Doug Gottlieb Says Kendrick Perkins Does NOT Know Basketball

THE HERD - Doug Gottlieb analyzes Kendrick Perkins's recent comments made about the MVP voting and how there are always different views on who should get it. Doug dives in and speaks his mind on why Kendrick is very wrong.
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[@cjdayne3033]

Perkins being paid to talk basketball is the very definition of “moving the goalposts”

[@ektran4205]

he only supports joel embid because embid went through the american development system

[@jonolly8629]

@@teddylovesit Moving the goalposts applies in everything. Just because you get paid to talk basketball doesn't mean the term doesn't apply to your takes.

[@jonolly8629]

@@teddylovesit I didn’t mention anything about perk saying he moved the goalpost. I just said why does being a paid sports writer mean they’re exempt or they can’t be capable of moving the goal post? By the way in 2021 perkins pushed hard for CP3 to win the MVP when he was scoring 16 points per game.

[@jonolly8629]

@@teddylovesit I don’t think Perkins is moving the goalpost here. He’s just being hypocritical and wrong about Jokic.

[@chasingourhistory6855]

Doug how do you know it where you play this why your show is the lowest rated cause you have smart mouth

[@hellrello2739]

I think everyone would’ve agreed if he’d said perk doesn’t analyze the game well. Perk does nothing but give bad take after bad take and gets loud and defensive when he’s called out for said takes.

[@bigroncoleman11]

So that would mean he “doesn’t know basketball”? Thanks for confirming 👍🏼

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

all of that aside no way jokic should win a 3rd straight mvp bucks have the best record and giannis is a force of nature and a better player than jokic lets just be real here

[@mellol1628]

@@bigroncoleman11 well he played in nba and gets paid to analyze nba so there’s that.

[@businessk7236]

True @hellrello2739

[@hellrello2739]

@@bigroncoleman11 that’s like saying everyone who plays can coach. Shut up.

[@richiegonzo50]

I say this all the time. Perk's role when he was playing was to look mean and ugly. And he was so good at it.

[@bigroncoleman11]

Was he? 🤨

[@eugenecaldwell9619]

😂😂😂😂

[@dee-5297]

AMERICAN EUROS ARE EXTINCT TODAY......BIRD WAS IT . ....

[@Haddonfield63]

That was ya mothers job. And she STILL popped you out. That’s crazy right?

[@scarletspider1240]

My nickname for him when he was a player was “Frown face Perkins”. Dude literally never smiled and always looked angry…even when they won.

[@davidcarlos4350]

I cant wait till Kendrick responds… ladies these are our soap operas…😂

[@princellasmith7562]

😂😂😂😂😂 Yes, y'all love the drama of these backs and forths on these shows and podcasts. I like sports, and I keep up with it, too. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@scaramouche8244]

I can't wait for high blood pressure to kick in

[@52baldingindianjanitor72]

He played professionally, so I’m going to assume he knows basketball. That being said, whenever he gives a take, I automatically go to sleep

[@Se0420_]

just because he played professionally don’t mean he know ball. some guys just hit the genetic lottery

[@kevinnguyen5683]

​@Cadillac Kadafi include ownership too

[@willpomeroy7711]

Playing basketball and being able to analyze it are completely different.

[@robertrios1732]

Knowing how to play is different from knowing the game.

[@sumandsubstance7881]

He was an average player at best

[@megavolt67]

Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, Doug. Jokic is Serbian. As for the MVP conversation, the issue has always been how to define "most valuable". When Derrick Rose won the MVP, was he actually the best player in the league? Probably not. But the winning impact he had on his team made him arguably the most valuable. And so who gets the MVP has always depended on how voters weigh those two aspects. That said, are there also politics involved? Probably. One can only speculate, and of course Kendrick's speculation that race was a factor is controversial, but who knows. I wouldn't play the reverse racism card on him, though. Not when you've got so many white guys today complaining about non-white people invading their dominant spaces in the form of "forced diversity". And when MJ is still the only black team owner in a majority black player league. Whatever skepticism Jokic is facing from some black players for being white, he's certainly not being denied opportunties, and he's already got two MVP awards. He'll prove his merit by someday leading his team to a title, or not. Bird got respect for winning, Dirk got respect for winning, and Nash, unfortunately, failed to win. That's why some still question Nash whereas nobody questions Bird or Dirk. If Jokic wins a historic third MVP in a row, the expectations for him will increase, and so too will the scrutiny for not being a champion yet. That's just the way it goes.

[@HussL3_400]

Well said pal

[@markosekulic119]

When Jokic was born Yugoslavia existed like a name just it was war and territory was changed. But he plays for Serbia.

[@darrengordon-hill]

Whites can't complain about racist hiring practices because... no reason given?? WTF do the players in the NBA have to do with ownership? How many owners - regardless of race - are former players?? So we should give some former player billions to buy a franchise?? Are blacks incapable of becoming billionaires???

[@whatismyname218]

THANK YOUU you should take this guy’s place 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@minnuss]

@@markosekulic119 So, there are people who are Soviets still …. Your statement does not have sense. He was born in Serbia, and Serbia was a member of the federation as a republic within Yugoslavia.

[@BicMichuM]

Perk talks with his feelings😂😂😂

[@dee-5297]

And the American Europeans are in their feelings Where are the American Europeans at today their extinct basketball is dominated by israelites a Slovenian and a Serbian so what are American Europeans talking about what is this dude up here talking about Larry Bird we don't have to go to the eighties our players are today we dominate today So while American European steady talking because they're jealous and mad TODAY...... PERK AND JJ IS RIGHT

[@shivampatel5802]

Lol

[@shivampatel5802]

Perk is a big Turkey . I see espn come knocking on his door . Racist comments don’t go without being delt with . He was too scared to say it , come on big perk say it with your chest out , don’t beat around it like a little mermaid .

[@truthhurts837]

There is one man who has had an NBA season with 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists. One man. Not Jordan. Not Lebron. Not Wilt or Larry. That man is Nikola Jokic. He did it last season. That’s the perfect all around basketball season. And this season he’s better! He’s averaging a 25 point triple double on the FIRST PLACE TEAM while having ZERO other all stars on his team with him. And his shooting percentages are legendary. The NBA is filled with bigoted players and fans. Sincerely, Truth Hurts

[@shivampatel5802]

@@truthhurts837 perfectly put it , let the best man on the best team win regardless of color of skin or how they play . Perk going to have to get his brain autopsy for CTE at some point .

[@sylvio1980]

Perkins and Steven A. Smith are examples of people when you look through their delivery method, antics, loud voice etc. have nothing of value to say.

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

if he was right about the players who are NOT at least top ten in scoring but won mvp since 1990 and they were all white players then he maybe has a point

[@tomstorm7926]

But he’s talking about it so they actually are doing their job which is to be entertaining

[@jerryneil8558]

I would add Skip Bayless to that too

[@petep5207]

@@tomstorm7926 Entertaining to low IQ mongos

[@jakeMontejo3272]

@@futuretimetraveller8677 why did he stop at 1990 ? Is it because in the 80s, Magic won it and wasn’t in the top ten in scoring?

[@laughoutlos]

Perkins is really hard to listen to. That’s why I don’t.

[@anthonyfernandez9403]

I think this segment would have been better if he spent less time talking about how people think about race and more time talking about why the guys Perkins mentioned deserved the MVP. That would have been more convincing.

[@rrmond]

There's a reason why out of all the former players we get guys like Perk as a main analyst.

[@cyber6sapien]

Exactly!!!

[@rodneypoole6021]

To represent us in a certain manner...why not put an articulate brother on TV? Of course we know the answer.

[@laflamablanca9161]

This man said jokic is Yugoslavian 😂😂

[@drewland6140]

Larry Bird got a lot of respect....he was on the dream team.....Doug gets in his feelings about race everyday....poor Doug 😂😂😂😂

[@darrengordon-hill]

Meanwhile, "BLM" and "NAACP" exist... but you say it's... Doug Gottlieb in his feelings about race daily??? K pal.

[@jackjohnson1932]

Big facts

[@sumandsubstance7881]

​@@darrengordon-hill 1000% on point

[@Juntao1989]

@@darrengordon-hill yea man those oppressed YTs who started the NAACP must’ve been so hard to lynch rob r@pe, pillage the YT man in America, I feel so bad for your great past history

[@deciuswtasby]

@@darrengordon-hill the Proud Boys, KKK, and FBI (lol), exist too but you don’t see me complaining….reality is Doug and Perk are both dumb. Sports is one of the few places that players (people) simply recognize greatness without all that extra crap. Most of society is too busy working with others to be worried about a minority of idiots still concerned about “color” being the only thing defining someone’s character

[@LLPOF]

I have more intelligent conversations with my dog in one day than anyone has had with Perk in the last 20 years.

[@drewland6140]

Nobody expects the two time maybe three time MVP to do anything in the playoffs.....that sounds a lot like empty stats

[@universe-ie2mk]

Empty stats he's built like arvydas sabonis and runs the floor are u joking right now? Like any great player, all he need is some help he got the rest. Dont sleep on denver they are deep and loaded.

[@johnnyutah7989]

Nobody expects the two time runner up, Embid to do anything in the playoffs. At least Jokic made it to the conference finals and lost to the champs, but you do have to prove the haters wrong. Lebron got some hate until he powered up with Miami. We'll see.

[@digontozahid]

Jokic's playoff stats are outstanding its not his fault his two best teammates was injured last 2 seasons ....its not tennis its not a one man game you still need a team to win in postseason...last time jokic had a healthy he went to western conference finals ....also jokic never played with a all star in his nuggets career while most other stars has hof and all nba teammates

[@darrengordon-hill]

No - that sounds like hating. You DON'T WANT HIM TO WIN so you can further hate on him.

[@dee-5297]

​​@user-bv8sg5lq6sH ow do he need help when they're in the playoffs hes average a triple double that mean when he passed they make the SHOT ,l people say the same thing about luka donick but hes a ball hogl players get better when they get away from him quit making excuses it's always a double standard that's why we don't like to listen tmAmerica Europeans talk Hoop because their extinct today where is the Slovenian and a Serbian people at

[@jeremywilson3032]

The goal post definitely moves when it comes to giving back to back mvps. Haven’t heard anyone say anything about voters fatigue with Jokic yet. If he gets 3 straight, they owe multiple players mvps. Jordan, Lebron, and Giannis for starters.

[@OscarUnrated]

He should’ve never won last year then it would be fine

[@truthhurts837]

There is one man who has had an NBA season with 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists. One man. Not Jordan. Not Lebron. Not Wilt or Larry. That man is Nikola Jokic. He did it last season. That’s the perfect all around basketball season. And this season he’s better! He’s averaging a 25 point triple double on the FIRST PLACE TEAM while having ZERO other all stars on his team with him. And his shooting percentages are legendary. The NBA is filled with bigoted players and fans. Sincerely, Truth Hurts

[@robertsmith9290]

@@truthhurts837 sound like stay padding last season

[@chrish2112]

Shaq

[@Handsome_Bum]

Dude was missing his 2nd and 3rd best player for basically entire season. Imagine lebron leading the lakers to a middle seed with great counting stats and elite efficiency missing AD and Russ for the entire season. And the past 2 years the team he lost to in the playoffs were the finals runner up and eventual champions. If you had common basketball sense this nuggets season isn't surprising.

[@mellol1628]

You don’t have to imagine Lebron carrying injured and lower tier cast. You can go back to his history and see it. Lebron not in his prime anymore.

[@ownthelibs]

LeBron won 60 plus games with worse rosters

[@WittynotSilly]

LeBron has lead worse teams to the finals I get the analogy your tryna make but pick a different player lol

[@Handsome_Bum]

@lilfred_NES who were the other best teams during that time period? I'm guessing you're referring to 2006-2009 range. Teams didn't really have big 3s or superstar duos for that matter. Spurs,lakers,magic,celtics

[@yvans.]

@@ownthelibs no he didn’t and people need to stop with that narrative. You can’t lead a team 60+ wins without having good players. This isn’t possible !!!

[@jaydell4039]

Not surprised. Ever notice the centers have the worse takes like Shaq

[@theripper631]

Yes because if most of them where 6'2 like me or even average height ,they would never make the league

[@daa_97]

@@theripper631 it’s 6’2 players in the league what’s your excuse

[@theripper631]

@@daa_97 I legit said if players like Perkins we're 6'2 they wouldn't make the league,which is true

[@luckycarter536]

​@@theripper631 if they were smaller guys, they'd be totally different players...so that's a dumbass 'IF'

[@luckycarter536]

Shaq definitely knows basketball tho.

[@mattgibney4085]

JJ earned my respect because a lot of people would of let Perk yell and talk over them and have his way because that’s what he always does when he says his BS takes. It amazes me that Perks is on TV let alone getting paid for it. JJ tore everything perks said in pieces one by one and I’m all for it

[@sumandsubstance7881]

He's biased for the brothers

[@mcjudilla774]

You are right Doug. KP, who played in the NBA for 14 years, doesn't know anything about basketball.. and ofcourse, you do.

[@jessesantiago6575]

So thefuck what ?? He was center.... how many centers end up coaches ????

[@lancejacobsen8372]

Doug is a fake know it all. He absolutely sucks. And Kendrick (who I don’t like as analyst) is right in this instance.

[@dustinwroten353]

Have you ever watched KP play a game? He was awful and looked lost on the court lol. He was the shaqtin a fool God.

[@hbb7528]

​@@dustinwroten353 yeah he was so lost that he found the nba 14 times. Won 2 rings

[@antonisgoudaras346]

He also played basketball in Europe where they actually use their brain playing basketball!

[@kcnoise]

Doug, it’s racism. It sounds like you know that but are hesitant to say it. Say it!

[@ynotsi_Cus]

Idk why there's even a debate. In my opinion the MVP now a days is like a sixth man award, give it to the best player carrying their team then make another award for the best player of that season. If they do that then that player has a good chance of winning both awards which will help that players case in future GOAT debates

[@johnwalker1821]

Rod Strickland had the exact same numbers Nash had in his mvp years and didn't even make the all star game

[@billlarussa5908]

He didn't. Not even close. But nice try. Oh, how many game did Rod's team win in those years?

[@johnwalker1821]

@@billlarussa5908 in 1997 with Washington rod Strickland Ave 18ppg and 10 dimes no all star selection ....2006 Steve Nash 18ppg 10 dimes MVP .... ITS DOCUMENTED

[@scoop2448]

@@johnwalker1821 not just about stats.. they only had 42 wins and missed playoffs. nash took the 29 win suns to 61 wins and the WCF. then the next year he lost his 2 of his best players (amare, joe johnson) and got them to the WCF again

[@lancebrady3770]

nash’s mvp we’re ridiculous, he wasn’t even a top ten player in league, kobe had an all time great season but his team sucked and he had just had the tape allegations, jokic on the other hand has statistics both raw and advanced that would measure up against any mvp year ever. please don’t compare nash ( borderline hall of fame) to jokic( one of the most skilled bball players to ever play)

[@sebastiancovac7879]

yeah but bullets got 5 more wins with addition of strikland while suns got 33 more with nash.

[@reneeellis4389]

If a player is dominant for the year and his team has the best record that player deserves the mvp, it's a regular season award, listening to perk it seems like it is becoming more of a issues since these foreign players started becoming better than some of the players in the league

[@soda8736]

Yea and their white. That's the main issue to Perk and all these racist black sports analyst

[@tashied422]

By your logic Jokic should only get MVP this year and not the last two times. So the goal post is being changed.

[@zenkobe9617]

Then LeBron and Jordan should have got 10 MVPs

[@jackzeldon2883]

Luv Perk but he fumbled this badly.... Lazy NBA media is the prob.... they defended Nash's Fraud MVP's w/ the One seed argument (98% of MVP are 1 or 2 seed) then they throw out their Own rule to give Westbrick & Joker insane 6 seed MVP's but now they pull the One seed back out they azz to justify a 3peat & you gotta understand if someone gonna win 3 MVP in a row they gotta be Magic, Jordan, Kareem, Bird, Lebron level Great - All Time Greatest of the Greats & as much as I like Joker's game - he's not that.....

[@edashmusix]

and this is what perkins was talking about. when embiid wsd in 1st place and jokic wads in 6th he won mvp.but this year the goalpost gets moved for yte guy. and this is what perk talking about and jj a typical yte guy so flabbergasted at the mention of racism as if we are not in the most racist country on the planet

[@stuartperry8141]

If Doug Gottlieb really knew basketabll he would have knew that it was how Phoenix played that allowed all those players including Nash to thrive. Mike D'Antoni should get a lot of credit because later on he did something similar with James Harden when he was with Houston.

[@vivienneduong6541]

You have got to be kidding me. Nash made Mike D the coach he was not the other way around. SMH

[@scoop2448]

Mike D'antoni had an 0-8 playoff record as a head coach before Nash

[@sebastiancovac7879]

youre right, nash was at the right place at the right time, but he took the advantage of that opportunity. that suns team was 29-53 the year before nash got there and 62-20 with nash there the 1st year. thats a 33 win swing. also that 62-20 team was 2-5 in games nash didnt play. he had a major impact on that dantoni system. also it didnt help that most top players were either on bad teams (garnett/kobe/lebron), or paired with other good players (shaq with wade/duncan with parker and ginobili). the only guy who was on a good team and putting up good stats at that time was dirk.

[@Dipset415]

Anybody who has lebron over kobe doesn’t know basketball💯🤷🏿‍♂️

[@donjuanthelieutenant5824]

what does Kobe do better than Lebron? Lol you Kobe fanboys are unbelievable. You all should be used in a case study for graduate level psychology courses. It is amazing what the "mamba mentality" brand and simply being cool can do for one's legacy.

[@antman7842]

Talk radio, TV shows, and other platforms that talk about sports, politics, etc. are all opinionated. There are some facts but they get lost in the conversation because people have their version of the truth which are opinions so it is what it is.

[@jtonneck]

Usually with you Kobe should’ve won that mvp

[@jackzeldon2883]

100% Kobe was robbed - Lazy NBA media is the prob.... they defended Nash's Fraud MVP's w/ the One seed argument (98% of MVP are 1 or 2 seed) then they throw out their Own rule to give Westbrick & Joker insane 6 seed MVP's but now they pull the One seed back out they azz to justify a 3peat & you gotta understand if someone gonna win 3 MVP in a row they gotta be Magic, Jordan, Kareem, Bird, Lebron level Great - All Time Greatest of the Greats & as much as I like Joker's game - he's not that.....

[@Bobbleheads56]

Its crazy that people are so emotional about the 3peat like who cares. This year so far jokic deserves the mvp even more than he did the previous two years

[@settledown5392]

The fact that Kendrick gets paid to talk basketball is baffling to me. Dude gets paid to be a fool every week.

[@keysersoze6506]

They don't give multiple MVPs to guys that don't win a championship

[@thirstfen]

I know Doug was bout to Throw his Cape on for this topic

[@Juntao1989]

Lmfaooo EXACTLY then gonna lie and say it doesn’t bother him…gtfoh

[@soda8736]

As he should. 99 percent of the sports media is racist , Doug is one of the only ones fighting back . Guys on ESPN have no balls..

[@Juntao1989]

@@soda8736 lmfao fights back? By LITERALLY being the open BIGOT on every racial topic? Lmfao yayyyyyy make America openly r@y-cess again 😁

[@soda8736]

@@Juntao1989 The only people I see making America racist is the majority of sports media.

[@MyTROTINET]

Well said!!

[@ozlanden]

When he said “what do dirk, Jokic and Steve nash have in common” I literally went “oh they’re all foreign” 😭😭

[@MELLWALT5000]

That part

[@dee-5297]

Exactly they're overseas Europeans now we IN 2023 ...WHERE IS THE AMERICAN EUROS AT....😂😂😂😂😂

[@soda8736]

Because it was ESPN , I went they are all white. ESPN is full of race baiters

[@ektran4205]

steve nash also went throught the american developmental system

[@gabrieldouglassmith2711]

Can someone explain how this isn't racist 🙄

[@rickyflowers188]

I never listen to Kendrick Perkins so lol

[@johnnyd5047]

He sure does know LeBron tho.

[@bigballerju07]

Nah this is mad disrespectful. Even Skip Bayless isn't telling dudes who played in NBA they don't know basketball.

[@ajpierre]

exactly. Doug Gottlieb wasn’t even good in college.

[@mileshall9235]

Perk is seriously R3TARD3D. Almost as bad as Arenas.

[@prettyridesmedia]

I wonder when did it start being ok being racist on tv was normal? Too many ex players are now experts while you don’t see journalists anymore that actually know how to express themselves.

[@henryslatt9041]

Perk never mentioned the color of their skin, where is Doug getting this

[@deciuswtasby]

He’s playing to a particular audience apparently…..John Stockton to me is the best “point” guard ever…

[@walker71860]

The man who doesn’t know sports at all goin to say someone don’t know basketball 😂😂😂

[@mistere6871]

A bit of advice......educate yourself before you post something. Or at least do a search real quick. Gottlieb was a starter at Notre Dame then Oklahoma state. A hell of a point guard actually.

[@edashmusix]

@@mistere6871 and perkins has rings . mcdonalds all american shut yo casual ass up. gottlieb has not even a fraction of perks basketball knowledge

[@mistere6871]

@@edashmusix So 2 rings makes Perk smarter about BB than, hmmmmmmmm, lets say, Vince Carter?

[@darrencudjoe755]

Doug out here talking who don't know Ball🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrish2112]

Doug knows ball.

[@mastadabator]

@@chrish2112Doug is a troll when it comes to Lebron. Look up what he did in college he is a thief.

[@MrBobbyj32]

He's a funny entertaining guy(for some] who made a success out of himself. That said, whenever I see him, I turn the channel.

[@bsharp1981]

Amare was out that season

[@rashadjohnson-sc6kk]

He’s talking about the second Nash MVP when they were 54-28

[@scoop2448]

Still had 9 more wins than Lakers. Nash's best players were Marion and Boris Diaw that year (amare injured). Not that it matters but Nash beat Kobe in playoffs that year and got to WCF.

[@nathanielcollins9207]

Denver was a 6th seed and 3rd seed in the west and Jokic won MVP. Bull crap

[@nathanielcollins9207]

Doug Gottlieb you don’t know sports period you shouldn’t even be talking sports!

[@nutman2909]

@@nathanielcollins9207 we don’t care, like no one cares

[@christhomas4889]

Yea I think it’s a business decision! They’re trying to grow the game if was really who’s the MVP it would have been MJ every year, Kobe, Shaq, then lebron for 30 years! This a business at the end of the day NBA is trying to go global! And these guys are really good!

[@rashadsmith6911]

I'm tired of professionals quoting rappers. It sounds stupid to me.

[@chrish2112]

Steve Nash was a great player. I still think Kobe should have won MVP in 07, but that doesn't change the fact that Nash was incredible. Acting like people incorrectly thought he was good just because he's white is pure, evil racism. End of discussion.

[@jayesonmack3108]

We gonna pretend that it's normal that Steve Nash and Jokic have more MVPs than Shaq and Kobe. Stop It. Perkins was right on

[@lennybeason1110]

Boom ‼️

[@NBAalaChilena]

Jokic from Yugoslavia? Really doug??

[@Bobbleheads56]

Plenty of people play well and dont know how to analyze the games or team composition. Lebron is a dam genius on the court but his gm moves usually fail

[@Regularguy92]

“Is it oochie Wally or one mic” is a classic quote tho. Perk can turn a damn phrase, not for nothing.

[@PWHN77]

Nah it’s dumb, not classic at all

[@daveasmer3353]

You should buy his book, clearly two of you are on the same IQ lvl....

[@PWHN77]

@@daveasmer3353 Life is short, I’d rather read Dostoyevsky. It wouldn’t hurt you to pick up a book too, Davey boy.

[@soda8736]

That was the best part of his so called argument

[@PWHN77]

Perkins is a hate monger, and a race baiting fool. No place for people like him.

[@marshbalajo2092]

To try and implicate the race card for just a regular season award is my blood boil. That hate is the next level for a Jokic hate. Perk trumped nick wright.

[@soda8736]

Yes the whole media is against Jokic . But there some saying Embeed should have one last year and this Year and Jokich has gone further in the playoffs than Embeed

[@andrejgolubovic2426]

Maybe you will understand the criteria if you go to Denver and watch one of their games with the fans...

[@dannydornacher8109]

Perk is there to push the agenda of DEI. ESPN pays him well for it.

[@soda8736]

Yes ESPN makes everything about race..Rob and Chris and Shannon and Skip do as well

[@smxwing]

I was set to agree with you but in no way did Nash deserve that more than Kobe, you're crazy

[@jiminietz7841]

Jokic is a Beast!

[@taterpuddin2592]

What do Jokic, Nash, and Nowitzki have in common? Foreign players that played the game team-first and elevetaed their teams to be the best team in the west. 3 players that got the stats without looking for them.

[@pmerel]

''Since 1990..'' Perkins is conveniently leaving out the two MVP seasons of Magic Johnson were he was not a top 10 scorer.

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

@ Philippe Meryl, Magic stat had lead to winning a multiple time championships which means his play warranted a mvp. Jokić stat padding does not lead to winning yet he still wins MVPs.

[@sebastiancovac7879]

@@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348 mvp is regular season award, not regular season + playoffs. also magic played with kareem and worthy. whos the best player jokic played with?

[@brandonsmith6520]

Jokic was the 6th seed last year and won because of his analytic numbers and now his case for winning is because his team is in first place, that is the moving goalpost that KP is alluding too. Doug is missing the point on purpose to defend his fav white players

[@stanislavstef]

nope... there's no "moving goalpost"... that's just desperation and futile attempt of Embiid/Giannis stans to create fake narratives and murky the waters. Jokic, again, has the BEST stats - basic and advanced (easy to check), PLUS he has 24 3Ds this season (and nuggets are 24:0 when he does that), PLUS Jokic is #1 in the west (5.5 cushion) this season. PLUS - Jokic already played 7 games more than Embiid and 6 more than Giannis. And so on... I suggest you go to basketball reference and check the stats... check the efficiency just for fun :) Also, check the defensive stats (especially steals+blocks+deflections) - you might be surprised. :)))))))) And most importantly - Jokic is the MOST COMPLETE basketball player in NBA history. While some others are YET to learn how to handle the ball, playmake, shoot, etc.

[@thetalents6507]

​@@stanislavstef the most complete player? He doesn't play defense like Giannis or certainly Embiid..stop the cap

[@stanislavstef]

@@thetalents6507 keep telling that to yourself... you might eventually believe it... In the meantime - check the steals+blocks+deflections, and advanced defensive stats... You might start rooting for Jokic.

[@christian9322]

He had 3 less wins than Embiid and Giannis with no Murray.

[@thetalents6507]

@@christian9322 was he the 6th or not? Now you moving the goal post.

[@Synoopy2]

And just to think this is before the First Take kerffufle with J.J Riddick.

[@eddiecoker4808]

As a rockets fan. Nash earned that 2nd mvp. He made his team ridiculously good that season. Destroyed us every time.

[@lultim8528]

Yeah as a Kobe fan I'm glad Nash never won a ring I don't even think that dude made a finals

[@lultim8528]

Them MVPs mean nothing cause Kobe has one and 5 rings 2 FMVP something Nash will never have

[@luckycarter536]

​@@lultim8528 those MVPs will always mean something. Give prime healthy Shaq to Nash's team, they'd have rings too.

[@lultim8528]

@@luckycarter536 that argument loses also because Kobe has 2 rings 2 FMVP without Shaq again something Nash could never do and they mean nothing to guys with rings and a MVP

[@luckycarter536]

@@lultim8528 again..give Nash Bynum, Odom, Gasol, Ariza or Artest plus their bench.

[@Ejr82u]

I think he knows basketball but he just there to pump up bron

[@dparks2856]

Not sure what Lebron has to do with this

[@DarinAtkins]

@@dparks2856 most of his ridiculous takes are revolved around Lebron

[@Ejr82u]

@@DarinAtkins thanks u lol

[@BIGJERSEY908]

​@DarinAtkins how is calling him the GOAT ridiculous?

[@Juntao1989]

@@BIGJERSEY908 lmfaooo it is though

[@fredmalone2466]

I don't believe Nash should've won 2 yrs in a row.... but I have no argument with big Dirk because he was killing that yr

[@BrandAccount-ec2rx]

best team and he did not have Amare he was injured the rest of team were scrubs you hate Nash because he is white just admit it.

[@fredmalone2466]

@BrandAccount get over the race bullshit I just believe he didn't deserve to win it especially 2 yrs in a row besides I already said Dirk deserve to win it and last I checked he was white.....go figure 🫡

[@BrandAccount-ec2rx]

@@fredmalone2466 yea you token in Dirk just like when people say "I am not racist I have one black friend" LOL You ain't fooling no one.

[@fredmalone2466]

@BrandAccount 🤦 God you are impossible to deal with.... ✌️✌️

[@scoop2448]

@@BrandAccount-ec2rx they were not the best team in 2006. they had 54 wins and were the 3 seed. Dirk had 60 wins

[@petiteverdot6673]

Doug is absolutely RIGHT! That is what happens when this new generation tweet first and do their homework later. The league has been very consistent as far as the mvp votings. 1987 season Magic won mvp with 19ppg and 11.9 asts. Who was 2nd?? MJ with 35ppg but his team was far behind. See how similar the numbers are to Kobe 35ppg and Nash 18ppg and 11 asts in 2006!!! Moreover why are we even debating Kobe vs Nash in 2006, when Kobe finished 4th in mvp voting. LeBron was 2nd and Dirk 3rd. So why is Perkins bringing up unfairness towards Kobe when they voted Lebron and Dirk even higher?? Go look it up. Oh and by the way I am not hating on Kobe, I actually believe he is the better than all of them! But Doug is absolutely right.

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

@ Petite Verdot, You comparisons to Magic beating MJ for mvp in 1987 is assine because Magic had won multiple championships while MJ was a perineal loser. In other words, Magic’s stat padding lead to championships while Jokić stat padding leads to a nothing Burger yet he’s about to be a 3 time mvp.

[@rangerscoach]

People pretending they don’t know what kobe who was innocent was going through at that time. Handing him the mvp trophy before all that played out was an impossibility

[@stonedecatur6602]

He has a point. Right after Larry Bird said, "we need more white NBA Stars" Steve Nash won back to back MVPs

[@BrandAccount-ec2rx]

Nash deserved those MVPs

[@soda8736]

That's not a bad thing. It's called marketing. That's what these black everything people don't understand .Who spends the most money going to games ? White people , so let's keep some white people in the mix, it's smart even in Football as well. These black everything people going to kill the golden goose complaining about MVPs from 25 years ago.. These sports leagues need white dollars, these idiots analyst should remember that once in while. NBA twitter people don't spend money..

[@BrandAccount-ec2rx]

@@soda8736 true also some Mexican players and Houston should always have at least one Chinese player LOL that will make the ratings go up

[@antonisgoudaras346]

U are so right! Nash is so underrated by black spokesmen on TV! He deserved the trophy over inefficient Kobe 1000%

[@arealone7863]

How many efficient titles does Steve Nash have? 🤣🤣 🤣

[@antonisgoudaras346]

@a real one he is one of the few players in nba history with 2 seasons of 50% fg 40% 3pt 90%ft.. if Nash had prime Shaq be sure that he would probably have some titles to show.. he almost got to the finals with average players like Shawn Marion and bad defenders like amare Stoudemire

[@soda8736]

Black analyst hate Nash now Jocich , Stephen A proved that by complaining about Nash getting the Brooklyn job with no experience blaming it on white privilege , but failed to mention the other 9 black coaches who also got head coaching jobs with no experience

[@nice1288]

The oochi walli/one mic reference is is it BS verse Nas did on oochi walli or is it one Mic where Nas went off 🤔

[@soda8736]

Actually it was a diss to Nas by Jayz , basically saying to Nas , are you conscious rapper or are you a misogynistic thug rapper. Which one is it ..

[@sebastiancovac7879]

@@soda8736 that song never gets brought up in jay z/nas beef. its usually take over vs ether, but that diss was much better and alluded to nas changing his style and gimmick from conscious street poet to thug/mafioso rapper.

[@soda8736]

@@sebastiancovac7879 yep. Correct.

[@alha7040]

I hope Jokic says he dont want that prize and embiid can take it or who ever really want it. Lets other people fighting about dat mvp title cos it seems the biggest thing in nba

[@dustinwroten353]

Perk wants Embid to win. Gee, are there any similarities between Perk and Embid?

[@bigroncoleman11]

No basketball similarities.....we can confirm that much 😂😂😂

[@dustinwroten353]

@@bigroncoleman11 Lmfao 😂

[@ajpierre]

Did Doug Gottlieb play professional basketball? 🤣🤣🤣

[@clipsedrag13]

No but we're lucky you did. Oh wait.

[@dustinwroten353]

Did Greg Popavich play pro ball?

[@rayleigh8]

@@dustinwroten353 no and if he weren’t cuddling the blax shananigans, he would be out of the job. Look what they did to Phil Jackson because Lefraud called him racist.

[@seancrockett8380]

@@rayleigh8 damn right my nigga Bron got power 💪

[@escobarrizzay3599]

Nope has been a failure at every level on sports tv and talk radio. So now he is trying to attack black players and black coaches. And go the racist route. See how that works out for him

[@Mr-pl5sv]

Was listening for JJ Reddick's take on Larry Bird...

[@krewcible3741]

Thank you Doug Gottlieb.

[@rrogers2370]

Jokic balling so I dunno what perk has to say about that. Now they point at Jokic not even making it to the finals...which should be put on him now.

[@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork]

I don’t think he deserves it the last 2 years, but this year surely he does. Giannis deserved it atleast 1 out of those first 2. It happens… it’s political!

[@eastsideleek313]

@@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork took the words right now my mouth. He definitely deserves this year. Last 2 years yeah idk

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

​​@@cashflodigitalsportsnetworkNot saying your wrong but the NBA MVP is a PER award and has been for the last 7 years. Whoever ends up with the highest PER wins it nowadays and it just happens to be jokic rn. I think a lot is being made out of nothing it's just the analytics nerds picking the advanced analytics as they always do now

[@jackjohnson1932]

Perk is saying he's not doing anything more this season then he did the last 2 seasons so why should he get another MVP and when he loses in the second round we will be having this same discussion next year

[@arealone7863]

They always talk about records wasn't joker the 6 seed last year and embid won the scoring title

[@ultimatewarrior7766]

It's never been changed...Steve Nash deserved it twice, especially in 2006

[@arealone7863]

He did not

[@Juntao1989]

Hell no

[@SuperSonic_868]

The suns won 29 games in 04 then shot up to 62 wins in 05 when Nash came back. He definitely deserved 05. 06? Meh.. that one should have probably gone to Kobe.

[@ultimatewarrior7766]

@@SuperSonic_868 06, Nash beat Kobe in the first round without Amare Stoudemire

[@SuperSonic_868]

@@ultimatewarrior7766 That's true and all, but I remember the mvp announcements back then coming out around the start of the playoffs. I want to say the voting was mostly just reg season but I could be wrong.

[@masterxxiv]

MVP award should go to the player who improves the team overall not the player with the best stat lines

[@Hutchingsonwest95]

Dirk and Jokic was 10 ten in scoring tied for tenth actually

[@judon4908]

Kobe deserved that MVP over Nash

[@Realblingking00]

We can forget about Russ averaging a trip for 4/5 but when Jokic do it it = 3 MVPs smh

[@dee-5297]

FACTS

[@richardrobin5837]

Are you serious? Westbrooks numbers didn't equate to winning. Jokic is a winner. Not the same at all

[@saynomoredontask6077]

U r dumb Russ was stat padding he dont care about winning No good teams want russ Russ is a liability Look at clippers russ can't do much Lebron couldnt wait to get russ out. Jokic is doing it to win and plays efficiently and his first criteria is to win

[@sebastiancovac7879]

giannis and harden had better seasons and were mvps those years, while jokic is arguably having one of the best 3 year runs in nba history.

[@jimmykeepingit100always6]

How does a company like ESPN think he’d be a good analyst

[@anteongoestill8068]

Amare was out that year with a injury

[@FinancesOnBitcoin]

Perk does have a point

[@TerrellMcDuffie]

Says an over opinionated guy who never made the NBA. Sounds good...but it doesn't make it true.

[@Jmw357]

About as valid as fans in KZbin comments that have never played in the nba or been around professional sports at all.

[@TerrellMcDuffie]

@@Jmw357 More valid than a "Captain Save A Gottlieb"...Your opinion much like your existence, is irrelevant.

[@gilt8121]

Don't make it wrong.... Come on perk is over. He's the dude that said the all star game was entertaining.... Wtf??? In perks Prime he would look at that and wreck fools playing that loose.

[@gregorypalmer4909]

Lol play in the NBA doesn’t mean everything. I hate Doug but he played high level basketball.

[@R-L-I]

So a personal attack because you don’t like Doug instead of putting up a valid counter argument? And I’m supposed to take you seriously? Ok 👍🏾

[@Prince_zacktv]

I agree with this

[@hatedstxney2271]

Perk aint lyin though

[@sumandsubstance7881]

Doug ain't lying tho

[@macalloway1]

That is a very odd coencidence that nash jokic and dirk were the only mvps that weren't top 10 in scoring in the past 30 years. Bizarre

[@boxeopremier]

Lol "Yugoslavian"

[@sgtthree]

I never heard Perk say they were not good. Also Nash was great but I remember how good Stoudemire was at that time as well. 18 pts should never win MVP. Bottom line.

[@jasonbibit]

Hmm… Bill Russell (RIP) never averaged more than 19 ppg in any season but he won MVP five times. The FG% and FT% were bad as well but the rebounding stats were crazy.

[@EH-ee3bm]

The same thing happened to Larry Bird when he was smoking these fools. THEY Don't take that very well

[@michaelfrandsen6195]

I agree with you Mr Gottlieb, just one think, Yugoslavia hadn't existed as a country for over 30 years, Jokic is from Serbia.

[@Axecarter91]

Jokic was also was a 6th seed last year which is why no one knows what the criteria is

[@escobarrizzay3599]

That's funny I was thinking exact same thing about you Doug Gottlieb. And how you try to always attack black players abd now fellow colleagues. Who does that never really seen another colleague disrespect another publicly

[@bankster3844]

I mean neither do you?

[@OgSweenyTBZ_YT]

I’ve been saying this for a while now Kendrick Perkins should not be allowed to analyze basketball on TV his takes are outlandish most of the time and he just says stuff for shock value.

[@kerhin]

Sometimes you have to walk in another man shoes to understand what he is talking about.

[@showtime2454]

He didn't lie about Kobe and Nash thou Kobe scored 81 points that year plus 40 points for 8 games and score 62 the night before he scored 81 and Nash wins the mvp and Nash beat out Shaq to

[@sebastiancovac7879]

its not only about scoring... that was the biggest criticism of kobe at that time = he only wanted to scorer and didnt try to make his teammates better.

[@ABlackMansJournal]

“Basketball dudes” lmao. I wish Doug would have the courage of his convictions and stop tip toeing around what he really wants to say. He never fails to provide unsolicited rebuttals to what black people feel about certain issues but does not substantiate his opposition with anything tangible besides saying their stance has no merit. Missing the point on purpose is quite cowardly.

[@seanwallace89]

This is what happens when you start with an opinion, and then you do research in an attempt to substantiate that opinion. It needs to go in reverse... do the research objectively, and allow your findings to determine your opinion.