Dr Paul Mason uses science to answers questions about vegan and carnivore diets..

In December 2020, Dr Paul Mason was interviewed by SBS TV (a national broadcaster in South Korea) for a documentary on nutrition. The purpose of this documentary is to assess the science behind plant based diets. This in the context of increasing popularity of these diets (in part driven by a wildly popular pro-vegetarian program from the same broadcaster 10 years prior) to see whether the health claims of plant based diets stack up.
Since the recording of this interview, a recently published systematic review (www.cochrane.org/CD013501/VAS...) on vegan diets found that there have been zero randomised controlled trials evaluating clinical outcomes of pure plant based diets. This finding at the very least, should bring into question the validity of claims made regarding putative health benefits of vegan diets.
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[@thegoodoldways]

Verbal eloquence/elegance, wordsmith, wordcrafter, verbal acuity, gentle and unegotistical, not arrogant, generous sharer of knowledge and research. Thanks for connecting the dots.

[@rekamud6635]

@NOTREALLY HANKAARON he da man!!! but most importantly he does it for free!!!

[@desh7120]

You have eloquently summed him up! Thank you.

[@ljs7wave]

Perfectly said!!

[@steakovercake3986]

Paul Mason is a brillant scientist

[@DavidInSydney1]

He is certainly a brilliant communicator. I find his talks are interesting, surprising and very well explained, backed up by proper research. I’ve certainly learnt a lot and I’ve been moving to the Keto/carnivore diet.

[@ucchi9829]

He’s not a scientist

[@Jayc9582]

@@ucchi9829 how is he not a scientist? He studies science and has expert knowledge in several physical and natural sciences. That is the textbook definition of a scientist.

[@metalrunner4398]

A brilliant quack

[@pepper419]

@@ucchi9829 He is a scientist.

[@antoinetteparry8575]

I have to say this Paul, I've been watching you for years and you never seem to get any older. Your skin is fantastic, clearly you're doing the right thing.

[@plagship]

It’s really hard to not attribute malice to pretty much everything our institutions do and say any more.

[@mariannemedina4202]

Well said. So much corruption everywhere. I’m so sick of it!!!

[@Astronurd]

Oh, your 100% right about that.

[@barberton3695]

Corn prevents the absorbtion of zinc and the tannins in black tea prevent the absorbtion of iron! This is knowledge that more people need to learn. Thank you doctor

[@JYAN2852]

Corn is a grain and also contains gluten and lectins. GMO with herbicide and pesticide residues. MSG, corn starch, high fructose corn syrup are all made from this grain.

[@ucchi9829]

Source?

[@Justice_Hammer]

@@JYAN2852 Corn doesn’t contain Gluten

[@jamesm.9285]

I'd suggest looking into the fascinating history of widespread niacin (B3) deficiency caused by the *dependance* on improperly prepared corn, too. The human diet is based on balanced and properly prepared foods, and is highly subjective due to geography, seasonality, availability, and individual lifestyle and genetic factors.

[@jamesm.9285]

@@ucchi9829 None needed. Any research on antinutritive effects of these foods will yield you ample results. This doesn't inherently vilify these foods, but stresses the importance of appropriate portioning and PREPARATION.

[@tinhtruong2976]

My goal is to run a restaurant kitchen that only uses animal fats in the cooking.

[@thegram9207]

Open a chain

[@midwestribeye7820]

That would be great!

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

McDonald's did until the '70s when the demonization of saturated fats kicked in.

[@strawberryquark]

Where will you have this restaurant? I would like to visite it one das😊

[@mickaelmtp2397]

So what will be your dessert menu like ? I'm looking forward to open a similar restaurant but exclusively low-carb.

[@kathleendexter5999]

Dr. Mason. Thank you so very much the excellent advice. A truly wonderful lecture.

[@BigSlimyBlob]

People in the "blue zones" not only have generally healthy lifestyles, they also eat a whole lot more meat than was initially reported. In particular, most of them love pork. And yes, Hong Kong has the highest meat consumption per capita in the world, AND the highest life expectancy in the world, and this despite a generally not very healthy lifestyle (stress, pollution, etc).

[@MarcusBarnabassisSystersSonne]

Dr Mason's comment around 2:12 that "if your body DOES need sugar..." is EXACTLY what I needed to hear. Such a simple statement is so profound. The BODY decides when it needs sugar, not some talking head or youtube video or dietary guideline made from best guesses.

[@brett6468]

Paleo -> Keto -> Carnivore. There has been a revolution in the field of nutrition over the past 20 years. Old ideas such as low-fat or plant based diets are finished.

[@ceciliepedersen7402]

I have followed you for about a year now, and i just absolutly love your what you talk about. I have changed my diet, and everytime i eat vegetables i get constipation. Thank you, Paul, for the amazing job you do to educate us on health and nutrition ❤ Big hug form a big fan of yours in Norway😁

[@zambrocca]

funnyhow in bergamasco dialect (from Bergamo, Italy) Pedersen means Parsley :D

[@bijanbonyadi1787]

Dr. Mason is always amazing and enlightening

[@iancollings5047]

Clear, precise and very persuasive.

[@ljs7wave]

I often have friends and family that are inquisitive about my carnivore way of eating and this video is a great "starter" video to explain things. I often send them to your video's doc, because I can not explain the science like you do . . . and often it's a bit overwhelming for them . . . Don't get me wrong; I love listening to all the science but for the average Joe . . . it's too much!! I could and sometimes do listen to you all day!! LOL Thanks for this recording doc I think it will help me spread the word!!! ❤

[@cesarwarrior3723]

Yes, Great

[@barblacy619]

Dr Ken Berrys videos are as high quality but he addresses it to a lay population since his medical specialty is family medicine

[@esther.f.g]

very interesting the point about the anti nutrients. About the blue zones, they usually forget to say that they expend a lot of time outside, they don't have stressful days in the office, they have strong social links with family and friends and the air is not polluted

[@albrackets8446]

Very good point. Not everyone can move to Icarus or Sardinia.

[@SydneyCarton2085]

Loma Linda, a blue zone with bad air quality.

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

I love the fact that courageous doctors are now starting to call out the bogus epidemiological studies that have driven our badly misguided conventional wisdom on diet. Dr. Paul Saladino is another one strongly pushing back on improper use of epidemiology.

[@pollyester6639]

Same - just discovers Paul proff Ben bickman, there’s another but cannot spell his name - I’m sharing this constantly with my family - I explored keto for weight loss and now the weigh loss is a side benefit - seed oils out, carbs out protein and sat fats in - as an aside 5 aunties and mum and dad lived/living to late 80s diet of sat fats

[@helenalovelock1030]

And yet the get called Quacks. Which they are not of-course

[@jimrutherford2773]

The only problem is Saladino cannot make an impact on policy by sitting in Costa Rica and surfing every day and making a video here and there. He really needs to get involved in these forums and conventions and make presentations where people of influence will hear him.

[@carlosclass787]

Excellent questions! What an astonishing interview. This video answered so many of my doubts and clarified a lot of confusion I had. Thank you!

[@avermaak12]

Bloody brilliant, concise outlining of dietary requirements. Thanks!!!

[@jimrutherford2773]

I have been to one of these blue zones in Italy. They eat a lot of meat including pork, as well as seafood. They are not vegan or vegetarian.

[@jamesm.9285]

I actively listen and try to learn from both sides of the "debate" on animal foods, plant foods, metabolic health, and longevity. Indeed some long-lived and healthy people eat primarily carbohydrate and plant-based diets, but what I've noticed is that they do include mixed animal proteins, exercise, practice fasting, get sunlight, live low-stress lifestyles, have strong social connections, and that ALL of these factors are very, very important. Vital, even.

[@jamesm.9285]

This conclusion comes from diving deeply into the truths and myths about Blue Zones, listening to these individuals themselves (not in person), learning about the works of "longevity scientists", and gaining a basic understanding of research quality.

[@pepper419]

What they don't consume is factory made junk and oils from seeds are just that.

[@fuzzybunny3235]

I LOVE Dr Mason and Dr Fung - seriously!

[@mikaelak90]

Wonderful! Looking forward to more of these. Want to see more of the serious big-picture science, so this was great.

[@DianaR77]

I love the enthusiasm! Love it, love it, love it!

[@jphuwae4505]

Thank you 🙏

[@mghaderyan]

This was great! Thank you :)

[@joannekerr8839]

Such a wonderful video - thank you so much 👍

[@MikeSpinak]

Excellent. Thank you, Paul.

[@sailingcosmo47]

Life changing, life saving and inspiring with the answers presented so clearly that we can all benefit greatly 🙏🏼

[@aliakhouaji6423]

If they could do time stamps plus the research that would be amazing. 💯💯

[@alphacause]

Thank you Dr. Mason for publishing this interview. It is an excellent primer for those who are new to the low carbohydrate lifestyle, and this question and answer format does a cogent and concise job of dispelling many of the myths that make people fearful in adopting this most of effective of dietary protocols. You are providing a valuable service, and I greatly appreciate your tireless efforts in making such information accessible to the masses.

[@kayallen7603]

Excellent presentation! Thank you!

[@heinerlauter1211]

27:12 even the doorhinges in your clinic need more fat🤣

[@cesarwarrior3723]

Gratitude Paul Mason

[@barberton3695]

Excellent lecture. Thank you

[@unreasonable4rce]

Excellent!

[@njm7941]

Excellent

[@rond5323]

Thankyou; but for some people I know, these messages will need lots more repetition; I hope you don't get frustrated You and other "low carb" doctors (and the carnavorous ones) (on KZbin) have improved my health and physical fitness in recent years. At 70, that's a bit counterintuitive. I'd like to hear some clues about effects of cooking, particularly on micronutrients ..I suspect I do best on rather raw meat (probably only cooked enough to sterilize the outside) and I have about half the eggs raw... N of 1 ..so I dunno. Thanks heaps

[@scottw2317]

2 things about eggs, one is the risk of contamination via raw eggs, in particular the 'whites' i.e. salmonella and the other is raw egg whites lock up biotin which may affect the levels of this necessary compound. Eggs are in the scheme of things though one of the most absorbable foods known, even for an animal food it is top tier converted easily for use. .... as long as you do not react to them that is and I feel sorry for those that do.

[@magicf7076]

Great talk. Just how it is.

[@juliametcalf2660]

Great summary ...Dr Paul is the Rock Star of nutrition

[@reinerschafer1708]

I suspect Arctic explorers that consumed penguins must have been pretty rare. Haha

[@twasbrilligandthesli]

They would have had to go a long way for their food!

[@markiangooley]

Not unless they became Antarctic explorers…

[@BCzepa]

quick question: does gluconeogenesis occur when not in ketosis? if so, is it downregulated or upregulated when in ketosis? also can you remind me why reducing/stopping carbs requires more salt intake, ive felt lack of salt in keto i just dont know what role salt plays that carbs fill.

[@dr.gstreadmilltechnician7997]

What I like is the clear presentation, but also how you point out how corrupt the science most of the time is (and misanthropic). Yet you don't say it yourself, but let the viewer conclude from the mountains of evidence.👌

[@SolidNate99]

I wonder if there is a better audio available for this? The echo makes it hard to hear for me.

[@QrayzHD]

What about salt? Everyone I know on Keto is putting salt on everything but my concern is the studies showing a depletion in beneficial bacteria like Lactobacillus and an increase in Th-17 cells. Do i have to salt my low carb meals?

[@Arjunarjunskiy]

Maybe Lactobacillus isn't that beneficial after all...

[@steakovercake3986]

Ive noted people who don't add salt but year/s after adaptation

[@QrayzHD]

@Henrik Schandorff I appreciate that.

[@wagnerlopes5360]

Follow your body need, your taste, craves, the body has a "salt center" to control it with Precision.

[@scottw2317]

there are some groups who are genetically developed to not use much salt at all, much like some have adapted to low choline diets etc so now they produce it themselves. The importance is salt to taste, it the bowels are not moving well maybe try a little more salt. Personally I use lots of salt and from overall meta analysis of health studies eating ABOVE the maximum daily recommended value of sodium shows more benefits than eating within the recommended 'healthy' range. Lactobaillus is a huge group, which specific strains are we talking here? Strains like acidophilus have been actively shown to increase weight gain by increasing hunger signals (hence why they push that rubbish in yogurts etc). Strains like reuteri which can be found in products like biogaia and I think colic treatments for children are especially beneficial not just for children.

[@chrisdiprose]

oooh when are SBS showing this?! .. need to watch!!

[@cearilindubhlaoi9507]

Genius 😊😊👌👌

[@MS45636]

subbed

[@Brani1974]

Such a good interview! Shame the lav mic didn't work and audio is horrendous...picked up by most likely by a Nikon camera constantly hunting for focus 😂 Am I right? 🤣🤣

[@christopherdockstader16]

Actually, I highly respect Dr. Mason. However, the Saturated Fats and Health study had some people with glaring conflicts of interest. Although this doesn't inherently make any study wrong, it does make it suspect. Surely a better paper exists.

[@christopherdockstader16]

Let me just clarify, although I agree with a Carnivore diet, the studies cited here were really not good choices, for the most part. I think Paul could do better.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

List the conflicts of interest. The burden is on you to show how it is compromised.

[@oa2621]

Surely better paper exists because you do not like what this one is saying. This is the problem today people do not want to accept facts. I remembers time when people claim something and people would say show me proof….now we show proof and people say I choose not to accept the proof.

[@rossmcintyre3228]

Grass fed not grain fed animals. I’m in...😄

[@bijanbonyadi1787]

Can you please talk about physiological insulin resistance caused by being in ketosis for a long time and the health implications of it? Thanks Doctor!

[@thegram9207]

Say what ?

[@jonchapman6821]

Insulin resistance caused by being in Ketosis for extended periods? 🤣

[@leglesssteve]

Not to be confused with normal insulin resistance, here's my current understanding: When you first go SAD to low carb, it can be a bit grim until you get everything good at fat burning. Maybe it's the same going the other way? And/or When running gluconeogenesis, there's a biochemical interlock (glucagon?) that blocks insulin production and lets glucose rise a bit after eating some carbs? Could be nonsense, but I would also like to understand more about exactly what's going on here. 🙂

[@Gengh13]

If you are worried about it, have a higher carb day once in a while and it won't be a problem.

[@bijanbonyadi1787]

@NOTREALLY HANKAARON yes I have watched Ben Bikman explain before but I never understood whether its good or bad. Dr. Paul Saladino believes that we should bhave carbohydrates from time to time to remain metabolically flexible. But I have never heard such remarks from Dr. Mason.

[@TheChubbyDoe]

I like his arguments but would like to see publications instead of just youtube lectures to back this up. A review article further discussing the research cited in these lectures would be attractive to journals, and probably be highly cited itself if published.

[@kimberlycooper4170]

Buy books by these scientists, medical doctors, etc. Almost all books have reference sections that list the research backing up what is written in the books.

[@henknagel]

Hero

[@beckyna3903]

Good shownotes

[@eflon137]

how old is dr paul mason? couldn't find anything online, Id be curious if anyone knows

[@kinarrakid5036]

why is his age relevant?

[@Truth_bearer]

@@kinarrakid5036 Maybe to see if what he preaches makes any sense?

[@lindymerry38]

In a video which he made with his 4-year-old son in 2020 about answering children's Covid-19 related questions, I think he said he was 40. Unfortunately, the video seems to have been taken down.

[@Jean-yn6ef]

💚

[@Andre-yg8xx]

What is Advanced Glycation of End Products?

[@Ismimical]

Which field of study can one take to learn about human nutrition, physiology ECT?

[@defdaz]

They both literally are fields of study. Human nutrition. Physiology. I have a combined honours degree in Nutrition, Physiology and Biochemistry.

[@pollyester6639]

Paul you need to get on Dave Rubin’s show

[@marcjacobson757]

I enjoy Dr. Mason's lectures on metabolic health, but we can't use studies from 50 and 60 years ago to rebut the conclusions of much more recent studies that state that replacing saturated fats with PUFAs and MUFAs improves cardiovascular outcomes. In particular, given the Minnesota experiment had to be reconstructed from incomplete documentation, that's a poor choice as well. What RECENT RCTs, meta-analyses or systematic reviews demonstrate that SFAs are healthy not to mention better than PUFAs?

[@louismagee9715]

Life saving. I just also think that while vegetables might not be essential, they can prevent disease. So why not consume lots of veggies along with meat.

[@krejich547]

What disease do they prevent? And what vegetables do you mean specificaly? Your comment is very vague

[@helenalovelock1030]

Look up Dr Chaffey. He doesn’t eat any plants and would never give children plants to eat. Plants and grains are toxic.

[@Sungodv]

Sounds like the lapel mic wasn't working

[@traceygibbons6760]

Dr M ❤️ organic cold pressed virgin coconut oil yes or no? Coffee yes or no?

[@mikaelak90]

I cook with coconut oil, because it's so high in saturated fat. I know vegetable oils are out, but don't know about freshly-pressed seed oils (unprocessed).

[@cantankerouspatriarch4981]

All seed oils are potentially dangerous in excess. How they are "pressed" is inconsequential seeing as the maconutrients they provide are what is potentially harmful. If you get a little bit of it in your diet and you are not sick, don't worry, but there is probably no need to go out of your way to add lots of seed oils to your diet.

[@jimmyatoms4438]

@@cantankerouspatriarch4981 Um. Macronutrients are, Carbohydrates, Proteins, & Fats. Oils are Fat. And the way they're "pressed" matters. Cold Pressed means just that. They're squished. That is all. They're not superheated, or processed with solvents, or hydrogenated. Processed vegetable oils (corn,soy,sunflower,canola, cottonseed, e.t.c...) are disturbingly processed with all of the aforementioned and more. It's the general consensus among the overwhelming number of dietitians/medical professionals that they're terrible. Poison really. Coconut oil is high in Saturated fat, and does not oxidize readily. It's shelf stable for a couple years. There may be an argument made that coconut oil isn't a whole food and that is somehow bad. I personally don't subscribe to this, and with a medium/high proportion of medium chain triglycerides, is considered readily mobile for energy usage. For these reasons, I personally find it to be an excellent choice. Among the plant oils, I feel it's superior to cold pressed olive or avocado. Do your own research, I saw claims that it raises LDL cholesterol, but I question the validity of the study. Also the smoke point is 350° and I'm not sure what exactly happens chemically at that point, I just stay below that if cooking with it as burning food is generally bad.

[@user-vu6tm4gm1j]

Then what is the purpose of the myriad edible plants that are on earth?

[@robinbeers6689]

In the wild there are actually very few edible plants. We have engineered a lot of the produce aisle. For example the whole cruciferous veg section is the result of human tinkering with one edible wild mustard plant.

[@SolidNate99]

So are carbs just bad basically?

[@nikhilsivanarain5102]

Carbs are unnecessary.

[@heinerlauter1211]

Watch like the keto docs look like, and compare them to your doc at home --> you better eat keto!💪🏻

[@helenalovelock1030]

True. Most of the nurses here in the UK are obese too.

[@mjordan5382]

can you debate vegan gains please.

[@kinarrakid5036]

It would be a waste of Dr Mason's time.

[@ultimategohan56]

@@kinarrakid5036 or he'd get wrecked. Lol 😂😂😂

[@razonyespiritu]

that would be degrading for this doctor vg is a childish fanatic desrespectful person

[@borissman]

The low carb community sure does pick weird intro music everywhere

[@thegram9207]

Glad you got away with that observation . And besides the music , what do you think?

[@pookiecatblue]

I LOVE the intro music. I wish I could find out the song title.

[@MariA-bu2jv]

Really? One man’s meat is another man’s poison 😀

[@barbarawillins1618]

You are the best Dr. Mason but please stop using the term "vegetable oil" they are "seed oils"

[@ODIus1549]

Yes but they are know branded as vegetable oil on labels. No one calls them seed oils

[@MariA-bu2jv]

What is corn? A seed or a veg?

[@lf7065]

@@MariA-bu2jv It's a grain

[@markiangooley]

@@MariA-bu2jv technically it’s a grass! (If you believe that short film that RiffTrax made fun of.) It’s a seed that’s considered a grain. The oil is limited to the germ of the kernel, and when corn is prepared traditionally by nixtamalization, treatment with alkali, the corn oil is essentially turned into soap, washed away, and discarded. So it’s not traditionally eaten. Even in modern uses of corn it could be considered a waste product except that the germ contains enough useful things to save, and corn oil is useful though not a good food.

[@lindymerry38]

@@MariA-bu2jv Grains are grass seeds. Similarly, nuts are tree seeds & legumes are also seeds. It is a misconception that corn is a vegetable, just as peas & green beans are incorrectly considered to be vegetables.

[@mjones1122]

Why does corn oil say that it is heart healthy? clearly this is false advertising.

[@MariA-bu2jv]

Correct! ✅

[@ucchi9829]

Because it is.

[@johntrujillo7001]

crappy sound

[@martinarnold5239]

But that's not how fibre works, it's a simplified analysis that ignores the part soluble fibre plays. Disappointed to hear this because it's not helpful

[@scottw2317]

this is the simple science of it broken down into a small enough piece to give people an idea that fibre is no needed in the least. I have seen plenty of studies that shows soluble fibre and how great it is ..... compared to insoluble fibre that is. apart from that it is all weakly associated highly confounded epidemiology right down the line on fibre consumption except trials like the one he mentioned.

[@ucchi9829]

@@scottw2317 lol

[@lindymerry38]

@@ucchi9829 Your comments add no value to this discussion.

[@albrackets8446]

Ok, so we should get our vitamin C from eating horses and penguins?

[@scottw2317]

if you are a napoleonic solider or artic explorer then maybe so.

[@jaywhoisit4863]

There is ample Vit C in meat as long as your glucose is low. They bind to the same receptors and compete. If you are low glucose you’ll free up receptors for vitamin C.

[@gribbler1695]

Get it from beef that is not cooked well done, raw liver, fish roe and eggs.

[@akraen1858]

Get this man on Joe Rogan, after the combatant vegan (who just bullied Dr. Kresser into submission) he had on there's a big record that needs to be set straight.

[@yliutang]

I think if you want to do carnivore, you have to eat raw meat in order to keep all the nutrients.

[@galadriel9473]

No you dont lol, youll lose tiny amounts of nutrients if you cook meat, nothing dramatic, dont listen to what everything sv3rige says he makes shit up, u can do ur own research and see for yourself

[@DiarioCarnivoro]

Cooking doesn't deplete nutrients from plants? Add this to the less bioavailability and the antinutrients.. There you go. So why would this be specific only to a carnivore?

[@robinbeers6689]

I disagree. We as humans have been eating cooked meats for a very long time. Evolutionary scale time. I have yet to see any proof by the all raw crowd to back up their claims.

[@florrie8767]

I do know personally 3 life long vegans that lived to 90s. Dr Kikii sidhwa.and the founder of vegan society but cant remember his name and there are others. I know personally 3 former raw vegans thpat went to carnivore diet 2 developed colon cancer soon after young. I think its more complicated .than diets. I dont personally know anyone that has lived long on carnivore. Eskimos dont live that long.

[@scottw2317]

you don't develop cancer 'soon'. cancer is a metabolic issue that is years or decades in the making. Such a stressful change in diet may have revealed the symptoms earlier than what you normally be revealed though. Vegan diets can often mask poor health, because they look sick, often feel sick but won't get help and often have low to very low LDL which is also an indicator in a normal person that there might be something functionally wrong but low LDL is also a 'feature' of many on the vegan diet.

[@Love_desirred]

Life long vegans who lived to 90 never existed and will never exist.

[@francoviolencia1488]

That's basically a cherry picking fallacy. To actually demonstrate false a GENERAL rule, you need a much bigger sample instead of a much tinier one. Let me give you an example with the follow statement: "My grandfather smoked for 50 years and he died at 90 years old with no history of cancer whatsoever. Anti-smoking campaigns must be a hoax." You see it? I'm not trying to make fun of you or something like that, but applying the same logic to a less slanted topic helps quite a lot to understand the problem.

[@LinusBerglund]

I have gotten to the 15 minute mark, and none of the things I have looked up are never really what he claims. My bullshit-o-meter went off with the Indian study. I looked it up. It doesn't compensate for smoking. I checked smoking rates in India. Smoking is vastly more common in the south. I then found two studies that compensated for smoking that found that northerners had a higher mortality. That he can sit there and deliver this with a straight face is mind-boggling.

[@philiphodgesnz]

Self promotion by means of mock 'interviews' ?? Nevertheless I appreciate the message...

[@lindymerry38]

It looks like a self-promoting mock interview, but if you look at the video description, it explains that this was in interview for a South Korean TV show.

[@Libb-oleffub]

You didn’t mention that 95% of B12 supplements manufactured in the world is given to the animal farming industry animals that you are eating. So you are also taking supplements indirectly.

[@lindymerry38]

I expect that such practices would only be necessary in situations where animals are raised in inappropriate conditions & fed unnatural diets.

[@galadriel9473]

So what about the fish that live in the wild? Wildcaught fish is one of the most richest sources of b12, do wildcaught fish also take supplements? Also what about grass fed organic animals that are not given supplements? So youre saying the animals that dont get supplements dont contain b12? Youre a delusional vegan and eventually the harsh reality of veganism will hit you and youll be looking back how dumb you were for buying into this manmade religious cult

[@DiarioCarnivoro]

And you didn't mention that B12 is made by bacteria in their guts, so they don't really need those supplements anyway. Nothing else to say to dismiss Dr Mason's wonderful job?

[@davidcolman1766]

Wow, the ignorance is palpable.

[@iwnunn7999]

So is this clown totally against eating plants??

[@Artman1]

I like to give my food a fair chance to run away.

[@chanakyak6467]

QUACK ALERT

[@lindymerry38]

Your blindness robs you of the opportunity to receive a lot of valuable information.