~ 5:05 13% Health ~ 9:33 ( you had 88% Health at 9:54 ) 13% Health ~ 9:57 Health Pickup to 38% ~ 9:58: tics Right back to 8% Health ~ 9:58:tics Certainly a *Balls of Steel* / _Chest Hair_ route. Congrats, and good to hear your arm is feeling better.

[@ablayhappy8969]

Finally, doom 2 sunder! I waited! When I saw this new video, I jumped with happiness! Thank you Zero Master!

[@tylerjennings8242]

1:40 Lost Soul: Oh my god! Doomguy! I’m a huge fan! Will you sign my…

[@ryballs4569]

I thought that was at 4:34

[@tenhundredkills]

These Sunder runs are incredible! I can't wait for Maps 8 and 9!

[@eidntihstae666]

WOW! You really are a master! That was brutal!

[@BohdanS15]

Yes! I was waiting for this! Great playthrough, as always! It will get harder and harder through Sunder from now on. Keep up buddy, can't wait for the next video.

[@jamez6398]

Going for world record specifically, though, I wonder if it will be easier on some of the harder maps because the current record times will be less competitive because the difficulty of the map makes most people focus on UV maxing the map at all rather than doing so as efficiently and quickly as possible. I doubt he'll do the new Sunder maps, though. I don't even think maps 16 or 19 are even possible without saves...

[@BohdanS15]

@@jamez6398 I wish he would play new Sunder maps not for a record, but simply as a playthrough, you know, without a rush, just to complete the map.

[@jamez6398]

@@BohdanS15 Maps 15, 31, 32, and 17 have been done without saves, but maps 16 and 19 are impossible to do without saves...

[@geoffreyanderson2285]

Literally INSANE. Great run!

[@purebaldness]

As in YTer *InSaNe* or just regular insane?

[@ryballs4569]

@@purebaldness (not) literally (but still) INSANE

[@purebaldness]

@@ryballs4569 bro dude brah like literally INSANE bruh like srsly omg str8 fire bro whats the vibes (GONE INSANE)

[@Flickeralex]

Insane man!! Keep up the great job you're doing with Sunder!

[@CarmeloSantosF]

holy crap, that was insanely clutch. The low damage rolls when you had no armor were crazy. As always such a pleasure see you tackle this maps. Since I'm not a speedrunner, I play by the map's rules and it is quite fascinating to see the creative ways you use linedef skips to save so much time. This map took me like an hour and a half and left me exhausted. Incredible work, I can't wait for the maps to come. Hope your arm gets better!

[@mikeywest2007]

Most players:- clear each room before moving on Zero Master:- open up all rooms for maximum in-fighting

[@thesubinion]

So... every Slaughter map player ever?

[@mikeywest2007]

@@thesubinion the good ones yes

[@De-M-oN]

@@mikeywest2007 But it often makes it easier, because then you cause bigger infighting and you have more space to work with. Depends on what you open and on situation. In Speed of Doom Map28 it was easier for me too at some spots to open more areas at once.

[@SmokerFace12]

Insane. 7:37 "You know where I'd need to go rn? A pit full of punching revenants is where" Speechless

[@chaelcanterbury8787]

Great job. Out of everything that was made so far, Sunder is probably my most favorite megawad. Very nice to see you taking on it!

[@yoya8373]

Man, I hope you will feel better soon, we are nothing without you fighting the demons there, especially THAT cacoclouds that awaits for you on map08

[@WobblePizza]

That pain elemental swarm just evaporated. I guess there were enough cyberdemons.

[@DopeonaRope]

this whole run is a nail biter, good stuff Zero keep it up

[@flamensteinsdankmemestash]

What a legend

[@matheusrios4223]

he did it again, absolute legend :D

[@DaftMANIA]

the close calls in this video, damn, bad for your heart

[@scagish]

Ladies and gentlemen. The madman just did it again

[@jacekbourne]

Excellent. Yet another record beaten.

[@IIRaZZoRII]

Incredible. Simply incredible.

[@voidwalker3591]

Great run! Hope your left arm gets better.

[@plats5837]

He is back! Neat :^)

[@purebaldness]

Beef :

[@ayutac4056]

Dear Zero Master, I would be very interested in a video where you play a map the first time vs the end Speedrun.

[@Hyalyago]

The difference between regular players and players from the Doom World Elite like Zero Master is that Elite Players take less tries to mastering a map. They usually have 'em in a relatively few tries, they mostly go for improving time records or most effective and efficient routes.

[@purebaldness]

@@Hyalyago Elite Players, capitalised.

[@JohnnyBoyXDs-COD]

Good morning Slayer.

[@AceHalford]

I can't wait for Zero Master to take on Map 11, stunning map and an abosolute pain

[@pehhii]

The kill count increased by 1200+ in 1 damn minute... Hot damn...

[@christianvandegraaf9844]

Once again an insane run. Just out of curiosity though, is there a bug with the kill counter around 4:15? It keeps going up and down erratically. I thought it might be to do with archvile resurrections, but that isn't supposed to affect the counter afaik.

[@ZeroMaster]

DSDA-Doom is different from PrBoom, DSDA-doom follow the rules of the UV-Max category which is that all monsters must be dead, even if they were revived, while prboom will count a monster as dead if it was killed once (so 100% kills would appear on the intermission screen, but it might not be valid for uv-max).

[@christianvandegraaf9844]

@@ZeroMaster Nice. Thanks for the reply. Always interesting to learn new quirks about different ports.

[@ravexbl]

Oh look best doom player of all time 👀

[@weeblbob233]

Holy shit. Just incredible gameplay.

[@gast128]

What a carnage. SS4 Legion system seems to be already invented by Doom decades ago.

[@leoneldoleschal1194]

That moment when I thought the spiders will pulverized ya u feel it close zero master god of the RNG.

[@jumppaji]

Wait, where everybody go..? Last time I checked the kill count was 741, like a minute later it was over 2000:D great job, awesome run!

[@ViscusLupus]

11:15 cyberdemon double kill

[@terrytrollface]

It took me damn near a half hour to beat this level blind... With saves. I underestimate my ammo on most maps so I mostly relied on infighting. Seeing this run is kind of like taking a step back and finally being able to the complete painting. I could've stood to play more aggressively in some of these areas. Good luck on the next map, it's hard to run out of rocket ammo on it.

[@Harzexe]

New video! Yasss! 🥰

[@Eddie_M4d]

It would be nice to have a video where you only put the failures, so some here will have the true dimension of how difficult Doom is. Congratulations on your move.

[@GumersindoH]

Infighting was much more effective in the old doom games. They barely damage each other in 2016 and eternal. Always wonder why they nerfed it.

[@purebaldness]

It's not so bad in 2016 compared to Eternal: on the Cultist Base master level, just as you take control of the Revenant, all the enemies are infighting until you move/shoot. Took at least 10 whole minutes to destroy each other. As for why, I would imagine the smaller enemy count is one reason. It'd be too easy to take advantage of it IMO, especially with Eternal, that's designed to be challenging

[@L3ON360Z]

The infighting in Eternal is mostly scripted. I think they just wanted to avoid cheesing.

[@De-M-oN]

because infighting is a little bit op in classic doom tbh You would need by far less monsters to put into a slaughtermap when infighting would be off.

[@HeilAmarth]

Man, that's brutal.

[@strahm3]

Daniel Carreon: FACILÍSIMO VERDAD

[@dr.deathdavidlivesey0666]

Zero Master is Master of DooM

[@drmajalis1583]

Hope your arm feels better soon!

[@JLR77]

Impressive

[@SuperEarthkiller]

Epic

[@jafaroffmusic7876]

Zero, you are pure madman... I've got my butt clenching for so many times though xD

[@HistoricDefense]

When it comes to insane slaughtermaps, it's either TAS or it's Zero Master.

[@popgas3821]

Sunder's Hollow Icon be like waving to Okuplok 😄

[@purebaldness]

You be like typing BS 😄

[@garethdean6382]

Oh HELL yes. Pure platinum.

[@dmitriyg1030]

Finally!!) How much is the improvement?

[@samafrooz3666]

How the fruitbat did you survive the end with 13% and then 8% health?! No armour and any single shot couldve ruined the run and somehow you willed it.... fkn amazing and clutch run!

[@christianfensbo6980]

The Cyberdemon at 11:28 is afraid of spiders and found one?

[@egr1957]

This is the map my computer starts chugging at because of the mods.

[@spinningsquare1325]

3:38 wow why did you shoot the arch vile 😂😂😂😂😂

[@johneygd]

Cool run😁

[@maltardraco9555]

Picked up a medikit that you really need.

[@xedgeforeverx]

Do you go by Mr. Master or Dr. Master?

[@fredjones4820]

The amount of enemies you have to kill is insane added to the fact that the fire thing can respawn and there was a few of those. Has anyone finished this on nightmare?

[@medoed888]

You play great, 👍🏻.

[@paulhiggins140]

9:54 holy shit lol

[@abhijitrai1349]

"Games are for kids" Me playing Sunder

[@purebaldness]

Noone's said that since the early 90's...

[@loskedanne]

Nice that you've beaten BK's demo haha

[@tinhorsebrewery7506]

awesome!

[@bifidok]

Amazing

[@25756881]

Running among cyberdemons with 8% of health...

[@CastleGateGaming]

How fast can you UV MAX Hell Revealed 2 map 32 Playground?

[@franciscoopisanoo8636]

How can i play sunder? I have all dooms but cannot play sunder :(

[@drryanmorris]

This gives me anxiety

[@Supcharged]

Sometimes I wonder how much harder Doom would be with monster infighting turned off.

[@SpacialKatana]

gg wp

[@slim_pickins]

In a map like this, how many hours do you think you put in from the first practice session to the final successful run?

[@nickd3157]

Are these not only UVMax completions but world records as well? Edit: According to the response this is WR pace runs, on THESE maps? Zeromaster chill out man, what are you trying to prove man?

[@ToxikDeth]

World record

[@stephencharlton9823]

Hey zero master how many tries/hours did you put into this?! Crazy.

[@nazaren45]

👍👍

[@juanchol21]

Nice

[@kurtiskrazi5834]

fresh meat!!!!

[@ModernPotter]

R u using autoaiming?

[@nathanouellet1253]

gg

[@SylvainProov]

Zero Master comfort zone is approx 40% HP :D

[@furnace6441]

can we talk about how this demo has over 230 kills per minute

[@NinjaCacodemon_IsSus]

Wow 8 sec ago

[@newcarpathia9422]

Wanna have some fun? Load up this WAD with the Boompower mod, put on God mode, and watch the silliness. (enemies will explode when they die)

[@szymon6207]

Use fractal Doom !

[@DeadFishFactory]

That arachnotron almost fucked the run.

[@HmmHmm-ve7ou]

Are you going to UV-MAX modern Sunder Maps or not, because of their sheer amount of RNG fights and lenght, and difficulty?

[@phaolo6]

It's funny because I just thought _"It would be cool if you could find a BFG, but maybe it would be too easy.."_ and then Zero Master found it lol. But it didn't look easy 😬

[@jwc4715]

Normal players cannot even try this kind of mission. I will be toasted in ten seconds.

[@matiasdeporai6]

oh shit

[@nelsoncuellar9178]

Me watching Zero Master play this level is like my 5 year old watching me play this level. 🤣

[@bro89174]

This isn't map 7 on doom 2 😂 I have the game

[@jimh4617]

Anyone think they can beat Sunder faster? G-Funk step to this, I dare ya'

[@joyl7842]

This made me dizzy.

[@matispure2]

Guys, it 6k views and 60 comments, if we would all comment then we would have 3980 comments.

[@RomanOrekhov]

Pretty much every piece of damage taken looked unnecessary

[@Aziz.phenomenal]

Hey, we would like to see your failed attempts as well. Not just the successful runs. All successful runs are now getting kinda boring, we need to see you fail too

[@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser]

Sorry but these maps are so stupid. Nothing but running back and forth spamming The BFG just so you can get the 100,000,000 enemies it of your way so you can press more buttons. No shade on zero matter by any means but these maps just suck.

[@ToxikDeth]

Sounds like you have a skill issue

[@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser]

@@ToxikDeth I've never played sunder, not would I, again these are boring. Spam the BFG not strategically but just to get shit out of your way to press the next button

[@ToxikDeth]

@@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser you've never played yet u claim this takes no skill, are u dense are something? If that's the case then do exactly what u just said and see how long u last.

[@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser]

@@ToxikDeth where did I ever say it takes no skill? My descriptors were stupid and boring, and it is. Watching someone go back and forth between rooms spamming the BFG is boring. Like I said not zero masters fault. And yeah I think it's stupid instead of interestingly crafted rooms and strategic placement of demons, it's shove as many demons as the game can handle all over the place. Yeah let's have 2000 revenants and 800 cacodemons and 750 mancubi and 10000 imps. Oh it's still too easy ok well add a group of 500 barons whatever. That's dumb to me. If you don't think so, to each his own I guess.

[@kinetic03]

@@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser this is one of the more meh sunder levels, and I think most can agree with me. Other maps have more interesting combat. On the other hand, there is some crowd management skills regarding movement in this map, so it's not mindlessly running around with bfg spam all the time (just for a good chunk of time). But be careful saying a map like this sucks, you can do so, so much worse than this map. Aesthetics alone make this more impressive and better than 99.5% of maps that have ever been made. Respect the work that's gone into crafting this map, just say it's not for you instead of saying it sucks