Peter Discovers A Design Flaw In This Product | Dragons' Den

Palatis and Citi are asking £60,000 for 8% equity in their company 'Handisure'
Season 20, Episode 13.
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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[@PeterPanbe]

They should add batteries and make it vibrate. I’m sure moms would buy it then.

[@chaimbradley1]

Moms.

[@PeterPanbe]

@@chaimbradley1 corrected. Apologies English is only my 4th language. From Belgium so first Dutch, then French, then German and then English.

[@TobiasTheWolf]

How is adding batteries and a vibrating mechanism going to make moms buy it? It will just make the product more expensive and the only thing that I could see the vibrating be useful for is… ohwaitaminute

[@edddggrondoon97315]

​@@pmason6076 Mam not mum

[@Danfrank24]

@@edddggrondoon97315all accept mum or mam but never Mom.

[@oyuyuy]

They invented 'An object hanging from a string' and sell it for £20

[@mcfcguvnors]

tiny wedge or a bloody doorstop

[@borisdamole]

Wine cork on a string

[@BanksyOz]

thought i heard 90.90 not 19.90

[@jaymederril1610]

Honestly a pen on a string would be more effective than this.

[@jamesdemo18]

​@@BanksyOz yeah same here 80 pounds and 90dollar, I mean I'll make one out of a piece of scrap wood the day I get a child

[@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Ive got 29 internal doors in my property.. How the other half live 😂😂😂

[@Marais-cu3vo]

Yeah, and her company lost £1 million last financial year.

[@DarrenJCalvert]

@@Marais-cu3vo she is likely in debt up to her doorstep 😂 anyone who instantly can tell you they have 29 doors is clearly a person who likes to show off…after all who cares 😂

[@jamestonkin8610]

​@@Marais-cu3vo yet she's sat there are you're sat there 😉

[@jodia2125]

I got 4😂

[@Veeooom]

​@@jamestonkin8610not for long if her company keeps performing like it is 😂

[@i.canalista7718]

They patented something no one wants to design or copy

[@JS-bh3pz]

They also need to pay annual fees to keep this patent. Companies give up patents on dated solutions to save paying the fee.

[@pez555]

It has already been solved with stretchy fabric - we have them installed on all our internal doors.

[@benaloney]

And didn’t work that well either…

[@aviation_nut]

Not only that but it's so easy to design or copy. I could easily build this from stuff I've got in my junk drawer. But even barring that, one of the glaring flaws I see is if you try to shut the door with enough force you're going to break the door straight out of the hinges.

[@blametl4921]

Sorry are you just talking about 98% of patents

[@DavidTheRoss]

Seems like overkill. Why not just fit a flow signal?

[@Doomscrollin]

This will save lives

[@JamieLikesGames]

It's Amber in colour

[@albal20051]

You win funniest comment of 2024 😂🎉

[@user-vp3nr5dm6o]

Or hang seaweed

[@Shrampion]

😂

[@sandras5624]

All i can say is ”magic wand” 😂

[@HK_Musician]

Yeah 😂

[@OddNaud]

You've definitely had a few magical experiences ✨

[@mcfcguvnors]

yes 2 mis with that youll be praying to god

[@redheadedstepchildatwalmart]

you said it fr😄

[@seventeen9718]

😩😩😩🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@PaulStewartAviation]

"how the other half live" I do like Steven's cheekiness!

[@The_Real_Grand_Nagus]

2:35 - did they just show us how to make our own? Imagine that's a small rubber ball instead of a pepper. Looks like you just need a paperclip and a string plus some piece of rubber material you can attach.

[@storm1110]

😂😂😂 So true

[@randellbigr1960]

this reminds me when i invented the breathable condom, It didn't quite work

[@bebenewbornphotography170]

🤣

[@CraftingMyWorld]

😅😅

[@scienceevolves4417]

Reminds me when I opened an abortion clinic in Saudi....😅

[@Lincolntowncoupe]

Reminds me of the screen door I invented for use on a submarine.

[@franciscolaurean8550]

I thought the pitch was gonna be for a different device 👀

[@PeterPanbe]

Lol!!!!! It’s a joy forever 😂

[@dynogamergurl]

It looks like a giant tampon thing

[@SirLawrenceBarrisclaw]

UPDATE: their last company statement showed debts for £60,000. The couple are also directors in another company in the wholesale of perfumes and cosmetics with debts of £17,000.

[@user-wm1zg1dh8f]

Debt is not unusual for any company and nor is it always unhealthy. That 60,000 is literally just a number with no context.

[@SmVor]

But their P/L is positive right? Need to look at their equity part too

[@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Great business acumen then😂😂 but these are the type of people that will jump from business to business leaving massive debt in there wake..

[@SmVor]

You knows them well, must be their cousin

[@SirLawrenceBarrisclaw]

@@SmVor no. Everything is available online in Companies House.

[@M_E_T_R_O__9]

rather than stop the door closing on their fingers, wouldn't it be smarter to design of a flat collapsable wedge to stop them being able to trap their fingers at all?

[@wintersun398]

those are fitted on a lot of fast food restaurants.

[@AwesometownUSA]

why not just put padded mittens on the baby’s hands, to make sure they’re protected at all times? heck, why not just wrap the baby in bubble wrap? haha

[@dammii96]

They’re indians

[@bobstirling6885]

Wow! What an awkward over-complicated device that you need on every door in the house and if you forget to swing it away every time you close the door you will soon rip the door off its hinges especially if the wind catches it. How often to kids really get their fingers caught in a door? I think car doors are the more likely to catch a child's hand in and these wouldn't work for those, nor for cupboards, drawers, etc where I expect most of the crush injuries actually occur.

[@mad-cyantist3159]

If anything, You will end trapping ur own fingers in the door by swinging that thing every time u have to close the door.

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

It's not overcomplicated. It's solving an actual issue.

[@seanA416]

​@@TheManInBlueFlamesit's really not. The door can be opened enough for a little kids to get through without the device working.

[@googleuser8740]

Are you sure it would rip off the door doesn't look like it

[@emberguard5009]

More to the point, when and how would this come into play? If every time you would use it you have to stop it from working in order to close the door, then it has no use cases. Kids would more often than not only get their fingers caught when following someone else through a door

[@kh8189]

Apparently on Amazon it destroys people's door hinges

[@paulcredmond]

I think it's a bit naive saying the Dragon's "don't understand the problem". They clearly did, they all acknowledged that. They didn't invest because it's a flawed product that's too expensive. Fix that and they probably have a market.

[@hydra9259]

Exactly! I was looking for this comment. Kinda arrogant from him to even say that

[@yesno7889]

Even so they usually only invest when they’re certain they can get a reliable return out of the business. If they can’t understand your product or have any suspicion on the reliability of their returns they wouldn’t invest even if the business is actually not bad.

[@purrfekt]

@@yesno7889 Their prudence is why they're called investors, and not gamblers. That's also why they have money and are sitting in those chairs on DD.

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Looks like a perfect way to wreck the door hinge. And if the door holds, the device will crack like a Hazelnut and you gotta order another 89 pound gadget to crack.

[@MeHappyz]

£18.99 not £89

[@keithwhittington1322]

It will wreck the hinges.

[@colinwinterman]

thats exactly what I thought mate

[@angelradness5542]

I have this device and had to return it because it split the wood the hinges are mounted on. It's a horrible device.

[@LawriesCameras]

Would a wine Cork and string not do the same

[@dynogamergurl]

A tampon would work the same too

[@Kevin-dn9jp]

Update: Yeah that works, the bottom of the cork slips in when open a bit, door cannot close fully so would also have to do that awkward swing, but it seems like it would be lighter than their device and took less than a minute to make myself.

[@ryleypalmer]

@@Kevin-dn9jpyoure a fast drinker

[@There-Is-No-Virus]

5:37 - 'Back to the drawing board' face.

[@pbsm4127]

If you want to be overprotective... Take the door off... 😊😊😊

[@A_Dog_Formerly_Known_As_Cat]

If it were triangle shaped and magnetic with a little metal sticker that goes in the door jam it would solve Peter's issue of having to open the door wider than a toddler would need

[@random-nz7dy]

I'm pretty sure those exist already though

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

Just put your toddler on a leash

[@MrKiar1611]

a fault design but it was a easy fix, the head should be replaceable with different size and so it fits all kind of hinge distance.

[@DK_Son]

There's something off and archaic about it. And with enough pressure, it will slowly ruin the hinges. Toddlers lean up against doors and things, and slam them shut. How many times does that happen until the door busts off the hinges? You also have to reach over to the other side of the door every time you wanna get it out. That would be so annoying. How many times do you wanna do that every day, for a decade or so? There's gotta be something better you can do on the handle side. I can already imagine a bunch of designs that could work on the handle side.

[@baders087]

Peter has become the new Theo and identifying design flaws.

[@LouAntonioGiordano]

Me having guest over “Why do they have a magic wand on every door?”

[@tothepast]

I find it quite impressive that she knows the exact amount of doors in her house by heart. I have 5, and even I have to count in my head. I wonder what story is behind that very specific piece of knowledge.

[@TechnoidProduction]

Our family replaced a bunch of internal doors a few years ago with fire doors, so it might be one of those weird things you'd remember for a weird maintenance reason.

[@Revster]

She said she child proofed them so it was probably on the bill

[@UnknownUnrecognized]

29 doors in a house, she thinks everyone is like her...

[@highplains]

It's amazing how quickly door numbers pile up, but yeah, 29 is on the upper scale

[@RealRushinRussian]

I really don't think she does. But she tried to prove a point by stating how much it would cost to fit every door in her house with this device. Which is equally silly because you can probably afford these silly ballsacks if you have a 29 door home.

[@ianrae1546]

To be fair, I think she was just pointing out how expensive it would be to fully child proof your house using this product. I’m in a two bedroom house and it would cost me about £100 to have one of these on each of my internal doors.

[@Benjamin1986980]

Did you include closets and bathrooms?​ Because that means you're probably in a one-bedroom apartment. 10 to 15 doors is not unusual for small house.

[@UnknownUnrecognized]

@@Benjamin1986980 yeah, she lives in 2 bed apt, slums

[@anovosedlik]

PLEASE tell me he's a better surgeon than he is a product designer!

[@Orangutan_Stella]

Why? What do you need done 🤔😜

[@ParanoidAandroid]

He's a better surgeon than he is a product designer.

[@adrianaugustus2815]

He did amzainf worg on mi fongerz

[@cuthwulf]

He’ll make sure you come again

[@olimot8081]

I’m afraid not. I had an operation on my leg and woke up with 4 arms!

[@Crispynuggets28]

"And now please I will demonstrate the vibrate function on my wife" -All dragons make an offer.

[@d.k.1394]

Lol

[@AdamBechtol]

ha

[@onone7300]

Or the busband

[@chaytiano6896]

ONE UNMARKETABLE TOMATO

[@LuvableAF]

That’s what my boss calls me 😊🚫🍅🥫

[@pupplemupple]

No more than one unmarketable tomato 🍅

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

It's marketable if you give them different colours and shapes for each stopper.

[@Jakejones1445]

This just made me scream lmaooo love that video

[@Spridium1Jono]

So close. They just need that same product made of a much thinner steel rod with magnet sticky pads on the door face or frame to dock it to when not wanted.

[@__rmk__9360]

This! I was able to visualize till redesigning it in a discreet manner to fit into that narrow opening, but I was wondering how tricky it would be to remove it for closing the door every time.. your comment answered my doubt... but even then, there is a risk..

[@user-mn1rj9ve6y]

Looks like a viberator

[@ArjunPakrashi]

29 internal doors? I have more. (Like cupboards and counting both sides of a doors).

[@spoonerstreet32]

Time to find out which dragon has been unusually quiet

[@kpag3030]

You know how they learn to keep their fingers out of door jams and closing drawers on them? They get their fingers caught once. That’s all they need to understand to be more careful. Like touching fire. They know after one time.

[@pdan4]

True, but sadly it can cause permanent damage.

[@Eyeball-with-legs]

You mean losing a finger to learn a lesson? 😂

[@TunaIRL]

This is the same way I teach my kids why car crashes are bad!

[@danielalvesldiniz]

yep, the way my kids learn not to pour boiling water on themselves after messing with pots on the stove is to get 3rd degree burns one single time

[@Girtharmstrong69]

You people are weak​@@Eyeball-with-legs

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

if you feel the need to protect your kids from doors your crazy

[@arreng2364]

wait... my grandmother used the same idea using her old toothbrush 25 years ago 😂 ...You patented an idea who is not even yours 😂

[@countrymusicandcher8593]

Tbh what's the need? At our summer house we have foam pieces that goes on the door frame, getting in the way so the door can't be closed properly and get jammed stuck if you try to

[@JacaboBlanco]

7:30 Nice humble brag 😂

[@drew9923]

I used a latch. Cost $2. Keeps the door fixed in place.

[@dylan-nguyen]

seems like you could just make soft close hinges like they do for cabinets..

[@madscientist8286]

Oh - it's a great tool hanging in front of the door to e.g. break a glass door... plus it looks like a... pleasure device :D

[@wintersun398]

maybe it was initially designed a pleasure device

[@redheadedstepchildatwalmart]

3:50 she is def thinkin hitachi😂😂

[@jasonbored8319]

I'll use a Tampon on the door

[@phoonoh]

“Saftey” 🤣

[@AlexNishi-hb2ne]

They already sell side plates that connects with the door and wall and covers the whole door.

[@stealthbeastgaming]

The second biggest flaw in the product is that absolutely anyone could improvise it with junk lying around their house.

[@tonytoonstours]

It's 4:50 am. This will not work

[@triple7marc]

There is a typo in the thumbnail of this video.

[@malcolmclements9254]

Im 64 when I was 6, I got my fingers trapped, I still remember the pain.

[@adamfields1761]

But if the toddler is squeezing through the tiny gap how are their fingers in the gap to be crushed, seems like a minuscule risk stacked on top of a rare chance.

[@mobiuseno]

I've 29 internal doors in my house, oh la la 😏

[@metallitech]

But if the door is only slightly open, then it can't slam or close with much momentum, am I right?

[@londontrada]

A hinge redesign would make more sense. Like the soft door closers you get on kitchen drawers and cabinets

[@CHUCKALUCKALUCKA]

He really got the idea when his wife's hitachi got snagged in the door jam...

[@danb2936]

A better more safer design would be like an 🪗 accordion type...like a plastic mesh that sticks to each side of the door and frame etc 😊😊😊❤

[@TheDegamad]

For some kids, not getting their finger caught in a door at least once, they won't learn.

[@AbigailAntonio-eu2kh]

I've had my finger trapped in a door many time but it's always at the gap near the doorknob. Not at the place they hanged the tomato so I couldn't really visualize it well when they demonstrated lols.

[@charlisays]

I cant see people actually buying this for every door in their house!

[@ianrae1546]

Certainly not at £19 a pop. It would cost me about 100 quid. Sara was right, there are much cheaper and more practical alternatives out there.

[@AwesometownUSA]

@@ianrae1546 they said it was _£89!_

[@sanremo112]

0:54 Peter tries to do the math in his head.

[@rajsavraj1106]

Anyone thinking what I’m thinking 🤣

[@erichall3326]

Do you have a string and almost any similar sized object? then you already own this.

[@ghamandlupin]

It looks like a vibrating wand

[@frozengamer3030]

Sara has enough money to buy fingers for her kids.

[@Fuckethead]

she was in the news yesterday because her company is now £1 million in debt

[@frozengamer3030]

@@Fuckethead really

[@AKAxeMan]

My exterior doors open inwards. Am I supposed to hang these outside my house?

[@SPDATA1]

Peter...😂👍💯

[@barrybray1839]

And there's me thinking at first it's a gadget for the lady's....

[@samuelruggieri2117]

How about a simple doop stop?

[@michaelgillman2505]

That's fine if what you want to stop is a doop. However we are trying to solve a problem with doors slamming. If I ever have a problem with doop, I will be sure to try a doop stop.

[@X-13-X]

What about that tomato press? That looked like a product I‘d buy.

[@thedanieljamesjeff]

Havent i seen one of these somewhere

[@faultboy]

Just use a stretchable fabric at the lower parts of the hinge, no gap anymore...

[@TheMattwasherein1992]

I could go into my shed and build that same device with a piece of string screwed into a 20cm piece of dowel....

[@zarlus8]

This comment is too far down. I instantly saw a "dowel on string" too.

[@CallumWK]

if the string was almost half way down instead of on the top it would make the thin part fall in the hinge side first 🤷‍♂

[@greyship1341]

Let's 3D print one and check it out...

[@steve1290r]

I got 13 internal doors. Just here to flex 😂

[@zigakrajnc6770]

A rubber ball on a string would achieve the same effect.

[@mr2spyderchronicles287]

silly is the word that comes to my mind

[@WarpRulez]

I don't understand what that offers compared to any random object hanging from a string.

[@user-ki3je4oe6d]

I put a string on a carrot. 20p, not £20.

[@DeonMakene]

This reminds me of that one episode of The Simpsons where Homer made the electric hammer.

[@ShawnTempesta]

I discovered a flaw in the spelling of SAFETY in your thumbnail.

[@Cypher791]

What if I am carrying a plate.. and I have to do that pendulum thing to shut the door behind me… lucky it doesn’t work or that would get really annoying… 🤦‍♂️

[@NomadUniverse]

Whats to stop me tying a piece of dowel to a string?

[@CarpeDiemTraveller]

I spotted a spelling FLAW in the thumbnail! 😂😂

[@Kasperbjerby]

Even if this somehow worked and was something people wanted, what where they thinking with that price? It's insane.. It's a piece of plastic on a string

[@edetsy12]

Spelt “SAFTEY” wrong in the thumbnail…

[@NoNo-uy2bq]

No they didn’t

[@SpacexWitch]

Hahaha

[@me-myself-i787]

​@@NoNo-uy2bqYes they did.

[@NoNo-uy2bq]

@@me-myself-i787 could’ve sworn it was spelt right for a minute

[@travischesney8898]

I've discovered a design flaw in the thumbnail- they spelled it "Saftey"

[@Munrogym24]

Pops the hinges

[@moonliteX]

A piece of string and ANY object of suitable size

[@saskiamoni1417]

Sara has 20 doors in her house wow she lives in a castle 😮

[@raphael9485]

not necessarily, i live in a 3 bedroom house and we have 12 doors all together, obviously she lives in a bigger house but it is not that much if you consider how many doors a normal house has

[@rf159a]

@@raphael9485 I live in a small rancher with a basement and counted 13 doors in my house

[@jakesmith-bs4jd]

29

[@mad-cyantist3159]

It's not that big if u think about it. Moderate sized housed

[@NoNo-uy2bq]

Think we have about 25 odd

[@Rainydaysq8]

at this point this is literally a scam way too expensive and doesnt work lmfao

[@greebo6549]

5:50, was thinking the same, at work we have a rubber ‘horseshoe’ that slots onto the side of the door, to keep it open so nobody needs to clock out when the food catering service arrives… problem solved

[@zombieblaster5754]

a bouncy ball, piece of string, and a pen or something and youve got their product for maybe $3

[@deepfiix]

I had two fingers crushed and severed in the hinge side of a door when I was ten years old, Palatis and Citi should have taken me on the den with them to show the damage it can cause.

[@Geoglyph89]

Great.

[@deepfiix]

@@Geoglyph89 isn't it just? You should have seen the blood, it was magnificent.

[@dddddd211]

Okay so just because you got your hand crushed it's a good product. Got it... f*cking useless.

[@googleuser8740]

How did she do her whole house for £10 would love to know

[@akhannar9368]

Saying that you hold a patent in China is like admitting to buying a plot of land on the moon...

[@AdamBechtol]

Hahah indeed.

[@Lincolntowncoupe]

I want to know how many of those 49,000 sold were returned

[@theconsolekiller7113]

Keeping the legs closed is a great technique to avoid this problem.

[@caseyhill636]

That’s not the point where anyone gets their fingers crunched. It’s the handle side, not the hinge side. I’m not sure what the point of this is

[@lancealex382]

Their mark one prototype, i suspect was a brick!

[@AdamBechtol]

:p

[@Joey_23]

Could literally just copy that design with some household items for like 10 cents.