Doppelganger by Naomi Klein

[@lafeete98]

What an incredible book, Naomi has detailed what ails our society in a most ingenious way, and it took a Doppelgänger to allow her to peer thru the looking glass.

[@chasingdownchano]

I love the use of deforum and AI animation in this video. It deserves more views. It's well crafted. I wish someone had put more effort into the thumbnail and title, because this could have blown up and given Naomi much more sales.

[@ajordan26able]

Bizarre and unhinged! I feel embarrassed for Klein. If sanity ever returns to her paranoid mind, she may wish she'd never written it. It's going to be hard to live it down.

[@realitia]

Not at all. I am reading it right now and am grateful for her clear, insightful and precise analysis and commentary on our socio-political ills at this time. What do you think is unhinged about it?

[@davidbrock2871]

This together with the Guardian article rings all too true; and is deeply disturbing. I've lost good friends and family to this Mirror World; have no real idea how it happened; and feel powerless to get them back. Another aspect of this is the subtle intrusion of technology into our daily lives, taking our attention away from the real world into one increasingly created by AI. Worryingly, I can't see a solution.

[@AndreaDHoran]

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[@Just4Growers]

Before you lament any further about how 'powerless' you feel to bring those with differing political opinions to your own back into alignment, please learn how to use semicolons correctly so that you can condescend to them more convincingly.

[@KristofferYiFredriksson]

Which Guardian article?

[@davidbrock2871]

@@KristofferYiFredriksson It was from the Guardian of August 26th , Naomi Klein on following her doppelganger Naomi Wolf and conspiracy theories.

[@nova4005]

BOTH SIDES of this mirror are manipulated reality. People need to realize that, and see how their side of the mirror is being manipulated by algorithms, AI and divisive tactics. The people who are confident that "their side couldn't be the one being manipulated" are the most dangerous for our country. Ignorant, confident people will allow horrific things to be done around them, because they are confident that they are right, good and just. Their confidence blinds them. I look forward to reading more about this book, but I hope to find that Naomi Klein has looked in her own mirror and has recognized how what she believes and values has also been manipulated by media. When you truly recognize there is very little you can know for sure in this world, it humbles you, and opens you to your fellow people on this Earth. THAT is what is needed as our systems collapse.

[@AngelaWildman-ep6qu]

I’ve been having nightmares about the mirror world for several years now 🙀

[@shardanette1]

This is wild. I have my own Doppelganger. The only other person in America with my name is the opposite of me in many ways, which they live out on social media. It is pretty wild to see, and I've thought about this issue since discovering this.

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

Yes Shardanette but you have a very unique name. Naomi is common name

[@teribowles6079]

.....@ThisWeekInFascism. Are you trashing Naomi Wolf? Your doppelganger?!? You two have the same first name. That's about it. Naomi Wolf continues down the rabbit hole where you took the cash. What you're doing here, creating division, is exactly the thing you claim to be criticizing. Or am I mistaken? Because as a former democrat, liberal, Sanders supporter , I don't recognize YOU anymore, Naomi Klein. You have changed, not the world. How the Left has fallen. Christ.

[@chicklets4ever51]

Bingo. Perfect reflection of my own feelings. From Shock Doctrine to Schlock Doctrine, No Logo to New Logo: Pfizer.

[@Ljblossom]

It is crap by someone who has lost her sense of reason. She has lost all credibility,

[@dhollsynthmusic]

My post isn't getting through. Testing....

[@dhollsynthmusic]

Personally I never got the two Naomis mixed up, always considered Klein the more intellectual analytical 'Big Idea Thinker' and Wolf more broad-strokes-style emotive reactive reasoning. And yet...

[@dhollsynthmusic]

what I didn't see in Klein's Guardian piece today was any analysis of the aggressive vaccine-push, what that meant for society at the time and going forward. All I saw was assumptions that 'anti-vaccine = rightwing-conspiracy-nut'...disappointingly limited thinking.

[@dhollsynthmusic]

Wolf has taken that on, albeit with plainly incorrect too-fantastical takes.

[@dhollsynthmusic]

It's a profoundly-important subject that we all need to dispassionately analyse...and judge.

[@dhollsynthmusic]

I'd like Klein to look into that topic specifically (and less about Wolf herself) if she wishes to understand the Big Picture.

[@themovingkitchen5238]

People in the comments should really read the book before judging.

[@drewmt]

This comments section could be a chapter in the book.

[@elgajd]

wow! this saddened me, klein. how far have you fallen from acuity and perspicuity into your own version of a doppleganger. my question to you is, how do you know that you aren't in fact the doppelganger?

[@chicklets4ever51]

Excellent question! Wolf is true to her ideals. Klein cares mostly about fame.

[@End_Zionism]

You should read the book because she asks herself that exact question. The book isn’t about Wolf, that’s just the intro.

[@End_Zionism]

@@chicklets4ever51if that were the case Klein would’ve used her market knowledge to become a millionaire instead of expose the corporations with No Logo. This book isn’t about Wolf, she sympathizes with Wolf, that’s just the introduction to how she discovered doppelgängers.

[@realitia]

@@chicklets4ever51 That's not actually true. Wolf has totally changed her tune in the last few years. It is well-documented in Klein's book; have you read it?

[@mrightrishna]

I am looking forward to Klein's book. This video and the guardian article did give me a lot of food for thought. I feel like I'm afflicted by a certain kind of political delirium. It's an unnerving ungrounding of our social and political selves that is experienced by people across the ideological spectrum. And while many continental philosophers like the thinkers from the Frankfurt School or the French post structuralists, tried to make sense of this predicament and almost accurately diagnosed it as a symptom of late stage capitalism. The pandemic has undoubtedly exacerbated this feeling of delirium at least for people like me. I hope Klien's work gives us some clarity in these confusing times. If i could share my two cents, I think the tone of this video and her essay in the Guardian reeks of the same Paranoia that it attempts to critique. The truth is that both the Noami's are produced by the same discourse. They are a product of this kind of political and social thinking that is exhausted by simplistic opposition's between conservatives and progressives , republicans and democrats etc. Klein's pov does throw light on the right wing ecosystem and how it becomes a breeding ground for misinformation and conspiracy theories. But we must not forget that the far left has also been responsible for fanning mass hysteria in the society garbed under progressive, anti racist, anti colonial, anti capitalism rhetorics. While it is true that the right wing and conservatives on the whole have done great harm by spreading misinformation but the left is guilty of riding a moral high horse and creating deafening echo chambers. There's a way in which we as a society are benumbed by the rush and validation offered by social media and sometime this very simple logic of reward and instant gratification does undergrid the more complex social/ political phenomenon . But this Social-dilemma kind of analysis has yeilded nothing more than a diagnosis. Where does one go with this information?

[@peterhooper3391]

Great false equivalence, there!

[@llh3025]

I agree on some of your points but one important thing to point out is the labels "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories" are scary labels being used to justify censorship online. The answer to bad information is _more_ information, not less. Let the reader beware.

[@peterappleby1628]

One needs to read 'The Treason of the Experts' by Thomas Harrington which gives insight into which Naomi was largely right about the events of the last few years and which was in the pocket of big business.

[@dhollsynthmusic]

Personally I never got the two Naomis mixed up, always considered Klein the more intellectual analytical 'Big Idea Thinker' and Wolf more broad-strokes-style emotive reactive reasoning. And yet... ...what I didn't see in Klein's Guardian piece today was any analysis of the aggressive vaccine-push, what that meant for society at the time and going forward. All I saw was assumptions that 'anti-vaccine = rightwing-conspiracy-nut'...disappointingly limited thinking. Wolf has taken that on, albeit with plainly incorrect too-fantastical takes. But there really was an aggressive societal push for a largely in-effektiv* vack-scene* to treat a largely-harmless vyrus* (if limiting our analysis to the relatively-healthy pre-pension-age masses, who were nonetheless aggressively pushed to take the jab on false pretenses that it limited spread). It's a profoundly-important subject that we all need to dispassionately analyse...and judge. I'd like Klein to look into that topic specifically (and less about Wolf herself) if she wishes to understand the Big Picture. *intentional misspellings to bypass automatic comment-removal bots.

[@aaronnwebber9677]

Perhaps you should examine your priors? What are you assuming and what are you taking from trusted sources that may not be accurate. This can happen to anyone, so please don't take it as an attack. I want to push back on the "largely harmless" language that you obscured to avoid censorship. There was a lot of people that died, and have continued to die despite the vaccine. There were relatively healthy ppl that died, but you're right, a lot already had some sort of condition. But literally most people, especially increasing in age do! Besides, you cant tell somebody's blood pressure or cholesterol level just by looking... your best friends could also be as unhealthy as those with dreaded ""co-morbidities."" It's notable when life expectancy drops, regardless of cause. SOMETHING is happening, and sure we can debate around the edges, I don't have a medical degree or anything, so my opinion is just as good as yours. Where I came down on this was that the vaccine isn't good enough, rather than the virus isn't harmful. You seem really thoughtful so I'm curious how you got there.

[@llh3025]

@@aaronnwebber9677 Let me give you some good advice I recently read on the internet: What are you assuming and what are you taking from trusted sources may not be accurate. This can happen to anyone, so please don't take it as an attack.

[@truthoverlies1820]

Zzz what a load of bs

[@wildbeanz]

"Did I hit all of the talking points, Albert Bourla?"

[@dnscps]

please, let the video be subtitled into other languages! I would love to share it to students and friends in Portuguese

[@lizflurquartz4189]

A lot of comic book movies now include copies from other dimensions (often played by actors who previously had the roles). Rick and Morty take it to an extreme.

[@peterhooper3391]

What’s real? Go outside. If you are in the majority of global cities, you’ll experience an urban or suburban hellscaoe. Maybe you can get to work to change that. If you are one of an increasingly minority, you’ll experience a wealth of delightful, non-mediated visual, auditory, olfactory and physical sensation. Maybe you ought to get to work protecting that.

[@BrettHeth]

She’s still inspiring after two and a half decades, isn’t she? I interviewed her by phone for my first ever article (in late 1999 I think) and she was as generous and kind with me as anyone could be. I’ve never forgotten that. The book was her brilliant first one, No Logo. She did an open meeting a few years ago with Barcelona’s then left mayoress and I couldn’t even get in. The line was down the street and around the block…in the freezing cold!

[@angelawildman122]

This doubling of our world really creeps me out 🙀 Really don’t want computers and AI to end up replacing real people and animals!

[@amiran5273]

The self righteousness is hard to bare... Even once you saw the parallels, the mirror world, you are not able to find a single fault on your side? That's not how symmetry works. This mindless polarisation leads to dumbing down of everything, on both sides, and conflict only increases.

[@SimonLilburn]

you read a book that isn't released yet?

[@amiran5273]

@@SimonLilburn I'm commenting on the video.

[@SimonLilburn]

@@amiran5273 sorry, I should have said, "you're responding to an argument set forth in a book that isn't out yet?"

[@llh3025]

@@amiran5273 Well said.

[@amiran5273]

@@SimonLilburn the video speaks for itself.

[@lorenekeitch155]

I can't wait for the book; have my pre-order waiting.

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

Happy reading I guess Might I suggest the bodies of others by naomi wolf

[@lphelmar744]

I read the whole piece despite it being very one note because I kept thinking that there was going to be a punchline. I thought Klein would have to have some sort of real introspection. It's the crushing certainty of the mainstream media elite that is so offputting and will be their downfall. You are so convinced you are right, you will not entertain any other perspective.

[@peterhooper3391]

“You are so convinced you are right…” they said to the mirror.

[@nova4005]

Exactly. Both sides of this mirror world are being manipulated by technology, AI and divisive tactics. Those who recognize this and our humble in the face of it will be the ones fighting fascist movements. There is actually very little we can know for sure in this world. Media gives one slice, one version of anything happening. People take this slice and extrapolate it to whole groups of people, and to things going on in the world. No matter what side of "the mirror" you find yourself on, you need to be self-reflective, assume you're being manipulated, find ways to bridge differences, and know that you're real life is offline. Most of us are not fighting with people regularly and are real life, but media makes it seem like we are. I look forward to reading more about this book, but I have the same fear that you expressed lphelmar744; that Naomi doesn't have the ability to reflect on how she's been manipulated, and how she might be stereotyping whole groups of people. It's not good if she's contributing to the divisiveness that technology is already sewing.

[@End_Zionism]

You didn’t read it 😂 because you would’ve realized only the introduction is about Wolf being her doppelgänger and then she moves on to write about completely different topics. She’s not an elite, Wolf is far wealthier and more famous than Klein.

[@KlausBahnhof]

After enduring a lot of meaningless pontification and distracting graphics, the only thing I learned here is that Klein is a self-confessed stalker, and that she has gone so far as to write an entire book about a woman with whom she merely shares the same first name. I don't agree with some of Wolf's opinions, but she has vastly more honesty and integrity than Klein, who comes across as a manipulative grifter towards an increasingly cult-like liberal audience. Klein is shamelessly throwing another woman under the bus while also cashing in on that woman's hard-earned status as a writer and anti-establishment figure. Does Klein still claim to be a feminist? If so, how does she justify attacking another woman in such a blatant attempt at self-promotion? This kind of conduct is, frankly speaking, repulsive.

[@Alexisatlarge]

I've read this book. What I realised when I was reading it, is that in contrast to her previous books, she has done absolutely no research whatsoever. She focuses on the writings of Naomi Wolf, but she has made absolutely no attempt whatsoever to look at the evidence and arguments presented by scientists and doctors opposed to the COVID narrative - I very much doubt if she knows what they are. Absolutely zero. Nada. Nothing. Why she thinks this is ok I haven't a clue.

[@End_Zionism]

Barely any of the book has to do with Covid or Naomi Wolf so I don’t think you’ve actually read it. That’s only the opening to introduce the concept of doppelgängers.

[@davidvaillancourt5111]

Her tweets included some eyebrow-raising claims, like vaccines being a “software platform that can receive uploads” she suggested that the urine and feces of vaccinated individuals needed to be separated from general sewage supplies while tests were done to measure its impact on non-vaccinated people through drinking water. There is nothing to look into these claims lol she mention these claims in the book there is just nothing more to do with these than to laugh at it.

[@realitia]

She did a ton of research. Look at the back of the book; there are 28 pages of references and citations! I'm not sure you actually have read the book. It is not about COVID. She does not "focus" on the writings of Wolf.

[@green_dog8960]

A modest suggestion to Naomi Klein: please investigate the role of pseudouridine in the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA products and compare what you find to what you have been told. Your answers can be found there.

[@End_Zionism]

What you’re not realizing is that Klein IS hard on these drug companies and always has been. That’s why Wolf I her doppelgänger. The book isn’t about Wolf or proving her wrong, it’s deeper than that. It’s how we have doppelgängers of ourselves in the world. Both women are hard on big pharma, big tech, corps, gov, but they have different analyses. Read the book before you form an opinion.

[@SomeBizarretaSomeBizzareLabel0]

[@MitchellPorter2025]

From Naomi [Klein] to Naomi [Wolf], there are none like Naomi [Wu] This is the new Barbenheimer

[@MichaelShawcross]

Wasn't there a book written about Naomi called, "Who's Afraid of Naomi Klein?"

[@richardlane5498]

Posting this from one facet of the mirror world...of A.I.

[@End_Zionism]

It’s really humiliating how many people in this comments section perfectly demonstrate the world Naomi is talking about in the introduction to doppelgänger. None of these people have read the book yet pretend as though they have while proving they haven’t. The book isn’t about Wolf or covid, that’s only the intro. It’s called doppelgänger because both women are hard on big pharma, big tech, gov, etc. but with very different analyses. Read the book before you talk about it because those of us who have read it can immediately tell when you’re lying and then you make yourself look like a complete idiot.

[@randstahl4869]

Here seen is a captivating video performance of visual art delivering a message indistinguishable from its media. Video production craft displayed here is art. Thanks for the visual experience.

[@deletist_]

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@tristankiener2338]

Wow, I chucked my Chomsky books, excepting Manufacturing Consent, after he summarily dismissed anything related to ruling class false flag psyops. I knew NK followed in his footsteps and became an A class Covidian but this personal attack on NW is the tops, I now can't bear to see Shock Doctrine on my shelf. She wrote the book but can't see it punching her in the face.

[@fredgarvinMP]

Very true.

[@mattstiglic]

The sad part is most of what Klein espouses is in fact the simulation, not anything resembling truth.

[@irishfruitandberries9059]

Lots of broad analogous generalisations, sounds like a lot of nonsense

[@clairecohen1249]

wooooow I love this and personally love Naomi Klein & think she is brilliant

[@llh3025]

She used to be brilliant. The thrill is gone.

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

​@@llh3025bless u

[@aliensystem1528]

This video is a perfect example of gaslighting

[@nineteenthly]

Could you say more? I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing, just want to know more about what you mean.

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

​@nineteenthly it's gaslighting because Naomi Wolf is like whoa something Is really radically off with our covid response. And here comes this other naomi and says no covid policy is just same ol same ol so its gaslighting because gaslighting is you deny reality Klein is a Gaslighter extraordinaire because she says covid was not a total break with business as usual. KLEIN SAYS covid was business as usual. Contrary to what we all lived thru. No It wasnt

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

Amen

[@bryc528]

???

[@nineteenthly]

@@bryc528 okay, I'm just going to say this (not directed at you but about the OP): I think that comment meant that Klein's book is a double-bluff. Judging by the Guardian article, her view seemed quite on-point and extremely relevant to many people's personal lives. I'd really have liked that comment not to have just been dropped and moved on from, but it seems unlikely there's going to be a conversation about it, sadly.

[@GymMusic-xq4nu]

Can anyone explain artificial intelligence to me?

[@fredgarvinMP]

Non-human logic and decision making performed by computers. It poses some problems for regular folks and different problems for elites.

[@atthebijou8209]

unwatchable. is this made for children? and that's unfair to children.

[@ThisWeekInFascism]

Are you trashing Naomi Wolf? Your doppelganger?!? You two have the same first name. That's about it. Naomi Wolf continues down the rabbit hole where you took the cash. What you're doing here, creating division, is exactly the thing you claim to be criticizing. Or am I mistaken? Because as a former democrat, liberal, Sanders supporter , I don't recognize YOU anymore, Naomi Klein. You have changed, not the world. How the Left has fallen. Christ.

[@peterhooper3391]

I’m sure you think you know what you are talking about, but I don’t know what you are talking about. What are you talking about?

[@llh3025]

@@peterhooper3391 Naomi Klein used to be on the right side of history. Clear enough?

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

Amen. Thank u

[@phasespace4700]

@ThisWeekInFascism I suppose even a Sanders supporter can have completely psychotic, anti-science notions about infectious diseases and vaccines. Please take an oath of silence.

[@fredgarvinMP]

@@phasespace4700 Always want to silence your opposition...

[@RoscoeRossi-fo1zk]

Just no honey.