Dragnet | Ep169 | "The Big Bull"

[@edwardhuster8466]

Thanks so much for this Series.

[@rockstarvidyas100]

Love this channel. Thanks.

[@davidsigalow7349]

I'm 66 years old, and while I still recall the ads for the cigarettes of the 60s (L&M, Lucky Strike, Chesterfield, Winston, Marlboro, Old Gold, Kent, Philip Morris, Lark etc.), neither I nor any of my similarly-aged friends remember Fatima, except from these Dragnet re-runs.

[@ramenluver2098]

Wow that’s insteresting! I’ve started from episode one and I figured Fatima was the most popular in the west coast with how often the commercials were on! I really only am super familiar with Winston and Salem cuz I lived in Winston-Salem and a lot of Reynolds family history is there.

[@davidsigalow7349]

Maybe it WAS a West-coast thing; I grew up in the east coast. Baby-boomers of my generation still all the cigarette commercial jingles, as they played almost continuously on TV in the 50s -60s until they were banned. That's why it seems odd to me to not have known Fatima. Eventually, the sponsor shifted to its bigger brand, Chesterfield, for "Dragnet" while the L & M brand sponsored "Gunsmoke."

[@RewskOnTV]

Joe Friday mentions a pool hall/ billiards in this episode it still sits there at 2900 North Main St and Griffin Ave and the burger joint Dino’s burgers still operating.

[@larrygrebler5054]

Wow! Thanks for the info.

[@nellwackwitz]

That's awesome news! Thanks for sharing!

[@vincentventra6891]

great show .thanks for posting these episodes .

[@wandahall4435]

Thanks for posting these programs they are awesome

[@nativeroscoe64]

This is Frank's episode all the way. And, Joe's speech was powerful.

[@KororaPenguin]

"The definition of the true savage does not concern itself even with how much more he hurts strangers or captives than do the other tribes of men. The definition of the true savage is that he laughs when he hurts you; and howls when you hurt him." -- G. K. Chesterton

[@tirmyta]

According to Wikipedia, the Fatima brand was owned and manufactured by Liggett & Myers (L&M). Fatima was the best-selling cigarette brand in the US from 1910 to 1920. Chesterfield was acquired by L&M in 1912, and acquired by Philip Morris in 1999. The Fatima brand was phased out around 1980.

[@rongjohnson2448]

$.25 a pack

[@ericbass3349]

Jack Webb goes from singing the praises of Fatima to Chesterfield in the span of a week. Guess he'd rather switch than fight...

[@KororaPenguin]

Nasty piece of work, that Bull Bentley. Where's Escamillo when you need him? ;þ

[@fromthesidelines]

28:55- "GANGBUSTERS" alternated with "DRAGNET" on TV during 1952. When its producer, Phillips H. Lord, fell ill, due to overwork from overseeing both the radio and TV editions of "GANGBUSTERS" [for some reason, Jack Webb didn't have the same problem producing and starring in two versions of "DRAGNET"], the series was cancelled {the 17 episodes already produced were eventually syndicated as '"CAPTURED"}, and "DRAGNET" became a weekly TV series in January 1953.

[@heyoldman2003]

Jake Blues flashed a half a pack of Chesterfields to the Good Old Boys as his ID/ Badge .. yes he did 😎

[@jerrybomersheim2660]

Tty

[@-oiiio-3993]

Fatima was a dead brand by then.

[@wadechilds6671]

It's wise to smoke extra mild Fatima. 🚬☠️

[@KororaPenguin]

That statement was a lot more relative than Webb realized.

[@nostalgia6578]

It's wise to smoke extra mild Fatima? 🚬⚰️🪦☠️

[@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo]

Wonder why they dumped mild flavorful Fatima after 5 years of saying how great they were? Growing up I saw a lot more people smoking Chesterfields and Lucky Strikes than I ever did Fatimas, which I hardly remember seeing.

[@heyoldman2003]

Frank should have got out his old Thomson and left it for Fay .... 😮. Bring it on Bentley

[@heyoldman2003]

Funny to think of how much $$ they pushed Fitama with only to dump em for Chesterfields . They are both super strong cigarettes 🚬🤔

[@willc9235]

They were both made by the same company L&M.

[@rongjohnson2448]

Money talks

[@heyoldman2003]

And BS Walks 😎

[@-oiiio-3993]

So fickle.

[@nellwackwitz]

First Chesterfield ad!

[@TowGunner]

Safest cigarette ever made

[@heyoldman2003]

And no filter . Straights ...we called em chest busters 😆

[@nostalgia6578]

Were the doctors ignorant or bought off by L and M in the fifties? No throat or nasal irritation - yippee! WHAT ABOUT THE LUNGS, ASSHATS?🙄

[@solsolsolomon]

Bye bye, Fatima

[@-oiiio-3993]

So fickle.

[@RewskOnTV]

Though lady Fatima played a huge role in the Catholic eyes the Vatican sued L&M and ask for more more once the brand name became popular the courts dismissed the case then awarding the archdiocese millions which the tobacco changed its name to Lady Madonna the brand never recovered then was bought out by a larger tobacco co

[@Cat-rc5bp]

I like the episodes. Who give a rats ass about the cigarette commercials. It was the 50's. Next thing you know y'all be trying to defund Friday and Smith.

[@heyoldman2003]

Those Fatima ‘s must have been bad . They sure made enough sales pitches. Hey we will buy them back f your not truly satisfied.. yes they much have been something .. cough cough

[@fromthesidelines]

Fatima was the brand the series originally "pushed" during the first three years of Liggett & Myers' sponsorship (1949-'52). When they decided Chesterfield needed a boost after they ended their sponsorship of Bob Hope's and Bing Crosby's radio shows [on NBC and CBS] after the 1951-'52 season, they also decided Fatima just wasn't reaching its sales potential among smokers, and let that brand "slide", while concentrating on making Chesterfield a better-selling cigarette on "DRAGNET".

[@custer2449]

This was the one episode that isn't to be found on the web, yet without being on tv the impact isn't there. Frank Smith and his family are terrorized, and Ben Alexander comes through with a good performance that can't be shown in radio. At the end, Bull gets by Friday as he tries to escape. Frank Smith cold cocks him uncharacteristically as the gentler Frank Smith shows how to take care of his family. This was the best Dragnet and yet is nowhere to be found.

[@therose8521]

All this time I thought Jack Webb was a one trick pony, now he's trying to sell us on Chesterfield's. Right after I bought my first pack of Fatima's.

[@davidsigalow7349]

Check out Webb's earlier radio show, "Pat Novak For Hire." It's geat, and Pat Novak is very different from Joe Friday.

[@heyoldman2003]

@@davidsigalow7349 i have listened to many of Pat novac stories 👍🏼very cool and yes ….Pat is a little looser than Joe Friday 😎

[@chillydawgg4354]

Mmm...'moistening agents'

[@davidsigalow7349]

...and sugar!

[@wandahall4435]

Jack Webb is A Savage!!!

[@howardoller443]

NIN-COM-POOP.

[@custer2449]

too bad that the tv version is unobtainable as this was the best episode of them all.

[@nostalgia6578]

26:11 Joe can tell THAT informant to hold his hand on his butt if he ever asks for money again.

[@teresas8173]

Why wasn’t the informant charged with something? He gave a known dangerous criminal a cops private phone number. Why would an informant be given a private phone number?, they can just reach an officer at the office with info. I hope Frank got his money back, by any means necessary. Why was the informant covering for the Bull anyway? Money and cowardice. He was no good, asking Joe and Frank for money after what he did and after getting money from Bull.

[@Mike-pj1kv]

What happened to Fatima?!!

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[@heyoldman2003]

Must have been bunk smokes . They spent enough money telling everyone they were the best.

[@glenncox5695]

Their last episode was Thursday, Sept. 4, 1952. Replaced by Chesterfield on Sunday, Sept. 14, 1952.

[@craigdallas784]

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