Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC DN Contemporary Review

[@tas_roberts]

Now finally some universal weight measurements that could be understood around the globe - drained human heart!

[@WildBikerBill]

The moment when Chris goes Full Vampire on us.

[@sliderBro]

Sorry we don't use the metric system here; I only understand drained crocodile hearts.

[@JavierArellano]

Metric system rules! Archer should know better kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq6dYmrfamjp5I

[@jshanni2066]

Nice to see the resurrection of the Aztec Empires universal weight unit. Excellent work , lads. 👌

[@johndonaldson5126]

The Sigma 18-50 has become my vacation+walk around lens. I'm always pleased at how sharp it is. Of course the size and weight are major factors. I have other lenses with a similar range but they sit in the drawer as this little lens gets to go out and play.

[@waddoo1234]

Have you used an 18-135mm at all? Trying to cross comapre

[@greggzupcsics5143]

@@waddoo1234 I'm wondering about this too... I have the 18-135 and appreciate its flexibility & compactness. The obvious tradeoff is light gathering & less ease of defocusing background than an f2.8 lens would have. I'd be interested in hearing for folks with practical experience using both of these 18-xxxmm lenses also.

[@sigmaphoto]

Thank you for taking a thoughtful look at the new lens, fellas, and Happy Thanksgiving!

[@easlern]

This has turned into my favorite lens, I use it when I’m not sure what I’m going to be capturing because it’s pretty much ready for anything. The only lens I use more is a pancake because despite the review’s emphasis on how compact/light this guy is, it seems big and hefty to me.

[@Curtis-Randall]

Well this firmly plants me in the aps-c world. I already preordered and I’m looking forward to taking this for a spin

[@lincolnfields3647]

How do you like it?

[@shadow7037932]

Oh man, this is great! I've been using the old Sigma 17-50 f2.8 adapted to E Mount when I need a fast standard zoom but this thing is huge and heavy/cumbersome. This new lens is a perfect match for my a6300.

[@fagulhaLeiria]

Comprei hoje! Espero ficar satisfeito.

[@edc5338]

I just bought this lens and it is awesome. Small, lightweight and sharp! A game changer! The kit 16-50 is DOA!

[@edc5338]

@Hector Enjoy!

[@AndreiDimaReviews]

I want this for Fujifilm!

[@SatanSupimpa]

Sigma should release a mirrorless version of the 18-35mm and 50-100mm f1.8.

[@limaargenton]

that's it! with aperture ring, c'mon, they gotta do this.

[@VilkanVisions]

I got ef version with mc11 adapter and it's my favourite lens :D

[@networm64]

I know while everyone is asking for that lens when it comes out all will be pissed! Why? Easy! That lens won't be small and light enough to be balanced good on an apsc body! You seeking for bokeh? Why dnt you try fullframe? I bet a budget ff body paired with sigma's own 28-70 f2.8 will cost you less both in price and weight than that imaginary 1.8 apsc lens in combination with an apsc body. If sigma makes a light weight 14-24 2.8 and a 50-150 2.8 crop lens then I'm all in!

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@@networm64 oh please. don't be so dramatic. and full of it...

[@limaargenton]

@@networm64 i already use that lens with an adapter. I dont like ff, prefer aps-c. Just would prefer a native alternative. And c'mon, the cameras have almost the same size.

[@absaxoclar]

I remember the old 17-50 we had on dslr, glad to hear its a proper improvement. While the 17-50 had stabilization the bokeh was horrendously onion ringed and the autofocus was very jumpy and inconsistent in video on my 80d. Worked fine for viewfinder shooting but that phase detect and it did not get along

[@alanerpington5698]

Good option, but I'd still prefer the Tamron for the extra reach and stabilization.

[@Jhvxgir]

I've been using a Nikon D7000 + 17-55 2.8f lens for many years, recently I changed to a Sony A6400 with this Sigma lens and I am so delighted with that combo, it's very light, very sharp and very fast focusing, great change.

[@thatcherfreeman]

That's some remarkably well controlled focus breathing

[@ScottJWaldron]

Wow, that focus breathing test! The image quality overall! The price seems reasonable. Hopefully they eventually release this for other mounts like Canon EF-M.

[@teamhazardous201]

I'm with you and I want a telephoto 2.8 zoom version and super wide angle 2.8 zoom

[@ScottJWaldron]

​@mipmipmipmipmip Yes, now that the R50 exists that is pretty clear.

[@ColinRobertson_LLAP]

I know it's a different system, but I'm surprised I haven't seen any comparisons of this lens to the Fuji 18-55... Sure it's aperture varies from 2.8-4, but it does have OIS and fantastic IQ. Loved it when I had one. I think I liked the range of it more than my 24-70 I use on my full frame camera now...

[@soulation]

1 year later, your wish is granted.

[@PetersonBlanc]

great video, I would love to start to see some comparison now versus other zoom lenses; in fact, even though I know this lens to be more of a wide zoom it would be great to see a video against the TAMRON 11-20MM F/2.8. Thanks and keep up the great work.

[@spdcrzy]

I have both! They're not really comparable, IMO, simply because they overlap for all of 2mm.

[@geraldillo]

I prefer a zoom lenses with a macro function in tele mode, like you said; it's a hassle to get close in wide angle mode and if you want to shoot insects they are gone right away.

[@Glaucidius]

You then might try the Sony 70-350: That's reach !

[@Carolyne_games]

I've been pretty convinced that I should stay with my A6600 given the monstrous FF lenses. Also the A6600 arguably handles better for stills. But then Sony came out with the tiny trio (24, 40, 50 G) and I feel so torn again. And then Sigma just released this beautifully tiny 18-50 for APS-C. Now I'm so confused :D

[@JohnDennery]

I just got my first FF zoom after using only primes and boy is it big and heavy! Makes me want to switch back to aps-c for lenses like this. I never fully appreciated how much my enjoyment of cameras is strongly tied to their handling and portability. I hope that Sony will release a beast of a new aps-c camera soon that will have many people switching back.

[@PattyBlogs]

Excellent review, answered all my questions thank you!

[@moonmoon-fc3pu]

I would like to see video sigma 18-50 vs Tamron 17-70

[@pspgoman9934]

I wish they would make an image-stabilized f1.8 version of this lens so we could get a true 24-70 2.8 full-frame equivalent. I find that after about iso 1600 my a6000 just falls apart so it would be great to get that zoom versatility with a wider aperture.

[@EPeltzer]

Wouldn't that be enormous though? I have the Tamron 17-70 and it's just ponderously large at only 2.8. The point of this is that it's so small. On a little body like an A6xxx this looks like a better idea.

[@MysticalMeerkat]

Last I checked Canadian Tksgvg Day was on Oct 11th.. Chris!

[@thegeneral123]

I expect this will be released for Fuji X as it's an easy cross over and Sigma have been hinting they're going to start offering Fuji X lenses. It would make a smaller WR option over the 16-55 and would eclipse the old Fuji 18-55.

[@onegrapefruitlover]

Yeah, this is probably sharper than the 18-55 and with a constant 2.8 but the stabilization on that one is the reason it's such a beloved lens. At such a small size it's probably worth it, though.

[@AyeBeAPirate]

Fuji shooter here - I'd be interested, but I'm not sure if it's worth ditching the 18-55 f/2.8-4 for most people. What I'd really love to see is a companion to this from Sigma - maybe a 16-50ish f/2.8 with stabilization and weather sealing. The Fuji 16-55 f/2.8 does not have stabilization, and is $1200.

[@KL-os2sr]

Fuji shooter here… I doubt they will release this lens for Fuji any time soon, maybe in 5 years. We’re probably going to see a Tamron 35mm before we see this lens

[@thegeneral123]

@@AyeBeAPirate I have the 16 to 55 and it is an astonishing lens. It's my most used lens on Fuji. I also have the 16mm F1.4 WR, 55-200, 10-24 WR, 18-55 and a Viltrox 33mm F1.4. If you can afford the 16-55 it's absolutely the way to go. It's a big lens for Fuji but the quality is head and shoulders over the 18-55 which I think a lot of Fuji users over hype. The 18-55 is a decent lens but it's not outstanding. I'd take the Sigma 18-50 over the Fuji 18-55 in that price and weight segment if it came to Fuji X but I don't need as the 16-55 is perfect on my Xt1 and xt3. The smaller size would only matter to me If I had an Xpro or XE body. Which I don't. The ois on the 1855 is nothing special either. I'm also quite comfortable using a Sigma 24 to 70 Art on my Sony A7ii so I'm very tolerant for big glass. Your milage my vary.

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Excellent video 😊!

[@ceelee5850]

FINALLY!!! THE WAIT IS OVER!

[@linsnowx]

What I really want is this lens comes to Fuji X and Canon M... especially Canon M, this mount is praying for a f2.8 standard zoom...

[@andreasmaier3034]

Yes, EF-M version please

[@ColinRobertson_LLAP]

Fuji has an excellent 18-55 already... with OIS. But I'm all for Sigma lenses finding their way onto other systems.

[@linsnowx]

@@ColinRobertson_LLAP I have that lens but to be honest never a really big fan of that… the corner sharpness is kinda disappointing and not to mention it’s actually more expensive than this sigma if you not buying it in a kit.

[@yapster804]

I hope this comes out in ef-m mount!

[@juehengzhu4495]

As an EF-M user I second that. E-mount aps-c users are truly spoiled for having so many choices!

[@networm64]

@@juehengzhu4495 Probably cause it's not a dead mount by its own manufacturer!

[@pgy8863]

Well this does look like a compelling lens, I just wish that it was available in 2014 or 15 or 16. In Canada, they just stopped selling the original a6000. Ironic... Great review guys, you're going to have a great collection of pictures of your kids as they continue to grow!

[@CelsoMollo]

I would love if you guys created a scoring system for your review videos where at the end you would give your scores maybe from 1 to 10 or 1 to 5 explaining what each number means.

[@willemdebeer2507]

Bought this for my Canon 90D last year. One of the best purchases I have made besides buying the camera.

[@xGeoThumbs]

This is the lens I will probably upgrade to in the future from the kit lens

[@stephanweiskorn6760]

Great value 😊!

[@radialbladeworks6183]

Okay, so this is deeeefinitely a video lens. An amazing video lens!

[@Ildskalli]

This plus the ZV-E10 is basically a dirt cheap cinema machine, the likes of which has never been seen before. Amazing stuff.

[@paulbeckmann]

Great review as always. Thanks!

[@edgarmatias]

Hope they do an m4/3 version. Good portrait lens range… 36 to 100 mm-e

[@MagicMitch]

"I expected the corners to be dog s***." 🤣🤣🤣 love it

[@Soundwave857]

I hope you two get your hands on the Tamron 35-150 2-2.8 soon too!

[@tonyzhu403]

Not available for M4/3 and EF-M is quite a shame… Since the F1.4 Trio was available in the 3 mounts.

[@tomasmikeska]

just wait :)

[@-grey]

If this comes to E-FM I will finally buy an m200 or m6ii.

[@Ralph7D]

One problem that is not mentioned - the zoom ring goes in the wrong direction compared to Sony lenses. It can be very annoying if you mix this lens with Sony / Tamron lenses.

[@loldart]

This would have been perfect for me in 2017 when I owned the a6000. Likely would have kept me from moving full frame so quickly.

[@mirrorlessny]

this lens makes apsc a much lighter f2.8 medium zoom + body combo, great for travel

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@M Tech 6500 and 6600 has IBIS. No reason IBIS "should" be on every single camera. Not everyone wants it and wants to pay extra for it.

[@alanerpington5698]

No kidding, E-mount APS-C is LONG overdue for some better zoom options, instead of being stuck with lenses like the overpriced & under-performing Zony 16-70 f/4. Glad Tamron and Sigma are finally showing up there.

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@M Tech I never said it does not matter. My point was that it does not matter to everyone. Why did you buy the A6300 if it Does matter to you? Why did you not get the Pentax or Olympus instead? Why don't you get the A6500 or A6600 instead? It's not easy to figure out that a model with more features cost more - that is what my point. You just seem mad that you made a wrong decision in your purchase, which is only your own fault.

[@alanerpington5698]

@M Tech Even that was years overdue. It also costs more than twice as much as this Sigma.

[@chrisjohnston964]

"I expected them to be dog ****." Classic Chris... please never change!

[@dgross2009]

Since I own the Tamron 17-70 this would probably be an extravagance. However I really like the smaller size as I find the Tamron a little too bulky for general walk-a-around. The Sigma is almost like a prime with some range (normal wide to normal). The Tamron gives you normal wide to short telephoto.

[@stefaneriksson2006]

I own both. Different use cases for me. Sigma when guiding backcountry skiing, size and weight. Tamron when hiking or casual walks.

[@stefaneriksson2006]

@mipmipmipmipmip I have sold my Tamron ;-)

[@thathumburgerismineasshole5739]

Couldn't have related more, torn here as well!

[@MBimmer]

The sigma size is ideal for a walk around lens…Tamron was massive so it was sent back.

[@Andi_R.]

What about EF-M??!!……Please do it! We really really need this lens🙏

[@ericthestone]

Can’t wait for sigma to release this lens for Fujifilm X mount.

[@crsantin]

Great size for aps-c mirrorless. Nice affordable lens.

[@tysonator5433]

This is is just what I am looking for as it is cheap, sharp, AF is good and I will be using it on A6600 and NEX5R !

[@bboon5315]

Awesome review..if you have SONY a6600 IBIS, which one u wish to buy? Tamron 17-70mm or Sigma 18-55mm? Not so important about focal length difference..

[@rsmith02]

For me the Sigma is more interesting given the small size and fast aperture

[@bboon5315]

@@rsmith02 Thank you, i was expecting this answer..

[@phojoegraphy]

Sigma needs to start making their glass on Z-mount. Their glass is amazing

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

The Nikon 24-70 f4 is optically alot better and weather sealed. Only f4 tho.

[@Leonistech]

What mice are you using?? It sounds so good

[@maxxvideomaker]

Nice review! Thank you!

[@p.g.6308]

hi guys, how does the lens work with A6400 + Crane M3 in 4k 24p ? No slowmo. Rock stable ? No shake ? Or better to go for Weebill S and Tamron 17-70mm 2.8 VC? Thanks.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Traveling in Maine got to celebrate Canadian Thanksgiving on our Columbus Day. Camping in the snow, lol.

[@fabipuello]

Is that a kid crying at 6:20 ? Otherwise very good review. 😂😂😂

[@niccollsvideo]

I believe so. It makes for a disturbing soundtrack otherwise.b

[@fabipuello]

@@niccollsvideo it goes very well with a Halloween themed video

[@imgtutorials1260]

Can you only change the aperture in the settings not on the lens?

[@Petrolhead66]

If you has to choose between this and the Tamron, which would you buy?

[@BenAtkinsonVideos]

Hey! GREAT video. Any idea if this lens will come out with an EF-M mount for canon?

[@b2bfusion]

Great video! Am curious, what kind of wireless audio set up are you using? It's as solid as this lens!

[@markluinenburg5004]

You keep saying that LOCA is hard to get rid of (on this and numerous previous lenses). Both ACR and Lightroom have easy and effective green and purple/red elimination controls. Nothing hard about it.

[@jojojohn2416]

Is any of these lenses coming for Fuji X mount? Heard sigma is gonna release some lens soon.

[@thecommish80]

How does this compare to the sigma 28-70mm contemporary? I loved the size but the image lacked a certain punch.

[@ahmadbadrol8400]

sigma 18-50mm or tamron 17-70mm? and why

[@kp-od8ji]

Mainly because of weight and size factor. ...and stabilisation, if you are a video shooter without a inbody stabilized camera.

[@JoATTech]

I guess the main question here is if it's fun to shoot. If it is then it's good alternative for expensive sony kit lenses. Lack of IS throws me a bit off, but for 18-50 is not that important. Size is briliant here.

[@kountchev1]

Coming out for Fuji too? Seems like it's going to be a killer!

[@MongNghiMemo]

Thanks a lot, i will buy this lens Sigma for Sony A6400. I come from Vietnam

[@ruok-l5t]

Just what I need

[@chamithathukorala1985]

Please try VIVO X70 pro + low light❤️😉😍

[@thedondeluxe6941]

That lens already has a date with my Leica CL.

[@rpgroome]

Thanks for the review. Is it parfocal?

[@bernhardwiesner2856]

Nice video, as always 😉 A comparison I would like to see: lightweight always-on zoom lenses for cropped sensors: Panasonic 14-140, Olympus, the new Nikon APS Z Zoom.... Those are lenses for people that want a flexibility beyond smartphones without bulky and expensive gear, eg shooting family, holidays...

[@Milan-cf1xe]

I have the Tamron 17-70mm and wonder which is better. But probably i should just keep my lens

[@EinzMY]

Tamron is slightly wider and longer @ ~115.5mm focal length. Has image stabe, but too big and heavy for most people. This sigma has the size and weight of typical dslr kit lens which is very very good for walkaround, everyday usages

[@mirrorlessny]

probably, but depends on what you do, Tamron is much heavier so Sigma would be better for travel, but no stabilization

[@problemat1que]

I'd say Tamron 17-70 is a moderately-sized all-in-one event lens that means you don't need your long zoom for the occasional portrait, Sigma 18-50 is a light-weight walk-around travel lens that pairs well with a longer lens when zooming all the way in on landscape detail.

[@-_--le3zk]

I wish sigma 17 50 f2.8 was available for mirrorless cameras cos that thing is awesome

[@-_--le3zk]

@Tiago Cardoso thats the issue,it is a dslr lens,but it is a constant 2.8

[@daindoboy]

Chose the Tamron 17-70 because of the stabilisation and bit extra range for our sony a6100 (no ibis). We also have the sony 35mm 1,8 as a really nice portret lens. Now we have a good combination for really nice overal photo capabilities. Anyhow good to see some more really nice lenses for sony aps-c!! Full frame is getting out budget more & more. Much like the booming roadbike market 😂

[@NomadAlex]

I suppose it would also work and be compatible with SONY 5100??

[@pilarpsp127]

how much does it stack against the old sigma 17-50 for DLSR ? and why there is no new 18-35 f.18 ;)

[@noorur]

I have Sigma 16 & 56 f1.4 primes, I'm happy with those 2 primes, though I wouldn't mind the extra reach of the tamron 17-70

[@7784000]

Honestly, the 56 1.4 provides enough sharpness to crop ina bit, giving you a "fake" 70 mm. 😏 (I know that it does not affekt the viewing angle however...)

[@gillybabi5642]

Should we get this or sigma prime? Any thoughts?

[@danieldougan269]

The extra range of the Tamron arguably makes it worth the extra cost.

[@TgifchurchCoUk]

I am torn between this and the Tamron 17-70mm. I have the sigma 16mm 1.4 already. I mainly do live streaming and wants to incorporate the versatility of Zoom lenses. Tamron has 20mm longer telephoto range advantage compared to Sigma.Please advise.

[@joomeestephaniekyler3966]

I have Sigma Contemporary Prime trios (16, 30, 56mm), and I'm disappointed with Tamron 17-70mm. Maybe I'm spoiled with Sigma image quality, but all Tamron photos look too soft to me, expecially at higher zoom. The reason I'll probably sell my Tamron and try this Sigma zoom lens.

[@adrian4jc]

@@joomeestephaniekyler3966 Thanks for reply. Bought it today. I will test it on Sunday on our live streaming.

[@markrwatanabe]

Can you review the tamrons apsc 18-300?

[@bobisadrummer]

Does a lenses minimum focusing distance start at the front element of the lens or the sensor on the body?

[@j.k.2975]

WOW, thanks to Sigma, APS-C Sony after many years has usable basic zoom lens :-).

[@kenspo]

Tamron 11-20 and 17-70 is better it seems :)

[@j.k.2975]

@@kenspo Yes, but 17-70 is not basic zoom, it is premium (or extended) basic zoom :-).

[@oscarlizarraga8395]

Is this a linear focus lens?

[@keystonebrotherb]

Perfect for gimbal video. This thing is a bargain.

[@tasos_enis]

Quick question. Is someone use this lens in a full frame body? such as the Lumix S5. Can you use it if you crop the sensor?

[@big_potate]

Is it just me or were there no discernable difference in sharpness in the corners wide open vs stopped down? It seemed like vignetting was the only difference or at least the primary difference (would have to compare with vignette adjusted in post for the wide open image).

[@0M0rty]

There wasn't a huge difference, but other reviews have shown corners to be quite poor wide open actually - perhaps, as DPRTV focuses the image on corner for corner sharpness test, the lens suffers from field curvature?

[@rsmith02]

Contrast was the biggest difference I saw here

[@keithholland4322]

Please tell me they're going to make this with a micro four thirds mount like they did with their trio of f/1.4 primes and their trio of f/2.8 primes. This would offer a much better range of focal lengths for portraits than the Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro!

[@keithholland4322]

It would be even better for closeups with the smaller sensor too.

[@jordibuch]

I would like to know if I can achieve the same quality (detail and sharpness) with this lens (at 18mm) as with the Sigma 16mm f/1.4, because I already have a Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and I was thinking of buying the 16mm f/1.4, but I wonder if I can achieve the same results with the new Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8. Thx

[@jhirse3547]

Short answer: quite different lenses, so no same results. Long answer:I have both lenses and at same f-stops, the 16mm wins against the 18-50 at 18mm, but not by a huge margin. The close focusing capability of the 18-50 can't be augmented with the 16mm, though. The killer feature of the 16mm is of course the f1.4 aperture, which I would say is as sharp as the 18-50 at 18mm and f2.8. I would sell my 30mm f1.4 and get both the 18-50 (first - because of flexibility) and 16mm (second - specialised capabilities) if budget allows.

[@jordibuch]

@@jhirse3547 Thanks for your help. So what would be better? 18-50mm + 16mm? or 18-50mm + 30mm? I use the 30mm on gimbal for videoclips

[@jhirse3547]

​@@jordibuch Technically, 18-50mm and 16mm would give you more options for filming. 16mm is also more friendly with micro jitters. Question to ask yourself: do you use the 30mm below f2.8 frequently?

[@jordibuch]

@@jhirse3547 Yes, I use 30mm f1.4 inside my recording studio

[@KL-os2sr]

They probably won’t release this lens for Fuji anytime soon, maybe in about 5 years? We’re going to get a tamron 35mm 0.95 among the other 10 different 35mm for Fuji

[@sjmedia_official]

Wish Sigma did this for full frame.

[@MrMilanina]

What about light falloff wide open?

[@kalvin.]

This and the fact sigma will start working with Fuji soon 🥰

[@ComedyTech1]

does this work with FS5?

[@MrGilbertantoine]

Anybody knows if it will be released with an EF Canon mount one day ?

[@dpreview]

It’s designed for the short flange distances of mirrorless cameras, so unfortunately it won’t work with an EF mount.

[@MrGilbertantoine]

@@dpreview Oh okay I see But do you think it could be mounted on a BMPCC 4k ?

[@OttoJulian_]

Is that a cat in the background at 6:16?

[@OttoJulian_]

And 6:20. Someone's hungry?

[@ryanrootphoto]

For me, the real question is this… While shooting I honestly hate switching between my sigma trio lenses. I know the focal lengths are different between the trio and this zoom, but for all intents and purposes will this suffice as a one and done for photo and video without too much loss of quality?

[@rsmith02]

Pretty much, just a bit slower. Autofocus should be better with this new lens as the STM motor and Sigma's autofocus has improved a lot on Sony E.

[@ITZkinggjoseph]

Is it parfocal?

[@teamhazardous201]

Sigma PLEASE make this for this Canon EF-M and also get a telephoto version of this 50-140 ish.

[@andreasmaier3034]

Yes😍😍😍

[@teamhazardous201]

And Fuji X also!

[@MrMACornwell]

What's the cost in Canadian?