DR. GABOR MATE: IS ADHD A DISEASE?

[@noemisparks5815]

Thank you for this important message. After reading Scattered I had a Clinical EFT session where I remembered being 2 years old and looking at my mom. She was dealing with postpartum depression and couldn't look back at me. After I was able to express that need to be seen by her and attune to her my ADHD scatteredness went away and I could attune to my own inner peace finally. I know it's not the same for everyone, but my ADHD was definitely rooted in trauma.

[@barbadoskado2769]

same here, ADHD from trauma, generational even

[@LoReBellas]

In my opinion, One condition in this society is the lack of patience for young children, children are picking up on stress from external forces and often times are on survival mode unable to concentrate at school. Wish we could be more tolerant as a society and allow young minds to fully develop during those early years in education.

[@pamelaleibowitz3019]

Thank you!

[@marylee2732]

Guilty

[@user-jq3ht2wj8j]

thank you

[@robertdabob8939]

Children endure a lot of unnecessary shadow projection from parents who likely experienced that as well - all stemming from a lack of self awareness. "The best political, social, and spiritual work we can do is to withdraw the projection of our shadow onto others." - CG Jung

[@chanteltbester9309]

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[@FreidaRiga]

Thank you for this. I've just come across a severe critic of Gabor Mate approach to ADHD, mainly because it is not based on genetic researches. So this was my response : I've had a late (too late) ADHD diagnosis. My life was a mess from 11 years old to this day and I'm now suffering from chronic depression, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. I actually don't care about a genetic cause to my condition or if it is my parent's faults. My dad surely had ASD, but as he was born in 1927 so there was neither diagnosis nor any kind of understanding of the way he functioned. I'm sure I got some of his traits. Genetics are not the problem. Rather, it was his ignorance and the fear he had of himself that he hid as he tried to fit in society. My mom showed some signs of ADHD but it was so masked in self regulation and conditioning (religious, mainly) that it's hard to say exactly. The problem in our relationship as in the education I received remains the same: ignorance, denial in the necessity to fit in. So whatever flaws my parents had, whatever genetics they passed on, they are not the main cause for my childhood traumas which shaped a personality based on anxiety, fear, strong sense of inadequacy, and very low self-esteem and self confidence. The real cause of my parents failure as of my many "dysfunctions", of my depression and disorders, are: 1. School ; 2. Religion (guilt, ignorance and stereotypical norm) ; 3. Corporative culture and workplace culture; 4. Capitalist paradigm (all about productivity, you know...). So I'm with Gabor Maté on this: we need less genetic researches, less medication, and more social reforms, more access to knowledge of ourselves, unconditional love, encouragements, kindness and above all, an alternative way of learning + a fluid work structure + possibility of a life style that fits our profile instead of having to twist, bend, hide, compensate for who we are!

[@Error-lt6zr]

I think ADHD is a dysregulated sympathetic nervous system, which could be caused by forms of trauma. I have ADHD myself, but if I HAD a regulated nervous system then I would not have it. Currently I’m searching for ways to calm down my mind and body as I do not want to be on medication forever. I know what the problem is… if only my body could respond accordingly instead of getting stuck in the past.

[@vivianagambetta9197]

To take medication it is not a big deal, it is a tool, it is not magic, our condition it will remain, but it helps to feel better, so I think, that we obviously must look for other ways to improve our condition,,but if it is positive for your whole life, why not take medicines during our life span?

[@drumbob1753]

breathwork and meditation can help a lot to regulate the nervous system get more calm and relaxed,

[@indyd9322]

I feel exactly the same way!! Have you found anything that works? I've tried medication, but unfortunately it has side effects for me.

[@vivianagambetta9197]

@@indyd9322 not side effect for me so far, but you should get a new appointment with your physician and tell him/her about your side effects, perhaps she/he could prescribe from another lab, sometimes, it is not the drug itself, it could be the additives

[@js0001xg]

Dude I'm in exactly the same position trying to work it out now, would you be interested in keeping in touch as we work stuff out?

[@pauldaniels1503]

I also have ADHD ,am also a recovering alcoholic ( sober 16 years ) . I identify completely with Mates speech, especially trauma and impulsiveness. Who's asking you anyway , you said " if you ask me " , nobody is . Thinking with experience , and openmindness outside the box gathers more knowledge i would say .

[@1999Chelsea]

Work on your gut flora! Learn about brain Gym! Look into emdr for trauma! See if you can rent a neurofeedback machine for a month and do it every day! Stay away from critical people! Get outside move your body be creative! Stay away from street drugs! Simplify your life! Make things easy! Have more time off, even if you are more poor as a result And you will come out waaaay better than before

[@thebeachhousebasel]

Thanks for this comment - I love the positivity and hope it presents.

[@HungrysitesRu]

I didn't even participate in a discussion (there was none) but still got an unwanted advice... Wow

[@priusa8113]

How to rent this machine please?! How does it work for adhd adults? Thank you very much ❤❤❤

[@jaimerr8826]

did all of this and still feel not well. never did alcohol or drugs. exercise 3-4 a week. eat a healthy diet. eat gluten free.

[@through.a.barrel.she.breathes]

Tuning out to disassociate makes my ADHD make so much more sense now.

[@stonier92]

It’s a valid theory. Most ADHD theories are based solely on the physiological and biological pov.No one touches more upon trauma and psychological perspective.There are many people who have developed adhd symptoms later in life after going through traumatic experiences.We tend to to see every thing in black and white. Rather than ignoring his pov as completely rubbish, it’s a new perspective to look at and dig into. Maybe there is something.

[@barbadoskado2769]

what some people fail to see is that YES we can look at these conditions and view them materialistically (genetically), but what about the big complex issues that are social and psychological/emotional? like stress and trauma that cannot be seen on a genetic level, it is complexly rooted into our minds and we can feel it but it can not be seen. only the actions that result form it can be seen. it is like "satan" that is living inside your "soul" and these are good descriptions that we can tackle as a society. materialistic view is "take this pill / drug and you will feel better"

[@justtosay3785]

Developing symptoms of neurodivergence after experiencing something horrific IS trauma. What people often don’t mention is how connected in display is both neurodivergence and PTSD

[@sacredbloomalchemy]

I think ADHD is probably a mixture of genetics and environment. It's like the nurture vs nature argument. The modern life creates stress which creates trauma which creates dysregulation. I've noticed my attention span and impulsivity has been problematic when I am in stress. And also having to deal with fast paced society.

[@sleeptimesanctuary4064]

I've not heard enough to make a full judgement on his take, but speaking as someone diagnosed with adhd, I have not got one single memory where I behaved 'normally' like the others. I'm constantly fidgeting and even when my daughter was in my womb, she also would not stop moving - to the point where I could not sleep because she would move and move and move and kick and punch inside me almost 24/7. I was told this wasn't usual. Some movement was to be expected and a healthy sign. But this amount was unbearable. My daughter since birth has constantly been moving, not being able to sleep well and says she can't stop thinking all the time like her brain won't shut off. Im just unsure how this could be PURELY a trauma response from childhood. Particularly form my experience with her, she's been like this even in the womb. More research is needed.

[@grandexporter]

Adhd is a gene, its for when we were tribe living there needed to be more alert people in the group then others... For survival so every so many people have adhd, but trauma and being bored to death at school... Like instead of playing non stop you are forced to sit still and read text books...

[@Nusrat90747]

You should watch the video of Dr amen on ADHD. he scans the brains of people with ADHD.

[@katechurches]

Maybe listen again because he said this is a coping mechanism that can start at age 1 or earlier. So if if started when you were too young to form memories, then it makes sense that you wouldn’t have memories of acting “normally”. The ADHD pattern was already ingrained by the time you were old enough to form memories.

[@lisacain3754]

He’s not wrong. And yes the enteric (second) brain aka microbiome is a leveler but ‘gene’ expression (epigenetics) is manipulated by environmental conditions which is developmentally acquired.

[@bazingabling]

How do I watch the entire series

[@WholeheartedPublishing]

Hello, you can watch the entire series or course at wholehearted.org : www.wholehearted.org/title/healing-trauma-addiction/

[@irinikoub4861]

Doctor, i have so many questions. I would like yo ask that, from the moment that it us a coping mechanism, why do the doctors say that you get born with that? Why do people get diagnosed in families with one or two parents with the same problem? Why do they say about the role of dopamine? Why is it impossible to focus on something even if you are trying and you want to do it and you recognize the importance of a deadline? Why is it common in people with problems of thyroid, why do they say that 1/3 of the people with adhd are candidates for severe psychological diseases? Why do the tests show problems of perception in the right or left half of the brain? Excuse for my many questions. But i would like to know. Thank you very much for your contribution, your helpful videos and your knowledge!!!!

[@robynhope219]

What hasn't been mentioned is the connection between heart, brain, and gut. When the balance is off, all sorts of things can go wrong: ADHD, depression, Parkinson's, Schizophrenia, OCD, etc...Gabor wont tell us that bc it is not his field. I'm reading the Three Brains again by Karen Jensen, ND, and recommend the book.

[@tipotheus.]

TY

[@akashicrose5551]

He's definitely talked about the brain and gut before in many videos

[@robynhope219]

@@akashicrose5551 good to know..allopaths don't usually connect brain and gut.

[@ahmedmohmed4346]

Did you finish it?if so did the book add anything new to you?

[@robynhope219]

@@ahmedmohmed4346 yes, I was in the dark about the connections. Did u read it?

[@nikfilms1]

I agree. I have ADHD symptoms and they are full on. I also know I have this from trauma and it’s manageable.

[@tovemor123]

Which came first, the hen or the egg?

[@YouTubeShepherd]

Hen

[@HungrysitesRu]

Cool hypothesis. Next time come with research numbers.

[@robynhope219]

It's a mystery...so many ppl have it, u almost think it's normal.

[@jola9533]

Bardzo Ci dziękuję dr Gabor. Thank you.

[@melissadd7597]

The mind and brain is so powerful. Learning the tools to become aware of the default things we ALLOW our minds to do is key. You can train yourself to learn new coping mechanisms. When having an ADHD attack, having a plan to cope and lessen the severity and then actually doing that plan it will help.

[@melissadd7597]

@Gilly according to research the association between ADHD & DRD4 is small. "...the DRD4 gene is one of the most variable human genes and unlikely causes psychiatric disorders." NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3560519/

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

​@@gilly5094 I've listened to a number of his talks and instinctively I find a lot of his views are really just variations of discussions of his own experiences. A close family member was diagnosed with ADHD just last summer, in her 30s, and I can assure you there was no childhood trauma. Because she is highly intelligent (she has 3 degrees, 2 are post grad), she was able to successfully mask her struggles but looking back I now see certain situations and events quite differently. She describes her experience as an ongoing daily phenomenon and social situations in particular are especially challenging for her.

[@Chippy88]

@@gilly5094 I was thinking the same thing!! An ADHD attack???? Adhd is with u constantly.

[@jonasbertilbellander]

​@@OceanFrontVilla3yes Gabor clown is Just Guessing

[@Ricky-wc6zx]

Still ignore thiscal aspects too the condition for mental and for that reason people mess up with it 😮

[@duisburg4740]

Adhd could be a aspect from the stone age. There gives the hunter farmer theory, and that could be answer

[@KBB-nf1dr]

Nope caused by , glandular fever, an aggressive strain of, that was grown in a laboratory & injected into humanity over 100yr ago, the toxins that the virus releases in the late stage cause connective tissue disorders & ADHD

[@queengoblin]

ADHD is not neurodiversity. People who get ADHD are likely HSPs, which is a form of neurodiversity, and ADHD is the stress response (C-PTSD) that develops in highly sensitive, neurodiverse people as a result of environmental stress. ADHD is perfectly curable, being highly sensitive, or having ASD is not.

[@rachelgreen7729]

This is how I see it too

[@ihdandia]

How is it practically easily curable?

[@BeardedBusiness]

Blunderbuss.

[@kimberleymarkova3641]

Grandiose statements. Back them up.

[@snowps1]

How do you cure it?

[@Charity1277]

How does that explain it running in families tho. Im thinking its a spiritual problem first and tuning out is second.its a spirit.

[@shillout]

Since we get complex from our parents behaviour, we act out our shadows on our kids too without realising it. It's like bringing the trauma with you but expressed in a slightly different way, and it keeps going until someone breaks the cycle.

[@kerriehamilton5084]

​@@shilloutnot the easiest path but l'm doing it trauma ends with me 🙏

[@kerriehamilton5084]

Yes​@@shillout

[@kimberleymarkova3641]

You tune out for years, all your childhood, till ten years old, when this becomes impossible, you mourn it, life has taken again a parachute-less downward spiral

[@hazynpeterson4083]

Tie in with the work or dr Christopher Palmer , Dr Georgia Eades and the keto Carnivore movement/research.

[@bubblebubble279]

I read a theory that stated that nature "produces" ADHDers for the sake of innovation, exploration and risk taking since the paleo era. They are the brave ones, risky entrepreneurs, and individualists but leaders. Kind of made sense, but they would also be exposed to more dangers and would tend to become soon extinct. Plus I don't know if they struggled less (emotionally) when society had fewer rules of self management, but there definitely were clan rules and probably more drastic consequences. It's a theory worth considering but it would mean that it would be random and genetic, not a coping mechanism.

[@LightBeingsBE]

Suffering and being in a survival mode throughout childhood development is not random but may have a genetic component if this is ingrained in the previous generations preparing the child in uterus to be in survival mode when born. My son seemed a bit distressed after birth…it was very concerning. However, I had been in survival mode all my life up until 3yrs before he was conceived then once he was conceived his father left me at 4 months pregnant and I felt like I was having a heart attack for about week… I almost miscarried I was in such distress they put me on bedrest in order to save the pregnancy. He felt all that pain and turmoil. When he was born he at time looked like it too. My mother was an orphan with her 3 sisters as teens… they were in extreme survival mode and my mother was in this mode until her 70’s she got used to it. I have been in survival mode until 10 months ago. I’m 52yo I’ve been in regular survival mode all my life but I’m black that’s been our societal existence

[@bubblebubble279]

@OMG-FineChina it makes 100% sense because our ovules are "recording" everything we women experience since we are born. Our babies (fertilized ovules) get all that baggage plus their own experience starting with their own conception. They receive all the constant adrenaline of the permanent state of fight or flight. My mother had a precarious life emotionally and physically, since she was born and also during her pregnancy. My life was full of emotional stress from my time in the womb and on. I experienced stress and anxiety for as long as I can remember and in both my pregnancies it was the same situation. I'm not diagnosed but I have all of the ADHD traits I've learned about. My daughters too. Genetics aside, I've come to believe that the root is in the actual daily stressful experience and the excess of unsolved inner issues manifesting.

[@asafeplacepodcast2690]

Your insight into ADHD is itself a coping mechanism

[@grummelameise]

that is the smartest assesment in all the comments@@asafeplacepodcast2690

[@robynhope219]

Kinda makes sense.

[@thestagediveofficial]

Wow! I had no idea ADHD was so closely linked to childhood development like this

[@shizukashimoda2242]

It's not (at least not directly). ADHD isn't a personality disorder. If it is caused by trauma, that is picked up in the diagnosis and the person likely wont be diagnosed with ADHD. ADHD often causes a lot of trauma but it doesn't work the other way around.

[@t-wrecks6060]

It’s not. This dude shouldn’t be talking about ADHD. Maybe there is a developmental and environmental factor. Maybe. Which is what can be said with any mental condition period, it’s not groundbreaking to suggest it with adhd too. What this idiot is preaching is that it’s somehow avoidable, and has said it doesn’t get passed down genetically which is just hilarious to believe considering it is literally one of the most heritable disorders period. You’re born with it, it doesn’t develop... maybe just gets worse with trauma, but this jackass wants you to believe that there is something you can do to fix it and it’s up to ADHDers to stop ADHDing and then they’ll be normal and healthy and happy.

[@TheDaveGaminG98]

​@@shizukashimoda2242 nah i trust gabor he looks enlightened

[@musaire]

@@TheDaveGaminG98 No. The biggest factor for ADHD is gut flora. Trust me. We have tons of research on this. Diet and sterility of the enviroment. But stress, also maternal while pregnant already, has an effect on gut flora of the mother and her future child. You could actually call it genetic coz it depends on genes of microbiota. Human genes can create some vulnerability (coz these are also related to what gut flora person develops, immune and flora are interacting).

[@mattijs20]

​@@musaire nah i trust Gabor he look enlightened

[@croozerdog]

so charming you'd be keen to forget that every single study ever done says it is a genetic disorder not caused by the parents. The parents "parent" differently because the kid is different, and because they likely have (undiagnosed) adhd themselves. Don't blame your parents, it's what this guy among others make their money from, it's genetic and you nor your parents can and could help it.

[@craigshawmusic]

A sick society creates conditions

[@thescienceofwellbeinguk]

Amazing

[@KandMe1]

It is normal to feel uncomfortable and manifest discomfort at school if teachers and the system if failing. It may well be the discomforting factor that is the disease and not ADHD. In point of fact obviously it is. One thing in particular would be the way teachers push elitism in schools and that would be the number one contributing factor for discomfort felt by any student. Another would be laziness of teachers to fix their own blind area's, another area might be in bolstering the individual teachers area's of strengths. ADHD is a manifestation of teachers failing students more so than the student that is manifesting; both teacher and student need to be aware of things that contribute to their inneptatude and that can and are causing them problems. Elitism should never dominate existance as it does. When this problem is teated like a game of 'wack a mole' of course there is a problem but it is not necessarily with students that they are treated like moles in a game of wack a mole. Calling manifestation of discomfort ADHD is the easy way out. Elitism is at the core and elitism is the disease.

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Generalization isn't helpful. Many teachers are brilliant, many schools serve students very well.

[@KandMe1]

@@OceanFrontVilla3 Teachers that do not make you think for yourself are not helpful. Generalizations make you think. Being able to think for yourself should always be the main aim. Life is like sailing navigation, on course corrections; and that is why people need to think for themselves. What somebody has to give you an instruction manual every time they say something? Just to add that I porpbab;y seem a bit hard here but think it is relavent and true.

[@cpucilowski]

I think you’re on to something. Can you help me understand what you mean by elitism? Are you in America or another country. Is it the absence of Socratic Dialogue? Thank you!

[@jeahluna2385]

I believe this 100 %

[@KandMe1]

@@cpucilowski by elitism I mean that those who are top become favorites, there is a social class. Sport is prime example, the school sports team, those in it are held in high esteem. It develops a mentality in students. It is called pare pressure but the real name for it is elitism. And there is the in crowd, and another spattering of individuals, these are people who exploit it, often, most often, pretty much guaranteed there are also those who push themselves (actually this would be a lot of individuals), individuals who are fighting for recognition, they push the envelope of recognition. It is not ADHD that is driving them, it is elitism, a mentality they fall into by mistake, they have no guide, no mentor, only what they see, which is those considered to be elites and they want to be one. They get a response, they manifest an act, they get a response. No different to those who crack the upper recognition group for being top swimmer or lead actor in the school play. And it doesn’t help that at that same time they are exposed to adult emotions, starting to emerge into an adult world, pushing themselves courageously as they know how. Behind it all is fake misguided pretentious undercurrent created by teachers themselves. Teachers who cannot be blamed, really it’s all they know. They battled through it all themselves. Being a winner is fun. Being broken by that regimen is not but winning is. Like one successful misfit once said “everybody gets their 15 minutes of fame.” School, the psychology of pare pressure can easily overpower what is in the home. It is 50% of their woken lives. If they are not getting what they need in the other 50% at home, around friends and family, it can easily overpower them. At home, around friends, that is where they are made or broken, it is what makes or brakes them. Trauma’s can do it, social pressure. At high school level especially but earlier in social situations is where it starts. A falling out with a parent can do it. Not having enough of that parents time usually the father can do it. In the end it can get down to prayer. Faith and prayer to the Father of the heavenly lights and in the name of Jesus that can do it. The very last verse of the very last book of the prophets in the Bible says, “I will turn the heart of the children to the fathers and the heart of the fathers to the children lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.” I for one know and have experienced this to be absolutely 100% true. You don’t know what is going on in the child or father’s heart. Such powerful forces of self righteousness at work, yet he is there calling both to the light of Christ. It just takes patient prayer which changes everything. It turns the heart of the father to the child and the heart of the child to the father. And if there is no father even better because God himself takes that role. I wish I had that but in the end the Lord he turned my heart to my father’s and my father’s heart to me. Such a self righteous man but at the end before he died that man would invite his friends into his home and tell them they need to put their faith in Jesus. He told me once on the phone he prayed for me every night. This was a very successful man at work, study, sport, everything (except parenting) that was reduced to prayer, his heart was turned, the most self righteous man ever, his heart was turned.

[@Hamid-z5u]

I think Dr mate is best humans being I love him ❤️

[@remoanderegg5143]

In my opinion "bestselling author" says it all. It's not called best neuropsychological scientist. I agree ADHD could be a development issue. But with all development issues it's not that easy. Given the same conditions people who get diagnosed with adhd show far more difficulties to develop what's considered impulse regulation. So there is a biological, neurophysiological component. You cannot teach adhd.

[@kvr6869]

Yes. And he may be an expert on trauma, but not every mental issue is dependent on outward stressors. I don’t get why people refuse to accept that the brain is still also an organ with physiological properties and bodily functions can always happen to deviate from the normative healthy state. Biology doesn’t cease to exist because the mind is involved

[@BrainShake16]

Please check the documentary: In Utero (2015) if you not already did. The question is, where does these biological, genetic or neuropshysiological liability's come from? And maybe this is complementary on his vision: "There are multiple genetic and environmental risk factors with small individual effect that act in concert to create a spectrum of neurobiological liability." - Paolo Curatol

[@ProjetSoma]

His last book explains why and has a looooot of references on studies. He his not only using correlation as you may think.

[@remoanderegg5143]

@@ProjetSoma As I wrote, I don't deny that there is a developmental component. Research suggests that around in 25-30% of the cases the environment played a key role, like injuries of the brain in the womb or later in life. For the rest (66-75%) genetics are the main cause (inherited or by mutation). This is shown through many twin studies. We know that Maté is not a big fan of genetics. But the cause of ADHD isn't socio-educational, maybe the reasons of diagnosis are, but not the development of the condition itself. It is important to understand, that you get a diagnosis if your difficulties in executive functions are impairing and lower quality of life. But you cannot teach ADHD as you cannot teach autism. You can teach how to live with it.

[@remoanderegg5143]

@@kvr6869 If you want to go even further, you could say that there is no mind without a body. Which I find is plausible.

[@MarcScheffer]

A scattered mind comes from the mythe of being normal 😀

[@watertekmusic]

Has anyone ever thought of the pregnant mother drinking coffee causing ADHD? (Or at least partially)...just curious.

[@kentandersson2048]

Tänk you so much Gabor. New thoughts. Maybe mankind may try a implementation of what seems work better. You helped me so much. Thaaanks.!

[@musaire]

He is wrong. It actually is primarily gene-related. BUt but - mainly the genes in our gut flora - yes - fix the gut flora! ( stress and trauma has effect on gut flora and its metabolites (many of which are neurochemicals) but the diet component is big, and the sterility of environment). Human genes can create some vulnerability (coz these are also related to what gut flora person develops, immune and flora are interacting). We have tons of research on this. Diet and sterility of the enviroment. But stress, also maternal while pregnant already, has an effect on gut flora of the mother and her future child.

[@ahmedmohmed4346]

does watcihng the series help?

[@musaire]

He is wrong. It actually is primarily gene-related. BUt BUT but - mainly the genes in our gut flora - yes - fix the gut flora! (and stress and trauma has effect on gut flora and its metabolites (many of which are neurochemicals) but the diet component is big, and the sterility of environment).

[@ronananderson]

Please tell me more

[@danika9411]

He is not wrong. Many cases are misdiagnosed as AD(H)D. In a study they found around 36% of adult women with the diagnosis were s3xually abus3d as minors. If you look at c-ptsd and ADD f.e. the symptoms are the same. They just have different names. Dreamy=dissociation, hyperactive=hyperarousal due to being on alert, impulsive=emotional disregulation, problems concentrating and staying focussed. If you show all these you will get an ADHD diagnosis as a child. But they are also very common c-ptsd symptoms. Interestingly both can be therapised with neurofeedback, calming the amygdala down f.e. And in both cases you even use the exact same neurofeedback, mostly the game where you fly the airplane around. And it has the same effects on both people with ADHD and childhood c-ptsd. Then maybe they are often the same thing or related somehow. That doesn't mean ADHD doesn't exist at all. But what we interpret as ADHD is often something else. English is my second language.

[@georgem.2635]

Finally someone with a good command of this!❤🎉

[@georgem.2635]

​@@danika9411you keep repeating this in so many comments and I'm surprised at how you cannot see the error yourself. If 36% were discovered, how do you then draw a conclusion that it speaks for all ADHDers or their situation is the underpinning of this disorder? "Association does NOT equal causation." Is one of the cornerstones of research and is a platitude every researcher asserts. Till date, abuse has not been identified as a cause for ADHD, it remains a RISK FACTOR. Regardless of the noted association, there isn't enough evidence to solidify it as a cause because there exists MANY other noted associations (the newest being dysbiosis) apart from trauma, and many ADHDers do NOT have a history of trauma. By your logic I could also make a video claiming dysbiosis to be the sole cause of ADHD because there's been a very convincing growing body of research pointing to the same. But I am not doing that because this is not as simplistic as it seems.

[@1999Chelsea]

Gut flora is HUGE It can make the symptoms 10000% worse Trauma is a factor It can mimic adhd and make existing adhd worse But it is also genetic! And it can exist alongside dyslexia, like it did in my family You take one kid with neurodiversity, give them lots of antibiotics, trauma, poor attachment and guaranteed there symptoms will be through the roof. The other child in a different environment would be 80% more functional and would grow up to be a relaxed and functional adult

[@pauldaniels1503]

How many people on here giving opinions are actual Dr's or qualified to agree or disagree with Mate's opinion . Mmmmmmm 🤔

[@foundajobstudio]

I have ADHD and am married to a brilliant European educated, Mayo Clinic trained, family med physician who would NEVER NEVER NEVER spout such b.s. like Gabor. She's busy working 60+hrs/wk solving primary care issues for her patients. Full-on quackery if you ask me. So far out of his lane I have to question if he still has a license to practice or if he's depending on KZbin as a way to get rich quick.

[@basherbasia4451]

​@@foundajobstudiodo your brilliant spousse didn't Cure your ADHD yet?

[@shanty83goth]

He’s full of crap when it comes to adhd. No clue whatsoever

[@HungrysitesRu]

Mates opinion is based on nothing, no data, no proof.

[@shillout]

Education has to be questioned too, not everything we learn in school is true as you know. If we can't listen to many different perspectives and be open to alternative ideas humanity won't get far I'm afraid. Remember that science is based on high probability, not an indisputable truth, and several things can be true at the same time.

[@ashraftarabishi2319]

Please folks, ADHD is a disorder. It is a neurological disorder. The argument that it is stress related and caused by parents is almost medieval. Psychologists kept blaming parents for their children problems for decads and it all proved to be wrong. Developmental means that the elements that caused the disorder kick start at the developmental stage which is the womb life and the first couple of years for the brain tissues. It is caused by epigentic mechanisms like histone modification which affects the differentiation of stem cells into fully functional brain cells and it can be passed down the generations. It is a disorder that affects all the function of the front of the brain which includes impulse regulation, emotion regulation and attention and motivation among other functions of the frontal cortex.

[@StevenCarrolllimitless]

I’ve had it all my life. This makes sense to me in my case.

[@Leukemia.survivor]

As someone with ADHD, I can’t disagree strong enough. It’s true that trauma and/or depression will cause ADHD symptoms. During the diagnosis process, the doctor has to determine that nothing else is causing ADHD. My guess is that his doc didn’t to that. It’s more likely that He was suffering from trauma, and that trauma caused ADHD like symptoms. He can’t turn around and say “because my trauma caused ADHD symptoms, it means that trauma caused EVERYONE’s adhd symptoms “. That’s not the case. All this means is that he probably doesn’t have ADHD. That’s the most likely scenario. I wish he’d stop. He’s just spreading bad information and making people think ADHD people don’t need their meds.

[@hcf555]

An issue lies in people being unable to see any difficulties in childhood too. I was a therapist for a while and many people think their childhood was good/ fine/ great etc, but when they actually really talk about it, you can see that it wasn't at all. It's like a classic Stockholm syndrome. If you can't tell your dr that you possibly have childhood trauma of some kind how else is ADHD seen? As something genetic. Who truly knows how many cases are genuinely nature without any nurture involved at all? It's impossible to say. Unless you work in a therapeutic environment and see clients who have had such a diagnosis it's very hard to know whether something is genuinely completely unconnected to childhood experiences.

[@sperez3275]

It doesn’t mean you don’t need your Medications. Or that you don’t have ADHD or that you can just STOP the disease and the symptoms if you tried hard enough. If this is true, and to me- it really does seem like the two are connected- that doesn’t make your experience, or struggles ANY LESS VALID valid. Or your ADHD less valid. So many people have it, it’s definitely VALID and real. But trauma, maybe even being passed down genetically through generations, does definitely seem, like it could be a possible cause. And it’s definitely a RESULT of adhd, that’s been proven and agreed upon. It’s already IN the “chain reaction” or whatever you’d call it, along with adhd. It follows adhd. So it’s not so crazy to think or theorize or draw a conclusion, that it very much, just as well, could have proceeded it, or proceeds it. Even if not directly/personally. Even if u don’t think so, at the very least, the two are VERY closely related, whether it be the similarity of. or the identical symptoms, or the fact that one of them is often found with the other. The two are certainly connected- in some sort of way, at the least.

[@hcf555]

@@sperez3275 Yes, it's a lot of unknowns whilst still struggling with either adhd or adhd-like symptoms. ASD is also misdiagnosed and trauma can be a cause of very similar symptoms, but it can exist alone as ASD and trauma follows too from living in a neurotypical world. It's all very complex for sure. Struggle is still struggle no matter the label.

[@CD-qr7ec]

Yes, exactly!

[@Leukemia.survivor]

@@sperez3275 agreed. It seems like lots of things (depression, trauma, lack of sleep) can aggravate ADHD. As I learn more about it (after getting diagnosed myself) it’s really interesting to see how complex “mental health” issues can become.

[@zovalentine7305]

❤Gabor Mate MD PhD CM ❤

[@sidewinder1639]

Mate is talking out of his ass on this subjecy

[@ahmedmohmed4346]

why do you say that? it seem rational to me?

[@sidewinder1639]

@@ahmedmohmed4346 Mate is not a specialist on ADHD. In his view on psychiatric problems he’s a one trick pony. According to Mate the underlying cause is always trauma. Although trauma is very important, it’s not the cause of all mental problems. Adhd is for 80 percent hereditary. Science is not on Mate’s side. This is the problem with all those medical psycholigal influencers, there’s an urge to putt stuff online because is very rewarding for them. It feeds on the person’s narcissism.

[@JoeMoss83]

At least he substantiated his claim

[@sidewinder1639]

@@JoeMoss83 no he didn’t, he just made a construct which is not proven

[@JoeMoss83]

@@sidewinder1639 Oh please. Call it construct if you want, but there's still more substance and logic there than your claim that he's talking out of his ass 😂 Also you know what else cannot be proven? ADHD. There's no biological or physical proof of it. It's diagnosed through subjective observation.

[@Ricky-wc6zx]

Well buddy got adhd I had it for ages and people like too say it mental disorder and do you have any mental disorder that make you litery have blood fly out nose when you get work up that fiscal not a bloody mental I had it when was kid befor disosded befor medication so it not any of them why do people with adhd have too vent blood out of there nose threw nose bleeds ye no one can exsplain that and that has no corrinating fact with mental disorder and lot thing they left out with condition because they couldn't prove them

[@Rakrakoowski]

Yes, and Dr. Gabor would be committing malpractice if he said any of this to a patient.

[@Justin--ze6qq]

exactly this

[@oakhardt]

I was talking about this the other day, it's like people have just given up

[@sadiethreat]

maybe..,.

[@jz4087]

I like how he talks. He speaks the truth.

[@oliveludicrous]

Gate once was humble, and curious. Now he has talked too much everywhere and to everyone in order to know anything of importance anymore. Too much speculations and creative usage of words and spectacularities. Gate has become more of a french self-congratulatory philosopher more than someone with pragmatic knowledge.

[@dibdab699]

So my Son's ADHD and ADD / ODS is caused by trauma and bad parenting ? Not buying it.

[@MishaSkripach]

Yes it is. Of course you won't buy it.

[@dibdab699]

@@MishaSkripach Because there's no proof . You should also be very aware of the power of that allegation while having no idea of narrative , construct or context.

[@MishaSkripach]

@@dibdab699 Well, the power is needed to make you think. As all other methods did not help your kid, the condition stands, doesn't it? Had other means been effective, you would have a model child by now. Look through the diagnostic criteria of ADHD and you will find the exact description of the word B R A T. Who are badly parented kids? Those who are not trained to obey authority, to wait their turn, to comply with adult instructions, to be quiet, to work hard. All those skills are the job of the parents to instill. All those skills are not inborn, they are like piano skill, need to be taught! Not just told about, but the parents should make sure those skills are trained in by age 4-5. There is no proof whatsoever that ADHD is of medical nature. A child lacking piano training is not piano dosordered, he just did not gave a good piano teacher. Rachmaninoff concerto disorder! Think. Don't be negative: my words are providing you with hope, you insist on hopeless version. It is good and reassuring that the kid is poorly parented, as the parent might be willing to be changed, to use completely new approaches, and thus will get the child out of the psychiatric abyss of the disorder. If course you can keep biting the hand that is given to you, at the end of the day it is your life, your choice. ADHD drugs destroy heart muscle.

[@Voy2378]

Not convinced, my friend has ADHD that gets much much worse if he eats sugar...

[@ktnow88]

Diet affecting ADHD symptoms doesn't mean trauma wasn't part of what caused some of the base ADHD to start with. Both can be true. Yes sugar can make most of us jittery; coffee, caffeine, food colourings. But some will respond in different ways than others; some get more jittery/distracted from this than others.

[@ahmedmohmed4346]

@@ktnow88what's the relation between eating sugar & disasociating from society?

[@liam.4454]

Has anyone ever cured adhd? Maybe you can switch it off if you live stress free?

[@ilianamarisolromero7816]

It can, but one has to work a lot on seeing the trauma, the pain that one felt and still feels, make a decision to forgive, here’s where it gets difficult because we’re not always aware of of our drives, our unconscious beliefs, the things we told ourselves we were due to what we saw in other people. So, some people take medication, others therapies and ultimately some kind of deep acceptance at a spiritual/higher power level

[@liam.4454]

@@ilianamarisolromero7816 do you know what I mean by mine chatter? I feel like if i can switch that off then my ADHD has gone

[@ilianamarisolromero7816]

@@liam.4454 mind chatter, omg, very hard for me to switch it off, I’m always thinking in some way when I hear something or someone, turning it around, finding another narrative, practicing dialogues, jokes, I’m fidgety. I also think that deep inside we’re very smart, can abstract concepts and see the bigger picture. I’m just going to start therapy, hopefully I can actually put it all in practice. I know what I have to do, that’s why I get annoyed when people give me suggestions to change. I’ve read all kinds of self help, philosophy, metaphysics, history, I work in healthcare as a translator, and I understand a lot of what’s going on with disease. Problem is procrastinating and self sabotage. I’m glad you can manage your adhd

[@musaire]

It actually is primarily gene-related. BUt but - mainly the genes in our gut flora - yes - fix the gut flora! ( stress and trauma has effect on gut flora and its metabolites (many of which are neurochemicals) but the diet component is big, and the sterility of environment). Human genes can create some vulnerability (coz these are also related to what gut flora person develops, immune and flora are interacting). We have tons of research on this. Diet and sterility of the enviroment. But stress, also maternal while pregnant already, has an effect on gut flora of the mother and her future child. Best one can do to avoid ADHD is to eat mostly plant-based (no need to go 100%), use lots of fermented foods, not over-sterilize oneself and the environment - healthy flora requires fiber, polyphenols etc. omega-3, lots of spices. But remember, gut flora takes time to develop - some species lost over generations may not be easily recoverable. FOr some people quick diet changes also cause immune reaction (the best known is how bad bacteria react to fiber and initially create toxins in response to convince the host organism to stick to old diet but it changes when enough time allowed and good bacteria overtake - bacteria and viruses run us if we don't govern them consciously ourselves), so the change needs to be slow and accommodating.

[@sperez3275]

@@musaire do u have a link to this or studies on it or more articles about what kinds of foods, or diets, or vitamins, to consume ? I’m really interested & curious.

[@barbarauridge1575]

No it’s spoiled bratism

[@Robot123abcbeep]

They took our jobs

[@BeardedBusiness]

Fop

[@propanbutan4634]

Looks like everyone has adhd.

[@shanty83goth]

What a load of crap! 😂😂😂