Downhill Bike Or Enduro Bike | Which Is Better?

Can enduro bikes handle everything that downhill bikes can? Which bike performs better in a bike park? Do the advantages when descending on a downhill bike outweigh the disadvantages when going uphill? Neil and Blake took a couple of bikes each to Whistler Bike Park to find out 🤘
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[@gmbn]

If you could only have one bike what would it be?

[@mineburgerl804]

enduro

[@lisapet160]

XC or Trail: decided by a coin flip.

[@sandeshborlikar9822]

Aggressive Hardtail bike😄😄

[@martial8574]

A good all mountain who can climb good and descend good, i currently own a 140/140mm,.My dream bike is a lapierre zesty AM.

[@eduardocadona461]

A stumpjumper

[@chrisgarty]

I want to see a “behind the scenes”. How do those camera men get around the mountain?! I think those camera men are doing the harder work! 🤣

[@Aerondogo]

They (usually) use E-bikes.

[@k1ng.k0e]

Drones most the time

[@danielalokar8760]

Who asked

[@Brandonmtbni]

@@danielalokar8760 me

[@_gummikko_]

Decision is super easy if you only have 15000 to buy both bikes 🤦‍♂️

[@yannispop6575]

blake has a nukeproof enduro bike and canyon downhill bike and neil is the exact opposite. lol

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Yea, isn’t it nice to be sponsored? Lucky buggers

[@trentont8695]

Yannis Pop did you also notice that Blake has fox and Neil has rockshox

[@yannispop6575]

Trenton T true lol

[@erpol9258]

Enduro if you can have 1 bike and you don't go to a bike park a lot . Enduro bike can do all

[@williamturbyfill6250]

Just explained my exact situation. Have a specialized Enduro expert carbon but it is a 26 inch from 2014

[@sickmak90]

Enduro is probably overkill for most people.

[@erpol9258]

@@sickmak90 what do you mind by overkill ?

[@Chkhenkelosaur]

@@erpol9258 I agree with him, Enduro bikes are relatively heavier and have too much travel, and no remote suspension lockout usually. Sometimes you want to do climbs and ride on smoother terrain, and having 160-170mm suspension for such rides might not be optimal. I'd say XC for sure, and maybe also trail bikes are better all-around bikes.

[@erpol9258]

@@Chkhenkelosaur it depend what you do obviously. Me personnally i'am more dh and enduro . I do some long ride and climb and my 170/170 bike is not the best for that but it work really good for jump, dh and enduro track.

[@cedricfreivogel3882]

If you can afford only one bike than the enduro is the obvious choice because it's so versatile and you can do literally everything. However for the park I prefer my dh bike, just makes way more fun and gives me more security.

[@jonathanoxlade4252]

Or have two wheel sets even if you have a more heavy bike even tho climbing would not be ideal with a 16kg bike have a single speed setup for pure downhill use and geared for going to work use but it would mean taking the derailleur off when you want to downhill maybe that's where the wireless derailleur is useful no wires just set I up for typical cross country and have another a wheel set for single speed may mean swapping to a smaller chain link system for it if you plan to take the bike out downhill set It up for it

[@ROSE-by5su]

Or should I get 180mm travel Enduro bike set it up like DH

[@mitskoala0380]

First time to see Neil on a DH Bike, and he's Flying !!

[@Arrica101]

He used to be a dh world cup racer. No wonder he is flying

[@marcosharvey1427]

Great channel. Can't wait to watch this one now.

[@Kirkov36]

I prefer Enduro, because its more versatile

[@kevinfrmkdz]

My trek session is my trail bike 😂 its heavy on climbs but the way I see it itll only feel easier when I finally get an enduro 😂

[@ianblueadventure]

Someday I'll keep on dreaming I'll be having my enduro bike!!!! For now I will go to sleep and dreaming that bike...

[@gabrieldean9559]

I know the feeling. Been wanting a new bike since 2009. Finally pulled the trigger and bought something a few months ago!

[@ianblueadventure]

Gabriel Dean wow good for you man, I’m jealous. 😔

[@gabrieldean9559]

@@ianblueadventure sorry man i didn't mean for it to come across ina negative way. I just meant hopefully soon.

[@rolux4853]

Save a thousand dollars and get a 4 year old enduro bike. It’ll be much more capable than you are and you’ll have so much fun at a relatively reasonable price!

[@ramonzimmermann3995]

Just work a bit and you'll earn enough money.

[@liliandao822]

And what about the freeride bikes ? Shorter but still long travel, can pedal better than the DH ones, and more comfy than an enduro one :) #askgmbn

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Enduro bikes are becoming free ride bikes, 170mm front and rear vs 180mm front and rear isn’t really noticeable, but the enduro lines can out pedal free rides with better suspension designs

[@liliandao822]

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged Wise answer, thank you 👌🏼

[@blackmetalgoat9060]

these days a freeride bike is just a dh bike with harder suspension and usually 26" wheels

[@rudySTi]

black metal goat nah freeride bikes are 27.5

[@jaimieboy999]

@@rudySTi go check all the bikes at loose fest, most using 26" wheels.

[@jooncash4709]

Neil’s back on a DH! Don’t call it a comeback!

[@willbennett7107]

COMEBACK

[@haustierone]

if i had a real mountain/hill around & a bikepark - i'd MAYBE buy a DH, but since i dont, i dont. :) & :( thumbed up of course !

[@JRGVirals]

Phridz I live in Nebraska :( All I got is tranquillity park or custom trails.

[@freshturns_snowboarding]

"You really notice how versatile" the enduro bike is, Neil says as he bottoms out the front fork in the vid...

[@Smurfnotbad]

I'd go enduro because it's better for every day riding because of the gearing but has enough suspension travel for downhill sections at bike parks

[@robabrobab4044]

4123y9cau4maybe the same hand

[@tallulahbeaverhausen4382]

Just finished the Steamboat Epic video with Si and now, I'm in for another treat ! You guys at GCN and GMBN are spoiling us ! :)

[@willbros1499]

The comments at the end nailed it. It's fatiguing to ride those grades, and by day 3...a DH bike is so much nicer. For mere mortals, I also think it helps you gain confidence, because you do have more forgiveness on a DH bike. That confidence translates almost directly to riding an enduro bike, and you feel more comfortable doing bigger features and more difficult tech lines. DH bikes are just impractical. Enduro bikes have gotten so capable, that unless it's park riding exclusively, DH bikes are virtually useless. I don't think our local shops have sold more than 2-3 DH bikes a year here around Bentonville, and those are all for people who are headed out west to ride a few times a year and don't want to rent.

[@energ8t]

Whistler demands a DH bike for almost all the mountain. I rode enduro last year and DH this year. DH all the way.

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

I rode there lots with a Giant Trance that I swapped in a 150mm pike on, worked great. Whistler flow trails are built so well you could prolly use a hard tail and not need much travel. The techy trails are a bit gnarly but can be done with any mid/long travel fully

[@venomtv2928]

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged can be done is something different than can have fun

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Yabut we’re talking about maybe 10-20% of the trails are “can be done” and 80-90% are still fun with mid/long travel fully. To spend $4-5 thousand on a one trick pony is dumb unless you’re racing or live there. A good enduro or aggressive trail bike can ride there and pretty much everywhere else in the world as well. Neil’s comment “this was better on the enduro” part way through says that enduros are actually more capable in some parts of the park as well. I’d take his perspective over most

[@energ8t]

Mr. ZiggedWhenHeShuddaZagged Yeah, I meant if you had to make a decision toward a single bike for Whistler, go DH. I rode a 120 on the flowy stuff last year, but still... You get mad arm pump on brake bumps, tore up tracks and extended long runs especially if you don't have DH worthy brakes. You can really send some gnar with 220 and walk away with a massive grin on day one. To each their own though.

[@venomtv2928]

@@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged I was talking about those gnarly trails, and i still think that they aren't fun with 150mm. I agree with you on the other part :). I'am a racer so i'll stick to the downhill bike

[@Acceleronics]

#askgmbn I'm a newbie (but old - 65!) mtb rider. I bought a Specialized Turbo Levo Expert because I don't have the strength to climb the steepest trails near me without the motor assist. Would you put the Expert into the enduro bucket because of its travel (150, I think)? Or would you put it in the downhill bucket because of its geometry and weight?

[@williamgalloway4798]

Enduro

[@core-i7413]

Enduro, you can easily tell by the fact that your bike can't be a DH bike with 150mm travel.

[@jakemixd]

2:11 that brake is in tune with the music.

[@ragefalcon4990]

😂I thought that's music

[@charliecosevski4720]

Downhill would obviously be better on downhill trails but the word enduro pretty much means good for everything so uphill, downhill and everyday riding

[@pedromiguel1389]

Silly question maybe! Is it possible to put a "normal" 1x11 or 12 drivetrain in the downhill bike?

[@joshhoward502]

Possible, but not advisable as they tend to be weaker and more maintenance intensive whilst providing little benefits to the climbing due to the seat position and weight

[@arrajewel]

and a dropper

[@RESolberg]

Btw you guys should go out to Moab and ride “the whole enchilada” some day. Then hit Grand junction and do “zipadee doda”.

[@jackyoung5950]

I was convinced you didn't need a dh bike until i got a dh bike, never looked back haha

[@controller2152]

Neil and Blake.... I love all the bike reviews and I love my Ripmo and Fat Bike. I would love to see those DH bikes at Northstar in Truckee for the EWS. It’s nice and Hot and Sandy for those DH’s. Keep Rocking the vids..... 🤘🤘🤘🤘🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️🚴🏼‍♂️

[@rileygray195]

I found a cheap used downhill bike and I use it as an enduro bike, so stop complaining about the drivetrain and pedal Bob and just ride your bike.

[@purplekillerpenguin]

#askgmbn where would you put these 180mm travel bikes like the canyon torque or commencal clash. Would these bridge the gap between the versatility of enduro bikes and tankyness of downhill bikes?

[@exactpeak5995]

Slopestyle?

[@JK-xp7pg]

@@exactpeak5995 As far as I know, slopestyle bikes have short travel and small frames

[@Mr.ZiggedWhenHeShouldaZagged]

Free ride bikes are lighter DH bikes, both FR and DH have suspension designs that avoid pedal kickback on big hits which results in more pedal bob so they both suck at pedaling. Cant just look at amount of travel for shitty pedalling, there’s so much to kinematics that you can have a 120mm travel bike that pedals like poo, but that would be a Walmart bike.

[@exactpeak5995]

@@JK-xp7pg sorry, I confused freeride with slopestyle.

[@peytonbrezski]

Downhill bikes are a bit more stable and confidence inspiring for jumps, but I prefer enduro bikes for tech trails.

[@chrisgarty]

“Welcome back you beautiful people!” 👍

[@mispace8755]

I love your videos even if I understand nothing since I'm french, it's a pleasure to watch them

[@haustierone]

lol

[@harry0296]

How have you written this this if you can't even understand them 😑

[@mispace8755]

@@harry0296 google translate u know ?

[@knott4me561]

Ironically Harry his English spelling is better than yours :) . P.s Google translated

[@normadicn5700]

Wish I knew French and could translate into French.

[@mikieson]

DH will always win when going....DH lol...Enduro will win when riding normal trails and mixing in some light DH and some GNAR..

[@zacjohnson452]

mikieson lucky ducks, I use a “short travel” 29er full squish with a completely seized up rear shock, and 60mm of travel in the front, and it feels plush to me. But that’s what happens when you only have $200 to spend on a bike 🤷‍♂️

[@snakebiteparadise5504]

you should see those enduro bikes winning dh races

[@charliesrandomthings5457]

"They have less travel and can be more fatigueing" Bro i rode my first park on a 1999 santa Cruz super light 1.

[@charlieb9903]

Nukeproof are great I’ve got a mega used to have a scout and the dissent looks peng I guess they don’t do xc but who cared bout that no fun in hills

[@aneudyfernandez681]

I like the downhill bike but i can't afford it lol.

[@unknown-6664]

I love trial bike cause my first favorite bike was enduro and second was cross country(xc) and now its trial i change it by the status!!!

[@gergoolle5773]

Enduro would be the clear choice to me, but Iam an XC guy...so I dont count

[@JhoDiariestv6418]

Watching from phillipines🤩

[@edgarsdaily1331]

Xc

[@kbeightyseven1783]

Balls to this, Hardtail for life!

[@m00nchildblues]

With limited income, my primary bike is my Ibis HD4 enduro. Secondary bike to come will be an alum grab dash 29er aggressive xc hardtail w 130 travel.

[@jaimieboy999]

Yo big up the ibis crew ✌️✌️

[@dannybravo6342]

both bikes are pretty sick

[@leduch]

as long as you have a good day it doesn t matter what bike you ve got...!.and why have 1 bike? come to les houches bikepark with any bike njoybikelife

[@zacjohnson452]

le duch I know right? Why not have a full squish short travel 29er, a bmx, a mini full squish, a mini bmx, and a scooter!

[@demonhays8460]

Downhill all the way bigger jumps faster through the rocks. Newbies and those who just brought a new expensive trail bike will disagree but em. And I have a downhill, two trail bikes 26 & 27.5, dirt jumps bmx and even a roadbike.

[@festus910]

Good for you, trust fund baby.

[@demonhays8460]

@@festus910 no trust fund here just hard work and i love bikes, bitch.

[@bencorcoran7563]

Thinking of getting a vitus dominer 2019 version Thoughts on it? Or should I get an Enduro? I don't do pedal ups tho mainly just uplifts

[@civilstructural]

My apologies for my comment, probably the most stupid video you guys did, cant compare different bikes like comparing apples to oranges! They are totally different bikes and whats the point, if a rider has one bike, enduro is ok, if they money then buy a DH bike.

[@EvidenceofaFabulousLife]

Tomi Misser just won the Master 40 UCI World Cup downhill and XCO on an enduro! twitter.com/tomimisser/status/1165365159122087937?s=21

[@rahadibasuki]

Hallo Niels GMBN, we all watching your vlogs in Indonesia, nice tutorial for me..

[@Drip.monkey.]

hey i really wanna start mtb but i dont know what bike i should get i have a park close to me but you need to climb but its jumps and stuff so what should i pick my budget is around 5000 usd im 13 and yeah i like jumps and a little bit tech edit: i dont like xc its more like trail dh and enduro

[@craigj2483]

I still love taking the 26" dh bike out still fun to blast on trails.. Enduro i use more 180mm up front 165mm on the rear. Takes the hits well. Lightweight easier to peddle on inclines. Depends more on how i'm feeling when i go for a ride which 1 i take with me

[@bakirmutapcic]

which is better for freeride in city?

[@casualsportshighlights]

personally, I love downhill bikes better, but that's just my preferred bike as I do engage in some downhill racing so... yeah. There are lots of opinions out there and it really does depend a lot on the trails you ride, but for me, downhill all the way.

[@visionmusic1500]

What should I for my first expensive bike for riding armature trails, downhill or trail?

[@wittwer427]

This is really fun to watch the week after coming back from whistler. Rode my enduro and only on trails like schlayer did I really wish I was on a dh. Got pretty beat up by the brake bumps tho.

[@nvire5202]

Enduro is better and more useful, dh bike is only good at big jumps or plowing through a tech section fast on a downhill, enduro bike can do all

[@ratcamaro]

DH bike hands down at a bike park!

[@danielsaloka5739]

Depending on the build an enduro can be everything. 170mm front fork even with a 150 rear and a good set of brakes can handle a bike park no problem!

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

DH VS ENDURO WHICH ONE IS BETTER!??!?! BETTER FOR WHAT ?!

[@kaydenkubicek6767]

Enduro all the way

[@abdullahmualif4202]

i can't see the difference sorry im new to bicycle

[@yannispop6575]

Both

[@mnbv5555cxz]

@Neil "Which bike is better when you're hungover?" NICE!! important advice. great work

[@seven9766]

To answer that question once and for all: A long travel trail bike with lockout, 27,5 Maybe a 2017 Spectral... Change my mind.

[@powernetwork]

Thx, new to MTB, and I'm building a starter bike to do it all, Thinking 10 speed 3x gearing with larger chainrings. And the longest travel with lock out. Maybe stay with 27.5 wheels. Wondering if anything like this is out there.

[@margueosakue6159]

Everything functions properly kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Nothing was damaged in the box aside from a decal on the fork. The decal was missing a piece of a corner but I ended up peeling them off anyways. Assembly is easy BUT make sure you tune up the derailleurs. Both the front and rear need adjusting. I'd advise going to a bike shop but I opted out and put in 10+ hours with the help of KZbin. Ended up fraying a shifter cable but all in all I learned from the experience. The Brakes work well but the front caliper needs adjusting or at least mine did because the rotor was rubbing against the pads. Make sure you swap out the seat, grips, and pedals. For the short run you'll be fine though. I've read that this bike isn't built yet for hard trails but I just need it for the city. PA has some of the worst roads and being in a mountain this was a great choice. Worth the investment!

[@willianbarcki4110]

Tem alguém do Brasil em 2020?

[@TheJustina102085]

I’m sorta torn on what to do, I’ve been riding lightweight XC bikes most of my life with some trail bikes more recently like stumpjumpers at both local trails and downhill at mountains… I’m older now, 39 years old, so with age and the less amount of riding. I don’t do any crazy drops or look for air like I use too. My other concern is the fact I’ve never been on a bike with such aggressive angles though in my prime I was an advanced rider who liked dirt jumpers and hardtail XC bikes for some park fun. I took hardtails and trail bikes downhill often. I recently wanted to hit my local downhill mountains though so not sure what is best option. I’m looking for a bike that requires more planted feel and less need for input like with a light trail bike downhill. But I’m also not going to be looking for crazy air etc. so the question is, what would be best for strait up downhill without the crazy drops. Is a downhill bike even necessary if I’m not looking to hit some kick outs etc? What bike navigates downhill best at moderate speed on Blacks or Blue/black.. like is a downhill even needed for that? Again, with my shoulder injury and age, I want less force on joints and my stump jumper just requires to much input downhill and beats me up when hitting some decent speed..

[@princealbaniel2529]

i remember Blake and Scott did this kind of comparison video in the past.🤔🤔🤔

[@cartermacrenaris705]

Obviously dh bike will be better at a dh park especially as gnarly as whistler. But an enduro will follow pretty close in performance but a dh bike is more fun

[@michalpawlak3344]

Blake's bike looks so big in comparison with him. Hilarious XD

[@patrykpatryyk8083]

Guys thanks for new video :)

[@virendra_mali]

Downhill bikes are tanks but enduro bikes are tropie trucks

[@hercules9003]

Hey guys, I'm a fan from the Philippines, I just want to ask where can I purchase GMBN cycling shirt.

[@gopro_vlogs]

finally neil gets/rides a dh bike

[@bobkin611]

"Enduro bikes have shorter travel so they're less forgiving and you'll be tired faster" Me: *Cries in hardtail (Giant Talon 2/29er w/100mil travel) hitting 15ft jumps, and double black diamond trails*

[@w3stgeorge117]

I’m wanting to start getting into EWS what’s the best way to watch it?

[@bozmar1]

I prefer skiing in the winter and down hill in the sommer … I don t like pedaling uphill … for this I like my enduro motorcycle

[@kirstenoliver6953]

Thanks for the vid, great help! Just off to les gets and morzine.

[@davidkeane2399]

Trails out here are just top right now. We've had a little bit of rain, and then it's dried nicely. Bit of luck there'll be showers on Thursday, then bright sunshine this weekend. Send it!

[@kirstenoliver6953]

It’s nice out here today!

[@bimmer3twenty5]

*Thumbs up* everytime Blake says "you beautiful people"

[@aigamy3841]

It’s easy.... if you are doing drops that are around 6 feet and don’t like to pedal get a DH bike if not get an enduro.

[@antrace92]

Guys if you can afford 2 bikes just buy a dh mtb. Your laps in the park can last longer, it's more forgiving, faster and confidence inspiring. A proper build will make the dh bike indestructible at everything the bike park throws against

[@haidaimad472]

I always dream of having a bike like this but I don't have money. Is there someone who can help me please

[@lawrence4899]

welcom back yo beautifo pepoo!

[@TJ-po9ol]

I bought an enduro bike even though I ride shuttles, because I still want to be able to do trails outside of a resort.

[@donnaz770]

My only issue with enduro is you can’t get away with as much as you can with a downhill

[@zyoungson215]

Enduro bikes are so good nowdays its not even funny, vs what we had 15-20yrs ago

[@AndreiDragonulBGS]

what about a freeride bike? 180mm in the front 190 in the back and it has 10 speed, and its not that heavy

[@Cburns26]

R u talking about the Scott voltage because I used to have one and it was great

[@AndreiDragonulBGS]

@@Cburns26 yeah but one of my friends have a rando swoop 190, and has the same specs like 180mm fork 190 shock but its from 2014 and has obly 26 inch wheels.

[@andrewince8824]

How far and how many hills? If your trails ain't too far then DH, elsewise enduro

[@samwilcock2853]

Downhill looks like the most fun a human can have. I want to try it but it scares the shit out of me!

[@layton_liddell353]

I’ve made a review on my bike who would like to check it out or give me some advice for my next video

[@bouncyboi9488]

One of those downhill Forks has more Travel than all of my bikes travel combine

[@CHOPERUS23]

Cube Stereo 170 TM problem solved 👍🏻🙂

[@bodhigilroy]

Nice to see Neil getting some big air!

[@tomastalaj3011]

what if u just put dh fork on enduro bike?that would be like great combination

[@harel586]

Is it possible to ride downhill track with enduro bikes?

[@_systemd]

You can hardtail it ffs

[@kyleslater5245]

It’s a lot of work with the hard tail though. Yes it’s possible. It’s just wears you out faster. But... it’s a lot cheaper to own just one bike.

[@harel586]

No hard tail, full ex

[@_systemd]

@@harel586 u Can hardtail them, trail bike them, enduro them. Your question is ridiculous. Unless you flying down the hardest tracks at 40kph average landing 20m jumps and 3m drops trying to cut 1s of your time, you don't need a fkin DH bike useless shit good only for a cable car.hope that answers your question

[@guevaramorkel6286]

Enduro bike+duel crown forks

[@antoanangelov5672]

Give this man a medal

[@1madmaxx80]

What ever costs more. Obviously. Everybody knows that you need to spend at least $5k to get on a trail and have fun. If you want to be a good rider you need to spend at least $8k. $10k + up will make you ride just as good as the pro's. Your skill/fun is directly proportional to the amount of $ you spend.

[@maximilianoquinones8236]

Nah

[@BulbManLUV1374]

At this point they should just put eagal drive trains on down hill there pretty simlar

[@floriangrob7879]

But i think the people what ride Downhill bike have also a Enduro??

[@heleezy]

Enduro can do anything, buy a dh if you end up riding park more with your enduro

[@nvire5202]

Downhill is good at riding on rough trails quick, enduro sort of made for lasting long long those long descents

[@Max-rs7cx]

In my Opinion an Enduro with 180 mm Travel, like the Canyon Torque, is the best for Bikeparks. More forgiving than a Classic 160mm Bike, but easier to throw around than a Downhillbike. Downhillbikes only make sense if you are a really good Rider able to ride high speeds, otherwise they are a little bit to sluggish, especially with these long and slack geometries of modern Enduro Bikes.