The Car Market is Cooling? Are Manual Swaps a Good Idea? Porsche Ditches Gasoline! THIS CAR POD! #17

[@AndrewD923]

Kennen smugly asking if people don't understand depreciation last week while spending over a grand a month to keep a $20k car on the road is incredibly funny.

[@joelcrookston]

It is truly peak Kennen

[@kamepapa1302]

Without his BMW stories he is doug boring friend

[@snupermoto723]

Kennan justifies his E39 like a battered spouse justifies their relationship.

[@somenygaard]

The spouse is delusional and thinks he will eventually change or that she deserves the treatment. Kennan knows exactly where he stands with that car and has decided it’s not even worth a second thought. The car is worth every penny and far more to him. I spent many years in law enforcement and it’s not really something that I personally would ever joke about after witnessing these relationships play out. They go both ways more often than people realize. I’m not saying you should not joke about it. Just that you may consider it one day. God Bless.

[@hellocar123]

by kennans logic, any car is reliable as long as you spend 5x its value repairing it

[@NickM-qi4sq]

BMW fanboy logic. “My car is perfectly reliable! You just have to do this, this, this this….” that inevitably adds up to $10k per year. No. Just no. These people are either in denial and/or insane.

[@FranciscoDiaz-vf7mc]

If your primary concern is just keeping the car running then you can probably get away with it for a fraction of what he spends lol. But when you start chasing perfection, and when you have a specialized shop working on your car, and when you are talking about a 235k mile car, then you start getting big repair bills. A lot of it is a matter of the owner’s personal tolerance for imperfection. Some people are just happy with a car that runs and drives.

[@andycalifornia426]

@@NickM-qi4sq And then you have the crowd that says that if a car is reliable, it's boring. Do you remember how Jeremy Clarkson deduced that reliability makes a car boring?

[@Affalterbach1967]

There is a maintenance logic about replacing parts every M months or K kilometres (not just oil, at 6 months 10,000km) but belts, hoses, bushings, cleaning intake (direct injection), and exhaust valves every 5 years 80,000km. Diligent maintenance may look excessive to the uninitiated when you replace a plastic water pump every 50,000 km 'as a precaution'.

[@Parrotdise290]

Rich guy's logic...

[@MrBugout]

For the love of Doug, edit the video with the local feed instead of the zoom feed. Up your game and have Doug film local and send the video after and sync it in post.

[@atmartens]

They couldn’t care less. Thank you

[@iv4ir]

@@atmartens*couldn’t

[@vipvopvoy2350]

For a millionaire, the production value of Dougs videos are so bad it’s laughable

[@HirschPower]

@@atmartenscouldn’t* care less

[@juanburrito5119]

Another “THIS car pod” to fuel my car enthusiasts needs. Always enjoy these, thanks guys.

[@gn8821]

The lagginess makes this a hard watch ⌚️

[@monsieurdildo]

Certified diamond 😅

[@israelchildress4523]

Needs anti lag tune 💀

[@ewadge]

The Mach E is sold in Europe. The Explorer is not the ID 7 but is based on the platform which underpins the VW ID 3, ID4 and Enyaq. The Capri is basically the VW ID 5 with the Capri body on top.

[@tfr86]

ID.7 is based on the MEB platform as well.

[@wtfgogu]

They don't care, they just like the crap on the electric cars.

[@ForgetfulFoot]

981 Base Cayman owner here. Its extremely sad to see the future 718 going fully electric. It also means GTS 4.0s, GT4 and RS models will essentially never come down. Such a shame.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

I wonder if Lotus Emiras will become more popular as a result. How many people will reject an EV Cayman and reach for the only equivalent?

[@hellocar123]

@@garythecyclingnerd6219most current cayman owners probably

[@ForgetfulFoot]

@garythecyclingnerd6219 it does seem like the logical car to move to. Especially if the Emira has good reliability and parts aren't an issue. But I personally cannot afford that tier of car. A GTS, GT4 or Emira is well over double the price of my base 981 or 4cyl 718. And I think once the current crop of performance coupes die off. The segment will essentially die off completely.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@@ForgetfulFoot We’ll see, but Lotus Emira prices will drop. You’ll be able to find a clean one for $50k in a few years. However, mid engine, manual, ICE, will only be getting more expensive. For us brokies, eventually only front engine options will be available for relatively new cars.

[@RDEnduro]

​For double the price, your getting 95% of the experienc with your base model@@ForgetfulFoot

[@DrewIV]

Why is the Cars & Bids studio getting so much video lag?

[@hippostalker52]

Overlay from Doug’s computer might have something to do with it

[@CB21001]

Glad someone mentioned this, I thought YT was bugging haha

[@JoeUrbanYYC]

Yeah it's almost like it's being recorded from Doug's end with the studio being the remote connection

[@xsleep1]

They really should work on this. Very distracting. Just record the San Diego footage to a separate file and stitch them together in post. Or try another app instead of Zoom.

[@CarsofGlasgow]

I was wondering if it was my internet or is it just lagging for everyone?

[@jamesmurmurzancone4532]

Doug the kind of guy who drops his shorts down to his ankles when at an urinals

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

I could absolutely see this

[@babybladeboy]

What the fk is this comment 😂😂

[@Jamaicanmon]

10/10

[@somenygaard]

You are the type of guy who gets excited about it.

[@babyblue7731]

im crying bro🤣🤣

[@9464toddly]

I love these m5 interventions 😂😂😂

[@lsltigeking]

Kennan is such a purist that it annoys me, but I still respect it..

[@fnikacevic]

Sam might be the best podcast talent here - more Sam please!

[@marshallney3885]

Sam is a natural

[@johnmiller933]

Agreed!

[@jort1207]

Yep. More Sam.

[@marc-olivierlavoie1669]

YES !!!! more Sam !!!

[@brodygoodwine4448]

YES, more Sam. I could do without Felipo interrupting constantly.

[@flipsub]

I love how you mention doing a pretend car project over the weekend with “a couple of cold ones” on every podcast episode 😂

[@LtNduati]

"The company that no longer exists just recalled your car" What a time to be alive

[@AsamatBagatov135]

i really like sam (i also like filipo)

[@kevinnistor1954]

I do not like filipo that much

[@kingkong_style]

I saw a fisker ocean in Kentucky yesterday. It's one thing to roll the dice on that thing in California but I bet there's no one to work on that thing within 500 miles in any direction from here lol

[@concinnus]

Dunno if y'all noticed, but your dungeon cam keeps dropping to

[@norwegiantechnolover]

"Dungeon cam" 😂😂😂

[@Affalterbach1967]

21:04 Doug is finally excited about low selling prices on Cans and Bids. Great news for buyers and new consumers.

[@BMWEnjoyer]

Doug and Cars and Bids are making the best car content on KZbin right now hands down. Cars and Bids as a company is incredible and is doing so much for the car community. I check all of the listings every day its amazing.

[@thomaswilliams1533]

Kennans car trying to cook him alive lmao

[@hlothr]

Glad the pod has an ev owner in the rotation. Enjoy the R1T Sam. Also, someone needs to convince Kennan to save the M5 for weekend use and lease an R1T (or honestly any other car).

[@sirremusrobinson1070]

Porsche is gonna take a bath same way Mercedes is with those EQSs.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

The EV Macan will sell very well. All the rich SoCal moms will happily buy one. The EV Cayman…I’m sure will drive well but I don’t know about numbers. The EQS though, I cannot believe anyone buys. It’s aggressively ugly.

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

@@garythecyclingnerd6219I agree wholeheartedly

[@Kataru.]

@@garythecyclingnerd6219 The EQS looks like an Apple Magic Mouse.

[@stran-air-jordan]

​@garythecyclingnerd6219 Base EV Macan is like twice the base price of the ICE. Idk if the moms will be able to justify the $800-1000 lease payments lol

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@@stran-air-jordan The rich are very rich right now. I don’t think they’ll have issues.

[@YeeSoest]

Did I hear someone call it the new De-Escalade the other day?😅

[@grunkohlaktionar7474]

No mention of the Prelude?

[@thekernel69]

This was pre recorded before the prelude was announced im pretty sure

[@grunkohlaktionar7474]

@@thekernel69 no, because the Capri info came out a few days later

[@jeremyclares4851]

And yes no yes mention about the Sonata N-Line?

[@kzed]

the prelude was revealed months ago

[@atmartens]

They probably won’t mention it because it’s not stupid expensive, German or Italian. They don’t care about anything related to normal people.

[@edwardestrella3872]

Love these podcasts and I especially like it when they bring friends in, Sam is cool!!!

[@tonymoreton7166]

Porsche will poker face it out for as long as possible, but they'll have top secret plans to slot an ICE into next Boxster/Cayman at the last minute when sales tank & the brown stuff hits the fan.

[@syedrehanfida]

Why does the office video stutter so much?

[@kyleelliott512]

thought it was my computer, but the last few pod episode videos have been very glitchy and laggy. also kennan really needs to get out of that BMW

[@jo1948]

Time to buy the E39 M5 service manual, wrenches, and some jack stands! A great long term investment.

[@MrJeepmarine]

It's so weird that these "car guys" don't actually do any work/mataince on cars, just joke about it with a few cold ones.

[@mikeLOL45424]

This is my favorite podcast. Please keep this rolling! You guys are awesome!

[@mortensenvick5711]

Doug u forgot the escalade is like x2 segment bigger size than the rivian R1S :)

[@gordonstarship]

25:25 Literally every day something breaks on Kennan's excellently engineered vehicle.

[@somenygaard]

Who is the guy building the Land Rover? Easily my favorite . Definitely the funniest.

[@markspark7347]

Sam has the best podcast voice ever just loving it!! 😊

[@ChaosArises]

Doug the kinda guy who tells the editor to sync to his zoom screen cause the people need to see his audio synced to his video while the team at the office look like dog cheeks xD

[@ozarkliving7263]

Dead meme. Stupid and irrelevant comment. You are humorous. Grow up.

[@TheVaultIsMine]

As a Brit, the Capri is very well loved over here and the response to the new Capri has not been particularly warm indeed 😅 My Uncle had a late model Capri in black, it was bloody fast I thought it was the coolest thing on four wheels, he's probably rapidly rotating in his grave upon seeing this new Polestar look-a-like

[@orjan-j2881]

I like the new guy , keep him around

[@twoand4]

We were in Amsterdam in March and April and the Mach-E was all over the place. They're Ubers

[@honestyisthegucci]

Most underpowered sportscar? How about a base spec 3rd Gen Firebird. Like 90hp with a huge body and huge engine. Or second gen Mustang or any late 70s base spec muscle car really

[@ayo_ozi]

1) the video lag makes this a hard watch. 2) Kennan, sell your M5 for a lower mileage one for the money you’re spending or stop putting that much money into it.

[@drunkenhobo8020]

How did they go from talking about the DeLorean to underpowered sports cars and _not_ mention the DeLorean?

[@derdoctor1895]

Absolutely disgusting that Cayman goes electric and you all so chill about it.

[@Ninja6485]

So they "fixed" the 355 by keeping the parts that suck and changing the parts everyone loves. Great work fellas

[@jimbo5728]

Doug the kind of guy to use a $5 microphone

[@bradfordstearman11]

I love Kennan, he’s a chunk and maybe he’s the kind of guy who needs to get into theater to further his voice!?

[@eddiestevenson-kaatsch6306]

Kennan, please accept that your incredibly lovely M5 is also incredibly unreliable if you intend to keep it in mint condition. I understand your love for it, I really do, BUT... I'd also suggest that it has reached the point where it deserves to become a 'high days and holidays' car, something you don't use every day. Ignore values when you love a thing so much, but do so with your eyes wide open and not through rose-tinted lenses. If you drove the car only infrequently, any service or general upkeep would be spread so much more thinly over the years. If you accept you have the epitome of gas fuelled cars in the form of your M5, consider jumping the generations of later gas cars and investigate, in depth, the next generation of vehicles that are now driven electrically. There are MANY to choose from. Start with that early Tesla Roadster. THAT will only go up in value, a genuine investment I suggest. A Porsche EV... going cheap right now? Even a VW Buzz is a very rapid thing indeed!

[@andycalifornia426]

Early Tesla Roadster will go up in value? Probably, some, but only some. Its appreciation will probably be somewhere between a DeLorean and convertible Nissan Murano. Being a an overweight Lotus that lost most of the stuff that made the Lotus one good, with low battery capacity -- it's s a weird niche car that only a small number of diehards car about, kind of like DeLorean, except with less appreciation from the general population because it has never been in a movie (hence the reference to Murano)

[@wickcolloran]

They were talking about the most underpowered sports car right before they started the segment. DeLorean!

[@wojtech270]

Evoluto Ferrari looks like one of the tuners from Cars 1, i very much like that vibe, but i think she lost some of the goregous lines (like how the rear fender wraps around the back of the car, now its weirdly straight cut, you can see that especially when looking from the side)

[@Jacobk66]

“The Lamp” has won a lot of sweet cars. It can’t drive, nor be living and know of its existence but it’s got quite a garage!

[@112hounddog]

It's so funny how people give E60 M5 such a hard time but when E39 M5 requires just as much money to maintain it's ok😂 And that's coming from someone who owned both, still have the e60

[@Lisbonese]

The Mustang Mach-E is sold in Europe, the Explorer EV is a VW ID4, and the Capri EV is the VW ID5.

[@Future-Classic-Cars]

Doug has made cars & bids studio look like a 1990's Benigans! In the words of Moe Sizlack - we've got crap all over the walls!!

[@ccabz08]

My neighbor actually bought one of those Oceans… wow. Just wow

[@wb9504]

Serious question, is there anything on the E39 M5 that’s not a “common failure “? Holy crap-mobile Batman.. People crap on Alfa for reliability, but mine has been more reliable than my (younger) Lexus so I always just assumed “car rookies don’t do standard preventative maintenance and only change their oil “

[@VincentVader]

How does the video from the studio freeze & jump around & Doug doesn't?

[@abboudabboud4894]

I could be wrong but the lag makes me feel like the producers are recording this from zoom. Please can you record the boys with the camera and doug separately with his own laptop camera to not have the lag

[@vipvopvoy2350]

Doug does not care about the consumers.

[@skswig1]

Of all time? Lowest power ? Karmen Ghia

[@itsjay6655]

Doug was supposed to be in wedding crashers 😂😂😂

[@SedraKotova-wb9ib]

Your videos are like a window into your world, love the view!

[@docholiday6500]

that mic quality woof

[@travisrenney5970]

Great content. Some technical issues with the studio shots freezing or stuttering.

[@mik4mik4]

Ford does sell the Mach-e in Europe. They also sold the same Explorer as in US, replaced it with the EV one though.

[@trinitt]

Hey! “The guy” who does R8/Gallardo conversions in Alabama! You’ll never guess what car I’m trying to convert next…

[@costafilh0]

Keep the Porsche and get something crazy. You will regret not keeping the Porsche, specially now that all new ones will be EVs.

[@willemvanriet7160]

Same for me. After switching to an EV I do not see myself ever driving a gas car. It's just SO smooth and effortless.

[@wtfgogu]

You didn't do much research when google can tell you that the Explorer will start delivery in a few weeks and you couldn't have seen any.

[@andycalifornia426]

It's a big mistake for Porsche to go full EV on Cayman/Boxster. First EV sportscar on the market - I can see the appeal, but what are the chances of them getting it right the first time? What are the chances of them doing what Kia did with simulated sound and gears? Porsche is probably where Jason Camissa was BEFORE he tired the EV Kia N: thought simulated gears in an EV was useless gimmick. Yeah, Taycan was their first EV, but that was just a sedan, not a sports car. They should've been more conservative and done an EV sportscar along with an ICE one first.

[@derekschipper8721]

Brutalism, sunk cost fallacy. I enjoy a channel from people who went to college

[@Cloxxki]

Something like 98% of Teslas don't even HAVE a gauge cluster to do softwarey cleverness with?

[@wojtech270]

It feels like a movie with not the best dubbing cause the delay

[@MikeKayK]

I don't think they're hiding the fact that the Evoluto 355 is essentially a restomod. The interior is pure restomod.

[@badmontad]

Kennan just have this car as a weekend cruiser. Spending 20k on a year on a 25 year old series production mass produced vehicle is crazy. Tbh its probably better to sell this one and just buy a mint one but i know you’ll never do that so meet in the middle at limit the mileage to like 5000 - 8000 a year. Get an actual beater daily driver that you can swap out every year

[@ericheaton642]

Im gonna have to disagree with the Evoluto 355. There are people who do the same thing to classic muscle cars, and those sell quite often. They update the comforts and features to being it into the modern age to make the car more manageable, but the car still retains a lot of the classic styling. There’s definitely a decently sized market for this kind of car.

[@chrisnolke]

And i think it looks great too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m not sure they were alive when it was built…

[@Wolaka1]

This is the second time they brought up "Naturally Aspirated" for electric cars and no one has explained to Doug that the "Aspirated" part of the phrase by definition requires air to function.

[@samuelhoward8504]

Literally no one asked for electric Porsches.

[@NeMatiosaitis]

Kenen could buy a high mileage E46 M3 (12k) and run into the ground for the repair bills for his M5.

[@danevosler]

I got to help list that replica - took about 7 mo to get a title but I'm glad it sold!

[@tealion]

you all need headphones so you don't talk over each other and not have to yell either.

[@costafilh0]

PLEASE UPDATE THE DOUGSCORE SPREADSHEET. THANKS!

[@pmac5478]

I don’t want ken to sell the m5 so that they keep doing the interventions. Easily my favorite part of the show😂

[@cascade_Luke]

Don’t ban me, but- as a recent EV purchaser I’ll always have one in my life. Former 911 997.2 4S MT (profited 32k after 3 yrs in top of market) and Cayenne Diesel owner.. I’m sold on EV. Our next vehicle will be Rivian R1 S or Cayenne E-hybrid plug-in. And LC500 for wkndr long term.

[@Future-Classic-Cars]

Doug the type of guy only interested in Premium high end, German & Italian cars.

[@seattleraf]

Kennen’s expenses on the M5 make me wonder if I’ll really hold on to my M2C as a forever car as I intend to 😕

[@RC-wt7fr]

Doug, the type of guy to have more quirks and features than any car he's ever reviewed.

[@saberterminal871]

That ford capri crossover looks like that one Mercedes crossover

[@SSuperC]

Cmon Doug. You can get a second microphone for your Nantucket trips lol

[@bimbettocavallo]

On the reserve subject: on bidder said he stopped bidding on my car because he thought the reserve was still too far but instead it was already met.

[@TonyBasuro]

The Crossblade would be great on NAN TKT

[@talbotd27]

When I hear Kennan describe his issues with his M5 I legitimately have PTSD from my e46 ownership. It has given me more issues, cost me more money, and broken on me in more different ways than any vehicle I have ever owned or any vehicle anybody I know has ever owned. The way BMWs rip your heart out is that they are pretty fun to drive when they are running correctly. Which is like 2 weeks out of the year. The rest of the days it is either broken, being fixed, or the warning lights are terrifying you. And the problem is that even when you do fix it, you get this pit in your stomach every time you touch the key or drive the thing because you’re just trying to predict all the ways in which it is going to leave you stranded or devour your savings yet again. It has really ruined me on the BMW brand. I can honestly say I will never own another one again until I make at least 6 figures a year and can afford to have a spare car and also pay somebody with knowledge to fix it

[@mikekirby2085]

Do the M5s come with a buddy who specializes in them? Was this part of the repair estimates?

[@borjablancoarnaldo3075]

What do you think about 996 and 997 gt2 values?

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

996 = flat 997 = flat to slowly up

[@HUMC5]

This seems like a BIG mistake by Porsche at least for the 718 sucessor.

[@AorsVel]

Shmuck is the only word I can think of to describes kennas fondness of this pithole of an m5, no wonder he spends so much time praising it , he needs some cope 😂

[@skepticalskeksis221]

I don’t see electric cars ever holding their value. It’s sad but people just see them as appliances at this point and I don’t see that changing. The only ones I could see being worth something in the future is a certain style or platform that can be retroactively upgraded down the line. An RC Restomod of sorts.

[@andycalifornia426]

It's a shame Porsche chose to go full EV on Cayman/Boxster, not the 911. From what I hear, modern 911 (regular models) are grand tourers, not sports cars. No one buys 911 Turbo for the "connectedness" or nimbleness - people buy them for speed & comfort, which EV would be perfect for. Cayman, though...

[@jscifres100]

This is actually a really good point except for the fact that speed and comfort defines a GT car and GT cars are designed to also cover long distances, a significant EV weakness.

[@andycalifornia426]

@@jscifres100 Do people do "grand tours" these days? It seems to me that's a pretty rare thing - probably rarer than someone driving a Tesla on a multi-state trip. Most people go on long trips with their families and then they're driving a sedan or an SUV anyway.

[@goncalo33]

They sell the Mach-E in Europe, yes.

[@danielbomgaars1008]

Can’t yall fix the glitching video?? I mean seriously…

[@Tangelos]

355 Evoluto is ugly, but his Vanquish kit looked great. The Callum Vanquish actually addressed a lot of the issues with manual and ZF auto swap options.

[@meissiah]

I'd say the Triumph Spitfire is more underpowered than the Porsche 914.