DOPE CONVERSATIONS: Lebo Lion & Penson | Marketing | Mihlali & Leeroy | Masculinity vs Feminism

This week I'm joined by co-hosts Lebo Lion & Penson Mlotshwa on Dope Conversations.
Ursula Mariani, Asbo Ofori-Amanfo, Tebogo Keebine & Gomotso Morobe join us from behind the camera.
Topics:
Podcasting vs Thought Leadership
Mihlali Open Letter Video
Choosing to Believe a Gender
Dricus du Plessis
The Racial Funding of Sports
The White Rand vs The Black Rand
Creating Safe Spaces for Genders to Express themselves
Please share your thoughts, comments, suggestions & criticism.
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/ @pensonmlotshwa
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/ @lebolionsa
Follow Ursula Mariani on The Conversation Capital:
/ @theconversationcapital
Talent & Influencer Management - Asbo Ofori-Amanfo: [e-mail]

[@godpenuel]

This week I'm joined by co-hosts Lebo Lion & Penson Mlotshwa on Dope Conversations. Ursula Mariani, Asbo Ofori-Amanfo, Tebogo Keebine & Gomotso Morobe join us from behind the camera. Topics: - Podcasting vs Thought Leadership - Mihlali Open Letter Video - Choosing to Believe a Gender - Dricus du Plessis - The Racial Funding of Sports - The White Rand vs The Black Rand - Creating Safe Spaces for Genders to Express themselves Please share your thoughts, comments, suggestions & criticism. ----------------------------------------------------- Follow Penson Mlotshwa on The Journey: youtube.com/@pensonmlotshwa?si=CXkTqzCVSf9IF1WJ Follow Lebo Lion on Lebo Lion SA: youtube.com/@lebolionsa?si=CLQTlQ-BDRjKOlLJ Follow Ursula Mariani on The Conversation Capital: youtube.com/@theconversationcapital?si=srtV2AFPnk1imtoq Talent & Influencer Management - Asbo Ofori-Amanfo: [e-mail]

[@evertondankuruattorneys2439]

Time stamps please guys. Good show! Keep it coming!

[@yvettelanga5256]

I love this please don’t stop Pen & Pen, Ursula and your guests 👏looking forward to the next one 👏👏👏

[@pensonmlotshwa]

DANKO!!!

[@Mrtdogg101]

I love this new format Pen....stick to it! Pen and Pen is always a breath of fresh air!

[@pensonmlotshwa]

Thank you so much!

[@Mrtdogg101]

@@pensonmlotshwa thank you for your service Sir

[@phumlanindlovu5653]

LEBO LION CAME POTS BLAZING, SHE COOKED!!!!

[@kamphinga]

What a lady Lebo Lion, real definition of beauty with brain. Thanks to my forever ladies Ursula Mariani&Asbo Amanfo. Great one gents.

[@thabomaphalala4352]

I English izobaizisa mfana

[@Zy-gote]

Unfortunately ladies like h£r end up dying alone. They repell men who they're attracted to. Mr Kevin Samuels addressed this numerous times. (Shoutout to the Godfather) RIP

[@ikanengmarungwana7739]

@godpenuel Lebo constantly feels like she is been attacked , The way she speaks and acts shows that she needs healing as she mentioned multiple times that the area she works, men don't see and listen to her, thus the whole time she made it about her. She didn't want her daily life life experience to happen again during the recording. Everyone noticed this and kept quiet, she almost cried while she she speaking. I hope once the recording stopped you guys talked about it. Please note, my observation has nothing to do with her being a woman but its how people who are hurt or have been in her situation behave. Think of short guy been rejected by a woman, this first thing he thinks is "its because am short" and can't think of any other reason, now as his friend you need to be like nah bra, your approach was wrong and the girl is shorter than you. Also @godpenuel you made the whole show about Lebo's personal life experience what she says is right, which is wrong, you should have mentioned its not about her personal life. Not a single person stressed the point that men go through emotional abusive and keep quiet about it, getting physical is mostly the last resort for men, you just touched on it but didn't explain it to the women clearly. Penson, your brother is right in saying women in the room ignored the fact that the guy said he was attacked by a knife, Lebo talked about how brilliant the girl was at showing her scares and not naming anyone thus letting the media to make the guy a villain, she placed herself as the victim in the situation and like Lebo said, the girl is good at marketing. In court, the girl will lose the case cause she attacked a human with a knife and a human defended themselves, case closed. This is similar to the black american actor who literally ran from a white girl that was attacking him and only after the multiple cameras were shown is when people forget about the situation and don't even see the guy as a victim cause if the multiple cameras didn't show the guy literally running through different streets he would be in jail and lost of his career's achievements. In closing, my view is you catered to Lebo, its fine but you guys did more damage than good cause you were not honest with her and your brother noticed it, I noticed Ursula and the guys noticed it. What you guys did wasn't wrong but a learning curve cause 2 hours will not be enough thus I hope you have another session with the same people and do not be afraid to voice your thoughts, yourself, Penson, Asbo, Tebogo Gomotso and the guys behind the camera. the men closed by saying I hear you Lebo..., thus she didn't her anyone. In the 2 hours, Lebo was not listening but speaking for the sake of it. Q: Why did you decide its best to apologize for saying she is alienate a lot of people? time: 1h:24m:45s She clearly doesn't know how to accept being wrong, you were right and you did a disservice to yourself and viewers cause like most women like to do is get emotional and want to cry when a men corrects them or shares a different view. The best outcome would have been her listening to you and understanding why you saying she alienating some people and found a way to voice her view which without alienating people. You can't tell someone to watch what they going to say before you even hear what they going to say, that wrong. Its like saying you guilty before proven innocent and its the innocents burden to prove themselves innocent. The right way is to listen to them and say, I hear you however you could have voiced it in this manner as the room or situation doesn't allow for it be said in the way you said it. I.e teach someone how to read the room, we all have friend who don't know how to read the room. If this is too long, anyways keep pushing boss, am with you guys on this concept of recording, please don't stop. The great things about this people will learn how to navigate conversations with people that don't have the same views as them, I watch a lot of Jorden Peterson and Joe Rogan podcast, they great talking to people they don't agree with.

[@goldlender3739]

Lebo's facial expressions, whenever Penson was speaking, are funny 😂

[@sihlemg]

Vice versa Penson's body language when she was speaking 😂

[@sandzile.sikhondze]

Flabba was killed by his girlfriend.. even though he is a man and was probably stronger than her. No man would be wrong to defend themselves from harm in the face of danger because at that point you don't know how far they will go

[@godpenuel]

@sandzile.sikhondze this is very very true.

[@TebogoNgonyama]

You can tell by the name Lebo Lion not Lioness but Lion...the world of " what a man can do , I can do it too". Yet thrive on victimhood as a survival mechanism ...

[@kingmolele5290]

​@@TebogoNgonyama Only a few people will catch what you said.

[@kholofelomatabane6174]

I agree.Imagine if it was the guy who went to Mihlalis place with a knife.Trust me,it would have been a different story.The guy is a victim here.

[@Zy-gote]

​@@kholofelomatabane6174 Bro, I see the knife. The 75 missed calls, the man would've broken the internet.

[@lindowaves6309]

People should be allowed to to express themselves without censorship, even if their words are offensive or misguided. It is then up to everyone else to correct or teach that person and explain why their words are harmful. The person should then take accountability for their offensive statements and apologise. That’s just my 2 cents

[@thatoernestochimene9982]

Tebza was definitely right on the Mihlali's issue, this wasn't a safe space for men's point of view. What she said was boxing their responses.

[@NkosinathiMasango012]

Exactly, and it's not fair in that only the men need to be careful of what they say, but the women can say it how they see it. Ladies are equally responsible for a toxic relationship as the gents. For Mihlali to be with a married man and expect him to not cheat on her is crazy business.

[@AM-yk1vt]

I disagree. They must take responsibility for allowing her to police their opinions. They are just weak and like to please woman. Nothing was going to happen if he spoke his mind instead he tuck his tail in like a good boy and complained about it instead of saying what he thinks. Mind you she did not hold back all the nonsense she was thinking.

[@katlegomohlabi]

We need more of Lebo Lion 😂

[@Sbongakonke02]

She becomes too emotional sometimes 😂

[@marxsphe2207]

@@Sbongakonke02 Its how females are brother. women are just not built for certain conversations

[@youngtoday7651]

@@Sbongakonke02 you're mistaking passion and knowledge for emotion sadly. Lebo Lion knows her stuff

[@youngtoday7651]

@@Sbongakonke02 the emotional person you're looking for is that Kgomotso in the background

[@Sbongakonke02]

@youngtoday7651 her passion and knowledge allow her to tell others (Penson) that they've low IQ? Wow

[@neoletsie3383]

Its funny how we always let things slide, just to make women feel at ease. i see you pen

[@pensonmlotshwa]

Mic drop

[@thatoernestochimene9982]

He came through for us and I loved every moment of it.

[@dariuskincaid-gc3lp]

@@pensonmlotshwa Commander in Chief yaks. if I'm going to war I know exactly who to come to. LEADERSHIP MLOTSHWA

[@kuhleteady4418]

Lol both Pen and pen 😅 have to force themselves to be disciplined throughout the episode 👌😆 Penson was fuming 😂😂😂 I just concluded we will never find a common ground with this gender 🤦‍♂️ There will forever be clashes... I love Lion too but in this case I understood his perspective but nah nah I was jumping on my bed against her points 😂

[@Elias_Capital]

Lebo Lion is a G bro.... Amazing lady.

[@loapijr]

I would like to know the conversation after the cameras went off

[@Facts_Only_SA]

The best listener is this show is Penson. Ursula is playing safe. Pen only protecting ladies😂😂😂

[@sandzile.sikhondze]

On the point of policing what a man say freely, that is wrong. Men should be allowed to speak freely and then that can be a teachable moment from the female point of view. Let men express themselves, then comment and teach from that so that they can also have a better understanding of the impact of their views on certain issues. Rather than to censor what they think because at the end of the day, them not being able to speak doesn't change that at the end of the day they are men and that's how they think and see things.

[@Daisy.Mohajane]

Love Lebo and Ursula ❤

[@MesuliFolo]

I think we need to appoint uPenson as Secretary yamajita😂😂

[@lindokuhledlangalala9094]

A modern version of Pen & Pen 😅😅🔥🔥

[@pensonmlotshwa]

Yebo yes!

[@Sbongakonke02]

1:16:50 The angle of the camera 🔥

[@Mank_Mindset]

@@Sbongakonke02 did you saw thaat✨💯

[@KimKultxretv]

Penson thank you for representing us well , the girl who is self centered and thinks her view is above everyone else's and everybody must fall to her tune must wake up from her deluded state of mind

[@CornerHouse_Media]

Please allow me to say this @pen ,I think here you have found your sweet spot ,this is really the best format you have ever come given us ,it is still packed with education ,and it accentuates your great qualities that we all love about you fam , and it allows all of us to just enjoy you and even wish you all the best and more for this ..compared to the others that tend to devide us or put you in a very bad light as far as some of us are concerned,I know you prolly don’t really care what we feel or think of you ,but please my G ,this right here is diamond …just info .

[@godpenuel]

Lebo must explain what I was doing in her DMs... hayi... we can't leave this hanging... hayi.

[@jeisonkunene6376]

mara ntwana🤣🤣.........lowkey

[@babygirlntando]

I wish Penuel and Penson were my uncles 😂I love them sm ❤

[@thabomaphalala4352]

If you have an uncle he probably thinks like them

[@JankiSofe-m9u]

Lebo lion has alot to offer to this country,I hope she speaks more and infect more minds around her as possible.Shout out Penzo and family

[@bonginkosimunyai1153]

Pen (older) and Pen(younger) are our brothers to us who dont have biological brothers.dope conversation indeed

[@pensonmlotshwa]

We appreciate you Bonginkosi 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@mikesishi8471]

😊 I am Penson throughout this whole conversation, Lebo is sooo wrong but soo confident 🫣

[@njabulondaba152]

😂😂noticed that

[@unathimashalaba1103]

🤣🤣🤣 his body language, I’m in stitches

[@Mank_Mindset]

😅❤Peneul my man I salute you, you are good at distributing & allocating time particularly under pressure when majority of guests are so intelligence 🎉

[@Mank_Mindset]

😂😂😂My man!! Penson is hitting hard! "nina zidudla" yeses! Peneul try to bring him back unfortunately he failed 😂

[@Fyzician280]

Pen i love the pivot(Dope Conversation), man you are bringing it. It’s also great to see Ursula letting her hair down. Power to the God, Pen

[@mihlaligora2919]

Does uLebo realize that literally anything can alienate somebody? Even her being such a "great communicator" can in itself be alienating to someone. @godpenuel, you folded laphaya

[@Sbongakonke02]

2:36 Penuel to Penson😂😂 brotherhood relationship. I love you guys

[@lihlemnyaka]

Dope dope dope 👌🏾 ❤

[@mthokozisimyende787]

This really was a DOPE CONVERSATION! We need a Part 2

[@leratontanzi2607]

Lebo's calm spirit is so refreshing, it doesn't help that she is pretty too

[@Facts_Only_SA]

Calm spirit 😅😅

[@SLKZ-x1q]

@@Facts_Only_SA 😂😂 I'm laughing with you because I know underneath she was anything but calm.

[@chilz10]

This conversation with its slight chaos actually mirrored our normal conversations on a day to day basis. I enjoyed the back and forth.

[@Lizwi8476]

We need round 2, please! I enjoyed how Penuel explained and simplified things, and props to Lebo Lion for a fresh outlook.

[@epistemicpolymath6813]

Dope 2 hours👌🏼after a fire start with Ursh and Lebo, could we also try have: 1 Mmabatho Montsho 2. Lebohang Pheko 3. Tessa Dooms Danko!

[@nduduzoxaba8043]

Penson is a real G 🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@Kat-A-Pilla]

45 minutes in and I'm hooked. Lebo is very beautiful ❤

[@jeisonkunene6376]

Pen you are onto something with this format

[@m18m40]

I hate this abuse topic because when I speak about my abuse and how I moletsered as a man by a woman I just need to shut up swallow it up there’s no room for me to say woman are abusive too

[@Seraga-raga]

In future let the guests bring note books to keep track of their train of thought. Just a suggestion. Interesting coversation.

[@crystalsounds9542]

Lebo was valid on the business side, but in societal conversations, she spoke like a marketer; Shock Value, being politically correct, etc. and that's how money in marketing is made; to establish new trends and prey on just how shallow thinking most people are. In these times, Confusion & Attention = Profit. also, she was very hypocritical in the alienating thing. She literally marginalized the guy's opinion because she is an accredited marketer. She said "I can't be called an alienator", and then proceeded to alienate someone else's stance. She should stick to marketing authoritatively, and then come down to everyone's level in societal conversations.

[@laudanthabi7745]

Penual you guys failed to talk about Shivhambo and I was really looking forward to hear what you guys were gonna say

[@godpenuel]

Yeah... we stayed on some of the other topics for too long.

[@BuntuXaki-u2w]

Will be waiting ​@@godpenuel

[@African1313]

Women can very very abusive but these things barely come to light, I've in a relationship whereby a woman did things that if I did those, I would be in deep trouble today...women are very much privileged but they act as if they're not Women say anything about men but they will never be cancelled shamed but a man can never say anything with regards to how really women arè

[@kjj9568]

Penson spitting straight facts! ✊🏾. These days people are too emotional smh

[@DaSean-m]

This was a DOPE sit down, actually got a bit frustrated when Ya'll are speaking over each other, but then realized there's no manual for a DOPE CONVERSATION😄. I think for the sake of audio for the viewers you guys should actually work out something to short out the "Speaking over each other" situation because not everyone is gonna listen/think like me. Otherwise the sit down was dope🙌🏾. Like Penual always say "Be a critical thinker" and I think ya'll brought that factor!

[@mthokozisimyende787]

Lol, this is giving Parliament Vibes😆😆

[@godpenuel]

@@mthokozisimyende787 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

[@tebogo743]

With order, Pen did a great job at moderating

[@vuyokazimakhosi8093]

Just when I thought Ursula Mariani, there comes Lebo with so much wisdom ❤ Love the 2 ladies

[@mdumisenipakathi995]

Here i am bussy laughing when everyone wants to be listened to but failing to listen..this is soo beautiful, thanks Pen for driving this beautiful bus for us...❤

[@Kevin-dn5fh]

Salute to Penson, the main logically person in the room... sis Lebo started off well in the beginning but her biased start creeping in more and more, and logic went out the window.

[@thulanigwala1404]

@GodPen, I love this format, my brother. Please keep them episodes coming. Currently, your co-hosts seem more like guests. If they are your co-hosts please give them more power to express themselves so they will feel more at home. I am saying this because I know that you are still trying out this new format. I am glad Tebza is part of it as well. Much love! uSisLebo mustn't sensor the gents, this is not TV. The mood and the atmosphere changed after that comment and it never recovered after that. The reason sila sibalekile ku SABC ingoba sifuna iqiniso njengoba linjalo, as hurtful as it might be.

[@godpenuel]

@@thulanigwala1404 thank you for your thoughts and the constructive criticism 🙏🏽

[@Misslalagirl]

Thank you. The girl was dumbing down the conversation. We love raw conversations. If you are soft don't join the conversation, its not for you.

[@jeisonkunene6376]

The panel here is of the smart kids in the grade at high school🤣🤣🤣

[@queennonkosithetruthshowaf8723]

i was so proud of Penuel on this episode!

[@sihlemg]

Mister Speaker was doing the things!🎉

[@victorsoul7174]

Nkululeko Nkewu would add more value to this chat. Pls consider inviting him I like ths new set up, keep it rolling 🙏❤️

[@VoiceOfReason579]

I found gold with this podcast

[@masilomoshesh1475]

Penuel did a good job moderating the debates and provided the necessary pushbacks towards everyone.

[@ursulamariani8245]

@@masilomoshesh1475 I agree with this. It wasn’t easy to remain neutral 😂

[@levimisengapoetry]

17:06 thats the part i am obsessed with. I think i just love the sound of my voice and i am not ashamed to put it out

[@vusmuzimasilela2358]

Person I feel you 😂😂😂 she pissed you off kakhulu and kudos for keeping ur composure.

[@jeisonkunene6376]

We need more these round-table episodes

[@Mank_Mindset]

😂Yeses! Inkinga yabantu abahlakaniphile uma behlanganiswe kudaleka ikheyosi!

[@Mank_Mindset]

😂Tebza... "no we have!" Things were happening man! 🎉 Nice show indeed but I would have loved it more if it was allowed to move further without time limitations.

[@tefomolawa7950]

Love this format

[@ditiloshupinyaneng9362]

Lebo-Lion is descending on the conversation that everyone is equal of knowledge(her lens standard)…privileged in information…don’t=is not a great way to reshape especially when the audience don’t see what it looks like…teachers may have the function of educating so the student can develop their sense of options to develop socially but police who enforce don’t-s of the law(thou shall not…x) but imposes rules as you determine…but emotional helmets ⛑️ are needed for honest conversation that are charged…allowing that expression…refines…those that are not strong enough have to be led by the strong & superior in wisdom…when the world is not safe…we can’t be nice & honest @ the same time but we can be kind & honest 🤞🏾

[@jeisonkunene6376]

The problem with having this much clever people in one room - everyone wants to say something🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@victorsoul7174]

Lol infact everyone has something to say

[@Thatotherguy803]

One of my top episodes

[@itumelengnkonyane3717]

I like this segment but Penuel please share your opinions too

[@Facts_Only_SA]

LEBO LION is smart and articulate, but she needs to learn 1 thing. To listen to other human being… otherwise she will be just another Nota and Mandisa Mashego.

[@adolfmudau9956]

we cant hear proper points because you are shouting a lot and interference that is not necessary

[@LethaboMatseke]

Lebo is right about marketing (black rand vs white rand). There's more people in the villages and townships and they buy data daily but telecommunication companies are not bothering with improving the infrastructure there.

[@Twinkle_Lethula]

Lebo needs to come back and please allow Penson to talk man, i think women where represented good with Lebo because man where told to keep quiet...o please next man have to be represented

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

37:51 funny that. I had this same conversation with a Westerner. Had to pull the mirror on him to show him how he was looking at the Afrikan lived experience with a Western-White lens.

[@zwaynewellington3968]

Pen, KZbin allows creators to apload even 5 hours of video in one go so I would like to understand what the issue is with time cause you never seem to have enough of it. Now there's topics you couldn't even cover. You did mention Penson had to be somewhere but he seemed willing to talk some more. We can literally watch 10 hours of this without a problem. Anyhow, thanks for Dope conversations.

[@q.7628]

Thanks!

[@q.7628]

You guys mentioned Dineo R on the show and it got me thinking of so many things/topics!! Cela nimbize tu otherwise yimali ye wings for uNtsiki Mazwai leyo. Please feed the queen when she is there. Thanks for the dope conversations!! ❤

[@godpenuel]

😂😂😂 Thank you so much, Q... you're appreciated 🙏🏽

[@kylelangton2718]

This woman is a bullshiter

[@mzansifootball585]

Lebo Lion is giving: Marketing 101. I Love it...❤

[@Mank_Mindset]

@@mzansifootball585 she knows what she talking about ✨🖤

[@hlanganisambatha614]

100%

[@JustFrago]

This episode was challenging to watch. A lot of viewpoints were disregarded, leading to censorship and gaslighting. It felt similar to a Black Twitter thread. We can disagree on things - that is fine. But we don't have to be so hostile to different opinions and expect others to take yours as the truth

[@vusmuzimasilela2358]

I will say this again Penson was pissed with most of Lebos opinions and i understand why. His face said it all he wanted to cough out a lot but he decided to keep it to himself (red the room) Kudos my brother 👏

[@josephruzendo2245]

My favorite podcaster 🔥🔥🔥

[@Live_More_Love_More]

As a woman I find it painful that men are not given a safe space to express themselves, hear them out and correct them(this also gives women an idea that they are always right). Accountability from women?, what do you mean we can’t talk about a knife in a GBV case, because a man is strong. We went from being marginalised to bullying men,innocent men sometimes. We also love to be emotional, Leeroy is an abuser but not in jail, the victim is making a dramatic video for KZbin let’s be serious.

[@hlanganisambatha614]

Tebza must just relax and not speak. Lebo Lion knows her stuff and very knowledgeable...her views on marketing is spot on. That's the reality in marketing and advertising in the corporate world. She's passionate...

[@ntethilove-joykhawuleza8626]

What a great representation of the different mindsets we have in our societies❤. There are those who have been exposed to the possibilities and can see what is already unfolding, and there those who do not want change or possibily prefer going backwards in order to move forward. Then there are those who remain in the middle because they are trying to understand the consequences of each direction. Indeed change is inevitable and nothing is new under the sun.

[@SiyaDube]

My take from this podcast is that we need to learn to understand each other and listen to each other's stories. Thank you for a Dope conversation ladies and gents! ✊✊✊

[@ZothaniMaduna]

Cudos to Lebo, her mental and emotional maturity/prowess is on another level. Syabonga kuye!

[@marxsphe2207]

And here's the thing with debating with women, Feelings are and will always be an important aspect to them really. You hear how uSis Lebo says men aren't cautious and they'll sometimes say things that might offend her(paraphrasing). the truth is you will never understand everyone and not everyone will understand you. different lives, different life experiences, different life exposures make up who you are and how you perceive things. You're not meant to walkout of every conversation feeling positive and optimistic. I appreciate our sisters but as far as breaking certain issues that are still prevalent in our society, most of which are a huge factor, they are not doing justice, women can think but are not as thorough as men are and that's because of the emotions that get in the way during conversations

[@Eruminlampodcast]

Love the show even when things went too deep

[@botlebybotle2253]

I enjoyed this episode as it is a true reflection of how these conversations go. Another episode is in order. Penuel you tried to restore order 😅

[@KatlieMoutloane]

This was a fire episode 🔥. Lebo, Penson, Penuel and Ursula including the other gents in the background loved every voice. Keep them coming.

[@leloodyssey]

It’s actually disturbing that no one mentioned that Mihlali has a history of violently attacking men, she beat up Musa Khawula and bragged about it. It’s also okay for men to express themselves freely so that we are able to correct them if their sentiments are problematic instead of stopping them before they say anything only for them to have these conversations in private and never being corrected. I think it was very unfortunate that Lebo stopped the conversation in its tracks

[@vincentmacamo6301]

its crazy how truth is exposed yet certain people still chose to say "NO". A human tells you why we different yet you say "NO" thats just way too much

[@gachukimathi1070]

Well done guys with the set. It made sense. I enjoyed the classroom reasoning session👍🏿💜

[@OkeamuteIdolorUnscripted]

So much of what Lebo Lion said rubbed me the wrong way, and I am someone who is capable of appreciating where she is coming from. Many men are not! She is alienating many "good" men who are trying to take a balanced approach to these topics & speak to both sides. I think her past experiences might be why she is so insistent on her opinion being right. But that isn’t reality. We need to learn how to communicate in a real-world context, not in controlled environments where no one is allowed to offend or disagree. Many men feel censored when sharing their opinions, which is why we see the rise of figures like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. Penson talks about this a lot on his channel, that in trying to correct past injustices we might just be flipping the script not re-writing it. We need to elevate our level of communication so that well-rounded gents can express what the general population of men might be feeling, get feedback from women, and understand how they can improve their group of friends. Forcing men to change their opinions will only make them defensive and less likely to listen, lets be honest. I didn't enjoy Tebogo being censored, the guy just wanted to give his take!😅 I appreciate her being on the show. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed her sharing and probably will in the future. It’s valuable exposure to different perspectives. Thanks, Pen!

[@godpenuel]

Truly appreciate your contribution... both monetary and your commentary. You're greatly appreciated and I agree with you.

[@tebogo743]

Bro are you a chef cause damn🔥

[@OkeamuteIdolorUnscripted]

@@tebogo743 🙏🏽appreciate it, I just want us to focus more on how we can meet eachother halfway.

[@zinhlezwane8353]

My faves in one episode

[@pensonmlotshwa]

Love it!

[@thabangsekobane428]

This was very interesting and Informative Thank You Once Again God Pen Need more of this please🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@teekaymedia7860]

Haaa bafe2, we need Ursula on screen😅, just for control, ngikhulumela wonke amagents!!😌

[@NgcangcaSiya]

Lebo Lion is smart and has made a lot of valid points - I like her more

[@SiyaDube]

Lebo Lion dropping booms like Hiroshima! 💥💥💥💥💥

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

0:38 l can tell a Ghanaian name.🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭 This one, is our Mother. 🫶🏾🇿🇼 If you know, you know.

[@ursulamariani8245]

❤

[@Mank_Mindset]

Penuel: "Penson where are you from?" Penson: "Mina ngisuka emadadeni" my man😂😂❤

[@mahlodihonoko5380]

Lebo is so classy and intelligent ❤ I also love Ursula❤