A quick overview of my general thoughts and opinion on the new Dragon Ball series.
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@andrethomas25398 жыл бұрын
The pacing of Super reminds me of the pacing of your channel uploads.
@Ramble12348 жыл бұрын
Damn LOL
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
I know! Both are just terrible!
@FryIronicMemeFace8 жыл бұрын
sheit
@Keurgui18 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ghostlyripper44038 жыл бұрын
Bruh 😂
@SonofAGunFrom4108 жыл бұрын
Not sure why people are upset about this, the show sucks, sorry.
@Ramble12348 жыл бұрын
It does
@jasonroman-deleon81528 жыл бұрын
I like it, that's my opinion
@kijanajenkins25468 жыл бұрын
So many recolors
@ZigTheHunter8 жыл бұрын
Difference of opinion, pretty simple really.
@ProjectLDV8 жыл бұрын
Make a long review dude, Super sucks. It's incoherent, inconsistent to the original series and itself and has the pungent Toei stink all over it. Too much Goku, useless side characters, bad pacing and a total disregard for how things work.
@bubblemaximus65008 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you being honest. Your channel has a lot of dbz content, but you chose to respect your integrity and give your honest thoughts, even to the ire of many of your viewers. Lots of respect man
@Domi_Yomi8 жыл бұрын
So he lost to Beerus, Lost to Frieza, then got a Rewind and took Vegeta's kill. Then he lost to Frost, and Hit. So what's the issue about him always winning here?
@metallur02618 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it yeah.
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
Look at how the plot went. Goku was needed to stop Beerus. Goku stopped Frieza. Goku won the tournament. Every problem was resolved by Goku. You can get technical and say that he lost, but he was still the hero in each case.
@BenfirestormNetwork8 жыл бұрын
Um.. Goku didn't win the tournament, Monaka did.
@Domi_Yomi8 жыл бұрын
Omega2040 The main character is the hero of the show? That's crazy man. Just like he was against, King Piccolo, Piccolo Jr, The Red Ribbon, Buu, Frieza, The Saiyans, and everything in GT. Also, he didn't stop Frieza, Frieza blew the planet up. Goku failed, he also got wrecked by a laser. After taking a senzu bean, Whis gave him another chance. He didn't win the Tournament. He lost 2 times, and it was implied... well stated, that hit was holding back all of his lethal techniques. Vegeta was the star of that tournament.
@Domi_Yomi8 жыл бұрын
Omega2040 It's like you people hate the fact that Goku's involved at all. That's just ridiculous.
@sketchstevens58598 жыл бұрын
Summed up all my issues with super as a whole. I don't take Super as canon.
@GreenDbz6 жыл бұрын
Winged Clover Yay! Someone other than me finally said it!
@Shadic60988 жыл бұрын
I forgot I was even subscribed to you fam.
@johnsoss35058 жыл бұрын
same
@chriscannon81448 жыл бұрын
Good to have ya back man, it's been AGES! Hearing your voice again sounds so nostalgic too.
@xXSonTJXx8 жыл бұрын
I highly disagree with you
@Ramble12348 жыл бұрын
It's true lol Super is pretty shit
@xXSonTJXx8 жыл бұрын
Ramble Thats your opinion
@omegabossking8 жыл бұрын
Yep all opinions in the end. people always fight over who is right and why this rocks or sucks. Personally i love super but i respects omega's opinions, i do hope he comes to enjoy it :)
@Ramble12348 жыл бұрын
+xXSonTjXx yea true. But I just think some things in Super aren't explained enough. Not to mentioned the poor animation and the inconsistencies and plot holes that Super has made. Hopefully the Future Trunks arc will redeem the series
@xXSonTJXx8 жыл бұрын
Ramble You know dragon ball and dbz have all those same things right
@NeroDeAngelo8 жыл бұрын
you know, I nearly cried tears of joy... because I thought I was alone with my thoughts about Super and it being worse than GT (I honestly actually liked GT). I pretty much have the same problems as you, tough I do like the Kaioken during SSJB still more than going regular god form without any explanation, besides the fact he shouldn't be able to do it without a ritual.
@kijanajenkins25468 жыл бұрын
Agreed I like GT more it's original
@Papan018 жыл бұрын
The show feels like it's something the team is working on as a side project with something else that is more important to them.
@russelltietjen44078 жыл бұрын
It really should have just started with the Universe 6 arc. While it wasn't great tbh, those first 2 arcs were just tedious to sit through and the movies were much better (they didn't even explain some of the big questions we had from the movies, namely how the heck Super Saiyan Blue works). I am really enjoying the Black saga so far though, it actually feels like it's taking itself seriously now instead of just kinda escalating everything. "LOOK! Goku's a God now!" "LOOK! Vegeta's a God now!" "LOOK! Frieza's a God now!" "LOOK! There are a dozen universes with tonnes of Gods and people are are strong as Gods now!" LOOK! There's this guy who's above all of the Gods and he wants all the other Gods to beat the crap out of each other!" So far, the Black Goku saga is going for a mystery angel and I'm enjoying that more than "Now Goku/Vegeta have to fight this dude". Honestly, I prefer GT more (never really hated it, just thought it was ok), but Super can still prove itself. Right now though, it's quite lacking
@dondolo6318 жыл бұрын
OMG I watch your DBZ BT3 videos almost everyday. I agree with some of your points in Super so good job but please upload more bt3! or anything
@sidew8ys8 жыл бұрын
Damn, I agree with everything you said to be honest. And the art and animation quality of the series definitely don't help either. This Future Trunks arc has been the most interesting so far but everything else is pretty lackluster.
@julio10mc728 жыл бұрын
You returned! I missed your videos :)
@dragonuv52898 жыл бұрын
HEY YOUR BACK! The only problem I have with the DB franchise is that they rehash characters SO MUCH. Like... Black Goku? Really? No hate... but at least GT tried to make a good roster of new characters to the universe. Nonetheless, I will still give the series a go after i'm done with the shows i'm bingeing now. Greta analysis btw. :D
@ringocchi8 жыл бұрын
while I'm not sure about your other points like the Kaio-ken thing, I couldn't agree more about Goku doing everything since Buu saga up to now - it annoys me as well and I'm tired that not even Vegeta gets the chance to do something anymore also I've been a lurker of your channel watching the reviews you do about movesets and all and it's a surprise to see a new video by you lol
@universalshadow8 жыл бұрын
Good to see you still uploading Omega, I've been having a nostalgic DB binge because of Super and have been rewatching a lot of your older DBZ videos lol. And I kinda agree with you on Super, it's been a letdown tbh. The animation more often than not has been poor, wasting 27 eps on movie retellings was dumb (although the Goku vs Beerus fight in Super was better) and it's the Goku and Vegeta show all over again just like GT. But I have found the Goku Black saga interesting thus far, Black has been a really entertaining villain so far and the animation has improved (just look at all the fights Black's been in so far) so right now I'm cautiously optimistic.
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
I just have one question for this arc. Why is Trunks' hair blue!? Worst retcon of all time!
@universalshadow8 жыл бұрын
Omega2040 Yeah it's REALLY jarring lol. Especially when you see younger Trunks with his purple hair standing right next to him! At 1st I tried to headcanon it thinking "some people's hair colour change as grow older, maybe the same happened to Trunks". But nope full retcon, future Trunks has now had blue hair since forever. Maybe blue haired Trunks is the drawing/direction Toriyama gave Toei and they didn't dare question him lol. He's given Trunks blue hair before but he also did think #18's hair was purple during the production of BoG smh.
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
I just figured he got into his mom's hair dye.
@JakeDeeJake8 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. Think it's a disgrace.
@SomeoneElse-8 жыл бұрын
It takes so long for anything to happen? Things happen way too fast.
@ZalmanZStar8 жыл бұрын
The pacing since the end of the movie retellings has been great. I think it was a huge mistake wasting 27 episodes of those. I've really enjoyed this series since episode 28.
@tightlypackedcoil8 жыл бұрын
I agree that Super is definitely lacking something, a certain charm that DBZ had. I don't like that Super has continued the trend of pushing everyone aside in the same way that GT did, but Z appeared to be heading in that direction anyway. The fights in super thus far lack the choreography, sophistication, and epicness of those seen in DBZ, that's for sure. Overall I agree that Super is lack luster, although I prefer it ever so slightly to GT, and there's a part of me that is happy to see these characters being drawn anew.
@CaptainMarvel4Ever8 жыл бұрын
COMPLETELY 100% agree I thought after all this time they would work out kinks from DBZ and make an even better series than before.... but it's worse, it's much much worse. It has all of DBZ's flaws multiplied, and none of the charm of the original series. Glad to see such a short sweet, and rational video.... sad to see the fanbase still acting this way towards any negativity
@REEMIKS6 жыл бұрын
this new series is a great disappointment
@186FreakinCool8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Super is trash in my opinion. I feel like people only like it due to the fact that they've been dying for a new series after the atrocious GT. And now that we have one, fans are just kinda compromising with whatever they can get. Hopefully they can step it up in the future. As a huge DB fan, I am highly disappointed.
@OverlyCriticalAnime8 жыл бұрын
Man I can't agree with that. I have been disappointed by the pacing of the series so far and I do believe the other Z warriors need more of the spot light, but I don't think its worse then Gt not yet anyways.
@qwertyMrJINX8 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching the anime a long time ago. It's garbage.It's clear, to me at least, that Toei do not care about Dragon Ball anymore. It's just a money maker to them. They put their B-team writers on it, with their C-team animators, and produce a turd loosely based on some shit Toriyama wrote for them. Been loving the manga, though.
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
I agree. The manga has been much more enjoyable. The pacing is better, though since its monthly it has been moving a bit too fast to try and stay near the anime I guess. The way the Hit fight went in the manga was so much better. The logic behind the fight made much more sense. It is weird how the two fights were nothing alike though.
@TheGeoXWar8 жыл бұрын
You do know Toriyama is one of those b-team writers right?
@EpidemicPain8 жыл бұрын
Imo its worse than gt(and I hate gt) but people are being hypocrites,they condemn gt for bad designs,bad pacing,and many plot holes and pointless arks, while super on the other hand as pallet swap transformations.horrible pacing,(how did gohan get weaker than frieza grunts in 3 years when he reached hes MAXIMUM power 3 years prior)and even had goku looking for work for god sake,and lets not talk about the animation
@HeWhoEnjoysTehVids8 жыл бұрын
is it weird that DBO and Xenoverse have better stories?
@daltonhennen8 жыл бұрын
+Ultimate Spoopynator lol okay, shut the fuck up yet again, xenoverse storyline is worth less than my shit and so is your logic, lol i remember when i had my first beer
@-toxicus-85826 жыл бұрын
"super manga is better"little did he know that in the future there would be something called UI and roshi got it...together with the fact gohan had a chance against kefla a fusion at ss2 with a berserk touch in it
@tehflamingninja19975 жыл бұрын
Did you even read the manga?
@-toxicus-85825 жыл бұрын
@@tehflamingninja1997 yes good sir and i can say that its even more asspulling than the show
@tehflamingninja19975 жыл бұрын
@@-toxicus-8582 Roshi never went ui
@-toxicus-85825 жыл бұрын
@@tehflamingninja1997 people say that as a "joke" he didnt go literally ui...but the way he dodged those jiren punches is bs and a complete asspull it almost looks like ultra instinct
@tehflamingninja19975 жыл бұрын
@@-toxicus-8582 Yeah i do find that as stupid, I just thought you were one of those idiots that claim Roshi has obtained UI just because they saw a picture from Instagram or something like that lol.
@SUPERLINKX28 жыл бұрын
WOOO!! PLANET SIZED DRAGON BALLS AND BLUE HAIR!
@Killua-ce3kt8 жыл бұрын
To me Super didn't get good until the Tournement saga. It's not as good as Z but it's not that bad. I just hate how they ruined Vegeta's character by making him dance for Berus.... I totally understand you Omega.... but you can't deny that some episodes in Super were actually good
@TheSoulExplorer8 жыл бұрын
I would agree with you on the Beerus and Freeza arc (although the Beerus saga was ok), but the Future Trunks arc so far has been what I wanted GT to be back in the day. Actually, it's far better than what I thought Toei was capable of doing. Yeah. in some cases it might scream fan fiction all over the place, but that's why I love it so much: it's for the fans. The pacing is really dreadful alright. There's no excuse for those "fillers" every now and then if the anime is not based on an outside source. But you know, they gotta extend it as much as they can so everybody can make the money. I wish you went into more details in your thoughts, rather than just "I don't like it". Maybe in the future?
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
I suppose I could make a list of all the plot problems that I have, but seems a bit overkill. Though I can list some since you are interested. Trunks has blue hair even though Kid Trunks has purple hair. The timeline being presented in Super is very hard to follow, I mean how long is it between events? What is up with Gohan in general? Why was Hit's power up in the anime so nonsensical? What was the point of doing the two movie arcs in the first place? Basically stuff like that. It all seems to come back to poor writing though.
@michaelalvarez98348 жыл бұрын
List of things I hate about super God of destruction just want food Frieza comes back for the 9000th time Everybody from universe 6 is weak excluding hit Black goku is evil goku Future trunks returns for fan service Super saiyan God is irrelevant after the first arc The manga and anime are completely different There is over 9000 plot holes The timeline is fucked up The fight scenes suck The arcs are too short Jaco the patrolman makes no sense Trunks and goten are still kids Mai exits in the future timeline as young as trunks
@daltonhennen8 жыл бұрын
+Omega2040 you should prolly make a list but trunks hair, and gohan being bitch made arent really plot holes... Its jus a change
@mekannatarry19298 жыл бұрын
As a fan I enjoy it; as an observer it's ehh. While there are some things I like, and others that get a big smile on my face, it's not perfect. It has ups and downs and generally I too hope it gets better as for right now it's literally just started to mildly pique my intrest.
@CardCaptorTsukasa8 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I think it's been a very fun series. The only complaints I really have are the movie recaps and the janky animation so far. The Future Trunks arc so far could end up being one of my favorite DB arcs. Look at Goku's record in Super too. He couldn't beat Beerus. He only beat Frieza because of the redo and he lost to Hit. The only villain he's been able to stand up to so far is Black and by the looks of it that won't be the same next time. Keep in mind we're only on the second proper story arc of Super and there's still plenty of times for things to change. I honestly don't know how you can say it's worse then GT. GT's pacing was even worse with stretches of literally nothing happening, the main trio were 10x more annoying then anyone out of Super, Goku saved the day every goddamn time (After jobbing a lot first mind you, SSJ4 is the kind of losing every battle until Goku gets charged up with everyones ki.) and it has that really weird art style that makes it look like a bootleg DBZ. The only thing GT has over Super in my opinion is the OST. It might just be be, but I'm having more fun watching Piccolo being an Uncle and Krillin's shenanigans then I ever enjoyed them in Z. I've always loved them but seeing what they are like now is way more satisfying to me then watching them job like they always did in Z. I just wish others like Tenshinhan got the chance to do some wacky stuff occasionally. I do think the movie recaps were terrible outside of the Ginyu stuff, but since then I think Super has been a pretty decent series. I know you don't view it as cannon, but seeing as Toriyama's ideas are behind it, you might end up being disappointed in the long run. Mind you I also think the manga is better. I'm also used to watching Toei's 50+ episode shit so maybe I'm just used to the pacing. But I do think its a better series then you're giving it credit for. It's the most fun I've had in DB since... probably DB.
@AnimatedIdiotGuide8 жыл бұрын
Honestly things have kind of fallen apart since Z ended anyway. I enjoyed GT but mostly for a nostalgic trip (and I don't care what anyone says, the introduction of Super Saiyan 4 is worth the price alone XD) and from what I've seen of Super, I'm not really that invested. :\ Also I finally just watched the new Frieza movie, and that was a dick move by the creative team to take away Vegeta's kill. Seriously, what the hell is with the franchise and them not wanting anyone other than Goku to be the hero?
@AnimatedIdiotGuide8 жыл бұрын
Also the concept of "Super Saiyan God"...completely confuses me. Why the fuck don't they just retcon GT and have Super Saiyan 4 be established in Super??
@shinyphanpy78738 жыл бұрын
I would have to disagree on the Goku always saving the day point, the only fight he has won without help so far is against Botamo. Sure he killed Frieza, but that was only after Vegeta beat him to a pulp. Even in the tournament he lost to thoroughly lost to Hit. However I agree that others characters such as Gohan, Goten and Piccolo should have more of an effect on the story.
@Mattix5268 жыл бұрын
You're back! I couldn't care less about Dragon Ball Super, but I do want more uploads. More videos please?
@d14flare8 жыл бұрын
i agree with a lot you said except for pacing part i didnt like kai or its pacing at all i like long drawn out fights and super is disappointing there but yes agree i hate how its a goku and vegeta only show, lets make piccolo a god and get some shine he was strongest character at one point and feared now hes nothing lets make gohan somewhat better lets have krillin, 18, tien get some moments. also biggest problem i feel than anything is animation.
@KL425968 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear why you feel this way in depth. What specific things bother you? For me the biggest issue is the tone, it just feels like it's being made for a younger demographic and its disappointing.
@RisingJericho8 жыл бұрын
Omega needs a community thing so his subs can talk to each other about things other than how infrequent uploads are.
@zorua10148 жыл бұрын
You're still alive?
@KazuyukiTaka8 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're still alive. Can we expect an in-depth Xenoverse 2 review?
@IconicBoar0978 жыл бұрын
FUCKING FINALLY to this day i wonder why people like super you took the words right outta my mouth with basically everything you said i especially agree with you on the fact that super is worse then GT it just feels so lazy and fan fictionesque in reality i feel they should have rebooted GT because it had good ideas and intentions it was just the execution could have been better and i don't mean like GT kai i mean full on new animation and stuff of the like
@kijanajenkins25468 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@IconicBoar0978 жыл бұрын
ki'jana Jenkins thank you :)
@gamelordabd8 жыл бұрын
The current arc is pretty much the most interesting thing to happen in Super... and of course they dumb it down with slow, dull pacing, and annoying retcons such as Future Trunks having Blue Hair now for no reason. Gohan's pretty much confirmed to be a useless family man from here on out too, which contradicts him wanting to train more after dealing with Golden Frieza. Not even Toriyama likes the DBS anime. Toei just messed everything up by rushing the series out without any proper planning, and as a result the episode quality suffers because the staff is also busy working on several other Toei shows at the same time. It's all a hot steaming mess. I just consider the new movies and the DBS manga the 'true' Dragon Ball Super. They were just handled so much better and they don't drag things out.
@Altar3608 жыл бұрын
I have disagree on a lot of fronts. Firstly, Goku was always the hero, the sole exception being the Cell saga. I really don't see many characters being dummed down, they behave how one would expect. The only problems with the show are the animation and the pacing (perfectly valid if those are enough to turn you off from the show). Most of the stuff people have problems with are either problems that have always plagued the franchise or are explained or are going to be explained later on. I do agree that in general the manga is better though. So if you have to chose one or the other, stick with the manga. Overall its A LOT better than GT
@Altar3608 жыл бұрын
+Ultimate Spoopynator That still doesn't change the fact that its Goku who's the main hero and is instrumental in the defeat of every big bad. Just like how everyone gave Goku the energy to become a god, Vegeta beat the crap out of Frieza before Goku had to kill him after the rewind. Piccolo and Vegeta fought off the Universe 6 team, etc. Most things have been explained or in the case of Black, will be soon. How the Universes work, how Ssj Blue works, etc.
@Edski108 жыл бұрын
holy shit you're alive
@don830308 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh look who's back
@irishONgaming8 жыл бұрын
As a fan of your channel. And who thinks DBS is okay. Not bad imo.But I agree on a lot of points.. Super has a lot of problems. But I shall keep watching because I have hope. I think its kinda improving. Heres hoping the Trunks Saga is a redeemer.
@JabariMacgrath8 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE ALIVE!
@HeyBOssguy8 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball super does have a manga. It seems pretty good from what I seen I am just disappointed the first to arcs are stuff we already seen
@klikssiikubra3148 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the manga comes after the anime in this case, the roles have switched.
@HeyBOssguy8 жыл бұрын
Klik'ssi Ikub'ra It wasn't like that in the beginning. The anime cought up with the manga during the universe fighting tournament Arc
@k5elevencinc08 жыл бұрын
You're alive!
@DBandCartoonFan2004Ай бұрын
I don't blame you.
@bigrav20018 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD HE'S ALIVE!!!!
@chefinabottle8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit bro what's up?!?! You've been gone for so long!!!
@gokugtsupersaiyan8 жыл бұрын
he's alive!
@omegabossking8 жыл бұрын
HOLY FK HE IS FUCKING BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK OMEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA and damn. I think it feels slow because the first two arcs were movie remakes. Also it's best not to compare it Z. Cause to me all of the series (original,z,GT and super) do feel different from one another. I do agree other characters should have their moments like piccolo he needs a big power boost haha. Goku hasn't really won in super that much either since he lost to beerus and then to hit. Personally for me it's been fun. TBH with Goku getting the most screen time. it's always been this way. Even Gohan's victory against cell Goku played a huge part to plat even from the afterlife lol.
@ZigTheHunter8 жыл бұрын
I like Super, its not bad, but it does have a lot of room for improvement. I do feel some of your problems with it are nitpicky. I felt SSB Kaioken was explained decently enough. Its still weird to hear people say GT is better.
@ffsAD8 жыл бұрын
So many years later and you still can't get a better quality mic
@ZanzibarWizard8 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@DBandCartoonFan2004Ай бұрын
No offense, but this comment didn't age too well.
@supervegito22778 жыл бұрын
As for pacing, i dont find it that bad. Its a series not a movie, and Naruto is doing FAR FAR worse on that front... FAR Worse. IM having fun watching it and there where atleast 1 scene (SSGSS Kaioken) that had me hyped so looking for that stuff.
@klikssiikubra3148 жыл бұрын
I agreed with your thoughts on Xenoverse, and I agree here as well.
@chickenpermissiontheshaved758 жыл бұрын
You are back!
@ItsOver9000Productions8 жыл бұрын
Yeah 1 fucking year without an upload.
@johnsoss35058 жыл бұрын
WHERE HAVE U BEEN?
@DigitalWraith8 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT! YOU'RE STILL ALIVE?
@fastmovingvolcanomatter8 жыл бұрын
He lives.
@WillOfMyD8 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Super sucks ass! I mean yeah, Goku Black & Future Trunks is good, but it took 40+ episodes to get to that point. That's not good. Even though I'm liking what's happening so far, I'm still biting my tongue about this shit show.
@tupacshakur24228 жыл бұрын
The pacing is slow you're kidding right the universal tournament was like only 6 episodes long. The future Trunks arc pacing has been fine they're actually taking their time and not rushing things through. The BOG arc took forever but I still thought it was better than the movie. The weakest link is the ROF arc.
@MrAxedead8 жыл бұрын
Goku Time in disguise
@DrTranReincarnated8 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back dude
@CyanPrince8 жыл бұрын
man i was not expexting that, i dont feel the pacing is really that bad of an issue, and yes i do agree that Goku is getting way too much spotlight, at least we have enjoyable character moments from the others even if they're not really winning any fights
@SoundwaveSC8 жыл бұрын
Agreed completely. Super is fucking garbage. It was literally made to be a nostalgia trip to make money, and has no thought in its writing.
@daltonhennen8 жыл бұрын
+Ultimate Spoopynator shut the fuck up yet again, those powerscalings you stated arent even real, and if you dont like super take your ugly ass on somewhere
@xDantey7 жыл бұрын
You're making no sense Ultimate Spoopynator lmao. Raging SSJ2 Vegeta was a simple power boost that barely even made Beerus flinch and it's scale was simply close to SSJ3 but no more. The scaling goes by: SSGSS Kaioken x10 Goku > Hit/SSGSS Goku/SSGSS Vegeta > Base Goku/Base Vegeta. Vegeta was beaten because he wasn't aware of the time-leap and his vital points were hit before he could make a plan, otherwise SSGSS Vegeta's speed is far above Hit.
@xDantey7 жыл бұрын
Vegeta had to deal with heavier hits than Goku. Hit did not hold back against Vegeta as much as he did against Base Goku. And Base Goku took far less hits than Vegeta did. The thing is you believe that 10% of Beerus = 10% of Goku which is wrong. For all you know, he went 10% on his own will and by the way, he mentioned Vegeta being highly skilled but he lacks the power to match him. 10% of Beerus is >>>>>>> Raging Vegeta. Also let's assume Beerus's power level is leagues above Goku Let's say Beerus has 8 megatrillion plvl. Goku has 500 trillions plvl in SSB. What makes you think that adding 10% of Beerus wouldn't be adding 800 trillion to his plvl count? For all you know Beerus's 100% would smash Goku in. Kaioken would merely make Goku reach the megatrillion league. X10= 5 mega trillion. Does that match Beerus in any way? None of these powerlevels are officials, they are examples. You can't compare Beerus's percentage to fucking Goku's. 100% of Goku is legitimately 60% of Beerus. That means 10% would be 6% of Beerus. He's leagues above him. You're also confusing Raw power with Beerus's abilities. Beerus is a God of Destruction, he's far more powerful and is able to erase beings above him. His technique is fearsome on top of being massively powerful.
@xDantey7 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Spoopynator What multiplication are you even implying? What the fuck are you even smoking? A blunt? There's no official numbers. You're going haywire based on the fact that Beerus mentioned Vegeta forcing him to use 10 % of his power. What makes you think that 10 % was necessary? Beerus wanted to end things fast and not waste time with his toys. Again, CAN YOU DO basic math? Kaioken X10 isn't a multiplier based on the percentage of the power Goku has, it's a multiplier based on the POWER-LEVEL he has. Meaning that it's not 60 % x 10, it's Power-level X10 which increases the percentage rate. You're making nonsense whatsoever and you're confusing the use of Kaioken. Can you multiply properly? A PERCENTAGE has NEVER Been multiplied in ANY WAY, the NUMBER associated to the PERCENTAGE is the one multiplied, and THEN after the end-results, THE PERCENTAGE changes according to the results. Lmao dude, you're multiplying percentages which is never done in Maths. You completely went beside the point.
@xDantey7 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Spoopynator Here we go again. Who implied that Kaioken X10 is applied directly on the percentage of power? No one. Otherwise the very author himself would have said so, thus numbers and powerlevels wouldn't matter because everything would be calculated in percentage. That's not how Kaioken works. IT doesn't bring forth 600 % of Goku's power-level. IT brings form 10X Goku's power-level, which is then progressively calculated into percentages. The same goes for Akira's rating based on BoG. People like you often confused rating/percentage and multiply them for no reasons. Goku is a 6, Beerus is a 10 and Whis is a 14. Goku SSB Kaioken X10 isn't going to make him a 16. It's a rating, not a power-scaling. The rating is based on the percentage of power used. Goku used his full power while Beerus used 60 % of his. Beerus's 60 % was able to destroy Goku's 100 %. Let's say SSB adds 10 % to it. Goku's 100 % becomes Beerus's 70 %. (Btw if we follow manga logic, SSB is a X50 multiplier, yet Beerus deemed it as weaker than Golden Frieza.) Golden Frieza was stronger than Goku SSB and yet feared Beerus so much. Why the "surprised/fearsome" look? And I called you a virgin at maths because you're multiplying percentages.. Let's face it. When you calculate the percentage of a promotion, a price decrease from its base price, you don't do 100 %= 60$ therefor 100%-30% = 30$. No. You simply do not meddle percentages with multipliers, subtractions or additions. The Kaioken X10's multiplier isn't applied on the percentage. It's applied on the Power Goku has. Kaioken x10 SSB Goku = ?% of Beerus's power. It's unknown because we have no way of calculating it, we have to check out the character's remarks. And Beerus was surprised and annoyed at the same time because he wanted to stomp Goku at his best, he wasn't fearing it. What makes you believe KaiokenX10 was enough? It's not 600 % of Goku's power, otherwise Goku would destroy Zeno and anyone along. 600 % puts him way above anyone in the darn series. 600% of Goku's SSB power implies that Goku has SSB over 6 times. Meaning that he's over SSJ6 (And that's fanfiction garbage). IT JUST doesn't make sense in any way. You're overwanking Kaioken and using it the wrongest way possible. Kaioken x10 SSB isn't 60 % x 10, it's Power-level x10 = ?% of Beerus's powerlevel. That's why I came up with a simple example: Goku could be at 1 megatrillion for all we know. Beerus could be a 20 megatrillions in his 100 % form. That would put Goku far closer to Beerus and Beerus would have a more "fun" fight in his regard. Either way, I apologies for my "rudeness" but I just can't understand how you bring yourself to apply Kaioken X10 to a percentage. IT's just completely nonsensical. Goku would blow up from using 600 % of his power. If Goku is at 100 000 000 trillion in power-level using his SSB form. 600 % would put him at a level beyond combining SSJ3 and Super Saiyan God. 600 % just doesn't make sense in any case. The fact that Hit was able to keep up with him afterwards just revolves around what I just said. Goku x10 is a 10 % increase in power. It's a 10x increase in Power-level. 10 % increase in percentage. And the whole show revolves around Goku and Vegeta surpassing Beerus to begin with, seriously, why would he randomly get a power-boost that would go beyond him? The worst part is there's no maths implied. I'm sorry for even talking "maths" in any case. We have no numbers, we have literally jack shit to base ourselves on. Beerus could be suppressing his power on a bigger scale than anyone has ever done. The same for Whis. We just have no elements to base our "plot-hole" on. Kaioken x10 SSB Goku isn't surpassing Beerus any time soon judging by the characters' remark. That's all you need to know, and no plot-hole is implied AS long as we weren't given a PRECISE explanation on the power-gap between Goku and BEerus. Giving us a rating doesn't help. Because we don't know how much power SSB has added over SSG, nor how much Kaioken added despite the x10 multiplier because we have no base to work on.
@BioAssasinX8 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion and get why you don't like it. However, I disagree. I do not mind the pacing because I'm use to DBZ being long and I watched and bought kai seasons. I don't need a reason for it to be slow. atleast it isn't like One Piece. Still a good video even tho I disagree. Hope you upload more!
@BioAssasinX8 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I highly agree with you on goku always having to be the hero. I hope vegeta gets a bigger role like he kills black or something.
@nalightb8 жыл бұрын
I almost always like your videos. Why don't you upload more? Good to see you back again
@TheGamersState8 жыл бұрын
Any chance on a video giving your current thoughts on Dragonball Xenoverse 2?
@AZUREREV5 жыл бұрын
Super's pretty bad from what I've been shown. But, I'm thinking of watching starting from when Goku Black makes his appearance. I'm also thinking of watching GT to see just how "bad" it is.
@HolyknightVader9995 жыл бұрын
Episode 47.
@MChedderbeef8 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you're alive?
@nickfamous8 жыл бұрын
You gave pretty well no explanation behind any of your points. You don't decide what's canon or not btw. How is Goku always the hero in Super? He beat Frieza that's about it lmao. I do agree they have dumbed Goku down a bit and that some of the characters are being pushed aside tho.
@nickfamous8 жыл бұрын
+Ultimate Spoopynator That's not 4 that's three because regardless to why Hit quit he still was defeated by Monaka by the tournament rules not Goku lol. In Z that only happened once? Really? Yakon, Cooler, Frieza are three instances so there. Guess Super and Z are tied for that.
@vegeta3536587 жыл бұрын
Cooler isn't canon lmao
@nickfamous7 жыл бұрын
+Ultimate Spoopynator Hit wasn't a main villain either yet you include him but I can't include Yakon? Lmfao. Monaka was the one who defeated Hit, I know Goku was the reason Hit let Monaka win but still if Monaka wasn't on the team and Goku lost then Hit would've been the overall winner but he wasn't since Monaka beat him. That doesn't count as a Goku win. He has Copy Vegeta, Golden Frieza (with help) and Beerus he didn't really defeat but I see your point there he did end up defending the planet with that fight. Goku in Z defeated many more enemies than that. Nappa, Burter, Frieza, Yakon, Kid Buu for a few examples. I don't see why it matters tho because goku is the main protagonist of both Z and Super so it makes sense that the protagonist often takes down the antagonists
@nickfamous7 жыл бұрын
+RamYouUptheButt lmao I never said he was.
@vegeta3536587 жыл бұрын
nickfamous Well you did mention him.
@vampiricgamer68378 жыл бұрын
you're alive??
@HolyknightVader9995 жыл бұрын
Super is a mixed bag. Its best hour was the Black Saga-truly a masterpiece. Everything else, well, there's equal shares good and bad. The pacing isn't as dragged out as Z, but it can get random at times. And there's certainly a good share of WTF moments, like how Goku was actually INJURED by a bullet in EP77. At that point, if a Halo ODST or a Fallout NCR Veteran Ranger showed up with a high-caliber anti-tank sniper rifle, they'd have a good chance of killing Goku. Kind of a far cry from the retardedly OP guy we all knew.
@Dragonfist9007 жыл бұрын
I'm wating for Funimation's Dub to come out before I make my opinion known on my own channel. I prefer reading the manga rather than watching the show in japanese. Anyone else share my opinion or have a counter to it?
@TheTebo19948 жыл бұрын
i made a good decision to not start it yet
@RedHoodFH8 жыл бұрын
they had a great buildup in the tournament this with vegeta steam rolling people and then they dropped the ball
@Pokemonvkirby128 жыл бұрын
you sould do more moveset videos again
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
XV defies moveset videos. I would have done something like all the ultimates your created character can use, but getting them was beyond tedious. Really hope they fix that in XV2.
@HUNTENMASTA13378 жыл бұрын
forgot i was subbed to you.
@VeggiePun8 жыл бұрын
hey! your alive lol. are you gonna get Xenoverse 2? if so what are you going to get it on?
@Omega20408 жыл бұрын
Yes, and on PS4.
@jasonroman-deleon81528 жыл бұрын
Must be nice. I wish I had a ps4 :(
@Rustybits8 жыл бұрын
hey it's been a while!
@BrennySpain3 жыл бұрын
really awesome review overall! personally I do like this show overall but it feels like a sitcom most of the time! when you get to the action stuff it's really awesome I think! like truly amazing! I much prefer than GT because it felt like a rehash of the original dragon ball with goku being turned back into a kid. you might as well rewatch the original. just my thoughts overall.
@lucasbrockini72048 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Keurgui18 жыл бұрын
Worse than GT xD
@chunkyjamar83918 жыл бұрын
UPLOAD MORE MAN. Even if it's just these thought videos. You lost so many subs when all we really want is your OPINION.
@JMadlock1087 жыл бұрын
How you feel about the current arc now??
@jadielrios77198 жыл бұрын
Does this mean your back, considering it's been a year since your last video?
@kuro88658 жыл бұрын
are you ever going to get back to the dbz ps2 retrospective series
@Kreter48 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! It's been a while! How've you been :D ?
@YolandaKikou8 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness
@NorthviewVids8 жыл бұрын
man it at least better than GT. It has its good parts - but the blue transformation sucks...
@Monstermania1016 жыл бұрын
The manga will be an easier way to dive into this. Jeez the manga will be ending soon just like the anime.
@Keurgui18 жыл бұрын
Well he likes the manga so there's that
@karmitdafruge18 жыл бұрын
DBGT didn't have a manga counterpart, super does though.