Douglas Murray interview: BLM

Douglas Murray is an author and journalist. His latest release is a paperback version of the Madness of Crowds, with a new chapter on the last year's political developments.
He met Oli Dugmore at Tamesis Dock to discuss the Black Lives Matter movement, Boris Johnson's love for a culture war and who will win the US presidential election.
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[@tmichael9377]

I agree everything you said. I am a black immigrant man from ethiopia here living in canada for the last 30 years and I have never been discriminated by anyone . We are here bombarded by media and politicians how canadian institutions and police are racist towards black people. I feel that I am in a different planet.

[@davidtuer5825]

Hey, you're only black, what do you know about it?

[@ColHogan-bu2xq]

Turn off your television and radio. The mainstream media is a communist brainwashing tool. Good luck.

[@christianfrommuslim]

@@ColHogan-bu2xq Desousa's new film "Trump Card" interviews an insider who claims Arab money is bribing American media leaders.

[@ColHogan-bu2xq]

@@christianfrommuslim It wouldn't surprise me at all : money tries to bribe everyone. But I wouldn't be so sure where the money really came from ...

[@Stringz]

Lol I don’t know if it’s worse in America or the uk but I’ve felt like I’ve been in an upside down world for the past 7 months. And it’s gotten increasingly more insane. I never would have imagined this. All the racism nonsense... all this insane word play identitarian garbage ... far more than just that... so much it’s hard to keep up but I have.. ehhh I’m so fed up... But yeah like another person said, can’t listen to MSM. These people are nuts. It’s gotta be the same over there.

[@timokautto7349]

This guy is quickly turning into a national treasure for UK.

[@cjoeguid]

I'm listening to him in the U.S.. I just heard him for the first time a week ago on Joe Rogan's podcast. There's a lot of people around the Western world who are looking to hear what reasonable intellectuals have to say because there doesn't seem to be a whole lot left that doesn't bow to the mob. He's one of the people outside of my country that I'm quickly starting to like, I'll have to hear a lot more before he reaches Jordan Peterson's level though lol.

[@timokautto7349]

@@cjoeguid He can hardly ever be on Peterson's intellectual level, but his wisdom and knowledge and understanding of history is quite amazing.

[@theonlycaulfield]

​@@cjoeguid I enjoy Peterson, but I find Murray's arguments to be a lot more clear, succinct and structured. Peterson is talented at speaking but his arguments often become cyclical and superfluously verbal.

[@cjoeguid]

@@theonlycaulfieldI do think your claim that Jordan Peterson is cyclical in his arguments is correct, but I think his views are pretty solid still. On certain topics he does seem to circle back around, especially when connecting ideas like Marxism and Post Modernism. I also notice everytime he does, he will remind us that these two wouldn't normally go together since Post Modernism suggest one side is not better than the other, but Marxism has clearly chosen a side lol, but I think you're right.

[@dn-pp5ny]

@@cjoeguid Murray and Peterson, I find, to say much of the same thing. Except Murray, as a writer for most his life, structures his statements without all the academia jargon.

[@stkittsmanuk1]

I am a teacher. The amount of times I have heard that expression "We didn't learn about that at school.." People no longer teach themselves things (unless it is related to earning more money). To learn for the sake of learning, does not exist now from what I see around me.

[@jgdooley2003]

Our education authorities have recently downgraded History by combining it with Geography and not insisting it be studied in Secondary School. I would argue that the study of humanities such as History and Geography are essential to understanding the conflicts that bedevil our world. Random acts of violence will occur when anger takes over from rigourous academic formation and education which needs to address all sides of a political argument or point of view. I sectional interests get to relate the story of our past lives then hatred and conflict are inevitable. Professional detached and cool heads need to prevail in this situation. History needs to be taught at school.

[@stkittsmanuk1]

@@jgdooley2003 I agree that certain things need to be modified or changed, but not these two subjects. It is another step on the way to a homogeneous worldwide society.

[@danzel1157]

Trevor Gordon. I agree. I was never taught about the various political systems, for instance.

[@ericsonofjohn9384]

You’re right. I’m 20 now, at university, and it’s only in the last year or so that I’ve realised that people can educate themselves on whatever they want, they just need to find the books to read. School and even uni, is just about teaching people how to learnt and think critically.

[@aidy6000]

@@ericsonofjohn9384 University while not the best value for money does teach critical thinking

[@paulscottfilms]

I never hear Douglas Murray without writing down complete sentences and trying to remember them. He is astounding and outstanding.

[@brettpritchard265]

Agreed. Something I've not really had since Christopher Hitchens and that's praise indeed for Douglas Murray.

[@resharynaarmian5744]

Absolutely me too. I think a write a full notes to remind me and educate me. Enligghtened my self

[@codysparks1454]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@brettpritchard265I think it’s safe to say that Douglas is Hitchens’ true successor. I can’t think of anyone else but him

[@democraticdialogue7271]

Douglas Murray should have a talkshow to address the issues of the day. Truly, a wise man.

[@sophielaurel1102]

Free Speech Advocate Excellent idea. But he's got too much common sense and intelligence certainly for any of the main 4 channels.

[@rinhu8864]

Nina Nano there’s a news channel apparently coming next year, politcalite? Sure he’ll feature heavily.

[@sophielaurel1102]

R Inhu That's encouraging - the more exposure he has the better. He's excellent.

[@angedora03071981]

Britain kzbin.info/www/bejne/gafLlYCPqp53rck

[@SidMcGrath105]

@@angedora03071981I haven't watched the full video, but I heard Mark Duggan's name mentioned...you DO know he was a violent, sadistic criminal, right? 🤔

[@outofbluepills]

Douglas said sarcastically, "If you thought the American world order wasn't to your taste, you'll love the Chinese one." I was a Chomsky-loving anti-imperialist for decades, but I've come to believe that the sentiment that Douglas is expressing here--when China takes over as global hegemon, people will realize how good we all had it under the Pax Americana--is entirely correct.

[@natkingcol909]

It's mildly terrifying... He's said in a couple of interviews recently that the Corona virus might be just the beginning of something. Could be the beginning of a world war with China... Bankrupting your enemies would be a good start if you want to start a war...

[@sebastianmunozochoa1485]

I saw that Chomsky was simping for China and accusing Trump of yellow terror . The dude doesn't realize that China is worse than the USA, but I can't have my expectations up for the guy who was hanging out with Hugo Chavez.

[@timothyblazer1749]

Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics. Seriously. He has been so upset by the American hegemons who have done bad things, he seems to have always viewed every other entity through rose colored glasses. It is just astounding to me that he could say one word in favor of socialists and communists after the Gulag Archipelago was published, and after the real news about the horror of Maoist China came to light. It shows that no one is above incredible myopic bias once they have a world view that "works" for them personally.

[@sebastianmunoz5561]

@@melodyprojekt Look I don't see anyone controling the CCP , they are getting away with so much things that I don't think that they have masters.

[@mezzuna]

What does 'pax' America refer to?

[@susanzeidler3960]

Douglas Murray is so absolutely necessary these days. Thankful he has the courage to speak out.

[@zapatavive1801]

He's a bloviating convoluting pos

[@SingularityMedia]

Nah.

[@DavidGraeberWasRight]

so brave of him to be a racist, yet cloak his views in psuedo-intellectual guff

[@youtubewatcher703]

Young people need to listen to Douglas Murray, not Lewis Hamilton.

[@mules8662]

WORD. ON. THAT.

[@wezlo8328]

Totally agree

[@wezlo8328]

Unless they want to be a F1 driver lol

[@sentinal2343]

is Dougshit a champion? what's he ever achieved? yeah right, might as well listen to Take-That or the Spice Girls, they're as real as he is!

[@aurimasb1558]

@@sentinal2343 do you have to be a champion in something to have common sense and know how to speak eloquently? 😀

[@zalacainbilbao]

One of the few sensible voices today. He is both insightful and critical but always polite.

[@MarpLG]

there are two options to avoid confilct which naturaly appears from diversity...1. be tolerant : this is very hard nowdays when common knowledge of people is "survival of fittest". (even extension of this logic with appreciation of cooperation wont help just make game from 1v1 to 1mil. vs 1mil.) 2. be transcendental : this means to see unity in diversity. here it is described: vedabase.io/en/library/bg/5/18/

[@angedora03071981]

Britain kzbin.info/www/bejne/gafLlYCPqp53rck

[@kratos.8151]

Politeness is the thing racist people always ask for as it's the only leg to look reasonably they stand on ... and white people buy into it.

[@ChristineDixon-ul5gm]

I dont think so hes a pretentious prick

[@jaderington]

@@ChristineDixon-ul5gm Absolutely correct. Very Polite and very wrong. I'd rather objective rude honesty than take this jack ass seriously. He's wrote a book that will teach me nothing if I were to read it.

[@Muonium1]

"last month when Sam Smith came out as a plural" LOL. perfect. love Murray

[@AnnaLVajda]

Don't even like him why should we care?

[@ldrjohnson6705]

SS is an idiot with talent

[@Krazie1nyc]

He came out as "look at me!" Never have I heard anything explained better than that!

[@boatfaceslim9005]

I saw Douglas quip on another interview that at least Smith will be able to keep "themselves" company during the lockdown 😂

[@pinsneedles1743]

The first gay polygamous.

[@imnotsmartbutimdumb]

Why isn’t there more Douglas Murray out there, this man is extremely intelligent and his voice needs heard by most people.

[@nudal9993]

You mean more white privileged Etonians telling black people it is all OK and don't complain!

[@mikeoliver5642]

@@nudal9993 He criticises white politicians and academics almost exclusively. I strongly suspect you didn't even watch more than a couple of minutes of this interview.

[@davemartino5997]

@@mikeoliver5642 your point is? He does that because it’s true you fool. SMH

[@annapachaclarke2392]

​@@mikeoliver5642Your comprehension is abysmal, lol!

[@phillipgriffiths9624]

We need more like Murray. He does speak for the silent majority.

[@kf338]

The silent need to speak up worldwide

[@zapatavive1801]

This coward "knows" not about the Native Holocaust

[@MichelleBlessing]

He does not speak for me.

[@Climpus]

What does he say that you disagree with?@@MichelleBlessing

[@socialrehab9234]

Why aren't people like Douglas Murray running the country?

[@masada2828]

They need to stand and be elected.

[@blainerouault3907]

@@masada2828 in other words: "The People" don't get to decide

[@DrBenson21]

Politics has a way to muzzle free and open speech. If he entered politics he'd be castrated.

[@GoldSilverShop]

He is neither corrupt nor vain enough

[@MUNRO13]

Because they want puppets not men.

[@themuzzer55]

American here, This guy needs to run for office in Britain, if he hasn't already. He's logical and precise...You have a leader England, prop him up.

[@richardlatorre4875]

Analysts usually turn out to be poor leaders.

[@robertmoffat5149]

In fact he’s logical and precise enough to stay the hell out of politics and arguably writers are the real leaders in society.

[@jamesmallon1631]

Yes he is great, followed him for years. BLM are a far left terrorist organisation.

[@J-A-W]

Why would you want one of your best thinkers to sully themselves with politics?

[@robertmoffat5149]

@M. J. You don't esteem gatekeepers apparently.

[@CyberUK]

Wow, finally somebody who feels the way that the vast underheard majority of Britain does and who just talks sense. Great interview.

[@laspalmas4844]

Douglas Murray is a Brilliant man! I would love to see him as the next Prime Minister of the UK. We definitely need more people like him in our World. Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴

[@entity30068]

He's the kind of person we need but our corrupt system will keep him out (if he's even interested). To advance in politics requires that you allow yourself to be bought by lobbying interests. Politicians these days are mainly puppets who sway with the wind. Independent thinkers get drowned out by the bigger voices of influence. You can't untangle money and power.

[@katsinthecradle89]

I had the same thought, but he's not corruptible so it wouldn't happen. Such a pity, this country would become productive and proud again.

[@samattwell2213]

Douglas Murray speaks for the silent majority

[@snowlover_]

silent and timid. sadly passive and submissive

[@adamgrimsley2900]

He does do a lot of speaking

[@123colinfrost]

The 'silent majority' need to bloody well start becoming the vocal majority and quickly!

[@snowlover_]

@@123colinfrost as Douglas Murray said it is silenced majority not silent majority. We've reached a point that if I speak my mind and dare to disagree with the gangs of PC and lefti progressive, I'll be fired from my job.

[@silent_shout]

I'm on the left and I've started to speak out on some of the issues brought up by Douglas Murray and other controversial figures. I was called names and people have insinuated that I was racist at first but as this year has unfolded I've seen a lot more people come to reason. Douglas Murray had a really good line on JRE a few weeks ago when he said "Speak the truth. It will make your life so much better."

[@mashbury]

The ever listenable Douglas Murray . A lone voice of sanity these days

[@BijinMCMXC]

Lone? No.

[@mashbury]

BijinXOXO lone voice on most MSM

[@sentinal2343]

Put him in office, how long before a REAL war breaks out?

[@stkittsmanuk1]

A lot of valid points. As the son of Caribbean immigrants, who were invited to England work, in the mid-fifties. One of the things I have always admired about Great Britain is the history (even though it is not related to my lineage). If you lived in any foreign country, you would learn the history of that country. More to say but will wait for another occasion.

[@Athleticmaleuk]

How's Wind Rush going?

[@stkittsmanuk1]

@@Athleticmaleuk I have no idea.

[@davemartino5997]

@@Athleticmaleuk how’s you’re crackhead mother?

[@chelsealynch3327]

@@stkittsmanuk1why do Caribbean’s always leave their islands? Can you not build for yourselves?

[@stkittsmanuk1]

@@chelsealynch3327 My parents left the Carribean when they were in their eary-mid 20's.Unless you went into 'tourism' ,there was little else left to do. I Don't know why they leave the islands. Maybe they want a 'pre-made' economyto move to.

[@sa6oturboto]

Douglas Murray is like a great cup of coffee early in the morning.

[@Flashyfinancier]

Russians rarely like gay people

[@lowandodor1150]

That is a real nice thing to say about someone. And i don't even like coffee!

[@AMikeStein]

That's a brilliant comparison. I'll have to remember this comment.

[@deepblueinthedark9856]

Schizo Tazer 😂😎

[@gwh3013]

No, he's like a turd in your sandwich

[@overthecounterbeanie]

I've been following Douglas Murray's work for close to 20 years now, and he truly is one of the great thinkers of our age.

[@jamesmason8436]

@Marcus Lorenzo since when did academics cite journalists?

[@jamesmason8436]

@Marcus Lorenzo no academic whose work I've read has ever cited a journalist. Other academics, peer reviewed studies/ journals and relevant statistics/ data, but not the word of journalists or writers.

[@jamesmason8436]

@Marcus Lorenzo perhaps describing him as a mere journalist was a bit unfair as he's also a writer/ poltical commentator. Not sure he pretends to be anything more than any of the above, and certainly not a philosopher of any description. Chomsky is a philosopher and academic, so don't really see the comparison there. What he undeniably is, however, is perceptive, and excellent at analysing and eloquently exposing the faults inherent in *some* left-wing thinking and action. He's one of the few voices on the right that I pay any attention to, even if I don't always agree with him. It's always worthwhile listening to a counter-narrative and being self-critical in my opinion. I've never seen him drum-up hatred of minorties so will have to plead ignorance there. From what I've seen of him over the years, his arguments tend be reasonable and often difficult to dismiss. You'll seldom see him lose a debate.

[@alangardiner872]

I agree, almost the modern day Socrates.

[@olivermarsh2183]

@Ian TB hello brother fan. bless the Hicks.

[@baalstone675]

This man's a legend. Protect him.

[@Wingedmagician]

Protect him? No put him on the front lines!

[@thunderstruck1078]

@@Wingedmagician To do what exactly? Beg the left to "stop and think what they are doing" or something equally ineffectual? He's a gatekeeper for White identity politics and that's the only way to confront this from a position of power. They don't speak any other language.

[@Peacefulmissfit]

Rob Vel Then defend him!

[@Hoopla10]

Why is he a legend!? From this video alone I'm surprised anybody even finds him interesting. He didn't think COVID would amplify problems in our society? Just historically that would be a blind assumption. Let alone how a pandemic would attack the different economic levels of our society and systemic issues. Then the "leaning a bit less on the differences between us" just blows me away at the lack of insight. Really? He should be protected for saying stuff like that? If he actually wanted us to come together as a society maybe we need to address those differences first, right? Otherwise you're assuming those differences don't matter because YOU PERSONALLY aren't effected by them. Which is another of his dumb assumptions. His "critique" of BLM is largely made up of distractions... "there was this one case SIX years ago where he lunged for the gun"... and then to imply BLM consider him a martyr!!!! FFS. He then says nobody thinks black lives don't matter. Are you f'ing kidding me? For somebody who claims to have followed them quite closely he certainly hasn't been paying attention and still remains insanely ignorant about them. Anyway enjoy your "legend". Or yeah better put him on the front line. See how long he'd last.

[@obi-wanshinobi2353]

At all costs?

[@MisterMonsterMan]

What an overtly sane, and highly rational thinker we have here. More of this please.

[@pauldazeley]

My word! What a truly astonishing and enlightening conversation, this is absolutely the kind of informed and well thought out video that should be shown in every single history class around the entire school system of the U.K. Most impressive.

[@erpollock]

We lost Roger Scruton, who was brilliant and at times, to the point of inscrutability. We do have Douglas Murray, who is young and intellectual and quite understandable. He still lives and writes and is simply marvelous!

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Scruton: "hesitate" Great man.

[@kingfisher9725]

I'm German and couldn't agree more. He is someone I enjoy listening to!

[@davemartino5997]

He was excellent

[@hullbreach33]

I didnt realize Murray was so jacked.

[@donningarmour2873]

Maybe you're using the wrong word, home boy. 🤨

[@samcarter2371]

@John webb But he is gay

[@sambobsam]

Same thought. He looks good today

[@michelle4688]

He wasn't (and trust me I've looked). He's made good use of his lockdown time. Drool.

[@PaquetasCar2147]

He may be gay but he's not in your face about his sexuality which, in truth, is great testimony to him.

[@lynwenrenwick5657]

HISTORY IS TO LEARN AND LEARN FROM ,without a history there is no existence ,if you have no past there will be no future as tomorrow is yesterday waiting in line .

[@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010]

Huh

[@Ann-qf5vk]

Thank you both for a brilliant conversation 👋👋🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@BrawsonProductions]

A truly brilliant thinker. His ability to articulate political events as they unfold is second to none.

[@thunderstruck1078]

@Bulgarian Horticulture Specialist PhD Correct. Individualism doesn't work when you're confronted with unified groups who hate your guts. This founding speech is more brilliant and much more direct and explicit than Murray: nationaljusticeparty.com

[@BrawsonProductions]

Bulgarian Horticulture Specialist PhD individualist? He’s speaking on behalf on the silent majority on issues which are clearly of importance to many British citizens. For me, the more rational right of centre thinkers we can get - the better. There is an overrepresented minority in this nation of radical leftists who would sooner destroy our culture than actually contribute anything useful to society.

[@thunderstruck1078]

@@BrawsonProductions True, but we need White unity, not individualism. That's the only way to confront this from a position of power. Everything else boils down to begging them to "stop and think what they are doing" or something equally ineffectual that Murray would propose. He never talks about solutions. And he certainly never mentions where all this is coming from, i.e. who is the ideological vanguard of the left (and has always been). Trotsky, a.k.a Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Churchill knew the truth and he wrote about it in Sunday Herald: en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

[@BrawsonProductions]

Thunderstruck I would disagree that ‘white unity’ is what the solution is here. Rather than stoop to the level of the left with this Marxist doctrine that individuals are categorised on race rather than a class system. We need more nationalism, less self deprecating identity politics and ‘white guilt’ displayed by the left, and frankly less pandering to this ridiculous notion that if you’re not with them then you’re against them. The need for healthy political debate and discourse is now more that ever! An environment has been created perhaps due to social media that if you oppose anything they say, you’re shunned as a racist/nazi. This fear of people to speak out at the risk of being publicly smeared is creating a wimpy, soft nation who are now having to ban TV shows because they’re ‘offensive’. The moment political discourse begins to break down and only one side is being heard due to censorship - we’re all fucked!

[@thunderstruck1078]

@@BrawsonProductions So what's your solution then? Civic nationalism has obviously failed. What now?

[@jessykaiser6373]

I live in Tucson, Arizona in the USA, and I completely agree with most of what he says. In the USA, all is falling apart, and even my neighbors have turned their backs to me, because I refused to join the violent acts committed in downtown, Tucson in the name of BLM. Black lives do matter, as do all others, but we cannot win over this mindset, until we stop addressing each other by skin color & stop seeing with tunnel vision & acting in violence. We need to see with the eyes of law and fairness. Reason has left the minds of many here & I frankly feel the need to move back to Japan, where I used to live & violence was practically non-existent.

[@mistahrodgers8635]

Don't worry sweetheart America won't fall ill fight them alone to keep you free and safe

[@jessykaiser6373]

@Divinity X I agree that we must stand up to oppressive regimes and tactics that pick out people because of their physical appearances. Believe me, my photo might appear as if I haven't been through it, but I have. I used to have severe scoliosis & get physically bullied nearly daily. Then there were the years I lived with my Native American partner when we would get pulled over more than others & get reamed with discriminatory & bullying tactics ... yes, both of us. Now in my forties, I have seen and felt my share of gun violence too. If we are to stand up to an oppressive regime, be they police, government or other, we need to do so together & without hate & avoid violent acts of "communication" as much as possible. It only splits us apart. Violence doesn't make us stronger. I have felt my unfair share of violence over the last 23 years in the US and am tired of fighting back, when I know that it most likely only leads to more violence. If the protest is peaceful, I am all for it, but not if it calls for criminal acts. I have been on the receiving end of these criminal acts and for what? I did not hurt or take from anybody & I worked my back off for 23 years to have what I have. We cannot take on the attitude that there will be casualties in these protests and accept it. Just put yourself in the shoes of those business owners who scraped up every penny and nickel for 30-40 years to keep their business, and then lost it in one night because someone threw a Molotov cocktail through their window. They don't have spare change in the amounts of $100K to start over again. We must find a solution peacefully & lawfully. How do we want our grandchildren to remember us?

[@jessykaiser6373]

@Divinity X I understand your frustrations. I feel them too. Believe me. I have left Education after 23 years, because I saw too much corruption there, and couldn't make a dent with other teachers who were frustrated along with me. Yet, they were too timid to stand up. Civil unrest is sometimes necessary, but the violence we have witnessed in recent months in the U.S. is so frightening, especially for a single woman like me. I actually considered getting a gun again, after nearly 20 years of not owning one. I just hope that people do not lose sight and I hope that they don't start to hurt one another nationwide, instead of defend and imprisoning the perpetrators. It has already happened in too many places. Let's hope we can solve this without more senseless injuries. Stay safe.

[@llddau]

Be glad you now know your neighbours are marxist terrorists or terrorist supporters, better than being in the dark about them.

[@gimmedemdigits6040]

George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose/hysteria. The cop will walk free if there is any true justice left. Then the real rioting will start. You don't have to worry if you are Japanese. The Maoists and blacks will attack but there are plenty here willing to/and have been preparing to fight them for a half-century. Critical race theory has blinded people from seeing reality. They can't be dealt with and I'm afraid there's going to be only one way in dealing with them if they push too far

[@cinhh]

It is an absolute pleasure to listen to Douglas Murray!

[@chrisbennett6260]

your having a laugh mate

[@annapachaclarke2392]

​@@chrisbennett6260Only when 🤡 pop up, as in your case!

[@peterweaver1248]

We are short on critical thinkers and Douglas Murray is a national treasure.

[@chriscummings1287]

I’m an American ~ this interview has warmed my heart. Thank you Douglas Murray for your common sense understanding. It gives me hope that truth can and will prevail.

[@christianfrommuslim]

Desousa's new film "Trump Card" interviews an insider who claims Arab money is bribing American media leaders.

[@robcrilley592]

While he speaks truth, the very real prospect of another civil war, especially against the backdrop of a contested election, can't warm anyone's heart. There is a large faction of people that would love to see America fall by the wayside, until they experience the Chinese world order... And by then it'll be too late.

[@jesusloveshismum]

pass this interview to all your US friends, most of us Brits would agree with Douglas, we know what is going on over there, in fact, because of your incredibly duplicitous MSN we know more about what is happening over there than most Democrat supporters.

[@MrWingtip]

I wish more of my fellow Americans would listen to Douglas Murray.

[@soundspur]

Agreed but it's also more of our fellow Brits should listen to Douglas Murray. Brits should also listen to Candace Owens & Jesse Lee Peterson 2 great voices for Black Americans both disavowing BLM with reason facts & logic!

[@daxcoco1229]

@@soundspur I'm a brit and Candace Owens is amazing, I'm hoping she will be potus In 2024.

[@robertdore9592]

..so do I...

[@ronnywilson6961]

@@daxcoco1229 not sure of president 2024 but she has a future in the government if she chooses

[@kamilkarwat2706]

Marcus Lorenzo What’s with her past? I do not know.

[@stepsvideos]

Douglas Murray remains absolutely riveting with his insights, no matter how many times you have heard him before.

[@radiationraven]

One of my favorite contemporary British thinkers. A formidable mind, and can articulate so much in a few sentences that takes most a page or two. Just brilliant.

[@monkeymox2544]

Yeah, he's great at saying awful things in a very articulate way. Makes it easy to recruit idiots to the cause of irrational hatred and paranoia.

[@facundoalvarado9]

"If you thought the American world order wasn't your taste, you'll LOVE the Chinese one. You'll love when you bring your human rights complaints to the CCP" - Douglas Murray

[@randyferguson3928]

NOT !

[@k4ir0s]

So so true. While America tears itself apart with movements like BLM and their far-left socialist ideas China continues to prosper because at least its people are united. The far-left think life in the West is bad now? Really? Many intelligent people believe (and have data to prove it) that we live in the best times right now. Wait until China surpasses the US as the leading global superpower and watch the world change. I want to throw these far-left buffoons in China for a year, or the middle east, or Russia, or so many other places in the world where they're completely POWERLESS against their government and with drastically less quality of life. Russia? Your vote is irrelevant, Putin always wins. China? You're not even allowed to browse Facebook or any social media where you can privately gather in groups. Middle east? Better wear a hijab and cover your legs.

[@zighunt]

.the Chinese one is coming to a country near you slowly but surely year by year from the power crazed aggresive and closed minded control freaks..

[@abhinavdangwal6180]

That statement on its own is indefensible. No system is perfect, and to try and improve it by criticising its weaknesses and strengthening it, is something both conservatives and progressives agree on. The quoted text is the equivalent of saying, "Oh you don't like the way this country is being run? Go to China, or Russia, or whatever other worse off nation you can think of." Something neither of the parties wants. I haven't heard much from Murray, from what I have, he seems like a man who favours reason. Out of context quotes like that don't do him justice.

[@Pablo98145]

This is what useful idiots, sjws and blm lovers don't get... They live in telly tubby land.

[@anthonyreed480]

Read all his books. A fantastic writer and public-speaker. If you haven't already read "The Madness of Crowds" do yourself a favour!

[@zakcl00]

He reads the audiobooks himself, they are outstanding.

[@johnwinchester6934]

I'll pick it up thanks for the heads up!

[@jeanraspail2979]

The Strange Death of Europe was much more signifikant imo, both are good reads though.

[@dav_poy]

Got the paperback coming this week, can't wait!

[@meMiner]

He is a very thoughtful man. Always a worthwhile read or listen.

[@lynwenrenwick5657]

All people who enter or live in a country ,regardless what country -the laws of that country must be accepted otherwise you are a criminal in that country . If the laws of the country you are in are not fully acceptable to you then it is time to find a more suitable country to move too .

[@michaelstimpson1137]

And you know that just because that they are laws doesn't make them just. Many people knew the laws in nazi Germany were unjust but they had families and lives there and they probably hoped that things might be OK

[@michaelstimpson1137]

@Molly Mars No that's true, but that doesn't mean all laws in the UK are just. Many laws still benefit the wealthy landowners above the working and middle classes. When somebody points out that these laws are unjust, doesn't mean that they should leave the country, surely it is in the public interest to make them just. Most folks in the UK are too stupid to see how they are conditioned to believe things about the UK that other countries would find absurd. I noticed how this guy's boarding school plummy accent acts like a dog whistle to us working class people. Had Murray had a broad Yorkshire accent I am sure that he would not be as convincing to us. It is always good to be aware of these biases in our own thinking

[@SJM6791]

Douglas’s analysis on the asylum system in Britain and the USA is spot on. Why are we allowing so many able bodied fighting aged men into our countries for very trivial reasons?

[@winskypinsky]

Douglas brings out my inner Pavlov’s Dog: I see his name, I click. 🐕

[@redstarbetty7997]

Me too - I find him so fascinating to listen to, he's never a chore!

[@traceyreid4585]

Same here, I have learned so much and gained more perspective through his reasoning that I ever have in the past. I've just finished The Madness of Crowds but I want to get the paper back as he's written a new chapter to take into accounts the unravelling events of the last 6/7 month

[@theyeticlutch3486]

Lol

[@mezzuna]

Pavlov's dog?

[@seanpadraigobrien1260]

@@mezzuna pavlovian conditioning. it's how the world is brainswashed and accepted the new normal and hates anyone who doesn't

[@jonathanalexandergreen305]

Douglas made a point that I have been thinking about for a littlewhile. America's fall is China and Russias gain, and that fills me with dread.

[@LordJagd]

Why? Not challenging just want to hear an elaboration.

[@bronsonbull9521]

Jonathan Alexander Green China’s new province formerly known as America

[@jak9483]

Yes. I deeply believe that Marxism is at the core of all this. I looked up the Communist doctrine and it is all coming to pass.

[@nohumbug8636]

OMG. Calm down. Propaganda is more dangerous.

[@gdaqian]

Leave Russia out please! Difference btw China and Russia is night and day.

[@shylinh5939]

Such an intelligent man, he always produces a good argument.

[@wardygrub]

"Where are all these people saying black lives don't matter?". Spot on again Murray!

[@talimn]

Basically the entire comment section here says precisely that. And he’s missing the entire point - it has never been about blaming all white people - it specifically is a protest about police brutality.

[@user-zm8xv8tl2l]

@@talimn Rubbish. Not once have I seen anybody on media in the UK complaining about police brutality. All the supporters in the UK are complaining about 'colonisation' and 'the slave trade' and 'rule britannia'.

[@talimn]

@@user-zm8xv8tl2l talking about America here, where the Black Lives Matter movement started.

[@user-zm8xv8tl2l]

@@talimn The movement has lost its initial purpose. It lost within a day of the movement starting. If I saw 'black lives matters' without any context, I too would think it's just a general slogan to combat racism against black. It should be called 'reform the American police movement'

[@talimn]

@@user-zm8xv8tl2l If you were a black american who was deeply affected by this issue and decided to make a civil rights group to combat it, then you could name it whatever you want. You didn't so three women took it into their own hands and that is the name they chose. And it didn't lose the movement in the least.

[@andyruyssevelt7230]

Brilliant interview. Douglas Murray is a complete legend as he demonstrates that common sense can prevail.

[@OctoBox]

Trump plead the 5th 400 times / he has tried to settle many times his 400 document proving Bank Fraud / Tax Fraud / Insurance Fraud NY case.....Eric Trump plead the 5th over 800 times. Remember when Donald said (very publicaly) that when Democrats plead the fifth they are cowards and def guilty??? At-least Jordan Petersen (now / very late) is saying Trump is not a good politician or good man. Fair-weather fan.

[@davemartino5997]

Common sense isn’t that common anymore

[@Pacabelle]

The eminent philosopher, Roger Scruton left this world too soon. But Scurton lives on in Douglas Murray. Whenever we listen to Douglas Murray, we can hear very similar views that Scruton would have expressed concerning the preservation of our culture and heritage.

[@erpollock]

That's exactly what I wrote! Douglas Murray is the successor to Roger Scruton, though a bit more intellectually accessible.

[@Elbownian]

@SamWeller He'd probably agree, but still, a tiny bit mean.

[@08waltew]

@paper darts who’s culture and heritage sorry?

[@calumcooke2040]

I disagree, Murray is great and always worth listening to but he's no philosopher. Listen to his interview with Cosmicskeptic, a theology undergrad at oxford. By no means was it career-ending but it's clear he's simply not on the same level as Sir Roger Scruton was.

[@shyman3000]

@SamWeller So true.

[@user-oi8ue3ns1g]

Need to see more of this guy on TV.

[@sjm2752]

The Madness of Crowds. Thank God for The Sanity of Douglas Murray. The guy's a breath of fresh air amid the stench!

[@Princesslaya90]

he is just so rational and logical and makes so much sense, we need more people like Douglas Murray ..just love him 💜 🇮🇪🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@jayeye4798]

Yes, much too good for the masses that avoid critical thinking, embrace the ridiculous, and find purpose in championing a phantom problem. Murray is unfortunately much too educated and insightful to impact the sheep who choose to wear blinders.

[@juanzulu1318]

@bobby sternlicht no. Obviously not.

[@bam1742]

What's the story with the flags?

[@fluffycrepe4057]

Couldn't agree more but in a time where people believe what they want based on false narratives what good is facts & logic?. Its why most people who have these qualities are labeled racist or extremist.

[@scarlet8078]

​@bobby sternlicht Friend, you are brainwashed. The US is the most prosperous, privileged & egalitarian nation in history, despite having a past (like ALL nations) that involves misogyny & r@ce-based divisions. I say this as a mixed woman of color who's worked all over the world: we are better off in the US. Are there events in which a person's prejudices might impact their actions? Of course. Should we continue working to improve our society to make it more just? Always. But to focus on the negatives blinds us to reality. This is the great danger of social media - it blows up a few incidents & shows that to the world. Far more police are sh0t by criminals than criminals sh0t by police. Our police are tasked with maintaining law & order in a highly armed society, so when a criminal resisting arrest reaches into his pocket or car, they must assume he'll raise that arm in a hail of bu11ets, so they must neutralize that threat. Whether or not he's armed is irrelevant to their justified use of force, yet the media immediately runs the headline "unarmed man sh0t by c0ps!" In my city, NYC, persons of color commit 97% of h0micides, so it's impossible to eliminate r@cial disparity in policing until we change that. Our communities know this & our black leaders in the Bronx have made clear that we do NOT want our police defunded. NYPD is mostly minority cops, anyway, & has a higher approval rating than our mayor or teachers union. Our police save lives & prevent terr0rist attacks. The Marxist lie of BLM does not reflect the views of actual bl@ck folks in our country. The DNC funds BLM riots in election years like 2016 & 2020 to rile up society & increase turnout of bl@ck voters. They do this while simultaneously telling us, as Biden has "the other side wants to put bl@ck folks in chains!" & "If you don't vote for me, you ain't bl@ck." The manipulation is embarrassing. If you doubt this, note that the website antifa (dot) com is owned by Biden campaign & redirects to his election site which requests donations. The DNC is literally bailing out rioters, advertising the riots & fundraising from them. Then, Biden tells America that he'll stop the rioting if we elect him. Of course he will. After the election, whoever wins will put the remaining protestors in jail. He'll say he "established law & order" & claim that as a success of his presidency. Don't let yourself be used by BLM. Don't buy into a narrative that doesn't empower you, that says we lack privilege & are unable to better our place in society without government handouts. More & more of us are waking up, & that is why the bl@ck vote has swung 30% in the direction of conservatives in recent months. Older persons of color vote largely out of fear, bc some can recall Jim Crow. But even they are starting to see that the Constitutional amendments & equal rights given to us are permanent & nobody wants to take them away. We need to move on from voting based on skin tone & stop letting ourselves be manipulated

[@ienekevanhouten4559]

I just love this man. He is reasonable and nuanced in an age of polarisation.

[@darrenpat182]

Everybody's keeps using the word nuance lately

[@ienekevanhouten4559]

Pat Rick Good! It has been missing.

[@darrenpat182]

@@ienekevanhouten4559 it's use is no longer nuanced ;)

[@ienekevanhouten4559]

Pat Rick It is becoming a full time job to keep up with the latest shifts in the meaning of words. So, what would be an appropriate term for indicating the ability to see multiple points of view, and shades of grey instead of everything in black and white?

[@jrhartley6742]

@@darrenpat182 Yes, but it's all this binary, with me/against me crap. I like nuance and grey areas, and long answers, I think it used to be called 'being grown-up'

[@clips14896]

What a charming, intelligent and well-spoken man. I wish we had leaders like him.

[@MB-vu3ow]

Proud parents, I’m sure.

[@GailPlatt]

I just wish Douglas would go into politics. He is unique in his clarity of thinking and his elegant, reasoned style of speaking is like a breath of fresh air compared with the ranting, aggressive oration that is so often used by others to make a point.

[@rogerclark3229]

No - He would be caught up in the machine and would have to trim his views. He's better outside giving advice.

[@pjb3413]

I desperately hope Douglas starts a podcast.

[@detroittechno7904]

Pieter-jan Bastyns I don’t. Everyone and there dog has one. I think he’s a far too unique and a different animal. He’s best appearing as guest. Less is always more.

[@pjb3413]

@@detroittechno7904 fair enough, but i just think theres no such thing as "too much" meaningful conversation. With partizan msm and volatile political rethoric flying around on both sides, one must push reason as well...

[@detroittechno7904]

Pieter-jan Bastyns man I love the guy. He jut get it right. I wish people would stay away from social media and this urge for such hostility. And listen more to people like Douglas Murray. And when they do listen not forget 5 mins later and go back to their ways.

[@gingerbard2607]

Douglas is right about the empty stadiums - there'd have been loud booing.

[@amcsibozgor6791]

That's a helluva good point that didn't occur to me. That's why Douglas is selling books and I'm not.

[@TheDominicProject]

that's sad that he's right though

[@andrewmccann9710]

Maybe at Chelsea and Milwall. That's about it.

[@careym3901]

The speed in which pro sports had adopted this BLM narrative is crazy! This is not a wholesome movement. They are anti family, anti white and several other things that will make your head spin. Don't believe me, look it up on their website!

[@TR-vv7hc]

I think that’s more of a reflection of the collective IQ of fans in stadiums.

[@Lori-xt2lf]

Fantastic! I’ve never heard him be so passionate and direct. He’s a gem.

[@mariamichael1807]

Douglas Murray is an old head on young shoulders.a truly wise man. Our world needs ore men like Douglas Murray……indomitable character, integrity and true spirit. Please please keep speaking your truth Mr Murray.

[@dav_poy]

He is just so clear-minded and thoughtful about the times we are living through. One of the most vital cultural commentators in the country.

[@Andbil]

In the world even

[@rm9308]

You had better supplant all the idiots on TV and in front of the classrooms with people like him before it's too late. Too many have a warped perspective.

[@barbarahenninger6642]

And a regular bigot.

[@rm9308]

@@barbarahenninger6642 Some people have good opinions and some have bad ones. Murray is intolerant of the latter. Everyone with a brain is a bigot.

[@prophetsnake]

You mean the soon to be gone UK?

[@matsfreedom]

Those that support BLM can't get past their rage long enough to listen to a reasoned, intelligent man like Murray.

[@ollies246]

There are many that support the grass roots movement but not the organisation. There are also many that support the protests but not the rioting. Making these kind of grand generalisations about people with a particular ideology is the kind of identity politics that Murray speaks out against. I'm a supporter of the BLM movement and I listened to the talk. I agreed with some things and disagreed with others. I haven't read his book but I am completely open to it. As someone who considers himself on the left regarding most social and economic issues, I wouldn't for instance say that everyone who supports tuition fees is a cold blooded, sociopath. This kind of language is divisive and untrue.

[@matsfreedom]

@@ollies246 Nobody in America denies that "black lives matter", so the entire premise for BLM's movement is a diversion. The "peaceful" protesters support the riots by default. Virtually none of them are speaking out against the rioting and looting. BLM supporters are defacto supporters of a Marxist movement, and are clueless of the actual "cause". BLM's leaders are self proclaimed Marxists, are they not? They are angry, race baiting thugs, no different than ANTIFA. Their public comments are obvious proof, and their core doctrine, found right on their website, denotes their distain for American values. Liberals who support the Democrat platform support ultra high taxes, elimination of fossil fuels, open borders, free health care (even for illegal immigrants), free education for all, universal basic income, elimination of our 1st and 2nd amendment rights, indefinite enforcement of mask mandates (among many other social mandates), defunding of police departments, empowerment of radical organizations, destruction of historical monumemts, and post-birth abortion. I've left some of their insane positions out, no doubt.The Democrat Party has become radicalized. It takes an honest person 30 seconds to realize this. The party is so disconnected that their lead candidate is an elderly man with dementia. To deny this is irresponsible. Not a single, viable, old-school liberal wants anything to do with the leadership of the party, and so the radicals roll over them. I'm seasoned enough to remember when Democrats were pro-American, and pro-Constitution. Those days are gone. Every city in America that is currently on fire from rioting, is run by Leftist Democrats. Every rioter, looter, and protester in those cities is a Democrat voter. They seek only destruction and offer no solutions. Why? Because they are rage filled and cannot think clearly enough to offer any. They are "useful idiots" for a cause that is designed to destroy the entire country, starting with Portland and coming to a town near you. You feel that the "cause" is about racism. You, my friend, are wrong.

[@ollies246]

​@Cylenium I wasn't comparing them at all. I was making an analogy to highlight the senselessness in making these kinds of generalisations. My point was that you see it on both the left and the right and it does nothing but close down discussion and push people away from your argument. Murray is so right about this. I do take your point thought. Perhaps tuition fees wasn't the best example. You could use support for the war in Iraq instead. I wouldn't say that everyone who supported the war in Iraq was a cold blooded, sociopath. There are those who might, but I find it nonsensical and simply untrue. You're making an argument, using reason and I whole heartedly support you in doing so. I'm aware that the BLM movement is founded by self proclaimed Marxists but I wasn't aware that they are responsible for death. Because you decided to use discussion rather than identity politics, I'll research that. This is the point I was making.

[@ollies246]

@@matsfreedom You and I have so much to untangle in this discussion. However, it's too much for me on a youtube comments section I'm afraid. I don't think we'd do anything but butt heads. I completely respect your opinions though and if you were making this argument in person I'd say lets have at it over a beer.

[@BB-vq6cb]

@Cylenium dont wast your time arguing with that SMFKR. He's been brainwashed..

[@ajwebb220587]

The Sam Harris podcast he refers to is also jaw-dropping in how clear and thought provoking it is on BLM. The statistics about the number, outcome, and racial mix of police interactions per year are astonishing.

[@snozzybosch7503]

It’s blessing to see there are some intelligent and critical thinkers left in the world.

[@martin2514]

Apparently we hate him for being gay.... However we flock to listen to him when he speaks. A level headed voice of reason yet a very good barometer of the British people.

[@danielstoned]

You can’t be gay even if you have sex with other men whilst being conservative. It’s common knowledge.

[@CerebralFriction]

@@danielstoned clever boy

[@jessepalmer9271]

Who's we

[@davidmccormick4319]

I don’t hate him for anything. I admire him for everything.

[@cliffm6566]

daniels shamroks you’re absolutely right, I mean that’s what The Advocate said about Peter Thiel and when The Advocate decrees who can be gay and who isn’t,you gotta believe it🤡

[@cangeljan12]

Douglas you're such a gentleman , and very handsome and by far the smartest kid on the block 🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮

[@CCDR07]

At minute 6:41, where he says, "where is the opposition that says "Black lives don't matter?". I actually think this is the point that BLM is trying to make, the opposition is everywhere in social, economic, and environmental injustice! We live in a system that literally says "poor lives" don't matter. We should all be engaging in a process to remove injustic from our society, not undermine and dismiss people who feel strongly enough about injustice to get on the street and protest. For example, instead of dividing ourselves, why don't we all get together and demand voter and election reform? Starting with a maximum 100 quid limit to individual/institutional donations to political parties or election campaigns. That would be a good start.

[@davidbaker8957]

How the government aren’t talking to this man I’ll never know he’s spot on about everything.

[@justinp.3256]

Douglas Murray's been hiding the fact he has Captain America's physique this entire time lol. We see those muscles Douglas :D

[@juanzulu1318]

A sharp brain in a sharp body. 😎👍

[@chumneywarner8147]

My wife agrees...😀

[@bullishbrad]

what can I say the man got lockdown hench

[@jaimieyrichards7382]

had a thing for him for yrs

[@alexanderkent2754]

I know, right?! Those arms!

[@taffwob]

"You should not listen to critics who are fundamentally dishonest & do not wish you well"

[@SkippyHatesMe]

He says we're on the precipice but refuses to take a side when asked who to vote for... What courage!

[@gx2music]

Anyone else on a Douglas Murray binge ?

[@robnewbold1]

When Douglas Murray is worried, so am i.

[@rubberrocket7620]

@Marcus Lorenzo you mean like all modern philosophers / journalists.. he makes very accurate descriptions of the current situation, if you take the time to listen. I agree with him on most points too. not all.

[@RobertMJohnson]

@@rubberrocket7620 on which points do you not agree with Mr. Murray?

[@eleanorlondon1961]

@Marcus Lorenzo disagree totally. He had a fascinating insight and actually demonstrates the antithesis of stoking worry. He's an intelligent pragmatist!

[@darrenpaech1342]

As soon as I saw Douglas Murray I hit the like button! Also an Australian fan. He's a voice of reason in a world gone crazy.

[@leenaronalds4155]

Every time I see Douglas Murray something happens to my heart... in a good way.

[@peacefulpleb]

He will ably replace their likes of Sir Roger Scruton in terms of thinking and commentary. I do not agree with all his says, but his erudition as a speaker on the right of British politics is currently peerless. He needs to keep going to balance off the diatribe of the far left 'woke'.

[@alanbstard4]

Not a chance

[@bengarrett7727]

The cop was following departmental guidelines on how to deal with an uncooperative retainee like Floyd. That has been completely overlooked in such a rush to judgement.

[@Th3Kingism]

And Floyd also was likely suffering from the effects of a drug overdose, if you watch the body cam footage he says repeatedly that he can't breathe WAY before the cops ever lay him on the ground and he also asks the police to lay him down. In a few shots you can also see white foam coming from Floyd's mouth, another sign of a drug overdose. His actual cause of death was likely the OD on top of the stress of the situation and possibly heart problems.

[@AnnaLVajda]

Yeah the cops do need some better guidelines but they are not always out of line. Floyd was cuffed and not armed and he just kneed him to death with 4 of them I think they could have managed an arrest they did not really care. It is good they were arrested. Look at Australia now though they are arresting people even a pregnant woman for a facebook post. It's not just blacks is the issue.

[@funnypetsspencer6069]

I love Douglas Murray. I have read all his books, he's amazing. I could listen to him all day, why is he not running the country?

[@stevejones466]

He's too clever!

[@FriendBe]

Very intelligent man. Would love to hear more from him.

[@karenielsen4713]

Why are people like THIS not in charge??? WHY??!!!!!

[@rubenfratean3256]

In The words of Trump, ,, it's a miserable life", so unless such people are willing to sacrifice parts of themselves, there's no reason to do it.

[@christophercoey7804]

Because he is a limited contrarian of limited ideas and intellectual capacity.

[@James-sk4db]

Haha cope harder

[@wimschweer6738]

When were these Brits back in the USA and in charge??:?:

[@dabeveryday9991]

people like him have been in charge for 40 years you whalloper

[@stevekellett6934]

Murray's latest book The Madness Of Crowds is the ultimate guide on how to circumnavigate the current craze for politically correct madness.

[@kjdinoc]

Must purchase.

[@AlexGalloway1993]

The ability for two people with opposing views to have an intelligent conversation about the world is one that we need to encourage.

[@dandonovan11]

@Because we can Blairised *

[@TheAultimusPrime]

Douglas is a national treasure

[@nilszandt4378]

That’s why he spends all his time in America chasing money.

[@nickmitchell6443]

​@@nilszandt4378Your comment is utterly pointless.

[@reuterromain1054]

@@nilszandt4378 We all are chasing after money. If Douglas makes a lot of cash, that`s OK for me. Why not? .

[@saragonmcenany6229]

He’s a grifter funded by the donor class

[@TesterAnimal1]

He’s a shithole.

[@timokeefe8418]

May I say what a pleasure it is to listern to Douglas Murray

[@maureenbouey]

Intelligent, articulate, thoughtful - always a pleasure.

[@shubhreetlalli8671]

Can't even say he's aging like fine wine cause actually he looks younger and younger each year. 😍😍😍😍

[@melska]

He is in very good shape, indeed

[@edwardmcmanus]

If only he was a black lesbian. Still, he is a gay. So that's not bad!!

[@AnnaLVajda]

Don't even worry about what he looks like just listen to him vanity over 40 is rather ridiculous anyway.

[@jamesoneill5070]

Benjamin Button?

[@motorhead48067]

Isn’t that exactly what aging like wine means? It’s gets better with time rather than worse? If he looks younger than the analogy to wine fits perfect. I get your point just saying.

[@AZ0986688]

Yes, I have read way too few books and am going to the library tomorrow!❤

[@allancrotch2953]

AS a 64 year old factory worker who voted labour consistently for 40 years this man resonates in a way no left wing speaker does for me anymore, but i guess thats why Boris has an 80 seat majority .

[@vaxdatex8540]

The problem with books by people like Murray is that those who should read them the most to educate themselves don't read them. Those who do read them mostly find more or less confirmed what they already knew/ thought.

[@jaketaylor3603]

What a stupid patronising remark,

[@vaxdatex8540]

@@jaketaylor3603 Really? How so? Care to explain or are you just randomly insulting people you don't know and never will?

[@BlurryDays]

So essentially... the people who don’t read his books should read his books, and the people who do read his books, well it wasn’t really as important... I think this is why Jake Taylor reacted like that - You could say the same thing about literally any kind of useful knowledge: the people who don’t know should know and the people who do, well they aren’t as benefitted by it. It’s a very confusing and pointless point if you break it down. People who read are typically smarter than those who don’t, so it’s not surprising that people who read his books lean towards agreeing with him. The point of books is to inform those who are open to the ideas, we don’t expect it to convert those who are not open to ideas. The problem is people being close-minded and ignorant to information, not the fact that books are being written that they choose not to read. But I do agree with your point: people who don’t read should read.

[@corporate_marshmallow]

I agree absolutely with you. It wasn't patronising at all.

[@vaxdatex8540]

@@BlurryDays I do read his and many other books. It wasn't meant as interpreted. Maybe I didn't state the point in the best way possible. The reaction however shows another issue which is that in today's society negative intentions are assumed from the get go instead of assuming that the other person means well. Resorting to immediately calling somebody/ something stupid or other things doesn't solve anything nor does it contribute to constructive discourse. Asking questions with real intent of gathering more information would. But that is work and one has to overcome ego which is probably our biggest enemy. I'm not saying nobody should read. Even if you take the, apparently poor worded, statement about those who do read some books are just confirming what they already though, that in itself is not a bad thing either. The tendency, especially online, seems to pick out fragments of something and then take offense while ignoring the more important part. Those who should read books like Murray's, or Graeber's, or Hegel, or Kant, or Plato, or any other works don't.

[@staybeautifulSB]

Anyone got a before and after lockdown of D.Murray's arms? Aha

[@gemmalouisecross759]

I thought it was only me that'd noticed that 😍

[@jmh8697]

Every time he makes a good point he does one push-up ☺️💪🏻

[@curiositygun93]

He was in another interview last year with a younger lad and he was about as jacked, that's what they say about conservative men tend to work out more.

[@justinelliott3529]

J MH he’d have hulk hogan arms

[@MOOSEDOWNUNDER]

Just received my copy Downunder. Looking forward to a good read up the river next week. Bright and engaging man. Love his work.

[@strzelba8254]

As a native polish speaker, listening to Douglas Murray and understanding it completely, i might say, i know english language.

[@michaelwhite8031]

I love Douglas Murray, Jordan Petersan and Melanie Phillips.

[@phizzz6111]

What a fucking Renaissance man you are

[@michaelwhite8031]

@@phizzz6111 Ahhhh snowflake

[@michaelwhite8031]

@David O'Reilly don't talk rubbish

[@Benboy1980]

Don’t forget Sam Harris! And of course Christopher Hitchens 👍🏻

[@mish_m7619]

for years now I want to watch the three of them in a panel a good three hour long conversation in depth of all our corrent issues. that would be wonderful.

[@wazztvproductions]

One of the best free thinkers in the world. We need more of his ilk.

[@lizgiagnacovo1067]

'free thinker'? conservative establishment to the core.

[@lizgiagnacovo1067]

@Ian TB you are right, liberals dont know their right from their left either!

[@neillambert8713]

The best conversation I have heard in many many years.!

[@safa4786]

Douglas has always said we should never be afraid of having discourse...about any subject. Discourse is the way forward.

[@AFGuidesHD]

"even with video evidence people don't accept it" well yes there's still the matter of perspective, look at that recent shooting Some people see a cop shooting a black man in the back Other people see a known criminal refusing to surrender and potentially get a weapon from his car

[@BitterClinger1947]

AFGuidesHD In the first part of your statement, you just defined “willful ignorance” brilliantly. Cheers.

[@AFGuidesHD]

@@BitterClinger1947 what do you mean?

[@revival45]

That's all well and good about perspective, as you say some see a known criminal potentially running away, there are numerous perspective but there is one actual outcome the guy being shot. The possibility of going for a weapon is just as good as him not going for a weapon. I thi 'the issue is not these hypotheticals but more a issue of is the use of that lethal force necessary?

[@workhorse7134]

@@revival45 he had already sexually assaulted the women once before and stole her credit cards. He went back again and stole her car keys which is why the police were called. He was tasked twice, had a cop in a headlock at one point and then escaped, headed back to the car and reached in. The cops were well within the rights to not wait to see what he was reaching in the car for considering the preceding events and known examples of other criminals who have pulled out guns and shot the police.

[@BitterClinger1947]

Ni Como This is all rubbish. When you’re a cop, you have to make split-second decisions. I’m sure this cop was not running through his list of hypotheticals when dealing with this proven dangerous felon. The son of a bitch got what he deserved.

[@dinmavric5504]

Good interview, very humble person. History isn't so black and white (pun not intended)

[@monaarora3947]

Douglas murray is my hunky-dory 😍

[@user-qi4hu1cq5o]

I begin to wonder whether they, whoever that is, want to divide and turn us all on each other, keeping us distracted for whatever they want to slip in!

[@NicoleMichelChannel]

That’s exactly what I think is going on!

[@Christie197]

Douglas Murray for priminister

[@DP-cd5wr]

Douglas Murray is incredibly tuned in.

[@oliversmith4130]

Olly is great at interviews seems like a good bloke, Douglas is as brilliant as ever!

[@annedobson-mack3688]

Thanks from a Canadian for recognizing the contribution of the colonies to the outcome of WWII.

[@susanmitchell5317]

I could listen to Douglas and his wise words forever.....

[@shylinh5939]

Me too.