The Alfa Romeo RZ Is One of the Strangest 1990s Sports Cars

[@supergashbell]

Doug: “I think the coupe actually looks…” Me: “better!” Doug: “worse!” Me: *Italian hand gesture*

[@toroseye]

same bruh

[@aalitros]

@@toroseye Agreed, the coupe is really cool.

[@isadorehackel6052]

I’d rather have the coupe for sure 😂

[@ezrarasendriya7913]

@@aalitros maybe cool is not the word

[@zackschilling4376]

I thought the coupe looked great! I dunno about this roadster though.

[@ahamsoueu]

I just LOVE the fact that a man in khaki shorts, weird socks and dad shoes is on a RANT about italian design...

[@quarthmeat1884]

Hey, what's wrong with khaki shorts? (I'm definitely not wearing khaki shorts right now btw)

[@ahamsoueu]

@@quarthmeat1884 I have no personal objection, but the Italian stylists would probably disapprove... you know, European stuff

[@sebastianmorales6849]

You forgot the double tshirt

[@ahamsoueu]

@@sebastianmorales6849 that was certainly a bonus! Doug likes his torso extra warm...

[@drink4711]

was about to make the same comment on Doug's khaki shorts. +1 for you

[@heliosdelsol]

The coup version actually looks pretty badass!

[@mains8913]

agree

[@designerminutes]

Totally

[@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor]

Totally !!!

[@felipeblauth14]

What a gorgeous machine... Just the coupe.

[@felipeblauth14]

The convertible has a prowler looking soft top.

[@ilmostro749]

I actually have an SZ coupe for the last 21 years. The reason the hot and cold heating controls are separate is that the cold does the AC. On a rainy day the windscreen mists up instantly, so you need the air conditioning on to suck the moisture out of the air, but some heat to keep you warm! BTW the SZ is way better looking IMO. Strangely the SZ and RZ shared almost no body panels in common. The SZ bonnet has fake vents on it, where the RZ is smooth, the front bumper is much lower to the ground, as are the side sills, and the RZ windscreen is smaller. @Doug DeMuro was wrong about the red / green shock buttons too - they are for the ride hight lift system - probably one of the first cars to have it, but essential on an SZ due to the ground clearance. It lifts all 4 corners and can be done whilst driving at any speed.

[@except10n]

Agreed. Doug apparently never grew up in 80s and 90s cars where you would turn up the heat and punch the Aircon to max to quickly defog the windshield. I guess it never gets foggy in California? The SZ and RZ were definitely prettier in their original design than in their execution. However, it also doesn't photograph well. You know that gorgeous girl you met once, and tried to take a photo of her, and they all came out wrong? That the SZ/RZ. The only way you can take a nice picture of the car, is by using a 50mmm human eye equivalent lens. Anything else, and it just bombs it.

[@Bonsai2680]

Man I am so jealous of you. I would LOVE to own an SZ

[@dppopov]

I also think that SZ looks waaaay better than RZ. One of my dream cars (alongside 2007 8C Competizione Coupé)

[@psions555]

Yeah he got the suspension wrong it's a raise and lower. I definitely think the coupe was the better looking car. I had an Alfa 146 which being a saloon was quite conventional but the 145 hatch had that same line running down the side. Hasn't aged well but was something different at the time for sure. The SZ is definitely in my dream garage

[@bodyloverz30]

@@except10n SFO yes, rest of CA no.

[@tayzonday]

This is the car Ken used to pick up Barbie because a Corvette is too sharp for kids.

[@brunoge26]

what’s up chocolate rain

[@yusufffff]

Perfect description

[@SiikPros]

Hi :)

[@worstofthebeast]

Gotta go eat chocolate now

[@ThierryBenz]

@@worstofthebeast I searched the entire Universe and still can’t find who asked

[@HOSTILEMANE]

i love when doug reviews weird cars instead of supercars and hypercars

[@Jens_Roadster]

I like it both haha.

[@nEvErLoOz]

It should be 100% of his content. Every single car channel starts with its own personality, thats why you subscribe, then as they grow in popularity they all start to review the same super and hypercar and all become the same.

[@kylegifford546]

@@nEvErLoOz He should make whatever he wants. He knows what he's doing. His hypercar reviews are still approachable.

[@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor]

SAME !!!

[@eeroerkintalo9858]

Doug makes these reviews special and interesting. It really does not matter what car he reviews

[@da_SpiffR]

The non-convertable version actually looks pretty interesting to me, at least from looking at the pictures of them...

[@trey-j7854]

ya its hella fire

[@Nickoboss29]

And it's called SZ

[@John_Hoover]

Definitely better looking than the convertible.

[@timu.6452]

Agreed looks way better.

[@boowiebear]

Love the non convertible version. Looks like it from the future still.

[@antonmarkov1635]

I wish car companies still experimented with cars like this.

[@matteofabbris7877]

They will again, once people will stop buying cars based on youtube videos

[@ilovekitkat7857]

Subaru did that with the Baja

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

I don't think so. Everything becomes more globalized, cars are bound to become more and more generic and appealing to the majority. Except super rare exotics maybe

[@Carlisho]

@@Art_Vandelay_Industries Yeah all people buy these days are Crossovers and SUVs

[@xalataf3365]

The only problem, when someone does so it’s ridiculed by everyone the Internet

[@brandonvo9727]

Doug: talking about the quirks inside the car… Me: staring at the car door moving back and forth

[@robertschnobert9090]

Why does it do that? Magnets? 🌈

[@felipeblauth14]

@@robertschnobert9090 Doug was shaking the hole car when he gesticulate, that's why!

[@bigchief9313]

@@felipeblauth14 huh

[@ccalvinn]

@@bigchief9313 gesticulate is movement/theatrics to accompany/emphasize what someone is saying, like doing the Italian hand meme when saying something is delicious.

[@bigchief9313]

@@ccalvinn oh I gotcha haha

[@57F100]

I love how doug has showed us more horn sounds on cars than exhaust sounds.

[@haroldflower8008]

exhaust videos are a dime a dozen, how many horn videos are there? thats what i thought

[@robertshea4652]

he only shows the exhaust if it is a nice sounding supercar or something, this probably just sounds normal

[@57F100]

@@robertshea4652 yeah, I know. Just funny to me.

[@ThatCarGuy2]

Ah, but i have shown you guys a lot more horns :)

[@baswalpot]

@@robertshea4652 I probably don't think so / beg to differ sir. The base of my theory is Doug's reviewed so many muscle- super- hyper- cars by now, he is getting a little bit exhaust note spoiled and/or exhausted (no pun intended). Watch this vid. to hear the note is definitely something to write home about... kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5uWfGmZqd6Gr7c

[@W92Baj]

I thouroughly disagree with Doug's view on the looks. This was a dream car back in the 90s and ahead of their time. Multiple small lights are something that is becoming popular now. I think Rowan Atkinson had one back in the day

[@harrisonjr98]

I think the coupe is beautiful. The convertible has some bad angles for sure.

[@justat1149]

Yeah, the coupe definitely looks much better than the cabrio

[@lonerider5315]

Same!! I was like Doug people prolly laugh at you the way you laughed at introducing it

[@dutchdrifter8740]

The SZ Was the one I prefered. It has always been stunning to me. Dispite the nicknam "il mostro"

[@joeljeffrey9139]

Beauty is subjective. But, this car is the ugliest design I've ever seen from Alfa Romeo.

[@homeboy144]

Caryoutubers:“carcompanies are boring-all cars look similar“ -Carcompany tries something different Caryoutubers:“oh its so ugly and nobody would do that at this era“ 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@homeboy144]

Also:“the owner is a designer and felt it is a special moment in history“ 😐

[@pootisspangle6636]

Basically most Americans in a nutshell.

[@StoicaVladIoan]

When they say that they're talking about the cars of today, not the ones before 2000.

[@liambassitt5919]

@@pootisspangle6636 chill bro who spilled your tea?

[@gregorsamsa1364]

People don't want different looking ugly cars. They want different looking attractive cars

[@bernardomotard]

As an European, the Citroen C6 is quirky even by European standards.

[@OtterlyInsane]

Only in modern terms, Citröens now are much more mainstream than their pre-90 counterparts

[@SwapBlogRU]

Citroen and SAAB - two manufacturers that went from very weird to very conventional.

[@grtbgf]

@@SwapBlogRU SAAB actually went from very weird to bankrupt

[@schattenmann825]

Here in Germany we have quite a lot of these C6's. And even the rare ugly SsangYong Rodius. Because it is so strange and ugly i call it a "Rhinoceros" lol. I would be very suprised if somebody has imported this "thing" to the US and Doug find it to test.

[@Sharp931]

@@grtbgf Maybe because GM is all about failures. Currently it's planned to restart the brand in some way.

[@Anomyzer24]

This car is like art, some people see it like a beautiful artwork, and some people really dont understant the design and thinks its ugly or its nonsense, for me its a unique beautiful car.

[@vinylrichiejr.2416]

Agree totally, but I think the coupe version is the really beautiful one, the roadster with the just looks too blocky to me, it needs the rounded rooftop to complete the design in my view

[@ConnorHammond]

@@vinylrichiejr.2416 Agreed. Topless is okay, but the hardtop... my dear lord.

[@diw9046]

It looks like 💩

[@vinex19]

I can't be alone in thinking this looks more interesting and more like a design statement, than basically almost every model of car for sale today at a similar price point.

[@GoldenCroc]

As far as I can recall, you are exactly right, that is what it was intended to be. A limited production halo car. A styling focused concept car for the road. In my eyes, it takes the blocky, brutal-ish styling of the early 1980s cars such as the Audi coupe quattro and turns it up to 11. You like square fender flares?, Well here is an entire car as a square fender flare! You like 2 smallish-rectangular headlights? Here is 3 of them!

[@angeloambrosio1721]

This had so much potential, but it's like a bunch of prototypes merged together and sold The headlights and some other details are so good but why tf is this car so squary and tall it's supposed to be a convertible coupe With softer lines and a lower body this would be nuts

[@benparfittvideo]

I've tried to resist but I can't help it - I love this bizarre thing!

[@_Sree_Hari_918]

Let's accept the fact that this guy never clickbaited us

[@rickjames9507]

Accepted and respected

[@junaidzaka2365]

He did it with the Tesla Model X review.

[@Charlie-Charlot]

@@junaidzaka2365 darn it !

[@henrickhansel]

Laughs in : _Here's Why the Tesla Model X Is an Awful Car_

[@joedirt7716]

Doug never clicked us lol

[@earlbonham90]

Doug has achieved the ultimate Dad status: the Fire Department t-shirt

[@jacobfowler8795]

He’s missing the baseball hat supporting his kids little league team

[@boatymcboatface666]

He also seems to wear alot of Kiwi ts too😃

[@henrickhansel]

Yea...he really needs someone to teach him how to dress properly.

[@kitsachie.]

@@henrickhansel he dresses like a middle school kid and I love it

[@henrickhansel]

@@kitsachie. I don't 😂😂

[@jamesterakazis6624]

The SZ is absolutely STUNNING....the RZ looks like a bathtub....

[@angus20715]

I saw an SZ before and I absolutely loved it, RZ not so much.

[@jamesterakazis6624]

@@angus20715 DOUG HAS BECOME AN ABSOLUTE TOOL

[@JYMAHJAMES]

but they look the same...? 💀

[@chrisperry2922]

6:11 "Door Cylinder"...Huh???

[@jamesterakazis6624]

@@JYMAHJAMES The Coupe is AMAZING....Futuristic and IN YOUR FACE DAWG !!!

[@taltigolt]

i honestly love the design of this car

[@AnalogDude_]

yeah, the frontal facia is awesome, accept the waste line above the rear tires, to much.

[@mkjk2534]

The front looks weird, but interesting - I kind of like it. The rest of this car on the other hand… What were they thinking?

[@ami_269]

same. maybe not "love love" the desin but I don't mind it at all. Smart look in my opinion.

[@grimmstarkk5795]

Same here It looks weirdly cool

[@1965kitti]

I agree with you absolutely Very good looking car

[@joedimaggio9444]

As Alfa Romeo driver, I was always amazed to see Doug fascinated by leather cases for the owner’s manual and by aluminium door sills. That is standard for us, even in a Mito!

[@F1jones]

@@LRS905 when you say "good" are you referring to the ridiculous vehicle reviewed in this video? Who knew leather bound manuals that don't explain what the car does (not much, as it turns out) made for a good car.

[@mjouwbuis]

@@F1jones You might want to look into the features and purpose of the vehicle before taking Doug at his word.

[@F1jones]

@@mjouwbuis where did I mention what Doug said, other than re: the manuals? As someone who's owned a few sports cars, I know what this car's purpose is, as I have for decades. But in accordance to what *I* said, it does none of it well and it's a pile of shit to look at. If this thing weren't red and had come from Korea, no one would be trying to make excuses for it. But as always, thanks for the non-informative post with zero argument provided.

[@seangannon6081]

When I was a teenager I had three Explorers, a ‘94, ‘95, and a ‘96, and they all had leather cases for the manuals. They even had zippers and a few business card slots. Score one for America.

[@beastlymclaren4631]

Finally we get this review. He filmed it back in October 2020

[@yusufffff]

Damn then I guess he's saving the EB110 for dougcember

[@beastlymclaren4631]

@Just Mingled he posted the pic of this car on his IG back in 2020

[@JongiB96]

Doug throughout the video : Ugly car Me at every single angle : BELLISSIMO! 🤌🤌🤌🤌

[@varolussalsanclar1163]

This thing looks a like a small chapel in an Italian village, and its absolutely beautiful.

[@Art_Vandelay_Industries]

Great comparison

[@liveShit]

It looks awful.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

The "cold" dial is "intensity of the air conditioning compressor". Most vehicles let you have the AC compressor on with heat (to defog/defrost windows, for example.) But most cars only have "AC compressor on or off", a few have "Normal AC or MAX AC". This is the only vehicle I've ever seen that lets you dial in the PRECISE amount of AC compressor you want. So yeah, heat+cold at max would mean "give me hot dehumidified air".

[@LITTEULCEVENN]

But isn't max heat + max cold what you want to defrost the windows? That's not what the drawing says

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

@@LITTEULCEVENN It should be. Which makes that an odd choice.

[@xg5zm]

Yes you have it in exotic cars like the Mercedes 190 🙄

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

@@xg5zm When did I say "exotic". 1980s Mercedes aren't exactly "common" cars, either. If it were universal across Mercedes lineup for multiple decades, maybe.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

@@yungboicontigo9278 For me, it's a little bit of "A", a little bit of "B". I owned an old Audi that had similar - except they were both sliders rather than dials.. I only ever put the AC slider in either "full on" or "full off" (didn't help that by the time I owned it, it was ~20 years old and the AC just *BARELY* worked on "full on".)

[@simonomisimonomis]

Doug DeMuro: The ford excursion's owners manual shows a steering wheel differerent than the one the vehicle has Also Doug DeMuro: The RZ's owners manual and leather pouch was specific to these 250 cars ever made, what a questionable decision

[@5oldato]

Facts

[@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4]

Hes like a girl on a period 🤣

[@aeonjoey3d]

XD only fans can love this about him haha

[@dparag14]

Could've just used google translate, just saying.

[@oddballskull1941]

@@aeonjoey3d actually it annoys the living piss out of me

[@maddoctor99]

Doug: these individual front headlights look odd. Bugatti: let’s use that idea on the Chiron.

[@ponjebach]

I owe you a beer for this.

[@CuoreSportivo]

google alfa 159

[@Dino2054]

@@CuoreSportivo i have alfa 159 and bugatti chiron definitely looks very similar to alfa

[@icanrunat3200mhz]

@@Dino2054 you can tell ladies at the pub that you basically drive a Bugatti.

[@Dino2054]

@@icanrunat3200mhz hahah I can't. They know for alfa. It's very common in my country 😂

[@bridego]

The BUSSO engine is one of the best V6 made in the entire world. Sounds fantastic !

[@alexprice4229]

They were stuck in the 80's Doug. That center arm rest folds down to reveal a perfect stainless steel booger sugar tray. Maybe the best design feature.

[@cannabinized]

You can tell Doug wasn't one of the cooler kids in highschool

[@milesfann33]

I had this car as a hot wheels car as a child. I never thought I'd see a real one... thanks to Doug... now I have!

[@TheQuirkyGarage1999]

its a matchbox

[@blank6521]

This looks a lot like those body kits of Ferraris for Pontiac fieros

[@tony_5156]

Yeah lol it’s hideous

[@buzomatic]

I liked Fieros soo much until I took a ride in one. Off roading in a go kart was like a silver shadow compared to it.

[@urischwartz6711]

I like Doug's videos, but it saddens me that he doesn't do enough homework beforehand. The SZ/RZ was based on the Type 116 ALFETTA floor pan, a platform that existed from 1972 with the introduction of the Alfetta Sedan, until 1993 when production of the derived 75/Milano ceased. NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of the genial 50/50 weight distribution of this chassis with the rear Transaxle layout, the rear De-Dion suspension system which was perfected by alfa for this car with self-adjusting hydraulic shocks, the rear in-board brakes and composite materials used for the bodywork in this car when mostly top-end exotics had them. It's really too bad, ranting on so much about this car and not mentioning ANYTHING of the above, of a car that was considered at the time a sort of mini-super-car, bad looks or not.

[@djremotion2]

Doug is clueless.

[@rustler08]

That's because that's not what Doug does. He doesn't ever go in-depth on chassis analysis.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

for Doug EVERYTHING that on a car si different from a Honda Civic, is unbelievably weird.

[@Lanciarules]

He basically knows nothing about cars but he became rich thanks to our punctualization below his videos...

[@richardmcgowan460]

If Doug went in depth with a car inside out you think people would be interested? Get real people only care what's in general not In depth unless you're a mechanic or something.

[@philtrease]

I personally think Doug is being a bit harsh on the looks. To me the SZ and (to a lesser extent) the RZ are brutalist design statements, with road presence unlike any other car. You really have to see one to appreciate them, as they don't seem to photograph well. With only around 1000 SZs and 250 RZs ever made, the likelihood of that is relatively slim.

[@krishpanzade7109]

I mean he's right tho, alfas tend to be beautiful and eye catching but this one is eye catching in all the wrong ways. It looks like a cube and a wedge hybrid that objectively is quite ugly.

[@slchance8839]

"brutalist design" well said.

[@missingremote4388]

While I was stationed in italy. had the chance to one more in person. The SZ ; New: in the alfa showroom. It was expensive in 1993. Myself I drove a Chevy -geo storm, then bought a Lada Nova 4X4 The Alfa dealership is still there "Reginauto slr". sells Jeep now And I'm happy to be back in the USA

[@stevemonkey6666]

Doug's impending fit of laughter makes him seem like he's high on something

[@johnnymichael1804]

High on life, son.

[@poutinegod2564]

@@johnnymichael1804 not surprising, he’s living his dream.

[@PasleyAviationPhotography]

It's what makes him so personable, not just reading stats in a monotone voice

[@natearb]

Sounds like a wheeze lol

[@thecianinator]

He's on a drug called Drug DeMuro

[@ThePeanutGiant]

The coupe is gorgeous damn.

[@studiocalder818]

I've owned one for 21 years and I think it's a fantastic car, definitely the most "tailor-made" to drive besides all the cars I've owned/driven. At the time I was about to wear a black RZ, then I chose the SZ because it represented the original idea of ​​the project. I am totally satisfied, I will never sell it; I will share it with my son, who is 14 and is already waiting for the moment 😉

[@jacknuttall13]

I can’t wait for the Citroen c6

[@Jens_Roadster]

I can't wait for all 6 cars. Even though i am from the Netherlands, those cars are pretty rare here too. 🙂

[@Jens_Roadster]

For people who don't know, there are 5 other European cars: Citroën C6, Renault Clio V6, Fiat Multipla ( yes, the ugly one ) Volkswagen XL1 and i forgot the 2 other ones. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MCTogs]

Nah the Fiat Multipla is where it's at

[@BoopdaBeep]

Doug is such a tease. We still haven't yet seen reviews for the EB110, Jimny, etc

[@bob19777]

Just remember he just posted the FF video after 11 months (if im not mistaken) so just wait that will eventually be posted

[@carstenweiland7896]

The partypiece of the SZ Coupé was the cornering speed, they claimed that they created enough downforce and that that enabled the car to build up to 1.3G and if that would be true it would have been phenomenal in the 1990's and would have beaten any supercar in cornering speed back then!

[@chucku00]

Alfa specs : 1.1 G lateral, measured at 1.4 G by some drivers. But it's a walk in the park for a Citroën Xantia Activa : kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmqQdGZpiNd9n5o

[@Kalvinjj]

@@chucku00 Holly hell that's (almost) race car tier...

[@chucku00]

@@Kalvinjj Yep, the Ferrari behind looks like a rolling boat.

[@carstenweiland7896]

@@chucku00 Got a C6 so I know about the Xantia! Hydropneumatics are the best!

[@carstenweiland7896]

@@chucku00 Got a C6 so I know about the Xantia! Hydropneumatics are the best!

[@Neutralino]

Unpopular opinion - I've always liked the styling of these, especially the SZ

[@sjf1981]

I think they look good too

[@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor]

Same

[@thatnicklongo5939]

Same, in Forza Horizon 3 I absolutely loved this car and drove it all the time

[@diego432hz]

Me too bro. Also it looks like nothing else and aged incredibly well

[@CordovaMage]

I think it is less you like the design and more you are just attracted to unusual looking cars that would make you stand out. There are plenty of people like that.

[@Flopsaurus]

"Let's start with opening the hood, which is a little bit weird." Proceeds to open the hood like every normal front engine car.

[@ileutur6863]

Doug has gotten so good at ass-kissing empty word writing that he presents completely normal car features as quirks. He really needs to tone down the fake hype over every single thing

[@emmcee476]

​@@russolson8405guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought

[@emmcee476]

@@russolson8405 you replied to someone that the hood prop placement was weird, not the actual opening the hood. It was obvious to me too that Doug was talking about the prop

[@samuelthompson2605]

Maria "Josepe, itsa raining! Putta the roof back uppa!" Josepe, "Statazit, statazit!! I gotta pull over!" He pulls over, has to get out, hit the move the seat forward, hit the button, open the rear and go through all the steps whilst they get soaked by the downpour.

[@bricksbeersbeards9368]

...and then, once the roof is finally up, its stopped raining!

[@bricktop2603]

🗣🤌🤌

[@betterbeavailable]

That was pretty funny.

[@eziomarzolla1033]

Giuseppe not Josepe

[@IvoTrausch]

I can't see what you're on about, it's a perfectly logical and sensible top mechanism

[@maybenodyarg]

Doug: "The roof takes like 2 and a half minutes to put up or down!" Also Doug: **Talks about the roof process for 5 minutes**

[@robertschnobert9090]

That's why I'm here haha 🌈

[@worstofthebeast]

I'm actually tired of this. :( Saw every single video of him since the day one maybe that's why. He's getting douger I guess.

[@nyckae8587]

Well how would you operate the roof without understanding how it works? Like...

[@asifrahman7557]

"Alfa romeo is like a human being. It has flaws but that's the beauty of it" - Clarkson Aka my dad

[@WraithW9]

Such a wise man

[@phil_zupra_b5880]

Aka my uncle

[@nickpednekar5312]

It should be the other way around 😂 my dad aka Clarkson, adding aka my dad would be redundant.

[@guyl9208]

So the beauty of this car is that its ugly?

[@STFDVC1]

He mastered this by the Bentley - driving Monk in Japan in the early days of Top Gear

[@moparguy1995]

I love how Doug’s intensity during the review makes the door shake the more enthusiastic he is about describing something

[@utubeisCensorred]

"Modern Cars... they all look like an electric shaver" - Marv from sin city.

[@ohbromo]

I’ve been randomly thinking of this quote over the past few weeks. Weird lol

[@marcorecchia2940]

‘Electric shaver’ 😂🤣 so true!

[@Claro1993]

You miss a quirk, the fuel filler: The cover isn’t locked and piece of leather flap integrated to protect the bodywork while filling the car.

[@FRITZI999]

common on old 911 Porsches..... no quirk, call it engineering at it´s best!

[@DougDeMuro]

Most Italian cars from this era were like this, but it is indeed quirky I agree.

[@venkatmaddipoti407]

@@DougDeMuro woah, a Doug DeReply in the comments?

[@jacknuttall13]

This is the first evidence that Doug is a human being

[@watershed44]

@@jacknuttall13 I'm not buying it, I believe that HAL9000 is his father, and Dr. Langley his Grandfather LOL

[@jawalczak]

Doug calling this car ugly: Italians: You've Mamma'd your last Mia.

[@nickb638]

He's bippitty'd his last boppity.

[@YETICOPTER]

this car looks like the design was approved by one subborn old Italian at Alfa who was like "it's bold! it's new! This is the car of the future!" and everyone just went along with it because no one wanted to get fired

[@Sharp931]

The same design choices came back with Spyder and 157. 😂

[@MrSkyline11]

Probably cause he is from us, they only love suv and pick up which are sooo pretty :D

[@domenicodipippo1957]

Nah I can confirm, it’s an horrendous monstrosity, not what you would typically expect from Alfa and Zagato.

[@except10n]

Okay, I love you Doug, but I feel the point of this car is kinda missed. Also, it was mostly designed by the Fiat department, not the Alfa department, to make it even weirder. First, the SZ and RZ are based on the GTV6 platform. Same platform the 75/Milano V6 was based on eventually. This platform is revered for its genius handling, engine, weight distribution, and passionate driving character. That platform went on to win many races across touring and rally cars. Even today, you go to the Neurenberg Ring in Germany, one of the preferred cars to race there is the 75. The reason nobody talks about the SZ and RZ's great driving and handling is because, well, that is because the GTV6 and 75 were already famous for it, so why talk about a given? The SZ/RZ were a promotional vehicle, as brands often do, with a high price markup, intended to provide 'attention' to the brand. Just as is done with making small production run homogenized racing cars. It was never intended to be a 'serious' production model. More like a prototype in a limited production run, using an existing platform. And this shows. It was intended to be a bit of a showpiece, which improved and extended on the handling of the GTV6 in a unique and exclusive 'extra' model. That's also why it's made out of plastic instead of metal, to save weight. Also, not very successful, and the body part fitting is, because of this, awful. It's also the reason a lot of the other features on the car are what they are. It's basically a retrofit of an existing platform, purely meant for driving pleasure. Its target audience was people that would take it to the track every now and then. Or at least, use the (italian) roads that way. But, it did what it was intended to do, the SZ and RZ are a blast to drive. Just like the GTV6 is, but even lighter (the GTV6 is already pretty light). When you see the design drawings of the car, it actually looks pretty neat. I wouldn't say pretty, but cool and agressive, like an attack dog. But because they used plastic as a body material, the edges were all rounded off, completely botching that razor sharp look, into a like a fisher-price toy car bulky mess. So yes, now agreed entirely on par that the car seems to have been the result of a drunken design bet by the design team, and somehow the intern won. From the origin design , you can see clear styling cues there originating from Giugiaro, with the Delorean and the '80s, VW Sirocco, and taking the 'truncated butt' style to the max (which was an aerodynamics feature at the time), but it all comes together very oddly with that plastic. But it did stand out. And it does go like stink around corners. Like most Alfa's, that genius platform works magic when you are through windy roads or on the track. Long straight roads with traffic lights? Not going to shine there. Experience? Driving a GTV6 from NY to San Francisco and back. Much better at home in the hilly curvy roads of Tuscany.

[@20rvd02]

Wow! I always learn something here! Well done, Tom!

[@studiocalder818]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5uWfGmZqd6Gr7c >vere in action To tell the truth, the founding idea of ​​the design is the work of Robert Opron (the father of Citroën Maserati). The car was a concentrate of experimental and record ideas. For example the shorter time from deliberation to production (the tests were conducted by making Alfa 75 imsa compete and win in the Giro d'Italia, which were actually SZ in disguise), the body was not a symple plastic body, but in MODAR, a material that, contrary to glass fiber, could be printed with variable thickness. The headlights were experimental Carello (and the nose today gave rise to the Tonale), many elements (for example the wing) were in carbon fiber (!). At 250 km / h the car is completely neutral and can be driven with 2 fingers. It is a car t o t a l l y o r i e n t e d towards the driver and his driving pleasure

[@zollotech]

Definitely an odd car…Also, the google translate app using the camera will translate most languages on the fly to your preferred language. In case this happens again. 😀

[@roddydykes7053]

Not only was Doug’s solution to consult the owners manual, he consulted an Italian friend when he couldn’t read it. He’s gonna be blown away when he hears about the *Internet*

[@BaldMancTwat]

Or the Google Lense app.

[@TechWizMaster]

@@roddydykes7053 LOL so true

[@edwindyap1616]

@@roddydykes7053 Actually he didnt even need to read it, the pictures is obviously there showing how to do it step by step, dont need to understand any language Monkey see monkey do

[@definitelynotjasonmomoa]

@@edwindyap1616 "the pictureS IS obviously there??" too bad it wasn't an elementary school grammar workbook, although I realize that it would be JUST AS INDECIPHERABLE TO YOU as the owner's manual was to Doug.

[@QuakeGamerROTMG]

Really doesn't look that bad and definitely gets points for being unique

[@HereIsMyOffer]

Its really grown on me over the years!

[@yae7467]

facts i kinda like it 😂😂

[@enforcement2]

I acknowledge that there seem to be some tricky angles and especially that there is something kind of laughable about this roadster's installed roof. In its standard version, however, there is a strange wholesomeness where the microwaved toy car appearance also becomes kind of menacing!

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[@list3058]

Yes, "Quake", we know you have an opinion.

[@ShadowAkatora]

"How about we put some wheels on a box?"

[@franciscorodrigues1688]

I LOVE THIS CAR even with all the quirks. the design is amazing !

[@mistakitty]

The RZ feels like a concept car that accidentally got sold to the public.

[@redmr2na]

Exactly. Love your picture by the way

[@GiampietroDiSanto]

Not accidentally, but on purpose. SZ, from which this convertible comes from, was an actual prototype they decided to put into production. And most of the solutions for the car were way ahead for the time and were later on adopted by other constructors.

[@theoriginalshew]

"All cars in history with folding seats have the release on the outside of the seat" The Fiat 500 Abarth doesn't. Doug even reviewed the car. Must be an Italian thing.

[@darrenswails]

Nissan versa also....although after this era...

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Gotta disagree re: the coupe version. I think it's very cool.

[@stephenlewis9159]

Doug missed a coupe version which was parked on the street in London near Victoria station when he was there.

[@hondas6463]

Me too

[@SuperDavy91]

I agree with you guys, boy is Doug like this car is fugly aha. I really like the design.

[@alkinooskrideras]

Hey I have been researching Alfa in general and I found out that the trunk area is supposed to be behind the front seats, that’s why the center piece with the speaker folds to give you access, fun fact the SZ had no way to access the huge trunk but the front seats

[@Briggleton]

Or you can access it through the top lid with the roof up. Looks like there's tons of storage in that area with the roof up

[@darwinrover]

“200 hp not a lot” Mustang of the same era with a 5l V8 had 200hp

[@andies9817]

this has actually 210, Doug has some wrong infoes here.. also damper thing he said was wrong, it has adjustable ride height.

[@janmeyer9685]

@@yungboicontigo9278 He literally stated some facts that Doug was wrong on something. One can reasonably expect an automotive youtuber to be factually correct, that had nothing to do with hate. And saying we can't criticize because we have no channel is like me telling you not to criticize politicians or athletes because you don't do what they do. Just accept normal criticism and be an adult.

[@DoomFinger511]

And that's why mustangs from that era, which were even heavier, also sucked.

[@DjStiv3]

Yeah people forget. 200 early 90s was an insane amount. Friggin civic Si and vw GTI eveb in 2000 2010 or so still barely had 200hp and even TODAY. I think Si has 205 and gti 220. The brz/frs has 200 or 205. Like wtf lol. I cant think of many that can compete for that time in similar hp range or probably price as well. Except the mitsubishi eclipse gst/gsx and of course mustang too.

[@jimcanterak7349]

Americans don't understand basic common sense.

[@Teddingtin]

I actually really like they way this car looks. I've always been a fan of "blocky" designs.

[@RamiroMagan]

If you've ever seen an alfa sz in person you would never say it's ugly. There was one close to my home growing up, I had no idea what it was, but I was fascinated by it. Years latter I found out how rare the car was.

[@TheFatAndTheFurious]

Agreed, it's VERY cool, I especially LOVE the front, and at the back, the bar light styling is futuristic and classic at the same time, only Porsche 911 did it better.

[@SalemTechsperts]

Doug! The Google Translate app lets you use the camera to translate in real-time. Super helpful for these quirky situations 😂

[@colinmartin9797]

Fun stupid fact : The first generation "new" mini has its seat folding lever and lumbar controls on the inside as well. Also, if letters are raised up, they're "embossed". If they're depressed in the material, they're "debossed"

[@57F100]

Good to know

[@tac0majas0n]

THANKS

[@2006gtobob]

This revelation changes EVERYTHING!!!

[@jaybird0312]

My first thought when he said that was "... what's the opppsite?..." lol

[@reekinhavok420]

The 2006 ones do too same thing not just the new ones my moms got one lol

[@SosaKinkos]

“Cloverleaf for back in their racing days” They have an f1 team Doug. Come on man

[@sasharatkovic4423]

Nope, that is Sauber team.

[@curleypubes3672]

What are you? Joe Biden?

[@davidb6576]

@@curleypubes3672 In fairness, even Sosa would be a great upgrade from the previous "president", so even if he's not Joe B. I'd vote for him.

[@ponjebach]

And the Best Saloon Giulia qv.

[@One_over_the_eight]

@@sasharatkovic4423 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Quadrifoglio

[@dr_skipwith]

This is one of the most terrible looking cars I've ever seen in my entire life. I need one.

[@MMM18092]

To park next to your Fiat Multipla.

[@ProjectEurobeat]

@@MMM18092 lol

[@olereinhold7638]

Looks like the disabled brother of the dodge challenger

[@jacksonlaframboise6257]

@@yungboicontigo9278 I thought that. But I feel like it might actually be pretty aerodynamic. Like, there is no way inset rear wheels was a whoopsies. And upon googling it, it’s got a lower drag coefficient than a Bugatti Chiron and better handling than a viper. This thing is mental.

[@igorR061]

@@yungboicontigo9278 Exactly, I was reading the comments to see if I´m the only one with this impression.

[@simonelliott5956]

Doug, you’re missing a couple of vital bits of history on this car. Firstly it is based on the 75 or Milano as it was called in the USA. At the time it was designed in the ‘80’s, it was one of the quickest realisations of design to production and used composite materials that were not widely available at the time, especially in it’s class. Also in the UK at least, there was a specialist that took the Busso engine out to 3.5 litres and produced the car that Alfa always should have. I was lucky enough to work with them on the conversion of one to right hand drive, possibly the only one ever done. They all featured a De Dion transaxle with the gearbox over the back axle and inboard brakes, much like the 75/Milano, but they had coil-over dampers at the front rather than torsion bars, like the DTM touring cars. If you drove the 3.5 you would have a different opinion of this car, as with more power it was fabulous. When set up right and under hard acceleration, these had so much traction that virtually nothing could leave the line as quick, without 4 wheel drive.

[@studiocalder818]

Bravo. Thank you

[@simonelliott5956]

@@studiocalder818 You clearly know your cars :-) I have had many Alfas, but my favourite by far was the 75 Veloce, which had similar modifications to an SZ, it was a true drivers car.

[@gtv6sam]

Yeah he kind of dropped the ball on this one. SHAME!

[@bxl1121]

It has one of the best engines ever made. Busso V6

[@Brianuuuu]

A car with a look thats equally iconic as the white sleeve of doug's inner shirt racing against his outer shirt

[@Dasher498]

Doug's the type of guy that wears his name tag after work.

[@glennlindamood]

I like it! It looks like a "Concept Car" come to life! Usually you only see something like this at a car show! Kudos to Alfa for actually making these available to the public!

[@Leon-Vet]

It started within Alfa Romeo as project ES30 for ‘experimental sport’ so it’s really a concept car that made production

[@agtshaw]

THE CONVERTIBLE MUSIC IS BACK YES

[@drazenivanda9514]

The SZ is even crazier, maybe the most beautiful car I've ever seen live. You just can't stop looking at in awe..

[@jonathanharris5535]

Doug is a philistine. The famous ‘il Mostro’. Italian design classic, and utterly timeless. That’s why values are where they are

[@goncaloterrivel1]

Pardon the almost racist comment...but...he's a millennial...and even worse...an American millenial...do you think he would find this work of art beautiful? Philistine indeed!!

[@Terrible_Pirate]

I honestly think the coupe version of this car looks fantastic and I would love the own one... of course not as a main, daily driver that is.

[@Gabriell0684]

The SZ was pretty much a design concept, and you can see the influence in other models, so no wonder it is far from being conventional or practical.

[@jimroni8001]

I think the coupe actually looks better in my opinion

[@CHolmes]

The styling may be weird but I love it and would definitely pay $100k for one of these.

[@6AL-4V]

Doug, the kind of guy with such aggressive hand mannerisms while speaking that the whole car rocks back and forth.

[@SjaanMende]

Finally an Alfa Romeo again. Your videos from the Stelvio where also very awesome. Could you please review the Alfa Romeo Giulia some more in-dept please? I know you did a review of it a couple years ago, but back then you didn't go as in-dept as you do now. Would be great!

[@leonardo3689]

I hope he reviews the GTAm

[@5oldato]

Or a Spider or some other Alfa Romeos from the era before they left the north american market He had a 164 on cars & bids not too long ago!

[@kashi2000]

i like the front end design to be honest. the lighting set up is cool, there's potential

[@studiocalder818]

The new Tonale takes inspiration from the SZ ...

[@netweed09]

Erm,, it's a museum piece now so what 'potential'? 😂

[@Trija204]

@@studiocalder818 yeah true, the Alfa Romeo 156 and 159 also had headlights with the same setup as the SZ

[@yuripeeters4226]

Love these cars. Lucky enough to own one, and personally I love the styling.

[@jackgreenstalk777]

not trying to be a dick.. but looks aside (many feels its super ugly) it seems highly impractical. no trunk, awkward roof function, underpowered relatively.. I don't get it really

[@farewell_to_normalcy9352]

😂 ^^ Straight savage

[@yuripeeters4226]

If you are willing to travel top up, you can actually carry quite a bit. Then dump it in the hotel, and let the fun begin... it is a compromise, but I'll take it.

[@kepakpl]

9:25 Yes this is high quaility for Alfa Romeo standard, the electronic roof would break sometime around 1999.

[@catalinbarbu9136]

I feel like Doug has lost the plot on the RZ.

[@andrewlana4541]

The SZ is actually pretty sick, dunno how they went so, so wrong with RZ

[@kenny4906]

When Alfa Romeo designs then it will be a disaster.

[@cmarko964]

It's weird that Doug isn't in love with this car. He loves weird, unusual and very quirky cars and this is exactly it. Strange.

[@bonzobonanza]

I think Doug loves this car. He seems more energetic when he reviews weird cars like this.

[@oddballskull1941]

Dude judges cars solely on his mood that day..

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

"An American man in shorts and sneakers rants about exclusive Italian design for 28 minutes"

[@ali106550]

I actually like the look if this car , the coup looks even better .

[@twilightsuzuka6252]

This car had a cornering speed of 1.4g, better than many modern supercars.

[@jlcii]

Respect 🙌

[@dkdanis1340]

Some drivers claimed that. I haven't seen videos showing 1.4g. Plus there's other aspects that make car fast.

[@dukinse5198]

Omg...

[@rustler08]

No, it doesn't. The only thing on the subject that can be found is "it's said that" and not a single one of them can link to an actual test of the car where they achieved that. Fun fact: when you have no true tests, that means the number is meaningless.

[@everettmcburnett7853]

1.4 .. really . Like a Miata an inch of the ground with spacers and triple R's . I'll Google it.

[@24bergman]

Maybe it’s just nostalgia but I like it.

[@eduazy]

I absolutely love how it looks, maybe I have shit taste but I would drive one if I could

[@philipfinken7951]

Some more comments. The SZ and RZ were based on the 75, the last “real” Alfa after take over by Fiat. This implies RWD and transaxle technology. The release of the trunk is normal for Alfa’s, my Spider series 3 from 1987 has the same. The busso engine is a V6 delight. Pricing back at the days was ridiculous though.

[@babbo1218]

I’ve got a 75 V6 cloverleaf and absolutely love it

[@Martin-kc1xj]

Isn't the folding middle panel to access this "storage" area? Seems like intended storage space and access to me.

[@Enny_Gima]

Whatever it is, it was not fully developed before putting the car on the market

[@Gordanovich02]

I was thinking the same. Put the roof up and you could probably slide a couple of suitcases in there, enough for a long weekend at least. Drive up to the Lakes, park your luggage in the hotel, then you can drop the roof for day trips.

[@IndiBrony]

Calling the RZ ugly? A'ight, imma take that personally. RZ is a gorgeous car: change my mind!

[@pasquale78]

Agreed!

[@Justca11me_B]

I'm a 90s guy, this car is beautiful... Even the rear end somehow 😆 But the convertible is the best looking!

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, buti find it hard to compare this to a jaguar e type for beauty

[@camaro27189]

Shut up, Rainbow Dash. There are no cars in your world.

[@IanDunbar1]

I think the SZ is better looking, but otherwise I agree.

[@Nico89Cani]

Alfa Romeo being Alfa Romeo.. i love it. One of the best cars brands of the history. The Alfa Romeo 159 is one the most sensual cars ever made. Sober, sensual and agressive.

[@alessiocarlevaro6934]

If you find this car interesting you should see Davide Cironi's review of the SZ version.

[@syedmustafa3145]

Scientists: a perpetual motion machine doesn't exi- Alfa: The wobbly door at 6:27

[@JaegerZ3]

"The valve stem caps have the Alfa Romeo clover" Errrr.... these were probably purchased at a gas station Doug

[@Johnathan_Waters]

Amazon lol

[@AsurasWrath164]

No, definitely not. They're original!

[@ilmostro749]

There are after market - the originals are just chromed

[@RolfSAMA]

This used to be my No.1 fav Matchbox (/Majorette) to drive around the carpet back in the 90's ❤ :)

[@sagnikdey4880]

This car has an interesting design!

[@dgray5240]

I must be weird but I genuinely think this is one of the most beautiful cars ever made. I remember seeing one as a child and I've wanted one ever since. This review hasn't changed my mind. Thanks Doug.

[@justyaya374]

OMG YEEEES DOUG IS GONNA REVIEW A CITROËN C6

[@20rvd02]

He did the CX so of course he has to the C6 maybe with an XM in between!

[@bryanleal1475]

"buggati Chiron vibe" he totally forgets this came out first!!! GOD DAMN IT DOUG