Douglas Murray on BBC This Week discussing problems with mass immigration into Europe

[@rrbbet]

There is something morally sick about any people who welcome their own disappearance.

[@IftikharA]

They have no choice but to accept constant flow of immigrants because of low birth rate and ageing population. With out them their society and economy would bleed to death. There will never be an end to immigration.

[@rrbbet]

No that is a complete false hood, the notion would be convenient to you and your tribe of coarse . Japan was half the size a 100 years ago and it was still Japan and they would rather have robots than import other races in to their country and god bless them .

[@okyouknowwhatever]

LOL I guy called "Iftikhar Ahnad" is positive to Middle Eastern immigration to Europe. What a surprise. What do you think of Western colonization of the Middle East and the replacement of the Middle Eastern people? Also a good idea? Must be, right?

[@richardhewit215]

Don't judge a book by it's cover, especially online.

[@allthesmallthings1041]

It is seen as moral

[@RuaridhEuan]

Thank God for people like Douglas Murray. One of the very, very few people who actually articulate what the people are thinking and feeling. I'm grateful for his words and wish him to continue. We need him and other like minded people to speak up for what's right.

[@andrewtucker94]

Absolutely. I'm generally left-wing but I have large concerns about immigration, Islam and our demographic changes. Douglas is one of the few people who doesn't either make dogwhistles for the far-right or self-censor to make himself PC. It's a difficult line to tread and he walks it well.

[@robertcameron3709]

She's a snotty git. At the end of the piece she in effect said the people can say what they want but we leaders will decide. Providing leadership doesn't confer the right to ignore public opinion. That's the attitude that saw Trump elected and Britain vote Brexit.

[@neilglavin3918]

Couldn't agree more.. Could listen to Douglas Murray all day..

[@kayem3824]

Andrew Tucker The demographic change is that the birth rate in Europe is negative, meaning that the population will die out eventually at this rate. Furthermore the more cosmopolitan cities and areas in Europe are considered more desirable and expensive to live in. Furthermore, even the slightly provincial towns can be quite depressing places and can do with some colour ....some are dead as a door nail after 5. Not to mention remote and deserted places. BTW, consider also migration from Europe, especially of the professional and the educated.

[@jacquelineithell307]

But what good will it do , England for its citizens is no more , as we walk on quick sand , and are above to sink in it if Labour get in

[@alexmay1754]

Douglas Murray for Prime Minister ....

[@IftikharA]

In my opinion, He would never be an elected MP. He lives in a fools paradise.

[@jaromor8808]

And still he does not think ban on muslim immigration should be the policy. UK is fucked up. Well deserved.

[@democolor42]

now after 6 years of comment you got hindu worshipping exotic gods with thousand hands and legs, with cow's head or elephants trunk

[@Valveus]

Why are people like Douglas Murray only allowed onto the BBC on programmes like this, tucked away late at night, or buried on news 24? Why not put them on the 6 o'clock news?

[@IftikharA]

Douglas Murray does not live in a real world. He is anti-immigrants and anti-Islam. The spirit of crusade is still alive in him. He is living in a fools paradise.

[@psgower72]

Douglas Murray is not against immigration, he for for controlled immigration. Islam is anti-democracy and pro-sharia. And as for talking about the Crusades..... What about the 400 years that Islam tried to invade Europe. You Muslims keep leaving that point out, don't you.

[@richardhewit215]

For historical reference (the second muslem crusade) read about the touchy feely repatriation program practiced by Count Vladimir Dracuul, peace be upon him.

[@THOMASCOLTON1]

Valveus because inward migration is economically based experiment, the political class are driving & primary concern for them is different to UK communities.

[@bluewrenreilly129]

No I think you are sir.

[@GeorgeSPAMTindle]

The 5,000 Ugandan Indians who came to Leicester, my home city, (4:10) didn't come and demand that we bend over backwards for them. They worked hard, many lived in appallingly over-crowded houses and did jobs far below their abilities. The majority of them were not Muslims. I have a Hindu friend who's parents came in that wave of immigration and his name is Paul, he has siblings and cousins with names such as Dave, John, Linda, Sarah, etc. because their families wanted them to integrate with the host nation. Paul tells me that whilst most English people don't bat an eyelid over the fact that he has an English name he has been subjected to some vile abuse from immigrants because of his parents wishes for their children to integrate. One of his cousins is so well integrated that he has run a pub for many years. That's the way to do it.

[@chrisgadsby5700]

Yes I remember the circumstances of this specific group from a single country and why they came here. Liz Kendall was being disingenuous by suggesting that recent migrants have a similar profile or motivation,

[@jamiew1664]

well said sir.

[@ringozawra]

Douglas Murray is 100% right.

[@jaromor8808]

No. He is not. Ban on muslim immigration is the way to go. Well it was 20 years ago. Now it is too late. And that fool still does not see the problem.

[@alpine7891]

Jaroslav Záruba - I agree with you... but, if he went in any stronger they'd not even let him onto the corrupt mainstream media.

[@jacquelineithell307]

Yes the citizens know that but they still click their tongues and tut , you can if you’re a betting person , put a cert of Labour getting in , because we are so frightened of the unknown, what if the unknown is a better choice, but the Idiot's will go with Labour , and one thing is a sure fact , when they get in hold on to you’re hats , this time now will be like heaven , when the Labour get power , this quick sand we are walking on , will devour England ,

[@aaronweaver6936]

This woman just cant wait to live under the Caliphate.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

honey badger I just don't understand the alliance of the far left with Islam, as you said,she'll be the first to get it.

[@brianfinnegan664]

She's fairly mild in comparison with some of these idiots

[@ericboxer3053]

yeah it's quite funny..the leftist will be up against the wall first when the Islamists take over

[@ela7893]

@@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447 "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

[@PoliticalRegality]

@@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447 5 years later in 2024 when I am watching this, it is much worse, Who is that woman?

[@gusmontgomery5250]

Very well said Douglas. You are one of the few voices of reason on this matter in a complete sea of madness!

[@rarecockneyguvnor4945]

This woman is the reason I stopped voting for Labour they are not genuine

[@dianadoors1]

I used to be Labour too,hate them with a passion now for what they have done to our beautiful country.

[@Manu-ei1up]

Same here!

[@Knight766]

They are also dangerous

[@jaromor8808]

Does not matter. You helped them enough. They don't need your vote anymore.

[@Phangmaster]

She is a special kind of poison, I've always hated her. But to be fair there isn't a single Party that stands for anything now other than 'More for them, and less for us'. Blue, Red it doesn't matter any more, the people in real power sit on the boards of massive corporations.

[@jakeharrison6603]

Britain, GET OFF YOUR KNEES!

[@billcraske4328]

This video shows why Labour are a waste of time, just will not listen to alternative view point, don’t and won't listen.

[@StephenCowley001]

+Bill Craske Are the Tories any better? Portillo talks about defending European "values", not the people who hold them.

[@williamcraske691]

You are right, they are just as bad were screwed :-)

[@dianadoors1]

Labour brought the aliens here.Barbara Roche(Jewess) was the driving force with traitor Blair

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Mass immigration has never been openly stated as a policy by any party, its not legitimate , and never has been. Its based on the lie that an aging population can only be saved by migration, yet the obvious first step is to increase and encourage the birth rate.

[@dianadoors1]

Look at the Barcelona agreement,part of the EU sophistry.We are to be turned into Eurabia,(as part of EU)but under wraps of course.

[@fugoff8588]

This bint talks about Leicester (a city I used to live in), where White British are a minority, and the various ethnic groups are segregated across different portions of the city. Whites have mostly left the centre and live around the edges of the city, Hindus and Sikhs occupy one side of the inner city and Muslims another. Many city centres across the UK reflect this picture. It highlights the myth of melting pot, because there is none, it is self-imposed segregation, which is a natural human trait. Thus, it follows that ethnocentric nations closely reflect human nature, and multiculturalism is incongruous to nature.

[@sunset2.00]

Only religion with hard effort had a true melting pot and sometimes fail like cristian black churches... Secular melting pot where their is no higher purpose then of course they will choose race favoring as purpose and segregate. Although i am a muslim and knew that muslim and other people benifit from multiculturalism and it is not un-Islamic But secular multiculturalism dont work that well in UK

[@killercd7682]

We are a people, that's the point. A real people. Mass immigration is in and of itself an existential threat to that.

[@SlimTortoise]

Douglas Murray super guy, Keep up the good work

[@Subtleknife12367]

She actually mentioned Leicester as a shining example. Having lived there before and after the mass imigration it hasnt got better.

[@The_Burning_Sensation]

God, that woman sums up the problem with Europe's political class perfectly. Murray is telling her the people of Europe don't like all this immigration, and her response is that the political class needs to 'provide leadership', ie, the people don't know what's best, we do, they need to shut-up and accept what we tell them'. That doesn't work. People won't just suddenly stop being concerned because you refuse to listen to those concerns. They'll go to someone-- anyone-- who does appear to listen.

[@jac627]

labour members never miss a chance to show how out of touch they are.

[@Horriblebastad]

Leicester in the 70s,yeah we are now another century darling!!

[@Captally]

We call our Countries our Homelands. It is where we live. Why should we not have a say in who comes to live in our home?

[@notom]

All the way through she is so desperate to say something vacuous about how immigration is great (always). Doesn't remotely seem willing to entertain the idea that there might be some drawbacks.

[@richardhewit215]

How can there be any drawbacks ? Everything is beautiful. England is beautiful, London is beautiful, Manchester is beautiful, Birmingham is beautiful, Leicester is beautiful, Luton is beautiful, Rotherham is beautiful. I just don't get it. How can some people be unhappy when we live in Utopia.

[@tomrichardson4375]

she's MP for Liecester, need I say more?

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

Tom Richardson Leicester is mostly Hindu (Indians) - they're not Muslim and most of them probably hate Muslims more than you do lol... they've a chequered shared history... but she's still a twat!

[@EOTA564]

dannyboywhaa Yes. The Hindus I know don't walk on egg shells when they talk of "the religion of peace".

[@keith3660]

The scales may drop from her eyes one day but I fear that when they do, it may be too late.

[@wodzynskiliam5696]

He's spot on, almost as good a hitchens

[@albedo0point39]

Hmm. A very unsatisfying segment (and not the fault of Mr. Murray). Not much insight here beyond raw numbers. Distressing to see the left wing panellist immediately shut down any suggestion that there might be a qualitative difference in immigration from different groups (can't talk about Muslims!). I've bought DM's book and look forward to reading it.

[@zenden6564]

Three cheers for Douglas Murray.

[@theesbband]

Mr Portillo - “Never put anything of importance to the popular vote.” Discuss. 😳

[@MrStitsevol]

"it's amazing how well we've coped" is she on drugs???

[@musicalfringe]

Weirdly, I think she's right - it is amazing how well we've coped so far. That doesn't change the fact that it's unsustainable and dangerous.

[@colinsweeney2628]

Why the fuck is Portillo wearing a denim jacket.

[@sellingenglandbythepound5255]

Colin 1983 I think he just came back from a Bros concert

[@stephenkane549]

Colin 1983 hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@splashstrike]

The show had a 'back to the future theme', seriously.

[@22grena]

And that's the issue that you think is important?

[@Michael-4]

He's off to the Blue Oyster bar afterwards.

[@BANKO007]

Liz Truss must be blind. Leicester used to be a great city and now you feel like you are in a horrible, run down foreign backwater.

[@markstanton63]

Sadly it's Us or Them. Diversity is our weakness and we have become terribly vulnerable to those who are on a mission to destroy us.

[@Bobmudu35UK]

Watching this in 2023, Merkel has gone,the AFD in Germany have just made huge gains, Italy, Sweden and other European countries have elected anti mass immigration parties,and the general public are turning against said mass immigration. Liz is naive and short sighted.

[@tomsvideos68]

There is massive youth unemployment in Italy, Greece , Spain and Portugal why can't these young Europeans work in Germany

[@joerouphael4973]

Good work Douglas keep it up

[@GLOKD]

Neil asks - what is wrong with immigration/how will it lead to the downfall of 'the West'... (Talking purely about low quality/third world/Islamic immigration...) 1) Cultural disparities - different attitudes towards women, different attitudes towards foundational Enlightenment values (Rotherham, Charlie Hebdo, etc.) 2) ^ Extremism, ^ occidentalism, ^ terrorism 3) Social division, ethnic enclaves, hostility towards institutions 3) Lower iQ 4) Disproportionate predilection towards crime 5) Disproportionate use of public services 6) Necessary expansion of state apparatus - surveillance, etc 7) More likely to vote for more welfare and less freedom Neil says - what about America... 1) America is separated from the rest of the world by the Atlantic Ocean and an expensive flight. They also have strict VISA policies and a less generous welfare state. This puts huge selective pressures for hard working, well educated and wealthy immigration (the good kind.) They get the brightest and the best, we get whatever lands on the shore in Lesbos.

[@legalvampire8136]

And a lot of Americans are now concerned about what mass Third World immigration is doing to their country too. Mass immigration worked in Nineteenth and early Twentieth Century USA (and Australia) because they had largely empty Continents to fill. That was because the Native peoples had been largely wiped out by European diseases and guns. That does not apply to modern Europe. Also, in the earlier period immigration to the USA and Australia was mostly from other Western countries whose cultures and values were relatively compatible, even if they had the occasional problem. It was not like pouring floods of Third World Muslims into Christian and secular First World countries.

[@johnemorrison-kj3ox]

Very interesting that mainstream media is proving time and again its mandate is constantly pro globalization to the detriment to Home Country Values. I feel Trudolph’s media control has most Definitely become the Enemy of Canadian Culture 🧐

[@audience2]

The woman is wrong about the people being given a say on the mass immigration that really accelerated since Tony Blair. There have always been issues more important to the public so they didn't vote to slow immigration down despite that being what they want.

[@ryan17920]

I agree with Douglas Europeans have given up on what a European truly is if anyone who enters Europe Even if they do adopt European values how can we call them European? If the Native European Population (those with Historical Ties to Europe) is reduced to the point of being a Minority on the Continent will the new Peoples of Europe respect the rules and cultures or will it be supplanted by another dominant culture which would be against those who made the European identity itself?

[@adamrtt]

Grew up in a village in Hertfordshire, went to an all Girls grammar school, left Cambridge with a first and talks of how Leicester has changed for the better as a result of immigration

[@alastairhunter353]

Thanks Douglas...

[@Grace-fc8zx]

Murray is absolutely correct. The lady in particular is silly. She should talk to Paul Joseph Watson.

[@bertrandrussell894]

Who in the hell is she and who's she trying to impress?!

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Labour Liz. The kind and decent face of the UK with the hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil attitude to the public opinion. The day is coming when these poor decent peoples children will reap what they have sown.

[@christhomas602]

You can't logistically and economically decant one continent into another without HUGE PROBLEMS

[@UnchainedCyclist]

Provide leadership can be translated as ignore the general public because we're better than them.

[@bigpete4227]

Understanding peoples concerns is code for listening to people, telling them they are bad and wrong then ignoring them.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

Douglas Murray is one of the most insightful commentators/philosophers of our time. He will be proved correct on so many levels whilst the Bleeding Heart / SJW's who have their eyes glued to car headlights like entitled rabbits will wonder why their freedom of speech, women's / Gay rights and basic liberties fade away to the Western dream time. More power to this brave defender of Western values and standards!

[@ncrasiaable]

Great conversation. Mr. D, spot on. Utmost respect for Mr.P, however, not sure why he's wearing denim jacket!

[@welshtoro3256]

Douglas on top form here.

[@bendakstarkiller1270]

Can someone from Western Europe (I'm form Poland), explain to me, why is it a foregone conclusion to these people that they "must" take in vast quantities of immigrants form Africa and Asia? They speak of it as if it was smth painfully obvious and unavoidable, like extinguishing a fire or putting ice-cream in the freezer.

[@sunset2.00]

Because of welfare UK is massive in Dept for feeding single moms n old people... As Uk has low birth rate.. So you need young foreigners so that you can tax them and feed the blood to welfare nation...

[@bendakstarkiller1270]

@@sunset2.00 I see. But that is a short-term solution to a long-term problem. Those immigrants will get old too eventually. Many of them come flat-out to leech off of the welfare system. This is basically taking a 2nd credit to pay off the 1st one...

[@sunset2.00]

@@bendakstarkiller1270 Ues but not for the politicians who can get power and win election by promising more and more to old people single women and the caring politicians who want to reduce Gov so to lessen the dept burden is clearly unpopular as majority are old n young moms. Very few politicians play the long term game for a five year power.

[@ttblade]

She has a script. She doesn't even sound like she believes it herself.

[@artourious6346]

Oh dear Andrew, how wrong you were then , and how correct Douglas was and is.

[@MarkHaywoodOfSparta]

Douglas Murray went to these places seeing the migration firsthand and interviewed migrants - the other people sat on a sofa. Who do you believe?

[@danuta25]

Douglas you're a genius

[@mattvolcom76]

I’m a right wing guy. Douglas is correct. Good discussion though.

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

I'm a left winger, and he's still completely correct!

[@apexinfovore7309]

I enjoyed the game of hide and seek that Douglas played with the camera man.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

In my country in Europe, the party of the right is not even allowed to govern with other partys in the government.

[@gayham]

I could listen to him all day.

[@Masty24-r4b]

Strange death of Europe is a must read for anyone

[@angelsackson]

Miss the days the bbc would at least talk about it.

[@markashdown1314]

Portillo a fair commentator. Liz Kendal not in power so meaningless. Douglas on the money.

[@Dj13e36]

If you think they love you so much stop paying them. Stop paying them and see what happens.

[@billygriffiths1938]

labour MP is deluded. she's ok in her million pound house hey

[@MOGGS1942]

Islam has such a grip on the UK now, so it's only a matter of time before OUR culture becomes THEIR culture. Mass unchecked immigration, coupled with enormous differential in birth rates between muslims and the indigenous population, dictates that muslims will eventually be in the majority, with obvious consequences. This will take some time, but it will, and must, happen. Successive governments have accommodated the ongoing problem, foolishly, and seem oblivious to what is going on. I wonder what benefits they are enjoying from their actions/inactions.

[@djtim06]

No sorry Liz, there was never a vote on whether Labour could open the borders to 300,000 people per year...never!

[@Buz-Lunch-Punx]

OMG! ANDREW NEIL IS SOOOOO IRRITATING!

[@richardrisner3635]

We’ll that lady sums up very well what’s wrong with champagne liberals

[@VocallyDerivative]

you just know she doesn't live in a council house and never has. or if she has she was brought up by her mum.

[@VocallyDerivative]

no structure

[@barrymelias3433]

douglas is right

[@an67481]

Europe should never accept multiculturalism. Roma aeterna. That's where we should draw the line, is at EU where it is currently. These people are europeans, no more than that

[@paulbuckley668]

I am surprised that there are not favourable comments about Michael Portillo. His statements were objective and intelligent.

[@aquious953]

The political class have utter contempt for the struggling working class(immigrant and native)whose wages are insufficient and suppressed by immigration. They do not have to compete with immigrants for jobs!

[@jamiew1664]

i like douglas murray

[@samsteers8504]

Literally every point brought up about the positives of immigration is in the first few chapters of Douglas's book. Definitley a good read

[@stillben]

I like their water glasses...anyone know where to buy them?

[@sratus]

Portillo's midlife crisis jacket is distracting

[@musicalfringe]

It's actually quite reserved for him. Try watching his Great Train Journeys documentaries if you want some real eye-bleeders 🤣

[@irishking1414]

Long live dougie

[@MC-ip8gb]

Douglas was cut off at various points

[@martynscotton8300]

Douglas Murray for PM he’d sort the shit hole that we now call England out 💪🏻

[@robharris5467]

'How well we coped'. WTF. Ask the girls of Rotherham.

[@sirwinston8450]

What will it take before everyone wakes up to the dangers highlighted by Douglas Murray here. Our continent will be a mess if a few generations, civil war seems almost inevitable to me.

[@2ShadesOfGray]

Douglas is an absolute gem

[@colinfryett8174]

The UK has 66 million people in the year 2018 by the time we get to 2040 we will have around 77 million people for gods sake we are a small island we cant just keep bringing everybody here ffs

[@Ppal486wan]

But why Globalisation and Why the free movement of people. Is it because that's what some politicians want and say. I see no need for it. To me just sounds like a policy if inclusion and a policy for the sake of making one

[@Kvitka777]

The UK is lost forever. :(

[@jeffairplane7534]

Douglas Murray for prime minister. This man does not get the recognition his completely valid, well aticulated points deserve. I find it hard to understand why anyone could disagree with him.

[@HalfManThirdBiscuit]

Long term thinking is racist. or something

[@lynnjenkins3663]

People with similar racial and religious backgrounds choose to live together, which is why we have areas of cities with high numbers or exclusivity of particular groups.So why isn’t it ok for white, British people to also want to be with similar people who share, and wish to preserve, their own history, legal system, traditions and values? It isn’t racist to want to be with people like ourselves and to not want to see that disappearing. Otherwise all those other concentrations of other groups of people who want all that are racist!

[@doone8849]

hi guys , who's the man on the sofa ? is he an actor or

[@edwardst-pierre1020]

I believe it cheaper to encourage our young families to have more children and to help them pay for the expenses. Then what it costs to bring in total strangers who will never love their new country and never blend in with the local Citizens.

[@alanlong1971]

Listen to this man, do you remember Eoch

[@attiqrehman4744]

Intro music in which doulgus murray describeing the immigration of the European please can anyone tell me the music of that section?

[@solatiumz]

Douglas Murray is trying to be polite, but they just will not listen, and they never have. The Queen could teach them, the British Royal Family has had to learn to move with the times.

[@bluewrenreilly129]

Everyone should shut up and listen to Douglas Murray when he speaks.they might learn something useful.

[@georgeengland1699]

Go Douglas, one day they may listen to you.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

Hitchens is gone, thank fuck for Murray.

[@traceyreid4585]

Look at the size of the UK compared to the United States... there really is only so much room!

[@bigpete4227]

“Provide leadership “ that’s another one. Translation- to ignore public opinion.

[@musashidanmcgrath]

Just wait another generation or 2 and see what way this 'conversation' goes. London already over 40% non-British.(as in ethnic European Brits) Europeans have low birth rates, immigrants have much higher rates. It's simple. You can't argue with mathematics. And the same is true for all other western European nations.

[@mervhoward5821]

Islam wasn't mentioned once....

[@artourious6346]

dear oh dear liz, you just dont get it, read douglases book.. then you'll understand.

[@louiscypher7090]

Why people post videos absent of any indication of when the video aired is beyond me.

[@michaelharritt4867]

Liz has no idea what the British and EU public want in this country and around Europe. This is why we have Brexit, Trump and other backlash

[@alanlong1971]

The only sane person here is Douglas

[@voodoochile333]

Has anyone noticed that portillo is wearing denim?