Dragon Ball Sparking ZERO Vegeta (Z) Moveset

[@shecklesmack9563]

Him saying “Begone trash!” only in his early and Majin forms is A+ attention to detail showing his character development

[@qwertyMrJINX]

I think it's funny that Scouter Vegeta's canonical weakest attack is his ultimate. What should his Ultimate be? The attack he used to try and destroy the Earth? The attack he used to kill Zarbon? The attack he used to try to kill Frieza? No! The attack he used to kill a Saibaiman and Cui, of course!

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

It's gotta be the two supers, one ultimate structure which means one has to kind of think to get creative and varied. With Raging Blast having so many options, it made sense why they finally retired it as an ultimate there.

[@viewtifuljoe4412]

Or the bug planet ending attack lol

[@johnaustin2836]

​@@viewtifuljoe4412 lol

[@wilbestvids]

genocide breaker or maybe the attack he used on recoome or his final burst cannon

[@GIR177]

If Dragonball FighterZ is anything to go by, the attack he used to kill Nappa would be cool

[@blastthechaos6083]

Cosmic Circle is a reference to the Buuhan fight before they fused.

[@DouglasStewart99]

He also does this in the LR STR Goku & Vegeta (Angel) Ultra Super Attack in Dokkan, right?

[@ChrisWrightReally]

​@@DouglasStewart99 Yep

[@deotic]

What do you expect from a non fan who thinks they know everything

[@webbiefade14]

Ok new theory: Scouter Vegeta should range from Saiyan saga to early Namek (pre-ginyu force). Early Z Vegeta should range from post Ginyu Namek to Cell saga. This way his base form is not generic and just has all of the attacks he did during the remainder of his time on namek. This way he could have genocide breaker and final galick cannon as his attacks since Cell saga Vegeta never actually fought or had any action in his base form. This of course is a solution if they never give us technique customization again (which was an absolutely STUPID decision to not include from Raging Blast)

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

That might be good for if they ever continue the Sparking series. Now that they've made the game, if they are willing to go the route of the other BT games and reuse assets to save time and resources, it might be easier for them to put in more techniques, especially customization.

[@Travis371]

There should be Scouter Vegeta and "Early Vegeta" Early Vegeta having Final Crash (energy blast on Recoome), Genocide Breaker (the attack that killed Jeice) and his all-out energy blast he used on Freeza's final form before he started crying

[@arsilnaseer2023]

@@Travis371 that’s what I was thinking too loool!

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@Travis371 I'd say that's what they should do for Base Vegeta for the Cell Saga stuff. Give him the armor he wore on Namek as an alternate costume and those moves and since in whatever story mode they make they'd lock your transformations anyway, it would work as a means of giving you a good base Vegeta moveset and it would fit even for the Cell Saga considering he was still cold and cruel at this point.

[@webbiefade14]

@@Travis371 that's pretty much exactly as I said. Final Galick Cannon is that all out blast he did against Frieza if I'm remembering what Raging Blast called it correctly

[@spartanq7781]

Getting rid of Genocide Breaker and Final Burst Canon is a crime. They really did buff SS2 Vegeta though and Spirt Breaking Canon is perhaps the best it has ever been.

[@awsomedude23456]

The spirit breaking canon is alright but I miss how RB did it, giving us the hard kick, then the reaction from the victim

[@spartanq7781]

@awsomedude23456 That was peak. Counter moves need to return. This game largely ingores Raging Blast much to my dismay. It handled movesets far better. The biggest advantage was it made it so we didn't need three Z Gokus and Vegetas. So we could have Yardrat drip SS3 Goku. The first game had a solid story mode something this game cannot say.

[@awsomedude23456]

@ tbh I don’t mind all the different versions of the characters, the biggest downside of the budokai format that DB had over it was having 4 supers instead of 2. Plus you could swap them. This game during its “story mode” seemed to have different supers and ultimates but for some reason in the versus mods you can’t customize them

[@nessdbest8708]

Nope, tenkaichi 2's is still the best.

[@spartanq7781]

@nessdbest8708 The story mode drags and is just text fight more text. The third game gets things moving and improved the gameplay. Personally I didn't care for the upgrade system from the second game so there is that too.

[@jfoster5331]

You’re wrong, Majin Vegeta’s “Final Impact” is definitely just a concentrated ki ball in the anime.

[@Zacman1123]

No it's a beam.

[@nathanshelton9420]

Yeah, it was a beam

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@Zacman1123 It's actually more complicated. It's an energy ball but drawn like a beam. It's commonly depicted as a beam in the games because of the scene where it's depicted going through Boo. It's kind of like how for the sake of animation, you'll sometimes see a blast stretch as though it's a beam.

[@DragonNM46]

@@the-aspiring-creator4249 Yeah, I looked up the scene from the show and it’s definitely not a beam.

[@WolfXGamerful]

@@the-aspiring-creator4249 So it's basically just an energy ball with a long tail? I can see why SZ did it like that.

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

I liked a lot that they took attacks from filler episodes to make buu's saga ssj and ssj2 vegeta moveset, ssj buu saga vegeta ultimate is from the fight he had with buuhan and ssj2 buu saga vegeta ultimate is from the combo that he did againts kid buu (vegeta missed the last hit and he did not do the final flash against kid buu).

[@GojiBoiEarth1964]

THE SAIYANS ARE A TRUE WARRIOR RACE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@espurrseyes42]

DON'TUNDERESTIMATEUS!

[@DragonNM46]

I still love that they kept that line.

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

1:42 - 1:44 if you are using a giant character against a small character and the small character is on the floor you need to press down while you press the attack bottom in order to hit your opponent.

[@oumar-michaelkonate3724]

I wish they used the "You can't escape" line on SSJ Buu Vegeta's ultimate. It helps make more sense.

[@williammccreavy6434]

Majin Vegeta’s final impact was corrected actually, it should not be a beam. I agree that Dirty Fireworks lost momentum in this version. It’s been my general complaint with Sparking Zero, I find the choreography of some returning attacks were weakened compared to what came before (I’ll never stop complaining about Burst Rush). What’s odd in this case is Sparking Zero usually removes part of the choreography if it wasn’t canon but in this case they added punches that aren’t in the anime or manga. It’s possible they added it to make the move longer compared to other attacks. Z Early Base Vegeta moveset I still find completely acceptable. There’s really nothing to pull from. The most Z Early does in battle is kick Android 19 once. I’m glad they just put all the generic moves in one spot. I also have to push back on Final Flash being just a beam on release, BT1-3 didn’t do a beam going out into space, that’s a B3 thing. Unless you’re arguing Final Flash specifically should have that as an end visual, and not that it’s an inherent stage effect. EoZ Vegeta is definitely one of the characters that had the biggest glow up. Adding a rush for finishing Pui Pui in place of another Galick Gun was a great choice that RB I imagine was more than partially responsible for. I also appreciate the energy volleys being retooled to have him perform them the way Vegeta does in the Buu Saga against Kid Buu. SSJ1 Vegeta having Cosmic Circle as his ultimate is another example of more effort going in to make the character feel unique. I personally would have preferred SSJ2’s ultimate being his rush down attack on Beerus in BoG that they gave to DBS SSJ1 Vegeta, as Vegeta is in SSJ2 when he does it, but I get that EoZ is not DBS. Overall I think Vegeta was given a lot of justice.

[@Zacman1123]

Final Impact is suppose to be a beam.

[@DragonNM46]

@@Zacman1123 Look up the scene from the show and you’ll see it’s a ball. It’s stretched out when it hits Buu, but it’s still significantly closer to a ball than a beam.

[@Zacman1123]

@@DragonNM46 no it's definitely a beam. Plus except for Frieza's Death Ball/Supernova when has a finger move ever been a ball?

[@ikevinxser]

Gonna interject on behalf of Dirty Fireworks, it was like that in the manga. The anime that butchered it into having it only be a gut punch launcher. I'm so glad to see you back fullforce. It's always a treat

[@chefinabottle]

The glow up for end Vegeta is amazing

[@garytina7009]

Final Impact was basically a sniper shot in the anime. Raging Blast got that part of it wrong by making it a beam. What it got RIGHT though, was the reaction of it punching through the opponent and them spiraling backward from it. Its exclusion is sorely missed in Sparking Zero.

[@JackOfen]

Tenkaichi 3 made it a beam way before Raging Blast.

[@klikssiikubra314]

Final Impact was a beam in the manga though, so it's fair

[@ChicagoScorpion]

It would have been so cool if Vegeta Scouter had that Final Crash attack he used on Recoome as his Ultimate.

[@garristhemont1586]

Super Saiyan Vegeta's big bang attack is fucking phenomenal I just wish he had a big smile on his face like he did in the anime/manga

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

I think his face is even better here it fits

[@raitaylor]

Really dropped the ball with Vegeta scouter. So many attacks he used that could've been in the game with a change in armor.

[@ExoGrimz]

Omega: "I miss the days of beams shooting off of the planet." Me: *Glances over at Fighterz* "Hold on to hope for those days are not over yet (also, maybe give Fighterz a try since it's fixes a lot of the issues you have with SZ's visuals lol)."

[@galanga21890]

7:09 i love that they gave him the little hops he did against Pui Pui

[@embani]

I miss the BT2 version of Spirit Breaking Cannon. The knee to the chest followed by chucking them away gave it alot more personality.

[@Idkitzjushdc]

I can't fault them too much for not giving Android Saga Base Vegeta anything due to him not fighting at all in the form. However, the devs should’ve just given him Genocide Breaker as a rush move if they weren’t able to give it to scouter Vegeta. Also, it would show that while Vegeta might be on the side of good, he’s still somewhat evil, like an anti-hero of sorts.

[@Mathieo_Xanneke]

2:44 small note but giants can target the ground with the perception button.

[@zyad48]

I still don't get why they didn't just give Vegeta (Early) his missing Frieza-saga moves... Like, here, I'll make you a moveset Explosive Wave "I have become a Super Saiyan!" (Make it cost 1 skill stock specifically so you can spam it as a reference to the anime) Final Crash (I don't think _any_ game has this move, he tried to kill Recoome with it!) Genocide Breaker Final Burst Cannon I've talked about this with others even prior to release and they mention he has a few moves he used in the movies too that they could have given this specific Vegeta, but if they didn't want to, I don't get why his Frieza saga moves are just gone :(

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

Honestly the more one thinks about it? The more it seems bizarre that we've always had the issue of Base Vegeta (Early) not having anything to pull from when really it's because they keep making him a pure Cell Saga Vegeta when he should really be Freeza to Cell.

[@zyad48]

@the-aspiring-creator4249 exactly!

[@Zacman1123]

Cosmic Circle is one of the coolest Ultimates in this game.

[@filipporomor8140]

4:35 HYDRO VEGETA IN SPARKING ZERO

[@LoyalistViral]

Still can't believe Vegetas story ends at Buu, actual joke

[@weirdface1846]

real, could had a fight with golden frieza, rose goku black, fused zamasu (as vegito blue), and many fighters from top...

[@Davemester]

Why is it a beam? 10:07

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

The final impact criticism is weird, in that the the show made it seem normal like a blast with long tail instead, so I don’t know what you mean by it isn’t final impact, as it’s not a straight up beam but a longer blast.

[@DarkonFullPower]

2:02 "I'll break you!" 2:07 "I'll vaporize you!" 2:21 *"I'll kill you!"* Lol I kinda like that.

[@ParaSergi55]

In Japanese he still says the "Beautiful Fireworks" line, idk why they changed it for the dub

[@Quickbobhero]

Vegeta (except maybe End) really got hit by the lack of sound effects and overly drawn out movesets here. The simpleness and brutality was the highlights of his older movesets, especially Scouter.

[@rubberwoody]

the goat is back

[@majorxadamska]

Hellzone Grenade didn’t work either, sad to see a creative use of volley attacks be just as unsuccessful as regular volleys.

[@Lssj100]

8:50 thats the move he tried to use on Buuhan

[@NegativKreep]

0:06 ayooo why he got a buldge? 🤨

[@theflashfan3234]

0:05 holy shit Vegeta is PACKING

[@user-sx4qu4dz9z]

One thing I really do miss is the big white marble looking Big Bang Attack that SSJ Vegeta used to have in Raging Blast. Shit was just so mesmerizing and it always felt so powerful when it got launched

[@ratmanratterton7767]

Did you know by holding down while attacking you can hit enemies who are too low for great apes standard melee

[@shadedias5563]

You can also press the counter button on giants.

[@DualFelines]

I really love what they did with Buu Saga Vegeta's movesets generally speaking and none of his other iterations from Z feel terrible. His one more basic moveset doesn't feel like such a glaring issue when the rest of them are so fleshed out.

[@NurseValentineSG]

I didn't even realize how all moves on giant ape vegeta have him go "I'll ______ you!" before charing up and firing an attack. What a silly little guy.

[@LThanhHao232]

0:03 DBZ Sparking ZERO goes out of it way to show that Vegeta have a massive dong to compensate for his lack of height

[@DemonicNatsu]

10:20 the cuts to black are referred to as impact frames and in fairness, those impact frames are in the anime for the attack. Points for accuracy, I guess?

[@superiorgamedude]

So glad they gave Buu Vegeta the respect he deserved.

[@あらすとる]

8:19 Vegeta, I'm sorry to say this, but I don't think you blocked that attack.

[@FVerdi25]

Since Vegeta Scouter has lots of different moves and Vegeta (Android saga) has basically none, they could have split the moves between those characters. For example Vegeta (Scouter) is from the fight with Goku through the fight with Dodoria, so he can have Galick Gun, the rush he killed Dodoria with, and Dirty Fireworks. Then the other one could have been from the Zarbon fight though the android saga, so with Galick Gun, Final Galick Gun and the final attack he used on Frieza.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

This is something I've very much been on. Scrap the Namek armor for Scouter Vegeta, give him in its place his first appearance colors and instead give the Namek armor to base Vegeta. Then you can have say Final Crash, the blast he used on Recoome, Genocide Breaker, what he did to kill Jeice and then finally Final Burst Cannon. It'd especially work because then in a weird way Final Flash as Super Vegeta has more impact and is properly built to.

[@MakoShiruba]

Big Bang Attack animation on Majin is perhaps taken from his Attack done to the Crowd at the World Martial Arts Tournament. The pose and color of the blast seem to match. I dunno what it is about Final Impact and making it a Full Power Death Beam, it’s so wrong. And yet, despite that, I prefer it because Piercing Attacks just don’t seem to work for me. Death Beam and Death Beam Barrage just…feel wrong. But even so, I think FullPower Death Beams can’t clash in this game? Just overall weird stuff.

[@ahmadsallehuddin7583]

Yes, that's attack he use against Goku at World Tournament, and it should be a beam.

[@TreyPDB]

The "your fired" line is a reference to Kai's English dub

[@fissilewhistle]

It definitely works better in that context, though.

[@artasky6093]

My guy is back with budoki stuff

[@spaghettiking7312]

Honestly, I think it would've been better to give Cell Saga Vegeta the additional moves from Namek he could've had: the move he used to kill Jeice, which was a rush in Raging Blast, the beam which was his final attack against Frieza, even that Final Flash-like two-handed beam he used on Recoome, which hasn't been in a game. That way, you also could fulfill the fan fiction of having Vegeta go Super Saiyan on Namek. I think it would make more sense too, given it's not like Vegeta on Namek even had the tail anymore to become a Great Ape.

[@ShivamSharma-ho1ni]

Vegeta does use hellzone grenade against buuhan

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

the final explosion looks a little undercooked, it's little things like this that i hope can get fixed later on

[@espurrseyes42]

Scouter Vegeta in particular gets done dirty by the limited movesets in the Tenkaichi games. Even if you made a 2nd Early Getes to cover just Namek, he still wouldn't have room for everything. No Super Explosive Wave (regular Explosive Wave clearly isn't what he was using to try and kill the cast after the Spirit Bomb). No Galaxy Breaker (used to kill Nappa). No bootleg Destructo Disc assuming that's not a special Charge Ki Blast. His RB supers are gone. You could even give him the pre-Final Flash he did on Recoome.

[@samherrera2926]

Yeah the space beams not being here are disapointing especially since that a lot of the end parts of beams like final flash all look the same with just a different color

[@Pedro93ssj]

"I miss the days of seeing the beams going to space" Well i think we need a Dragon ball: Budokai 4 game now!

[@BillyBob125]

*Budokai 5 Budokai 4 already exists; it's called Dragon Ball Z: Infinite World.

[@blur7491]

7:57 I am shocked you didn't mention that the start up for his ult references him almost blowing up babidi's ship.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Ooooh yeahhh true

[@VEGETABREIFS-b1y]

But no burst cannon, he used in the ragging blast 1 & 2 games, they should have taken all the super moves and ultimate attacks from ragging blast series and budokai tenkaichi series and put them in this game. But I do like how crashing opponents in to large rocks don't destroy the whole rock, only do half.

[@22SK-g5d]

25-35 would be great if that suit wasn't so damn tight

[@Realdeal958]

End Of Z Vegeta is my favorite by far. I personally feel he's the best one

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Facts and super vegeta

[@HoDoBoDo]

Majin Vegeta 😌. My main 😈.

[@TheGodGemini]

You really wanted to avoid the "Infinite Blaster" technique for that veredict huh....

[@superpaytonmars8852]

8:57 And on that note, Majuub still kinda sucks but his ultimate finally works!

[@Blacklightning95]

I think majin vegeta big bang attack was referenced from when he fired it at goku

[@pages4573]

Shame that they changed the ult back for vegeta scouter. The attack he did on Frieza seemed for fitting as an ult. But besides that Vegeta Z is overall a pretty sizable step up from his super counterpart.

[@GANGST]

10:48 I always wondered what Vegeta said when he fired the final impact. Now I know.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

🤣

[@henriquelambcastellanos8439]

Why the Hell does he not say "dirty fireworks"? I'm pretty sure he says it in the manga, in Japanese even. And it was in the previous game. "I'm afraid you're fired" is so lame lmao. At least they kep the "crush you like a grape" line, which I believe is also Toriyama's.

[@FlashX212]

It feels like there was a lot of missed opportunities with these movesets

[@elfonditonegro]

I keep asking myself: why don't people use Vegeta z Early and End... Both are pretty good and can counter after image strike users.

[@kazuma913]

I want to see a Super Vegeta with the attack he did again 2nd form Cell. Big bang crash is it? Where he fires a few ki blasts and then one big one into the water.

[@oumar-michaelkonate3724]

I miss the last part of the Spirit Breaking Cannon. It's not very welcome, but it's an entertaining addition.

[@FalsoAnonimus92]

Is just me or Big Bang in ssj2 takes forever to go out? Like 2 seconds in this game is a lot to launch a beam

[@yagerati3702]

Seeing those great ape super is triggering my ptsd.

[@Laekith]

7:52 Finally someone else agrees this ultimate is awkward.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

It’s not

[@chaoscateriano7170]

KO hope you do Cabba next.

[@brewer7290]

Wish Scouter Vegeta had more supers like Raging Blast gave him

[@rafaelrios7060]

i wish he had the rush he had in raging blast ss3 vegeta.

[@Coreyy12]

Okay to be fair, I can see why Mid Vegeta’s base form moveset is so basic. I mean remember this is when he finally achieved Super Saiyan so he literally *NEVER* fought in base. So it’s kinda like “Well, what moves should we even give this Vegeta?” Stick with the basics I guess

[@sanctityninja9345]

Did yall get a db legends ad before this

[@PlatypusKing10]

That BT1 moveset would be infinitely better with the ultimate swapped for anything else. Worse thing is it’s still technically a better version of Majin Vegeta’s ult because he doesn’t fucking die

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

But majin vegeta's explosive wave is unblockable and i think that android saga base vegeta's explosive wave is blockable.

[@joshuaanthony4707]

I noticed that they nearly made him say son of a b

[@canteloupe3254]

Honestly, wish Galaxy Breaker was a move in these games

[@DragonspineInfiniteZero]

The more i watch the more it feels like a prettier BT3 which isnt bad but after raging blast took bt3 and trimmed the fat it feels cluttered. like sure seperated sayian saga vegeta from cell-buu vegeta but i feel if they kept the customizable moves and just combined Z and super vegetas it couldve been better. and didnt raging blast also have supers and blast ones mapped to the stick? why the face buttones your gonna stop dead eitherway

[@DarkonFullPower]

5:31 Anyone else illrationally sad he didn't do the thumb pose? Edit: 5:52 6:00 I spoke too soon!

[@MajinLordVegeta]

Every video, reminded how this franchise hasn’t gotten past characters only having 2 supers. Pathetic.

[@picassojulien899]

You should include how much damage each attack does.

[@kirbyh644]

0:05 im not going crazy right....

[@globox123456789]

Wait, why is that one Big Bang Attack a beam?

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

That was how it was in the anime for a portion of the Kid Buu fight I believe.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

1:23 He didn't. Vegeta at this time is just that dirty of a fighter that he's willing to just throw the flow off just to punch somebody more. Joking aside, yeah it's weird flow-wise. Then again looking back, I felt Dirty Fireworks in BT3 went a little fast.

[@rubberwoody]

it always bothered me when base forms had "max power up" blast 1s

[@M3rtyville]

I would have swapped Vegeta's second blast with his ultimate. Also why is Z Vegeta's aura white? It should be dark blue in base form. Early Vegeta that can turn SSJ has such a lame moveset. Can't they just add stuff from the fight against Final Form Frieza or Super 13 movie? Or here is an idea, why not add the rush he used against Recoom early in the fight as an Ultimate where he used the blue Final Flash like move? Early SSJ Vegeta should have Big Bang attack as a generic move and replace the boring beam. As an Ultimate I feel the rush he used against Metal Cooler would be cool where the finished him off with finger beams. Maybe it would look weird considering he used it alongside Goku. Meh... End Vegeta also seems to suffer from lack of stuff to take from. It makes it really disappointing wasting even a lot for him. I mean you only lose on non-Majin SSJ2. Can't tell pull stuff from the movies pls? Janemba, Hildeguard... heck, even Battle of Gods with that "MY BULMA" cringe. I recall Toriyama never reusing attacks for Vegeta and Piccolo in the manga so seeing so many Big Bang attacks, Galick Guns, Final Flashes (or Special Beam Cannon in case of Piccolo) feels kinda wrong. At least they took some moves from filler like the Hell Zone Granate he used against Kid Boo in Super Saiyan.

[@darkside6101]

How did he go ape if he didn’t have a tail

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

Power Ball... though really it's animation stuff. Considering how Vegeta spends more of Dragon Ball without a tail than with, it'd be immensely crappy to lock a transformation behind one costume.

[@darkside6101]

@ I always thought in bt3 that they separated vegeta with a scouter and tail from namek vegeta. Maybe I was wrong

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@darkside6101 They didn't. They always gave Scouter Vegeta his Namek outfit as an alt costume.

[@teddybeer6206]

He does say the "Nice Fireworks" line...but in japanese 😂😂😂 They're taking liberties with the translation again...it's 1999 all over again.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

They've always kind of done that. In this case... it's not a big deal. It's a smug quip replacing another smug quip.

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

2:54 - 4:04 yes it has the same moveset from BT3 but what else the developers could do?, vegeta did not fight at all in base in cell's saga so the moveset is perfect for him, the garlick gun is ok, the volley is a signature move for vegeta and the explosive wave is a perfect move when you do not know what to give to a character, i think if there is another dragon ball game in the future this vegeta will have this moveset 😂😂😂😂.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

They could do a few things. For one thing, they could borrow moves from Vegeta in other periods. For instance, say Genocide Breaker goes here. Timeline-wise it wouldn't fit but character-wise it's exactly the kind of cruel move Vegeta would pull. Hell, it'd be a good replacement for Super Explosive Wave since that was used to kill someone and you could make it a "Few hits but great impact" kind of deal. They also could just make up attacks or go for deep cuts. As Boo Vegeta shows with his moves being pulled from filler, if you take a bit of time to look through the series or think of stuff, you could come out with some fun moves that are more unique. Plus, it's just the fact he's been rocking this same moveset since BT1.

[@angeljulioogandomejia1035]

@the-aspiring-creator4249 Unfortunatelly taking moves from the fillers episodes is not an option for cell's saga vegeta because there is nothing to take, even in the movies where cell's saga vegeta appears (metal cooler, android 13, 1st broly movie and boujack's movie) there is nothing for take for create a moveset because he transforms in ssj right away.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@angeljulioogandomejia1035 That's why you get creative generally. For instance, I'd say considering this is early Vegeta still in terms of personality, you set an era where you start and one to cut off. Hell, you could even take a move from Super Saiyan Vegeta and give it to base if it means having a more interesting moveset. I mean we're used to weirdness what with BT3 giving Namek era Goku Meteor Combination which is based on the flurry of strikes he landed on Piccolo during the 23rd World Tournament. Really it's one of those instances where it's understandable but it leads to one just thinking they could've done something.

[@tylercoon1791]

Ve-Z-ta

[@cywh1711]

Costumes change movesets in the game, so there was literally 0 reason to cut most of Scouter Vegeta's other attacks like Genocide Breaker or Final Burst Cannon.

[@haloeightYT]

My Vegeta impression: "Dadada!" Also when does ever say "burst open and mix"?

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

In the manga and Japanese version. He even says it in Kai I believe.

[@haloeightYT]

@the-aspiring-creator4249 Oh ok. I'm not certain what's being mixed though

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@haloeightYT It's referring to the Blutz waves, the stuff that Saiyans absorb when they gaze into the moon to turn Oozaru. The Power Ball maneuver when it... well opens upon Vegeta closing his fist activates and thus it's mixing with the Blutz Waves.

[@haloeightYT]

@the-aspiring-creator4249 I must be a true Dragon Ball fan cuz I can't read

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@haloeightYT Lol. Joking aside, no, it's just more on the early dubs for cutting those out initially with Funimation while they still used the Ocean cast infamously having that story bit replaced with making up nonsense about Bardock being a brilliant scientist who invented the Power Ball while on a mission with Vegeta. As a result since that's what people grew up with? Later media going back to what was present in the source often resulted in the more accurate lines confusing people.

[@deotic]

Tell me you didn't watch the show without telling me you didn't watch the show

[@TyroneTG3]

No Final Cannon either!? Boooooo Raging Blast was Better!!!! LOL

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Crybaby

[@Keurgui1]

Raging Blast games did all of thse better and those games are over a decade old Shit's so cooked lol

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Better what?

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Vegeta end is better in sparking zero no debate

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 End's better but that's for moveset choice. Otherwise, it really feels like aside from the visuals that a lot of moves in SZ are lacking that punch and weight that they had in BT3 or even RB. In particular, RB did a good job of giving hits during rushes slight pauses for you to feel the impact. SZ, it feels like some attacks do that but they kind of try to get through them quickly.

[@wilbestvids]

scouter vegeta has the best moveset plain and simple hes missing genocide breaker and final burst canon