DPO or Cs-L?

We get asked this question all the time here at Signal Sounds so we decided to make a little video showing off some of the features and sounds of these modules.
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[@davidknight754]

I have both of these in my system. Nice to not have to choose. Both extremely deep.

[@precarious333music]

To my eyes Cs-L kills every other complex oscillator out there. Most designs favor one of the pair as the carrier usually paired with a wavefolder, and the other as modulator with limited waveform outputs. Cs-L has wavefolding for each VCO as well as the full range of waveforms and both internal/external sync for both. Additionally it includes the AM section and unique wave shapes. These features make Cs-L the ultimate complex VCO. I love mine.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Frap Tools Brenso and Verbos Complex Oscillator are great options as well.

[@precarious333music]

@@GuitarsAndSynths Cs-L is still the only complex oscillator I feel the need to own. Just so convenient having every possibility at my fingertips. And now I'm eying Instruō Saïch! Holy hell, you should check that beast out.

[@sdskyle]

@@precarious333music I like the Cs_L feature set, myself. And the design. DPO has that vactrol magic, but I really like that the CS_L has more waveform outs, especially the sub with the switchable octave. I got the Saïch first and it is an absolute beast. It doesn’t really suit my system all the time, but I am still finding a hard time getting rid of it. Lol. It just sounds so huge. Takes distortion really well. It can really take over a mix, though.

[@rockstar-technology]

You might get better results listening with your ears instead of your eyes

[@precarious333music]

@@rockstar-technology 💩

[@fosferus]

i've been considering dpo years, looking at other complex oscillators to see what else is out there.. but it just has something to the sound that none others can't match. csl is gorgeous, but it sounds thinner next to the dpo - csl is maybe a bit more clinical? there's some sloppy magic in the MN module that i can't get over. thanks for the vid!

[@p.c513]

I'm new to the modular world and maybe you can clarify me a bit :) I understand that you prefer DPO to Complex Oscillator of Verbos. What is the reason? Both oscillators are prepared and designed for different things? what are the main differences between them? Thanks a lot!

[@fosferus]

@@p.c513 they're both capable of a wide range of sounds, but i my ears tell me the dpo's wavefolder is what they prefer :) all comes down to taste

[@TerekkiTerekki]

CS-L sounds thinner

[@grimmy49]

not enough view on this! thanks for the great video

[@radpix]

Having both I learned and realized deeply more to dive in ! Thanx a lot

[@wizzyforeverr]

which do you like better?

[@noisynois1670]

@@wizzyforeverr the two

[@nathanbell6962]

Really great video, subscribed! You should have a lot more views.

[@rhampton1914]

i just bought the CS-L...I was sold on the sound Design..

[@ADHDev1234]

But Cs-L CV-Wavefold isn't exactly the same as DPO Strike? There's some vactrol behind.

[@triplebacon1]

Insanely beautiful!!!

[@jonridley]

I’ve had them both but slightly prefer the DPO , it’s very much down to taste imho😊

[@blockchainbullies7324]

You rock very helpful video please do a video on the instruo lubadh and the arbahr next 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@1vootman]

The wavefolder on the DPO is the business though...

[@TerekkiTerekki]

Good comparison, more vids please

[@borisborisov500]

Yeah... I decided Both was the way to go 😂😂

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Great review, subbed! I still find it amazing that in a 5k modular system, Make Noise only choose a single complex oscillator for us in the DPO. One sound source is not enough!

[@sinetist1735]

Shared system has multiple sound sources. Both sides of maths can output audio rate LFO and can be used as oscillators, your morphagene is also another sound source. Oh and you can mult stuff

[@maxmaxington5873]

I think it’s better for making music, you can really get a huge amount out of the DPO, especially with all the modulation options in that system. It also doesn’t overcomplicate the system, sometimes limitation grants the best results.

[@christophermarney777]

Still convinced that I made the right choice in dco... ...endorphin furthrrrr generator

[@signal-sounds]

The Furthrrrr is fantastic too! Those frequency controls are mad.

[@akr495]

i've recently upgraded to through-zero vco - its just killer now

[@fripp4999]

@@akr495 Was thinking about that too. Do you find it more usable now?

[@akr495]

@@fripp4999 i would say it is more predictable and stable. the sound is more metallic. but i am thinking about changing it back - have three more "metallic" vcos now

[@No.0.o.0]

why "or"? both is correct.

[@signal-sounds]

Both is always correct :)

[@shedarfondu]

thanks 🙏🏾

[@1vootman]

Are the knobs pretty solid feeling on the Instro?

[@JohnTrasher]

Yes

[@LittleAmbientMachine]

Cs_L to just keep it short...:)

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

agree

[@edmontontech2008]

Couldn't hear much of what you were doing, you kept turning the volume down.

[@mpingo91]

The Make Noise modules are sometimes criticized for the appearance of their panels. But the Cs-L... jeeez... I know it's a great oscillator, realIy. I played with it. But its panel and controls are not only confusing, they're, I'll say it straight - ugly! Take their VCA - vinca for example. It's just a dual VCA, but just try to take it out of the box and patch it. From the beginning it's not clear where's the input and where's the output. In such an obvious and basic module! I don't know if Instruo is aware of this, but it's an effective repellent for a good number of potential clients. I really want a Cs-L. It's a smart girl, with a beautiful soul and good heart, but very ugly.

[@deadredeyes]

That's my major gripe too with Instruo modules.

[@FreeThink1984]

You’re ugly

[@ZenMountain]

@@FreeThink1984 No, no. Instruo is ugly.

[@theplasticlens]

Just goes to show how people's tatses differ. I LOVE the look of Instruo's modules and think their aesthetics are brilliant, not Ugly at all. As far as understanding what they do? No problems for me and in the few cases I had some doubt I just RTFM, simple. On the CS-L the waveform output symbols (Sine/Saw/Square/PWM etc) are all there along with the big knobs for coarse tuning each oscillator with the smaller ones for fine tuning, there was no need to guess. I was making some extremely deep and complex sounds with the CSL straight after I mounted it in the rack, prior to reading the manual to understand the deeper functions. Make Noise modules have some confusing interface choices too, until you get used to them (my first foray into modular/semi-modular was an 0-Coast), I have many more Make Noise modules in my case now, but even being accustomed to their quirky interfaces I still need to RTFM.

[@dinraum]

Just took a first look on the panel of the vinca but can not relate to your description. I would even say that the vinca is very easy to understand labeled with I and O for in and out. So I can not see the problem. And the panel is a little bit special but not really ugly.