The Original Fiat Panda Is an Italian Car Icon

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Doug DeMuro

Doug DeMuro

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@giuseeep
@giuseeep 2 жыл бұрын
Doug, you missed the most important feature for the Italian young couples: the reclining seats. They are so fast to use, and after reclining your have all the space you need for recreational purpose. Who knows how many were conceived inside a panda!
@MrAranton
@MrAranton 2 жыл бұрын
Seems ironic, considering how hard it is for panda bears to conceive...
@darwinmichel2087
@darwinmichel2087 2 жыл бұрын
The front seat plus back seat to a little bed
@alexger85
@alexger85 2 жыл бұрын
well, he is an american so he only uses a car to eat in, not to make love in.
@MrLordingit
@MrLordingit 2 жыл бұрын
I can testify to this, my girlfriend's parents had a Fiat Panda 😉
@F3udF1st
@F3udF1st 2 жыл бұрын
*procreactional purpose
@NavGTI
@NavGTI 2 жыл бұрын
As a European, seeing Doug appreciate these European mini cars is so cool to see. And these Pandas are getting more and more desirable, even for me!
@jamman7344
@jamman7344 2 жыл бұрын
Yes "Uncomfortable" sums up appreciation.
@danielr.y5261
@danielr.y5261 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Spanish. Back in the 1990's my aunt had a 1985 Panda, with body panels in that horrible kind of dirty ivory paint that was so popular at the time. I remember every time the speedometer hit 100 km/h the steering wheel would start shaking loudly. At 120 km/h _the whole car_ would start shaking. Fun times...
@Mhlikescars
@Mhlikescars 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get more small European cars, the 2CV and original Twingo are on my wishlist.
@noezito8
@noezito8 2 жыл бұрын
We had idiotic cocoon-styled ford interiors, so, for us european cars were fair
@nPulse
@nPulse 2 жыл бұрын
And this isn't even the basic version, this is the luxury one..
@gioze9293
@gioze9293 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting quirk Doug missed: to minimise costs and complexity during production the front and rear side windows are not curved, they actually are a flat surface so that the same piece of glass could be fitted both on the left and right side.
@stephenshepherd8740
@stephenshepherd8740 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the flat windscreen was actually more expensive to make than a curved one, but a flat screen better suited the ethos of the car so they actually opted for the more costly option. Design won out!
@wesselbakker936
@wesselbakker936 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the windows on the passenger side are just reversed driver side windows. The logo on the passenger side is just reversed.
@jasonharris1434
@jasonharris1434 2 жыл бұрын
I’m late to this video and was going to mention that.
@philballphotography
@philballphotography 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenshepherd8740 worse yet the version my dad had - the windshield was tempered but not laminated (late 80s model?) and when a large oncoming vehicle passed him the entire windshield disintegrated and blew in on him. I dont know if they ever went to a laminated version (its a legal requirement in the US)
@LekstiI
@LekstiI Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, isn’t that true for all American cars, compared to cars from other parts of the world? It bothered me so much when I went to the US - that all the side view mirrors are almost flat or at least close to flat! I assume not to save costs though, but probably because of some stupid laws that say that the mirror shouldn’t distort the actual image. This is the reason why I really hate driving in the US.
@parkerd3915
@parkerd3915 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Doug. You took me down memory lane. As a German, we take cars way too seriously, I still miss my Panda Selecta (automatic). The gearbox was the same size of the engine. It was like a aquarium set on a auto scooter. The repairs were so wonderfully easy and cheap. I took it on so many adventures and it never betrayed me. And it is a little sad that you did not drive that Panda 4x4 offroad because it is just a little mountain goat.
@gianluca777
@gianluca777 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more.
@co6mo
@co6mo 2 ай бұрын
@@gianluca777 stavo per scrivere la stessa cosa. e intanto 3,7 su 10 è il voto finale! fun fuctor 3... styling 4 practical 4... mah questo più che dagmuro a me semvra dag mulo!
@gianluca777
@gianluca777 2 ай бұрын
@@co6mo 🤣🤣🤣
@supergashbell
@supergashbell 2 жыл бұрын
That's _the_ italian iconic car. Not only it's everything Doug described but it also got the reputation of being an indestructible legend of a car that drives where other cars won't drive, on any terrain and condition. Nice used 4x4 Pandas are shooting up in value since people want them to this day and they still get national press or celebrities driving them (and praising them).
@Nickoboss29
@Nickoboss29 2 жыл бұрын
and we should also talk about the Steyr-Puch 4x4 system...
@nickjacobs1770
@nickjacobs1770 2 жыл бұрын
Those 4x4s are still used in some vin yards as they can get between the vines unlike a tractor.
@emilianosc335
@emilianosc335 2 жыл бұрын
@San that's Because seat was part of Fiat
@adithya9954
@adithya9954 2 жыл бұрын
I visited mount vesuvius earlier this year, and these were the only cars being used to drive up the volcano. So so good
@Iantrypsk
@Iantrypsk 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickjacobs1770 also is impossible to replace with anything because the Panda is actually huge you can fit with working boots even if you are tall. my first car was a Panda that took me way to long to replace because im 1.96 (6/4 i think in American) and cars that i could fit where out of my price range or not really an upgrade.
@buioso
@buioso 2 жыл бұрын
Italian here: the Panda is so italian and so familiar to us that seeing it in USA reviewed by Doug is really weird. Feels like when you see suddenly your best friend on national TV. By the way the 4x4 is not a regular Panda, it's a badass off road car
@stefanomarchi3542
@stefanomarchi3542 2 жыл бұрын
​@@karlk.6819 Non piangere dai
@Kosty88
@Kosty88 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlk.6819 tiene il passo con le miglior off-roader la fuori, scusa se è poco
@buioso
@buioso 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlk.6819 ha capacità off road notevoli infatti è usatissima nelle zone di montagna e non solo. Sul fatto che sia scomoda… è ragionevolmente comoda e non è una bentley te ne sei accorto si?
@curziomoriconi499
@curziomoriconi499 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlk.6819 Dillo senza piangere fratè
@karlk.6819
@karlk.6819 2 жыл бұрын
@@buioso una Honda logo è una Bentley in confront a questa. Ma elogiare la merda come questa panda èmolto Italian style quindi nn discuto pltre
@mrhaftbar
@mrhaftbar 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my Fiat Panda story: When skiing in Italy in the early 2000s there were a lot of banner adds on the ski lifts for Audis A4 quattro offroad. The cars were pictured on driving on slopes, drifting through snow, going over frozen lakes, climbing up hills. The Audi A4 quattro offroad surely is the car for the mountains, at least thats what Audi wanted us to believe. Skiing down I saw some workers fixing the poles & netting on the edge of the slope. Parked behind them: a Panda 4x4.
@giamba75
@giamba75 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but audi sponsored the ski world Cup. Locals need something reliable, practical and affordable.. Before Pandas you could had seen a lot of Autobianchi A112 or Fiat 127, but the 4x4 traction of the panda was a great step ahead. Low weight and small tyres drove great on snow
@adrianzanoli
@adrianzanoli 2 жыл бұрын
In the late 90's/early2000s my family had a B5 Passat 4-motion, on the mountain we got stuck alongside some friends of us (with an Audi 100 V8 if I remember correcly), just to witness a Fiat Panda 4x4 overtaking with ease our cars that in the meantime completly sunk in the snow.
@2Bunphettered788
@2Bunphettered788 2 жыл бұрын
Good story. Well delivered. 👍
@axlm.808
@axlm.808 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianzanoli There is a popular video where you can see a Range rover stuck in a snowy hairpin and then a Panda 4x4 arrives and passes like the road was clear of any snow or ice
@Tasos521
@Tasos521 2 жыл бұрын
True... way better off-road and snow from X5 value car competition.
@Dammiunnomevalido
@Dammiunnomevalido 2 жыл бұрын
"If you lived in Italy in that era, you either had a Panda, or knew someone who did" is an absolute truth: Pandas were omnipresent. They weren't fit just for cities, but also for countrysides and all the small villages that dot the Italian landscape, with their absurdly narrow streets. Thank you for reviewing this glorious piece of Italian car history.
@simonemontagna7678
@simonemontagna7678 Жыл бұрын
They still are, both newer and older models. Almost every Italian has been in a fiat banda lol
@florjanbrudar692
@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын
@@simonemontagna7678 Fiat Banda? ROFL!
@spavatch
@spavatch 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what was more omnipresent, the Panda (4 million made in 23 years) or the Uno (6 million made in 11 years in Italy alone).
@0iettatore
@0iettatore 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: La Panda 4x4 is an absolute beast off road! It can beat the vast majority of 4WDs (including the Japanese ones); hence its popularity among hunters and farmers in Italy. Can you please try it out on dirt roads Doug? Greetings from Italy!!!
@magnolerriccardo6840
@magnolerriccardo6840 2 жыл бұрын
In famiglia la 30s del 1985 ci ha tirato avanti per 23 anni di onoratissimo servizio.
@edoardorolla9959
@edoardorolla9959 2 жыл бұрын
The panda 4x4 is almost a status symbol now 😂
@kaisersoymilk6912
@kaisersoymilk6912 2 жыл бұрын
The Panda is our Ford F150. It's still one of the cars that sells better in Italy, I've got one in my family (although ours is a 2010s model, after it was completely redesigned using modern standards, the original spirit is there though: it's still a spartan and spacious car).
@kaisersoymilk6912
@kaisersoymilk6912 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Panda 4x4 was made for farmers, not because of "poor roads", as I said above, it's the Italian version of the Ford F150, the American farmers' car.
@magnolerriccardo6840
@magnolerriccardo6840 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaisersoymilk6912 MAKES SENSE...
@sergiomanzo7073
@sergiomanzo7073 2 жыл бұрын
one of the biggest upside on the Panda was on non 4x4 cars, the rear "seats" would fold into the boot creating basically a queen size bed, if you're 20 something that means a lot
@h.s.5995
@h.s.5995 2 жыл бұрын
Just live inside your panda!!
@kowalski2015
@kowalski2015 2 жыл бұрын
@@h.s.5995 not live but nice for late evenings....listen to me bro!
@WhiteBoyMikey21
@WhiteBoyMikey21 2 жыл бұрын
you also could fold the backseat into a hamock for the kids to sleep in
@h.s.5995
@h.s.5995 2 жыл бұрын
@@kowalski2015 italians always be prepared 😉😉😉
@GianniBarberi
@GianniBarberi Жыл бұрын
@@kowalski2015 advertisements at the time were quite explicit!
@LudovicoOperti
@LudovicoOperti 2 жыл бұрын
Just some additions: this '95 model is almost a top of the line version. Base models had fixed rear windows, no clock, no water temperature gauge (in place there was a big red light), no trip meter, no plastic vents for the windshield, no speakers, no car stereo. Other engines were the primitive air-cooled 600 cc 2-cylinders, 899 cc OHV, various sizes FIRE engines (750, 1000 and 1100 cc). Sometime in the early nineties briefly existed a diesel version, i think it was a rough and slow 1400 cc natural aspirated.
@moviemakers2025
@moviemakers2025 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info 👍🏼
@salmiakki5638
@salmiakki5638 2 жыл бұрын
an electric version was also made. and a 4x4 (4wd) model has always existed alongside all the othe revisions
@Timico1000
@Timico1000 2 жыл бұрын
It was a 1300cc Diesel iirc. Never knew these existed (they were never sold in Germany) and only found out some years ago through a video on KZbin.
@flakey7832
@flakey7832 2 жыл бұрын
@@Timico1000 as an italian I've never seen a diesel panda here
@I_am_Jesus_though
@I_am_Jesus_though 2 жыл бұрын
Some were even 0.9 litres
@10thmtn86
@10thmtn86 2 жыл бұрын
My family lives in the mountains of Tuscany, and the 4x4 Panda can go anywhere on those narrow, steep dirt and gravel "roads." It is one of the few cars that is narrow enough to make it all the way up to the top of the town where my family comes from. It is perfectly suited to the terrain.
@sergioboccia6020
@sergioboccia6020 Жыл бұрын
Correct!
@lunabouch
@lunabouch 2 жыл бұрын
I stayed with an Italian family for a few weeks back in 1998. Their second car was a FIAT Panda. We once took a rideout to San Gimignano to a winery to pick up the family’s wine. To my amazement my host brought a empty demijohn which holds about 10 or more gallons of wine when filled. We arrived opened the back hatch and the wine make had a filling pump and filled us up. The ride back was considerably slower due to the addition of 10 gallons of wine through the beautiful Tuscan hills. What a memory.
@andreazamboni69420
@andreazamboni69420 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have no idea what an absolute tank that car is.Just like Doug said, when people think what italian car is the most iconic for italians, what comes to mind is not a Ferrari, it's not a Fiat 500 but it's this car. I live in Italy in the Alps and around here that is a legendary vehicle to say the least, many people still use it beause in some conditions it's still the best thing you can have. I have overtaken so many fancy SUVs or more practical offroaders stuck in snow on the mountain roads with this car and also with the newer versions of the Panda. Obviously it has its downsides, for example if you had to go on the highway and you were brave enough to touch the 130kmh everything would start to vibrate and the best safety feature in the Panda were the prayers you could say while driving lol.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
That part about the safety feature being your prayers is hilarious!
@bjthedjdutchdude1992
@bjthedjdutchdude1992 Ай бұрын
I drive a 2014 model and it did fine driving 130km/h for an hour
@peeetropaoli
@peeetropaoli 2 жыл бұрын
Il fatto che Doug recensisca una Fiat Panda mostra la sua immensa passione per le auto curiose o che hanno definito un'epoca. Il fatto che Doug riesca a trasmettere così accuratamente i bisogni e le particolarità della cultura automobilistica italiana mostra la sua grande intelligenza umanistica. Grazie Doug!
@svenwesterlund3405
@svenwesterlund3405 2 жыл бұрын
The air vents Doug said was for defogging is just holes through the upper part of the firewall that allow cold air to be forced in while driving. Defogging is via the tiny slats in between. Also the fabric part of the "dashboard" is just that, a cloth clamped under the windscreen. The lower part has a channel sewn into it where a plastic tube is inserted. When the tube is hung on their side mounted holders it creates the hollow part for the speakers and glove storage pit. The ashtray slides on the plastic tube inserted in the fabric. Back seats could fold up against the back of the front seats, thus creating more storage on the fllor pan while acting as a safety stop for sliding cargo. 4X4-system is Austrian Steyr-Puch who made systems for among others Mercedes G-Wagon and the Pinzgauer military vehicles. Not all 4X4 had the inclinometer cluster on top of the dash. Yes, I owned a few of these wonderful small cars. Love them!
@buahcs
@buahcs 2 жыл бұрын
Doug has the power to make me want every car he reviews... especially these little ones. I'm only about an inch shorter than he is so some of them would be less practical but I love the little things that were made cheaply, that get good gas mileage, that are just cuuuuute! Wish cars weren't so expensive now, if I had more money I'd try and import one. Thanks for your comment, glad to see people like you contributing more interesting and useful information!
@roysoutdoorlife
@roysoutdoorlife Жыл бұрын
We had a version called the Sisley that had the pitch and roll gauges.
@svenwesterlund3405
@svenwesterlund3405 Жыл бұрын
@@roysoutdoorlife Very cool variant, I had no extras in my cars.
@roysoutdoorlife
@roysoutdoorlife Жыл бұрын
@@svenwesterlund3405 simple is best!
@matteomeneghel3586
@matteomeneghel3586 2 жыл бұрын
Italian guy here! This car in particular has many optional: for example the fact that the passenger mirror is adjustable from the inside is an optional, the stereo system is an optional, the opening rear windows are an optional and the polarized rear mirror is also an optional. Also it's in fantastic shape and now these are becoming so rare, that one of this can cost at least as much as 9000/10000€. As always fantastic video, keep it up👍
@mesicek7
@mesicek7 2 жыл бұрын
Oh cmon. They're selling for as low as 1000€ in Balkan countries
@sergionetooliveira
@sergionetooliveira 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Portuguese, in Portugal a good condition one goes for a lot, we have some fanatics of the Panda and some groups that love to mod them, they are called "the Pandameras" of the Porche Panamera
@Dimitri04arshavin
@Dimitri04arshavin 2 жыл бұрын
@@mesicek7 Yeah, the basic one. The cheapiest 4x4 in Belgium in good condition is about 8000€
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how different our Seat Marbella was from the Fiat Panda, but our 1990s one didn't have a passenger mirror at all. Nor did it have any kind of radio/stereo. Also, our air vent was strictly singular. One vertical vent in the dash that could be tilted toward the driver or passenger, but def not both at once.... such decadence! It was definitely an interesting experience in summer...
@gglivetv
@gglivetv 2 жыл бұрын
@@mesicek7 They're slightly different versions (usually made in Poland), as the 126
@nicolamiriano9150
@nicolamiriano9150 2 жыл бұрын
Being Italian, this is probably the first time i see on this channel a "normal" car to me that is something strange to see in the US. The Panda is the true Italian Icon just like the old 500... A car that never let's you down and that if it happens, with a few euros you fix. I've driven a lots of variants and is always fun to drive, and still you can meet lots of those on the roads as Doug said. Just a little thing to add, the rear tailgate and the front grill are the "updated" ones, from 1991. The previous had also Fiat badges (front and rear) and the "Panda 4x4" logo was not sculpted on the body of the car but there was an emblem saying Panda 4x4 Steyr Puch wich was the factory who made the 4WD system
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the Yugo at the bottom of Doug's list was actually based on a Fiat. However, it was a 1970s design and the Yugoslavians might not have put them together as as carefully.
@nicolamiriano9150
@nicolamiriano9150 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrDuncl Well, yes it was based on a Fiat but never began an icon, only a cheap car. Here was named as Innocenti Koral, and they sold way less than a Panda (or a Fiat 127 etc)
@TFSIChristmas
@TFSIChristmas 2 жыл бұрын
My uncles in Northern Italy still drives this.
@Mike-rk8px
@Mike-rk8px 2 жыл бұрын
I have relatives who live in central and northern Sweden, and they all own Panda’s (and have since around 1985). As you might imagine, those areas of Sweden get a lot of bad weather and snow most of the year, but the 4 wheel drive Pandas are loved by Swedes. Despite the reputation Italian cars have as being unreliable and poorly made, Pandas are tough cars. They’re also very easy to fix, most things you can do yourself. Gasoline is also extremely expensive in Europe (and more so in Sweden because of the high standard of living, and Pandas are great on gas. But the real talent of the Panda is what it can do off-road: they’re almost unstoppable.
@PaulThompsonGB
@PaulThompsonGB 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say this kind of car is strange in the US. We had omnis.
@ferrarista1108
@ferrarista1108 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the 4x4 version you reviewed: It is said that the 4x4 version wasn't initially planned by FIAT managers, but Giovanni Agnelli (the big boss of the company) needed a car to go skiing in Sestriere, which needed to be compact and capable of driving in the snow. Hence the 4x4 version was born
@TheOnlyVistosi
@TheOnlyVistosi 2 жыл бұрын
For the same reason there is a single example of the Lancia Delta Integrale Cabrio
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 Жыл бұрын
Who cares how the Panda 4X4 came into being. It was a great idea then and it would be a great car to have now.
@PRH123
@PRH123 Жыл бұрын
Urban myth, new models are massive investments and extensively planned, as a failure can crash the company... panda 4x4 was no different....
@juliancrooks3031
@juliancrooks3031 Жыл бұрын
The 4x4 would go over good here in the U.S.
@DomenicoMilone
@DomenicoMilone Жыл бұрын
​@@juliancrooks3031 the transmission was made by the same company who made the original G wagon transmission. Fiat just went to Austria and and ask them "I want the same but smaller". Sadly it became quite rare and they go for quite a bit of money, especially if in good conditions. But if you want a very small and reliable 4x4 this is basically the only car of this category that exists, the modern panda 4x4 is also a quite capable little car, but it can't take as much abuse as the old version and its not as capable as of road, though you can find videos of it competing with a range Rover. It should be too hard to import one of these to the US
@MrRobMetal
@MrRobMetal 2 жыл бұрын
Panda's were great cars. i've been in them a lot. but i gotta say, the one you reviewed was top of the line. the two tone interior, cloth dash, 4x4. you need to see how bareboned you could actually get these from the dealerships haha
@stevewages
@stevewages 2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend and I visited Italy in 2002, and we took photos of the various badges of Pandas. There were so many versions! When we would show friends the pictures, they couldn't believe the number of variants! Glad to see Doug review this one.
@pumpkin91ful
@pumpkin91ful 2 жыл бұрын
Look for Moretti Panda Rock, Giannini Panda, Coriasco Panda Style on internet, those were Pandas assembled and sold by the couchbuilders by their own during the 90's
@lucasbiaggini
@lucasbiaggini 2 жыл бұрын
Not only Panda, but pretty much all econoboxes in Europe did that. There's a Yahoo edition of the Renault Clio, for example.
@lucasbiaggini
@lucasbiaggini 2 жыл бұрын
Al the econoboxes in Europe did the weird special editions back than. There's a Yahoo edition to the Renault Clio. There's also a very popular QuickSilver edition. Even these days, Renault sells a "Le Coq Sportif" edition of the Twingo.
@problemimentali
@problemimentali 2 жыл бұрын
Mine was a red “Young”
@VOLTAIRE_DORTMUND
@VOLTAIRE_DORTMUND 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany the Fiat Panda was also very famous. Here it was also the case that you either owned a Fiat Panda or knew someone who owned a Fiat Panda. About 15 years ago I bought a Fiat Panda as a winter car for €100 and the car got me through five months of bad weather without any problems. A very reliable, very cheap and economical vehicle.
@DyslexicMitochondria
@DyslexicMitochondria 2 жыл бұрын
it was my first car
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@kitecattestecke2303 2 жыл бұрын
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@dan725
@dan725 2 жыл бұрын
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@nicn5707
@nicn5707 2 жыл бұрын
It's also worth highlighting that it's 4x4 capabilities in the snow are almost legendary! There are loads of videos about it on here in fact. When I was a kid in the 90s Range Rovers, MBs, or BMWs got stuck but the Panda just overtook them and kept going. If you were an avid skier in Italy, Austria or Switzerland (Alps) very often you had one of these, not only did they get you to the top you also had no problem parking them there. In fact many do today as the latest generation of Panda 4x4 is still very good in the snow. It was and still is an incredible little machine!
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant little 4x4 machine!
@komi1834
@komi1834 2 жыл бұрын
too bad the new panda cross is awful looking, but 2012 panda is def car with best visibility of any modern car, back windows are superb, I'm eager to see the next gen panda, it would be shame if they stopped making 4x4 ones
@danielemeytre4010
@danielemeytre4010 2 жыл бұрын
True. I drove personally on 5 inches of fresh snow with ice beneath on a mountain road in early morning: smooth and safe. That motor is shit, but the car climbs amazingly. You could park so easily in 10 inches of fresh snow.
@miskatonic6210
@miskatonic6210 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. So the car got through the snow, but during that you froze to death.
@danielemeytre4010
@danielemeytre4010 2 жыл бұрын
@@miskatonic6210 absolutely not! Even in winter the motor fries: in five minutes you have your cockpit very hot, without pushing the outlet of hot air. No vent, temperature level selector very "low". In summer you would have overheating trouble.
@MundoOval
@MundoOval 2 жыл бұрын
You won't believe how capable these cars are off-road
@juliancrooks3031
@juliancrooks3031 Жыл бұрын
I want one, a cheap economical vehicle that is easy to maintain 👍👍👍
@delf197810
@delf197810 Жыл бұрын
@@juliancrooks3031 Literally, it can go anywhere. Simple, easy to drive, cheap to maintain and... no exaggeration..the 4x4 version could go anywhere.
@juliancrooks3031
@juliancrooks3031 Жыл бұрын
@@delf197810 convince fiat to rebadged them as Dodge Omni as they are into retro designs and ship them to U S. With high gas prices they would sell good
@Aygo84
@Aygo84 2 жыл бұрын
Giorgetto Giuriano once said in an interview that, from all the cars he had designed, the Panda was his favourite and the one he was most proud of as a designer. And if we acknowlegde that design is not (only) about drawing athletic shapes or sports cars, but it's way more than that, it becomes easy to understand why he said so. Extra fun fact: the (current) 3rd generation Panda still is the best hit in sales in Italy today. It still has 4x4 versions which are famous to leave behind well-known big 4x4 (not even mentioning SUV and crossovers).
@frederic604
@frederic604 2 жыл бұрын
And honestly, in most Italian Cities, villages and especially mountain villages, the current 4x4 Panda is the only car that is really usable.
@petersuchansky6703
@petersuchansky6703 2 жыл бұрын
that "drawing athletic shapes" is actualy styling. Nothing with design.
@elgooghosent7080
@elgooghosent7080 2 жыл бұрын
And he is the one who designed the delorean
@_wonderwall_
@_wonderwall_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm from Italy and I can tell you that it's true, every Italian in the late 80's and 90's had a Panda or knew someone who owned a Panda. The 4x4 was the preferred vehicle for sheepherders, farmers and landowners, because it was so simple and cheap that litteraly nothing could break, so it was the perfect working horse. It was low in fuel consumption and the 4x4 system was really basic, no differential, all wheels spin at the exact same speed, so you are not allowed to pass 50 km/h in 4x4 or you will destroy everything! If you came to Italy, you would be surprised by how many original Pandas are still alive and well, after all these years!
@_wonderwall_
@_wonderwall_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@mjngp Another very popular car in Italy, the Uno. It was the first car with the FIRE engine, if I'm not mistaken. FIRE stands for Fully Robotized Integrated Engine, long words for probably the smallest engine in the history of automaking. Still, a somewhat reliable engine, that didn't need a lot of maintenance. But in later years, the Uno Turbo IE was a true monster. The Uno Turbo, the Peugeot 205 GTI, the Renault 5 GT, in Italy we call these cars "coffins on wheels", because they had such a poweful engine wrapped in a tiny, lightweight car, with little or no safety features. No ABS, no airbags, no ESP, traction control, nothing.
@stefanoforti9432
@stefanoforti9432 2 жыл бұрын
And most of us born in italy in the late 80’ are probably be conceived in that car😅
@DeesoSaeed
@DeesoSaeed 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I went to Andorra which is a tiny country in the middle of the Pyrenees between Spain and France. Since the country is very mountanous, roads are twisty and it snows frequently. There I found out that the most popular car was the Panda 4x4 for obvious reasons. Their off road capabilities are quite good and probably would put to shame any modern SUV.
@Theshadowpoison
@Theshadowpoison 2 жыл бұрын
And we had the Punto, the Tempra, the Tipo, the Seicento. Not to mention some cars from Lancia, like the Delta. Back then we lived a very special part of italian history. ( No, we don't talk about the Duna )
@_wonderwall_
@_wonderwall_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Theshadowpoison I personally know a person, a dear friend of mine, who still owns and drive a Duna in immaculate conditions, after almost 40 years. It's camp. It's a car too bad that is actually good!
@mroutcast8515
@mroutcast8515 2 жыл бұрын
This is why primarily I love this channel, it's not just about high performance and luxury fancy cars. It's about all cars, new and old model, cheap, expensive, bad and great (oh, and often very weird).
@AlexTheStampede
@AlexTheStampede 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid, there were a few cars I wanted once I grew up: the Testarossa, the F40, the Countach, Alfa 155, Lancia Delta Integrale, Lotus Esprit... and the Panda 4x4. Those are still some of my dream cars.
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk 2 жыл бұрын
I still want a Panda "Sergio Taccini" & a Lancia Y10 "Fila"!
@ShoelessJP
@ShoelessJP 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you, Doug, for knowing how iconic this car was in Italy. Most people would see this and not think twice about it, but in Italy it was a very different story (as you noted). We had a family friend who was Italian-American and raved about these. Personally, I think there's some beauty with the simplicity of this car.
@danielr.y5261
@danielr.y5261 2 жыл бұрын
In Spain we had them everywhere too (via SEAT). This and the Ritmo, which you could see at local rally races too.
@acronus
@acronus 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielr.y5261 Princess May of the Geared Top had one too.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany Fiat Panda are everywhere, even today, many of my Friends first Car was a Fiat Panda and these Cars never made Issues either
@flynick
@flynick 2 жыл бұрын
You can still pick these up for under $200 in europe
@paoloballatori1643
@paoloballatori1643 2 жыл бұрын
@@flynick no way you could find one for that price. A used 4x4 can go as much as €8000, normal running ones are around couple of thousands euros.
@RangodoRafa
@RangodoRafa 2 жыл бұрын
If you count the Brazilian Uno/Mile, the panda platform lasted up to 2013
@Grau4rodasRaptor
@Grau4rodasRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Se falar que esse carro era vendido até 2013 no br esses cara não acreditariam 😂 e o acabamento do do video é bem mais maneiro que os 2013 kkkkkk
@mkgabriel
@mkgabriel 2 жыл бұрын
Uno é raiz.
@bernardogaetani
@bernardogaetani 2 жыл бұрын
not the same plataform. 2010 Uno MK2 shares plataform with New Panda. Classic Panda was smaller than Uno and never shared plataform. For european terms MK1 Uno was a compact (B Segment) and Panda a city-car (A Segment)
@adrianzanoli
@adrianzanoli 2 жыл бұрын
The Fiat Panda and the Fiat Uno were totally different platforms, the Uno was more advanced and actually quite a revoluctionary car for the era. The Fiat Panda platform was used on the Seat Marbella and the ID Capsula concept.
@notsaab
@notsaab 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Brazilian Fiat Uno based on the Italian Fiat Uno platform as well? They maybe shared the Fire engine, that was developed back in the 70s and it still is built with some tweaks, in fact the new Firefly engines are their evolution
@joseprupi
@joseprupi 2 жыл бұрын
The 4x4 with winter tires is hands down the best car on snow you will ever see and they are hard to find in mountain areas in Europe. It is fun to see them passing 100K German SUVs that are stuck on the roads
@Sbinott0
@Sbinott0 2 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of videos of pandas 4x4 towing stuck porsche cayenne/audi suv in the italian mountains
@joshimitsu96
@joshimitsu96 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@manuelg8050
@manuelg8050 2 жыл бұрын
The modern cars, expecially SUVs are: 1. Too heavy 2. Have tyres that are too wide I think
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 2 жыл бұрын
@@227conejo Many modern SUV has 4wd systems that arent any better for grip than this, regardless of tires. It is open diffs galore. The only thing saving them a bit is their traction control system, but it is often not calibrated very well for terrain driving, depending on model of SUV. Secondly, look at the ground clearance for many of them, this little car has oodles more than most of them.
@Lanciarules
@Lanciarules 2 жыл бұрын
Fiat Campagnola 1107a Is a lot better in snow
@carstenschipperen5827
@carstenschipperen5827 2 жыл бұрын
Remember: the mirror on the passenger side was an option you had to pay for on initial versions.
@AlbertManiscalco
@AlbertManiscalco 2 жыл бұрын
What’s your point?
@anderspedersen7488
@anderspedersen7488 Жыл бұрын
@@AlbertManiscalcoPoint being that the base model was as basic as could be. Sort of the Italian Citroen 2CV.
@gabamarsa
@gabamarsa 2 жыл бұрын
As an Italian it's so fun to see you reviewing my family's cars. My mum had a Multipla and my grandpa had a Panda 4x4 when I was a child, and I loved seeing them on your channel
@fedegiova
@fedegiova 2 жыл бұрын
My family got TWO of them: Panda30 Sept.1980 and Panda 750cc June 1988. I can only say that it reminds me about my childhood in the late ‘80 when we were basic but happy and with bright expectations from the future, everybody even the poorer italian ate well, owned a house and enjoyed a 5 weeks holiday from work. Nowadays we all have the latest iphone and we drive Audis but we are all stressed and smile-lacking.
@jimmyj1969
@jimmyj1969 2 жыл бұрын
Sad, but true - and it's the same all over Europe...
@stefanomarchi3542
@stefanomarchi3542 2 жыл бұрын
So true🥲
@babelhuber3449
@babelhuber3449 2 жыл бұрын
Please take off your rose tinted glasses. I love the 80ies because I was a teenager back then, but we had 3 TV programs, no internet, no mobile phones and generally everybody was poorer than today. I would never want to go back!
@fedegiova
@fedegiova 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely NOT true. In Italy GDP per capita was much higher in the ‘80s compared to now. And we all were working much less. Social benefits were high and none was complaining about the lack of jobs or the poor salary back then. Numbers are here in support: in the last 30 years almost 6 MILLIONS Italians expatriate, in the ‘80s none was expatriating. Nowadays unemployment is almost 20% of entire population and we have 4 millions living under poverty rate. Also, nowadays none is making kids as none have the economical power to mantain them, public schools and health care are struggling…. Need more?
@babelhuber3449
@babelhuber3449 2 жыл бұрын
@@fedegiova In 1980, the Italian GDP per capita was $8546, in 2019 it was $33566. Let's not talk about all the strikes, the political instability, terrorism and the Mafia of this time. Or how low the standard of living really was. Sure, everything was better back then! 🙄 Perhaps you were young back then? A lot of people make the mistake to look back with rose tinted glasses. Sure, 1980 was fun if you were 18. It also was exciting if you were 12. But let's facts be facts, please.
@vivienm7
@vivienm7 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Doug review a first-gen Renault Twingo. Somewhat similar to the Panda, has lots of cool space-optimizing features like a back seat that can be moved towards or backwards. Cute styling and unusual interior design too. (That being said, I don't know if anybody has imported one to North America - they're old enough by now, but this isn't exactly an RS3 or other cool enthusiast car.)
@TheOnlyKreator1
@TheOnlyKreator1 2 жыл бұрын
If I recall, I saw that there was a Craigslist add for a green one about a year or two ago in Texas (of all places), so at least one person brought one over
@Chelo_CAP1891
@Chelo_CAP1891 2 жыл бұрын
growing up in Uruguay, i remember i loved the yellow twingo my neighbor had bought! this was back in 95-98 somewhere around there
@claudiobizama5603
@claudiobizama5603 2 жыл бұрын
There's quite a cult following from the US, it wouldn't be surprising if someone imported them.
@alkoyyy
@alkoyyy 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing is that it's probably about the same size as the panda but you could fold the seats in a way so they would make a bed for actual grown adults. Also the folding roof...
@izno73
@izno73 2 жыл бұрын
Not similar. It was "just" a cute-looking regular car. The sliding backseat was introduced in the Mazda 121 (Ford Festiva) in 1988, already. Also was the Canvas-Top. But I still agree, a Twingo would be a nice feature.
@Centomila
@Centomila 2 жыл бұрын
As italian i've seen thousand of different Panda and drove at least 5 different variants in my lifetime... but i NEVER seen a Panda clean as the one in this video.
@Benjamin.Jamin.
@Benjamin.Jamin. 2 жыл бұрын
And no dents!!
@Centomila
@Centomila 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin.Jamin. Exactly. On my first job, i've had a Panda Van and was dented also from the inside :D
@mattydsmith
@mattydsmith 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first car. The side vents are directly connected to outside, I remember learning to drive in a Fiesta or a Micra, and then getting into this, and wondering why my face was getting wet when it rained. Turned out it was the side vents. My car had 1 singular vertical interior vent to heat the cabin.
@gglivetv
@gglivetv 2 жыл бұрын
Probabiy was an 80s version, the one tested by Doug was one of the latest models. I remember a first serie Panda 30 with vertical vent and seats 1 cm thick... When you suddenly stop you can hear the fuel moving into fuel tank.
@MegaSockenschuss
@MegaSockenschuss 2 жыл бұрын
I drove one once and the shift stick was so thin and long I had fears it would break. :D
@1963TOMB
@1963TOMB 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the K10 Micra was originally designed for Fiat but then used by Datsun/Nissan.
@Rankidu
@Rankidu 2 жыл бұрын
@@gglivetv It's the same, my father has one from 2003. side vents only purpose is to bring fresh air from outside. When it's not too hot, like in spring, it's really nice, becuase you get fresh air without opening the windows, so if it's raining (water doesn't get through usually, OP's car maybe had the seal broken) you keep the rain out of the car.
@nomad6-1
@nomad6-1 2 жыл бұрын
As a Panda owner myself, I waited for this review for years!! This car has been in the lives of tens of millions of people in Italy and believe me when I say there are places this car can go and a Defender or a G class won't, I've seen it with my eyes
@duncansmeraldi6192
@duncansmeraldi6192 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful, a car accident in that shitbox can be very dangerous
@nomad6-1
@nomad6-1 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncansmeraldi6192 I know. I actually own the 2nd gen Panda which is closer to a normal car in shape and chassis, but it's still kinda dangerous. But I have some friends who still have the original Panda, two of them regularly use them and one of the two is the legendary 4x4. At least it's so slow that you will rarely put yourself in serious danger. (I mean, I often see old dudes driving it at 120km/h (75mph) on the highway, but that's not really where it belongs). But there are thousands of beautiful old towns in Europe with narrow roads where these things are the only 4-wheel veichles that you will see, and that's their natural habitat. Also as I mentioned it can become an impressive offroader, and if you spend as little as 2000/3000€ on mods I'm 100% serious that it outperforms a Defender or a G-class in most situations.
@duncansmeraldi6192
@duncansmeraldi6192 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomad6-1 yes that's true. For city use should be just fine. Airbags probably will be useless after 20 years regardless if they are not replaced..
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
Places like an American style Italian hood that looks like Brooklyn or Bronx? What they be making a hood style pizza with pineapple? Sorry if this offends you especially pineapple on a pizza but I find this funny 🤣
@pierb2848
@pierb2848 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncansmeraldi6192 I'm positive that there was no airbag at all, at least in the early models
@davidrafael2994
@davidrafael2994 2 жыл бұрын
This truly is an icon of Italian automobiles. Happy to see you review one of these, Doug !!
@NakedPigeon
@NakedPigeon 2 жыл бұрын
It's a European automotive icon
@redpanda4279
@redpanda4279 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh my first car. Drove it for 9 years. That's why I use this nickname :D. Mine was 2002 without 4x4 but with same engine. Never got cold on winters and on summer what venting did the job ok but far from perfect. I climbed on snowy mountains with only winter tires without issues. On highways it could achieve easily 160km/h (top speed) but I kept it at 120. I will never forget when I followed offroad Micubushi Payero with 2 friends inside without any problems. Always had wired parking spot on busy beaches. Engine failure at 450.000km on odometer separated us so I had to scrap it :(.
@D0NH
@D0NH 2 жыл бұрын
years ago my parents had a "seat marbella" which was this exact same car, just rebranded by seat. incredibly cozy, tiny, basic, and a true legend.
@TheJetJONES
@TheJetJONES 2 жыл бұрын
Both the Fiat Panda and Seat Marbella were a common sight in Germany. And today? Fiat Panda: Not very often, but not that rare Seat Marbella: Extremely rare
@manugranturismo
@manugranturismo 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Spain we had both this and the seat panda, exactly the same car, the 4x4 versions are really capable off roaders and rally cars, even today, there's still a lot of them in northern/rural areas,heck, Carlos Sainz started his career with one
@daniel-ino
@daniel-ino 2 жыл бұрын
seat Marbella... trajectory is for missiles, bullets and cannons :D
@joaopedroribeiro
@joaopedroribeiro 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel-ino The Marbella had the old Fiat 127 engine!
@dminalba
@dminalba 2 жыл бұрын
Very popular as a rental car in Spanish resorts
@migteleco
@migteleco 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel-ino Previous to the Marbella, There was the SEAT Panda. The Marbella was a Panda restyling, that appeared later.
@karlk.6819
@karlk.6819 2 жыл бұрын
the seat marbella sucked even mroe that the original italian one lol
@emmedigi89
@emmedigi89 2 жыл бұрын
The Panda Young was the cheapest trim level on the catalog. It was intended for novice drivers or young people that wanted just a vehicle to move around. Other cheap models of the Fiat catalog from that era had the Young trim level too.
@Cnt805
@Cnt805 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Fiat Panda and I drive it every day. It is easy to maintain and very cheap. Parts are very cheap and available everywhere. It is easy to repair. I'm not a mechanic, but I fix everything on it myself. It is a very simple and nice car.
@M9quattro
@M9quattro 2 жыл бұрын
The panda was also one of the first cars produced in a (small) series also fully electric (Elettra) in 1990. Of this first generation, in addition to the 4x4 (manual only), 2wd was also produced with automatic transmission (CVT) and even diesel. The very first versions had rear seats that could become a sort of hammock ... Thanks Doug for the review !!!
@RickyDeContardi
@RickyDeContardi 2 жыл бұрын
I had the one with the "hammock" - it was a piece of design made of pure genius.
@M9quattro
@M9quattro 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickyDeContardi For those reasons too, the commercials said: "if it didn't exist, they should invent it"
@niklasdanielsen7366
@niklasdanielsen7366 2 жыл бұрын
The Selecta really is an underappreciated model, the cvt is great on low power cars. I drive my grandma's 1998 one
@marcopadovano5540
@marcopadovano5540 2 жыл бұрын
Fun facts about the Panda: the prototypes were burned by the Fiat employees because the Fiat managers wanted to build one in the south rather than the nord; the original one was presented in front of Italy’s then President Sandro Pertini; when they chose Giorgetto Giugiaro they told him the wanted a “huge small car” and that it had to be EXTREMELY SIMPLE in order to make sure that factory workers wouldn’t sabotage the cars, since there were many many political fights and strikes between the employees and the managers and sabotages were a daily occurrence…
@alenpejovic5472
@alenpejovic5472 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad Doug appreciates everything this iconic car is. You could actually get them with some "luxuries" like A/C, power windows, power locks, electronic headlight adjustment on later models, oh and an interesting quirk, the panda 1.1 actually uses the same coils as an Lamborghini Diablo 😅
@Jon-mo9ks
@Jon-mo9ks 2 жыл бұрын
Coil packs or spring coils?
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
Should it really matter if it uses the same coils as a Lambo? I don’t think so really. Speaking of fiat, or Stellantis, I find Alfa V6 using a Ferrari engine more interesting really
@S1lverArr0w
@S1lverArr0w 2 жыл бұрын
@@drippgxd Nobody questioned whether it matters or not. It was clearly a fun fact/tidbit of information for those who didn't know like myself. Nobody asked for your opinion, yet here you are stating it...
@alenpejovic5472
@alenpejovic5472 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jon-mo9ks coil packs
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
@@S1lverArr0w shut up you got triggered by a comment. Get a life bmw fanboy 😂
@mammorm
@mammorm 2 ай бұрын
Doug, you forgot to mention that the 4×4 in particular is one of the best off-road vehicles ever made. You can see videos of this small car towing away bigger SUVs stuck in snow or mud! This car is a legend. I am Italian, and it's part of our culture. When I was young, I always disliked it, but nowadays, even if it's ugly, I started to appreciate it. In fact, I just bought a Panda MK1 today.
@frand2701
@frand2701 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Italian. Here we have respect for this car. We've all seen in the mountain roads doing things that a Renge Rover can't do. Where off-road vehicles stop she goes on.
@davidem02
@davidem02 2 жыл бұрын
*Where a real off Road veichle stop She stops far earlyer😅
@Sbinott0
@Sbinott0 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidem02 dude you have no idea, that panda can climb walls, there’s nothing stopping it
@automation7295
@automation7295 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sbinott0 A train can stop it and completely destroy any car.
@alex-025x
@alex-025x 2 жыл бұрын
@@automation7295 you dont get the point. This panda will destroy any g class out there and jeep
@Sbinott0
@Sbinott0 2 жыл бұрын
@@automation7295I was talking about terrain not moving objects
@sn4tx
@sn4tx 2 жыл бұрын
Just a little remark, every time Doug says an icon in Italy, you see it in Italy etc etc. read Italy as Europe. This car is an Italian European icon. We love this this little thing. Not Many years ago I had to drop my modern Audi in the middle of nowhere car shop due to a faulty spark plug during a long weekend out. It was closed and he couldn’t work on the car immediately so he very humbly asked if I wouldn’t mind to take his loaner if I wanted to still enjoy my weekend. It was a freaken panda 4x4. I was just like yoo I don’t even know if I gonna bring it back. Gimme panda to me. Fuck AC. I had a lot of fun.
@petersuchansky6703
@petersuchansky6703 2 жыл бұрын
fully understand. owning the sama as in video. Hope you did not engage that 4x4 on tarmac.
@LucaCapuozzo
@LucaCapuozzo 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how Doug can review a panda being enthusiastic exactly the same as reviewing a Bugatti, if not even more.
@ChrisFalk2
@ChrisFalk2 2 жыл бұрын
That's what makes him great.
@k900-x1z
@k900-x1z Жыл бұрын
May be because his origins Name is SARDINIAN ❤❤.... 😊
@alpine1600s
@alpine1600s Жыл бұрын
Panda>new Bugatti.
@nicoloangioni9168
@nicoloangioni9168 Жыл бұрын
​@@k900-x1zNennixee
@gianvitoribaudo4564
@gianvitoribaudo4564 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 96 Panda 4x4 Country Club and I absolutely love it. It’s one of my favourite cars, this tiny little off road toy can do anything, trust me.
@Feix
@Feix 2 жыл бұрын
My 1st car was a Panda...a 1000CL In Germany we called it "tolle Kiste" which roughly translates to "great box" (super duper box). It had 45 furious horses and was a blast to drive 27 years ago
@NakedPigeon
@NakedPigeon 2 жыл бұрын
The early seats were even more "primitive", they were basically some like garden chairs. My brother in law had one of the early version, and whenever we went on the freeway. And going around 100 kmh, you could see the bonnet and fenders "flapping" in the wind. Scared the crap out of me, but he thought (and still does) it's the best car ever
@ToolkiT73UK
@ToolkiT73UK 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say.. the rear bench was like a hammock.. not comfortable at all!
@petersuchansky6703
@petersuchansky6703 2 жыл бұрын
If he had that one with 4x4 than he probably had a best car product ever. My one is like this in dougs rewiew. Still greatest car butt that hammock seats were best.
@avtomad722
@avtomad722 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the UK driving my friends Panda 1000CL in black back in the 90's, they were a really wealthy family, and a Panda was not seen as the poor persons choice - it had universal appeal, something lacking these days. Great car to drive in its pure simplicity.
@honestyisthegucci
@honestyisthegucci 2 жыл бұрын
A VW Golf can do that
@MaximilianvonPinneberg
@MaximilianvonPinneberg 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the same period or at least in the 80s middle class families would have 2cv as the second car. As for the Golf comment, the Golf was often seen as a little ostentatious for a second shopping car.
@dindinbre
@dindinbre 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg a Golf was almost seen as a luxury
@honestyisthegucci
@honestyisthegucci 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg I was referring to standards nowadays. Multi millionaires drive Golfs as well as upper working class.
@acciid
@acciid 2 жыл бұрын
How bourgeois. The peasants made do with the 750.
@DomDeVille
@DomDeVille 2 жыл бұрын
The door handle (or lack thereof) looks cool. That shaved look is stylish.
@andreamanna8349
@andreamanna8349 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you managed to review a Panda! Two quick notes: those two vents on each side of the dashboard are not defoggers. They are connected directly to those two grill outside of the car, under the windshield, and they sorta act like an air conditioner. Basically if you take them off you are left with two holes in the body of the car. The defoggers are those slits between them. And under the spare tire there's also a crank style car jack which slots in that square shaped hole under the frame in the middle of the car.
@steogrillhouse
@steogrillhouse 2 жыл бұрын
not mentioning the double screwdriver beside the spare tyre
@karlk.6819
@karlk.6819 2 жыл бұрын
ah callate with this huge piece of crap, useless car
@kbtred51
@kbtred51 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlk.6819 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJfFp2OnnJdsb68 same idea updated
@petersuchansky6703
@petersuchansky6703 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlk.6819 says useless person.
@petersuchansky6703
@petersuchansky6703 2 жыл бұрын
What a bummer for demuro this rewiew.
@Fix3rJ0e
@Fix3rJ0e 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly love cars like this. Breaking the norm of regular automobiles. I wouldn't mind seeing more tours of cars like this. Doug's a good reviewer and I really enjoyed his walkthough on this.
@doctoremil2678
@doctoremil2678 2 жыл бұрын
It has to be said that Fiat still has a model called Panda in the lineup. Panda is now a conventional city car, except that it still has a 4x4 version, and it's shockingly capable off road.
@pedrohenriquedoprado125
@pedrohenriquedoprado125 2 жыл бұрын
In Brazil the Italian icon is the fiat uno mille, when you come here you need to test this car
@lwprzybysz
@lwprzybysz 2 жыл бұрын
This March I went to Italy to ski. There were two of those parking every single day in front of my window. In a tiny kind of village where there was just a shop, a few apartment buildings and the ski lift boarding station. And there were more of these anywhere you went around. And dozens of their successors - the modern second and third generation Pandas too. I love them all
@gglivetv
@gglivetv 2 жыл бұрын
And newest 4x4 ones are worst...
@Sbinott0
@Sbinott0 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting quirk: some models had seats that folded down to make the whole interior space a full sized bed, you can imagine what was the target for that
@anujeetroy9715
@anujeetroy9715 2 жыл бұрын
Camping in the car while stopping at a remote location during off the trails drive?
@Sbinott0
@Sbinott0 2 жыл бұрын
@@anujeetroy9715 yeeeees, specially if you consider that the panda was every young person’s first car, that italians live with their parents till late, and that we all love a good camporella
@DanielRevay
@DanielRevay 2 жыл бұрын
The Fiat Panda "My Wife Kicked Me Out" Package
@anujeetroy9715
@anujeetroy9715 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sbinott0 I can totally relate. I won't survive an entire month without getting a chance to drive out into the wilderness for some quality solo time
@DanielRevay
@DanielRevay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sbinott0 bro im from Romania i was joking
@its_acciaiopuro_ca1289
@its_acciaiopuro_ca1289 2 жыл бұрын
Wow as an Italian I'm so happy to see the Panda here! My parents had one, very much less "luxurious" than the Country Club, that already had a lot of features. And btw, the Panda 4x4 can give a run for its money to range rovers in mountain roads and off road paths, they were actually used by Italian police to chase smugglers in the Italian Alps!
@stephanembaye
@stephanembaye 2 жыл бұрын
My first car when I was a student. An older model even more basic than this one. So smart, very reliable and you can customize or fix it with a simple screwdriver... I miss it!
@razorback20
@razorback20 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I really underappreciated that car because of its suspension (or lack thereof), abysmal gear shift and lack of stability at 'high' speed. But in hindsight I realize it was a good little car that masterfully did the job it was designed for.
@stephanembaye
@stephanembaye 2 жыл бұрын
@@razorback20 "does the job"... You're right!
@yscrx8843
@yscrx8843 2 жыл бұрын
Born and lived all my life in Italy here. With my friends and family we say that the Panda is THE car. We've had a few in my family and it's the ultimate city car. And they are now actually going up in value and which actually makes me happy because just now people are realizing what a true masterpiece it is. Glad you gave it some attention
@duncansmeraldi6192
@duncansmeraldi6192 2 жыл бұрын
La panda no vale verga
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
Born and lived all my life in America here. With my friends and family we say that the Ford Super duty F450 platinum with power stroke is THE car. We’ve had a few in my dads ranch in Upper Peninsula Michigan and it’s the ultimate pickup truck. And my family are now actually going up in value because my father is a rich guy and he bought a brand new 2020 F450 platinum with $100k. He does horse racing for a living, and he wins all the time, so my dad gets paid like $50K for winning the UP (Upper peninsula) horse battle once every year. And he went to Kentucky with the F450 with the horse trailer in the back for the Kentucky Derby. There, his horse is the best in that competition, and he won. If my dad increases his life value to $10M+ then he’ll buy land in Texas and build the best ranch in the state. I mean UP Michigan is like countryside, not the LP doods where this trash city called Detroit is.
@yscrx8843
@yscrx8843 2 жыл бұрын
@@drippgxd gr8 b8
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
@@yscrx8843 yeah my dads life value is higher then yours….
@yscrx8843
@yscrx8843 2 жыл бұрын
@@drippgxd goo goo ga ga
@realgtasacramentodashcam7292
@realgtasacramentodashcam7292 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't help but fall in love with the "regular" cars that Doug reviews.
@Littlegoatpaws
@Littlegoatpaws 2 жыл бұрын
I like these vids the best too. I mean yes the super cars, quirky concept cars, and high dollar luxury vehicles are fun and interesting, but most people don't drive those and never will. Most people have driven the "every" car, and some of yesterday's every-car have become nostalgic curiosities in automotive history that bring back a lot of fond, and sometimes not so fond memories with people and show how far performance and comfort have come over the years and what ideas have failed, succeeded, or were just too ahead of their time.
@theoneandonlyAeth
@theoneandonlyAeth 2 жыл бұрын
The OG panda is like IKEA furniture, it's cheap and basic but incredibly well designed to do exactly what it sets out to do. You have to admire how good it is at what it's made for.
@drippgxd
@drippgxd 2 жыл бұрын
IKEA furniture lmao hey atleast you get the things you want on the spot without waiting a month for bed frame to come
@mysneaker8234
@mysneaker8234 Жыл бұрын
8:08 those speakers are stock, my dad had a Panda 700 when I was little.
@Mladjasmilic
@Mladjasmilic 2 жыл бұрын
I once was to Mt. Vesuvius, and there was old Panda 4x4, going up rocky path between tourists delivering supplies to the caffe on the summit. No other car could go path that narrow or do less damage to landscape. As of part that everyone had a Panda or new somebody who had one: My friend had a Panda as first car. His exhaust has fallen off (he hot a pothole while transporting 8 people in a Panda), so middle of exhaust pipe was dragging along the road. Because of that he could not reverse, as car would get stuck. His solution was to lift the car, move it around, so he can turn the car around. He did it for 3 weeks, because he was so lazy not to get peace of wire and tie it up. Lazy to tie it up, but not to lift the car to turn it around. That is how light Panda is.
@jmpersic
@jmpersic 2 жыл бұрын
As a young American visiting Italy the first time, I'll never forget seeing one of these in a hill town, and being impressed with the fact it was a 4x4.
@danielespazzali9148
@danielespazzali9148 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Italian, I know many people who either have or have had one of these and it’s so cool to see you review this car. I’ve been following you for quite a long time now and I’ve been wondering if one day this review would come, and it did! Thank you, this is amazing.
@marco.broglia
@marco.broglia 2 жыл бұрын
The first version by Giugiaro was even simpler, but cleverer: There was a fabric pocket on pax side and the possibility to fold the seat and the bench to sleep in the car... amazing
@stejer211
@stejer211 2 жыл бұрын
They kept the double bed part.
@philrogers5851
@philrogers5851 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Panda 4x4 is THE national car of Andorra, the mountainous mini state in Europe. Poor, rich or government official, they all drive the Panda 4x4
@jurivlk5433
@jurivlk5433 2 жыл бұрын
There was an electric version of this in the late 80's. It had only two seats and the back seats were replaced by 600 kg of batteries. It had four speeds and a complete clutch! Max. speed was like 70 km/h and range was like zero. The the battery changement was two expensive so the almost new car was finally wrecked.
@gglivetv
@gglivetv 2 жыл бұрын
was awful, a little more than a prototype... they made less than 20 if I remember right...
@jurivlk5433
@jurivlk5433 2 жыл бұрын
@@gglivetvYes, they were awful, as awful as electric "cars" still are! I think they built over 1000 pieces and together with the Citroen Saxo were the most built electric cars after WW II. In Switzerland they were sold under the brand of "Larel". 600 kg of lead-acid batteries for a range of 30-60 km!
@vinterskugge907
@vinterskugge907 2 жыл бұрын
@@jurivlk5433 Given that the Model 3 Long Range gets around 500 km of range on 480 kg of batteries - it's fair to say that EVs have gotten quite far since then!
@jurivlk5433
@jurivlk5433 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinterskugge907 An ultra light Diesel car can make over 1000 km with 1 liter of Diesel or 900g! A long way to go for your Tesla!
@OneGwa
@OneGwa 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jurivlk5433 Owner of a Larel here. It's more like 280kg of batteries (14 x 12V 80Ah AGM batteries), which only leaves about 200kg of legal load capacity including occupants. To my understanding, the Larel came before the officiel Elettra sold by Fiat. The larel is more a kind of prototype. The Elettra is way better finished!
@tiborhorvath7359
@tiborhorvath7359 2 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Doug, wonderful review.The panda 4x4 gen one had a proper rear differential, steyer Puch in Austria did the work and they cost almost double the price of the two wheel drive version. We would see them in St Moritz in the 80’s.Many of the locals had them.It’s a very capable car in the snow and hills.Sure they were rust prone but a few are still around, their mechanicals are tough. Even today the later generations of 4x4 pandas are popular in the Swiss and Italian ski resorts. Thank you for the video, it brought back warm memories
@thesunreport
@thesunreport 2 жыл бұрын
Those ones also had a Puch badge on the back I think.
@jamesinbradford5882
@jamesinbradford5882 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1987 Panda 4x4 in 1997 my first car. I serviced it myself, replaced the sunroof from a scrapyard myself. The rear wiper was squeaking like mad in pouring rain once then it stopped, it had fallen off. When it snowed it was awesome, went past nearly every car no problem. I’m in the UK .
@AlexisTichko
@AlexisTichko 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Belgian guy and especially being a kid at the time it came out and a youg adult when they still sold it, it was one of my all favourit cars. I was never the typical guy that wanted a fat sportscar. I was and still am the guy that loves small, practical and most important of all, quirky cars. I loved the Panda just as I loved the Lada 2107, the Skoda 1300, The Fiat Uno, the Suzuki Alto and Swift. I even very much loved the Fiat 127 but that was too small for me. To bad you didn't have the opportunity to test drive the Panda Selecta with a variomatic transmission.
@maranhello69
@maranhello69 2 жыл бұрын
In France, there was another special edition of the Panda 4x4, which was called "Var d'Isère". Off-road capabilities of this little car was rather surprising, I remember seeing one climbing a small, steep, rock-filled path in the mountains.
@dannymartial7997
@dannymartial7997 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest pet peeve about new cars is the lack of visibility. Old cars had tiny pillars which made it feel so open like you could see everything around you. I'd give up airbags and safety features to gain visibility any day. 20:25
@Fra42below
@Fra42below 3 ай бұрын
You missed the most important thing about that 4x4 Panda. She can outperform ANY and i say ANY modern SUV in an off-road, snowy mountainous environment
@frederikebert1985
@frederikebert1985 2 жыл бұрын
The early fwd version of the Panda were even simpler and more spartan that this ‘luxurious’ 4x4. The 4x4 system was developed by Steyr-Puch an Austrian company (which is Magna today). My best buddy got rear-ended in an early Panda - a miracle he survived the crash.
@dickie8184
@dickie8184 2 жыл бұрын
My first car in 1998, in the UK. Same colour with a roof rack and a bull bar. Was just front wheel drive though. Brilliant car. Unfortunately I wrote it off pulling the handbrake in the rain. The standard models did have rear, and front badges. Fiat coupe 20VT review soon please Doug.
@adrianzanoli
@adrianzanoli 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if there are any Coupe 20V Turbo in the US he can review.
@dickie8184
@dickie8184 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianzanoli I know there's a few in Canada. So thought the USA would've had a few.
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 2 жыл бұрын
I still saw plenty of them in AWD form in South Tyrol last summer. It is the perfect car for that region of the world.
@hansmeyer7225
@hansmeyer7225 2 жыл бұрын
Are there no Subaru Justys in South Tyrol?
@gabry96colo
@gabry96colo 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansmeyer7225 no , was never imported in italy. most common "mountain cars" here are the panda, the suzuki jimmy. There were the old mitsubishi pajero 3 door, Dahiatsu terios 3 door , old renault megane 4x4... Basically all really small cars that have great offroad capability. in italy there are places you can't reach with a jeep or Land Rover beacause they're too big (most moutain trails are really narrow). Theese cars will do for cheaper and wasting less fuel.
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansmeyer7225 I haven't seen one.
@JK061996
@JK061996 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansmeyer7225 my great uncle had a 1st gen but there weren't many. The 2nd gen (a rebadged Swift) was slightly more popular but nothing like the Panda.
@lorisperfetto6021
@lorisperfetto6021 2 жыл бұрын
Some friends of mine travelled to Mongolia with a fiat panda. From italy
@alessioriso9671
@alessioriso9671 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing some of italian semplicity in the world! Every italian as either owened a Panda or has a relative/friend with a Panda. Personally is the first car i ever drove, and my uncle used a 20 years old Panda to transport building materials for his house, and it never had a major problem
@ThiemenDoppenberg
@ThiemenDoppenberg 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally reviewing the Panda! It was my first car and it was really fun to start with. Super reliable. Only negative side effect is that these Pandas were very rusty. My car needed a totally new exhaust line and some other welding and panels in order to stay legal for the road (even though it was produced in 2003, the last year of its production). Because of its simplicity, I could mess around with installing electronics like custom LED strips under the 'dashboard', charging ports, and a 1300W subwoofer in the back. I even changed the dashboard ligthing itself into a LED strip that was configured with an Arduino to display any color I wanted! So cool to be able to do that. I had it in 2017/18. Even in freezing temperatures, the little engine had never trouble starting. Once I had 6 people in the car on a night out. It was really tight and because of the weight, it had trouble accelerating😂😂 All in all a super fun car which shows that simplicity is sometimes a good thing!
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk 2 жыл бұрын
They are very reliable, despite their reputation, & if the timing belt snaps, no problem, change it at the side of the road (only need 3 sockets) & 15 minutes later, you can carry on! The worst thing was the doors, the drain holes weren't at the bottom, so the water would sit & rust the door bottoms out (& after 3 facelifts, they still didn't bother sorting that issue out!).
@ThiemenDoppenberg
@ThiemenDoppenberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPabsUk Yeah! In the automatic car wash, the water literally entered the car through multiple spots in the door. Crazy 😂
@TheJpedro14
@TheJpedro14 2 жыл бұрын
It is funny to see Doug constantly talking about the Panda’s simplicity, while in South America we only got its little brother, the Fiat Uno, that is even simpler!
@gglivetv
@gglivetv 2 жыл бұрын
In Italy was the opposite: the Panda was the cheap utilitarian sub compact, the Uno was much reifned and nice (and defintiely more expensive).
@TheJpedro14
@TheJpedro14 2 жыл бұрын
@@gglivetv I had no idea about that! In Brazil, the Unos were made either locally or in Argentina, and were among the cheapest cars available from the mid 80s until 2010s. At least there were several special versions with a bit more quality and performance, such as the Uno 1.6R and the Uno Turbo (first turbocharged car in Brazil). Nowadays, people in Brazil and Argentina are making insane builds with these cars due to the availability of cheap parts.
@contabelta
@contabelta 2 жыл бұрын
Na real o Uno e maior que o Panda, em tudo, motores, equipamento, dimensões etc. o Panda era menor que o 147.
@ianferreiraian
@ianferreiraian 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJpedro14 Eu acho o visual do Uno mais agradável e proporcional. Apesar de que a traseira do Panda lembra a traseira do Lancia Delta.
@MrPabsUk
@MrPabsUk 2 жыл бұрын
The Uno is the bigger brother (& is nicer to drive, as its slightly wider, so goes round corners better).
@Dj3ndo
@Dj3ndo 2 жыл бұрын
Living in the US now but born and raised in The Netherlands. My mom had like 3 of these growing up! Awesome little cars. Simple but does the job!
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the Fiat Panda 4x4 from the first generation may have been among the first "crossover" all-wheel drive vehicle for the masses, along with the Lada Niva.
@tosil
@tosil 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that bugged me as a 5-8 year old living in Europe… the “one reverse and one fog light” setup. As a kid, I didn’t know the red was a fog light, I just thought… hey, as long as people see the white one while they are backing up, it’s all we as pedestrians need lol.
@kaisersoymilk6912
@kaisersoymilk6912 2 жыл бұрын
In Italy, the Panda Van was the "official car" of the telephone company's repair guys. It was white with the company logo on the sides.
@matte.o_g
@matte.o_g Жыл бұрын
I'm a 21 years old italian and i recently bought a 1988 fiat panda 4x4 and i absolutely love it, it's the italian dream car, it's like a little tank, you can go everywhere with this and never break it, italians use it on mountains, in countryside, in city. Every kid of this generation has some older relative with a panda and everyone dreams of a panda. After 21 years i now have the opportunity to love it more as i already loved it. I am always amazed of how is the smallest on the outside but on the inside there's more space than in my father's land rover Freelander
@giovanni8943
@giovanni8943 2 жыл бұрын
As an italian, i have to add an essential piece of information. The panda is equipped with the mist efficient safety devices, such as the cross hanged on the mirror, which prevents incidents that would otherwise be deadly.
@iulian9245
@iulian9245 2 жыл бұрын
The ash Trey not only slides, it also detaches and could be attached in the headrests of the seats for the passengers. The Panda is my first car and when me and my friends go somewhere we always argue for the ash trey
@96elixx
@96elixx 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss, finally the car I wanted you to cover. This is indeed our most iconic car, everyone loves it, everyone wanted one at one point in their life hahah thanks Doug
@automation7295
@automation7295 2 жыл бұрын
How can everyone love the Panda when it was never sold in the States?
@96elixx
@96elixx 2 жыл бұрын
@@automation7295 "everyone in Italy" i meant haha sorry, thought it was implied
@automation7295
@automation7295 2 жыл бұрын
@@96elixx Not all Italians drive these, most did or still do.
@J-Anderson
@J-Anderson Жыл бұрын
5:35 What's bad about cars that have exposed bodywork on the inside is that if lightning strikes the car and the people inside touch the exposed bodywork they can be electrically discharged by lightning.
@alexger85
@alexger85 2 жыл бұрын
one of the best car designs ever! my mother had one for over 20 years and it just kept on going. wonderful machine.
@Xenon0000000000001
@Xenon0000000000001 2 жыл бұрын
My Mum had the (even more) basic version of the Fiat Panda in the 80s. The seats had half the thickness/padding for those in the 4x4 version shown here and the back seats were just a pole with fabric stretched across and maybe a tiny bit of padding. Combined with the harsh suspension, it really wasn't in any way comfortable. The one we had was also a rust bucket, which was the norm for Pandas in the UK. Going from that to the most basic Fiesta of the late 80s felt like a massive improvement.
@lorenzor2555
@lorenzor2555 2 жыл бұрын
Questa Panda però è una delle ultime versioni della prima serie, ma soprattutto è la 4 x 4 (una versione speciale, la “country club”), che non era così diffusa e comune. È una specie di mini Jeep fuoristrada. Sarebbe stato più significativo recensire le primissime versioni base della prima serie, quelle uscite dalla penna di Giugiaro (se ben ricordo c’erano la “30” e la “45”), che erano ancora molto più spartane e basiche, nonché più pulite ed interessanti come design (io ne ho avute due, una con un bellissimo tetto in tela completamente apribile, che ho usato a lungo nella casa del mare). Doug avrebbe dovuto provare la Panda 4 x 4 fuori strada, dove si rivela un vero trattore capace di andare ovunque
@fabioquinto
@fabioquinto Жыл бұрын
penso che sia anni 2001
@gabrielecossettini2923
@gabrielecossettini2923 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap and practical and you are driving the most luxurious version. I've started to drive with an 1986 Panda 750 S (who as badges on the rear). The S version is most similar to the one you have except for the EFi engine and the inclinometer. But came out with a stereo and a clock. The C and CL versions of the same year have 4 speeds instead of five, no door glovebox and trims (bare metal) no stereo, no clock, no front ashtray. The PANDA is a status symbol
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