Dragons Infuriated by Reusable Water Bottle | Dragons' Den

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[@Tannyller]

Carrying the bottle back after a run wouldn't be a hassle anymore.

[@alexandergazmen3126]

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[@MrHristoB]

after watching this, NO THANK YOU!!! You dont get my time.

[@layalaya9367]

His bottle is now available in 16 countries -he has sold 100,000 of them, also signed a distribution deal with Marks & Spence

[@annabelsummer2643]

Good

[@HoodlumMedia]

Glad he took away the learnings, because there was a lot that he really needed to hear here. The product is great but I can 100% agree on how frustrating it is to hear another company claim to save the world then insult you with bloated stats that aren't actually relevent. To lead his pitch talking about a market he wasn't going to penetrate at all is just an absolute slap in the face for those dragons

[@sanatanar]

I pray that it's true... Environment first

[@HoodlumMedia]

@@sanatanar keep in mind that he's consuming plastic, not saving it. Dial down to the number of people who actually consistently use them without purchasing bottled beverages, and it's very small

[@sanatanar]

@@HoodlumMedia plastic in itself is not evil. It's just that we ove indulged in it. Plastic will be always around however the reuse aspect will be far more , hence forth, than in the past. And a durable plastic bottle will not be very harmful. I am against plastic, don't get me wrong. But there are areas where it's presence is imperative.

[@gammamuepsilon]

i've never seen people so angry over a reusable water bottle before oh my god

[@Shryce]

They;'re right to be !

[@gammamuepsilon]

@@Shryce I don't see how! The concept may be a little off but to get so angry about someone wanting to reduce single-use plastic bottles and calling it a ridiculous idea is insane, especially given the current push against single-use and the fact that most people have a reusable bottle. Seems like they all had incredibly short-sighted responses

[@pashiki5480]

@@gammamuepsilon . They are business people my friend. They couldnt care less about the environment unless they could make a serious return on it.

[@ad_2211]

Paul S yes agreed probably not a great business proposition but really no need to behave like brats as it wasn’t such a bad idea.

[@pashiki5480]

@@ad_2211 . environmentally a great idea but sadly not business wise

[@breadonitsown8950]

The anger was overkill on this one...the guy was hardly arrogant or insulting.

[@tornagawn]

Not arrogant? Really?? What do you call someone whose company has made 700 quid and values it at 1 million quid? Er, arrogant?

[@sarah-annecarney5458]

Not at all! And reusable bottles are a thing so Im confused at their anger.

[@sarah-annecarney5458]

@@tornagawn I think they meant his general attitude and demeanour wasn't arrogant as opposed to his belief in his company.

[@JSmellerM]

@@sarah-annecarney5458 When I go to work I use a reusable coffee bottle which keeps cool stuff cool and hot stuff hot. When I go to the gym I use a reusable bottle. Most gyms even give you such a bottle for free. At my last work in the warehouse they gave me a reusable bottle to use on their taps. Why would anyone need this thing when you are literally already drowned in reusable bottles? 1 million pound business my ass.

[@rahul_r3666]

@Jay Jay Reusable plastic is not a problem. Hear me out. Let's take a plastic bag. Single use plastic bags are bad, right? Now if I tell you it takes more energy and releases more CO2 to produce a paper bag. You need to reuse a paper bag 3 times to make it more environmentally friendly than a single use plastic bag. Most paper bags won't last 3 shopping trips even if you wanted to use them. What about textile bags? Well those you need to reuse 131 times to make it as environmentally friendly. That's only taking into account production. More co2, is released in transportation. Now what about plastic bags for life. They need to be reused 4 times to make them environmentally friendly. Now what are you more likely to do: reuse a bag for life 4 times or a textile bag 131 times.

[@all-caps3927]

He called himself “sophisticated” yet he’s getting angry over a water bottle. This has to be the biggest joke of an episode ever filmed in the den.

[@johnm-cz6xb]

well said!!!!!

[@pixiepaws99]

These are investors, they're sub human worthelss trash. They've never done a minute of actual work in their lives. Nothing they say has any value.

[@amalekedomite]

He's not angry about the water bottle he's angry about the investment opportunity being presented combined with the valuation of the company.

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

The dragons were unnecessarily rude to this man. He was well-spoken and polite and I actually like his product. I'd use it.

[@foamyone101]

Terry Silver You were unnecessarily rude to Daniel Larusso. How do you look at yourself in the mirror at night? I hope you’ve had time to think about your actions. Though to be fair Daniel is the bad guy - get him a body bag, yeah!

[@netweed09]

And keep re-using it 500x times? Erghhh

[@barney3983]

Not for £4.99 rip off

[@yourarseismine1016]

@@netweed09 There's this thing called 'washing' and 'the dishes'.

[@richardosman469]

ngl, ive noticed that theyre rude to almost all of the people, even when the business idea goes on to be incredible

[@claytonmurray218]

Duncan doesn’t like the idea of gym members getting free water when he can sell them bottled water.

[@Rleatfitness]

Lol so true

[@TravelWithBradley]

Every gym goer takes a sports bottle and fills it for free. . .

[@Lloydy0105]

In the UK yes. But Ive been to belgium, I’ve used 3 gyms and none them had free fountains. I was quite shocked.. I’d have thought you’d have to have free water in a place like that. If nothing more than health and safety reasons

[@TravelWithBradley]

@@Lloydy0105 Well I never. Crazy indeed.

[@claytonmurray218]

BobbyRice2 I agree, they should. Unfortunately there are many gyms (Planet Fitness 😂) that sell bottled water still.

[@Matt20264]

“You’ve got five sophisticated investors here… who don’t want to be treated like idiots…” well that’s funny because they certainly acted like idiots here

[@finngreed8514]

That’s so weird as I saw this comment he started saying it wtf 😂

[@MrEdbob98]

FinnFoo me too 👍

[@geneherrmann388]

FinnFoo woahsame

[@LostMysto]

@@finngreed8514 lol dude wtf same

[@clarenceboddicker6679]

@@MrEdbob98 me three

[@calvinnguyen1870]

How is a reusable water bottle that fits in your pocket more “cumbersome” than an entire sports bottle in a sports bag?

[@Grempington]

@Nobody asked

[@aykb4thafame220]

@@Grempington 😂🤣

[@godlikesnake8909]

Because its in a bag on your back not in your pocket

[@kingslayerx1716]

@Nobody asked

[@tomcooper6108]

Because it's much smaller. Durrrrr.

[@tescomobile662]

“You’ve got five sophisticated investors here” *investor throws bottle at him*

[@netweed09]

*Tesco Worker makes Cosmic Bwain YT comment attempting to belittle Dragons*

[@shutupqueer3090]

09? as in 2009? as in your birth date?

[@OlviMasta77]

oogaah boogah

[@meenakshisaxena5214]

Hahahaha

[@withgoddess1119]

😂

[@elliezrimec2029]

They’re acting like reusable water bottles aren’t a thing???

[@natalias.1561]

Maybe they weren't back then, or, to be more precise, they were a thing only in gyms

[@stephhhie17]

Yeah I don't know when this episode was filmed but like... way to completely fail to see that absolutely taking off, lol. What's funny is there's another ep where a guy basically reinvents the water fountain and also sold reusable bottles (that one actually wasn't a great idea IMO) and the dragons are like "You can buy a reusable bottle everywhere!"

[@keshlalish5586]

i think the worst part is them saying ''but i can refill the commercial water bottle'', sure, but you can'T clean it efficiently as any other reusable water bottle. every summer i drink 1.5 to 2 liter of water daily at work, i used to buy them at the store for 1,5$ each. i bought a nalgene for 40$ that goes in the dishwasher. another thing you will notice after reusing a dirty bottle for more than a week, intestine trouble. his idea i a great one. maybe it was not pitched properly to them, i would have focused on washable bottle and taking little to no space. but 5quids for a small reusable bottle like that, it's a good price. perfect for kids or just to keep in the car justi n case

[@whispercars306]

@@keshlalish5586 I find bottled water tastes better than tap water. You can buy a 6 pack of 1.5 litre bottles evian for 3-4 chf in Switzerland. Its so cheap and convenient basically in any grocery store.

[@keshlalish5586]

@@whispercars306 have you tried aerating your tap water ? i let mine sit when it taste bad (chlorine) but i usually refill it at work in the big water machine

[@snappytom8818]

I wouldn’t be surprised if these “dragons” were in the bottled water business, with the reactions shown.

[@ljgarrison6910]

Yeah man

[@ackshayshukla]

Peter is.

[@atari_k1]

Yea that's what I was thinking. But I also think the frustration came from the product simply not penetrating the plastic bottle market. And just like one of them said about convenience, its kind of a worse product in that regard.

[@ramboalpha6915]

@@jesusisking8502 everything they could to bottle it more like 😉

[@kwhall]

That was my first thought.

[@wy4553]

The dragons were way too mean to this guy. He was so well-spoken and respectful. I don't think his product was nearly as bad as they made it out to be. And honestly, people who are conscious of the environment ARE willing to spend much more money for re-usable and convenient products. If Richard was here, he would've been much more respectful and would've actually gave constructive advice that the entrepreneur can work off of.

[@666Raichu]

They DEFINITELY have big stocks in Nestle or something, they got super threatened and are defending the bullshit they're heavily invested in.

[@eliteteamkiller319]

But he wasted their valuable, eternally lost time.

[@jsequine927]

Totally agree, he was professional, very respectful and identified a fix for big problem, even if it's not a great looking product and has holes. The rudest I've seen them all to a nice guy that did literally nothing to deserve that response other than designing a product they didn't like.

[@stephenmontgomery8530]

I think his valuation had something to do with it, James Caan could not wait to get out.

[@skipperdelcara5910]

@@stephenmontgomery8530 yeah he went in too soon, he should have had more turnover before going on the show. The other dragons definitely had some sort of conflict of interest going on judging by how emotional they got

[@lukehelsel4496]

Sounds like the dragons have millions invested in the water bottle business

[@dannynikos1102]

You got it so right !!!!

[@annelyceyawingu6678]

So True!

[@pongchannel.]

True tough

[@zidrockTV]

100% true

[@abhimanyusammysharma1813]

Bang on!!!

[@YTho-ev1ej]

Don't get the yelling. He seemed like a nice bloke. His idea was reasonable and certainly attractive to many. Most people don't have an issue with regular reusable bottles.

[@richardosman469]

ive noticed this recently, the dragons are rude to almost all poeple that pitch infront of them, even when the business idea is decent and in some cases go on to be successful.

[@jebronlames4559]

at the end of the day this is just a TV show, which means that they need the views

[@RachidBoudjelida]

They don't like the price tag of one million dollar, they want naive inventors that let them take their companies for free, this guy was nice and respectful and the product didn't deserve to be thrown at his face that's very disrespectful

[@paulcarmi8130]

@@RachidBoudjelida replace disrespectful with funny and your comment works.

[@RachidBoudjelida]

@@paulcarmi8130 It does 😂

[@FederationStarShip]

Say what you will about the product. That pitch was excellent, very well spoken and engaging.

[@remobasil]

USS Trekky amazing product too

[@joshsmith7812]

One of the best I've seen

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

And when they started freaking out and shouting him down he kept calm

[@666Raichu]

It's also a great product, they just got defensive and acted like children because this threatens the overpriced bottled water industry and they probably all have big stocks in.

[@kai-loongsong583]

u do realise that what he is pitching is essentially any water bottle

[@gisellemclean1942]

The title should be "Dragons unnecessarily infuriated by reusable water bottle" I dont get why their so angry, and Duncan was soooo disrespectful to throw the guys products on the floor.

[@simonwhitworth4688]

That's because Duncan is an arrogant aggressive scotman

[@claucemicro1080]

He probably was looking for an equally disrespectful reaction but when he didn’t get one, he seemed like a fool.

[@redkingwyn6221]

@@simonwhitworth4688 nothing to do with him being Scottish but I don’t like the way he acted.

[@TheBlueCream]

maybe hes drunk

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

@@TheBlueCream maybe he invested in some water bottle companies. He probably thought this guy was competition

[@princey_06]

Imagine being angry to a nice guy trying to reduce littering

[@priscilalondon]

Sounds about right in the money is king world. People have been killed for asking to be treated as humans.

[@mpumelelobeyers957]

I mean...

[@steveande6560]

I'd invest. love it!

[@pongchannel.]

Imagine acting like the reusable bottle market isnt a thing

[@Ronakvevo]

Has he forgot that you can put that blue bottle in a gym bag?

[@nocontent1238]

The "I'm not investing because you need to use the bottle 3 times to break even" is really dumb because who is gonna buy a reusable bottle and use it less than 3 times?

[@Mary-lr5ok]

I know right like what

[@BillyViBritannia]

My thoughts initially. Her point however was that this "3" actually means "3 times as much" since many people dont actually use single-use bottles only once.

[@pongchannel.]

@@BillyViBritannia I tought everyone used single use bottles once well not everyone but the majority I rarely ever even use bottles but the plastic ones I rarely use more than once

[@Ronakvevo]

I will refill my bottle 3 times in one day so this guy would break even within 24 hours

[@mspaceselectrical3652]

@@pongchannel. I reuse one for at least a week. I’m happy to drink tap water at work so I’ll buy a 1L bottle on Monday and reuse it all week. The 90p a day adds up after a while. Still wouldn’t buy this product though

[@yoloswaggins1579]

Peter Jones: It doesn't cure cancer though, does it? Guy: Well no. Peter Jones: See? I'm out.

[@forgiversb5901]

Yolo Swaggins 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@f4fphantomii468]

Your pfp. Yo wtf is that

[@oaptic-roblox4785]

Bf 109 F2 ye Lmao

[@azka9075]

@@f4fphantomii468 looks like something you will get from googling trypophobia

[@leventyigit2051]

:D :D :D

[@username-yd4xm]

5:50: You have to get the bottle out of your pocket, refill it, drink it, put it back in your pocket A regular water bottle: Find a place that sells water bottles, purchase the water bottle, drink the water, hold the entire water bottle in your hand while your walking, find a trash can, throw the water bottle away.

[@smileyeagle1021]

Or, as happens far too often, find a place that sells water bottles, purchase the water bottle, drink the water, hold the entire water bottle in your hand while walking, throw it on the ground, and walk away.

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

Or, throw away plastic water in bin, even recycling bin, councils pick up the bins, litter gets sorted, and.... All that plastic gets put on a ship and sent to Asia to make it their problem to deal with.

[@farmersmith7057]

Exactly.

[@0xbenedikt]

Or come to Germany, where you should return it to a store and get paid back your deposit

[@redvenomweb]

Duncan had a good point: the most environmentally friendly thing to do is to simply drink directly from a water fountain. I think the primary flaw in this product, which none of the dragons mentioned directly, is that many people who are buying bottled water don't want to drink tap water from a random faucet.

[@OuterSpawn]

It's difficult pitching to millionaires, because they don't know how average people see the world

[@kwanarchive]

Yes, you can see on some product pitches, they're just worried about how they look the their rich friends, rather than how the average person would see things.

[@patrickt873]

I won't invest in it and I am an average person.

[@poolemon9016]

@@patrickt873 It's a successful product though. This video is old.

[@OuterSpawn]

@@patrickt873 fair. It is an average product. But the guy is now a millionaire because his product worked and was competitive and made sense

[@patrickt873]

@@poolemon9016 good for him.

[@ravindrajain4631]

You can say a clear no , instead being an angry old man who lost his cool before loosing 💰

[@TrumpyJake]

Ravindra Jain no there obviously has to be a reason on why it's bad the whole show would be pointless if they just went on and said no dumbass

[@anakinjmanu]

@@TrumpyJake stop arguing for the sake of it people its drama unnecessary for a business show geez

[@solongsuicide9]

Losing is spelt with one o. "Loosing" isn't a word.

[@dancourt1196]

constructive criticism can be harsh

[@ZubinB]

That wouldn't be any fun

[@Prodigz93]

"You might as well have a paper cup" ...so...you plan on carrying around a paper cup?

[@Samuel1836]

But that was Duncan’s whole point? as he said that just before he declared himself out. So the whole point was that he wouldn’t invest in in. Because you CANT carry it around like a proper bottle, you need to drink it where you stand (like a paper cup, and as you just said, who would want to carry around a paper cup....) so you kinda made Duncan’s point for him. That being said however, I did think this Gentleman should of been treated far far better than he was. I don’t like his idea, but he was polite, eloquent, patient and certainly didn’t deserve to be torn apart the way he was here. Just my opinion there, maybe it’s a great idea, and fair play to him if he does well, he seems decent. just not my cup of tea. (Or bottle of water, for that matter)

[@Vicketoma]

@@Samuel1836 Why wouldn't you be able to carry it around like a proper bottle? It's literally just a normal bottle that's easier to store when empty. You can still close it and carry it around with water in it.

[@Samuel1836]

Vicketoma Yes ofcourse you could do that, but that would take up the same space of a regular bottle, which is the whole point of this invention (and the multi use issue, which only affects disposable plastic bottles) the whole point is to not be carrying a bottle around like a regular sports bottle. Even if you bring it to the gym and only use it there (as Duncan pointed out) you would have a bag with you, so the compact feature wouldn’t really come into it, as you may as well just put a normal bottle in your bag. I mean I’m sure there will be people who purchase and use it, and I wish the inventor every success, he seems a nice man. I was just explaining why Duncan made the paper cup analogy. Not sure if this Gentleman is still in business, but I’m sure he has come up with lots of neat other products in the mean time. Hope he does well and becomes successful (for any of his products), even if it’s not my cup of tea. 😊

[@astroboy3002]

A folded up paper cup dude

[@methanesulfonic]

Not sure if paper cup is safe on multiple use after you fold and unfold it though

[@visi9856]

I am from a third world country. I would definitely buy this. These people are nuts

[@666Raichu]

They are probably just invested heavily in Nestle and the other evils of the bottled water industry. They were on the defense hard.

[@LHyoutube]

@@666Raichu - Sorry, but you have gone through and made this same kind of Nestle comment on a bunch of threads here. You seem far more emotionally invested in an anti-Nestle agenda than the Dragons would be financially invested in the company itself! 😂

[@Axiarus]

@@LHyoutubeWell... Nestle IS a terrible company.

[@LHyoutube]

@@Axiarus - My response was to a specific comment, that has long since been removed (presumably by KZbin) some time in the previous two years. So I can't really comment further without knowing what that comment was, and I've certainly forgotten by now.

[@johnnyconnelly5706]

The hostility to this polite guy seemed disproportionate and bullying.

[@Jamie-2004]

@Jizz Demona lol, what's your problem? 🤣

[@dontuse10]

@Jizz Demona ???

[@netweed09]

@@Jamie-2004 He's correct. What's the matter with you? The OP is acting like a Drama Queen with his snowflake comment. It wasn't a good idea then, cashing in and during this Virus it's even worse. Anyway, what will your upvoting and typing do here, it won't save that guy's goose, it's already (and rightfully) cooked. Either way, you'll just have to get real and accept his failure here

[@Jamie-2004]

@@netweed09 I have no idea what you're talking about... Btw, this isn't reddit...

[@varun47]

This show is so weird compared to Shark Tank.

[@lisashears1399]

Bless this guy he's so polite and calm he's more professional than the dragons

[@wogboi6588]

Lisa Shears it’s been going pretty successfull

[@veorgegincent8926]

He is a family friend so gave us a bunch of them but then I heard he went on dragons den so I assumed they invested because it's eco friendly and really good then I was told he didn't get an investment, I didn't expect them to be this rude.

[@chickenperson7568]

Veorge Gincent Your not a relative, and they aren’t rude they have to make money, sympathising is not how to do that.

[@dusancetkovic8245]

Yup, this is why i watch shark tank

[@_IcyCube_]

The reasons the dragons are so rough and honestly, is because those are the traits that lead to success in business. Someone who's soft and polite (no offense to him) are less successful, because they are easy to walk over, and manipulate by people are more controlling. This has absolutely nothing to do with this episode, and isn't an attack on guy, I'm just explaining the dragon's behavior.

[@arvind8640]

I was so infuriated to see how they treated this guy who just wanted to reduce litter and plastic bottle waste. Especially Duncan who threw his product across the room. Completely disrespectful. Glad to see he is doing fine and his company is now worth significantly more than what he valued it at.

[@antonydandrea]

He was adding it to the pile of bottles on the floor

[@extremearron]

You do realize you can buy much better refillable 750ml water bottles from practicly anywhere, Not some rip-off of the old dog flat pack travel bowl. Also btw, the bottles where they last for '9 years', is based on a person drinking 1.5 litres per day (around 3 plastic bottles), so basically in around 5 years there's gonna be a massive plastic dump of these bottles. (5 years because this episode was released 4 years ago)

[@gaaraxnaru]

​@extremearron The clip was released 4 years ago, the episode is probably much older. Duncan's been gone from the den for awhile.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

He's not reducing waste. It's greenwashing.

[@markb1262]

They were more respectful to a pyramid scheme than an eco activist. Wow.

[@skillful101]

he aint no eco activist, thats just the pitch. There is zero proof that this product is more eco friendly. It is made of plastic, a lot more plastic than the average bottle. There are plenty of reusable water bottles that arent made of plastic in the market. As Theo said its down to convenience even if people have reusable bottles they will still buy bottled water.

[@Steve3lack]

Khal Drogo ofc there is proof.. u can look up the numbers for energy consumption CO2 emission and all that for a very established process like extruding plastic. He said in his pitch that after three uses it's already more environment friendly than a normal single use plastic bottle. It's not about changing the world overnight, but using reusable bottles will lead to reducing the single use water containers. To me that seams very reasonable. Also, do you really think that other food grade materials besides plastic are more environment friendly? How do you arrive at that conclusion?

[@Blitzkit]

Nah he just wants to get profits from it this "eco activist" or what they call him Like peter said, it would never be a hindrance to the bottled waters market why? Because they're too big, and still a reliable source on emergency purposes.

[@rfox2163]

I don't care about the environment tbh

[@sixtycats8652]

@@rfox2163 Of course an entitled brat like you wouldn't care. Your mind is full of useless information. I hope you grow up and live life outside of a screen so you understand how important it is we care for this object that gave us LIFE.

[@JimmyIsTheBest1]

Why were the dragons so angry with a polite man trying to reduce plastic waste with an original idea!?

[@gloryoguegbu]

I wonder too

[@sweggieboi4928]

They had a bad day

[@makalejdo2]

UK rich people are just snobs.

[@richardschlange9629]

It's likely it harmed a business they were probably all invested in. As someone said above they probably had some involvement with the bottled water market so they probably get alot of dividends from bottled watered companies or other companies that manufacture reusable bottles. They saw him as a threat that's why the overreacted.

[@MichikoHoshi]

The guy is nice and he has good intention, but it is a terrible product to invest him. He tries to differentiate himself from other reusable bottle by the fact his could be collapsed and fit into a pocket. But really, does that add value to the product? In my opinion, I don't think so for very much the same reason one of them mentioned. When you are at a water fountain, why not just drink directly from the fountain as the device is intended to be used. When it contain water, it isn't exactly "Fit in your pocket" anymore than any other reusable water bottle. I feel bad for the man being ridiculed, but there doesn't have to be an ulterior motive to think the idea just doesn't cut really cut it. It sells and will generate profit, but it isn't something that will realistically grow to be more than what he is asking for.

[@Johnny-xj5qu]

“This is not a replacement for that, is it”.... Actually yes, for some people it is. Also, throwing the bottle at him is beyond disrespectful.

[@spiritualfreedom5372]

Life is trippy isn't it, citrus

[@lepetitchat123]

It just shows these dragons are living in a completely different world. A privileged bubble

[@cammy649]

I mean they kinda had a point though. There's a bunch of reuseable water bottles as it already stands. Another reuseable water bottle isn't really going to put a dent into the waste and the making plastic bottle. Sure you may see 1%-5% decrease in the sales and waste of plastic water bottles. Also that bottle is going to be probably 5$ or so and it seems kinda like a pain for actual use in everyday life, might as well just get a different water bottle that holds more for the same price if not a bit more. I can kinda understand why the dragons acted the way they did. But throwing the bottle at him was in fact disrespectful

[@PortlandMan]

I missed the part where the bottles were thrown

[@MrTsar-ui8eh]

Honestly, they act like spoiled brats.

[@brandonstevens5628]

As someone who drinks a lot of water and is active I think this is genius, I buy several of these. Dragons were way too harsh on this guy

[@666Raichu]

Nestle shareholders probably, only way to explain it

[@KaziKami]

You only need one thats the point

[@mrflynn1205]

How is that bottle going to collapse when it’s filled up ?

[@champagnerose999]

Exactly

[@TheArsenal21]

@@mrflynn1205 It wont obviously

[@Crazy56U]

"You've got five sophisticated investors here who don't want to be treated like idiots." (proceeds to act like rude idiots)

[@MrParagonical]

I think a collapsible refillable water bottle is a pretty reasonable idea.

[@Thejigholeman]

Reasonable, but more of a gimmick than anything else.

[@magsteel9891]

thefluff it is, but it's not new. Camping shops sell them.

[@LOCKEYJ]

Its a fine idea but it’s been around over 30 years. I had one as a kid

[@Akovor_]

They're available in 16 countries and he's sold 100,000

[@musicoldies83]

It's a bad idea with no viable advantages over the conventional bottle market. Not only are you wasting time & effort collapsing & then re-enlarging this bottle, like that one dragon pointed out, but what wasn't even mentioned was that you are also subjecting the plastic material comprising this product to cracking by constantly opening & closing it. What also wasn't mentioned was that a large majority of conventional water bottles do get recycled. With that stated, I will agree with some of the other commenters on here that the dragons could have acted a little more professionally & respectful towards the entrepreneur, rather than just responding to him with a condescending attitude.

[@whatno9977]

Conspiracy: All these dragons got a market share in the water bottle industry

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

100%

[@z_ed]

It's not this dude's invention. At this point so many entrepreneurs try to pitch the same product, this same style eco bottle. It's like near mlm levels at this point with these reusable, compressible bottles 🙄 that's why they were annoyed...

[@thisxgreatxdecay]

@@z_ed Except none of them cited that as a reason. The only reasons they cited were ones that were easily dismissable.

[@sozeytozey]

Of course

[@sozeytozey]

@@thisxgreatxdecay Obviously

[@benmoummadsalma9568]

What’s wrong with these people, he was so polite and they just were mad for nothing, even his pitch was perfect 👌🏻

[@SG-pb5v]

Although his pitch was good, the product was not really usable to store water in a portable way. it is not an alternative for a bottle at all, it is an alternative for a glass, or a mug. But he tried to pitch in relation to the plastic bottle market, which is why most of the dragons got infuriated in my opinion. ( Except the muslim guy, who had his problem with the valuation )

[@joevictor53]

Proof that rich people don't care about the environment and will do anything to put down people that try to do something about it. These people just care about making money and the fact that this guy wanted to make money and do something good meant he was worse than the devil to them

[@raphaeldesousaa]

He evaluated the business at a million for making 700 😂

[@matthewwilliams3827]

It’s like he struck a nerve, they guilty of something…

[@uqs57bju]

@@joevictor53 You are reading so much into those tea-leaves. They are talking about it's actual functionality being very poor compared to a normal bottle. It has absolutely nothing to do with whatever you are going on about.

[@kezia8835]

The dragons seem so arrogant here. This man was professional and polite.

[@dislike_button33]

@Gunner Storm Look him up. He's making bank being a success.

[@python1972]

@@dislike_button33 Yeah he is now. Because he took what they said and adapted on it

[@lepetitchat123]

Yeah what did the poor guy do? These dragons are disgusting

[@wumboIogist]

@@lepetitchat123 the guy tried to be a environmentalist to get the pitch, rewatch so you'll get their point.

[@CheckDisOutpeeps]

That's why it's called Dragon Den.

[@ShreeNation]

Not gonna lie, I'd buy that collapsible bottle.

[@TenguTalks]

he should bring it to the States. Americans love tchochkes like this, and would probably buy them just to show off.

[@basicboiii9787]

He became successful, look it up

[@liamwalton4183]

How long ago was this episode? I swear I've seen things like this for years. Obviously not a popular thing but i've seen it on shelves in like pound shops type places

[@four-twenty4205]

@@liamwalton4183 - Pound shops 😂

[@liamwalton4183]

@@four-twenty4205 Here in Spain they're "Chinese shops" Indepentant shops always run by chinese people, with cheap bad quality products. But they'll always have that weird one thing you need. I thought a pound shop might be the equivalent in the UK, not sure. But you know, just cheap shitty places you go to buy a present for a birthdayparty of someone you dislike

[@ProphetOfGaster]

Guy: Hi. Here's a cool bottle. Dragons: BuT iT dOeSnT cUrE CaNcEr

[@veorgegincent8926]

@Insomnia Blaze you don't understand sarcasm do you

[@Squissle]

Insomnia Blaze r/whoooosh

[@veorgegincent8926]

@Please Refer To Other Acount wow

[@tahzibsafwan1028]

@Insomnia Blaze damn why are you so bitter? Are u an investor in a bottle water company or are u having a bad day?

[@netweed09]

Why is everyone selling out and stanning for this bottling fraud on here? Must be all kids; this guy a straightforward fraud so much that not even one Dragon dared to even pause for a thought about an offer on. Stop the simping, simpletons!

[@fayemaka3037]

less than a minute into this pitch I was ready to buy the product. These dragons need to relearn the market of the average consumer cuz this idea is brilliant.

[@ses694]

There was nothing wrong with the idea, they were annoyed that he misrepresented it. He made it out to be less niche than it actually is.

[@blackbullet4254]

Nothing brilliant about this crap lol

[@Haha-if9qf]

Nope i don't like the product you are buying an upgraded water bottle with no water in it. You have to fill it not every country have clean water everywhere

[@pierreo33]

@@Haha-if9qf The company is now worth £5 million lol

[@louisfoster4787]

They hate it when the person pitching actually knows what they're on about

[@mkuroglu]

exactly because there they understand they cant prey on him

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

7:55 "you honestly believe that people go around with this in their pocket looking in their busy schedule for somewhere to fill this in" - well, that's basically like any bottle that's not the disposable one isn't it?

[@LFXGaming]

Theo clearly has someone on standby with a water bottle at all times so he doesnt need to put a dent in his 'busy schedule' 😂

[@icommentalots]

9:35 literally drinking out of a cup that needs to be refilled

[@pinkkfloydd]

Then it ain't gonna replace the reusable bottle industry to begin with. You didn't solve any problem.

[@GrantGryczan]

No, you refill a normal reusable water bottle at home before you leave. You don't often have to go looking for somewhere to refill it. This product, on the other hand, is only more useful than your average reusable bottle if it's empty when you leave (since it's not compact if it's not empty).

[@kelvinmathew8993]

these clickbait headlines are getting more creative. I thought Peter would throw the bottle at the entrepreneur face. It was actually Duncan and also it was thrown on the pile of other bottles. I feel violated.

[@theplugdior5662]

Kelvin Mathew 😂😂😂😂

[@adamthomas4280]

I'm out.

[@slobodanreka1088]

"Dragon slashes throat of entrepreneur and dances on his corpse" **Dragon says "I'm out."

[@REVVINGRODNEY]

Ha ha Brilliant 😂😂

[@creatorbydefault]

Violation noted. BBC your response? lol

[@JeePsSsS]

The valuation of £1,000,000 was considered "beyond ridiculous" by the dragons, but according to an article it is now worth £5,000,000. Not the greatest judgment there 😂. Not to mention the clear bullying of someone who was nice, confident, looked professional, and with a good product in my opinion !

[@everythingbuzzcityEBC]

Damn.

[@Phoenix1664]

It might be worth that now, but it certainly wasn't worth that back then. His valuation is outlandish. Even though he's successful now, he was way too much of a risk back then. £1,000,000 valuation off the back of 340 sales and £700 turnover. SMH.

[@Annieareyouokayshamone]

​@@Phoenix1664They were still wrong.

[@A-ii5dp]

@@Phoenix1664 That's the point of entrepreneurs seeking investment though... with £700 turnover a dragon could have invested £7000 and had 90% of the 'real' valuation at the time. He valued at 1 mill, and the only way it was 'outlandish' is that he actually ended up worth 5 mill lol.

[@Thijs-Kuiken]

​@@Phoenix1664 perhaps so.. but isn't the charm of this program also to know - in hindsight - to what degree the dragon's foresight on how a product might fare, is correct or false? 😀 When it turns out to be a fact that the product did much much much better than the dragons cared to give credit for at the time, the joke is on them; I think the reason why people are keen to point that out with glee, is because vitriol, disdain and contempt are always very close to the surface in the way the dragons communicate rejection. Sure.. it might be a scripted part of a tv formula .. but nonetheless.

[@MyNameIsOclock]

"the shell shocked entrepeneur" cuts to the entrepeneur and the guy couldn't be more calm

[@666Raichu]

This whole room and network has to be basically owned by Nestle or something

[@leongargan6024]

Dragon's were unnecessarily rude on this one. Feel sorry for the guy.

[@jadex9733]

Leon Gargan you mean you feel sorry for ‘guy’ Haha get it...no...just me...okay

[@paulcarmi8130]

Debra has it right. Polite and concise.

[@redoz1201]

Jeez, was it really necessary to get so pissed off at a guy trying to start a reusable drink bottle business?

[@timemasterhms]

It's a flexible plastic that will require replacement because it will crack in the folds. It's a poor design, so he's just adding to the plastic waste that he thinks he's solving. Sure, you may get returning customers but if he truly cares about one time use plastic bottles, he needs to improve the design so it's not just incrementally better than the other bottles.

[@electronicsandradio3945]

@@timemasterhms he said how long it would last, so cracking is clearly not a problem unless you have tested one and it has cracked.

[@tobiastames5224]

@@timemasterhms Did you miss the part where he mentions it was stress tested by one of those machines and it lasts 9 years?

[@timemasterhms]

@@tobiastames5224 Lab stress tests and real life use are very different. Everyone agrees that there's too many plastic bottles being used, but adding another isn't the solution.

[@daarzoo___]

@@timemasterhms He said the bottle was able to last for 9 years

[@anthonysmith6413]

When I was in the army we made this kind of bottle all the time. Drank from a regular water bottle and as it emptys squeez it together to later refill it again. The small formfactor of a almost flat bottle was very handy and of course easy refillable. Sadly there are still no 1,5-2L variants of it would buy it in and instant.

[@adelebrown1861]

This was really unprofessional for the dragons, lost my respect.

[@bigbigbigbigbigman]

@Voltanary They're not actors they're actual entrepreneurs. You can easily look up their names and business ventures. How do you not know this?

[@sparky7523]

@@bigbigbigbigbigman Your statement makes no sense towards the comment. The fact that they are actual professionals is what makes all of this so bad.

[@user-fh1rd6uq9o]

@a business is business bro, if you need therapy go work at mcdonalds or something

[@ff-qc7qy]

@@user-fh1rd6uq9o but you can criticize without having to be rude you know

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

@@ff-qc7qy The entrepreneurs could come in with valuations that were mathematically backed up as well, but they continue to not. If entrepreneurs want professionalism, they should have professionalism as well. The dragons do behave professionally whenever the pitch is.

[@chloestokes2652]

i just wanna give him a hug🥺he’s so sweet and the dragons were so unnecessarily rude to him

[@Governor2310]

Don’t worry. His ideas done really well, it’s being sold in multiple countries and he has a distribution deal with Marks and Spencer’s

[@AverageHandle_]

@@Governor2310 I believe it’s 16 countries

[@Governor2310]

@@AverageHandle_ yeah I think it was around about that

[@gruphenio6787]

They usually are...their behaviour is arrogantly repugnant at the best of times - esp that Debby bint...

[@AverageHandle_]

@@gruphenio6787 Debra seems like the type of person to go ballistic if she tastes a grain more sugar than what she asked for

[@naruto00nix]

calling him shell shocked, while in reality mr. jeremiah never once seems to be impressed with the dragons opinion or trembles at all even when rudely insulted. this guy was confident in his product all the way, while the dragons made a fool of themselves, showing how out of touch they are.

[@nachgemacht_975]

Maybe they were once a "dragon" but currently all of them pay some "market analytics" to tell them the story of the "where to invest next" because they cant keep up with the internet, kickstarter, social media or smartphones... and thats why this guy sells his 100k bottles in 16 countrys...

[@ismayb754]

The narrator of this show is a joke, I've lost count of the number of times his "description" of what's just happened in no way reflects what just happened. Dragon: I like the idea but I'm not sure this product is for me. Inventor: Ok, sure, no problem. Narrator: "The inventor is a stunned into an emotional silence by the dragon's harsh opinion!!!!"

[@kylecreed2748]

Because he’s a psychopath.

[@GreenVenus]

I've been binging these videos all day, and honestly he's had the most composed and demonstrative pitch I've seen yet!

[@hvssan]

6:23 is the part you're looking for

[@bertvsrob]

mvp

[@SiL3nTPsYcO]

Didnt even throw it at him

[@2001-j5r]

Hassan 😂😂thanks mate

[@mr.t.1237]

Stfu

[@MrBeard17]

da fuq ? All he did was toss the bottle onto the floor with the others.

[@GarisonC]

Just went online and bought one of his bottles. The “dragons” are off their rockers on this one, it’s a great product! At least he got the free publicity (why I think he actually went on) and sold at least one more bottle to me.

[@darthforexvader7201]

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[@Ollie-lz5hr]

Garison Carrell I believe they all have shares in bottled watered companies

[@Windxchild]

And to me! Been looking for something like this for a while...

[@azaleaacevedo5124]

I was sure I’ve seen these before. I only clicked because I thought they were angry he stole an existing idea, but apparently it’s the original. They definitely misjudged these.

[@darthforexvader7201]

@@azaleaacevedo5124 tap the Click bait 😂😂

[@SpeedHomeAttack]

They're acting like his bottle requires a passcode, wifi, a battery, etc. When all it requires is you to open and close it. If people have a reusable bottle then they wont need to buy water bottles, causing them to create a dent in that market. Is it too inconvenient to fill up your own bottle with water? These millionaires are so damn dramatic, they are so far removed from the real world that they think its it's crazy.

[@DocBree13]

SpeedHomeAttack exactly - just because they won’t eliminate the bottled water market, a decrease in that market is still a good thing and can be profitable

[@citizen8491]

He is causing a dent to the millionaires pockets with his bottle..🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisklinglmayr5570]

they wouldn't be millionaires if they were so far from the real world they just know what works unlike this guy who's a complete joke and this comment section.. And his bottle sucks

[@mariamtahir2183]

I think these dragons supply plastic or in trade with plastic suppliers so this idea insecure them

[@alexhermawans]

@@mariamtahir2183 I aggre with you

[@willparker302]

It’s so cool to see that this guy went on to be really successful

[@franklopez5263]

This is the first time I've called the dragons idiots for not seeing how good this product is. I would buy one and use it every day.

[@Coolmumsclub]

F Lopez I have 2 for the kids I recommend getting one. They can fold up and go in your gym bag and doesn’t add weight,fill it up and it is also a bottle not just a cup. And environmentally friendly.

[@ISCDesignArchitect]

agree

[@romanefimov7544]

It helps nothing. Its plastic the same as the bottles. Its reusable the same as regular bottles...

[@ISCDesignArchitect]

@@romanefimov7544 I disagree; the simple fact that it is NOT thrown away immediately improves the carbon footprint. It is a truly sustainable model.

[@jameschadwick7692]

F Lopez blue pilled

[@Voicist]

Duncan got angry because he's obnoxious Theo got angry because he saw Duncan doing it

[@ButterflySimmer]

Ikr I hate Duncan. So glad dragon den got rid of him.

[@Ramsez]

@@ButterflySimmer Why? It hink he's great

[@ButterflySimmer]

@@Ramsez he just seem rude most often.

[@BeridotSegas]

I guess you could say that.

[@megabowzer100]

Nah im pretty certain theo followed peter like they all do..if peter doesnt like something,the rest follow suit and rightly so.he knows what hes talking about

[@thandiebbz1]

The way they were so rude to him and he’s so calm makes me want to buy one

[@yareugae638]

yeah the idea sucks but I felt sad for the guy

[@thomasmees3953]

@@yareugae638 it doesn’t even suck

[@666Raichu]

They're absolutely invested in Nestle or something.

[@masongotmounted1247]

@@yareugae638 I think the business is actually doing quite well now

[@RG_Eph]

Yes me too! He’s so nice and their comments are so idiotic it makes my head hurt. They’re so snobby and it’s beyond pathetic to treat this gentleman with such aggression. Shame on them!

[@KerzacTransformed]

The dragons were completely off their rockers with this one. I work in warehouses and I would use this all the time cuz its easy to lose track of your bottle when its empty

[@WhateverWhenever888]

Wouldn’t it be easy to lose this because of how small it is?…

[@johnathanfoster8213]

These dragons don’t realize that many young people, and older people too I assume, literally carry a water bottle with them everyday and everywhere they go, whether to school, work, or the gym. I also don’t understand how Peter sees this as misleading because it literally is an alternative to bottled water like how can’t he see this. He’s Right, it would not eradicate the entire bottled water market but it definitely will cut into. Normally, you can see the dragons expertise in these videos but in this one, they clearly know nothing.

[@jayaz9113]

Johnathan Foster very well said !! They no nothing. And they were really pretentious too.

[@josevictorfranchi9333]

I think the main issue was the evaluation of 1Mi while he hadn't got any number on sales ...I watched too many good pitches in TV shows lose opportunities just cause of extratosferical valuations

[@redholm]

@@josevictorfranchi9333 Also how his pitch ended up rubbing them the wrong way. And honestly. It's not exactly new. I remember having one of those foldable water bottles when I was a kid. And I doubt this was filmed in the 90s.

[@theseriousaccount]

But what if your exclusive “health club” for billionaires already have bottled water? Checkmate!

[@josevictorfranchi9333]

@@redholm I remember having 1 too, lower quality than his but still the same ideia of foldable water bottle when I was a kid

[@ivarbaratheon264]

The dragons are actually a bunch of knobs

[@teenindustry]

Ivar Baratheon right? David Mitchell once paid dragons den out for being ridiculous and not behaving like normal people! In this case he is also wrong it is becoming popular to take a water bottle over plastic

[@ivarbaratheon264]

@@teenindustry yes they're stuck up morons. Acting like taking 5 seconds of their time to unfold the bottle is too inconvenient for them

[@dancourt1196]

maybe just honest constructive criticism can be harsh .......................... (ps its a show they need drama for views) stop crying ever watch simon cowell destroy people on xfactor? same thing

[@itsbigzach2844]

What would you expect, they're business folk. I'm sure they're chill in their personal life.

[@jacksonirving4594]

They're just playing too the camera.

[@alec6583]

"You REALLY THINK people, with their busy schedules, are going to take this bottle and look for somewhere to fill it? Instead of buying a convenient, delicious, refreshing bottle of Deer Park All Natural 100% Spring Water?"

[@courier6960]

Lmao, “and if you buy some Deer park water today, my stock portfolio will increase its profit margin by over 10 percent!”

[@alec6583]

@@courier6960 PRETTY MUCH!

[@420guidedogs7]

@@alec6583 Giving someone tired or short of breath some water is like one of the most basic obvious things you do though, you shouldn't even have to pay for that if you're working there, and those plastic bottles don't seem so appealing once you see enough sludge microplastic wasteland we've made.

[@amityrro]

@LaBapeKing honest question, would you not have a bag with you to keep, say, a steel reusable bottle in? that's my only issue with it, i carry a reusable bottle with me in a bag, but would it being foldable be useful in your circumstances?

[@Nashy119]

@@amityrro I'd definitely something that folds which can go into my pocket or partners handbag, over a big bottle. Just for the usual walking around shopping/city parks/countryside/workplace grounds/getting lunch.

[@sampendlebury3173]

I feel like if this was aired now they’d act differently

[@BabyBaby8794]

@@samwynne8588 it was most certainly not aired this year. As you can see the dragons are all younger on this vid. They've just been posting some of dragons den older episodes on their youth e channel

[@BabyBaby8794]

@@samwynne8588 😂😂easily made mistake. Makes sense

[@wtfisyoutub]

Definitely, especially with all the micro plastic shizz thats going on.

[@calivibes_84]

Video Central I feel like this must be from season one or nothing in life makes sense 😆

[@andy5337]

@@samwynne8588 we are talking about 5 to 10 years ago. It would be different if aired now a days. Complete unfair and harsh to this guy with a great attitude and business pitch

[@someaccount3438]

Crazy. A lot of the times, the dragons are right to be mad at people pitching ridiculous things, but their attitude towards this guy is absolutely rude and uncalled for.

[@Silenciobob]

Why was everyone so angry? I actually think this is a decent idea.

[@shivakumarvjit]

I feel that too, may be they have investment in bottled water business.

[@hiimryan2388]

Silenciobob dude... like you can just use a normal water bottle........

[@petir2008]

He made exaggerated claim like he single handedly is going to save the environment

[@joannamatata1526]

Comrade Ryan Yh but you can store it into your pocket

[@Mmmm1ch43l]

@@petir2008 but he literally didn't do that though? what are you talking about?

[@supercurioTube]

The complete tantrum at 5:49 is as funny as absolutely ridiculous 😂

[@justicewarrior9187]

This is actually a freaking good idea!!! I hate the space an actual bottle occupies! An unlike these millionaires I actually fill my bottle at home or at a WC because I'm not rich to always be buying bottles of water!!

[@vampy8112]

Same i love the idea folding it away and reusing

[@mjaff]

My exact same though! What a bunch of twats..

[@Sophie-wi7wt]

Same I hate carrying a bag and water bottles are too bulky sometimes

[@justicewarrior9187]

@Archock Encanto Filling at home to bring it with me on the street

[@SirCanuckelhead]

@Archock Encanto once you finish that hard bottle you still have to carry it. Collapse is nice. Hikers are very used to carrying as tight as possible and love the environment so I would say it would sell well in that group

[@MoochPlays]

5:50 Really? A “complete waste of time”? It literally takes a second or two to unfold it and compress it.

[@JSmellerM]

So it's a cup with a lid.

[@systematic101]

@@JSmellerM well technically that's what all bottles are.

[@JSmellerM]

@@systematic101 yes, but would you carry that around with you?

[@systematic101]

@@JSmellerM why not? As long as the seal is good it has a use. It's nice that you can fill it up, go for a jog or walk, and then put it in your pocket when you're done. If you get to a fountain you can drink at the found and fill it up. You can't just pop most water bottles into a pocket once they're empty.

[@moomin54321]

Well this aged like milk. I've got three of these bottles in my household haha

[@lewisbrechin1705]

But you dont though.

[@gibbings5534]

maybe he does you have no proof i dont own one but i can see why this person could very easily own three of them

[@Ziziwai]

Lewis Brechin If you know that can you tell me the future 👁👄👁

[@mortechrome]

@@lewisbrechin1705 Quite possible that he actually has. Seen similar products at several retailers. Googled this brand, seems it’s not being sold anymore however.

[@Livingmeerkat68]

@@mortechrome It's on Amazon! Not sure if only on the UK but search "Ohyo" on Amazon

[@AmyTaylorMusic]

How incredibly, unnecessarily rude. And they weren’t “treated like idiots”. In my opinion, he treated them with respect

[@palledenlille]

I'm here because penguinz0 was talking too much

[@deletice]

YES THANK YOU

[@ashutoshpani]

I like penguiz0 's videos. But his discord stream ripped videos are just way too annoying. He talks so damn much over the video that he is clearly trying to show us.

[@sexpeare8947]

@@ashutoshpani exactlyyyy. I luv Charlie so much but in this area he's annoying af

[@MeHaziq]

same haha

[@testname2635]

Hahahaha seriously. I'm here for the same reason.

[@adeeb0704]

“We’ve got five sophisticated investors here” Suurreee mate

[@bingola45]

@Red Cave Born rich?

[@derekfraser7397]

More like "sophisticated irritating idiots".

[@Stu-SB]

His pitch was really smooth, and his manner was impeccable in the face of adversity....anything that cuts down our use of plastic has to be looked at seriously... I couldn't use it only because I drink fizzy water, hope he's successful elsewhere...

[@AndyLowe-net]

you exclusively drink fizzy water?

[@DGTLCLANGAMING]

"Anything that cuts down on plastic use... I only drink fizzy water" so you're a hypocrite then?

[@workcount1381]

As someone who always re-use bottles whether plastic or not, I like this product as its easy to clean.

[@Cbvn2202]

Me: that's a good idea Dragons: it's a terrible idea Me: yeah thats a terrible idea

[@rafe3028]

@@recreationalelmersglue6053 Yeah, but he said his target audiences are kids, sports and something else. Well kids have a bag with them and so do people that going to soccer, the gym etc. that eliminates that audience because they can just put a normal bottle in the bag

[@sirplantain]

Rafe: This reminds me of the 'Schuc' pitch - the target audience for that wasn't right either. I'd buy one of these collapsible bottles for £1 (Poundland would be a great place to stock it) and use it for camping. I find it rather amusing that Guy thinks that shops/cafés/pubs are going to refill the bottles for free (some might however the majority of places aren't going to unless you purchase something). Maybe in London they have loads of places where you can get free drinking water however in smaller cities you aren't going to find free drinking water as easy as you can a shop that sells bottled water.

[@zephergaming4437]

Alex R It was a good can drink the water straight out of a fountain, but you can’t carry the fountain with you 250m down the road for use in thirty minutes times.

[@codywilkinson8344]

Lol yes, relatable

[@fionamelissa2148]

@@rafe3028 d

[@BP9000]

"She will be next to interrogate the shellshocked entrepreneur" Camera pans over to the dude who isn't phased a bit

[@riglowkun]

As a guy that workouts regularly ,this would be pretty dope. This is why I dont trust old people in corporate, they don't like change.

[@xudes11]

Its their money they have at stake. If it does well for a bit but cant progress further because it will not dent the plastic bottle industry, then ofc they wouldn't want to invest in it. Its all about the big picture for these investors and their money.

[@pongchannel.]

9:56 you have to UsE iT a WhOlE tHrEe TiMeS tOuGh

[@amaze2n]

I agree. This is actually a really cool idea for long distance cycling and such. Even for day to day use. Once you finish it you squish it and it takes up little space in your bag. And you can always have compact extras in case you need to store a bunch of water between destinations on a long trip.

[@markfox1545]

Busted as a braindead snowflake - anyone over 30 you call old.

[@causetheplumstasteyum7848]

@@amaze2n It isn't though .. Any long distance cyclist will have a bag with them to carry a drink or a bottle attached to the bike that contains a drink , which are usually bigger than the bottle he has and they have been around for donkeys years , this is nothing more than a gimmick

[@nninabrown]

I feel so bad for him😭 he’s just trying to help reduce litter and they’re literally interrogating him😭

[@cynicaldrummer286]

There are idiots, I would choose that bottle over must reusable one

[@namratakamdar2012]

They were disrespectful and unkind. Borderline unprofessional I’d say

[@ArbitratorTemplar]

Namrata Kamdar Well, they are wealthy, so they think they are *privileged* to treat people like trash.

[@namratakamdar2012]

Macaltror just terrible manners and also would be good to provide Constructive rather than destructive feedback

[@isaactaylor6334]

The guy came in and completely misrepresented the available market, and valued his offering at a completely unreasonable figure. I don't think the disrespect was offside

[@namratakamdar2012]

Isaac Taylor this maybe the case but I suppose they could have been a bit nicer and less nasty

[@ScribblyDave]

It’s the show. They’re obviously assholes on purpose for the ratings. Gotta keep Simon Cowell mode on for the TV company that pays them...

[@garax1548]

He was a few years early with this pitch. Reusable bottles are everywhere now I hope his business is doing good now

[@DragonBallNOW]

I see many bottles like these in Poundland and other retailers they must be doing well

[@kumokundomo9705]

Reading the comments really puts a perspective on the dragons' attitude and actions. I would be infuriated if anyone threw any object towards me. After watching how the product was invented it is sad to see it being thrown but in the end it increased awareness to the product itself. 👏👏👏👏

[@josephmother2659]

No, Peter, it’s not supposed to be a replacement for all bottles, merely an alternative.

[@RavenThePlayer]

“This is not a replacement for that, is it” Stupidest thing I've ever hear a dragon say. Why does he think you need to take 100% of the market?

[@rissi2352]

exactly

[@tonymurphy2624]

That wasn't Peter's point. His point was that the pitch was dishonestly pointing to the ecological impact of the bottled water market and, by pointing out that it's an 80 billion market, that that was what the entrepreneur was tapping into, when in fact he was tapping into a much smaller market. The bottled water market is irrelevant to the conversation except for pointing out that the bottled water market is declining in favour of reusable bottles, which is a secondary point, and the value of that market is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. The target market is the reusable bottle market. Peter was exactly right. It was a red herring. Shoddy logic at best, dishonest at worst.

[@varun47]

This Peter Jones is best kept in the dungeon on this show - he would never become a Shark on Shark Tank - a much more innovative and lively show for entrepreneurs and investors alike.

[@Albimar17]

@@tonymurphy2624 nailed it! Thx for explanations

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

Greed

[@lexyeevee]

the most incredible part of this is that a millionaire is too cheap to buy a reusable water bottle to take to the gym

[@bakersmileyface]

Who said he didn't have a reusable water bottle? His point was that this bottle doesn't bring anything new to the industry. There are already reusable water bottles out there. This one can fold up? So what? If you're going to have water in it when you're bringing it with you, then it folding up is pointless. Then if you do bring it with you so that you can go to a water dispenser to fill it up and then you just want to get rid of the water and fold it up again, there're already plastic cups at water dispensers anyway. So the idea itself just doesn't sound like it improves enough for people to want to get rid of their current water bottles and buy this one. It doesn't solve anything or provide anything that people would want in their daily lives.

[@ebs7411]

That's why he is a millionaire.

[@charliechaori182]

I don't think that was the point.... I've sat there and ripped that product apart allready he's replaced 1 plastic product with another thicker plastic product.... It's not at all environmentally friendly if someone asked me to make a environmental friendly cup I'd start with those paper cones..

[@secular555]

@@bakersmileyface he himself pointed at the single-use bottle and said that's what he uses

[@theninjascientist689]

@@ebs7411 Yup, because millionaires happy will sacrifice the environment for their penny-pinching.

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

Baffled by how using a reusable water more than 3 times is so difficult that it makes it no longer worth it to avoid single use bottles. Reusable products always require more resources to produce than single use products… because they’re *reusable*.

[@ringo11994]

I feel sad for him. They're just trying to make an impression for tv.

[@lolhahah21]

Yeah he shouldn't feel offended. He should remember that they're just acting for TV.

[@davinci6429]

lolhahah21 he now has a successful business. Some call it karma?

[@reneeanagbo]

The first Dragon’s Den episode I have come to be so uncomfortable with. He’s working for the right team! I don’t know why there was so much hysteria. Respect to this man for his perfect composure.

[@otaviooliveira9454]

For the entire video I was like “am I the only one that would actually buy one of those?”

[@lainihurley2425]

No I’ve bought one

[@Harrylechat01]

As soon as I see them on sale I plan to buy one for each member of my family and a couple of friends I go walking with. The more people who openly drink from reusable bottles the more people will copy, the market is exponential and these are not a "waste of time" Duncan, they are bloody brilliant.

[@katelynoreilly6144]

The amount of space this would take up in my hand bag/work bag vs a regular reusable bottle, not to mention the fact I wouldn’t have to carry it I can actually put it in my pocket?! Genius as far as I’m concerned.

[@joshuaferguson698]

Theo: “i’m not gonna buy your water, can you fill that up for me please” Literally every cafe and restaurant offers to fill your bottle of water for you lmfao these boomers ignoring climate change solutions and calling themselves sophisticated investors 😂😭

[@1WEareBUFO1]

I'd be willing to bet you they also think recycling is a 100% sustainable process with no loss of energy or material. If you use a paper cup 3-4 times a day at work and throw it away after ( like 99% of people do without reusing it once), at that rate one individual is going through probably 1000 cups a year. How many people work in one office? The guy suggesting them isn't even considering how much energy goes into making those 1000 cups (of which most places provide styrofoam here over paper) or 300 water bottles.

[@methanesulfonic]

@@1WEareBUFO1 not to mention recycling cost some quite amount of money, thats why US sell the plastics waste to china so they can recycle it cheaply

[@gloryoguegbu]

I really don't like how this guy was treated!

[@frankofthefilth295]

Not being funny but these are just boomers who can’t accept plastic is a problem

[@joepvanheugten8033]

So true. It’s not funny but actually quite sad.

[@immanuelleonwijaya492]

But these kinda product been in market for years now and everyone still uses single use water bottle... i think they are correct when theyr saying these are useless and not problem solving

[@magsteel9891]

Wijaya Leon not useless at all. I'm reminded of the way my kids think a lot of my tools are useless because they are useless to them. Regardless while there is a market for collapsible bottles (just look on amazon or any outdoor store) I don't see anything unique about this one.

[@immanuelleonwijaya492]

@@magsteel9891 so you are saying you use these stuff everyday then?

[@magsteel9891]

Wijaya Leon "use every day" is not the right standard for determining utility. There are very few things I use every day. That doesn't mean they have no utility. I don't use my air conditioning in the winter. I don't use the heat in the summer. I don't use my motorcycles when I need my truck. I use my lawn mower once a week. I have many kitchen appliances used for specific purposes. And so on. Collapsible containers of different types, including bottles, have their applications.

[@farzadaryanrahman2039]

Aight but are we not gonna talk about he wasnt wearing a tie when started walking up the stairs and magically gained one at 0:05

[@UTubeTulip]

I wonder when this aired. That pitch wouldn't have gotten the same response in 2019. That said, anyone coming in in 2019 gets "this market is so saturated, you're so late to the game".

[@HornsoftheStagg]

Now we have glass and steel bottles so a plastic bottle that has to be used three times before it compares to a regular plastic one is still worse than those other alternatives.

[@maxmackinlay618]

The concept took off. There are a lot of competitors in the market now.

[@karenlawler4043]

Thinking exactly the same thing. Maybe he was a little ahead of his time.

[@burhaanahmed5965]

July 2010.

[@johnsmith-wx5fb]

People keep losing these bottle the amount of elegant looking shiny metal bottles i see on the tube system and lots of nice looking plastic ones.

[@quiksilver87]

Here's my cool bottle. I want to promote environmental conservation. Dragons: HOW DARE YOU.

[@destituteanddecadent9106]

Pretty much

[@xbrandon2252]

Um he's contributing to environmental issues because he's creating more plastic...

[@DanDan-eh7ul]

@@xbrandon2252 If one car gets 15 miles to the gallon, and someone makes a newer version that makes slightly more greenhouse gasses during production, but gets 50 miles to the gallon, they have net benefited vs producing more of the original car. As he said, it only takes 3 fills of his bottle before it's used less plastic per use compared to disposable bottles.

[@LAVIN20]

The dragons are the example of why we are killing the earth.

[@xeiton9712]

Bubby_Bear Evil is within human, just as benevolence. Money holds lots of power, and as power corrupts, it’s hard to use money for truthful purposes. That doesn’t make it the source of evil though. The evil is in the people using it.

[@bigdaddy3217]

@Bubby_Bear Love of money is root of all evil.

[@SourceCod33]

The Dragons can make company’s fly, but they can also breathe fire and burn them down in their arrogance

[@bigdaddy3217]

@Bubby_Bear It's just a quote from bible - many people remember it as "money is the root of all evil", but it is as I put it.

[@andreasmelkersson3592]

@Bubby_Bear Greed is. Not money.

[@TwinBladeFury]

None of them asked the most important question: What if I only drink half of it in the first go? Do I have to pour the rest out and go find a tap later?

[@elvickRULES]

Put the lid on it.

[@pable2]

@@elvickRULES Yeah but then, you can't compress it and put it in your pocket

[@0nan-Son-of-Juda-Brother-of-Er]

This Guy They didn't like him because he was too polished Maybe it should be called Asses Den