DRAGON BALL SUPER BROLY NEW 'BLIZZARD' TRAILER - ANIMATION BREAKDOWN

[@AnimeAjay]

UH. I meant to say TAKASHI* Hashimoto, not Shinji. Making videos in the middle of the night is a bad idea. Sorry.

[@christianmarcotte4068]

AnimeAjay yeah this isn’t a square enix movie fam

[@yahsworld2940]

It's okay, it fits well with how you look 90% of time, tired as hell, LOL.

[@ricardirickydorante5894]

I was about to say lol, when did my boi Shinji learn to draw at Square Enix lol. I thought Normura drew stuff😂

[@almightyglo290]

So u prefer the goofy SSG over serious SSG? Weird

[@marconeves1979]

I had no idea people were actually FIGHTING (arguing) about this. It all looks high quality to me in this film, so it doesn't bother me, but yes.... sometimes I DO notice differences. But I like them all, so YAY!

[@TotallyNotMark]

This was a fascinating video. Exceptional breakdown!

[@KidWithTheNoFace]

Oh My God ! It's Not Mark

[@tonyhills6673]

Woah I read this in your voice and I threw myself off.

[@tintinsimon]

Totally Not Mark there you are!

[@marflo9241]

Hi

[@hihu3749]

Mark

[@Sebzrod78]

I think there are strong reasons why Takahashi was allowed to ignore the character sheets. I mean, they know audiences love his nostalgic approach and will not care if he deviates from Shintani's original ideas.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

I remember the first time Ajay picked up on the discrepancy: He said, "...Takahashi isn't following the character sheets, but I don't think anyone in the world cares," or something like that.

[@paladin3116]

I would just let him do the entire movie honestly, no one would complain lol

[@thundercat123studios]

@@paladin3116 I would complain. There are animators that are superior to Takahashi in my opinion. Onishi, Shida, and Tate are just examples.

[@paladin3116]

ThunderCat123 Studios that's cool but your in the minority

[@Sebzrod78]

@@paladin3116 Great reply.

[@Dan-zt7uj]

Have a wonderful rest! And I love Takahashi's art sooo much that I don't give a fuck about consistency. All the art is great. Even Ryo Onishi! CG could've been better, but at least its better than what we got three years ago.

[@Dan-zt7uj]

Ryo Onishi is my favorite DB Animator alongside Takahashi, Shida and Ide

[@parsaleatherworks]

While the animation is definitely inconsistent at times between Takahashi, Shida, etc. I think it adds character and nostalgia to each scene. It's very similar to the Cell Saga. There were many different scenes in one episode done by multiple animators and although it made it inconsistent, you knew when the animation changed something crazy awesome was about to happen. But that's just my opinion haha.

[@brando3424]

Majin Parsa I agree

[@azarelzaleta7619]

I actually see it that way

[@mugshotmarley]

100%. As a kid in the 90s I realized the same in dbz, but thought it was weird since I never knew that it was different studios or animators back then. I unconsciously had fav styles which fed my interest in dbz. Id buy only certain posters, promo art and movies because of a certain artwork. Little did I know, but all of us had the same interest and dislikes in animation.

[@paladin3116]

Wish takahashi did the entire film lol I love how all his character designs are based of DBZ

[@jasonone8726]

I really don't care at all if the art looks inconsistent, as long as it looks good, we should be happy.

[@DragonBallHype]

Goodnight Ajay

[@Dan-zt7uj]

Agreed

[@Dan-zt7uj]

Lol you thought he was American all this time.

[@azarelzaleta7619]

oh hey you're here lol

[@stephaniesmith2115]

Goodmorning Hype

[@Mike09legacy]

It's scary how good Takahashi is.

[@danielz-v4083]

Michael it’s actually crazy when you realize he is one of the youngest and busiest of the damn staff

[@anlexaify]

@@danielz-v4083 ikr

[@jinuchiha1031]

3 types of art design in this movie: 1. Shintani’s design 2. Takahashi’s design 3. CGI

[@DogratDavis]

I personally enjoy the stylistic shifts between animators in this movie. It's not stark enough to break my immersion but its noticeable enough to slightly change the atmosphere between scenes Very happy with this approach

[@unaisibrahim1393]

remember me in the tsunami of comments.....

[@blarp7948]

In regards to Takahashi, I completely get the worries about his style not fitting, and I agree, but I personally don’t really care if it does or not. I absolutely love the styles of almost every animator on this production and I would sacrifice my immersion just to see all of them demonstrate their best work and unique approaches. One of my favourite parts of the dragon ball manga is that Toriyama’s style shifts depending on the subject matter, and if they can continue to do that in a form as condensed as one film, this new era of dragon ball will certainly turn out to be a great one.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

So you want for super to continue as movies ? that would be cool but i don't know , a movie of this quality is expensive . I would love multi part movies but again too much money would be needed , it will most likely continue with tv format but hopefully with all the money they will earn with this movie ( and i assume this movie will make a ton of money ) that we can get a quality in art , animation , story etc more closer to the movie especially in the art and animation , they could go the seasonal route too , like that it can have a bigger quality and consistency . They do seems to have a bigger production value as they have now a team made specifically only for db etc , so the future might be bright indeed .

[@blarp7948]

Alexandru Timofte well what I really meant was that if we can get a movie filled with all these different styles, that hopefully whatever comes next (be it more movies, the show continuing, or even a new show altogether), they’ll be more open to letting animators take their own approaches. I do think a seasonal show would be pretty cool, as the main thing bogging down Super wasn’t really it’s budget, but it’s constricted schedule. I’m sure the break will have opened that up a bit, but doing it seasonally could help the quality even further.

[@slifer875]

@@blarp7948 i wish dragon ball super was 26 episodes every 2 years instead of over a 100, the manga is over there is no need for more dragon ball, BOG was a nice anniversary thing but ever since ROF i hate how TOEI just milks the franchise regardless if it is hurting it, if it was 26 episodes i don't see how takahashi style would be a problem if he becomes the character designer.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

@@blarp7948 Yea i get you. Either way , now it seems so far they have learned , so maybe trully great things will come in the near future, if they can keep it up just like with this movie , even more so if possible then it will be great .

[@GeteMachine]

This is not an episodic project. If this were, then you could say different styles would be there to show off, but this is a single movie taking place over one event. All the artwork contrasting each other like that does not make it work. Most professional animators for movies would tell you thats the exact opposite of what transition and fluidity should be based on.

[@redshift6251]

I have no problem with Takahashi being completely uncorrected. Every frame that showcases his art & animation is a treat. The 'flow' of the animation doesn't bother me, just like it didn't bother me between cuts/sections when animators & supervisors changed in episodes of DBZ/DBS. I definitely notice this stuff, especially after watching these videos for the last year.. But it just doesn't bother me one bit.

[@Awesometrippylow]

Everyone’s favourite DBtuber blesses us with yet another upload. Keep up the good work you amazing bloke

[@gtafan110010]

The more takahashi the better i say! I love the buu arc designs sooo yeah :D screw consistency. If the movie animation in general is a 8/10 then takahashi going the extra mile with the buu art makes his portions a 10/10

[@isnipeppl8207]

Opinion

[@gtafan110010]

@@isnipeppl8207 You don't say, what a revelation that is. Indeed, people do have opinions.

[@Mike09legacy]

@@isnipeppl8207 Yes, he stated his opinion in a topic in which there is no facts. What exactly is your point?

[@akasakasad6271]

@@isnipeppl8207 your point???

[@paladin3116]

I agree, I don't care about the minority snowflakes that's like the goofy looking super style

[@Alaqeam]

Consistency in style is a legitimate and valid criticism for animation. I hope people understand that this doesn't automatically make Takahashi or anyone on the staff a bad artist. Why this concern is considered 'elitist' is beyond me. But hey, it's easy to toss around a fancy buzzword instead of engaging in productive discussion :^)

[@ldane5872]

Have to admit, because of this video: it's made me kinda question takashi, fit.

[@Alaqeam]

@@ldane5872 For me personally he's a shoe-in. The nagging artist side of me wishes his art followed the model sheets to a T, but his inclusion is good.

[@GeteMachine]

People seem to think they need to justify an artist in reaction to casual criticism like this, just because they like him - rather than seeing it objectively. I honestly don't dislike Takahashi but I don't feel his art style fits with the intended artstyle for the movie. His work is more dated toward the older Yamamuro era to me. My concerns is just wanting to see Shintani's work preserved and emphasize a new look to the series. The talk about the inconsistency being 'nostalgic' for some people or it looking 'awesome' because of its (unnecessary) detail, does not warrant it to me. If people will harp on model inconsistency when its bad, its hypocritical to defend it when its (to them) good.

[@GeteMachine]

@@Alaqeam Agreed. Honestly from my experience watching non-Toei anime inconsistency really isnt as prevalent as it is in other shows which is why it irks me a bit to see how scrambled DB still looks. There really isn't an excuse for this when most of the other actual DB movies were usually much more consistent. Especially the later ones. I don't see where people come from where they just thinks cool for the sake of it or just because it was Takahashi. People need to accept that, someone you like in field are not flaw or faultless to a product's value as a whole if there is an issue.

[@aredblip1315]

Takahashi is great but it's nice to some more love for our boi Ryo Onishi. My *God* the character acting on that SSG transformation! He's going to animate a _lot_ of fight scenes with amazing movements! Just like One Piece Film Z, he'll probably have the highest number of top quality cuts on the booru for this film compared to the other animators.

[@Sebzrod78]

Ajay has an almost supernatural ability to tell these animators apart. Wow.

[@walterclements9019]

The stylistic inconsistencies remind me of opm, which looked fantastic, so it probably won't bother me.

[@BrayanPua]

100% agreement

[@italianchef5145]

I’ve been following you for a while and even met you at Kamehacon (I was in the front row in your presentation). I love how you explained the reason why you critique animation. I watch your videos because you’ve given me such a deeper appreciation for the show being able to understand the animation. Well done 👏🏼

[@thecake6635]

Umm Ajay...this is pretty much what Shintani wanted,for the animators to have creative freedom

[@Stephenguitar93]

I wanna say something in defense of my opinion which is similar to Ajay's but you, sir, terrify me.

[@thecake6635]

@@Stephenguitar93 :D

[@koumusic2600]

Stephen Adams Yeah I’m spooked also 😬

[@RyZak23]

...what IS he... 0_o

[@kevinsteelflex7371]

@@RyZak23 god

[@PhyFK8]

I love takahashi being able to bring his style uncorrected. I don’t have an issue with the consistency because I don’t think any one’s change is jarring or offensive from what I’ve seen, and I love seeing everyone’s different style come out to shine

[@kalpek6913]

i know it isn’t really big but thank you for not spoiling certain shots, i can’t really look at many other youtubers purely because of spoilers.

[@drakes-vevo3600]

Have u seen gogeta blue ?

[@zahed5556]

Takahashi is deviating from the designs? The designs are deviating from Takahashi . That's what it feels like to me

[@adarus9941]

KS ZD I wouldn’t complain if they stuck with Buu Arc style designs from now on, best art style to me in all of DB, however, I think they should keep it with this less shaded art style to really give animators a chance to be loose and free with the animation at the same time, it would be the perfect mix.

[@zahed5556]

@@adarus9941 this movie's animation would be perfect as a TV show. But the reason why this movie feels special is because of the animation. I'm not sure if I would like this as much if it was a TV show

[@adarus9941]

KS ZD Obviously not given they won’t be given much time compared to a movie, but I mean in the sense that this style is looser and has less shading, thus avoiding a possibility of stiff animation and making things much more smoother in movement.

[@jesspeed]

James except that by going full details, you do lose something special that only minimalistic styles will give you. You can give a loose style animator plenty of time and he’s still not going to fill their character art with details. More art details doesn’t make it better art. For me, I prefer minimalistic art over detailed art with tons of shading on it. Let’s use OP for example. I love Tate’s and the minimalistic character design from the pre time skip more than Ichikawa, though I still like Ichikawa’s detailed approach.

[@jesspeed]

James it does work. Ryou Onishi already proved that in the trailers. His work looks amazing in the trailer while respecting Shintani’s design. Multi tone shading never was the only way to make something look gritty and violent. Other shows like Mob Psycho and My Hero Academia are also examples of shows that doesn’t have fully detailed character designs and makes the show look gritty as hell. The level of freedom given to animators because of that style is surreal specially people like Yutaka Nakamura

[@memeSSJG]

#SaveTakaHashi he don't deserve this criticism

[@shzammpatapon9865]

I cannot agree, it would be jarring to see his artwork. I love the base Vegeta and Goku mugshot with minimal shading but still sharp lien but the god form is too much jarring to the eyes

[@koumusic2600]

Nor Azam I understand your opinion. I have a different view but let’s all hope for the best ✌🏼👍🏼

[@jesspeed]

What do you mean it doesn’t deserve criticism. Everything deserves criticism as long as it’s logical and fair. And that my friend is a fair concern. We’ll just have to wait and see how it flows in the movie.

[@memeSSJG]

@@jesspeed people have said that he's "ruined super" when he obviously haven't.

[@memeSSJG]

@@shzammpatapon9865 so because you don't like the way one scene looks then oh well but people act like he's all of a sudden a burden on the production when it's obviously the opposite

[@abdullahfarooq600]

I love takahashis art more

[@BrandonHanners]

I'll take inconsistent good art over consistent bad art

[@JuanRamirez-nz6rs]

Ajay, you madman, you actually upload a video about this. I am amazed by your effort to put out videos building up my hype for the movie! Yay for Ajay! 😁

[@hute6fxnj2t1pjp7]

I think Takahashi knows how people work. Think about it, what DBZ scenes do you remember more? a big narrative scene with Masaki Sato, Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, Shida, Old Yamamuro, Kanno art, etc. or do you like the standard Naoki Tate art/random on model animator from that era?... Artwork leaves stronger memorable feelings if handled perfectly in terms of balance(artwork and movement/animation). So, I think about Takahashi as a guy who is doing/replacing Sato, Yamamuro and all of those guys from the old era that did such famous scenes we all know(SSJ Goku, Trunks killing Frieza, Vegeta and his Final Flash vs Cell, Gohan SSJ2, Kid Buu vs SSJ3 Goku, Raditz vs Picolo and Goku, etc). I feel like he is trying to overcome time with his scenes, channeling what older scenes had.

[@DamianQualshy]

I would like to see entire movie in Takahashi style. But dreams never come true.

[@heinewittgenstein3957]

Have fun at Japan, Ajay.

[@CarthusDojo]

There is a LOT of heavy Takahashi art in this music video. While I think it looks good, I also think the consistency will be an issue to some degree. This issue, however, seems to stem from someone above the movie, perhaps Toei themselves. Today on Twitter Takahashi released a wonderful sketch of Super Saiyan Goku and it brings his work in line seamlessly with the new designs. I really believe there was an external pressure to have Takahashi draw the 90s Yamamuro style in this movie, rather than him choosing to do so.

[@kitarokun6564]

I doubt it

[@superexclusive452]

I highly doubt people are gonna pay attention to this while watching the movie. Matter of fact 99% guarantee it won’t be an issue. I’d be more upset if the models looked way off like it sometimes did in DBS

[@alexisbetancourt8201]

Link me the sketch i wanna save it

[@koumusic2600]

What is Takahashi’s twitter?

[@koumusic2600]

TL Thank you.

[@adarus9941]

The only three animators I can ever identify are Tate, Takahashi, and Shida.

[@yahsworld2940]

As a Dragonball fan, I'm use to the style changes and it doesn't bother me. I remember watching the 1 1/2 to 2 hr fights in the climax of each arc and every episode in it had their own style. It would go from super detailed to super simplistic over the course of 20 minutes. So, it's nothing new to be honest. This movie will just be like a season climax to me in viewing

[@giovanimans4ni]

Does it not Matter! Takahashi has full freedom to do his job, and fits perfectly with Dragon Ball Super Broly movie.

[@0x0x0xWIP]

Hey man, I was pointed to your channel by an old co-worker. AMAZING and well done breakdowns. (I can't say how much I enjoy your professionalism and insight. (It's like a more educated narrator is reading my thoughts.) BUT, I'm unfamiliar with the animators, and I think a lot of others are too. (After all, we old dudes haven't taken DB seriously since way back in Z.) Could you make an image, or chart perhaps, that shows each animators style for each character? I think it would be great for people like me to start with research on the artists, but more importantly, the kids just getting into anime and DB for the first time. (After all, I became an artist in the game industry because of this show.) Thanks for your time and consideration.

[@ImAlexGoodwin]

You'd have to do some *real* digging, but Ajay posted that graph with all the styles from the Supervisors on Super on Twitter. There are a bunch more you can find too that include various points in Dragon Ball Z (saiyan, frieza, cell, etc.). Also you should check out ( www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=dragon_ball_series+ ) It's this database for competent or creative animation, and the Dragon Ball series has a ton of entries to check out. Most of the scenes are credited to the proper animators too, so you won't need to worry about playing detective (yet). Just remember that whenever you want to search something to use "_" in replace of a space or else the search won't come up properly. I hope this helps!

[@PKWinning07]

Takahashi's Buu Saga designs is what DB is supposed to look like in my head so that overtakes consistentcy by a mile for me

[@communityEsc]

I think that people do notice the change from Takahashi to other animators as it’s nostaglic, but they won’t care. I’ve noticed that from reaction videos/comments people are talking about how they wish the entire film looked like old Z like in some of the cuts in the trailer(s) (they don’t know Takahashi by name, of course).

[@JoJoTalksTooMuch]

This really cemented you as one of my favorite creators in the Dragon Ball community, truly. I'm of the mind that the film will be able to balance the art shifts, but I also 100% see where you're coming from here. I'm also really glad to hear you bring up subjectivity, and difference of opinion, it's sadly rare to see creators who are willing to admit their views on things aren't objective truths.

[@WillzMaster85]

Love this channel. Thanks for introducing me to animation more and how much work it takes to give us a good anime show.

[@WillzMaster85]

Wow. Even tho I am more familar with the takahashi work, the shintani (hope im getting his name right, sorry in new to t his channel and thus new to the various animators on this show) does gives the movie and series a fresh face so to speak. Simplicity is key, and the more simplistic and rounded out take on the animations looks better to me than the boxier animation of takahashi. But im personally loving the cgi aspect of the . movie. If done correctly (i hope), it will make the movie much more modern and epic.

[@callion753]

The animation is out of this world

[@MrFatLipx]

There's no doubt in my mind that Takahashi's popularity is what allowed him to get away with this. I'd bet money that Toei actively made sure he was not corrected away for the sake of marketability. And hey, I'm part of the camp that doesn't really mind, so it works for me.

[@mechajay3358]

You made some excellent and valid points Ajay, still I really don't mind the inconsistency. Yeah it's noticable, but it really doesn't take me out if the film, in fact it makes me that more engaged. Each scene from Takahashi's shading to the CG is absolutely gorgeous that it makes it all the more enjoyable to watch, Especially when it's on the big screen. They way I see it, Takahashi's designs are more like a retro look of the Buu Era

[@wrestlingphenom8]

Since I started watching your videos back before we knew Super was ending; my eyes have been opened to a whole new community that’s within my favorite show and genre of shows. Yeah I notice differences more, but I appreciate the show as a whole a lot more. Gaining more knowledge about my favorite show, that’s applicable across many other shows (anime specifically) is amazing and allows me to truly appreciate all of it even more!!

[@superpunkgohan]

During softer character moments a gentler and rounder art style makes sense. But during tense battle moments, Takahashi's artwork can really make us feel the rage and power that's coming from these characters. It makes me think of the grotesque, hyper-realistic closeups inserted into shows like Ren & Stimpy or Spongebob; it's there to make an impact when something more intense needs to be conveyed. I see these dramatic closeups from Takahashi in the same vein. Personally I love the fact that there are multiple styles within scenes. I understand the argument for consistency but I prefer the utilization of a variety of art styles to enhance the experience as needed.

[@25Dzone]

First video of yours I've checked out and I have got to subscribe. Always heard great things about your work from various other Dragon Ball youtubers in particular but the points you made, how you edited this video (SO quickly, might I add) and how interesting you make animation in general - is freaking awesome. Love hearing / learning from someone who's clearly passionate and knows his stuff about a topic that I also enjoy. Time to binge watch your videos! :D

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

Never has starting a video with "Birth of a God" playing in the background felt so satisfying. "Consistency." I don't know. Now that I'm noticing the inconsistencies between shots, I think I could learn to love them. In principle, this type of thing should be breaking my immersion with the film, but all I'm finding is that it pulls me in more because it adds this entirely new dimension to the experience for me. The unique quirks of each animator give it a very personal touch and almost tells a story on it's own. Something handcrafted instead of manufactured. Like the gnarled roots of a tree, spreading outwards organically. Chaotic, but beautiful if for no better reason than for forming a pattern like no other in the world. *I look forward* to seeing how each shot will be different and bring it's own surprises. But that's just me, and at that even I have limits. Consistency is very important, but I don't think it's relative absence will do anything but further this particular movie. And if it doesn't, then we can look forward to the next Dragon Ball Super movie getting the balance right. There are no mistakes.

[@zahed5556]

Takahashi unleashed

[@TehCorebear]

I 100% agree that consistency is an issue and should definitely be criticized but the reality of the situation is that a good 90%, if not more, of the Dragon Ball fan base that is going to watch this movie will either 1. Not notice the inconsistency in the art style or 2. Notice it but not care because overall the movie looks fantastic. its definitely something that can be talked about but it is in no way an issue that is going to weigh down the movie or turn people away.

[@BrayanPua]

3. Notice it. But not care because the Takahashi's style is preferred by the fandom

[@FCBrock101]

TehCorebear Criticizing my a** it looks good so screw it

[@IriaChannel]

I feel you're much more strict regarding this opinion on Yuya Takahashi's work than you ever were on Naoki Tate's, despite throughout your entire time critiquing Super, Tate's work is just as drastic a departure from not only the character sheets, but the entire movement style and aesthetic tone set by other animators which makes up the larger portion of the show. Your enjoyment of Tate's work, has given blinders that come off for Takahashi-- your willingness to afford artistic deviation from source material, is highly dependent on your personal tastes. I disagree with your opinion and I think you should try to be more objective. Conversely, I understand where you come from in forming these opinions on Takahashi's segments: however, I feel there's a certain look that's most reminiscent of the spirit of the show-- whether or not it happens to be your, or my favorite aesthetic-- and Takahashi channels it. I for one, don't feel Takahashi's style is jarring and would actually propose that it's everyone else's artwork that's causing any perceived disturbance. Calling the look outdated is an overstatement, because Dragon Ball's art style is unique to its franchise. It wasn't a product of culture, it created it. Whereas all these concepts you put forward about "modernizing" its look, is simply a euphemism for an homogenization; a washing of the actual unique artistic properties that made Dragon Ball a standout. I am passionately against your opinion here. And I don't say this with any intention to disrespect.

[@Hexstylee3]

Yes i agree with this, its very subjective and given the point that i would say a huge portion of the fanbase love takahashi's work credence that its very much based on personal taste. I for one dislike tate's work, he has great animation but his artwork seems lazy compared to other lesser animators on the film.

[@ruggie.74]

This is the best comment I think I've ever read. I couldn't possibly agree more. Do you have a degree in writing?

[@GeteMachine]

*a washing of the actual unique artistic properties that made Dragon Ball a standout.* Such as what? DB did not have its own style so much as it as it was more so just animated with older techniques, and modernizing it as he said would be trying to take advantage of the advancement of how Shounen anime is presented based on animators whom have done other actions shows, to experiment with. People have said it for years that Super looks dated in comparison to newer shows lie OPM and MHA, so there is no reason to not try and see what would work onto dragonball. Too much butthurt over a clear misconception of someone else's opinion. Everything you're claiming sounds more like its just pulled out of your own nostalgia and emotional attachment to your again - vague perception of the series, rather than fact.

[@MrGoodCompany]

Completely agree with you.

[@MaxIronsThird]

People really prefer the detailed artwork of Takahashi and Shida, i very much enjoy that type of approach to artstyle and they're both great animatior. But THIS HERE 4:47 IS WHAT ANIMATION REALLY IS ABOUT, no restraints poof, transformed.

[@BlackSalamander439]

I don't really mind it that much as long as the characters look like they are supposed to look like and the change isn't jarring e.g. Goku going from his cartoony slice of life look to a battle-ready Takahashi look in one scene. I like when animators have absolute freedom, that way we can see them do their best.

[@1Albertm14]

Yes!!! So glad you made this I watch all your vids started since tournament of power

[@Tomokose]

Great video Ajay amazing stuff as always. You just keep making me want to know more about animation the more you talk about it.

[@joshceojw]

You are one of the best youtubers in the anime community right now , one thing I like about takhasi design tho is it add flavor and power to theses characters when introduce for example when broly jumped in to his yellow eye form, takahashi shading and buu arc style made the form 10x more intense and really emphasize it while I feel as if that was drawn with the shintani style it wouldn’t have as much of an affect. The deviation in art style , makes these moment stand out from the rest of the film which for me in my opinion is a great touch.

[@awesomereviews1561]

Takahashi all day, everyday for me! But I get the other side of the arguments.

[@dalecochrane554]

Thank you for not spoiling @AnimeAjay. first time spoiler free as i'm sure are many

[@aryaanparwez9909]

Thank you Ajay, because of you , I can admire and understand all the hardwork behind an animation. You've taught a lot

[@spartaninthebox9101]

I totally understand the standpoint of wanting more visual consistency, especially since this film is setting the bar much higher, in terms of the quality of the production. While I don't disagree with seeing this as a problem, I do find myself not caring much. This movie is going to be a smorgasbord of talented animators producing some truly astonishing work, and I'm just excited for whatever crazy imagery they throw my way. I love these new designs, but I also love Takahashi's old school approach, and I really want to see both highlighted on the big screen. Having that visual consistency is important, but it's also pretty clear at this point that it's not going to happen to the degree it probably should in this movie. Which is why I'm just going to enjoy it as a visual feast for my eyeballs, and not sweat it too much. If it's like suuuuper jarring, my opinion might change a bit, but as it stands I'll enjoy it for what it is and hope they take this more into consideration in the next movie. Oh, and I really appreciated how you handled this topic. When I saw you were going to do this on Twitter, I was a little worried how this was going to be addressed. But this came out super respectful and completely understandable, excellent work. Side note, I've quite liked what I've seen of Onishi so far, but I have to admit, I didn't really pay attention to him in Super. I think he'll have a much better time of standing out, now that he isn't working with garbage designs.

[@ImAlexGoodwin]

You should definitely check out his work on sakugabooru. He's a stupidly good animator and arguably the best at Toei.

[@spartaninthebox9101]

@@ImAlexGoodwin Noted, I'll check that out, and I'll definitely be keeping my eyes peeled for him going forward.

[@firestarsantos7467]

This video was very well crafted especially the Takahashi portion mostly because I didn't know there was drama about that at all. I for one don't really care has longest I'm starring at something incredibly appeling and animated to perfection.

[@Deuce1042]

I don't care about visual consistency if it looks good.

[@xenophagia]

I think the minor stylistic inconsistencies between animators on Broly makes it more interesting and brings more life and character to the movie. Also the cgi and realistic explosion look epic in this case. This movie is going to be a visual feast. I've been watching the video for "Blizzard" over and over again lol.

[@ayushmishra242]

Takahashi > Shintani Takahashi should be the main supervisor and Shintani should work under him lol :^)

[@koumusic2600]

Ayush Mishra I have a different opinion but I respect yours entirely. Both artists are amazing, let’s all hope for the best!

[@GeteMachine]

Opinion.

[@Zoro-go1mc]

Takahashi is like a prime Yam.

[@KenofLyoko4]

I am glad that Toei is aware of how popular Takahashi is as animator & trusted him with what is a huge part of this film. Shintani’s designs are definitely the cause of this nolstagic approach to Dragon Ball, but Takahashi really brings it home with paying homage to Dragon Ball Z in his style. Personally, I don’t care about his style not being consistent with the other animators; the man could do a film on his own.

[@elizagoseyun1694]

I love this and the art style. In the end it's going to kick ass!

[@noelrodriguez6625]

I'm completely behind your approach to talking about this issue of consistency. And the fact that you initiate productive conversation and respect for other people's opinions. Thanks Ajay 🤙👍

[@SuperPenguinCereal]

Great video, this is the kind of discussion we need.

[@DBK_Productions]

IM SO HAPPY RN THE TRAILER LOOKS SO BADASS 😫😫😫😫

[@MrFatLipx]

That point you brought up about how it is all sequenced in the film is key here. This could easily work if there are large stretches of Takahashi and Onishi separately. The problem will only arise if they trade off every other shot and share the spotlight at the same time. THAT is when I could understand someone being annoyed.

[@solaranimations9062]

After coming home from a long day of school exams, this is really what I needed. Thank you Ajay.

[@henryt.9821]

Shintani's work is wonderful and extremely important for versatility in animation... I totally get that. I feel like Takahashi's work needs to stay on the extreme side, so that other animators can improve their own art style while maintaining the fluidity and flexibility of Shintani's character designs. You know how it goes, you surround yourself with the best, you'll eventually become the best.

[@henryt.9821]

Also to clarify, I think every animator has their own amazing/beautiful style. What I mean is that there's always an extremist in the group that does everything near perfectly. And with time, everyone starts to shift over towards that extreme side.

[@henryt.9821]

I feel everyone's style for the new series will sort of shift to the Takahashi-esque style, with their own personal characteristics of course. Imagine how wonderful that would be. Takashi's line work, Shintani's fluidity, Onishi's amazing animation, Shida's blah blah just about everything. Imagine combining the best of all these animators into the most amazing character design.

[@blackenfist]

I have my reservations with the different art styles in this film but I will have to reserve final judgement until I see the the whole movie. I find the realistic 3D effects alot more jarring and it was something that instantly popped out at me in this new trailer. Ultimately for me if effects or art styles are to jarring of a change it ruins my immersion in the movie which is the real problem with visual inconsistency. Personally for me it is much easier for poorly implemented CG to do this than different art styles.

[@ZaWorldStar]

Blackenfist ahhhhhh man I miss your videos, old time time fan

[@normal_2956]

Glad to see more videos from you Ajay, keep it up. Can’t wait for the full version breakdown of the movie but that’s way later.

[@barnabyj1552]

One other thing that's worth mentioning about animators breaking character Yamamuro's character sheets as opposed to Shintani's is that like you've said in the past there was only so much animators could do with the Super designs because they were so stiff etc so it made more sense for them to break them. I'm a bit conflicted about Takahashi's work on the film because I love what I've seen so far even if some of it is really inconsistent with the rest of it but he probably should've toned it down a little bit because it still looks great with less shading and it would make a huge difference blending in with the rest of the film

[@WhatiFRacing]

CGI scenes are my big concern. other then that im pretty happy with the normal 2D art.

[@dalecochrane554]

Thanks for not spoiling @animeajay. first time spoiler free as i'm sure a lot of others are

[@Sushant2447]

The point is,FUCKING TAKAHASHI LOOK UHHHH SEXY AND I DONT CARE IF ITS CONSISTENCE OF NAT

[@bobsmith8405]

Although off topic, these dokkan battle attack animations have becoming increasingly better over time and the new rose that just came has one of if not the best looking attacks in the entire game so far, I wish we could know who makes these.

[@BGAnime]

Very happy you made this this needs to be seen

[@KamiAnimeS1]

I love the shading from Takahashi

[@MilkmanOfMiami]

I only have one question about the music video: Why were there 8 beams of light when Shenron leaves and the Dragon Balls split up instead of 7 like usual?

[@dragonballsbest4241]

What you said about a lot of people having a small concern being perceived as people making huge complaints applies to everything on Twitter

[@gideonjones8088]

So long as the transitions from Takahashi to the other animators are smooth, I'll be happy to have the differences. I loved his work in the show specifically because he completely ignored the character sheets and gave us what we all remembered from the golden age of Dragon Ball. I do love the new designs, and I think the simplicity of them might make Takahashi's more extreme stuff work even better, so long as they do move along that scale of cartoony to serious and detailed that you mentioned, rather than jump from one to the next without a midpoint. And since I'm so hopeful for this new movie, my assumption has been that with all the effort and focus and talent they've clearly poured into this, that they would have already taken this into account. Guess I'll have to wait and see. What does worry me though is the cgi. I still have nightmares of Resurrection F.

[@danielpowell482]

My favorite thing is the Broly brush strokes, because it actually reminds me of early Dragon Ball and DBZ effects work, like when Piccolo sacrifices himself to save Gohan in the saiyan arc.

[@Gboythunda]

I think the heavy shading brings about a more dramatic expression. Can't wait

[@rbo7]

First thing I did after seeing the trailer, went straight to ajays channel to see the breakdown. But was depressed when it wasn't up. Now I feel better.

[@Dan-mq4nc]

Yeah- yeah, Takahashi's super detailed art leads to an extreme diversion from the overall artistic consistency, making it look jarring an- DID YOU SEE THAT SSJG TRANSFORMATION!? Such an awesome and simple idea that I've thought of before, I wish I had seen that in the cinema.

[@RioSlitherin]

I believe that Takashi can make some deviation for impact/close ups on those layers of shading, giving a more impacting feel to those sections of the films, but deviating too much on the film will defiantly have a poor impact on how the film should look like, with the lack of that layer shading on the new character designs that were officialize should be the majority of how the film should look like.

[@moscosama1238]

The reason the movie looks good at all is because of Takahashi's and other animators drawing away from the design sheets. There is such a big jump in quality when you go from Onishi (like at 9:18) to Takahashi's. Onishi's Goku at that frame is beyond horrible and is not a direction many people like. Even reviewers have said that the jump in artistic quality was jarring. Thing is, it isn't Takahashi's sections that are jarring, it's those going too deep into Shintani's model sheets (that horrendous base Goku with disgusting feature placement...yikes). I get it, what is the use of CD if their designs won't be followed at all. It brings about consistency issues that are CLEARLY visible. The fact though is that many (and i'd argue most) people prefer Yuya's approach. It's more going along Yamamuro's approach which when drawn in the manner Takahashi draws...looks 100x better than most. As for those who really hammer home the role of design sheets and how they should be referenced on an appropriate level, well, many people didn't feel the same way with Yamamuro's sheets. Not just talking about the Super series but the previous movies as well. You can say what you want, but the consistency was there and design sheets were followed to a proper extent (even without Yam's corrections). I mean, that's what his sheets were for right? Unfortunately, when it comes to this fandom, hypocrisy visits on a daily basis and i can guarantee that some (not all) who are really adamant about Takahashi's work causing a mess are the same ones that would praise someone who deviated away heavily from Yam's sheets. Can't have it both ways. Oh and spare me the "difference is the whole movie was drawn to look like it was one animator!" nonsense. You get the point I'm making here...if you're expecting someone to follow the sheets to some extent but praised someone who didn't do the same under the previous designer, then you have no basis of reality. Dragon Ball is not yet ready to go to full blown kiddy, toonish, cute, blobby, and young model sheets yet, that's why people like Takahashi are NEEDED in this film to bring us back to how DB should look like (IMO)...and that's where most of the visual praise of this movie is rightfully coming from (besides the effects work and direction). NOTE: If you really enjoy the more toonish, softer approach, then as Ajay said, more power to you! However, not everyone is on the same field as you are. As for the video itself, you did a great job laying out your thoughts on the situation, well done Ajay.

[@TJBPlays]

Whenever I see Takahashi's animation I get the biggest smile on my face. His vision of dragonball is what I also like to see. I love the other animators and their art style but takahashi just hits it right. His art is dragonball to so the more of it then the merrier for myself but I can completely understand where yourself and others are coming from.

[@Gary-Lazer-Eyes]

I like the intense shading way more I think it makes the picture look way more crisp and detailed

[@ricardirickydorante5894]

Well spoken Ajay, you handled the debate with some real class.

[@koumusic2600]

Cheers! Have a good time at Japan Ajay! Much love!

[@geekgaming1588]

An excellent breakdown as always Ajay. I'm extremely excited to hear your take on the full movie breakdown coming soon! The Takahashi debate is an interesting one as well. I'm torn as his style is the look I grew up with during the height on DBZ fandom in the US. Though I understand wanting the film to feel cohesive and not be quite so jarring during animator transitions. I'll save my final judgement once I've seen the film in theatres in January!

[@Hypeathon]

Did AnimeAjay just spend the latter half of this video attempting to be the Avatar of the Dragon Ball fandom?

[@rooklunary790]

I feel as though Takahashi's style is great for highlighting really intense moments or motions, but should be dialed back a bit overall since it clashes quite a bit with the other segments. The sharpness of it makes me think of an exclamation point among a bunch of periods and commas compared to the overall softer art style of the film, great for those high tension moments. When you have it in your face for more then that it's uncomfortable because of the visual dissonance. This most likely won't be a problem for the younger and those apathetic to this kind of conversation, but those of us who analyze animation or are artists themselves this can make the movie a rough watch if they don't take care with the structure like you mentioned. Anyways, this was another great video. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work! :D

[@batguy39]

I really like the way Goku went from SSJ to SSG I mean, look at that swing tho😍 And SSG Vegeta looking clean af💙💙💙

[@sprydude24]

Thank you Ajay, very cool!

[@TITANCREED]

Coming at this as someone who works in film development (but with no background in animation), this all seems like an issue of tone rather than structure. If they're able to have the SSG Goku fight flip from playful to serious, they can manage the style changes. Conversely, if they fumble the tonal evolution of the narrative at any point, then even the stylistic transitions with entire set-piece changes could fall flat. Tonal shifts are often impossible to glean from trailers, though. The tone of the overall movie can be showcased in a trailer, but not its transitional beats. As such, I don't see much reason for anyone to form a solid opinion on any of this. This video is a good discussion of the issue, though.