Dragon Ball Daima's Action Animation is good (ep.3)

[@specialnewb9821]

The amount of care and work the animators are putting in here really is staggering. I cannot praise their efforts enough.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

real

[@e1622zelda]

Im very very impressed, this show is sooo much better than i thought it would be. It feels like real dragonball!!! But also somthing diffrent too.

[@dinogt8477]

No it doesn’t

[@e1622zelda]

@@dinogt8477 hope that made your day.

[@gibbsduhem1066]

​​@@dinogt8477 yes it does

[@AyerFrFr]

@@dinogt8477bro ain’t ever watch db a day in his life

[@realamericannegro977]

This feels nothing like Dragon Ball. Everything is toned down, fighting, music, animation, motivation. It's an okay show but Dragon Ball's time has passed and it's a zombie show.

[@Jenncysworld]

The bar fight scene was my favourite from that episode. Mini Goku in a bar beating bad guys to a pulp, it was so nicely animated with the spins, the burger in his mouth, using the plates and his pole. I rewatched the bar fight a couple of times, Love it. 🔥

[@animesoundaffects5915]

I’m so glad to get both the bar scene and the fight with the police officers almost back to back which were two of the scenes I looked forward to the most from the trailers X3

[@sonicpower1750]

It's crazy seeing the consistency of these videos because animation is such a nuance topic to me. The fact you can have such detailed and well thought out videos is incredible to me keep up the good work.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

appreciate it! defs a challenge

[@mechajay3358]

The art direction of the demon realm for this episode was really stellar, that and the character acting. But the highlight of this episode was definitely the mini battle with Goku and the demons

[@AliouneTheThird]

I’m glad they brought back old school Dragon Ball choreography that Mostly super And gt and Z we’re missing.

[@yourfinestlocalidiot]

Z had a lot of good choreography though, the first movie was literally the some of the best in the franchise, Piccolo vs 17, Goku vs Perfect Cell and some of the Goku v Majin Vegeta fight come to mind too

[@RK89dutch]

Z has excellent martial arts from sayan saga till cell Saga its top notch

[@AliouneTheThird]

@@yourfinestlocalidiot that’s not a ton of choreography for a long running anime like dragon ball

[@AliouneTheThird]

def not true there was a lot of tatata in a lot of she fights

[@JmanAnimates]

the fight scene was very Jackie-Chan like. I didn't think about it

[@dane1382]

i really loved the bar fight. lots of early DB energy!

[@spideyboy2358]

Man you are making these quick make sure not to burn yourself out

[@astrapsy]

Love your breakdowns! So glad dragon ball is back.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thanks man!

[@milicabojic9434]

Ayo, a Forgotten Relics video on time!?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yeah to out of character. next episode review will be posted in December to keep ya'll on your toes

[@airwicko1199]

😐​@@forgottenrelics1197

[@Steg1118]

i really liek your breakdown vieds and watch almost everyone on dragon ball, definitely is the thing that gets me the most pumped to animate myself is watching your break downs for some reason on my channel i posted some of my recent animations that have basically been inspired by your breakdown videos still very ametuer tho. Enjoy these weekly breakdowns would love if you did this for the whole series basically

[@RamenPerfected]

Peak content as always

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you

[@ScorpionZX6]

Loving these breakdowns dawg, keep it up 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you bro. appreciate it

[@rataqueso2307]

Are you planning all episodes? Cause i really enjoy this videos to be honest the part where goku is eating food and than the burger , water , salsa,etc spills i didn’t even think of how hard that little part was animated keep up the content 🎉

[@forgottenrelics1197]

not atm. i'll be away for a lot of December and will be starting a new job early next year which will make it really hard to have a new review out every week. so i'll have to put a pause on it eventually

[@mrpajamas3756]

I can’t wait to see a new storyboard director next week. It will be fun!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

for real

[@Gaming_Hub_UK]

I really loved the background music, it is very very JRPG, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy type music makes the whole adventure aspect even more fun to watch. I also love the new approach of next episode previews being extremely extremely short and not revealing much. Overall this episode was a very fun watch when it aired and personally I hope we get more lore about who exactly Warp Sama is because he does remind me of the Oracle Fish and I wonder if the both of them are of the same species or not or if Warp is an artificial being (highly unlikely) . Overall I can't wait to see what's more to come and who this mysterious king of the third demon world is and if Glorio is truly trustworthy.

[@darkeatervicar8387]

I've never even watched a single db episode before but love watching these breakdowns. Good to see some fandoms eating good unlike uzumaki and blue lock guys

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you 🧙‍♂

[@kbgrevolver4563]

Been really liking the post-DBS content Toei has been releasing ever since

[@FrankLeeYoung]

Daima definitely wasn't the first DB animation to showcase Jackie Chan style moves, early DBZ movies really took a lot from old Jackie Chan movies. Even Resurrection F lifted it's fights from famous 70's and 80's Hong Kong martial arts movies, not just Bruce Lee's One Inch Punch mind you. I'm gonna try to do a side by side of it when I get the chance, have always loved both DB and JC choreo.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Oh for sure, it's cool to see this style of action make a return

[@balrogdemorgoth4741]

It's insane how good it is so far.

[@DAVEREVIEWS-MOVIES]

You can tell they put a lot of the better animators on Episode 1 but what I can tell you is they are probably gonna save the best for last few episodes

[@juhis1620]

There is so much bad things happening in the world right now but at least we have some new dragon ball content! Have been enjoying sparking zero and daima this fall

[@RonPaul42069]

4:20 Why does that music sound familiar? It’s not just from the songs in the video description.

[@werewolfmiller2625]

Yashima 😅

[@fabriziodavilaalva2.074]

Aunque no lo haya visto el capítulo, dicen que es de transición (y una gran referencia a Latinoamérica) ¿tú qué crées?

[@Sleezy.Design]

Will there be an official manga adaptation as well, does anybody know?

[@t.b.g.animation6185]

As an animator I fell in love with this new art style but the highlight on characters is a bit off to me

[@TropicaIJay]

Any chance Chris or chansard shows up? Or even my goat Ota? I'd love to see em

[@El_Mince]

idk about chris and ota but chansard's probably a no

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I saw Chris posting up Daima on his insta story when it was announced. He rarely shares announcements like that unless he's on a production so it's possible he was teasing his involvement. In regards to Chansard and Ota, I would've said no if you had asked me a month ago but considering the OP anime has now gone on break, you might see a small guest appearance? Although if it was to happen, my guess is it would be towards the end of the series.

[@MisterGort]

Like I said, we’re eating so fuckin’ good. Since like 2021, I’ve wished for DragonBall to come back to form with it’s martial arts. Unrelated and possibly a hot take, Masako Nozawa I feel should definitely retire after Daima. She’s absolutely inspiring and I don’t want her to go out in the middle of production of a potential DBS sequel. What do you think??

[@dinogt8477]

Ur dumb and worthless

[@motivatemystics]

Can anyone kindly tell me what's the music's name in the background at the start of the video from 0:00 to 0:04. its not from the ones shown in music credits

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Genshin Impact ost - Days Free of Anguish 👍 Never thought to include it in the credits since it was footage from a separate vid -kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGjGhKiZq8qIn7M

[@motivatemystics]

Thank you so Much For Telling. Highly Appreciate it bro😊💯

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@motivatemystics all g man

[@DanielBakerFoster]

Don't you ever stop making videos.

[@bobdylan1968]

They should have finished it ahead of time and released the whole thing. I would have waited longer for that. I'm kinda blown away with how Japan hasn't evolved the way they do TV.. each episode is like 15 minutes long when you cut out the intro and outro... I'm going to wait until the series is done before I watch. I hate watching 15 minutes of the damn thing at a time.

[@FrenchPotato661]

🪼🪼🪼le goooooo

[@zekken8227]

:)

[@tomb_vision]

I like the animation because it doesn't look plastic. I hate most new anime because of that look. I like Jujutsu Kaisen animation tho. I think Daima looks dope. 3d will always be bad. Couldn't even watch the DragonBall Gohan movie. Whatever that shit is called

[@carloscauan7967]

"3D will always be bad" is a lie.

[@mechadeka]

>3d will always be bad. >has a Spider-verse avatar

[@tomb_vision]

Damn bros. Chill out. You always this pissed off

[@RBatman5000]

This is such a dumb take, Superhero does CG really well, you need to open your mind and try new things

[@turbotrup96]

5:14 This is what I always disliked about modern DB animation - it lacked that Z style of impact which made punches and kicks feel so much more powerful. It wasn't exclusive to the 2nd half of the show either, just look up Vegeta vs Recoome. Interestingly enough, they still have been using it at least in the RoF Movie. Example: Goku's famous one-inch punch followed by an immedient kick that Freeza blocks. Anyway, I don't think Daima is pulling it off well (yet). Super sometimes tried to copy it (Gogeta VS Broly, Vegito VS Zamasu) - but with its overly smooth animation and weak sound design, it just didn't work.

[@gibbsduhem1066]

Sounds like a whole load of confirmation bias tbh. That's like saying limited animation is better than what we are getting here. They aren't trying to copy everything from the old dbz style but they are trying integrate it with modern techniques. In this scene, they did an outstanding Job. You gotta accept that not every element modern animation has is bad, like you literally mention smoothness as an element that takes away the dbz feel lmao

[@Tornado71-pt7qe]

How about Super Dragonball Heroes anime Goku vs Hearts?the Animation. Was clean there too

[@turbotrup96]

@@gibbsduhem1066 The problem with your logic is that you think smoother/newer automatically means better. And that's horse s***. This is exactly why old DB feels so much more unique to modern Anime. If the essence of DB's animation style was related to its year of production, I don't care. It just was iconic. Meanwhile, current DB animation looks like current One Piece. But, ok, I'm guessing you don't care about soul, the original charm of the series... It still doesn't change the fact the impacts felt more dynamic because of how snappier they were. When you overnaimate a swing, it feels slower. This is the same case when you play older video games vs newer. Like, compare DMC3/4 with 5, or Metal Gear Rising with Nier Automata, or Kingdom Hearts 2 with 3. I mean, you literally have some examples here, do you think ANY punch in Super felt like those, in terms of power? Like, do you remember Jiren VS Blue Vegeta? In that one episode that looked exceptionally good, as if Yamamuro in his peak drew it. The hit impacts there STILL sucked ass. Jiren's hits felt like SLAPS in comparison to the Z's style of attacks. I'm not exaggerating. Look it up. The timing of frames is VERY important. you can't just expect that smooth animation will solve everything.

[@gibbsduhem1066]

@@turbotrup96 the problem with your statement is that you think limited animation has impact. Well, it does but not like this. Animating a small portion of your body doesn't distribute the impact well imo. The bar scene did a pretty good job because the technique was applied in situations that worked well, like when the punch was blocked for some time to show both characters were struggling, and when he grabbed the guys hand for a while to show he was struggling. Now, the majority of the cuts he showed from dbz, the technique was applied in situations that didn't necessarily need it, like a successful punch. There's no need for that unless you want depict impact in the most limited way, and that's why you see the vigorous camera shakes with the animation being looped momentary to depict impact. Dbz really overused these to save budget, otherwise there were animated cuts in comparison. It's okay if you prefer that, but I think animating every element of the body works better in that case. A great example is when goku gets punched by jiren in episode 109 and the camera switches to gokus face that gets animated fully instead of being placed in a loop, that's a perfect way to depict the impact of the blow. If that was old dbz, they would simply place in few frames and do the occasional loop animations on some part of the body. I don't get how that somehow carries impact. It works well given they had limited resources, but using that in modern times in those scenes is not going to elevate the scene. The jiren vs vegeta find was clearly limited. It lacked smoothness and that's the essence you were looking for. Only difference is, it lacked the needles camera shakes, and the speed lines to depict impact. I think some cuts were looped last I checked. All in all, it got nerfed primarily because it was limited, and not because of smoothness. They didn't let yuya takahashi realize he's vision. Thank God he had the chance to in broly. Those cuts were as fluid as they could be, I imagine your eyes were craving for limited animation in the majority of the cuts in broly. So much needless confirmation bias! I don't know how games have anything to do with hand drawn animation tbh. All in all, it's okay to prefer the old style but you gotta at least have some proper points to back it up instead of calling well animated cuts limited. Animation is subject but your points to support opinion are uneducated.

[@turbotrup96]

@@gibbsduhem1066 Z used it during the best animated sequences, so you're already wrong there. I've watched that 109 ep. gut punch just now, and it looks worse than the impacts in Z. And Z also used that similar technique anyway, like when Goku gut punched 100% Freeza. Though, it looked better there. You can look it up on YT, it's easy to find. Did you know that even Jackie Chan stated that to make a hit feel more powerful on camera, it's good to repeat it a few times in a row? kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGKzdKd_lrKSfbM The Broly movie had the best fight scenes in modern DB. That being said, yes, they never got the impact of the attacks quite as well as Z did. Video games also work with frames, like cartoons/anime. More modern video games often have a much more fancy animation partly because it's mocapped, but because of that attacks look so smooth that they don't feel as sudden. It's an illusion, but it works.

[@spitfiremanlizerd]

The story, setting and concept are all uninteresting. But the animation is keeping this from being insultingly bad like super. For me, it's enough to make an attempt and being whimsical and look good. Daima has good intentions, it's not just exploiting the audience for a quick cash grab.

[@garka6135]

It is not You're just yapping at this point Crazy I used to like your content tho

[@forgottenrelics1197]

have you watched the episode or?

[@Santzu_]

So far I'm not too impressed. The animation has been average to me, I don't like the art style at all and this third episode was pretty poor. I hope it gets better

[@forgottenrelics1197]

what did you think about the 4th one?

[@Santzu_]

@forgottenrelics1197 More or less the same. There was more good animation but there was 0 plot progression and I'm still not too impressed by the visuals. I've only been impressed by the color work so far

[@Platelunchexpress]

The show is so bad…

[@forgottenrelics1197]

nah

[@Platelunchexpress]

@ glazer

[@forgottenrelics1197]

​@@Platelunchexpress yeah you right, my bad for liking cartoon show

[@Platelunchexpress]

@ it’s ok, next time just try and do better ✌️

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@Platelunchexpress i will, ty for the support 🙏

[@aqualucasYT]

Bro milkin this

[@forgottenrelics1197]

by doing weekly breakdowns? 💀

[@pearlydewdropsfall]

Smartest zoomer

[@aqualucasYT]

@@forgottenrelics1197I respect the grind 😼

[@mauricejohnson2351]

Fam you can leave 😭

[@JustAsh001]

​@@aqualucasYT"how dare an animation related youtuber make an animation related video every week" 😡😡

[@eazylegend9614]

It good but the art design is terrible They look to childish wish they kept the broly movie artstyle

[@floatingoliver562]

You know...they uh.. They're kids

[@Santzu_]

@@floatingoliver562 They look like chibi versions of themselves, and I don't like the art style

[@philswift8793]

​@Santzu_ Well Daima better watch out then, you don't like it so that means it's on thin ice