DPReview Has Fallen: Will Tony Northrup Buy Them?

[@cameraconspiracies]

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[@RodrigoPolo]

Are you using the Face Refinement effect on resolve? 🤔

[@smashingfables6307]

@@RodrigoPolo What are you saying? You don't like his face? Yeah, face refinement is great. It works well on your mom.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

Do you mind if I DONT subscribe to their channel? Their junk pulled down dpr into a death spiral,,,

[@travelcanada8817]

Thanks for the link to their new channel. ❤

[@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083]

Is that t1.4?……

[@opensourcedev22]

The Tony dig was a necessary comment we didn't know we needed. - this comment is brought to you by Squarespace

[@palmtreewhisperer]

Épico only if you watch these Photo KZbin channels would you understand. I was dying 😂

[@unbroken1010]

Tony dresses like Epstein 😂

[@g10col92]

In between the squares there would be 'micro four thirds is dead' in there somewhere.

[@sethcashman1011]

Hahaha. "Thanks, Squarespace."

[@DescubriendoCanada]

😂😂😂

[@Jay-sr8ge]

Let's hope a porn site doesn't acquire the domain and change the meaning of DPreview indefinitely

[@manilamartin1001]

I just figured DPreview stole the name from a corn site.

[@huexley]

omg xD

[@edwardferry8247]

😂 comment of the month 😂

[@Kapulot]

Wildly hilarious comment 😂😂😂😂

[@JoATTech]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@schtickshift4150]

I can't believe that Adobe is not buying DPReview because every camera shooter Is a potential customer of theirs

[@harj-spp8547]

@@classicaloracle and then €£$20 a month to access it....hmmm

[@Wannes_]

What if Amazon isn't selling ?

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

I can't believe you are not buying DPReview

[@excalibro8365]

@@Wannes_ I'm sure Amazon will gladly let anyone buy their burden off the shoulders. The thing is nobody wants to buy a failing business.

[@Celestialrob]

Sadly, I can believe it. DPReview has a ton of staff and therefore a ton of $$. Shame.

[@mdhazeldine]

There is no currently serious alternative to DPReview sadly. It is a big loss for camera nerds across the world.

[@softnest]

PetaPixel

[@Dhuxul9]

the camera industry is doomed

[@AndiGomez-yu2dx]

how about this... spend less time reading and obsessing over camera specs online and go spend more time outside creating images with whatever camera/s you already have?

[@mdhazeldine]

@@AndiGomez-yu2dx Definitely agree, but most people at some point want to upgrade and compare products. There is a useful reason for these places to exist, as long as you don't obsess over it (which unfortunately too many people do).

[@Visual_Ghoul]

Reddit

[@Hahejo]

Unfortunately my alternative to DPReview is Camera Conspiracies 😂

[@niccollsvideo]

You legit had me laughing many times. Ill take that 7 bucks now.

[@cameraconspiracies]

I need it back though :)

[@MrButtons252]

I absolutely loved the dpreview forums. Honestly, i enjoy photography gear more than the art-- so spending hours arguing with strangers over noise patterns or banding will be greatly missed.

[@charmerci]

wow, what honesty! lol

[@rhythmace1]

😂

[@DescubriendoCanada]

😂

[@AndiGomez-yu2dx]

no wonder dpreview has chosen to close down their website....

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sdhute]

Agree Chris and Jordan need to do their own thing.

[@jasonharris8901]

Brilliant! Laughed out loud at this vid.

[@RichardoBrit]

I agree - Chris & Jordan should go out on their own. They built DPReview TV to over 300k followers from nothing and now have to start again.

[@artistjoh]

Why aren't people protesting the disgusting behavior of Amazon. This is pure *ss holery.

[@minuteman2006]

Ever since Ken Wheeler aka Theoria Apophasis and better known as the "Angry Photographer" stopped doing camera related reviews, I was in search of a replacement source to get my fix. You have now earned a spot on my list of videos to watch to get my daily dose of angriness. Thank you my good sir. These videos are great! Cheers

[@chriswilkinson8062]

If you've seen Rings of Power and other things Amazon have done recently, you'll realize that DPReview was most likely cancelled because they didn't diversify and allow non-binary unicorns with 7 pronouns to join their review team.... and that could be closer to the truth than you might realize.... 🤣

[@NeonShores]

You'd think Chris and Jordan would want to be more independent now after losing 2 channels and are building a channel for a 3rd company. What happens when Petapixel fails? Should take a cue from Kai. Had they built their own channel from the beginning they'd be sitting pretty right now.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

They are c@+p and the kiss of death for any project they are involved with. They should sell sofas or anything else 😞

[@bennyk6705]

Couldn't agree more...seems odd they wouldn't go it alone after this....

[@thissidetowardscreen4553]

I had the same reaction to the news, I though it was a joke or click bait, then it became all to real! DPreview was a place for us who enjoy buying older gear and want a quick way to see how the camera preforms. Sad to see it go! Though I wonder if this will just quench the need to buy more and just use what I have. So easily we get distracted by the gear, now it is time to use it...and not add to it. Sad days, I agree. Hopefully something good comes out of it!

[@unbroken1010]

Old threads on old gear was a treasure trove for information and not wasting money . I guess we just send more to con man zelinsky now

[@davidhilton8680]

​@@unbroken1010 Glad you see the fraudster in Zelinski too.

[@patricasmyth4359]

Yup. Good idea.

[@allenharrison7902]

It is a sad day for the photography community as a whole, DPreview could be counted on for an honest appraisal of gear. It just shows where Amazon's loyalty lays

[@excalibro8365]

In profit? Yeah, they're doing business not charity. There's no point in keeping a business that loses money.

[@jbird7782]

Amazon doesn't want something that could potentially criticize some of the shit products they sell. Surprised they kept it this long

[@remektekmedia6641]

This is what I just sent to B&H: Guys! What an opportunity! Buy DPReview immediately - so long as you get to continue with all their IP and contents. I am serious, what an opportunity!!! 'nuf said. Paul Szilard

[@Raist3db]

The title alone made me laugh out loud. Evil evil evil delicious evil ;-)

[@AnikiF]

Chris and Jordan will continue their excellent job at PetaPixel. Let’s support them as usual.

[@WMedl]

Their videos have been nice but not really comparable to the knowledgebase and discussion forum of the DPReview site!

[@user-yk1ie5ep1i]

They suck they shoot random charts/go for walks and call it a review. Who care where they end up.

[@artistjoh]

No one doubts that they will do great work as time goes on. What we don't like is how Amazon is intending to delete all the past reviews and forums, like it never existed.

[@franksemi_modular]

@CameraConspiracies I honestly thought DPReview have been outdated for years. By the time cameras are on DPReview you have already seen 20 pre-reviews and reviews on KZbin and know the important specs by heart. Seriously, I don't see the need for DPReview and I'm guessing that they lost a lot of visitors over the years to KZbin content creators. So in a way it's your own fault😅 - Never even heard about Peta Pixel before but just from what I can see it's never a site I will visit again😅

[@donprice8925]

I think that DPREVIEW deserves, no needs, the TONEH treatment.

[@ChocoLater1]

This channel sounds like a new alternative to DPReview. Speaking about cameras ✅ Camera news ✅ Reviewing lenses and their toneh ✅ Reviewing specs ✅ Honesty ✅✅✅✅✅✅

[@phils3736]

you have been my only source of information for 4 years, and since then I have diabetes. I don't know if it's related.

[@krazywabbit]

when I heard this news, I pitched a tent outside of the Camera Conspiracies HQ to await this video. I'll leave now.

[@smashingfables6307]

We all pitch tents when Camera Conspiracies comes on

[@joemills4603]

I suppose we can assume one of the main appeals of DPreview was the consistency of their reviews and features. It was certainly a main factor for me. That review style is rarely copied on a large scale because DPreview already do it so well. With no more DPreview, I guess it's possible that someone will adopt their style on a larger scale. OTOH, I stopped using DPreview for my regular camera news some time ago... mainly because most cameras are so good that reviews rarely pick up the subtle differences that might be important to me. It's actually that reason that I started following Camera Conspiracies - I enjoy different perspectives. I was also addictively studying all the reviews, and that just fed my GAS.

[@unbroken1010]

Old threads on old photo gear were Great

[@unbroken1010]

They could at least leave it up as a archive . Ads were cover that.

[@remektekmedia6641]

Love your sense of humour. I think B&H Photo should buy DPReview! I am serious.

[@excalibro8365]

The funniest thing about all of this is some people feel betrayed and swear to never buy camera gear from amazon again. Like what does that even do? Only camera gear? Also, THIS is what made them stop buying Amazon? Not their horrible treatment of workers and other unethical things they do? Let's not even talk about how many unethical process camera batteries must go through before they make it into our cameras.

[@daesong1378]

I was watching Tony’s video of Dpreview closing down, but i was distracted by the background Toneh the whole time, we all know who’s fault that is.

[@tanjimbashar]

This is horrible. Retiring unprofitable business is one thing. To close down a platform having so much value to people is unethical, especially for financial reasons only. It better be that they tried to find some for it and failed, otherwise this is just the wrong way to go.

[@planetfun85]

Capitalism

[@AndiGomez-yu2dx]

​@@planetfun85😂

[@unbroken1010]

Here comes Chris , Jordon , Kai and Robin Wong. The photo wrasslin faction you always wanted

[@RScottNH]

You are the alternative to DP Review! You rock!

[@evinvestfuture7440]

LMFAO Amazon affiliate links made me laugh. Thank you sir. It's a sad day.

[@MyLifeFrAiurGaming]

lol love the square space joke

[@stevef4010]

Amazon did the same thing to IMBD movie forums. Luckily someone ported the old discussions over to a new domain (movie chat). IT was unique in that thread conversations would take place over 10-12 years, because movies remain relevant ( Old movies even more relevant with the crap movies today). It's not as active by a longshot as before, but at least it's been preserved.. Hopefully someone can do the same to DPreview.

[@JeffreyMcPheeters]

Funniest ever! I’m just glad I can still go to Camera Conspiracies for the content I want. )maybe not what I need but it’s what I WANT)

[@szain2]

- Perhaps Amazon attempted to sell it, but at a price that interested buyers could not afford. Maybe the DPReview team has future plans that can fill the DPReview's space. Chris and Jordan will do it in the case of KZbin. Let's hope the same for the website as well. - My second favorite website is CineD, but they only cover video.

[@fredcleanstone5391]

Nah, they just want to delete the forum data. Globalist conspiracy.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

It is sad indeed. Rare cameras like the Foveon sensor ones had developed a respectable database of information thanks to the site and the users. Oh well...

[@unbroken1010]

Helped be the right one based on those threads

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

@Phillip Banes True:)

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

@Phillip Banes I can imagine how you feel. Even though I'm typing this on my phone, I hate the device. And I would love to go anywhere with my camera and not be noticed but that's hard these days with societies becoming over sensitive to everything. The only real places left now are wildlife and nature. I don't have a need to show my work to the world, I would rather enjoy the fruits of my efforts and thank God for the beautiful blessings of the natural world and the ability to capture a memory. Maybe after I'm gone, it might help the future generations see the beauty of this world amidst the increasing digitization of everything. I feel AI, etc will make people value the real world even more and for that us photographers and filmmakers should never give up. Not to make them immerse into video and photo but to go outside and see the real world. We can already see how people are longing for real connection these days and real experiences. 10 years from now, we will appreciate the non connected world much more than they do now.

[@DDVlogAR]

B&H should buy it

[@olafschermann1592]

+1 for Tony‘s new domain name 🤣

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Chris and Jordan will be doing their thing on the PetaPixel KZbin channel now. Sounds good to me. I'm already subscribed. Who cares what the channel name is. It will still be Chris and Jordan doing what they do best.

[@unbroken1010]

Will they try to impregnate each other with pixels now? Oh snap

[@s1opp]

I googled DP Review, there wasn't much camera related stuff, but I bookmarked it anyway

[@sotocine99]

You are so cinematic today, fantastic!

[@mobbaddictchannel]

Yes I was gonna say, is that how 70mm looks like?

[@LeighAndRaymond]

I'm laughing so hard I'm crying. Oh those dirty, dirty Amazon Affiliate links...

[@ungavaproductions]

So good and funny ! I love what you do. Nobody make this like you ! Thanks to make me laught

[@thegrumpytog]

hahahahaha that new dp review site address is perfect!

[@audioupgrades]

It's a big shame. DP Review have been consistent in their testing, which makes it easy to compare cameras. Still, I wish to point out that I have never bought anything from Amazon, nor will I.

[@RichardBO9]

Surprised you didn't mention that Pentax out lived DP Review. 🤯

[@LaneMaine]

DP Review's objective content was incredibly valuable. That's a real loss. On the other hand, half of the comments posted by the "community" in the forums were critical, argumentative, and scornful. I hope that comments from those ill-tempered armchair photography experts in the DP Review forums don't begin to infect your comment sections.

[@patrickmckeag3215]

You got that right. The forums were brutal. Otherwise, it was the go-to website for camera and lens reviews. It will be missed by many people including me.

[@POVwithRC]

I'm not going to lament the loss of the comments section. They can go have fun on twitter.

[@philmartin5689]

and that's just the comments from the moderators.

[@philmartin5689]

Writing f2.8 instead of f/2.8, proved I didn't understand aperture.

[@sagetheowlfatfeathery2083]

@@philmartin5689 what is this “f” of which you speak….?

[@Master-Grammar]

Ya a little surprised that Chris and Jordan didn't start their own channel. They have the following; granted, it's not just shooting a video and editing, I'm sure there is a lot that goes on in the background and both of them are full time dads as well, perhaps it was a decision of "how much more energy does one want to pump into this?"

[@Matticulous-Media]

I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!! SOMEONE JUST BUY THE DAMN THING!!!!!!!!! SAVE DPREVIEW!!!!

[@80-80.]

Depressing. The only website i still visit, apart from KZbin.

[@toke7560]

I have been on it from day 2. Hope i don't suffer withdrawal symptoms

[@stewartmacy4859]

Working on a documentary in the USA. I hand my Canon 90D as a tourist to folks on the street and ask them to take my photo. It has no lens. The young are confused, refuse, hold it upside down or think it is a gun. The old just grin.

[@shirakawanaoya]

I haven't left so hard at one of your videos until today. That opening was golden. 😂

[@ZippyDChimp-mr1tf]

This video made me cry.

[@1bozina]

The 1st minute of this video has been the most entertaining 60 seconds of video I've seen on KZbin all year... Cheers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Excuse me now while I go back to the site known as Flickr

[@dealman3312]

I was just thinking about this the other day then your video showed up 😱

[@victorf5404]

I don‘t think it was just coincidence that Capture One got mentioned by mistake … they‘re currently #2 in the photography world‘s „doing their utmost to let down a loyal audience“ sweepstakes.

[@NickDelDuca]

What? Capture One is amazing

[@MyNameIsPetch]

@@NickDelDuca "preorder this mystery update now and get 30% off (even though we just nearly doubled the cost)!" And then the update is 2 minor features.

[@NickDelDuca]

@@MyNameIsPetch Lol the last features that got added to Capture One are huge timesavers for working professional photographers.

[@MyNameIsPetch]

@@NickDelDuca Sorry, I stopped paying attention after I was asked to spend nearly double (even with the 'early bird' discount) what I originally paid for a permanent license the previous year simply upgrade to the next version (without being told the features I was paying for) and then the features were eventually revealed to be a dehaze slider and a minor QOL changes. If I had actually gone along and blindly spent all that money on the upgrade I would have felt completely ripped off. Instead my decision to avoid purchasing anything else from them has been vindicated Any defence of their recent businesses practices can only be summed up as buyer's remorse in denial

[@THEAVERAGEGUY1983]

I got a little bit of help from there for mt Sony Alpha A7IV set up. But thats it. I never went back to it but that does suck though. Amazon went very corporate on that. Anything that doesnt make a company money, they axe.

[@maukkas]

There was a meeting!

[@robari2410]

YOU are fricking hilarious dude!! Keep them coming.

[@cornellouis]

I agree I would've preferred to see them just strike out on their own, but maybe they don't want to take on the risk / extra effort and spend time w/ family instead.

[@kierenkd]

They can't - amazon is shutting it down. It is not for sale not can be continued by anyone

[@cornellouis]

@@kierenkd DPReview shutting down does not mean that they can't start their own brand.

[@kierenkd]

@@cornellouis starting something new is different. Amazon own all the IP and content so it can't continue.

[@ghilashamaili2733]

The raFAIL ART got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JimiCanRead]

I hate Amazon

[@sniperv]

I agreee, Someone should buy DPR and Chris/Jordan should just have their own channel and brand.

[@reedeema]

I know some DP Sites but they never Show Kameras there 🤨

[@CianMcsweeney]

I guess Chris and Jordan want the security of a reliable wage since I'm pretty sure they have kids, starting their own channel would be a massive amount of pressure to get up and running

[@orphanuprising]

Yeah petapixel is likely paying them to get the channel rolling. And hopefully they'll make even more once the grow the petapixel channel

[@NeonShores]

They've basically built 2 channels already. What happens if Peta pixel fails? You'd think after them losing 2 channels they'd be more forward thinking about this.

[@CianMcsweeney]

@@NeonShores It really isn't that easy to run your own business, all of a sudden not only are you producing content but you now have to manage: getting gear in for review, partnerships and sponsorships, accounting, taxes, paying for trips to product launches. It's just a lot of overhead that distracts from what they actually want to do which is to just work on their show

[@smashingfables6307]

@@CianMcsweeney Could you picture Kasey doing all of that? Nah

[@NeonShores]

@@CianMcsweeney nothing worth doing is easy. Also do you think Chris and Jordan did nothing but shoot videos? I'm sure they covered most of the responsibility of managing and running the channel and used DPReview as a resource for trips and gear. So yeah not easy per se, but I'm sure they're more than capable and they could protect themselves in the future against yet another restart. Just my opinion of course, I just don't want to see them get burned out from the stress of constant rebuilding.

[@davidhilton8680]

Humanity is going to evolve itself out of existence...

[@MarchalisVan]

Sad fact, Cameras these days are about as good as anyone could need. It's like the computer industry in general, for consumers watching 4K video exists, it's easily done, and it's way more than anyone needs. 4K gaming exists and it's not making things better going beyond todays top settings unless your the power company. It's almost to a point where average consumers will never need to upgrade, some may already be there... you know, until like windows 12 or something, and they decide your hardware is obsolete for no reason lol.

[@rkeantube]

i use dp every time i buy a camera or camera related item , this is a bummer.

[@aengusmacnaughton1375]

"Rafail Art" -- my Uncle in Bolivia! He makes at least 35 cents per year from his amazing art!

[@aengusmacnaughton1375]

Gregly! My nephew! Awesome, smart guy!!!!

[@TransoceanicOutreach]

Tony should buy it and rename it TonehReview. Each lens gets a Toneh rating percentage.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

It's a damn shame. Amazon isn't even going to archive DPReview long term. And what of the channel? Is that content going away forever? Jordan said on OrdinaryFilmmaker's channel that even he doesn't know. I'm pissed.

[@unbroken1010]

A few ads could pay for the archive at a bare minimum. Bet you buy Amazon regardless

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

@@unbroken1010 I didn't say otherwise. But I feel dirty about it

[@paulhills1967]

The intro had me laughing out loud

[@jillkltr]

Thanks for the laugh(s). I am upset about the demise of DEP and equally as shocked that no one has purchased them, assuming that Amazon is offering this option. Ugh.

[@ActionXander]

Your time has finally come, Case. YOU are our last hope 🤲🏼 no pressure

[@umue11]

Amazon has become a monster.

[@TheWay-up777]

Anti trust laws monopoly Amazon is too big.

[@NatalieZii]

One of the first things I thought when I heard it was closing was that oh now camera conspiracies will have something to talk about. He was bored. xP But really it’s very messed up. There’s so much knowledge and experience there that will be erased. Sure, photographers in general tend to have a snob factor that makes them seem born for LA but they are also helpful at times. If you ask a question you’ll get 4 “it’s not the camera, it’s the glass”, 3 “it’s not the camera, it’s the person”, 2 “photography is so complex I need all the details of your life to answer this basic question”, and a couple kind people who will actually invaluably share their technical experience. If Amazon could just put a filter, it would be much less to store.

[@tee_m]

First Blockbuster, now this? The world is burning.

[@gtijason7853]

Blockbuster is returning, website is up and everything Says they are currently rewinding the movies , should be ready by 3rd quarter ... of 2025

[@MajorMotions]

I been said why don’t they start their own KZbin channel. With YT being so profitable it makes the most sense. I just don’t understand it. Smh

[@nonamenerds8157]

I laughed harder about that than I should... and now I really crave a latte vanilla squirrel milk frappucino... (EDIT:) almost forgot about the hate... I slightly dislike the green plant in the frame at 4:47

[@champagnesumo]

Vanilla squirrel milk is nuts

[@artistjoh]

no, squirrel nut milk is a different thing. You find it just to the side of the vanilla squirrel milk.

[@gurugamer8632]

Will all the videos on dpreview KZbin channel be removed ?

[@earlfenwick]

I had to check the calendar too. Not April 😢

[@kenbarnesfilms8108]

F++K, now I forgot why I went to KZbin in the first place. Too funny compadre!

[@dcwaku]

Sadly DP Review was never the same after Phil Askey sold it to Amazon and left. It really died then.

[@tubaraomartelo7838]

photographers and video photographers are waking up to a new reality announced a long time ago...

[@Cincy_Kid]

TONEH to the rescue

[@villagranvicent]

Agree. I wonder why C&J didn't go solo this time. 🤔🤔

[@joaomarveloso1049]

Oh man I'm going to miss the side by side image comparison customizable galleries

[@muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309]

AMEN TO THAT!

[@chrissinclair4442]

On DP Review, in economic terms: Sounds like a corporation destroying your utility to increase their profits. At minimum it isn't as profitable to have good equipment reviews. You lose money if spending goes to a product that you make less margin on. Even if this only works in the long run, it will make it harder to find rock solid equipment at a good price. Also they lose money if you find an older product that is better then a newer product. Especially if the older product has been discontinued. There are probably all sorts of game theory going into it for all corporations.

[@davidcunningham7330]

LoL - Oh, man, this was SO funny! I loved when you were scroll through PP and you talked about soft porn with the model laying on a rug! Great stuff.

[@redrocklead]

This has happened to many early internet sites. Sold out, to be closed by shifty management.

[@mystscot9814]

The Internet Archive has the DPReview website available to all, this will be stored long after the official website goes offline.

[@jonathangood8167]

Private forum, private servers, make it a subscription if need be. Pisses me off that big business scraps something like this so important and widely used to so many, for what? Like it costs Amazon anything to run some servers, ads (which they benefit from) and a domain?! Horrible. We will win!!!🤛🏼

[@CanaryFilmPro]

Finally, you learn to make your video to look better congratulation

[@smashingfables6307]

You really have to have very small hands to milk a squirrel.

[@bh9262]

Hilarious! When you go on tour, I want to be first to know. I'm getting front row seats! LOL,