Draftsmen S04E05 - Long Term Projects

[@Draftsmen]

We've got another episode on the way so be sure to subscribe and stay notified so you don't miss it!

[@pibyte]

Have you guys considered making an episode about 2d workflows? Like how to get from an idea to finished pieces. This is essential for bigger projects and there are so many approaches to it also in respect to the target medium (story, research, references, studies, thumbnails, sketches, POV-choices, staging, composition, gestures, action lines, proportions, forms, clear shapes, values, depth, rendering, color, effects, touchups ...). What to include .. and in what order? Would be fun to hear your inputs on that.

[@charnich]

@@pibyte Developing an Illustration - Draftsmen S3E07 this covers some of what you're after

[@pibyte]

@@charnich Thank you!

[@SnuubScadoob]

Never stop making more Draftsmen!!!

[@TheAhmed232323]

it is such a delight to have Marshall back , he's such an entertaining speaker and proko is alright too

[@alfiemarshall9224]

😭

[@haze7948]

😂 his name is stan and they complement each other so well

[@solo.3283]

"proko is alright" 😭 man doesnt know his name

[@Leonardo-bd3ik]

Where was he?

[@alfiemarshall9224]

@@Leonardo-bd3ik they didn't do podcasts for a while

[@OoziHobo]

I wish Marshall could live forever

[@JeremmyaDevin]

He will be that robot in Zima Blue.

[@peterpancik5176]

Great, great, great! Good info, inspiration, background sound for drawing, fun... You guys Rule! 😀

[@sergioojeda1073]

Please don’t stop this podcast ever!!!!

[@Draftsmen]

This is the last episode for now but we'll keep recording them as we find things to talk about

[@honey3762]

So delighted to have this show back my literal prayers have been answered!

[@AndrewMarloweTV]

Really enjoyed this Stan and Marshall. Great topics, conversations, and points had here

[@temotemi]

These chairs have been through a journey since the first Draftsmen podcast.

[@riverathebean]

TIME TO MAKE ART AGAIN! Draftsmen posted new episode!!!

[@junkdump2984]

God damn I love these goobers. This was a particularly captivating episode.

[@Grotesqu]

i love this podcast soooo much, i could watch forever & not get bored

[@SerenaMarenco]

There is no way that learning from Marshall can be nothing but a great experience. I can't wait.

[@sunset_opal]

Thank you so much for bringing Draftsmen back!!

[@Rice8003]

1:00:01 I feel you lol. Also Stan not feeling the constant phone checks. You could get the crew to look things up instead.

[@phoenixjames6126]

So happy to see you guys back at it. Love the Draftsman podcast!!!

[@jdsantibanez]

Great to have Marshall back!

[@JayKayV]

So glad you are back! Breath of fresh air!

[@jayedwin98020]

I've probably watched at least 95% of your "Draftsmen" shows. Just so you know, this particular show is one the best of your "Draftsmen" shows you've done, hands down! Thank You, Jim Dasher Spectrum Graphics Seattle metro.

[@andersdenkend]

Such a joy to listen to you two! Pretty solid life advice in every episode no matter if you're draftsman or not.

[@CaptainThunderGX]

Thank you so much for doing these again. There’s a lack of art-related podcasts like this and this show fills a valuable niche.

[@spintherella]

Love that you are podcasting again! Soooo relaxing to listen to you guys (most of the time😂)❤

[@patfixler7949]

I felt my soul rising, thumping, descending, as though one is in front of a great ravine and, at any moment, a man, might snuck up on me and push me into this ravine, my life, disappearing in an instant and that no one except this man will find out I had died or I am falling until my body is finally discovered. "I am falling? Yes, and will it end here? Without any ceremony nor peace? Before I can even say goodbye to my loved ones? Yes! My God! How can it end here-" before suddenly a loud knock is heard and I can only see darkness. In other words, very excited to watch this episode guys! Really nice to have some chatter in the background when I draw (Things just haven't been the same since you guys finish draftsmen a hundred year ago u,_u,), so really grateful to finally get more of these >^

[@pibyte]

Red - Yellow - Green ... Stan is drinking a traffic light.

[@dkmbstudio]

matcha keeps him going

[@jiji3750]

I've been rewatching the old ones for so long, excited for the new episodes!!

[@Jugbot]

Oh wow I was just revisiting the old episodes yesterday from S1! Its good to see that nothing has changed in 5 years lol

[@solo.3283]

So its stagnant?

[@Lobstrique]

so glad to see and hear you both :) and a really interesting and challenging topic love the way Marshall seems to have an asnwer with reference to a book, and Stan is the sketpic, trying to find holes in them and it creates a great dynamic

[@rosaegrene]

My artistic goal in life is to be crowned by Stan and Marshall, preferably levitating

[@tanishnaidu]

its... it's been so long. I've seen every episode at least twice now. thank you, I can finally rest

[@ndidgenous]

👌 Love these while painting 👍

[@Jessica13Moreno]

I was waiting for this soooo much!! I have watched the other episodes so many times! I love you guys, never leave us again

[@jeodraws2473]

Confirmed, Marshal has ops, don't worry marshal, we got you and standing by

[@estudiantedibujo5494]

Proko's comment reminded me of Erasmus Roterodamus thoughts on having kids, which is something painful the brain forgets after a while. Great episode.

[@jeremiahgallo1055]

Miss you guys. Thanks for uploading.

[@kiplingbassil]

In the midst of working on a few projects this is EXACTLY the video topic i needed today to stew on... thanks guys!! 😁

[@MarcHendry]

I definitely think it's better for students to do lots of small, but finished projects (2months tops) to gain a lot of experience and portfolio material fast. It's a common thing in student animation films, that the scenes you animated at the start of the year don't match the ones you did at the end of the year, because you improved so much over that time. At the moment, I'm doing a short film in my spare time while working as an animator, and it's taking years. The difficult thing about it is having to axe all my other home projects to make room for it, but I enjoy the time I spend working on it, which is the main thing for me

[@krishowes2330]

So glad youre back guys :)

[@joantorrez2465]

Thank you Stan and Marshall, i love draftmen

[@spectral_laughter]

babe wake up new draftsmen

[@SnuubScadoob]

I'm awake! I'm awake!

[@TheArtofKAS]

ANOther one.!!! I still haven't finished Elements of eloquence!! But this does remind me of the power of long term projects in general. Love that sometimes, you just have to give things time to develop. (the longer form stories i'm working on right now XD)

[@SnuubScadoob]

WE'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@heiispoon3017]

Thank you for the new episode!!

[@oliviajones4588]

It's too good to be true. Your back😭

[@pibyte]

WOHOOOOOOOOOO NEW EPISODE!

[@careywanabe]

This duo 🤣 I could listen to them talk about anything.

[@JamesJon1187]

Yaaaay! You guys are back!

[@neotheta3957]

Something funny happens to the audio around the end (~1h10min), it sounds like you go inside little containers. I enjoyed this episode a lot! Both of you have relatable qualities when it comes to projects. It's really motivational to see someone else (Marshall in this case) to have stated he is going to do a big project (the perspective course) and despite being joked about over the years of "when it's going to be done", you completed it as you said you would (I didn't doubt it but it hits different when it's really there now). The biggest enemy of my own projects is when other people belittle and joke that I will never complete them, it makes me inevitably think about the negative words while I do the project and it really sours the mood. I wish I could turn that around, complete things out of spite but that sort of energy is very short lived in my system. I guess there's another reason why not speaking about your projects can be good. I also really relate to the quality of Stan thinking "no" as the default and only saying yes when it's something that matters and can also be done. People often really dislike being told no, and it makes me often feel like I'm the only "inconvenient" one because I keep telling people no and they really dislike me for it. But it would haunt me way more to say yes to everything and not be able to deliver any of the promises, I would probably be paralyzed by anxiety, so being disliked is way less bad.

[@charnich]

there were a lot of airplanes flying during this recording (hence the shift in audio)

[@tripplejaz]

A great book for you guys to read together and review is Slow Productivity by Cal Newport. Tackles this exact topic with super practical advice and suggestions.

[@charnich]

Marshall does bring up that exact book in this episode :)

[@LanLance]

I thought you guys will upload your next episode next year, but here we are 🥺❤

[@ArtDadDraws]

NEW EPISODE YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[@jeriatrik]

i missed draftsmen!! welcome back

[@James-ip7zk]

Great conversation. I have done the proko courses I bought twice. I wish to return for more as soon as I can, buy I have son now and my free time was obliterated. It is a major task to study and practice, but I tried as much as I can to practice, even a little bit.

[@alexanderrodriquez8942]

Wish this was the very first episode ❤😮

[@joschuaknuppe5849]

As someone with quite a few long term projects I feel pandered to :3

[@darkodosen1025]

spiderman toy that looks like it's climbing the table is funny af XD

[@Cellardoor_]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyy 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@BaddeBadger]

When is Marshall going to release his childhood house plans!!!

[@mjasshertz7210]

The chapter at 45:45 is titled Art of Patients. I believe it's meant to be "Patience".

[@whistlepig64]

YES LETS GO

[@readytoplay2480]

В голос про ремарку "моча" 😂

[@ciucinciu]

6:40 i have a story about a more impactful short project than longer ones. I once saw a post of a duck seen from below, it looked just like that meme of Principal Skinner saying "Pathetic" where he had the dramatic lightning from below. So i made a quick digital painting of that duck with the same dramatic lightning and saying Pathetic, just for the giggles, took me about 1 1/2 hours, quickest painting i ever did in my life, posted it in the comments. I was surprised to to gather about 1k likes or so. Then someone told me to post it on Displate cause it's cool. I did and then forgot about it for a couple of months. One day i remembered about it and decided to check my displate shop. I made 70 bucks in that period, and then it quickly exploded to make about 10K in 4 months. 48k two years later to this day. To my frustration, that damn duck, made in about one hour, is selling more like 99% of the time more than anything i painted for weeks and months on end. I still love my Pathetic Duck but i wish more of my paintings would have at least 1/10th of that success. sheesh

[@alfiemarshall9224]

MOREEEE

[@wT_Nomad]

WAIT ARE YALL BACK BACK????!!!

[@internethistorytrash7464]

is the perspective course ready? I have heard about it in multiple draftsmen episodes, is it ready? I'm confused.

[@charnich]

it's on presale now! Starting properly in October

[@dizluanimated1170]

Yay

[@rehantdyr]

whats marshall's thing?

[@pibyte]

Wisdom.

[@randommcranderson5155]

he sings

[@DelectableDays]

Animal anatomy courses

[@randommcranderson5155]

I thought you guys had died.

[@Jcostelllo118]

What’s the painting from the thumbnail?

[@charnich]

The Coronation of the Virgin -Diego Velázquez

[@InesMachado-qk1fh]

Writting my thesis ... tell me about it

[@orlanequi7000]

Omg 😱

[@americo9999]

f adobe subscriptions

[@siteation15]

:D

[@mrnakomoto7241]

First

[@nicholasjagger6557]

I've asked you before very nicely not to use religious imagery as your covers for the podcasts on KZbin. Is your choice of Christian imagery because you are mindful of offending other cultures, but Christianity is fair game? I would agree that most of the images are kitsch and poor art, but to swap out the heads of God and Christ seems at least an error of taste. If you don't understand the basic point, you shouldn't be doing it, but if you set out to offend, I wonder why. Perhaps you can explain what you are doing.

[@DreamMistM]

why can't I put the draftsmen on notification ?