Leagues 5 Raging Reveals #3 - Echo Items and Bosses!

[@ScriticRS]

What a day for the Leagues 5 gang

[@doubleshine]

Now i'm convinced you had me guess all those echo rewards just to laugh at how wrong I was

[@hem9483]

loved the reveal vid! glad that rs content creators are really doing quality work with the oldschool team for these types of announcements. makes the community feel even more involved. hearing from the jmods is great, but it feels different to have "one of us" spill the secrets directly

[@LJanosik127]

@@doubleshinehe’s grinning thru his teeth just thinking, “HAHAHA IDIOT!”

[@awildbrownie5684]

This got me scrambling to reconsider region choices

[@joshholmes1372]

​@@doubleshinedefinitely

[@GregBroDudeMan]

I watched the reveal video today and immediately thought "I can't wait for doubleshine's video"

[@supertop764]

what a surprise dude i love your videos

[@Ztaticify]

Another benefit of the Zeah salamander is you get it so much eariler than any of the other echo drops. Going through the midgame with a superpowered omniweapon is an insane timesave and will probably singlehandedly get you to the end game

[@mennoglas]

Let we hope the attacks are strong

[@jawstrock2215]

And remove the worry to find non endgame weaponry for all 3 style too. Too often there is 1 style that is horrible.. But so far, I keep hearing people not picking a raid region at all with all these echo drop so.. what are they planning to kill with them then? hmmmm

[@geoffreywerth6060]

Don't forget you will also be able to run head while killing the melee hand with this. Gonna really minimize damage taken and mean less team burns and whatnot!

[@MattiasCL]

Sustaining the nature runes are going to be hard though.

[@jawstrock2215]

@@MattiasCL we have natuer altar in karamja, + the shortcut to it

[@brianjohnson1290]

I hope you are a having a great time making these vids because we appreciate them so much! Keep it up we are all behind you!!

[@DutchGuyX]

Fremmenik and the desert go really well together. Getting the blowpipe together with the busted jewelry is gonna be insane. 60 accuracy and 30 ranged strength is amazing on the blowpipe.

[@flake8382]

This is my thinking. Desert was already a pick but now it's a hard yes. Fremmy was on my maybe list but it might have just secured the spot. The combo is going to be wicked!

[@joshholmes1372]

That blowpipe will outdps tbow I think

[@L1ttlepace]

Alongside the full masori... oh yeah ranged going hard this league.

[@bamf6603]

Pick also tiranwan for crystal armour and you are even more op wow

[@PolafTCG]

I agree what a powerful combo. PLUS Ava’s devices. Maybe varlamore for the great echo ranged gloves and quiver??? Desert, Fremmy, Varlamore?

[@mrskim5862]

There was no chance i was taking desert again this leauges until i saw that blowpipe, gotta have it

[@deviouschimp4663]

Yeah the desert is eating good now. I was gonna pick it just because I love ToA... but the blowpipe makes my pick all the more sweeter! I can't wait to get my hands on that

[@PolafTCG]

Paired with what else? Fremmy echo Jewelry maybe?

[@travismolnoskey2745]

i really do wish either the Gloves of the Damned or Sunlit Bracers would have been Boot slot so we could match them together. Guthans with 50% chance to heal 2x the damage you deal would have been nuts, along with a blood fury

[@doubleshine]

Kinda agree but I think the VarlaMorytania Combo was so popular already that for most people it would just lock that in for them, you would be so ridiculously strong with both combined.

[@travismolnoskey2745]

@@doubleshine yeah VFM looking very popular this year, can't wait to see Dharok's hitting 300

[@FunFactOfTheDay]

Couldn't agree more with this comment - wild healing strats are my favorite in leagues, that would have been so much fun - really makes these two regions clash, since it ruins the same thing for blood barrage and ahrims

[@Just_me_Jack]

@@FunFactOfTheDay Can put the bracers on and then eat to get the bonus I guess. Then swap out for the Gloves of the Damned when not doing dmg.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

the echo boss annouencements were AMAZINGGGGGGG!!!! i loveeeeee how RIGHT YOU AND HIM WERE!!!! cant wait for your collab vid where you review all of this but mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn it RADICALLY changed my preference on some of these places and bosses and now FREMMINIK IS LIVING SO LARGE!!!!! nad it even makes me CARE about desert AND fremmy for an insanly buffed up blowpipe!!!!1 death by a thousand cutsssssss~ even on my MELEER this combo of regions not only makes maxing super chill and fun and pletny of content, al lthe other relics will make it insane but i just love that asgarnia, desert, fremmy offers me almost BIS range AND melee gear overall and toa is a super newb freidnly radi i can try ot learn and will eventually get amazing gear form that i wont chicken out on this tiem and playing with everyone else nad all getting purples will be AMAZING! even if ill never survive a 500 invo, all i need is 150 invos solo for my fang and light bearer and im happy! but DRYGOREFANG WITH ASGARNIA INFINITE AMETHYST DARTS SOUNDS SO DANG AMAZING! like i wish asgarnia wasnt such a HARD good combo with POWER MINEr because i have mining and smithing and probably gold solved soooooooo easily thati know i should go animal wrangler but sometimes we do whats fun hahaha~ eitherway having +30 FLAT RANGE STRENGTH for a blowpip that has giga accuracy but DOESNT get the charge toxic blowpipes +20 base str, means +28 str amethyst dartts will get DOUBLE STRENGTH and with sooooo much accuracy even void could pop off! super excited even if it means the missery of kq returnsssssssss~ hahaha. sorry i spammed too much again but # engagement numbers ammirite? eitherway so many plans and recall vs bn is such a painful choice for desert and asgarnia cause of how MUCH non instanced bossesi have to muder in MASSIVE vloumes with NO GOO TELEPORTs even with the lcue relic saving gwd BARLY its gonan be wilddddddddddd

[@g.waits4gainz205]

uber sol heredet is the singl reason im not taking it on my main cause i just havent done enough high end pvm hahaha~ but the most amazing alt fun and challenge ever lets goooooo

[@g.waits4gainz205]

i think if anything 18:34 some of the most fun meme builds are going to be crystal blessing with zeah natures reprisal doing melee attac kon sulrah :) too bad its magic nad range optinos are just catagorically better os yeah nothing to really help make the bosses IN tirn feel good TO melee but its nice ot se eits support held up even if it needed more time cooking hah love it!

[@g.waits4gainz205]

11:03 truly if it sadi something liek the crystal scroll did with like "barrows set effects are now active without suing the respective barrows weapon" would have been vastly more game changing on top of or instead of some of the thematic stuff cause mannnnnnnnnnn its going to feel REAL bad when you have weapons that are just better toward the end game, but suuuuuuuuuper good in the mid to early game if you rush barrow and can somehow beat the echo bosses well enough yup!

[@g.waits4gainz205]

10:43 amazing for ancient magics especially for mory magic user i bet esp since we know you dont need the desert now which is wild but hoenstly???/ its going to feel extreemly under whelming in the long term of an account because they still FORCE YOU to use the WEAPONS of the barrows sets nad unless we get a tic speed /2 relic or something insane, so many of those will feel bad and sooooooooooooooooo many other regions and gear sets are just going ot be better even WITH the gloves! buuuuuuuuuuut off style options of karil and ahrim is amazing for a melee relic user! and sweitching into guthans to heal up during trips is super cool even with recall/bankers note but i think overlal the value of barrows is going to drop drastically as people start doing the math and choosing places~~~~~ as much as id HATE to have a non raids alt, it might be waaaaaaay more fun ot not have the pressure cause VFW is looking insane! varlamore, fremmy, wildy could just be a wild ride of a hilarious time for sure hah

[@all_thescience]

To put in perspective how absurd the echo DK jewelry is for ranged builds, current maxed ranged setups give you about 20 ranged strength across your all of armor slots. These two pieces give 30 by themselves. The echo BP is gonna go CRAZY with them

[@andrewserafine3978]

Echo BP has 0 base ranged strength, its 20 weaker than our current BP... it's not going to be that amazing.

[@all_thescience]

@@andrewserafine3978 Oh that's actually tragic if that ends up being the live version. You would need the Fremmy jewelry just to make it functional at that point and that just feels bad

[@GenocideLv]

Dogsword is hilarious! This was definitely the play, jagex. Im more excited than ever for leagues

[@thegrichel2049]

After the single relic reveal yesterday, today’s reveal blew my mind. Let the theorycrafting COMMENCE.

[@DardyGamer]

Keep in mind that the charged regular blowpipe has a +20 ranged strength bonus which the drygore blowpipe is lacking.

[@doubleshine]

Yeah sadly I didn't catch it at the time, I think it's still way stronger in most content because it gets so much more accuracy which is Blowpipe's weakness, but I can easily see it being worse than regular Blowpipe for content like Fight Caves where monsters have 0 defense anyways.

[@ChillButter]

At least it has 6 range, instead of 5 range like regular blowpipe. Little nice extra range

[@Papaconstantopoulos]

Wouldn't be surprised if this was an oversight, like they just listed the stats of the uncharged one on accident

[@hem9483]

@@Papaconstantopoulos I don't think it has a charged variant, I think the tradeoff for double rolled accuracy is no ranged strength.

[@jlamar534]

@@hem9483 but u will need to charge it with darts 🤓

[@bcaudell95]

Great video, as always! I think the echo hunnleff is great in large part because of skipping the prep phase of cg. The blessing is kinda cool if a little underwhelming, but assuming you can kill the echo boss in a reasonable time, that perk alone will hugely speed up the cg grind for weapon/armor seeds.

[@PolafTCG]

I wish Tirannwn had 2 Echo items. I think the blessing is great but I wish they had added something like either: Crystal boots, which could give great tribrid stats with an extra boost to stack with the rest of the set. (This could compensate for when you sometimes need to remove a slot for maybe slayer helm) Or a crystal-based mage weapon, crystal scepter maybe with some weird boost to auto cast demon-bane spells. Need some mage love in the elf lands!

[@TheRealDylGaming]

Starting since last leagues I now watch the daily reveals on your channel. Good stuff!

[@ThaAftrPartie]

The league hype killed the Varla burnout! Bought a bond for 14.75m today and opened my caskets and pulled a gilded kite at 113!

[@PolafTCG]

Gratz bro

[@chrisc6688]

think i saw this on reddit! gg

[@thomasryan2134]

Been subbed since you had less than 1k subs, proud of you fam and keep the content coming!

[@Ffancrzy]

TELL ME WHAT TO DO DADDY DOUBLESHINE

[@trinking3711]

The Hespori reward is insane, i don’t know if it gives Farming experience but if it does. We’re talking about an insane reward and melee bosses with unlimited run? We could do bandos bowfa method using melee

[@jessewarren9109]

You are literally the only creator i want to watch for these things!

[@ExSpectre]

Cerberus is an SS tier just for the name of the sword alone. This did definitely solidify my Morytania pick, and probably puts me into Asgarnia, but now I'm also toying with the idea of Wilderness or Varlamore. I don't play much OSRS outside of leagues so I know I probably wont be able to beat the Colliseum. I'm still waiting to see how the combat styles will pan out but I was planning on maining melee this year, or Desert would look really fucking juicy. I really had fun machine-gunning my blowpipe last year.

[@Gearwik6027]

One nice thing about Echo Thermy would to have wrath runes on the drop table. Either way fremmy is a great pick so needing fremmy for surge spells is fine.

[@gravy4624]

I love your videos! Best league content in the game. As someone who only plays leagues now, i am hyped to get hyped with you

[@not_worth]

I am totally expecting hybrid or tribrid combat masteries

[@flake8382]

Let's gooooo big announce today. Thought this would come later!

[@paulodmourao]

your content is giving me a much needed break everyday bro haha. Keep it up!

[@chrislewin5336]

When Doubleshine miss clicks the record button so the video is delayed 😢

[@Alucitary]

knew this was going to be a long one. I'm honestly most excited about Nature's Reprisal. Assuming Echo Hespori isn't too crazy I'm very releived to have a good magic weapon option early. My zones had pretty bad options until landing a Shadow, but this just solves that problem completely.

[@Papaconstantopoulos]

Exactly my thought, the trumpet is going to carry cox and toa mage damage until shadow drop. Before it was super painful

[@Jacksin24]

Very interested to see what the relics are considering the new weapons heavily favor melee. I, for one did end up changing my regions because of this. Freminick’s nearly untouchable support items will buff all three play styles so I subbed it in instead of desert since I already have raids in Kourend, and the new blowpipe seems meh. Monarch Amulet and Emperor Ring will automatically make any regular weapon nearly on par with the echo weapons.

[@djbcubed]

it's not super exciting because no extra effects, but I agree the amulet and ring from Fremmy are crazy good.

[@Jacksin24]

@@djbcubed It is kind of a bummer that there aren’t extra effects, but that also means they’re not situational and just a straight massive buff. There are also no competing items in those slots.

[@heatwave115]

The crystal with melee is insane with the fremmy as your partner. Those rings and amulets with scythe AND crystal will go hard. I definitely have priff in A or S

[@zackmash851]

ehh the calcs are underwhelming, for the most part you'll have better dps in both mory and asgarn from just getting normal melee armour rather than using the crystal armour. honestly i feel like only kandarin is worse than priff

[@PolafTCG]

I think Tirannwn for crystal with fremmy support, and Zeah for raids and the mega salamander is the ultimate tribrid dream. It’s not all about raw stats and single best dps setup. I think this sounds like a really fun and very versatile setup that lets you enjoy alot of really fun content. Especially however the mastery system ends up working out.

[@djbcubed]

@@PolafTCG doing CoX camping full crystal and a mega salamander is peak leagues that sounds so fun lol

[@PolafTCG]

@@djbcubed exactly. Salamander gets boost from crystal now in melee style. Ring and ammy will power it up heavily. Really considering it… we’ll see as more gets revealed.

[@cormactaylor9539]

Man I'm so glad I found your channel you're leagues content is unmatched!

[@flake8382]

Killing it last year was great this year is next level.

[@kwsx11]

We're eating so good lately!

[@lesnacke]

love the vids bro, you geeking out is also pretty funny haha

[@doubleshine]

Honestly it was 2x longer, this is with me editing out all the nonsensical excitement noises

[@spudchungus]

Cant wait. Im thinking of going range build, so blowpipe is nobrainer. Now with this reveal my plan is settling on fremmy for the jewelery and varlamore because its new and has endgame challenge :D this is so epic!

[@seaboundgiraffe]

I watched the reveal and spent the whole time going “this changes everything” for each boss/drop I’m so hyped

[@quaweds]

Keep in mind with the Hespori Echo Weapon, it doesnt make switching atk styles to easy, you have to change gear then go to the combat tab and change combat stances. It could low key make it harder to fight some bosses.

[@dylanon3k]

Frem + Desert is gonna be nuts with that blowpipe and jewelry combo

[@jackhuckelberry8405]

Zeah + Fremmy gives you a weapon that attacks in all three styles + jewelry that buffs each of those styles. Or Wildy + Fremmy gives you 4 insane echo items with only 2 region picks. Lots to think about

[@voldemortqwe]

The fact that the Sol spear has such high defensive bonuses (which is quite unusual for a weapon!) makes me wonder if there's going to be a combat mastery that buffs you based on your defensive stats. A hidden synergy would explain why a weapon that *seems* to be around the mid-late-game tier is dropped by an (I assume) endgame objective.

[@PolafTCG]

I did NOT expect such a JUICY leagues reveal so soon. I was so excited for leagues and now this sent me over the edge. This changes everything. I think Frem is a 100% must pick. Jagex absolutely cooked with this one. I was hoping Tirannwin blessing would apply to mage weapons as well, that would help it compete with other picks. But imagine crystal paired with the wildy melee setup supported with fremmy jewelry. Unfortunately no access to raids so it’s a no go, but what a setup!! I think Zeah (mega salamander) and fremmy (ring/ammy) are must picks for me. Impossible to settle on a final 3rd region though 🤯

[@deputy_dog]

I immediately went back to the drawing board with my entire strategy for leagues

[@emma_tm]

genuinely GOATED channel for leagues

[@benreichert0]

Kalphite Blowpipe with +30 ranged strength and +60 accuracy from Fremmy jewelley seems... completely insane tbh. Like completely blowing other combat styles out of the water levels of power.

[@doubleshine]

Yeah i'm like really leaning right now towards ranged just being ridiculous, Fremmy Jewelry is just so disproportionally strong for ranged

[@Tatercon]

Dharocks beats scythe at 30 hp. Youll be able to hit over 100 constantly with bloodfury. Ranged is good but melee is up there

[@shaksta4]

Just remember if there is a tick speedup, its very very hard to use the blowpipe without moving around. And every time you move you miss a hit. That being said, if you can minimise movement, it's ridiculously strong. Sucks you gotta take D for it. ToA sucks for off styles and wardens its mandatory to be moving making blowpipe a bad pick for the raid in general.

[@-ZH]

Depending on how the combat pans out, I might go kourend, tirranwan, and kandarin for the most versatile set-up. But if combat masteries favour a style, I’ll have to change it up

[@serlonzelot]

I was really counting on the echo reward for the wildy to be an attachment/scroll that would allow for the rev weapons to work outside of the wilderness. I cant be sure ofcourse but doubt they will make a relic/masterie a specific region so this might chance my plan to go wildy

[@TempestTemple]

I'm probably going to go Fremennik for the jewelry, Morytania for Barrows, and Desert for Ancients. Dharoks with the jewelry strength bonus and double set bonus on top sounds like it's capable of crazy max hits, and boosted Ancients is the cherry on top

[@Gotenhanku]

So one big thing you didn't think of when you said about Kandarin pairing with Mory for the Devil's element is how well it pairs with Ahrims set with the gloves of the damned. Since Ahrim's staff is 1 handed yo ucan wield it with the element and then you get that bonus damage from the damned ahrims effect combined with boosted elemental damage to shred anything weak to an element.

[@shaksta4]

The issue is what are you going to use it on? I just dont think theres enough content with ele weaknesses setup to make this worth getting

[@Gotenhanku]

@@shaksta4 yeah it is definitely the weakest of the echos i think. It's so niche in it's use compared to the others and just not that good.

[@KokoPowdery]

I personally don't take the attack speeds of the weapons as a sign for or against attack speed masteries cause i don't think they're tuning the weapons specifically and only for the people with the matching specialization. If you're taking wildy as a mage you're still getting the melee weapon, and it being 4 tick vs 5 tick is a pretty big deal on your off-style. We could also potentially have flat attack speed reduction which would impact different attack speed weapons differently

[@Gearwik6027]

The Sunlit braces healing for 80 off soulreaper axe is gonna be so fun!

[@Stickaplex]

Honestly the bracers seem like the coolest thing because of how many different things it meshes with. Soulreaper axe would be essentially infinite healing. Do a hit and take 5 damage, then spec and heal 10. Or get all 5 stacks and you basically have a banked 80 heal. And then you can also combine it with dogsword to get double healing on sgs and ancient gs. Would be nuts. One thing I am curious though is if it would buff overheal. Like could an angler overheal you to 140+hp? Would be crazy

[@MotivatedMan]

Bloody hell this has put a spanner in the works 😂

[@g.waits4gainz205]

3:37 just a PSA to everyone that the image should have been for a CHARGED blowpipe cause it gets a base +20 range str that the drygore blowpipe wont have, so itll hit ALMOST ALL THE TIME with how much accuracy you can pupm on that fang effect, but WITHOUT fremmenik jewlery doing insane work, it will hit significatly less. 2tics for insane overall dps tho is probably still gonna happen os massive hype!

[@arty5906]

I see myself finishing the Varlamore Echo boss, getting the full veracs set and a prayer relic if there is any and hoping I can pray infinitely everywhere with the Sol, this with the Sol weaponry could be fun in some cases

[@HighImHorizon]

dont you need to use veracs flail aswell for set effect? so wouldnt be able to do that with the sol weapon unless im missing something. could do it with the sunfire fanatic youll get from colloseum tho

[@jaredezz]

Really validating this D/F/Z enjoyer

[@SkulblakaFreohr]

Seeing Hespori being the Echo instead of Hydra has possibly changed one of my picks but the other two are staying exactly what they were. I’m unbelievably excited to speedblitz a ton of bosses.

[@Majoris239]

Im still thinking a mage-focused KDF route :) Kandarin gives some nice buffs, lot of straight forward tasks, lot of nice utility areas too. Desert obv amazing. Fremmy has house options, great mage juice, and now a super insane echo drop. Very excited!

[@Jacksin24]

Mory + Frem + Desert will make for some absolutely disgusting damage with ancients

[@cairo_z96]

I did KDF last league and it was super fun. It will probably be even more fun with the echo weapons now. But now that there’s the DKS echo boss drop, you could skip K now and go for another zone since you have jewelry covered

[@Jacksin24]

@@cairo_z96 I’m doing Frem for jewelry, Kourend for raids, BIS prayer, soul reaper/virtus, etc. and Asgarnia for GWD + funny dogsword, void and nex

[@daniel69]

Good afternoon doubleshine

[@ItsOvechkin]

6:30 they've flipflopped on attack speed rounding up or down, its probably going to be a round up league so 5t -> 3t instead of 2t like last league meaning 4t is better than 5t usually

[@ggbotleukedingen]

I'm so glad I predicted an Amulet of the Damned but Better for Mory, but I didn't imagine it would be gloves and -this- good, very hyped

[@g.waits4gainz205]

best part for people that truly think they can handle uber sol heredet is that it perfectly replaces asgarnia with varlamore for melee combat and im excited ot see it! combat masteries will determine everything, but not needing a defender anymore and doing tonssssssssss of fun is awsome to see~ VFM stocks went up massivly overall or VFD worst case

[@DraconicAbyss]

Melee salamander with crystal armour perk sounds fun. Maybe throw in the fremmy jewelry.

[@Juhheli]

Note that the blowpipe loses the ranged strenght, so its just really accurate darts. Wich im not sure if its better than something like acb with ruby bolts

[@Jacksin24]

I noticed that too, but then on screen the toxic blowpipe he showed didn’t have the range strength and it confused me

[@Juhheli]

@@Jacksin24 i believe thats the uncharged stats, it should have 20 range str

[@jessemccustard1009]

Here we go this is the big one

[@Aperson439]

For the zeah echo, the melee option also being a projectile seems like that could be fun to play with. Also, wtf frem. Those stats are nuts

[@taylordixon5871]

The worst part of the gloves of the damned is to get the set effect or the Amulet of the Damned effect, you have to wear all four pieces, which means you have to forego whatever awesome weapon/shield slot you may have gotten as a drop or even an echo drop. I ain't about to use Verac's Flail in Leagues.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

depending on masteries, and given what we already know, i could still see Zeah + asgarnira/varlamore + fremenik being INSANEEEEEEEE for the UBER sally strat with meleeing at range cause theres sooooooo much free melee str so time will tell

[@1991jiub]

Im thinking about the synergy between Devil’s element and Ahrim’s with the amulet of the dead/gloves. 100% elemental weakness+ 50% chance to do 60% more dmg.

[@ultimatecow.]

It can hit upwards of 106 i think, gearscape website has all the items allready so if you wana theory craft you can see stuff in action there

[@joshholmes1372]

V spear loves the fremmy jewelery. It scales 3% dmaage per prayer bonus, so thats 60% damage right there. Add in faceguard and sunfire top and bottom...crazy

[@Didodido66]

Combo of crystal armor+ sol spear + dks jewelry looks super fun and strong so I will be going for that especially because I like cg and colo

[@NanoBudgie]

Does the echo hespori grant farming xp when killed?

[@kona7043]

Zeah + tirranwn seems like a pretty interesting way to get into raids. 2/3 of the styles don't need armour swaps. Also lets you "melee" zulrah. Throw in fremmy and you've got insane jewellery to go with it. I was basically 100% commited to varlamore, desert and fremmy before these. But the above is kinda tempting.

[@PolafTCG]

Thinking that trio is such a good setup. Zeah mega salamander would be so good at Echo Dag Kings as well. I think Zeah/Frem go great together. I’m so tempted for wildy though and it wasn’t even on my radar before this.

[@UILazarus]

Wildy for sure got my attention, the spec on the melee weapon sounds like it could go bonkers with any relic to support it, with something like Crystal armour set bonus, that extra accuracy and damage will make that spec hit some INSANE numbers

[@PolafTCG]

Yeah I think Crystal with Wildy melee setup sounds insane. Only problem is fremmy is so strong that you’d also want it for the jewelry, and that leaves you without raids. I think a raids region is mandatory this league. But then again it’s all about having fun and picking content you enjoy 🙂

[@UILazarus]

@ yeah fremmy is crazy! but I went fremmy last league on my main account so I spent a LOT of time there so I’ll probably skip it for my main account. I was thinking about Varlarmore for my third region because Echo Sol sounds like a raid in of himself, I think this league im gonna focus on the echo bosses more than anything since I’ve done raids the past 3 leagues 🤣

[@UILazarus]

@ also an underrated part of the Crystal set with the Blessing is that you basically have near BIS melee AND range on a single item switch will probably feel really comfy

[@DizRod]

The Sunlight Spear seems to have a diferent icon for the special attack (Top-right of the stat box), similar to how Soul Reaper gets its own icon. Compare that to the Thunder Kopesh which has the standard spec icon ni the same spot. So I assume the Sunlight Spear has a spec that can be used, and then still have 100 regular spec left

[@TriceratopsUnicorn]

You have an uncharged blowpipe up for comparison against the desert one. The normal blowpipe has an extra 20 ranged strength that the echo one doesn't have.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

25:45 it also says nothing about swapping sets to GET prayer bonus and then unleash 2-3 special attacks from full stack and then switch BACK TO A DPS SET TO RESUPPLY THE STACKS WAHOOOOOOOO! also fremmy items giving +20 total prayer bonus is JUST NUTS

[@JSalamonTutoring]

Jagex considering these weapons to be "one step beneath" the mega rares just shows really how OP and game changing they are.

[@monarchsown6938]

The Amulet is literally calling my name. Fremmy for the win

[@swokeefe]

Now planning on Desert, Asgarnia, Fremmy

[@asdf2103912pi]

Kinda wish the echoes weren't as melee focused as they are: Desert - Ranged Asgarnia - Melee Wilderness - Melee Morytania - Tribrid Fremmy - Tribrid Kandarin - Mage Tirannwn - Melee Zeah - Tribrid Varlamore - Melee + Tribrid (Kinda) Meaning we have 3.5 melee exclusive echoes, 1 ranged exclusive echo, and 1 very niche mage exclusive echo. Kinda wish as someone who doesn't really want to go melee that we had more options. That being said, I wonder if this means we won't be locked to 1 style this time

[@matthewrusso4875]

I wish they would make the mort gloves count as +1 for all barrows sets. That way i can use dharoks and a scythe lol

[@doubleshine]

yeah that's kinda like the Tirannwn Set of giving the boost to other weapons, I think this is cooler though since it brings mid game weapons up to the level of stuff like scythe instead of just making Scythe even more OP

[@VitroVine]

I hope for combat masteries that synergize well with our new Salamander overlord

[@psychictech2398]

This vid gonna be GOOD

[@16colena]

VZT Melee seems like it will be very fun. a lot of the Echo items seem to by Hybrid of some sort.

[@Cakasaur]

Sol Hreddit kinda scares me from going Varlamore but i'm still probably gonna go there since it's still new osrs content. As for the sunlight spear, best comparison imo is to compare it to the zombie axe + Charged dragonfire shield, which kinda knocks the weapon at base down by quite a lot since it doesn't seem to be that big of a game changer as compared to the other echo equips. In the previous leagues playing mage that abused the heck out of blood barrage life steal, sunlit braces seems kinda disgusting for a blood barrage tank comfy playstyle. This would likely be even better considering access to Goading potions in V for peak afking.

[@TheDarkPassengr]

This reveal makes my 3rd choice so much easier. I was debating between Varlamore/Fremmy/Wildy to go along with my 2 raid regions. Fremmy 100%

[@mehirohouseki]

Ok I'm thinking I'll go varlamore, kourend, then fremenik. I feel varlamore has really good early/mid game gear and skilling plus i haven't explored a lot of it on my main, then kourend also has a good mix of activities plus i like the idea of a weapon that uses all combat styles. Lastly i go to fremmy pick up the ring and amulet from daganoth kings and then i can start doing end game stuff like cox and colosseum. IDK tho I'd like to see if there are combat relics that could change how i want to play this but i think it would be fun to be able to go with all 3 combat styles since hespori and the kings are going to make that a lot more viable. I'm so excited i can't wait for leagues, thank you for all the updates!!

[@cluelesseconomist1258]

I was going to go VF and then one of M/Z/A. After today, I am going to go VF and one of M/Z/A. I just love me some melee, and honestly the Dogsword is just so hilariously awesome that I might have to go that way. I do have to admit that the idea of going ZAF and just going all tribrid, all the time seems pretty funny with the Hespori weapon, DK jewelry, and void.

[@Jacksin24]

I came to all the same conclusions! I had ZAD, but F is just too OP so I leaned into tribrid and went ZAF

[@Celastrous]

What the fuck were they thinking with those 2 Fremmy items, holy shit

[@doubleshine]

I swear they could be half as strong and still be viable

[@Celastrous]

@@doubleshine Those 2 pieces, naked, is equal to wearing (venny ring + anguish) + 1.6 full sets of masori+zvb,quiver combined

[@AnishKumar-fk9jk]

What????​@@Celastrous

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

Morytania , Fremennik Tiranwnn. BIS Gloves, Ring , Necklace not sure how good crystal with the blessing is but probably similar to torva. And by choosing frem and tiranwnn u get maxed pool in your POH which is really nice.

[@Papaconstantopoulos]

It's a lot better than torva big dog

[@livezezian6900]

tfz gives ferocious gloves and ranged melee

[@chunkyman11]

Ok with the addition of echo bosses, are you and scritic gonna do an update vid? I'm feeling Mory, Zeah, and Wildly at the moment.

[@ArcaneComet575]

Scritic definitely did great with the video but I’d like to see you with a leagues reveal through Jagex this year

[@NerdPawn]

Random question guys. Do all regions have access to birdhouse runs?

[@doubleshine]

@NerdPawn Yup all of fossil island is Default, and you can get seeds from draynor.

[@linguotgr]

So what are our takes for regions per style? Melee - MFV, the insane prayer bonuses with the barrows bonuses and DK jewelers with that weapon feels insane. Ranged - DF…M? I really like the double hit on that bow pipe. If we can get it to 1 tick machine gun build will go hard. Mage - honestly no clue. I think mage may be the weakest this time around, but I think it will stomp outside of raids and bosses. Also I’m kinda wondering how the crystal thing will work with the hespori thing. If it’s considered a melee weapon, I could see something there being good.

[@ClayKicker]

Wonder if we get styles this time they did say something about combat relics not being linked to tasks or something in the summer summit. Really want to theory craft but to little information yet I think

[@livezezian6900]

they confirmed crystal works with hespori gun when using melee style

[@imcarolean]

Asgarnia has become a must pick for me, i need the dogsword!!

[@zegetable]

i already wanted to go desert, kourend, varlamore. this just solidifies my choices

[@SunburnedOrphan]

Looking at priff all i can think of is "Yo dawg we heard you like corrupt hunllef. So we corrupted your corrupt hunllef so you can corrupt hunllef while you corrupt hunllef"

[@viviblue7277]

Everyone beware there is an error in the reveal video! That is not how ahrims will work confirmed by Mod Arcane, it’s 50% for 30% damage not 60% damage!

[@JiffyGriffey]

Considering a Max Prayer build. Seems fun.

[@701Ranger]

It showed their difficulty on the vid, Sol Her was the only grandmaster. that fight should be a fun one!

[@Daniel33276]

Kourend frem tiran could be interesting for that crystal armour Salamander if the bonuses count

[@eggsbenedict8562]

I personally think Frem is actually pretty lacking. Literally just a couple of stat sticks. Morytania sounds nice at first, until you get to the point where the limited damage you can actually do with barrows weapons starts to hold you back. The dogsword is interesting but it would be nice to know if the bandos spec debuff will apply retroactively to the damage from the spec. Arm + Ancient on top of a defense debuff might lead to some massive special attacks

[@Tatercon]

"Just a couple stat sticks" the ranged strength alone is 10 more than what you can possibly get in main game with full bis and 60 extra accuracy