Ugliest Car Ever: but The Alfa Romeo SZ has Formula 1 DNA! | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 14

[@cyrusthevirus1451]

Sincerely, Jason's "Revelations" series is some of the best automotive content that exists right now

[@Kdubzlovescars]

Anything Jason’s in charge of is the best out there

[@nikita_kozlov]

Totally agree. A must watch for any car nerd.

[@zimbazone]

Jason + the Throttle House boys should be the new Top Great trio

[@edwardbourke4328]

He's one of the strongest and most in depth writers in automotive journalism today. He's very good at what he does.

[@aleksanderaleksandrov168]

@@zimbazone The Straight Pipes are funnier 👍

[@sphaera3809]

When this car came out, I was an aspiring industrial designer in college and absolutely loved the audacity of Zagato. This car is just outrageous and fit the Alfa brand very well IMO. It aged very well too… WOW!!

[@TheUnFairAdvantageCrypto]

agreed

[@GhtPTR]

Yes, it aged very very well, the car is still relevant today.

[@fideliovienna4631]

This as ugly and irrelevant as it was when shown to the public in 1989 The car was in every magazine because it was special, but it was NEVER relevant, because they had a hard time selling it

[@richardhoulton4016]

Agree. Zagato hit and miss but this was a hit in my opinion.

[@slacko1971]

@@richardhoulton4016 Didn't he just say that this wasn't a Zagato design but a Fiat?

[@suddendilemma5137]

I love it. When everything looks the same something like this really stands out.

[@alessandrovitii]

That’s y this is one of the best series on yt by a long shot

[@cayman9873]

Like rosy odonnel at a beauty pageant

[@RUfromthe40s]

Agreed, it´s true

[@eqjase]

This is easily one of the best looking front ends of all time. Y’all are crazy, I can’t imagine not liking this. I’ll say it, it’s timeless.

[@lucadipaolo1997]

I agree. I think the R.Z. does look quite off, but this thing looks outstanding in my book. It's probably in my top 5 looking cars of all time.

[@sk1dzzz608]

Just...no You are tasteless

[@sk1dzzz608]

Wtf is wrong with hou

[@ishan4269]

Menace of a statement to make

[@Omer-vs4fm]

Can't tell if I genuinely love the design or I'm sick of modern cars all looking like they were drawn out by some angsty 12 year old who just discovered the f-word

[@jsquared1013]

🤣🤣

[@clardrives9301]

Honest to god, I don’t think that could have been said any better

[@johnracy2871]

That's easily one of the best descriptions for it I've ever heard!

[@dougrobinson8602]

Angsty 12 year old who just discovered the f-word sounds like a lot of KZbin commenters.

[@cosmic-tiger]

It’s a lot like brutalist architecture, it’s not pretty to look at but when you go past, you can’t help but look because it’s so gloriously weird!

[@dennisschmitter7310]

I've never thought this was ugly!! Still to this day I think it's absolutely gorgeous!!

[@IvanBosnjak89]

I love the short driving clips at the end of revelation videos. It’s a great snippet of what’s it’s like to be in a car that we would otherwise never get a chance to be in.

[@filip-pi9hy]

prekrasna alfa samo na balkanu je nevole kao brand

[@cratelab]

All these years later, I still love the look of this car. I remember having articles of it and pictures of it, and many other rides, on my wall. This one still looks great IMO.

[@twauster]

Yep. It's "ugly" only if you think a 1993 Camry is the pinnacle of automotive design. Alfa always manages to be interesting, and you can never look past one!

[@als4621]

My sentiments exactly!

[@davidturgeon2087]

@@twauster Since Cammisa is a big fan of the Camry, your comment explains why he thinks the SZ is "ugly".

[@jamesterakazis6624]

If you want to see "UGLY" , just go to your local BMW dealer and look for the "Rodent Teeth".... This design is now 32 years old and can be appreciated as being ground breaking....the new M 4 on the other hand, requires BMW apologists to say, "well it's not so bad if the car is black or if you look at the rear three quarters, etc, etc, etc.." FORZA ALFA BABY !!! THE KING IS BACK !!!

[@mikecude4167]

My dad had a Milano when I was a kid. I loved that car.

[@dragospahontu]

I personally like weird looking cars, so this is definitely one of my favorites!

[@ZEPRATGERNODT]

Amen

[@Broyale26]

Same!

[@RobertSmith-le8wp]

Me too. I hate all the SUVs and crossovers. I like just about every Alfa thats ever been made. They all look great in their own way. The 33 Stradale is probably the most beautiful car ever made

[@mattportnoyTLV]

The Fiat Multipla?

[@amplituhedron5582]

I love the Schumacher Multipla. So much glass surface

[@davidbarnsley8486]

It is not ugly , it is stunning and way ahead for its time I wanted one from the minute I first saw it 👍👍👍

[@177GearBreak]

same here, it looks great.

[@paultroalic6676]

Absolutely agree. Looked at it at the dealers for some months then bough it. Fantastic car.

[@Kiss__Kiss]

Jason and his Dry Humor is definitely back!!!! Welcome back!!!!

[@JasonCammisa]

Thanks!

[@justingallagher4864]

@@JasonCammisa Like a lot of car folk, I've been watching you since your Motor Trend days. I liked you on that show, but I think you found your home here. Seems to give you the production freedom that matches with your passions and presentation. Nice.

[@Kiss__Kiss]

@@justingallagher4864 EXACTLY!!! We said/typed.

[@JasonCammisa]

@@justingallagher4864 Thank you! :)

[@vuklozo]

This is how you show respect to one of the most rare and special cars ever built. Unlike a certain someone talking about quirks and features.

[@jojojoseph8935]

Honestly Jason and Hagerty team currently one of the best automotive journal channel,QuAlity , Editing ,And picturization top notch

[@danevans3333]

I have the later 24v version of this engine and it really is as amazing to use and listen to as he says. Even in my FWD car where I struggle to get power to the road sometimes, it's so incredibly responsive and easy to understand, all while sounding like half a Ferrari. Amazing engine

[@luccac6247]

Sounds like a beauty from the video alone. I can only imagine what’s it’s like when behind the wheel driving. Enjoy ! Bets any loud 4 cylinder VTEC crap from Honda. Enough rice rockets crushing the streets these days in North America.

[@thunderfire01]

I really like the look of this car, I love nearly squared shape coupe cars from the 90s, like honda crx and old VW golfs, those wheels on the SZ in my opinion are the most gorgeous factory wheels of all time great review Jason, as always

[@caralho5237]

except the honda crx and golfs were decent looking at least this car has a beautiful front but the rear makes me wanna puke. its like a reverse prostitute

[@zetohd5625]

Thanks for this vid’! As an owner, just some comments: not precisely the same underneath as a Milano/75. It’s based on the competition 75 - shorter wheel base, race suspension, ground effect, tuned V6 (210 vs 180 PS). I own an SZ, it’s indeed an incredible driving experience. And the design ages surprisingly well: amongst the young 18+ agers (ie my kids), the car is an 80ies design icon. In fact, the car won an award at the 2021 Zurich Classic Car Awards for Youngtimer… One last comment: the best Busso sits in my 147 GTA.

[@nsxsennaforever]

Spot on. I have owned an Alfa SZ a few years and now have a 156 gta. That gta engine is supposed to have 250 hp... I think it is a lot more. The busso is simply brilliant.

[@EduardoCabreira]

As an inconditional Alfa Fan I can only say I am grateful for this episode! Funny, full of specs, history facts and random little stories... a perfect mix for a trully car-lover video.

[@antonioiimusto4413]

As a former long time Milano owner, I’ve always wanted and loved the SZ.

[@m1l3s27]

As an american who is severely Alfa deprived, I'm both insanely jealous you loved a Milano and curious if I'd be in financial ruin if we did have old Alfas over here.

[@jsquared1013]

@@m1l3s27 there are old Alfas "over here", but finding one in decent condition is another story 😆😆

[@antonioiimusto4413]

@Kinky Streets I’m in the US and had a Verde for a short time. I daily drove a Platinum for 10+ years with a 3.0 swap. Had 4.1 limited slip versus the Verde’s 3.55 diff and the beautiful grey suede and leather interior. I’m forever looking for another nice example

[@DaleDriven]

Watching this inside my Alfa Romeo 164. Thanks for acknowledging the busso v6 as the best V6 engine ever made!

[@yanceyboyz]

Only because the VR6 isn't considered a true V6.

[@sk1dzzz608]

Probably one of the least reliable too💀

[@davidturgeon2087]

@@sk1dzzz608 Not at all. I owned an '88 Milano Verde, and that engine was indestructible.

[@Vincent_Stevens]

​@@yanceyboyz Last time i checked, the VR6 couldn't rev past 10k rpm, let alone 12k. Alfa's 155 V6 Ti DTM had a roadgoing version with an engine that put out 430 hp and revved to 12000 rpm.

[@yanceyboyz]

@@Vincent_Stevens last time I checked, the R&D and production of the VR6, led to the W16 in the worlds fastest car. Narrow angle for the win!

[@EmTekTube]

The "I can't believe this needs to be said" After the no pugs were harmed statement really got me 🤣

[@JasonCammisa]

It got me, too, that we knew we needed to say it!

[@bukkuk5949]

Idiocracy .. in progress ... Jason is very smart guy .. so why these stupid ideas ....

[@3rdHalf1]

The existence of pugs is harm to pugs.

[@jevonmaddox1615]

This is where I come to make my dream car list for when I have more $ than I know what to do with. Ive been watching your content for years. Pure automotive journalism and history, you know what makes cars special.

[@Owenactor]

Ok, throwing the dog has sealed me as HUGE fan of the show. I DIED laughing. Thank you.

[@JasonCammisa]

You're welcome. Luckily, Stewie didn't did. Sorry you did. 🤪

[@Owenactor]

@@JasonCammisa EXCELLENT. Please keep the humor going ;)

[@ydid687]

@@JasonCammisa am still laughing at you scaring a pram pushing mother who threw her baby when you revved the continental 5 years later

[@bukkuk5949]

Idiocracy .. in progress ... Jason is very smart guy .. the 'structure' and 'narration' and some 'rich' ideas makes these movies really cool ... ... ... but once in a time he'll put sth so stupid, primitive and tastless ... that ... wtf .. -) ...

[@ydid687]

@@bukkuk5949 cool tell us how you really feel

[@edoardomigliori4666]

Can I just say "Thank you, Jason" ? There are two KZbin channels I'm excited to see notifications from: Harry's Garage and this one. Please continue this wonderful format, the world needs it.

[@richardhoulton4016]

+1 But Tyrells Classic Workshop is also worth a watch

[@edoardomigliori4666]

@@richardhoulton4016 I didn't know it, but I'll add it to my to-watch list!

[@brettjohnson6807]

I was in third grade when I first saw a yellow RZ in a car magazine. It was love at first sight, this is still my favorite car of all time. Thanks for finally doing a video on one, it made my week! Keep up the great work Jason!

[@richardhoulton4016]

It’s one of the best cars Alfa ever made. I’d donate a kidney to have one in the garage. Jason knocks it out of the park again! My favourite auto journalist right now.

[@richardhoulton4016]

@Kinky Streets Why would you want to turbo a Busso?

[@cesarenotardonato9937]

It's wonderful that Hagerty is giving attention to such a gem of italian engineering 🏄

[@baselvisions33]

I for one really love how it looks. Great piece of automotive content of course.

[@BRAINFxck10]

My favorite Alfa, love the 80's futuristic looks, race chassis and Busso drivetrain.

[@markchopping]

I worked at an Alfa dealer when these came out. Ours was one of not many to have one. When it was delivered everyone came out to see it. When we drove it this would stop traffic. Am incredible car and there’s been nothing like it since. The engine is a masterpiece and the sound is sensational.

[@martinlagrange8821]

I fell in love with the SZ when I was 12 - and all my subsequent Alfa Romeo design sketches have tended to feature the same style of grille .... Its a gorgeous thing. I've seen one for real, kicking around Auckland NZ....I drive a daily-driver Alfa 156 V6 Busso manual, which is one of the last of them from 2006.

[@fideliovienna4631]

The 156 and the 159 were great looking cars, but the SZ wasn´t

[@jumpferjoy1st]

I both love the design of the SZ and remember fondly of owning and driving a Busso 3.0 V6 powered car. I had an Alfa 164. Got a member of the ex racing team to service it and he played with the engine limiter and a few other bits. Red line is about 7,500, but I can tell you they are good for 9,000!!!!!!! And yes the really surprising thing about the engine is how quick the revs rise or fall, I think due to lack of balancer shafts. Plus the comedy is it pulls away strongly and just keeps pulling. Used to wind up passengers, by pulling away in second. When you think the car would run out of puff at 6,000rpm, instead you put your foot down harder and it just kept going to 9,000!!!!!!

[@shannonkillingsworth1941]

Another excellent video by Jason on an interesting car that many have seen and few know much about. These are the best stories and Jason is a master at telling them. So happy to see new content and as always, excited for more.

[@4criswithak]

This design may not be for everyone, but Alfa Romeo isn't an everyone brand. It's actually growing on me! I can see Alfa Romeo using this design for an electric coupe/ hatchback in the future.

[@studiocalder818]

👍🏻 Alfa Romeo is for Alfisti, that's a unique family

[@ydid687]

that pug is a deformed yet cute monstrosity anatomically speaking.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

Its why I will always love pugs. I cant help but pet every one I see lol. I miss mine so bad seeing Jasons.

[@troyclayton1775]

@@joshuakhaos4451 best dogs ever. I didn't choose the Pug life, the Pug life chose me.

[@tomfurstyfield]

I think they're lovely but it's cruel to keep breeding them

[@ydid687]

@@joshuakhaos4451 10 years ago my neighbours left their pug boozoo unattended and some fuckers stole him just nearby the trellis of our colony..i hope the thieves receive torment and torture for an eternity :(

[@MaximillianPrintz]

Sounded like a Galvin Belson animal comparison lol

[@fritzmuller8246]

I build Alfa's and Ferraris for a living. I drove an SZ to auction about a year ago. I was simply astounded. Best sounding V6 ever. So smooth and absolutely perfect in every way. Styling is beautiful and arresting in the flesh and I took her to 120 MPH on the motorway. No problems at all. Lovely lovely car.

[@paultroalic6676]

Yep I had one for 6/7 years and absolutely loved it. Had

[@2engjnr2]

This car corners with a lateral G force of up to 1.4 which was a record for the day and still stands at the top. The fact that it is so unknown results in it being left off the tables.

[@kschlo4work]

The wagon would have been cool! I had a 1976 Alfetta in high school. It taught me a few important things: I love driving fun cars, I need to know how to fix my own car, and it takes a LONG time to fix things when you have to wait for parts to ship from Italy. I'm so glad I found this series! Jason is incredibly knowledgeable about cars and car history and funny, too.

[@fugelkusch3722]

Cammisa is the best thing that has happened to Hagerty in a while.

[@mpershyn31]

SZ was designed by Antonio Castellana from FIAT Centro Stile. Regarding the suspensions it was similar to 75 IMSA (it had coil springs instead of the torsion bars). SZ was able to archive 1.3g of the lateral acceleration.

[@samieahmad9463]

Yay a new Revelation's episode. Guess I won't be studying for my A level exam now :)

[@TheRcwarbird]

I won’t be studying for my law finals either!

[@santiago-cb9lf]

Just got to half term, meant to be studying for my Oxford entrance exam and interview. Not happening😂😂😂

[@kes_r]

You have a level exams in october?

[@philholder-z5m]

Found this series of videos a few days ago. As a Brit living in Spain it's in interesting watching a well produced and researched video on so many of the iconic cars of my youth. I once drove through central London in my MK2 GTi 16v following 3 of these Alfa's, in the flesh they always looked pretty cool. Must have been some kind of promotional event.

[@bioduntube]

Jason's videos are the best on the internet. I love it. I love him

[@sayhan3631]

This car design gives me Lancia 037 vibes. I know it might not look as attractive as the Lancia 037, but it sure is a beast of a car.

[@erty2389]

I love the SZ. It is not beautiful, but it is one of the coolest looking cars ever produced!

[@richardhoulton4016]

Agree

[@JR-uy2nd]

I understand that everyone says this car is ugly but for me this is one of the most beautiful Alfa Romeo ever made. The front is fantastic with the 6 headlights, the roof angle is super aggressive and the spoiler is a good compliment. The boot is ugly ok, but everything else o think is beautiful.

[@corysekine-pettite1783]

That crazy collection of body panels looks amazing, actually.

[@CParnell68C10]

Absolutely some of the best car content available to watch. Thanks Mr.Cammisa!

[@SamuelCroin]

4:15 No, Jason. In 1952 Enzo Ferrari was not the team boss of Alfa Romeo. He was already the owner of his Ferrari Team, from 1947

[@treliq]

Another amazing production! Jason's delivery and humour is unmatched

[@DEADPEDAL]

There's nothing ugly about this car to me. At all. I'm obsessed with it. It is drenched in 80's Italian swagger. It's perfect.

[@markpass4215]

A place all of his own…humour, originality, creativity, and informative…Always a pleasure to watch!

[@Geardos1]

Wow alfa really tossed the pooch on the design of this

[@JasonCammisa]

Hahahaha I see what you did there.

[@peevee5588]

As an adult i can see the proportions on this car are way off, but as a kid back then this was a car i would dream about. What a great throwback. Thanks!

[@tshepi92]

Jason, you were missed.... You really need to make a video of the Gen 3 Vw Scirocco :)

[@bryanjames1484]

Jason you make learning about these cars genuinely enjoyable and fun to watch. Keep doing what you do. Awesome work!

[@jryalls]

I’d love an episode on the Aston Martin Lagonda.

[@razvit]

I remember this one from a 90's magazine. I was a kid and thought it's absolutely badass. Loved everything about it, still do!

[@oprikawize]

Love your episodes, is it possible to have more driving impressions included? Would love to know how the gearbox and brakes feel, how it feels at the limit and so on...

[@neilharrison7555]

Peculiarly, this a totally beautiful car, very much like the Lancia Hyena. I used to work on the cross-channel ferries between Dover and Calais. One of our "Regular Customers" was a red (obviously) SZ. When I used to see it drive on on our cctv, I would always go down for another look at it's peculiar, but utterly entrancing lines. The interior looked very driver focused, but also comfortable. All the test reports suggest it was a fantastic driver's car. I wish I could afford one!

[@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ]

Love to see new episodes! Keep it up :)

[@twauster]

I love your videos and the SZ is a very, very special Alfa, but claiming that Enzo Ferrari was Alfa Romeo's F1 team boss in 1951 was a disappointing thing to hear. Sure, he was *a* team boss in the 1951 F1 season, but of course for Alfa's competitor Scuderia Ferrari. He had nothing to do with neither the 158 nor the 159. While the relationship between Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Fiat, Maserati and Lancia have always been full of politics, drama and personal rivalry, there is no real need to namedrop Enzo Ferrari in an SZ special. Thanks!

[@williamlopez45]

I agree with John Keen's comment. He nailed it. Jason has the best auto content and he's a great writer.

[@LeonKotze70]

Still looks a hell of a lot better than some of today's cars. I have always loved the styling.

[@pdahandyman]

I personally love how this looks. It's unique and that big ass only looks bad in the drophead. The SZ looks like a 2-seat F-15 fighter cockpit, and the angular lines a refreshing. Ever since panel makers have figured out multi-vector curves on the cheap every average car has all these insane "emotion" lines. It's the "ugly" ones that care how it drives instead of how it looks. Would daily.

[@AxLWake]

I actually like the design of the SZ. Not that it's a pretty car but its brutish look is very special and impressive.

[@francoisrivard893]

Having grown up driving my dad's GTV6 I've always loved the SZ. I saw one in the infield at Road Atlanta's Walter Mitty weekend some year back, it looked pretty awesome to me. Think of it as a GTV6 with some balls.

[@geovonnie69]

I had a one of these as a Matchbox when I was a kid. It was my favorite. Didn't see what one looked like IRL until I was in my late teens. Fell in love.

[@javiermarques4657]

There is no way the Monster can be ugly. One of zagato's best.

[@TucsonDude]

Why does Jason keep saying it's "ugly". I have it in my Top Ten best looking cars folder.

[@pauleedeehimself8489]

I have always loved the design of SZ, because of it's radical difference to anything else. I was but a pip-squeak when it came out and by the time I was allowed to drive, not affordable... The 6 headlights were, to me, awesome. So much so that when I was able to, I ordered a 159, because it had 6 headlights.... well sort of...

[@OriginalSarn]

I absolutely love these videos. Jason always finds a way to get me interested in car I’ve barely ever seen anything about about.

[@hejmuesli]

I always liked the SZ. It's just such a special design. Nothing really looks like it, and it's consistent in its design language.

[@acreativename7999]

I never understood people that say its ugly, I love it

[@GreedomWorldwide]

This is top notch. Shoutout to the production/host. Excellent job.

[@alexp3572]

After having an 147 for 10 years I coinsider my self a Alfa fan. Thanks for this brilliant review with plenty of history. Now I would add that this monstro's front gave intuition for one the best looking alfas..the 2012 spider

[@jeremyaustin9103]

This is automotive perfection. You really don't need a stereo with that soundtrack

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

So basically you could rehome the drive train in a carbon fiber kit car, sort the suspension out... and you're off to the races

[@kyleholloway3470]

I was fortunate enough to see an SZ in a museum in South Africa. I'm not an Alfa Romeo person, but theres something about the SZ that's infinitely appealing.

[@spacekii]

One of the coolest, most retrofuturistic looking things ever. I adore the SZ

[@Veyronp87]

weirdly i never considered this car ugly. its very unique

[@Misaniovent]

The thing about this car is...it's not ugly at all. It's gorgeous.

[@davidsherrick898]

I have a 1988 Alfa Romeo Milano. My 17th Alfa! Love the Busso V6! Jason is an awesome presenter.

[@Shorts5683]

I saw this and remembered back to an old Carmudgeon episode where Jason waxed poetically about his desire to drive an SZ, and upon seeing the title of this revelations I thought “huh! His dream came true”

[@genzigzag]

Jason, you should have a disclaimer " no animals were harmed in this video" I had an old work colleague who was a huge Alfaholic and loved this thing. I do love those wheels

[@AJF4Me]

I love it! Ok the truncated um trunk not so much but I think the front 3/4 is beautiful!!!

[@reptilez13]

I like the single headlight version more, but otherwise it's pretty neat really. Unique.

[@enricgmajoral5300]

This is a beautiful car,...not ugly at all!

[@jeffreyspencer4005]

I'd wait 100 years (if I could still be alive by then---which I can't) to get NEW Jason content...BRAVO!

[@timolthof6451]

Great video. I love your style and humour. It's awesome great to see each car drive at the end of the video without any talking or music. Well done. Keep it up!!

[@yhfsywfit]

The bit of lifting the bonnet with an engine hoist is brilliant. Well played, Jason

[@marcusbyron4195]

I am binge watching revelations!! One of the best available! Keep it up thank you!

[@georgemantis9420]

I have to agree! I thoroughly enjoy Jason's Revelations series. It is presented in a very thoughtful manner. The history and reason for the vehicles existence is very well explained. Hey Jason any chance you can do an episode on the vehicles I own? 1985 Alfa Romeo GTV 6 and 1986 BMW Euro Spec M635CSi. Love the show, keep them coming!

[@timc924]

This is a stunning car and for me, it looks are mesmerising. If automative design were legislated to stick with a predetermined format and to never go out on a limb, then we'd never have cars such as this, the Lotus Elise, 911 and other memorable icons that inspire and make the heart pump. Beauty is skin deep, and those whom succumb to the notion that a car has to be beautiful to drive beautifully must spend their time in front of a mirror.

[@853massey]

Best car videos, peeeriod. Let alone you always let us enjoy a bit of the driving experience and sound, which, well, only you guys do. Awesome.

[@M16xblowDRO]

Been wanting one of these since I was 14, and I'm 27 now and I STILL love it

[@yrtracingteam106]

I think that i’m one of the very few whom has driven this car and it was one of the most memorable moments in my life. I love that little bug!

[@veritas4990]

Best Video if watched for years

[@b0kb0k]

Super cool car. #9 on my "wanna have it" list. I've heard about the panel gaps on this car but what is interesting is that THEY MOVE! At 10:52 you can see the hood/fender move some 2 or 3 mm. I can live with that...