Dragons' Illustrate Their Concerns About Art Businesses Materials | SEASON 18 | Dragons' Den

[@aaronhurst4379]

It was quite satisfying to see Peter be informed that he was using a children's art kit lol

[@andrewvelonis5940]

I'm impressed by the fact that when covid hit and closed her studio, she straight away found a means of keeping the business going.

[@raven4k998]

are you feeling mildly confident?

[@navd1488]

This woman is so strong n composed. I think Peter was really unfair.

[@JamesCarter1998]

4:35 Lol even Tej is rolling his eyes at Peter’s rudeness 😂

[@grumpyoldwizard]

This young lady did excellent, holding her ground with Peter. She defended her self without appearing pathetic, or bringing some social justice into the conversation. Bravo🎉

[@beckjtjt2522]

What’s wrong with social justice?

[@Stonk5331]

@@beckjtjt2522 trololololo

[@ahmedzakikhan7639]

She talks too much - which annoys a lot of people.

[@kirbyhatesincels917]

@@ahmedzakikhan7639 Those people are weak.

[@The_Lone_Wanderer_101]

Entrepreneur: I’m feeling mildly confident, I hope that shines through. Peter: peace was never an option.

[@anish6688]

Peter must’ve been in a mood that day

[@danielblair2168]

Peter: "Is it about 5000 or it's exactly 5000?" I have literally never heard a person on this show say that their turnover is 4873 for the first month and then 5124 for the second month. I don't know what he was expecting.

[@Nonegiven14582]

She didn't seem to know if it was 5000 or 5 pounds

[@jarednil69]

You haven't seen enough episodes! But there are pitchers that can recite the precise numbers.😄

[@scienceevolves4417]

Nobody knows what he was expecting.. peter.exe simply hung up😅😅😅😅

[@scienceevolves4417]

4:35 4:41 says it all really 😅😅😅😅

[@pipedown7969]

You guys all seem to be missing the point here… she was obviously trying to avoid speaking to the fact that she is operating at a loss. How much profit did you make should not be that difficult to answer or need any kind of breakdown during a pitch. Peter had to drag it out of her that she is making negative profit because she just kept repeating how much she is making revenue.

[@grandexporter]

I think peter was having a bad day, he was red in the face

[@edward9643]

Good on Debra for backing her with the numbers- she'd given a breakdown of the costs and Peter was unjustifiably impatient

[@RESISTANCE..3]

Peter was not impatient after asking more than twice for precise answers , he didn't want a breakdown he wanted straight answers and got nothing off the bat

[@joewas2225]

@@RESISTANCE..3 Bullshit

[@ouroborostechnologies696]

@@RESISTANCE..3 Yes but the majority require doing a breakdown to get to the straight answers. He was impatient.

[@RESISTANCE..3]

@@ouroborostechnologies696 disagree

[@anyexpat]

Remember most pitches last over 1 hour we see an edited version for entertainment and they film 10 episodes a day so he may have been sat there for 8 hours and she may have been babbling for 40mins at this point.

[@Tom-zq6um]

I think it must have been Peters time of the month during this episode, so unnecessarily rude, made himself look like a total prat

[@scienceevolves4417]

Perhaps he is one so he doesn't need to make himself look like one😅

[@CO-OPNEWS-wn9us]

Ouch

[@BraydenBeckham-t2c]

peteriod

[@Ron.S.]

What a lovely and energetic lady! I’d invest in her whatever she’s doing. Well done Deborah! Nothing wrong with talking “too much”. She was nervous

[@scienceevolves4417]

She didn't talk that much and at least it was relevant to the discussion at hand.

[@komo06]

Shes amazing.

[@cheryl5994]

WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE EXCITABLE SQUEALING & JUMPING UP & DOWN. . . PROFESSIONAL?

[@charlisays]

Loved her positivity and her jumpsuit was just stunning 😍😊

[@jay-dubb.dubb.68]

Classy and smart!!

[@boorhaave5880]

Why is it called a jumpsuit?

[@cheryl5994]

NOT AT ALL PROFESSIONAL THOUGH, UNDERWEAR WAS VISIBLE FROM BEHIND AND OFF THE SHOULDER ISN’T WHAT ANYONE SHOULD BE WEARING FOR AN INTERVIEW TYPE SETTING, BUT THAT’S JUST MY OPINION.

[@johnmchugh4655]

One of those pitches that Peter was wanting to be awkward from the off, even better she stood up to him and got an offer. His attitude with her was appalling

[@skilledjanjua297]

His comments weren't entirely polite or necessary, it reminds me of the earlier series when he was younger, though in recent years it's not often the viewer sees this side of his personality, not very good but he has moderated it quite a bit over time.

[@johnmchugh4655]

@@skilledjanjua297 totally agree, his behaviour had been even worse in the early series', childish at times.

[@OperaJH]

Peter can never be bothered with people coming in with fantastic numbers, which then turn out to be, ONLY after much digging by HIM, masking a business that is actually LOSING money. So it’s not that he gets testy when a person makes mistakes, because he’s helped many people correct their evaluations and even invested in them. He gets irritated with the entrepreneur when their incorrect evaluations change the picture of the business from rosy and growing, to one that is actually failing. Then on top of that he doesn’t like the value of what she’s charging. So it’s not his thing, so what if he’s testy? That indicates someone wanting to like something, but is irritated that it didn’t come up to snuff. AND he does take comebacks on the chin. He gave his reasons and they are valid. He’s a no nonsense kind of guy, but because he says it, people get angry when actually, 99% of the time he sums up what almost all, or all, of the other dragons feel, and which they verbalize in different ways, but they all saying the same thing. Peter is a great businessman to listen to, watch and learn. And I think, wink, wink, he knew Deborah wanted it, and since he didn’t, it’s all drama for TV. It seems that people are so people don’t understand what business is. when business with they have a valuations incorrect. any person makes an error, but they

[@jonyoung2057]

If an average pitch is 1-2 hours, we’ve really no idea how the entire moment played out

[@Nocturnalux]

I wonder if he was kind of annoyed at Debra’s drawing of him?

[@notrecyborg5492]

What a beautiful and capable girl. I think she'll go far. Peter savaged her. I think he missed the point of it all tbh.

[@scienceevolves4417]

In the end he got humiliated when he found out he'd spent the better part of an hour colouring kids kit😅😅😅😅

[@texyrexy]

Old testament Peter coming out again in this one.

[@RhazCastillon]

deborah has a pure heart❤

[@BenjaminGoose]

lol no multimillionaire has a pure heart

[@ObzTicle]

Peter was a little too harsh here

[@moogleking]

She seems so happy

[@sooploopz]

Finally a dragons den pitch that doesn't sound awkward 😅

[@gerardford9706]

9:35 she's such a sweetheart i love her. I hate how dismissive Peter was with his tone "all right"

[@yvie9627]

Exactly why I couldn’t work with Peter. He isn’t a mentor, he has such high expectations, yet to this day has business he launches and fails. Like the one with his wife and Holly. Very judgemental.

[@Norfolkgal22]

I liked her. Perhaps not with this specific business but I hope she will go far with the right project.

[@johnmightymole2284]

Peter was weirdly harsh on this one.

[@tomekk.1889]

I don't think so. She was unprepared

[@captainhindsight8779]

That’s pretty cool to be fair, ngl. And the entrepreneur has great energy.

[@williebobs3830]

NGL ?.

[@rachael2908]

​@@williebobs3830not going to lie

[@williebobs3830]

Thankyou

[@BenjaminGoose]

@@williebobs3830 It's one of those cringe gen z terms that means "not gonna lie".

[@williebobs3830]

@@BenjaminGoose Thankyou

[@b-dogs1038]

What a lovely lady & her exchange with Peter @ 9:38 😂

[@Hutchyy]

Companies House says they dissolved in July 2022 but their website seems to still be active

[@internet_userr]

😂

[@academiae-learning7424]

@Hutchyy i was looking for this comment 🤣🤣

[@withgoddess]

Telling her she played victim by speaking of her mother's illness is an utter disgrace.

[@robabob1001]

But she did? I get stuff happens, its bad, its also life. She could have easily just said its good for mental health, its proven, its getting prescribed on the NHS. Absolutely no need to bring up her dead mam, except for playing the victim. Its a business meeting, she's 'rambling' on about family for sympathy, which she's getting plenty of on here tbf, so it worked.

[@tomburnz9705]

@@robabob1001I mean you are completely wrong and clearly didn’t listen to her properly 🙄

[@robabob1001]

@tomburnz9705 did she bring up her mam, yes. Was it needless, yes. Was it just to get sympathy, yes. Bad things happen to everyone, everyone. Don't bring it up like you've been especially affected 🙄😅

[@tomtrevatt3286]

@@robabob1001 She brought it up to describe her journey to realising her business dreams, sympathy had nothing to do with it. Many other entreprenuers talk about life changing moments that spurred them on to build their businesses.

[@kylecreed2748]

She’s gorgeous and seems so sweet.

[@BenjaminGoose]

Phew, finally a mindful painting experience. I was getting sick of all the mindless painting experiences.

[@adamlacey81]

Phew, finally a mindful painting experience. I was getting sick of all the mindless painting experiences.

[@Vikanuck]

@@adamlacey81 You should do standup comedy. With a quick wit like that you’ll be the next Robin Williams. Or you can always just gonna be some dick on the internet. Those are cool too.

[@adamlacey81]

@@Vikanuck I take my lead from you of course. Used to see you back in the day in that strange dressing gown outside the Co-Op cracking one liners to people.

[@mr.jamesdavidrobert2115]

There’s a fine line between getting to the point and behaving like a dick. Peter’s behaviour was completely unnecessary.

[@Skate2heaven]

that was amazing. no need for less or more words or anything. absolute prefect, every word had meaning. very impressive

[@Tayxox]

What a sweet lady she seemed so happy and proactive, I don’t agree with what Peter said at all! She didn’t ramble. Good on her and good on Deborah for investing! Hope this went well 😊

[@matt5802]

Don't know why PJ took an instant dislike to this young lady.....he was visibly irritated at her open displays of enthusiasm. Surely that is what you want from an entrepreneur?

[@kiwe7511]

He likes reggae reggae sauce lol

[@susanwaugh9711]

Peters attitude was absolutely appalling

[@FRANCESCA01234]

She is adorable ❤

[@gnasser6694]

Great speaking skill she was able to put Peter back in his seat.

[@lukeporter6186]

Peter woke up on the wrong side of bed that morning.

[@kiwe7511]

The beds are too short in the hotel. He gets cranky

[@bb7370]

She handled Peter brilliantly , he was not in the mood. Deborah knew what she was doing defending the pitcher and even investing❤👌

[@Campha01]

I’m still young but I have a feel that I’m gonna be sitting with these dragons very soon.

[@DrPsychoSexy]

I don't know man, their cleaning staff is a pretty competitive scene

[@guitarsolos89]

Any1 who knows more details about how it all went down after?

[@KimmimaruSai]

peter so cranky lol eat a snickers

[@akgo2684]

I like that shes just herself

[@lousifer4584]

We can paint ourselves an even better picture 😀😀😀😀........... brilliant.🙂

[@rosyvision]

Why could I not just buy art supplies in a pound store and do art at home? There's also lots of places online already to buy art sets from. It's nothing new and if their goal is to be therapeutic, then you could just do this all yourself for far less without having to go anywhere. If people are being thought how to draw better, yeah maybe there's a big enough market for it but I just don't think it's necessary.

[@onceajordan]

It would be costlier to buy full paint board kit light box

[@mok8591]

I think point is that you’re not in the right place to buy everything separately and without a tutor to assist you and hence the product.

[@WaniZame]

She is beautiful. She needed a hug from Debra at the end. Happy she backed her up against Peter.

[@GhostFaceReviews]

Peter really needs to lighten up, her wealth in this life is her happiness and energy which is something he clearly doesn't have.

[@NarinderSingh-jd4vz]

Absolutely Gem of a lady!

[@76-UVB]

Touker could save her a bundle and improve the bottom line by getting her to ditch the posh Belgravia address and move in to his London office space

[@jay-dubb.dubb.68]

🎨🖼🏢😅🤣😂

[@donjoe2661]

Haba haba 😘 What a masterpeace. Brilliant!

[@Yasmina-1979at]

Debra looks displeased with Peter’s terrible attitude, rightly so.

[@boorhaave5880]

My name is Zena, I'm a warrior princess

[@Goat.Herder]

Thing is, i think people will buy into her and her enthusiasm. Really it dies well, great space to create for people too

[@juliet7703]

She made me laugh when Peter said "I haven't been listening to half of this"..she replies"ok" like that's fine. I do agree with him about needing a reality check

[@CravenCoetzee]

If you look at Peter's face, I think it's pretty obvious he was upset about something else. He looked really sad, almost like he had been crying. I don't think his head was in the right place on this day.

[@dillingerescapeartis]

It may not be the right business but the lady is certainly the correct person for the job. She just needs to run a different company than her pitch or with some overhaul on the pitched idea. With the exception of saying “brilliant” to congratulate herself (I’m from US, may be lost in translation there). TLDR: She’s brilliant but needs a different business to run. 😊

[@Pobsta-de7hb]

struggling with 18 minus 36 and its a banker

[@cameronpather99]

She’s very charming and witty!😂

[@David-ev8bb]

Wow she is stunning

[@charliemctruth]

Peter Jones wouldn't know how to paint a kitchen door.

[@jackdaviesjd98]

She’s soooo likeable

[@sineadbradyfan2151]

I think Peter was extremely rude and unfair to Zena. The way many women communicate is by "thinking out loud" the process before/to arrive at an answer. He was basically demeaning to her because she wasn't using his communication style. And she was in no way victimizing herself. But relieved she got an offer. I've also been waiting for years to see a 'jumper' in the den - someone enthusiastic and jumping with excitement. I think she's one of my favourites so far.

[@4RedDwarf3]

I dunno what the rest of you were watching in the comments that clap clap clap stuff was far too cringe, not hating on the girl, I just hope she isn't like that outside of dragons den.

[@scienceevolves4417]

I love how she bigged up herself by exclaiming "brilliant" at the end of her own pitch😅

[@JOHNRGRAY]

Zena is a cutie Hope she does well.

[@Barberdon2022]

Uff she a baddie 😍

[@ToXristianikoKanali]

I dont like this lady. Overly excited for no reason

[@kingsaf90]

Why are they so harsh on her?!?!?!?!

[@jamesdenton6370]

I swear Touker opens literally every interaction with an entrepreneur by telling them they’re credible. Someone send this man a thesaurus.

[@TheNails3]

lol

[@RockyDave]

That makes sense.

[@scienceevolves4417]

Unless of course they're not credible, in which case he calls them incredible😅

[@elliottkinsella-calverley8472]

Disspointed by Peter really poor after saying great words at rhe beginning. What a lovely lady full of energy 🔥

[@anyexpat]

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[@UncleBenjs]

HelloFresh have been messaging me about you, they told me to meet you here in the comments. Are you ready? Have you started preparation yet?

[@RockyDave]

Good morning from Hello Fresh. How are you today? Are you ready to subscribe?

[@anyexpat]

@@RockyDave ahahah

[@richardanthonygilbey]

The writing is on the wall for masterpiece

[@cindynewman902]

Peter runs hot and cold. This time cold! He was mean.

[@shsh-he5qg]

What a stunning looking woman ! Without looking like a creep 😂 but genuinely that woman is stunning !

[@jonathan0834]

The Deal had Completed but ..... but Wikipedia lists business Dissolved She had to Start it all Again . Now it’s online

[@ceeleegee825]

Wow! Caught this at midnight! I was just about to go to bed, but I'll see where this goes......

[@JazzyMarineVet]

Isnt it always a nice little surprise

[@ProfRoofs]

Peter was annoying. Not sure what his issue was that day. Looked grumpy. Wrong side of the bed?

[@ibukunoluoladunjoye2444]

"Briilliant!"😊

[@crazy-jake]

I agree with Peter.

[@cindynewman902]

Yay Deborah !

[@The_Orgazoid]

does anyone working for this channel know how to correctly use an apostrophe?

[@keithhodgson6489]

Or start a sentence with a capital letter?

[@withgoddess]

i d'o !! !

[@joewas2225]

I'm glad she got a deal & the other Dragons are completely wrong about this. She deserves it.

[@Hi-dd8gr]

Lost my respect for Peter, he was just being awkward and awful. ... Debra on the other hand was good.

[@rachmadsuhartono]

i think i saw similar product here before. or on shark thank us

[@roybarnes-thewildlifeman1855]

At 1:12, Deborah surely looks stressed. Time to take up a brush…

[@gabriellanaser2454]

Peter was a total brat on this lady, christ.

[@asimbaterara4619]

She is scrumptious ... just for that I back her up!

[@scienceevolves4417]

Juicy comments

[@Mark-yk1ny]

I'll give it a go 🤣🤣 good old Debra 😆

[@internet_userr]

You'll give what a go?

[@green_firefly]

I hate it when everyone just brushes the word 'mindfulness' on anything trying to sell stuff. There is nothing mindful here. It's just painting pictures. Can't imagine this lasting long. Edit: Already out of business. There you go.

[@ToXristianikoKanali]

Dinner time

[@NB_NB_NB]

Sausages, scrambled eggs & beans

[@ToXristianikoKanali]

@@NB_NB_NB nice

[@NB_NB_NB]

@@ToXristianikoKanali it was!

[@derpyboi8591]

Peter and old fart decided to be twats that episode I guess

[@saraa350]

Peter behaved appallingly here.

[@dominic7015]

I do think Peter is right though. She did try to play the victim card to sway favour. Not a great tact. Respect to Peter for actually calling it out.

[@twigityful]

I feel Tukar and Tej are of weak personalities, easily swayed and have no depth in their comments , sometimes they copy what other dragons say... Today i found them annoying

[@gordondevlin977]

Peter looks ragin she got an offer

[@mohanmmediqbaldesai9781]

Omg. Peter is so rude.

[@Nonegiven14582]

How can people give up a high paying, high flying job. To sell a box of pencils for 25 quid?

[@DIVADUCHESSE]

Probably fired...😂

[@philipbrit13]

Can we get the NHS to prescribe Decent Morally Centered - Fiscally Responsible Politicians to run the nation ??

[@BenjaminGoose]

Peter's racism is really showing here.

[@msadraei]

I’m a man of colour but that’s not fair on Peter. I hope he sees my comment and invest in my project ;)

[@Boshek2019]

Debrah is the anti-Jenny

[@Hutchyy]

She speaks like Liz Truss

[@scienceevolves4417]

She's very trusswortthy