Dragon Age The Veilguard Impressions From SGF - Luke Reacts

[@deathsdoor07]

At least the black guy doesn't have the Killmonger haircut.

[@MohdAsif-Alpha]

😂😂😂😂

[@variobunz]

Just wait for the character customizer.

[@Darkeus1]

@@variobunz That is fine as long as it is mandatory lol.

[@ewjiml]

Instead of Killmonger haircut, they had stereotypical Ken haircut. Super creative.

[@keagandeal3475]

@ewjiml I don't know why but I get some miles from spiderman vibes lol. Could atleast give the character a famn beard. He looks like a child and sounds like a 30 year old man

[@DiplomacyAndWar]

The biggest takeaway from this is I noticed the lack of dark fantasy vibes and no health bars for companions and no control over them. That indicates that it will probably be like Mass Effect where you can tell them to use abilities but cant actively assume control.

[@Ethan-lq4nt]

I would like to see a video with you and your wife talking about the new dragon age and what you both think since shes a big fan.

[@Brainwashedgoat]

He is clearly a paid sponsor lol

[@foxx9555]

@@Brainwashedgoat Yep, whole video had this vibe... like he really tries hard to not criticize this game... therefore I don't want to watch his wife talking about this game, because why? Haha...

[@MIICAH2]

@@Brainwashedgoat because he didn't say it was shit and was leaning more towards it being a positive game. You think he's paid?? Bro got the tinfoil hat on for this one.

[@TheRealCaptainLavender]

@@MIICAH2 for a guy who's whole brand is 'I'm a skeptic and you should be too', it seems VERY SUS.

[@MIICAH2]

@@TheRealCaptainLavender you can be a skeptic and still show praise to something you actually might like. It’s not like he’s giving it a straight up 10

[@KK-qs2kq]

The demons have been eating neon lights for 10 years.

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

So thats why neon lights are a dying art!

[@euroking1337]

Hahahaua why is this so funny

[@TwistedwithPower]

Have a look after the 2.05 (in the gameplay tease) there appears to be more traditional fire like designed demons. I kinda like the neon pride demon from a combat perspective. Has a faster movement so I'm wondering what kind of challenge it'll be on an Insanity diff 🤔

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

I think they look cool

[@insomnia3454]

There are normal ones too so im guessing the "neon" demons are like that for a reason that is going to be explained in the game

[@grantlarsson9173]

I mean my first impression was dragon age Mass Effect Style.

[@klavicus2276]

yeah mine too ppl on twitter seem to not like that comparison

[@chrissoclone]

Gives me a Deja vú, we said the same about DA2 already.

[@ShikaRoddy]

Sort of, with combat lifted from DND dark alliance

[@carpenoctem]

Mass Effect combat was always pretty fun. Just needed more fluidity. I don’t like that even basic enemies are complete bullet sponges, though.

[@insomnia3454]

Yep same! it gave me mass effect and dragon age 2 vibes and the visuals remind me of Hogwarts Legacy kinda

[@chrissoclone]

Man, I don't know if I like that take... "it doesn't want to be BG3, it can't get there anyway" - Dragon Age Origins once was THE Baldur's Gate 3 of 2010, deep, complex, tactical, a storymonster with decisions and consequences, tactical depth and everything we now associate with BG3, and it was for a long time THE mother of modern cRPGs, pretty much until BG3 dethroned it. Hearing now that it can't be as good as BG3 anyway so it shouldn't even try and cater to it's own little niche is really sad, not even taking into account that this studio once made BG1 and 2. I think every fan of Origins was secretly dreaming to see them go exactly there again one day, make an instant classic once more like DA:O was. Instead we got button-awesome, and that was exactly because they wanted to appeal to a wider audience outside their original fanbase, to the point where this is now what many people associate with the series. Honestly, they shouldn't share the same name, Origins and the other 2 are completely different genres. Maybe that name change would help old fans to get over it. Yeah, fans have to accept that Bioware went that route with DA2, but you shouldn't blame them for being sad they'll never get Origins again. Imagine Larian would make a Baldur's Gate 4 and 5 now and both would be linear action games with a dialogue wheel and flashy JRPG combat - yeah, you have to accept it I guess, but be happy? I doubt, new players would come and play but we'd miss BG3 forever too and had to "get over it".

[@EatThePath-7]

Thank god the people at Larian make games they themselves would want to play as RPG fans and not whatever caters to the idea of a 'wider audience' some execs cooked up in their heads.

[@5ufo]

It can't get there anyway, because "BG3" and any Larian studios games are not even rpgs. It's a low effort imitations. And I suspect that studio is trying to spread hate against Bioware now to push them away from rpg market and take their place.

[@chrissoclone]

@@5ufo Now that's a really impressive tinfoil hat you're wearing there, congrats! Not sure if you're serious tbh.

[@5ufo]

​@@chrissoclone pay attention to comments and articles about how bad DA became and how good BG3 is as an alternative. This bot farms usually are used for political propaganda, but it seems they are now work for dark corporate marketing too.

[@chrissoclone]

@@5ufo Wow, you're serious. And Larian of all companies does that to dethrone Bioware - because you think BG3 does not have the quality to compete? Have you even played it? And have you noticed that Bioware has been in troubled waters longer than most people even ever heard of Larian?

[@jond7691]

I think CohhCarnage had a very good take on this from a long time fans perspective as to why some people aren't very happy with the game. Personally, I don't like the new style, but i'll try and enjoy the game for the story and setting that i've loved for years, and try not to be disappointed that it's now an ARPG. Is it what I wanted? No. Does it feel dumbed down? Yes. Does that make it bad? Not necessarily, it's just appealing to a different player base than previous entries. It feels like a went to steakhouse and ordered a T-bone, and they served me a ham sandwich. It's edible, and I'm sure some people would love a ham sandwich, but it's not why I came to a steakhouse, any supermarket could have sold me a generic ham sandwich. And that's what this feels like now, generic. But at least it's not an online multiplayer. Pros: The visuals look pretty good, apart from a lot of the enemy designs (why are the demons neon, and why do darkspawn now look like cartoon monsters? Gives suicide squad vibes). I don't mind the linear level design, as long as you get to a central hub where you can choose your missions, similar to the campsite in DA:O, the semi open world of DA:I was cool to start, but after a while became very repetitive and grindy. I actually really like a lot of the more action-y combat changes, like dodging, some sort of quick class ability (or whatever that ranged attack was for the rogue). Cons: I feel like these combat changes could have been added, whilst keeping the existing tactical features, like a tactical camera, the ability to control companions directly, and a lot more ability hotkeys (we don't yet know how many you can have, but most of the other games had at least 10 on PC with m&k). All of these IMO were key to the Dragon Age combat experience, and helped differentiate it from something like mass effect, which is basically what we have now. I'm sure there will be people who just button mashed their way through Inquisition, but to me that's boring. I absolutely HATE that enemies only aggro on the player, and companions don't seem to have health or be able to get hurt. They've gone from companions to ability buttons. No more will I put a barrier on my tank warrior, or dispel a dot on an ally, or even combat res. This leads into what you said about difficulty, it was never about min/maxing gear and items, it was about party composition and tactics. Mages and ranged characters in particular look like they're going to have to have some major changes, as with the confined combat area, and no aggro mechanic for companions, they're going to have to backflip/teleport all over the place. I think BioWare have done an awful marketing job with this, from the cartoony, upbeat trailer (which I suspect is leftover from when the game was going to be an online multiplayer, and they didn't bother to replace), to only showing a level 1 character with 1 ability and no companion abilities. Sure, show the starting area, but instead of skipping ahead and spoiling the Solas scene, show a fight against some generic enemies, with a higher level character and the full combat stack, so we don't have to guess how everything is going to work, when it's such a big departure from how it's worked previously. Even something like the different shield types on the demons you mentioned, I don't think that was ever said explicitly in the gameplay reveal.

[@chrissoclone]

I'd agree on the story being what I play it for, but sadly Bioware gave their stories and writing the same "button - awesome" treatment as their combat. Every companion is just "awesome", the best of their kind, unstoppable and so funny too! I.e: Fanservice. I don't see any deep character writing anymore, no hero's journey, just quippy little badasses with awesome intro scenes and great twitter takes as dialogues who then have some little generic sob story attached and you follow the Bioware formula to get the hottest one into your private room before the finale. BW has become boring and predictable in that area and other studios overtook and are miles ahead now. Every game I liked less characters, from the vast majority in Origins down to 2 or so in Inquisition, the rest annoyed me. Same for Mass Effect. Main story... dunno, they built in so many powerfantasy scenes, cringe, predictable twists that I can't really care anymore either. Yes, I'm still gonna play it probably, but I don't expect good writing anymore, and that's sad to say about the studio that once set the standard for it and invented meaningful companion relationships.

[@andrewmcmillan229]

But are people who don't like this long time fans of Dragon Age? or are they fans of Dragon Age Origins only? People who liked one Dragon Age and haven't liked any of the games since 2011 I'm not sure I would describe as "long time fans" of a series

[@chrissoclone]

@@andrewmcmillan229 They are probably mostly fans of Origins who still tag along in hope for a glimpse of past glory, to follow the main story, to see where it goes - I can't tell you even though I'm one of them. Loyal to the brand maybe, trying to collect the crumbs left for them like maybe a nice companion story... sometimes the games are still fun, but not on that level anymore. I also think most are just Bioware fans, especially with DA2 and DAI there's a lot of overlap with the Mass Effect players, and Bioware fans like the soap opera above all.

[@DoNotABarrelRoll]

I think it's too soon to start railing against the way companions work or linear level design - as was pointed out in the video, this is the tutorial. The UI looks like it has spots for companion portraits next to abilities which are empty. To me, it reads as though they are mechanically just not actually a member of your party yet. I could be wrong, it's possible that companions are just extra ability slots with quips that you lug around, but that isn't the impression I get from the context of a tutorial level + the look of the UI. This showcase gives us a general overview, lets us know what the game looks like in motion and that it's got a heavier action focus now, but there are still a lot of unanswered questions. Like you said at the end, I hope that before launch we get something similar to this for later in the game and can see how things look when they're not letting you get introduced to the basics.

[@PytorDukiv]

Cohh's comments came across as massive cope. I don't think long time fans should share his perspective in the slightest. Don't buy the game at all if you think it looks bad, don't buy it and say "oh well it's fine" because you're just supporting what you don't want.

[@meodrac]

This is Final Dragon Effect Fantasy II: Inquisition

[@jebshere]

I was thinking Dragon Raid: Fortnight Legends.

[@jaaayyy2532]

I dont blame people for getting mad at the gameplay trailer for being set early on in the game because at the end of the day bioware decided to show it.

[@brialyncroi]

The art style, I can't. It's not bad, it looks nice sure. I get their hair, lighting, and water tech is fantastic. I don't play Dragon Age for a cartoony aesthetic. I was hoping the trailer wasn't what it was going to look like. The fact that it seems to play more like Mass Effect and less like the hybrid style they had been using for DA2 and Inquisition. I truly hope the game does well because I want Bioware to succeed, but I'm going to have to sit this one out until its sale. I'm going to keep my eye on the info coming out and hope something changes my mind, but the art style is killing me.

[@thelaborpeasant]

I gotta disagree. I think this game is absolutely trying to be everything to everybody and that's its biggest flaw. The art style and gameplay all look super generic as if they're trying to relate to those Fortnite and Overwatch fans but then the name and the lore are still Dragon Age and in my opinion everything just gets lost in that tug of war. Yes it looks polished and smooth and yes, it probably could be great as a stand alone title but Dragon Age? The game known for witches seducing you to impregnate them and mages being lobotimized for fear of their destructive power? I'm sorry, this just isn't it. They should've chose whether to be Dragon Age or something new entirely but being both like this is just a hard miss Just my opinion at least

[@Macheako]

I think the guy that designed The Urbz is workin in this 😂❤

[@thelaborpeasant]

@Macheako 😅 it kinda looks like it I just feel like a lot of us fans of the old Dragon Age games are thinking "Why can't we have two Baldurs Gates? Why do we have to have a 14th Action RPG Genshin Impact thing instead?" That's really the crux of it. We waited patiently for nine years to be told we're not the audience they want anymore. It's heartbreaking

[@JBone_Capone]

Love the series, and been hyped on this game since I caught wind of it going into development. Saw the trailer? Immediately killed all my excitement. Thought, “Well maybe the gameplay reveal will be better. Don’t write it off yet.” Was it better than the trailer? Sure, but that’s not a high bar to exceed. Everything about it so far just reads safe, sanitary, generic, and same-y. From the art style, and direction, the overall tone, the character/enemy/level design (is that seriously what pride demons look like now!?) the cheesy expository dialogue, and one liners. There’s no blood/gore, the hack and slash flashy action game style combat. Like everything from the original trilogy has been neutered. No grit, no balls, no imagination. Will I play it? Sure. I’m even willing to bet it will still be a fun game. But it’ll be a “wait until the ultimate edition releases and buy on a deeply discounted steam sale a year or two later for a quick turn and burn over a week or two” type of fun game. Not a “completely immerse myself for months for several play throughs, and return every year two to replay because it’s one of the greatest games of all time” kind of fun game like the first three. Origins in particular. One of my all time favorite RPG’s.

[@imo098765]

@@thelaborpeasant Genshin Impact combat better than what we saw and even the artstyle is

[@Macheako]

@@thelaborpeasant you have nothing but my condolences 💐 it really feels like these companies deserve every bit of failure and lay offs that I pray are coming their way 🙏

[@cada8cada]

There will be ONLY 2 companions (like in Mass Effect).

[@ShadowProject01]

Controlled like ME too. You don’t get to control your party members in this one. Just give them commands like ME

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

@@ShadowProject01 It's literally Mass Effect 2: Dragon Age Edition It's what happens when people praise Mass Effect 2 as the best Bioware game made, like over a decade after it came out

[@carpenoctem]

@@ShadowProject01They have commands in the ability wheel, I’m sure there will be another part of the interface to command them to move to certain areas.

[@DubcityTX]

@@7PlayingWithFire7 More like it's what happens when hacks who lack any creativity and backbone choosing something easy and reliable that has more chance to appeasing a broader audience. That overwatch/disney pixar release trailer wasn't an accident. They want to appeal to EVERYONE, no matter if the old fans get left behind.

[@Darkeus1]

@@7PlayingWithFire7 I don't want Dragon Age to be Mass Effect 2

[@timjfads]

I'm hoping you're not limited to just 3 ability slots because that would suck

[@HulkMode365days]

It looks like it!!!😅😅😅

[@NizarElZarif]

In Mass effect andromeda you have 3 ability slot mappend to (L1, R1, L1+R!), but you can quickly swap between several presets, so you have quick access to 12 abilities, I think something similar is likely here.

[@timjfads]

@NizarElZarif I wasn't a fan of ME A so I'm hoping for something better than MEA

[@matthew2277]

@@timjfads the combat was one of the only good parts tbf

[@craserx6267]

@@matthew2277 agree. but it was not spectacular or enough to carry the game.

[@BedbugGaming]

it really looks like the embodiment of generic unimaginative action rpg. technically it works. i didn't see a single thing that made me think it was cool or that I wanted to tell my friends about.

[@thineubaut]

Dragon Age: Managed Expectations

[@FloripesTavares]

"new fans" Bro, this game is a sequel for a DLC from a game that release 10 years ago. This doesnt appeal to new audiences

[@Macheako]

Bruh my 3 year old nephew loved it, speak for yourself /s 😂❤

[@barryb.benson3370]

That's an out of touch take. Dragon Age isn't a niche franchise. Its actually really popular in young nerdy spaces. The lore, the characters, the companion friendships and romances all have very wide appeal. I play at a hobby/card shops with a custom Dragon Age: Origins playmat and have gotten plenty of compliments from other players that were like 10 years old when Inquisition released.

[@FloripesTavares]

​@@barryb.benson3370this doesnt mean much or help you to get to sell millions of copies needed to break even. Persona its super popular with young audiences and most people know, but it still not selling 3 or 4 million copies in a week. At least for Persona advantage, the game is much cheaper to develop

[@littleoldmanboy]

@@barryb.benson3370Right. So apparently Bioware has decided to appeal to the 10 year olds, instead of the adults who grew up with the franchise. What an intelligent decision for your narrative-driven game whose main story is a direct continuation of your previous game.

[@barryb.benson3370]

@@littleoldmanboy Inquisition is a decade old now, those kids are now in their early 20s. I'm 30 years old. I literally grew up with the franchise. I bought and played it over Christmas break in 2009 and have been a big fan of the franchise since. This still appeals to me. Also, its still a narrative driven game. How would you even know if it wasn't? The devs already confirmed its going to be a mission driven game like Origins, so they could focus on telling the story and not get sidetracked by an empty open world like DA:I.

[@sueiko8169]

As a fan of the series who sunk hours and hours in every part and even loves and defended Inquisition over and over again, i don't feel Dragon Age in this. This new "Dragon Age" seems to want to appeal to as many people as possible, but is too different for lovers of the franchise. It feels like every other franchise right now. They take an IP with a huge fanbase, do their thing and go completely against said fanbase. Then they blame/mock the fanbase for not wanting the product. Instead of doing somethign for the fanbase. I will try out the game of course, i wanna see how bad/good it will be. Maybe the story is good, but my hopes are not high. BG3 was what Dragon Age 4 should have been.

[@Pearcinator]

Dunno why you kept comparing it to Hogwarts when it's almost exactly like Mass Effect 3 combat. Squad of 3, like ME3. 3 hotkey abilities, like ME3. No swapping between party members, like ME3. Linear missions with more open hub-like areas, like ME3. I say this as a positive thing though. ME3 combat was amazing. The biotic/tech/cryo/fire combos were really fun to do. The gameplay of ME3 was peak, the story of ME3 needed more time to cook (especially the ending). I'm keen, Bioware needs a win here if we want to get more Mass Effect in the future!

[@kalaelizabeth]

Thats really good to hear that there was no bugs or hiccups also thanks for a reasonable take

[@Trace153]

Altus = Makes mechanic deep games with deep characters that are flawed and grow over the game Other RPG’s = we need to go action and light light mechanics, with surface level characters while removing the party system. Altus, reviewed great by players and critics. AND sales stupid well. Action RPGs, critics say it’s good and “diverse” while players are “mix”. Sales “under perform”. Hmm do the “others” A. say hey maybe Atlus is onto something. Or B. naw let’s make it more simple and one note characters that are “diverse”. Yea……

[@redmenace8287]

And I present to you Marvel's The Veilguard

[@daymonendsley3297]

So has anyone actually played Dragon Age? the more I hear about other's thought on the game makes me wonder if yall even played them, Luke awesome love his content but he sounds like a confused toddler talking about dragon age

[@wittedguy2821]

The gameplay shifts towards action started around the 2nd game; this gameplay trailer feels more in line with Inquisition with a mass effect style ability wheel instead of the more strategic style of the older games that faded with each entry. there's essentially a rift between those who liked the last two games, including Inquisition which was BioWare last main financial success and had more fans at the time, and those who only liked/played Origins. while I do think origins is still best, I believe 2 and Inquisition get far more hate than deserved, not just because of their imperfections but because so many people hate them for not being like Origins gameplaywise, and hate on 2 for having a slower smaller scale non-apocalyptic plot that makes it seem odd amongst both other games.

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

@@wittedguy2821 People hate 2 because of the time crunch put onto it by EA. For the time Bioware was given to make it, they did the best they could do and I commend them for it. But it still doesn't make it a good game.

[@imo098765]

@@wittedguy2821 People dont like 2 because it was worse than Origins. We hate EA for giving a talented team 14 months to make an ENTIRE GAME, when Origins and Inquistion took 3+ years to make. They had less than half the time to make the game. DA2 had all the potential in the story and setting but EA didnt allow Bioware to make that game. The "delay" of DAV(e) was the entire development cycle of 2 thats crazy

[@poisondragonslayer]

​@wittedguy2821 DA2 battle mechanics is the best in the all of the three and the story is good the one that is disappointing is the map is overused and repeated but its still a good game i played DA2 first and got hooked by the story and the lore

[@gabrielegr8282]

@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Most fans still like 2 for the story though, and the companions were some of the best in the series.

[@first-last311]

"There's gonna be some people that hate on it or hate it. That's fine. Like, cool. Good for you. You don't have to buy it. Like, just don't buy it." Alright, deal

[@Macheako]

I’ve never been more happier to give you what you want 😂❤

[@Direwolf9818]

But if you’re not gonna buy it, don’t fucking complain about it

[@first-last311]

@@Direwolf9818 Where did I complain? Show me. I just agreed with Luke and implied that I'm not gonna buy the game. Did my comment hurt you this much?

[@Macheako]

@@Direwolf9818 NINJA!!!!!!!!! it’s called “Leaving Feedback” ya dirt bag 😂

[@Thiccness_Is_Delicious]

Have every right to complain about it, we were here first. ​@@Direwolf9818

[@Johnny5477]

The purple + green coloring/filters are… a lot.

[@babarrett1]

Does kinda fit Tevinter though, I could see a lot of purple for them.

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

@@babarrett1 Mmhm! Other areas seem to be visibly different, Tevinter has a lot of 'neon' colors because it is kinda the high tech place of the universe even if its magic.

[@chrissoclone]

You can't escape the purple atm, apparently every game and media has turned into Saints Row this year.

[@gabrielegr8282]

I think it helps the game stand out from previous entries since it takes place in Tevinter which is supposed to be more technologically advanced and mages are less restricted compared to Ferelden and Kirkwall which are supposed to be much more mundane places.

[@renderlifestyle]

Omg, people will find anything to complain about. Soft generation 😂

[@Neovalen]

Luke, just want to say thanks for giving it a fair shake. As a longtime Dragon Age fan, I hated the original trailer the same as everyone else. That said, I thought the gameplay was much better. Some people just want to keep hating on it and I just don't see it. No final judgement on quality until I see more but so far so good in my opinion.

[@damionval]

"In it for the lore, the story and characters..." That's a true Dragon Age fan.

[@TheRealCaptainLavender]

That's literally what every shill says when they have no argument against terrible game design, writing, art direction. the CLEARLY political propaganda that all ESG companies are pushing and the complete homogenization and dumbing down and even outright REMOVAL of mechanics and systems you get, "I'm just In it for the lore, the story and characters..."

[@msmurrdear]

I loved this review. It expressed concern without putting every aspect down as an issue. You where fair and yes there will always be those that hate it but as a longtime fan i am so excited for what i saw on the gameplay trailer. I can't wait to get back into the world of dragon age.

[@MikeO_42]

I would never judge others for their enjoyment of clam chowder. I would, however, complain to and about the chef who seems to only be able and/or interested in making subpar generic clam chowder when they spent their early career making a name for themselves with world class steaks.

[@philipellis9527]

that was a drawn out way of saying you would like to speak t the manager cause you have an opinion. It has been acknowledged. Congrats. I myself look at the clam chowder and smell it across the room and I like what I smell. I hope it tastes just as good.

[@Desmond-Dark]

​@@philipellis9527 Gotta love how passive aggressive so many fans are.

[@MikeO_42]

@@philipellis9527 Good for you! I hope you enjoy it :)

[@philipellis9527]

@@MikeO_42 And I hope if you get it, it pleasantly surprises u

[@sterlingarcher4343]

As a Dragon Age fan my only worry is the writing. Other than that the game looks good. I prefer origins combat but I already knew they weren’t going for that since they changed it in DA2. I just hope they nailed the story, characters and choices because that’s literally the most important aspects of Dragon Age

[@j.avance9031]

It just bothers me that the rogue in the demo is using a lightning spell like a mage...why? Magic was always a rare thing in dragon age that was both respected and feared. Why is an regular old rogue popping off spells? Was that ever explained because i must've missed it during the showcase.

[@pepita2437]

Yeah, same here. Also veil-jumping? Going into the veil is supposed to be a very dangerous almost impossible thing, because it' so horrible to be there.

[@XBlueXFire]

Tbf, the Rook we saw in the showcase is from Tevinter. If any random rogue would have magic, it'd imagine it'd be someone from there. As to the rarity of magic I'm unsure. Considering the whole mage rebellion since DA2 and DA:I, you see mages almost everywhere. I think magic can actually be quite commonly accessiblr but the south surpresses it outside of the chantry circles for fear of there being abominations everywhere, meanwhile Tevinter lets it rock.

[@jclosed2516]

He's probably from Tevinter, and thus has at least some magical training. As far as we know he could be a Tevinter mage that opposes the ruling class after a fall-out. Who knows?

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

also jumping like a girl

[@aliameth4386]

Because this is set in Minrathrous where The Northern Chantry holds power. In the North of Thedas mages are free and are not forced to live in a circle of magi. So magic is heavily involved in the societies there. Plus Solas is trying to tear down the veil which is what keeps magic from being used by all even if one does not have much control. In fact this was hinted to be possible because DA:I allows any class to use magic because of your hand that is able to close the rifts. It’s not intentional spell attack usage but it is spell manipulation by non-mage classes when you’re not a mage. So all of this does make sense

[@RipcoKeller]

How far Bioware has fallen that they are considered the underdog compared to some other company's RPG IP and have to be afraid of going toe to toe on gameplay and story.

[@ashN2f]

and that "some other company's rpg ip" (Baldur's Gate) once was Bioware's original CRPG IP to begin with...

[@Gungrave123]

nothing of that "Bioware" exists today. People often forget that a game studio is just as good as the people in it - the name on the door is irrelevant.

[@ashN2f]

@@Gungrave123 yup! Absolutely correct!!

[@OutofManna]

The vibes were off since the reveal trailer for me. The art direction is just so jarring. The character designs all have that by committee contemporary look to them. Figured I would at least give them the benefit of the doubt and watch their gameplay presentation. That didn't really win me over either. It just felt super dumbed down. Don't know why they went with not being able to control the rest of your party. Then again it just seems like they wanted to go with an even more simplified version of what an action RPG is. Really curious how this ends up doing. Bioware needs a win. I just don't think this is going to end up being for me.

[@JJJBunney001]

The gameplay trailers looked loom a shiny version of 3 or a really shiny version of 2, not sure what you are watching

[@daxxad6]

Noone talks about picking up health pots from destroyed green vases? That confirms that there is no ctafting nor Healer Spells/Class. Its Mass Effect skined as Dragon Age.

[@vergillives9890]

Your mages couldn't heal either only poison rogues could and you need a belt to hold more healing in dragon age inquisition

[@Ilwenray85]

​@@vergillives9890 I kind of find it weird, when they remove features that are part of what defines the characters themselves xD Like Anders, that was a nice spice: how many lives you saved vs how many lives you took? do you think it matters if you saved more? Edit: But heck, they even destroyed Bianca xD

[@vergillives9890]

@@Ilwenray85 i agree i dont why they would take away healing and Bianca foreshadowing im not sure what thats foreshadowing

[@barbora8720]

It was actually confirmed on Bioware's Q&A there will be healing abilities/spells. Also crafting. Don't jump to random conclusions just to spread hate...

[@daxxad6]

@@barbora8720 like vivien knight enchanter focus skill, because it will be unless MC specialize in Healing. We have a Necromancer and Elementalist mage shiwn so both dps. Nah its Mass Effect pick med-gel kits skined as health potions

[@Stevoleblanc]

I think your take is a bit optimistic, personally speaking: firstly, dragon age as a franchise started by appealing at a very specific chunk of gamers, mostly those that came from Baldur's Gate saga, Neverwinter Nights, and so on - so that specific playerbase that enjoyed that more "hardcore" experience in the first place (that you could still dial down for story enjoyment). And that playerbase for the most part remembers DA: origins fondly for what it did: offer an amazing heartwrenching story, gritty and dark, while also offering a very fun system to play with, with the (at the time) unique "origin system" that gave lots of replayability even just for the origin stories. The echo of that title is so important in the rpg community that Veilguard, even after so many years, shatters once more time expectation to get that back, either coping and accepting it or simply ignoring the title and moving on. But even if you disregard the "Old" fanbase, what this game tries to do seems very bland and generic, in my and many other people that also work in the field opinion : hogwarts legacy is a bit of a hard comparison, as the main reason why that game worked out (which is something you often say as well) is because the franchise is so big outside of gaming, that people would have bought the game even only to explore the castle. What is the hook for this game, specifically? What its trying to do that stands out from any other game of the genre, both design-wise and gameplay wise, enough to justify 70$? I'm a bit surprised you've been a bit dismissive of how bland the game feels, considering the usual tone of this channel. But regardless, thank you for the content and the coverage!

[@DanCollier1]

I agree

[@ess1405]

Can't control your party members = not dragon age. But i guess it was to be expected, today's bioware isn't the bioware that gave us quality games back in the day.

[@FuriousFapper326]

I mean personnally I would have accepted the new gameplay if it was well executed and the rest of the game is great. But man 3 spells? hogwarts has more. and this weird dark but flashy and cartoon like combat animation makes it so far removed from the original gritty atmosphere might as well not call it dragon age at all. Dont get me started on the designs of darkspawns and some monsters... the artists couldn't make their minds about the artistic style

[@gownerjones]

Idk, depends on what kind of player you are. Dragon Age to me is the story, the characters, the choices, the savegame consistency. The gameplay isn't important to me at all, I never even used to control my companions after the first game. So to me, this is Dragon Age.

[@gownerjones]

@@FuriousFapper326 I find it extremely unlikely that you only get 3 spells. I'm guessing the three slots we see either can be upgraded so you can "prepare" more spells and abilities before combat or you can change pages on it or something. This is just the tutorial.

[@apostatecactus5355]

100% agree with the previous comment. Dragon Age was never about the gameplay. That's why they keep changing the gameplay. And let's be honest, a game that played like DAO just wouldn't be popular nowadays, except for fans of DAO. Most people who got into Dragon Age nowadays, did so through Inquisition. To some extent, I can understand why the reveal trailer was the way it was. I still don't like it, but I can understand what they were going for. The most important aspect of Dragon Age is the companions, so a trailer introducing them was a no-brainer. The tone was just off. When it comes to 3 abilities... I'm hoping that isn't the case, and I'm presuming it won't be. Either (like Hogwarts) it allows you to swap on the fly between several 'loadouts' of abilities, or it will allow you to unlock new slots. The developers also mentioned that abilities will be able to combo together. That was also present in Inquisition but not very significant, so hopefully it'll be more impactful in this game. Overall, I'm cautious, but I'm looking forward to it. Dragon Age stories are among some of the greatest modern fantasy stories, and the lead writer working on this game has yet to disappoint.

[@daymonendsley3297]

If it's anything like Inquisition you will have your own hotbar where you can quick cast but I didn't see it in the trailer

[@foulXD]

the gameplay footage makes DA: I look good in terms of gameplay. this looks like a generic mobile game.

[@sojinnn]

It's weird they want to deviate from the strategic aspect of the game when fans have been asking for the franchise to return to its roots. I'm trying to be hopeful, but when they changed up the combat on DAI, it was definitely not for the better.

[@MIICAH2]

I actually liked it the strategic gameplay is why I couldn't finish BG3 while the story was amazing. I felt like the combat was holding it back.

[@babarrett1]

DA:I sold twice as many copies than DA:O the people wanting CRPG game mechanics back are not the largest group, they’re just the loudest.

[@littleoldmanboy]

@@MIICAH2so you’re just bad at games then? BG3 doesn’t exist without tactical combat lol it’s a DnD game. DnD has always and will always be a wargame about killing monsters. Couldnt you have just played on the easiest difficulty? Or are you saying even that was too challenging?

[@NoName-ym5zj]

The worst part about this, is that they pretend that there is no problem and the only players that are complaining are those few "problematic" players who are irrationally resistant to change. Just admit you wanna hit that wider audience numbers and cut off the old fans, it's that easy.

[@littleoldmanboy]

@@babarrett1I dont want CRPG mechanics back I just want Dragon Age mechanics back. The franchise started with Origins it’s how myself and so many others became familiar with it. But every game since then they’ve diluted it, stripped it down, made it more simple and braindead. And now, Veilguard is a full on Action-RPG (and not a very good one at that, bro did the same 3 attacks the entire video) where you can’t even control your companions. A shame

[@clippedwings0]

"They desperately need to differentiate themselves from Baldur's Gate [...] Don't try to take on the king at his own game." Sigh. Here I thought BG3's massive success would inspire more action RPG's to veer more back toward RPG, but he's right... It's a 'mission-based' action game, so they don't have to be compared to a great RPG.

[@raynortownly7098]

And yet they will be, they will BE.

[@Awoken0]

To be fair, BG3 only became a massive success last year on full release, nowhere near enough time for Bioware to pivot to yet another design when this game has restarted development like 3 times already.

[@xKindle]

A game for everyone is a game for no one

[@ameynanote]

Minecraft?

[@MIICAH2]

But this game isn't for everyone, you see these comments 😂 the majority maybe but I'm actually looking forward to this game, trailer was trash gameplay pretty good.

[@PuppetMaster-Blade]

​@@ameynanote that aint a game for everyone lol

[@PuppetMaster-Blade]

​@@MIICAH2 DA4 is rumored to be rated T.... you cant defend that lmao

[@apostatecactus5355]

@@PuppetMaster-Blade no it isn't. Straight up lie. They said the ESRB is pending but likely to be M 17+

[@basementality4924]

Visually incredible, combat looks pretty good, big issue is the removal of the tactics. Now is it literally just commanding your ally’s to do their special moves? Or can you still set conditions for when your ally’s use their moves automatically. Also why don’t we see ally health bars? Do they not get attacked at all? It doesn’t make sense though because if you’re a mage you have to have a tank take damage. Idk we will see. I have hope it was just a weird opening scene demo and once the game opens up it’s a bit more recognizable.

[@johnrudge5459]

Looks more like mobile game

[@mihmo2663]

If someone was going to be a fan they would be a fan. Telling your established fanbase to piss off to chase a new audience has never worked.

[@Macheako]

These boots 👢 were made for walking 😂❤

[@littleoldmanboy]

As Rocksteady showed us very recently. Spent a decade creating single player action/narrative games then expected their fanbase to enjoy Suicide Squad. Bafflingly stupid.

[@tyler-hp7oq]

You guys have been complaining about the combat in Dragon Age for like 15 years. None of you are going anywhere. Every time a new one comes out it's the same "It's different from Origins" argument. Why tf do you old heads still think the next one will be like Origins.

[@aschente8455]

@@tyler-hp7oq Please name at least 5 games that succeded after COMPLETELY changing it's predecessor's combat style. Yes, we want Origins like, cuz Baldur's Gate 3 showed that initial combat works for lots of people after so many years, then why these BioWare clowns can't do it? EA manages to trun everything into trash with their hands. Besides, it has no dark fantasy vibe nomore, everything is so fortnitish, rainbowish and colourful and screams "look, it's fun and has sth for everyone". TF are they thinking???

[@timjacobsen253]

If you think about it origins stacked up against the greatest like icewind dale, baldours gate and neverwinter night. This will not stack up against baldours gate. They are trying to pull in the masses instead of focusing on fans. It looks okay for a non dragon game, but i do Hope those who plays it enjoy it.

[@Teezy_Ty]

People talking about the combat not being like Origins . Have you played any other Da game? DA has not been tactical in combat since Origins, which is going on nearly 2 decades old. Yea DAI had tactical elements to it, but it was definitely more action focused. So don’t get why people are upset about the combat not being like origins when it hasn’t been like for 2 going in 3 games now. Also, I’m sure most DA fans play the DA game for the story, characters, lore etc not for the combat.

[@drolzak7]

I don't like the take of "BG3 does it better, so Bioware shouldn't try to do the same thing as Larian did", like would you have accepted that statement from Larian if they said they couldn't do better than dragon age origins, that it would've made it a bad idea to develop BG3 into what it is now. Didn't every RPG enthusiast want more games like BG3? I get that DAtV won't get close to Larian's massive undertaking, but I can deal with a more cinematic experience that complements the less complex RPG systems.

[@tallscreengabbo]

Here's 20 minutes of Luke acting like he has a clue what he is talking about with regards to Dragon Age. You clearly don't know much.

[@Almethese84]

100% agree with this sentiment!

[@EatThePath-7]

So the average Luke Stephens video lol

[@vadimpanov2285]

What was he wrong about?

[@GFBunnyHopER]

He just yapped for 20 minutes how this Dragon Age is not Dragon Age.... Somehow that should be a good thing? We already see that huge fans don't like this and devs hope that new fans will buy it instead of old ones. At this point Bioware can't make good games like Origins or old MEs.

[@gauthamiyer2998]

I dunno why anybody expected something different. DA has been trending in this direction for years and they finally ripped the bandaid off.

[@clayskii]

Usually agree with you, but kind of disagree on this one. It feels like they are making a game for a wider audience instead of their typical focus. It's adding in more arpg elements and leaving in less rpg elements. And just because BG3 exists doesnt mean no one else can make a crpg. They're just competing with a different genre now and there are way better arpgs out there too. I am the person that will still play for the story and lore, but they do seem to be going halfway into different genres and potentially not excelling in one.

[@MeCrazy516]

all the action system does is rip out the complexity, and creativity, and replace it with button mashing

[@FMBriggs]

That's just the thing. Origins took the torch from older CRPGs like Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, and really did something special with the formula. Then along came Baldurs Gate 3 and took back their torch and did something so special that it's nigh impossible for any developer to ever do it better, including Larian. For Bioware to try and go back to those roots now would be /wrists for them. Dragon Age is now a different beast after Inquisition, and the only way we'll ever get another CRPG dragon age game is with an Origins remaster.

[@leinadreign3510]

Disney presents A kotick production in collaboration with blizzard Dragon Age A marvel-ous title Coming soon That's what ive got in mind by watching the trailer. I skipped it on an instant ^^ Not bothering with marvelisation at all. And I still have Baldurs Gate 3 : )

[@linkfain1]

Did anyone ask about framerate or mod support????

[@chrissoclone]

Mod support? What was the last Bioware game you played, Neverwinter Nights? :D

[@EatThePath-7]

60fps on console. Nothing on mod support, but i doubt it will have anything official

[@chrissoclone]

@@EatThePath-7 I'm not aware of any Frostbyte game that was even moddable without a lot of effort, as for official support the answer is no, Bioware never had any since they belong to EA.

[@CSM.HBJ-Dogg]

@@chrissoclone not using frostbite

[@chrissoclone]

@@CSM.HBJ-Dogg Yeah it does. Mass Effect switches back to Unreal but DAVE did not.

[@dominika3762]

I'm a DAO fan but played other DA games with tepid enthusiasm and this is definitely not something I've wanted. I especially hate the art style and even more action oriented combat. This will either be a pass for me or wait for sale.

[@Trace153]

It’s sad saying BioWare should not challenge the king and go play in the action kid pool. When they were the king, by a mile for over 10 years easy. Makes me sad to agree that they are the special little kid who was the best, but had an accident and ZombiWare needs to be put in a special little kid sandbox to say aww look at them still trying.

[@amypetty5013]

It is confirmed you will only have 3 people in your party - that includes YOU. So the ability wheel - the left is for your first companion, the bottom is you, and the right is your second companion. The top one has to do with selecting between the two of them, or using them both together. This isn't speculative - they've dropped the total party configuration to 3 down from 4. So where people talk about having 3, they're including the PC/Rook in that, they're not saying you have three additional companions.

[@sergiuanfield9918]

how do you heal your companions? all enemies engage on me only? do companions take dmg at all ? hmmm ?...

[@Wormswoods]

Apparently the companions fighting, taking damage, and generally being more than moving decorations has been turned off for that demo. Think it says that somewhere in there. It's not my Dragon Age, but at least that part should be different in the final game.

[@johnrudge5459]

​@@Wormswoodsi was thinking the same thing soo do u do all the work and your companions just do nothing

[@Wormswoods]

@@johnrudge5459 I don't think so, I think it will be similar to Andromeda, where you direct companions to use skills, but cannot control them directly. When they do the pause menu with extra skills around 14:20, you can even see space for what could be companion abilities.

[@sergiuanfield9918]

@@Wormswoods thats one ugly and busy ability wheel, curious how its gonna look on pc. We will find out in time. Im gonna get the game regardless, need to know whats gonna happen to solas, and i dont have high expectations

[@Wormswoods]

@@sergiuanfield9918 Ye, I feel that's one of those designs that look good when you present it on a meeting, but once you implement it, it turns out shit. Especially when it takes over entire screen. I wish you will be satisfied with the resolution of Solas's plot. I won't be getting it, but I do hope they did the story justice.

[@Pillock25]

The first hour is always heavily scripted and polished, it's to be expected, Yeah, it's for people like yourself at the behind closed doors events, all in a bid to build hype. Who remembers the closed event for Cyberpunk 2077? How everyone was gushing about the first 45 minutes of that game. I know I do, so I'm not excited, and I'll wait for the reviews, from those that don't get free review copies.

[@F34RDSoldier805]

Idk what your on about... Them changing the series to action based combat is literally an attempt at trying to make it for a wider audience... Your saying that they are moving away from the original fans of the series and that isn't trying to make the game for "everybody"? I don't buy that. This has "modern audiences" written all over it. Visually and gameplay wise.

[@Cifer77]

I've never been a fan of Dragon Age, but I thought this trailer was awesome. Most the complaints I've seen seem to be from fans of the IP saying "It's not Dragon Age"

[@MIICAH2]

As much as I like BG3 the combat just wasn't for me, I played inquisition thought it was a solid game. This game does have a high ceiling to try an reach because BG3 was released kind of recently I don't think it will reach that. But I could see myself enjoying this game, I will say the little gameplay they showed was miles better than the trailer.

[@gownerjones]

This game will not even come close to what BG3 has achieved but I'm looking forward to it nonetheless. As long as the story is good, I'm on board.

[@MIICAH2]

@@gownerjones same to be honest though, I shouldn't have compared it to BG3 because there both pretty different games. Each trying to do their own thing just set in a familiar setting. Edit: And I'm still looking forward to it's release.

[@littleoldmanboy]

@@MIICAH2They’re actually not different games at all. They’re both character-focused RPGs with an emphasis on storytelling and meaningful choices, leaving plenty of room for replayability. It is intellectually dishonest to say that these games are not similar. It’s unfortunate for Bioware because it’s just a fact that Bioware devs are nowhere near as talented as Larian devs. BG3 will remain the GOAT RPG for years and DA:V won’t even come close to it

[@MIICAH2]

@@littleoldmanboyliterally the meaningful choices is the only thing that has them close and setting, most RPGs wanna be character focused with an emphasis on storytelling and all strive for replay ability for better market. And it intelligence false to say that 9 out of 10 RPGs don't try to reach this quote. Edit: for clearance I never said they were completely different games, just not as close as some people think. Obviously combat being one.

[@vadimpanov2285]

@@littleoldmanboy Dragon Age has a much better setting that the generic DnD fantasy, which is pretty much the only thing that DA has on BG3.

[@michaelbuffaloe5694]

Honestly, I was expecting disappointment. Disappointment is what Bioware has delivered over the past decade+, and given the slow attrition of qualified employees from Bioware over that same period, I did not expect the situation to improve. IMO Bioware is like Bethesda - they used to be culturally relevant, but it's been so long since they produced something of high-quality, I have unfortunately come to expect mid-tier, disappointing content from them. This new Dragon Age is looking no different sadly.

[@jimcarrey2866]

I liked the particle effects. There, some positivity from me.

[@MIICAH2]

People calling it bad, I think just haven't played enough games. I've played some bad games this ain't one I'm feeling a 7 or 8 looking forward to it.

[@jimcarrey2866]

@@MIICAH2 I totally agree a 7 can be fun. I wouldn't buy them full price though. But, I vote with my wallet even on sales nowadays. So I might get it on ps+ or something

[@intothevoid2046]

Seems it has everything Dragons Dogma doesn't have but without the stuff Dragons Dogma has... And it is not a souls like. That is almost enough for me to want to play it. There are enough games for hardcore RPGers and Souls masochists and it is time to give us normal players something to have fun with in the fantasy realms.... Every Dragon Age game was different and so is this. Good when developers have the courage to try something.

[@Joyapp]

I love the defense of "different isn't always worse" The problem is when you go to a mc donalds and they only serve pizza (even if the pizza is good) you came for a burger. Do not call it a mcdonalds if you serve pizza. Its weird and baity.

[@amuddyelfproductions3915]

asmonknowledge

[@renderlifestyle]

Cry more, melt

[@Oozaru85]

Cool. But what if McDonalds adds Pizza to their menu?

[@winb_]

From what he is saying it seems to me he hasn't played the previous games lol, his wife is one person not really a great sample size is it. I think he doesn't understand the main problem is about them leaving the core audience of the Dragon Age franchise in the dust which is something a lot of new media is having issues with lately.

[@pepita2437]

@@winb_ I really think the tonal shift is too extreme, and it become too cartoony. I hoped they will return DA's dark fantasy roots, with the story they set up in Trespasser. I guess not.

[@omarcomming722]

Dude's wife likes the game so not he can't say anything bad about the afful trailers lol

[@connerellis8336]

So it’s not made for the existing fan base?… the forth game in a long running series… it’s made for casual gamers and a new player base… great, that always works well… we haven’t seen that over and over and over again… sarcasm

[@darkbeach72]

Top bar in abilities is for directing which companion attacks the current target, it can by either or both. Gamble posted a screenshot from later in the game that shows how combos/debuffs work and it shows the targeting thing I mentioned.

[@JerrySpringfield1]

This game looks very watered down. The dialog sounds very simple like if they want even a child to understand what's going on, the combat looks simple and spammy, the enemies are way too cartoonish. I don't think this is what people wanted out of Dragon age. Definitely not what I wanted.

[@SamKnight99]

This looks like a game I'll like as a Dragon Age fan

[@BashyenoM]

The blue and yellow bars are more reminiscent of mass effect where certain guns worked more effectively against certain barriers

[@RickySolomon-oq4rb]

Also who ever is marketing this game needs to be fired, they just should of shown the game-play, much enjoyable.

[@MIICAH2]

Gameplay fr had me saying ok not that bad, trailer had me scared lol

[@Macheako]

Gameplay was pretty mid too bruv ❤

[@cosmancho2959]

What are you talking about?. The gameplay was mediocre as hell.

[@RickySolomon-oq4rb]

@@MIICAH2 yea man same here, everyone has the right to their opinion but I enjoy it and I'm sure it gets better since is early part of the game. But that trailer gave me Marvel vibes..

[@luvaanima]

The game looks alot better than the trailer XD I really like all three Dragon Age games, even tho the later games had problems. Inquisition specially, cause its really ugly sometimes, but I liked the story and the gameplay was fun enugh. I think the new one looks good, but I'm sad that the tactic element is compleatly gone now. It looks like you can't even change control over your party... I'm not super hyped, but I would grab the game on sale probably.

[@Cottage_Punk]

Luke I find you surprisingly dismissive about the fanbase largely shared concerns/disappointment over what was showed so far. Especially as you almost admit little personal familiarity with the franchise. With the recent reveals, the devs accumulated a large number of red flags for fans. The art direction is wrong. The gameplay changes are terrible. And even the writting sounds mediocre a la Andromeda. It clearly shows this game went into development hell as the publishers attempt to brute force a Game as Live Service product into its single player story driven RPG before begrudgingly walking back. As a big fan of DA since Origins and someone who loved Inquisition, I went from instant buy level of excitation to completely disappointed. Whats more, with what you said about your exchanges with some of the devs, I am even less optimistic as the devs seems dismissive of their decade long fans on top of being obviously unfamiliar with DA and why people liked it in the first place. Clearly they dont want or cater to their fanbase but it remains to be seens if they manage to build a new one instead. Marvel like dialogues. Uninspired art direction. discontinued story (Solas was set to be the antigonist of this game and instead appears to be out of the picture following the prologue), study & mediocre gameplay changes set to chase after a new fanbase, dismissive devs unfamiliar with their IP. This Dragon Age Dreadwolf renamed DA The Veilguard is heading straight into disaster period.

[@Mandingy24]

The combat in DA has always been a mix of the basic attack chain between using abilities. This seems to give you control over your basic attacks with what seems to be potential combos and heavy attacks, as well as obvious movement options

[@juggernaut6666]

I loved origins. I still enjoyed 2 but inquisition was a flop for me. And this looks even worse than inquisition was. Judging by that UI, we lost a character slot. Seeing this trailer then seeing the witch reveal for POE 2 made this trailer feel even worse.

[@_fruitnveg]

This is largely where i'm at. DA:O was great, DA2 was ok, it had its problems. DA:I may have sold well, but it played like crap; bloated, grindy and a bit jank. Its story was its only salvation and even that felt weak to me. The DA:V trailers have left me totally cold. I'm beyond caring now. I might pick it up when its being given away for free or on a very deep sale. Honestly I probably won't though.

[@SirKofeeGaming]

I hope they do some flashbacks that we can play through as varric to see what happened after the trespasser DLC with the inquisitor and the party.

[@si1v3rcoyote84]

I will say this. Dragon Age: Origins was one of my first RPG's with FF 12 when I was a 10 year old. I enjoyed the hell out of them and got the ultimate edition for DA:O. Fast forward to now and they show this, this is not my Dragon Age. They should've called it something else. Games are a art form, but in the eyes of the consumer, it should tread a fine line. This is a game that I'm not intrested in nor play. If people want to play it then sure, try it. But as someone who loved DA:O, I'm dissapointed.

[@MIICAH2]

Never played DA: O was too young but did play inquisition and thought it was a solid game. While I'm glad it's action combat I would still like to tell teammates where I want them to be, I'm alright with not being able to play them but I need at least a little control of what they do.

[@Zoggwogg]

As someone who actually loves all 3 Dragon Age games, this is very much Dragon Age. The fact that you think it's something else says a lot about how much you actually care about this franchise.

[@MIICAH2]

@@Zoggwogg ppl say they want something fresh but when it's done, to their favorite ip there like what are you doing your killing it lol. I'm all for changes the trailer did look bad but the gameplay looked decent I planned on getting it regardless to see with my own eyes. And no I don't care about lefties agendas or the rights keyboard warriors. As long as the game is good I don't care if I see trump in a pride flag.

[@Macheako]

@@Zoggwogg hate keeper

[@Zoggwogg]

@@Macheako damn straight, If you don't like 80% of a franchise, you are not a fan.

[@jonathansoko1085]

Veilguard just made inquisition into a CLASSIC

[@mango0650]

It looks to me like they took a lot from mass effect especially with the combat. Which is great, but I’m in it for the story so hopefully they deliver.

[@Ashbrash1998]

They've been doing that since DA 2

[@imafirenmehlazer1]

im a mage.... Oscar level performance

[@PytorDukiv]

Yeah I'm sure they're going to deliver. Bioware riding highs, they've been great at making stories for the past 15 years.

[@ZelBellz]

Yeah exactly

[@NoName-ym5zj]

12:40 - People forget that dialogue options are also there for role-playing purposes, even if the outcome of your choice is still the same, the choice itself is an opportunity to roleplay and flesh out your character. Disco Elysium is mostly linear, yet it's regarded as one of the best RPGs in recent years because it focuses on role-playing more than on branching paths gimmicks.

[@Acursianlord]

Looks like the DnD game that flopped a while back. Dark Alliance

[@johnrudge5459]

Dark alliance was amazing lol

[@Acursianlord]

@johnrudge5459 yeah, according to 0-10 people on Steam that still play it.

[@johnrp4]

I agree with a lot of Luke's reviews etc (otherwise I wouldn't be a subscriber) but this seems a bit off. Like he's sat in a room and got caught up in the PR speak at an event and has a more favourable impression as a result. Art style - generic overwatch/fortnite style, gameplay - seemingly removed elements that made DA fans...well...fans, in the the first place, reduced team control, spamming the same three or four attacks throughout a fight. Graphically it's pretty impressive although some lighting is iffy

[@Dude_Justice]

My issue with the game play trailer is the character missing one leg. Fine but they keep showing it I think it was a shot of her leg 4 times which worries me about DEI. Also are they ignoring the choices we made in previous games or are they going to find a way to add it into the story.

[@MIICAH2]

You reaching heavy heavy and depending on the faction you choose, it will talk about the inquisitor from last game.

[@goldengouche5483]

It’s been confirmed that at the beginning of the game you also customize your inquisitor and make key choices from the last game.

[@ianharris3502]

Brain rot

[@gownerjones]

This is peak brain rot. Character has an amputated leg -> DEI trash apparently.

[@gownerjones]

I wonder if Fergus' entire character arc in Wolfensein The New Order was DEI trash because, duh, Fergus is not only disabled but his prosthesis is being ableist against him, what horrible messaging from the far left!!!

[@andi2612]

The entire video seems like finding positives and avoiding negatives because he went to the event.

[@RickySolomon-oq4rb]

Not sure why people expected them to go back to tactical combat, they've been going away from that since origins, I'm sure the game will be fine but it's just not targeting the true core of Dragon Age fans who knew them because of origins. Their going for a different tone, yes ik Bioware is not the same, but that doesn't mean they can't make a decent game.

[@imawallass]

At least Inquisition had it though. And the ability to control companions. This is just bland action slop.

[@TNTspaz]

I don't know. As a fan of action combat games. This looks like pure slop. Reminds me of every bad action combat game from the past few years.

[@MIICAH2]

​@@TNTspaznah I've seen worse action combat, at least with this I can create a character and give him a background. The combat reminded me a little of Arkham batman. So not the worst but not the best, will see

[@MrRys]

the tactical aspect was smaller with each entry yes, but DA:I still had it, you could command all the squad mates directly, you could pause and do an isometric view, you could set up a behavior for each party member, you had 4 characters in the party... here you will have 3 and it seems like you will only command your MC and then will be able to use other's abilities, like in mass effect

[@ImperatorofNewEngland]

Because it is unique and it was at the core of the Dragon Age games. In fact, they made it more in depth after they got flak for taking away the top down camera in DAII. And it isn't like it didn't sell, seeing as DA:I is one of BioWare's best selling games. There was no good reason to abandon the tactical formula when that is what fans loved. All this will do is drive away fans without knowing if you will get new ones.

[@Drragnorr]

I dont know, even after watching the gameplay video, still the game does not speak to me at all, It feels very generic disney aka marvel style. Maybe I am simply too old now. But I wanted them to compete with Larian, I expected that. Who else should It be, if not them? Seriously.

[@stefansibbes2440]

Luke is becoming the Chris Stuckmann of video game reviewers

[@ZGamingGuy]

More like the anti Chris. Since Chris is purely positive and has been for some time. Luke is generally pretty pessimistic

[@carpenoctem]

⁠​⁠@@ZGamingGuy He’s pessimistic… because he’s honest? Not sure if you’ve noticed, but gaming as a whole has taken a complete nose dive in the last decade. Luke is a breath of fresh air with a lot of his takes.

[@Kim-br5yj]

There are way to many games with this kind of combat and its getting old. The combat in DA1 was perfect for the type of game it was.

[@TheMordgan]

"Challenging". Dude never went below 50% hp. Combat seems waaaaaaaaay too easy. I know it's tutorial, but still.

[@freeMHan11]

Hard difficulty is there for a reason yeah?

[@dychostarr]

Tbf it's probably on easy as well. It was PAINFUL watching him play as after Inquisition I know that you use abilities as you got them up. Watching him sit on his ONLY ability only to use it RIGHT as the companions killed the enemies was painful.

[@TNTspaz]

@@freeMHan11 People don't like sponges that don't do anything. Giving the sponges more health isn't more difficult. It's just annoying. I don't get why people are defending this crap. Very few games with a difficulty slider actually make it more difficult through mechanics.

[@freeMHan11]

@@TNTspaz yep play dragon age 2 on hard and dont pause. See how long you last.

[@TNTspaz]

@@freeMHan11 It's literally not even in the same genre anymore man. I don't get what point you are making. Increased health with enemies that don't do anything in a action combat game isn't making it more difficult. It just makes it take longer. Even then. A difficult slider that just increases health and nothing else will always be stupid. Even in a tactical game. It just makes the fights more annoying and unbalanced. Unless you balance it around resource management or some other concept like Darkest Dungeon for example. With best case scenario would be everyone stealing the heat system from Hades. Actually have tangible things that make the game more difficult. Don't just release a slider that turns your game into an unbalanced mess and call it a day. Hence why just not doing difficulty sliders at all is honestly the best option. Have one congruent experience for everyone. Which is why people's first reaction to enemies literally just standing like training dummies is the way it is. It's not like this is Dark Souls as well. This looks like it has more in common with something like Forspoken than anything. Which also had really annoying damage sponges.

[@Masterpugway]

Love your stuff bro. You’ve just gained a sub

[@MrRys]

DA:I had a starting area, it was small compared to the rest of the game but it was still pretty open, you could jump around, take a different path.... here there is the road and then either a wall or a ditch on either side even a small city area like Val Royeaux was much more open than this

[@ninfreak95]

Gamble has already stated that the game opens up outside of story missions and has open world areas.

[@mon0lithic629]

Dude, it's a tutorial -- the hell did you expect? Do you not remember Inquisition's starting minutes? Also, we were only shown the start and the end of the tutorial, so you don't even know that much.

[@MrRys]

@@mon0lithic629 yes inquisition starting minutes were spent in small but open area... as I said in the original comment, did you read it? this is 2 meter wide road with walls on each side Also we were shown the start and end of this tutorial, which consisted of 20 minutes of walking and fighting on this 2 meter wide road, with enemies spawning in worse than they did in DA 2

[@mon0lithic629]

@@MrRys yes, a 2 meter wide road JUST LIKE THE ONE IN THE BEGINNING OF INQUISITION YOU DINGUS. Go right now and replay that segment. Literally do that. Non of what you makes sense. Also, spawning? You mean like they did IN INQUISITION? Y'know, when the sky spewed them down?

[@secretaprentice11]

I feel like if a game is open world, gamers compare about how empty and lifeless it is and if a game is linear and mission driven, gamers complain it's not open enough. You really can't win as a game developer in this area.

[@zach3640]

This game doesn't look like a dragon age at all. Looks like a fortnite style disaster. Everyone is super happy when the world is ending, this should be a dark game.

[@lucasp-max343]

What are you talking about( 17:10 )? They are trying to appeal to everyone, that's why the trailer looks like fortnite and the cartoon style along with the fact that it's not turnbase, but actually action. This game is the definition of trying to appeal to everyone in the mind of someone who looks at the biggest game online and sees Fortnite

[@eugkra33]

I never played the originals, but they all had similar gameplay like 13 years ago. Most combat is action style, with occasional ability to freeze the game to take actions. Cyberpunk has the ability to freeze the game almost when you hack. Lots of games have the ability to slow down time during certain actions. The amount of negativity on this game, and an attempt to spin it into something is weird. The art style looks like it's half way between "No Rest for the Wicked" and "Baldur's Gate 3". Ultra realistic art styles actually lack an art style. The more realistic graphics become, the more the same each game starts to look. Photo realistic games actually look boring once you're done being impressed with the fact that it looks real.

[@lucasp-max343]

@@eugkra33 similar gameplay: no, the gameplay is totally different. cartoon graphics: this franchise is dark fantasy and not Fortnite, imagine that tomorrow fromsoftware announces that it will imitate Fortnite's art style in dark souls. Not even the logo with a blood dragon that appeared in all the games they showed, not to mention the tone of the trailer that looks like Borderlands (Borderlands 3 to make matters worse). If you're not a fan and like it, go ahead, I'll wait a few months and see before I open my wallet

[@DizzyInfusion]

I loved DAO for its grittiness. Inquisiton had awesome looking Quinari and fun fights. But "Dreadwolf" is a true abomination, and they only had one job..and landed on their face.

[@Desmond-Dark]

The gameplay looks good. I'm excited. I'm a long time fan of the series and I'm eager to play this. I gotta save up for a new PC lol. EDIT: The way the ceremony is disrupted is beyond silly. However, Bioware's main story writing hasn't been too impressive for as long as they have been Bioware with like the exception of Baldur's Gate 1. Bioware games excel when it comes to music, gameplay, world building, atmosphere, and character interactions.

[@af4396]

Not only does it look childish and trend chasing, but on principle based on the game director I definitely am not wasting my money and time on this junk.

[@F34RDSoldier805]

Outside of the how shit and not DA it looks, people really need to remember that this is a Bioware game that has been through development hell for a long ass time and once was even a full Live Service game. It's pretty much Suicide Squad 2.0. A sequal to a series that is far from what they were tonally, gamneplay wise and visually and used to be a full on live service that they changed to single player (for suicide sqaud it stayed co-op and live service, but they pulled back on a lot of the live service for SS, even if not all). I have no clue how there are people who are not seeing the same exact red flags as with Suicide Squad.... It's practically a repeat.

[@Macheako]

I could’ve finished an entire doctorates degree 📜 in the time it took em to make this 6.1 outta 10

[@timjacobsen253]

Ive read they scrapped the first dreadwolf because it didnt work for a liveservice and on top of that all the old bioware who worked on that franchise left. So its sounds like it more catering to EA rater than fans.

[@ashN2f]

ammm, Baldur's gate was originally a Bioware product. As such, I can assure you that this "not-DragonAge" Dragon Age game will be mega-heavily critiqued with comparisons to baldur's gate 3 and the previous DA games... And honestly, the teaser and this trailer have gotten me off this game's scent mostly (95-99%) this is't what bioware (as we know the now mostly dead company) was, nor is this the DAO/DA2 game we (er, I ) fell in absolute love with to be able to repeatedly play till date like Mass Effect Trilogy...I have played DAInquisition (writings of DA property's and bioware's rich storytelling writer division's downfall was already seeming very real and written on the walls with DAI) a couple of times but just to complete the diff storylines/origins/chars but idk if ill be playing this (which, from the teaser-trailer before this gameplay one, looked like a bloody flipping gambler's paradise and kinder-eggs riddled, typical EA looter-shooter piss-poor shit game...). Yet coz of my fandom of MassEffect games and DAO/DA2 (and somewhat DAI), I'll continue to keep my finger's crossed and hope for the best despite it seeming like im preparing myself to be disappointed endlessly (I always expect nothing less from EA unless proven in general terms anyways...they can go choke on their "kinder-eggs"!...)

[@robjohnson3095]

This gameplay is like the recent Star Wars trilogy, in the first, the writer put in Luke's light saber, implied it was important, then in the second, a different writer didn't know what to do with, so Luke literally threw it away! That's what's happening here, they're just throwing Solas away ASAP so they can do something else. On top of that, this gameplay is having the player starts out fighting and beating Emperor Palpatine (Solas), and then go on to a new story for the rest of the game. So the player is going to start out strong, beating a god (Solas) and then as they play along and level up, they grow weaker, the fights get harder... Well, hopefully the new story they're throwing Solas away for is good enough.

[@JJJBunney001]

What, solas wasn't thrown away though...

[@MujisTavern]

@@JJJBunney001 lol bro has already known the full story before anyone

[@Matthew-ij3zm]

This doesn't look super polished at all. In fact, I can see that the issue with a certain delay/desync at the beginning of the cutscenes that DA:I had are still present here, which is... insane, really. It's better, less noticeable, but cutscenes still look kinda clunky. Not to mention the combat. This just looks like something that should have been released 3 years after Trespasser, not... 10.

[@MrHoll87]

I don't know what it is, but something about this game just looks... Off. Like maybe it's the art style or something, but it's just not what I expected Dragon Age to be, visually speaking.

[@raynortownly7098]

Could it maybe be that they whole screen is covered in pink. Just a wild guess.

[@MrHoll87]

@@raynortownly7098 Idk honestly. It just looks sort of like slightly polished WoW cinematics or something. It's weird.

[@bdecampc]

I couldn’t disagree more about not trying to take on Baldur’s Gate 3 as competition. Larian is obviously an incredible studio and topping BGIII would be a Herculean effort but it is important to consider that the only way that Larian got traction was by filling the gap that BioWare left behind when they started shifting further and further away from their roots as RPG designers. Beating the king at their own game is exactly what Larian did - they put BioWared BioWare. It is a shame to watch them trying to skulk off into making bland action games instead of trying to reclaim the glory they once had as the premier voice in narrative design, characters, and RPGs.

[@TheNightman.]

The only industry leading tech this game has is stupidity in story writing, character writing, creation, tone etc

[@powergirl3798]

Luke, to truly understand what a Dragon Age game is about, I recommend playing Dragon Age: Origins. This will give you a more credible perspective. Until then, your takes can't be taken seriously.

[@DigitalVariable]

I am interested in this D4agon Age got me into gaming keeping track of my decisions and the outcomes I loved that the decisions I made impacted the game in big ways.... I hope we get to see previous decisions impact this game 😊