Dragon Age - Battle at Ostagar

[@mattcoombes6945]

I remember playing this game and being like "sweet Duncan is gonna teach me all this cool shit, and Cailen is totally my bro!" and then 5 minutes later THEY ALL FUCKING DIED!!! That's like a Game of Thrones level twist.

[@shirshojyoti3472]

Dragon Age deserves a high budget GOT level TV show.

[@almamater489]

The game was actually inspired by GoT, but way back when there were just books

[@CptDavidGH]

@Leocorde Me too. There are a lot of similarities with that battle xD

[@HDBeredok]

@Leocorde except dragon age has better writing than what we got in this GoT finale :(

[@springheelzach812]

@@HDBeredok i came here to remind myself what competent strategy and writing looks like.

[@EldritchAugur]

That shot of Duncan finding out what happened right before he died is amazing. Bioware is known for their amazing writing, but I think this is one of the moments that proves they excel at visual storytelling as well.

[@EiskehleLP]

The books are nice too. They were the first one i've red so far and I finished all 4 (the 5th isnt finished in german yet) in 2 months - they all have around 350-500 pages.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

Right before EA stole its soul, you mean? Now Bioware kowtows to its finance-driven overlord.

[@EldritchAugur]

How Do Ya Like Me Now, Chucklehead? Well Mass Effect 2 was pretty good, everything after that was not so.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

***** Mass Effect 2 was when EA was still courting BioWare. It was playing nice until it got into her panties. ;)

[@Skumtomten1]

No doubt. I usually don't like cinematics in games too much, but the ones in Origins blew me aways. There are so many incredible moments in this short cutscene, and the soundtrack definitely does it's part, just epic.

[@smackedinthejaw]

For me this is truly one of the most amazing cut-scenes in video game history. The haunting music, the feeling of dread as the darkspawn amass and start moving toward the small band of defenders, the heroic charge of the King's forces against fearful odds...then the later scene with Duncan realising reinforcements aren't coming and seeing the King's forces getting wiped out. This scene really helps set the scene for the rest of the game.

[@Calmminded94]

smackedinthejaw That's exactly how I feel when I am watching this cutscene. None of the other games has something as epic as this,Great minds think alike :)

[@nicksalehi97]

+smackedinthejaw That moment when u so loyal to Origins that your profile pic is the pic of one of the berserk abilities. You sir, you are awsome.

[@smackedinthejaw]

Nick Salehi Much obliged!

[@darthrevan4748]

+smackedinthejaw "SOUND........(slight regret in his voice) The Retreat..." Duncan failed Maric but, avenged his son.

[@Lardon2]

Indeed! ;)

[@KenHunter]

Even after all these years....someone still cuts onions near me when Duncan takes that last look up at the tower. I think I need to do another DA:O replay soon.

[@ALTsapiens]

That's hilarious, I'm literally watching my spouse replay DA:O right now. And just got into a fight about DA2. MINDLINK

[@ALTsapiens]

And, he's right at that part.

[@KenHunter]

Oh no! What is the fight about? It can't possibly be over which one is better. DA:O wins in a landslide.

[@ALTsapiens]

He has a much more favorable opinion of DA2 than I do.

[@KenHunter]

Ugh...the game was so obviously rushed. The same dungeons were used over and over. I hate how they used "2" to lure in those that played DA:O. It wasn't a sequel, it was Dragon Age: Kirkwall.

[@TheDetective420]

Every time i play origins, I can never bring myself to forgive Loghain. FOR DUNCAN!

[@MrFantocan]

TheDetective TheDetective And Cailan.

[@The_Real_Maxajax]

TheDetective TheDetective Yes, the death of the traitor was one of the most fulfilling moments of DA: O.

[@Whoami691]

+TheDetective TheDetective Is it a Traitor to believe, TRULY Believe, you are doing the right thing for your nation, for your home, for its people. He believed to a fault that he was saving his home, saving his nation. That does not make him a traitor, it makes him loyal to his nation with terrible judgment.

[@MrFantocan]

Whoami691 Wow, ALL trators beleive they are doing the right thing, no matter the excuse, if some one backstabb you for money he will think he is doing right as you don't deserve the money... Loghain is a bitch powerhungry coward!

[@panxogantz4945]

+MrFantocan To be fair, DAI makes it pretty clear this is supposed to be a grey area: When you ask Solas about what he saw in the memories he found at Ostagar he says he saw a traitor and that he also saw a brave patriot doing a horrible thing to save his nation.

[@brd0]

If they ever made a movie of this game Sean Bean would be the only right choice for Duncan.

[@Whoami691]

Ben Rejström Oh yes, defiantly.

[@MrFantocan]

Ben Rejström Well they don't really look alike, but one thing is for sure, the death would be epic.

[@MrFantocan]

LightningSamus Fuck NO, Sean Bean is too cool to be that ashole Loghain, maybe tell the boy who did Joffrey Baratheon to be that crap trator. (both bitches)

[@MrFantocan]

LightningSamus No matter how many puppyes he saved before, no horoism makes up for the betrayal of Ostagar. He is the reason, the one to be blamed for the deaths of Cailan, Duncan, the Gray Wardens, all brave soldiers and true heroes fighting for the Ferelden army. And in consequence, he is also to blame for all the dead during the march of the Darkspawn, blamed for all the dead in Lothering and many other cities, all the dead in Denerim as well. So yeah he may have been good once upon a time a long time ago but I wish he died for the Orlesians, that would mean Cailan, Duncan and all else would be alive, also Loghain almost killed the PC in the Tower of Ishal, as he is the one who got the Darkspawn in it.

[@MrFantocan]

Haha, I will not read a giant block, nothing you say will redeem his betrayal, all those deaths ARE his fault!

[@VorchaVideos]

This game is like the perfect hybrid of a movie and video game. I get chills down my spine from literally EVERYTHING in this game. Though the single most epic moment is Duncan looking up at the Tower of Ishal and realizing that the reinforcements aren't coming.

[@LiveAndSound]

Too bad it's way too long for a movie. Unless they make it a 2-parts or 3-parts movie, and skipped the DLC. However, if one makes a video with the entire game, and deletes any scene including unimportant sidequests or random combat, it could be kinda like that. But then, what about the Warden? He/she doesn't speak at all.

[@Camaroni1000]

Yea it could be 6 movies in my mind. 1: becoming a grey warden 2: the battle of ostagar and lothering 3: red cliffe castle 4: ozammar 5: brecillian forest 6: the arch demon. Maybe there could be deleted scenes showing alternate ending and a TV show showing the side quest. This is just what I would want to see though

[@LiveAndSound]

Camaroni1000 Becoming a GW is actually rather short, so it can be put along with the Battle of Ostagar and Lothering. For the rest, howe about 2-hour movies, 1 for the circle and elves, 1 for the dwarves and anvil, 1 for Redcliffe, and 1 for Denerim and the Archdemon. But as a TV show focused on the side quests, it wouldn't be a good idea. It would be very boring. DA2 however would be a perfect TV show.

[@Camaroni1000]

Ah I see your point

[@nocturnalwolf8714]

I would make about 5 or 6 movies, 1. Origin/Ostagar/Lothering 2. Redcliff/Circle 3. Sacred ashes/Elves 4. Dwarves and Anvil 5. Denerim/Landsmeet and Arcdemon. 6. Possible DA Awakening movie

[@raimubito659]

When Duncan sees the beacon on, he realizes that you did not fail and it was Loghain ... the look says it all. As a game it is not just graphics. It breaks my heart. 5:11

[@wolfbatson7668]

Raimu Bito I always thought he was praying for them to get out alive looking at his expression was like please let those two survive

[@AlexLopez-vm7uq]

@@wolfbatson7668 LMFAO XD Duncans facial expression was not "please let those two survive" ...... it was more like "(See's tower lit) but if it wasn't the tower then,... Loghain, I'm gonna kill him if/when I get my hands on Hi-..... (Hurlock Axe swings)" R.I.P. Duncan

[@wolfbatson7668]

Alex Lopez I saw it as both because Incase they failed Duncan even said the best plans can go to shit if anyone was likely to survive it would have been alstair and the hero. Also I agree afterwards it might have been the shock of betrayal

[@brainlesscommunity]

yeah....i mean how could anyone let Loghain live after this? I guess only for the final blow if you dont do Morrigans ritual

[@naughtynoo-noo2818]

@@brainlesscommunity Well I let him live and in the awakening he departed to orlay. That was my choice

[@martinhamill8725]

"Sound...the retreat" The first time I heard Loghain say that I was like WHAT?!?

[@ScarletteCastle]

Wow, shit, just imagine all the headache that could've been avoided if loghain just let fuckin uldred send a magic flare.

[@Azaleanoir]

Cailan didn't refuse Orlais's offer for reinforcements. He wanted the Chevaliers to fight with his army at Ostagar. Loghain however made it clear he didn't want Orlais entering Fereldan, and that they WERE going to fight without them. Also, Loghain offered to have his own men light the beacon in the tower. It was fairly obvious that he was planning on betraying Cailan at this battle. He didn't count on Cailan overruling him and sending Alistair (his brother) and the Hero of Fereldan to light the beacon instead.

[@Vinicius9851]

You should play the game again man, first of all Longhain has all the forces, Teryns, Arls and the King army, they matched almost even in numbers by the looks of the torches, Cailan was stand only with the the Wardens at the Keep. Also the whole "Charge off the Keep for Ferelden" was Longhain plan. So in the end theres no excuses for Longhain retreat, he was planning that since the begin with no heroic intentions, ffs he even spread out the army to the whole Ferelden and let them die.

[@jacklebergshecklestein9359]

Martin Hamill weren't we all

[@ryder98307]

@Varga Julian "Why waste an entire army to defend agaisnt the Blight,when i can have the Darkspawn invade my country even further and kill thousands of innocent people and refugees"

[@mirandazapanda]

when king cailan yells “for ferelden!” i get shivers down my spine. this is literally the best cutscene in any video game ever. it makes me wanna cry, how epic this is.

[@MikkelMadsen]

Yes, agree. For me, this is right up side-by-side with Theoden's pre-battle speech in RotK.

[@afaultytoaster]

5:20 you forgot to strip the gear from your temporary companions! that's a good hundred silvers lost right there!

[@ChrisZukowski88]

No joke on the second playthrough I did just that! Right before the warden cup drinking the companions were stripped XD

[@dthejc]

@@ChrisZukowski88 I used to do that on my DVD version of the game, when I bought it again on Steam (for convenience) I figured they've patched it so the stuff automatically goes into your inventory. :)

[@kitsunefire1]

If I remember right, I THINK you get them in your inventory after the battle I know for Jory and Daveth, they give you their equipment after their failure at the Joining, but it's been years, so I don't remember if the people who helped you at the Tower of Ishal give you their gear lol

[@redpocketboy1839]

I would have all the achievements on this game if I would recruit Loghain, but I never will. FOR FERELDEN!

[@RainNStorm92]

Lol, same here :D

[@xiriusthesoulwatcher3955]

Y'know..... Loghain gets way too much flak for basicaly being a really apt warlord. I mean what else was he supposed to do? Charge in and die with everyone else, thus pointlessly dying alongside the last standing troops of the kingdom? For blighted Ferelden indeed

[@ostsweinen5240]

Loghain > Alistair

[@technokokos]

I dont really remember but did not he have most of the forces and thus plan would work if he would do what he was supposed to do? I hope i executed him back when i played it... i am sure i did not recruit him.

[@xiriusthesoulwatcher3955]

technokokos Consider that the darkspawn literally crushed through everything, and you actually need to gather a shitton additional troops to this "most of the forces" Loghain apparently has just to begin having the incling of a chance for victory.

[@АнтонЛогунов-ы5т]

I honestly love the shot of one of the soldiers hurrying to their positions pushing the Warden, especially since it is mirrored much later in the game, when, after the Archdemon is slain, one of Redcliff soldiers pursuing the darkspawn pushes Bann Teagan looking at Fort Drakon in a similar manner. When compared, these two show just how far our hero has come since the beginning of the game. At Ostagar, the shock and awe on Warden’s face say it all: the real epic action with powerful kings, legendary heroes, and proud nobles is down there, in the valley, and he can only glance at it while being sent on an errand, albeit an important one. In the Battle of Denerim, the proud nobles fight the delaying action with no greater purpose than give the Warden time to kill the Archdemon, and this time it is Bann Teagan who can only glance at the epicenter of the epic struggle but cannot influence it directly. The Warden has become as important in comparison to the powerhouses of Ferelden as they were once compared to him/her.

[@latexlieutenant]

Антон Логунов agreed, and very well said.

[@lanamaybug]

didn't notice this, thanks!

[@ziephel-6780]

that is great storytelling, and unfortunately lacking in present times

[@jakeworld4023]

This is the greatest cutscene in all of gaming history. For a cutscene to strike such emotion as this one does, makes it an artistic masterpiece.

[@Whoami691]

jakeworld Mass Effect Talis Death? Or Mordins sacrifice? Or The fleet battle with the reapers (while lackluster by ME standards it still rocks) Grunt fighting off the Rachni horde? Sorry but ME Rivals Dragon age, probably a little bit above it. Still I cannot fault BioWare. Fantastic company. Shame EA have castrated them.

[@jakeworld4023]

Whoami691 Seriously? Those ME scenes came straight out of the mind of a teenage boy.

[@Whoami691]

jakeworld Well many bioware fans will disagree. Is all I am saying.

[@aranecek]

Whoami691 Most of these things didnt had any emotions in it. Mordin marched to death like he was in hurry to kamikaze.

[@Calmminded94]

jakeworld Agreed :)

[@I_Rayne_I]

While Inquisition is miles better than DAII, it still doesn't hold a candle to Origins, in terms of the gripping, dramatic story-telling.

[@venomx99x]

dragon age origins was one of the games that will never have an equal.

[@EldritchAugur]

Inquisition needed more of a focus on writing and world building, the reason why Origins works so well, is because it's so charismatic about how it characterizes every aspect of the game. Inquisition seemed less inclined to develop the world and more inclined about making you pick up elfroot. Inquisition very obviously took inspiration from Skyrim and that's what worries me, Skyrim has seemingly endless beautiful landscapes that seem like they would be a joy to explore, except they aren't, because Bethesda doesn't give them any meaning. Strong writing is integral to RPG's, gameplay is worthless without some kind of meaning behind it.

[@I_Rayne_I]

***** Well said.

[@Tlevids]

***** I disagree - Skyrim's world is rich with lore and meaning: the Elder Scrolls series has been around for over 20 years and its accumulated volume of lore is phenomenal: most major locations you visit in the game have rich and complex histories and culture. I agree though on your point that DA:I did try and imitate Skyrim in its side content. But the main problem isn't that they tried to emulate Skyrim in the first place but that they tried and failed. Most of the game's side missions consist of highly simplistic quests that have nothing like the level of complexity present in many of Skyrim's side quests. Thankfully, DA:I was saved by its strong, cinematic main quest and interesting characters, though the primary antagonist was badly written (which is a big contrast to the supremely written Teyrn Loghain from DA:O).

[@72Armed]

***** Dragon Age inquisition was basically Bioware playing it safe, sticking to a tried and true model to win back their cautious audience after Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2. The story and writing I have major criticisms about, such as the shoehorning in of political correctness. There is nothing wrong with it being present, but it is constantly shoved in our faces at the expense of the writing quality. The story itself carried little to no weight in its MMO styled format. Not once did I feel like the world was fucked like in Origins or the drama of seeing your home tearing itself to pieces in DA:2. There were no true cutscenes or any indication your inquisition was actually fighting the antagonists forces ever aside from the siege of adamant. Its just "go here/fuck up enemy plans/go there/fuck up more plans" without the villain ever striking back. The characters saved it for me, and even then while diverse, I didn't form the same connections with the characters like I did in the previous two dragon ages. Nothing you did ever felt like it did anything, not to mention the kids book styled writing done for the villain. I mean come on, you hear Corypheus's name in almost every single second fucking line of dialogue. Another gripe was the complete removal of the unique worldly things that made Dragon ages world seem more alive. The oppression of elves, the seeming scarcity of dwarves, the vast number of NPC's you interact with being human, alienages and dozens more to say the least. I am serious when I say that it feels as if Inquisition would have been much better off if it wasn't a dragon age game. Remove the dragon age from the title and it becomes more acceptable, but otherwise its just a MMO styled RPG with an abstract Dragon Age paintjob. Lastly, I found that the writing for the Inquisitor in particular was rather bland. You never felt like the big scary inquisitor who is going to save the world, just a dude with fancy armour that just seems to have some people who show you shit and loves to pick up fucking elfroot and flowers. It lacked the soul of the previous two games, and in fucking origins the warden wasn't even voiced. Hell, this problem shone like a star blowing up when you see Hawke again.

[@Tlevids]

2:28 - Such an epic moment when the badly outnumbered but stouthearted army charge into the darkspawn horde in order to stop the blight from consuming the world.

[@LiveAndSound]

And fail, thanks to a certain paranoid someone refusing the help from Orlesian Grey Wardens because they were Orlesian.

[@Shagon89]

They are outnumbered and not up in the Fortress (which would be logical in this case), because they had to bait the Darkspawn into an attack, so that the main army can strike from behind and trap them in this narrow path. The plan was good. If only it had worked fully...

[@LiveAndSound]

Shagon89 It wouldn't have worked. They expected hundreds of Darkspawn, not millions. There were so many, they could be practically seen all over the Korcari Wilds from the bridge (Which, you know, it's very damn high), and those were not even a third of the Horde. They wouldn't have been able to flank them effectively, since they couldn't even see the end of the Horde. There were too many to sucessfully trap them like intended. And that's not bringing the Archdemon. The plan was good, they just underestimated the Darkspawn. It would've been better if someone didn't tell the Orlesian GW reinforcements to fuck off instead of helping them.

[@neilladriaansen]

***** I guess we will never know.

[@afaultytoaster]

***** loghain had enough soldier cannon fodder to feed the warden-commander into an archdaemon killing machine, he had enough to stop the blight!

[@CyberStarHawk]

I also came from the Dragon Age 4 trailer. How far this beautiful series has fallen from the days of 'For Ferelden'. The new game looks like it has completely lost its identity. This is an indescribable pain. Dragon Age: Origins, you remind us once again what an amazing game you are. Respect.

[@brainlesscommunity]

That look on Duncan´s face when he realizes that it wasn´t wardens who failed. In none of my playthroughs i didnt let Loghain live...i will never forgive hime for this

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

Why? Loghain made the right choice here. It was too late to charge in. By the time the signal came, most of the soldiers in the ruins would have been dead already. Had Loghain charged in according to plan, he would be risking _thousands_ of fresh soldiers just to save _hundreds_ who might be too injured to fight another battle. Worse still, they would have achieved *nothing* because killing ten thousand darkspawn does absolutely nothing to stop the Blight - the only way to win is to kill the archdemon behind it.

[@nordicgaming5429]

@@brahmantyoihsan5938 And who’d do you think would be able to kill the Archdemon? All the Wardens that were at the frontline, including Duncan, died, with only the hero and Alistair surviving only to have Loghain blame the Wardens of betraying King Cailan. You Honestly expect a normal army of Ferelden to be able to fix everything after this? At the very least, he should have let the Wardens from Orlais enter Ferelden, rather than stopping them at the border. Normal men with swords can’t beat back an entire Darkspawn Horde without reinforcements.

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

@@nordicgaming5429 *Loghain had no way of knowing that a Warden is needed to kill the Archdemon - not when the Wardens kept secrets even from their own recruits.* Alistair had been a Warden for at least six months he didn't know about the Joining formula, let alone the Ultimate Sacrifice. "We're the only ones who can kill an Archdemon, because our Joining gave us the ability to do so." Was it so hard to say those words? It won't reveal any secrets like the Joining fatality or the Ultimate Sacrifice.

[@firaxis5050]

That shot at 2:34 gives me goosebumps every time. Such an epic and tragic scene.

[@VorchaVideos]

It's nowhere near as tragic as the shot at 5:10.

[@Tlevids]

firaxis5050 Agreed, I think it's also awesome that Ferelden - a nation generally looked down upon by its wealthier and more powerful neighbours - is fighting bravely to end a huge threat to the entire world.

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

firaxis5050 if only loghain hadn't retreated like a damn coward...the king and duncan maybe would've lived to see the blight's end

[@ThunderingSkies-w8h]

@@warbossgrotsmasha23 BioWare has confirmed at the time that if Loghain had moved in, they would still not have enough forces to stop the Blight at Ostagar. As a strategist he made a wise move not to send soldiers to their deaths. Maybe from a certain point of view it was a cruel move to leave the King to his death, but if he had died along with what remained of the Fereldan army there and then, I believe Denerim would have fallen no matter how many allies Hero of Ferelden gathers

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

@@ThunderingSkies-w8h he was an opportunist, he left the king to die so he could take command of the nation, yeah you're right about what you said but that doesn't make loghain a hero

[@CheiftanLynx]

You can really see the care they put into this cutscene, it is just stunning every time I watch it.

[@MikkelMadsen]

All the small details makes this cutscene great. Like the veteran soldier gently, but firmly, making his younger comrade stay in formation. The music fits the mood perfectly as well. And then of course: "ARCHERS!!....HOUNDS!!....FOR FERELDEN!!"

[@sammyshehole]

At the beginning, when the darkspawn horde first emerges, you see the look of "what the fuck have we gotten ourselves into?" on Cailan and Duncan's faces when they see the horde was probably much more massive than they expected.

[@bluegeniusw1186]

I came here to forget about what i just saw.

[@ОлегТурчев-ц4ш]

We all did

[@alexanderfuchs3321]

still cant believe these are from the same studio

[@kake1604]

Cry about it

[@ОлегТурчев-ц4ш]

@@kake1604 we do

[@kake1604]

@@ОлегТурчев-ц4ш that's why I said it.

[@LordSlongo]

Probably the only good thing about Duncan’s death in battle. He didn’t live to see what Dragon Age would become.

[@coraline3767]

Oh Maker, the Inquisition moments is not staying even close with this memorable scene

[@tuantran-me9nz]

yeah this still one of the best cutscene i ever seen in a game ever

[@AlexGardener8]

When I first saw Loghain, I had a feeling he was a bad guy

[@fabledorchid8410]

Yeah, he kinda gives off that villain vibe.

[@paulinaree1164]

i read the first book in the series for this franchise, the stolen throne, about King Maric and his rebellion against the Orlesians and Loghain was a very good person. He just thought Maric would lead them to destruction.

[@Phlebas]

But he looks so trustworthy with that permanent sneer on his face!

[@agreeable-youth]

he actually isn't "evil"

[@Shagon89]

Well, Loghain was very mean and betrayed the King, but some argue, that he could do this to save the rest of the army, since this was not a simle Darkspawn raid, it was more like a full scale invasion led by Archdemon...

[@colins3063]

HBO needs to pick this up after GOT and make the dragon age story a series. It is just too good

[@nicksalehi97]

You dont want that. Let Origins be this. The legendary game and story it is. HBO and other companies will just ruin it.

[@juanlaise1059]

@@nicksalehi97 HBO did good with GOT. D and D are the ones that messed up the script. In terms of casting, direction and visuals, HBO is great.

[@nicksalehi97]

@@juanlaise1059 Dont. Ruin. It.

[@gau3463]

No 2 and inquisition are trash

[@nej5201]

@@gau3463 Are you sure about that.

[@Thaslav]

Had to come here to heal my aneurysm after seeing the veilguard trailer.

[@ОлегТурчев-ц4ш]

Same.

[@legsusmaximus6854]

Wut de fok is a veilguard ?

[@ellie7200]

Ya I'm still not over Duncan's death

[@Vartrex5]

I can't bellieve it's been 5 years...

[@eldarlrd]

Vartrex5 It's been 6 years now...

[@ermian1268]

+Pashazade Eldar It's been 7 years now...

[@Crusade11722]

It's been 8 years now...

[@bingo2433]

8 years feels insanse

[@Quirrel]

And still best Dragon age :D

[@imaginaimaginar7663]

This is Dragon Age, the series die with Origins and Awakenings The Dark Spawn looked like dangerous demons instead of malnourished orcs and the characters had SOUL RIP o7

[@Iamverybald]

I was playing Dragon Age Inquisition and then I said "fuck this" and went back to Origins. It truly is an amazing game.

[@artimuos903]

When Darkspawns were real scary not zombies or gorillas.

[@blazzered2]

This battle is like a combination of Helms Deep (Lord of the RIngs) and the final battle in Braveheart.

[@KaisMan605]

Yep. One of the best cut scenes ever. BioWare has amazing cut scenes. Gives me chills. Hate for Loghain is real...

[@vicount3944]

+Ace132 George thought his whole story already . What you're saying is stupid .

[@pendraco2000]

@Bann Teagan gee, that doesn't sound Biased or anything :P

[@eonmark847]

Anyone here after that poop they called Dragon Age: Veilguard? What a good games Bioware once did.

[@MrMagic8000]

Yeah, I needed to cleans my eyes.

[@HeirofAether]

Veilguard itself IS a good game, and one of the better DA games, imo.

[@Professor_Mitchell]

RIP Peter Renaday (Duncan's VA). You fought well.

[@sandysushi591]

Not gonna lie, I cried so hard when Cailan and Duncan died the first time I played this game, such an impactful cutscene.

[@amarillo315]

This scene and even just the whole Korcari Wilds/Ostagar part of the game is one of the most epic parts of any video game for me. I almost want to go back and play Origins just for that.

[@kelcapiral5301]

amarillo315 why not?

[@tannerhall3586]

Got to be the most legendary cutscene in gaming.

[@Spiketrooper]

love everything about this scene but let's be honest we all shed a tear or two hearing the dogs yelp in pain ;(

[@YoungMrBlue]

Rest in peace mabaris

[@WillsB1985]

I love that they show your custom made player character in such an epic cut scene. It's a small detail that creates a ton of engagement with the player and makes you feel like you really are involved in this war and are part of this world.

[@bloodytroll9626]

EXACTLY! Glad to know it occurred to someone else too

[@dampyr11]

You understand something fucked up in videogames when a in game cut-scene 15years old is still the best cutscene ever made. It's sad and, at the same time, it's cool to be young when videogames just didn't mean "60 fps"

[@puttymon]

This Cinematic>Dragon Age 2

[@harmonicajay91]

Hell yeah.

[@uchihamadaracz8387]

are you drunk ? this is from DA 1 dude , you dont know DA ? lol :D

[@puttymon]

Uchiha MadaraCz Where, at what point in my comment, did I say that this cinematic is from DA2? Maybe it is you who is drunk.

[@uchihamadaracz8387]

This Cinematic>Dragon Age 2 , yes i see , you say it

[@Trendydwarf]

Uchiha MadaraCz He's saying that this cinematic is better than the whole of Dragon age 2

[@ChkthDeats]

This cinematic event set standards the second game can't reach.

[@inumi2235]

The 1st game had an amazing story, and set ammo for further titles, the 2nd was also fun, and much less difficult, but had a very petty story for half of it, the other was also amazing, but you half to play to get there. The 3rd was probably convieved before 2, but needed some characters to appear early and yadee da. It is still a good game tho. Basically, Dragon Age is an epic series, with aawe inspiring heroes, and scumbag villans. You can make very interesting friends foes. You can be good or evil. And its your story. I love it. EA might charge a lot of money, but theres no deneying that they make good games.

[@williamguyton349]

@@inumi2235 Bioware makes good games. In my eyes, EA takes already great game series and turns them into cash cows that are husks of their former glory. examples: Star Wars Battlefront Dragon Age II (Not saying it's a bad game, but compared to Origins....no) Mass Effect Andromeda I have more, but these are the worst cases, the big reasons I hate EA (and I'm a pretty easy going person, it takes a LOT for me to say that I hate something)

[@pendraco2000]

this Cinematic set standards 95% of games period can't reach.

[@egorkagamechannel5035]

Im here after Veilguard announce. Just look how good it was and this shitshow that they doing right now.

[@Sean-A]

Love origins, this video also shows all that "dragons age was never that dark or bloody" crap people are saying is just bullshite.

[@almamater489]

They never knew what was coming, and the sheer terror of them realizing they're doomed is just brilliant

[@sushanalone]

DA1 was visceral, it was touching, it gave you a path of vengeance but with choices to deliver retribution or forgive for the greater good and the repercussions of both paths. That is why DAO>DA I and DA2

[@dsambernardo]

13 years later, still here watching this epic moment. 16/08/23 3:00 am after work.

[@donniebrasco881]

R.I.P. Cailan

[@Ultimaton100]

Varga Julian Calain is the king who was crushed by that darkspawn ogre. Loghain is the traitor who left everyone to die.

[@pendraco2000]

@@Ultimaton100 you mean the idiot. Duncan wanted to be nice to him... but honestly... Cailan was a fucking moron for his tactics.... should've either called his uncle's forces in as well, waited for the Orlesians, or actually listened to the Teyrn. I mean, I hate Loghain too, but the guy DID mastermind taking the ENTIRETY of Ferelden back from the Orlesians, who're from an empire that's like.. what.. twice the size of them? You can't say the guy doesn't know war.

[@Ghostmite]

Its funny how great this battle still looks after 13 years, man, this game was something else.

[@controlplusc27]

The game is so fking well-optimized, too. I could play it in my Celeron Potato Pc with medium setting

[@operationspark3636]

Who's here after the Veilguard?

[@rhysjones9870]

The tone shift this series is suffering is heartbreaking 😥

[@craigybhoy94]

'For Ferelden!' For the next few seconds, the music, the scene and the action going on. It was perfect...

[@miloDiScorpion]

THIS SCENE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DRAGON AGE INCLUSIVITY VEILGUARD

[@Mauntium]

I'm really looking forward to Inquisition, but from what I've seen so far from it, this dark fantasy theme, the seriousness, this atmosphere (with this brownish color theme) is gone forever. It was sacrificed on the altar of flashiness, radiant color theme, action orientation and a bit of airy-fairiness. Thankfully, according to the reviews, everything else in Inqiuisition is great.

[@bclinguist]

The Darkspawn were what cemented the tone of the first game. There was a dark, sober maturity to it all: stop them, or the world dies in a tide of blood. They were relegated to minor nuisance in the next two installments, and those games' respective villains don't hold a candle to them.

[@amarillo315]

bclinguist Exactly. It's why I love the darkspawn in Origins. Which is why I'm hoping the next game revolves around the next blight with darkspawn once again terrorizing the land.

[@SepiRRotH89]

r.i.p. Too bad they forgot about the beginning of the series about what made it so great in the first place

[@Whoami691]

bclinguist They take time to rebuild. Two blights in 10 years? Where are the grey wardens to stop them? In DA: I the Grey wardens (SPOILER ALRET) are tricked into sacrificing themselves - For the most part anyway.

[@Mauntium]

+Peter Feher Wow, thank you for the upvotes and responses! I finished the game a few weeks ago, so I can post my opinion of DA:I. It was good, but it was also bleeding from several wounds. Mostly technical ones. I started playing months after the release, in hopes of avoiding them, but with no avail. First, bugs everywhere, and the graphical ones were the least of the problems. Companions frequently froze in combat, where I had to give a "jump" order to 'unfreeze' them, NPC-s glitched through obstacles and/or teleported; if the game didn't like where I casted a spell, it just teleported me elsewhere, and these happened frequently. (Or was it just my copy?) Second, the tactical camera was terrible, I won't even start saying why, if you played the game, you know already. But the game itself was complex, huge, and calling for you to explore it. The lore is still there, plus we got a crafting system, and I could go on and on, as this game had a lot of content. 7/10. Without the technical problems it could've been a 8.5/10, so in my opinion it still wouldn't have been as good as Origins, mostly for the reasons I wrote in the main comment.

[@sefakaraoglu1997]

Came here after Veilguard

[@corvir4]

King Cailan, Sir Duncan - Rest in peace our FRIENDS! This cut-scene is a real art, truly memorable.

[@mitrooper]

"its amazing what bioware can do, you know duncan for about 1 - 2 hours and you feel really bad when he dies, bioware can get you really attached to characters" Agreed, that's because they have good writers, and the Bioware characters feel alive, to me anyway. I really think that giving a voice to the main character in the sequel is a good thing, if your character has a voice, instead of being some kind of mute, like it's now, the main character will aslo feel more alive...

[@Birdseed99]

It may not mean much to people now with how graphics and the technical ability of games has advanced but this scene was so epic at the time. Felt like the gamer version of helm's deep.

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

Imagine if the dogs just killed all of the Darkspawn 0_0

[@ricsigabor7712]

Duncan literally facin death always gets me. So cool. The best Dragon age ever

[@blyatt]

If you read "The Stolen Throne", you have such a different outlook on Loghain.

[@224224josh]

id have a better out look of him if he had expressed any sorry for leaving his best friends son to die on a battlefield. the game just gave the impression he was power hungry. He needed more emotion besides angry old man who hates orlais

[@MFenix206]

@@224224josh you only see his regrets and self-hatred if you recruit him.

[@RopeDrink]

@@224224josh That's kinda the point. He believed it was the right call - and technically, it was. The archdemon wasn't present and there was no guarantee that charging would have won them the skirmish to begin with. Cailan had no reason to lead the charge other than his fantasy of a heroic death 'ending the blight' (that they couldn't end there in the first place). To make it worse, you only discover Cailen's own ambitions in Return To Ostagar, so he gets to be a martyr and Loghain the villain. What followed was Loghain's ignorance of how a blight actually worked, trying to kill the only group who could properly an archdemon (and all the rest).

[@bethancox4218]

Just started another play through of this game yesterday, this cut scene still gets me ever time, even after my 50th+ time watching it.

[@DanielRowley-jt5pp]

Это игра моего детства. Когда я впервые увидел эту битву, меня до мурашек пробирало! Я перепроходил эту часть около 60 раз в детстве! До сих пор считаю это лучшей битвой

[@micheledellaira4306]

5:08 ...that moment always gives me the chills, how Duncan gives a last look to the top of the tower of Ishal, like he's thinking "I'm ready to leave this world..you two are our only hope, and I know you shall not fail".

[@eusouocarameuirmao]

"Even had loghain's men not turned their back on us, the darkspawn were too many. Even Cailan,for all his bravado,knew there would be no victory at Ostagar" ~Elric Maraigne, Return to Ostagar

[@NCMonefaith]

Except Orlais wanted to help then and there but Loghain screwed that up too. We would've had more help.

[@teyrncousland7152]

@@NCMonefaith Orlais did not want to help, it wanted to conquer and exploit the blight in its favour.

[@jag0wnsu]

Words cannot describe how much I love this game. One of my all time favourite rpg game, alongside with Witcher 3!

[@MrFantocan]

Fucking Loghain... Cailan was a great King, and Duncan was a great Warden. I can never let Loghain live after this. Rat bastard.

[@fatluckypotato4955]

This game was so ahead of its time

[@benchmark_buddy]

this is my childhood game and one of the best game I've ever played. Hope they make a re-make for this.

[@authorofgriz]

I'd buy a remake, though it's mostly because half or all of my controllers are in bad or kinda bad shape.

[@johnnyzarizony868]

The first and the last good dragon age game.

[@Whoami691]

Spoken like a true self entitled brat who can't see how amazing DA:I was....

[@johnnyzarizony868]

Hahaha good one, you almost got me here. The only amazing thing about DA:i is how it got GOTY award, maybe not even that since we all know that game awards ain't shit. Gotta admit, bards song were cool, but that's all this game had to offer. PS. I wouldn't even know about your reply, but notifications are back and now i can participate in futile internet arguments.

[@namekman01]

i liked awakening.

[@johnnyzarizony868]

Yeah but it still was only an game expansion.

[@AlexZebol]

Standalone, if I am ot mistaken.

[@dragonlord4643]

you know what, Dragon Age is one of the rare RPGs were Armor for Women is really Armor and not Armored underwear lol

[@thejohnhopkinscompany9599]

Excluding the Dalish armour...

[@MFenix206]

@@thejohnhopkinscompany9599 yeah i hated all the leather armors.

[@Hjalmar_an_Craite]

In Inquisition they even amke fun of those skimpy armour, you can find a corpse with chainmail bikini in storm coast XD

[@MrMcp1995]

Cailan: Hey, I just got this brilliant idea father in law. Loghain: Wonderful. I hope it isn't like your other 'brilliant' ideas. Cailan: How about instead of using this massive fortress we have at our disposal to negate the Darkspawn's numerical advantage with towering walls and narrow chokepoints, we meet them on the open field where they can easily outflank and envelop our forces with their nearly infinite tide of savage and blood thirsty monsters! Loghain: You're a fucking idiot. I'm taking my troops and leaving you to die. Seriously though. Cailan was an idiot.

[@alexbill1000]

He was naive.But Loghain's withdrawal was catastrophic for Ferelden.

[@thegreenassassin553]

Cailan's forces were getting slaughtered long before the signal was lit. By the time that happened, it was far too late. While Loghain's other actions are horrible, his retreat as Ostagar was understandable.

[@DATskorge]

+alexbill1000 I am of the opinion even if loghain went in they probably still would have lost. Loghain was a dick but he was an experienced pragmatist.

[@alexbill1000]

DATskorge Correct.But what about when he sent a poisoner to poison Arl Eamon? Yes his withdrawal from the Ostagar battle was a clever move but king Cailan is, well was, a symbol of morale for Ferelden. He could have rescued him and then flee. He did many things that point him out like a traitor. He was thinking for the good of ferelden without thinking its people.He waited for the dark spawn at Denerim while the whole land was on fire.Because of him Lothering will never be civilized again.Because of him so many died and many faced him as a threat because he left the king to die. Cailan was naive and fool to believe that he could defeat the evil but he didn't deserve to die like this. The whole story proves that Loghain went crazy after Ostagar. He was selling his own people as slaves to the Tevinter for money. He left some soldiers to look out grey wardens and not to protect the civilians or at least evacuate them? He poisoned arl Eamon while he could explain him and perhaps convince him to talk to Cailan? He triggered a civil war and let the civilians outside the Denerim to the Maker's mercy. He was thinking for the good of the land but instead he destroyed it.

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

cailan was an idealist not a strategist, he should've left war planning to his capable father in law and listen to him more often and also fuck loghain who was a narrow minded fool by thinking he could've taken the spawn on his own while throwing the country in a civil war and betraying his king

[@strawberryshower1175]

I am sorry, Duncan, old friend. You have died in vain. Rest in piece...

[@romanus7258]

Came from DA4 trailer. Why did this end like that?

[@iVictimizeYou]

5:08 My honest reaction.

[@nicksalehi97]

This whole battle scene pretty much describes how dragon age went from good to bad. "Darkspawn coming out of the forest and the kings army standing ready to fight no matter what" The darkspawn being the new generation of dragon age and every other shit to come. And the kings army representing Dragon age origins. Final scene of the battle. "The end is near, soon it will all be over. Dragon age 2 is upon us. And blablabla then came inqusition giving us a good story and lalalala but not much else memorable except for the open world. Dragon age Origins, you will be remembered. Even though I played you yesterday.

[@zeezoldyck1924]

Dragon age 2 didn't have a lot of development time and was rushed, inquisition is their first time going open world and they tried to appeal to casuals, they've already noted a lot of the mistakes in inquisition like the mmo quests so i think da4 may surpass or at least equal origins based on them learning from their mistakes and having more time to make it

[@ErtaiCZ]

If there ever will be DA4 (And gods do I hope so)

[@nicksalehi97]

hopefully they do Zeeshan, hopefully they do.

[@Whoami691]

Oh yea because 2 blights in the space of a few years DEFIANTLY wouldn't have bitches like yourself crying about shit.... But please continue.

[@nicksalehi97]

Oh look. A unnecessarily aggressive person. What a sight to behold.

[@bakenator7420]

Am I the only one who gets the strongest emotions when the basically send all the war hounds to be slaughtered? I understand the other things happening are also important but when you hear a mobari hound die it's just heartbreaking...

[@Bek359]

Man, the setup in the first minute of this is so great. The music, fidgeting nervous people, rain, etc. just completely convey the idea of "nothing good is going to happen here, this has 'failed last stand' written all over it".

[@jaffarebellion292]

The Helm's Deep of gaming. Both in narrative and emotional impact.

[@user-vb2jr4vh6d]

I've watched this scene a thousand times and I've only realised now that Duncan jumps like 20 feet in the air when he goes to stab that Troll. He must truly put in an almighty leg day session at the gym.

[@MrSyn64]

This is one of my favorite scenes in gaming

[@imaginaimaginar7663]

I want to go back when Bioware used to make games instead of gender propaganda...

[@caramelelo]

despite the dated graphics the other games couldn't beat this scene, now imagine it with today's graphics, sheesh. . .

[@KazgarothUsher]

I hope these cut scenes won gaming awards. Anyone know if they did?

[@maruwatchesyou8281]

Dunken and cailan's deaths are where real men cry

[@AdeptKing]

Man this takes me back. It was so epic playing this for the first time. Man though the thing that sucks about what happened to Cailan and Duncan is that the plan actually probably would have worked if Loghain didn't decide to betray him. Plus the other country, Orlais was actually going to send aid to Ferelden.

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

It wouldn't have worked. By the time the signal was lit, most of the Grey Wardens and the King's force would have perished already. The Hammer and Anvil strategy would have failed because the "Anvil" had been broken. Waiting for Orlais' reinforcement was not an option, because: 1. First and foremost, the darkspawn would not wait for them to be ready. The reinforcement would never have made it in time for the battle of Ostagar. 2. There would not be any trust or cooperation between the two armies, given their recent history in the Fereldan Occupation and Rebellion. 3. Orlais may use this opportunity to invade Ferelden again, despite the ongoing Blight. 4. Accepting the reinforcement means Ferelden would be heavily indebted to Orlais. Refusal to pay this debt means Orlais would have casus belli to restart the war, and Ferelden would lose any support or justification for the next rebellion.

[@originzful]

Still one of the best cinematic in game history..... Damn you EA

[@NebirosVT]

Having played Inquisition, which is awesome, I feel like the characters in Origins look far better than in Inquisition. Sera; wicked funny, but I'd rather sleep with my horse.

[@daywalker910i]

Bioware before EA. On a whole different level.

[@adeafmute5462]

I never played a dragon age game before this and once this part began I literally got goosebumps lol. For a cutscene made in 2009 I’m really impressed even though the tactics are kind of hilarious but it was still amazing.

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

The tactic itself was not bad, it's the execution that went terribly wrong. They were supposed to stand their ground and lure the darkspawn into a killzone. Loghain would then deliver the decisive blow with his men while the enemy is trapped between the two forces and the fortress wall. Simply put, it was a "Hammer and Anvil" strategy. Unfortunately, they made some fatal mistakes. Not only did the defenders charged forward and away from the fortress wall, the Wardens also failed to light the beacon in time. By the time the signal came, most of the defenders would have died already; their "Hammer and Anvil" strategy would not work because the "Anvil" had been broken.

[@GattsBerserkArmor]

Amazing cutscene and soundtrack.

[@alfonsklapa3353]

This is how you do a battle people and get folks invested into the game and story.

[@Devilicious.]

Still gets me. Truly a masterpiece.

[@GloomEater]

God, this intro will always be so amazing. My favorite part has always been where the one soldier is starting to panic and starts to break formation. Really shows how scary darkspawn can be as well as some of the emotions people feel when a battle is close at hand.

[@WesternInfantry]

Love the part where one soldier tries to retreat through fear and his fellow soldier rallies him

[@DDarkNut]

After 12 years... Fuck Loghain

[@AIGCB]

Just going to point it out. Charging against the horde was really a stupid idea. Much smarter to hold out while grouped together so the horde couldn't just group around the soldiers.

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

They were led by an idiot king who insisted on fighting on the front line despite having no heir. A king. Without heir. Fighting on the front line.

[@davidlea-smith4747]

In 15 years we went from this masterpiece to lectures about transgenderism in its sequel. Civilizational decline at its worse.

[@HeirofAether]

It's far from a masterpiece. The story is alright, it's generic epic high fantasy no different than other rpg franchises. The combat is absolutely atrocious. The only thing actually good about Origins is the characters. Veilguard has the best combat out of all 4 titles, a decent story, and fun engaging characters.

[@AkuGMC]

Here after DRAG on AGE Veilguard.