Drain Plug Was First Suspected, But After A Closer Inspection....

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[@Fishsticks187]

My coworker took his Impreza to a Grease Monkey. They drained his transmission fluid instead of his oil and didn't refill it until it was much too late. The transmission failed a month or so later and he ended up having to replace it out of pocket (of course the shop told him to pound sand). Never go to quick lube places, EVER. They are staffed by people who are unqualified and do not care.

[@stansbruv3169]

PS - many of those uncaring staffers also working at dealerships and at least one local Wendy’s!

[@Savageitright]

It will only drip until out of oil.

[@mikep3509]

Those 15 minute bargain oil change places aren’t always such a bargain. Notorious for causing issues.

[@jthonn]

That is possible, or the owner.

[@DS-ss7vl]

@@jthonn It's junk material. All modern cars and trucks are complete junk.

[@Dan-56]

Impact on the drain plug at the quick lube 👎.

[@petescustomcarshop]

To be completely honest it is most likely Chinese steel, poor manufacturing and cost saving. They make these oil pans with very thin steel and when you combine that with Chinese steel which is brittle, this is the result. I plan to have a drive through service center at my new shop some day where I could possibly do an oil change and complete inspection on vehicles while you drive your car through every 15 to 30 minutes.

[@clems6989]

​@@Dan-56exactly right

[@petescustomcarshop]

If this was my customer and with my knowledge, I would have thumbed up some JB SteelStik and let them go on vacation. No need to drain the oil just mead the stuff with your fingers and rub it on. I use this stuff for similar repairs and it works. Don't believe me? Just ask Dale Jarrett the nascar diver as his oil pan became cracked during a race and the pit crew put some of this stuff on during a pitstop and guess what it sealed it.

[@scottwhitcher265]

Dale Jarrett wasn't depending on his race car to get his family home from 500 miles away.

[@JimSix-jo6hf]

I was thinking the same thing, if it was my car and I needed it for the weekend I would try it, but the way people are these days you should not take on the liability, just order a pan for monday tell them not to drive it

[@InTime-x3j]

I couldnt tell you how many oil changes I have done and I thought I saw it all. Never seen this one before. Im a retired mechanic and I would let customers watch. We were in the deep country and country folks like to watch you work and ask silly questions sometimes. My favorite was always the wrong type of threads on a bolt crammed into the oil drain hole. If I saw a drain bolt crooked in a pan I wouldnt touch the vehicle. I learned the hard way to really look at a drain bolt!!LOLOLOL

[@fueledbymusic3]

I have a 1984 Mercury. Still has the original oil pan. Never ever had problems with oil pans on any car i ever owned. Im 53

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

My 02 Neon that I owned from almost new, had it for 320K miles and 13 years, still had the original pan and plug. It's amazing how some people just don't know the proper way to tighten something

[@scottwhitcher265]

I'm 64, been a mechanic since I could hold a flashlight for Dad. There are a LOT of things car manufacturers should do with a better look to long term maintainability and reliability, but they can't fix stupid.

[@JoseRodriguez-jl5ih]

Hey Kenny just a quick off topic, I deleted my dod with range on 2012 5.3. I was told I can get better fuel pressure with plugging pressure relief valve?

[@bigbill709]

I can only imagine how fast it would drip while running.

[@tobbex7372]

Yep. Now no pressure. Driving, it's a lots of pressure.

[@randyhammett4467]

Hot and cold cycles plus the vibrations you mentioned make it a don't drive and get fixed deal. People don't get the severity or importance of the situation. Listen to the man!!

[@joemuncie9187]

The abuse some cars endure is truly amazing.

[@Toolaholic7]

Leaks are cheaper to fix than an engine replacement.Some do not realize this

[@taurenbukoski1044]

Drain plug looks like it’s missing the aluminum plug gasket

[@gregbarnett3141]

Likely what caused the issue. No crush washer and an overtightened drain plug. I've seen pulled threads and places break the spot welds that hold the nut in place inside of the pan. No reason to ever over torque a drain bolt. Crush washers are one time use also.

[@stanleygreen1527]

I've heard about that Hyundai/ Kia oil pan crack from local mechanics. Apparently, it's not covered under warranty

[@rwtrwt-ju9fk]

Customer is always right even when they are wrong

[@davidgoertzen250]

I have Hyundai Sonata that cracked about an inch behind the drain plug. I believe it is common issue with the Korean cars.

[@ivanhorban340]

I would drain the oil completely, clean the crack and area around it,er and replace the drain plug (cleaned of course). Use a penetrating Locktite on the crack and coat the area with a quick hardening compound. Some thing that can be removed with the application of heat (dual compound silicone, urethane or epoxy). This is meant to be a temporary fix until you can get a new oil pan or repair the existing one. Brazing should do,. At 50K miles I would think it should be covered under the manufacturers

[@andrehoffmann2931]

I guess just guess that the last guy who did an oil change on that used an electric wrench. Those tools have lots of torque. Maybe crack it on the loosen or the fasten. Who knows.

[@ironcross420]

Looks like it was impacted on as you can see ripples following in line with the crack and around clockwise like tearing. Tell customer to hit up the Transit for some RTV.

[@user-my7hv5ld7b]

if it hit something it would torn the guard

[@cailcampbell5890]

And the customer isn't willing to authorize a pan replacement?!

[@82_KID]

HAPPY 4TH MR KENNY!

[@maui6446]

Good catch! Saved them a motor at the minimum and perhaps the entire vehicle! Near that 90 degree bend the steel will be work-hardened.

[@eugeneedens4525]

Back in the early 90s, I had a hotrodded little Pinto, and I was racing home to get something because I was in a time crunch. On the way home, I had to pass over a double set of railroad tracks, usually they're smooth enough to go over at a speed above the posted limit, about 45 mph. Unfortunately, I was traveling at about twice that speed, and since it's a double track, I hit the first set and my front end launched upward, not enough for my tires to leave the road, but enough to take all the weight off of the front suspension. As I'm passing the second set of tracks, my front end slammed to the ground and hit hard, I mean really hard. I didn't think much of it until I noticed oil leaking later that day. Turns out, I i crushed the oil pan right under the drain plug and the metal cracked. It created about a quarter of an inch crack right at the edge of the reinforcement plate inside the oil pan. Basically, a small piece of metal welded inside the pan to allow the drain plug to thread in, the pan itself was relatively thin, like sheet metal. I acquired a new to me oil pan, cleaned it up, painted it, and replaced it for the original one. That was a learning experience considering I was in my early 20s and never did anything that involved before. It wouldn't have been so bad if I didn't have to drop the rack and pinion and lift the motor up to gain clearance to remove and replace the oil pan. But you live and learn, I learned to slow down over railroad tracks. 🤣😂

[@lisadan66]

Thanks for sharing Kenny

[@carlsbadidea8639]

Red Green could duct tape it in 5 minutes. Good as new!

[@iFixJunk]

W-O-W ! Never seen THAT before!

[@jthonn]

A little JB Weld, it will be good as new.

[@DS-ss7vl]

Yep. Drain the oil, clean it up with some brake clean and JB Weld that beeotch!

[@Jack-ns5mn]

@@DS-ss7vl That would probably work perfectly but the YoutTube wizards would not let you get away with it. Use a shop vac up top to prevent drips so the JB can set up.

[@ottopartz1]

​@@DS-ss7vlgive it a good sanding with some 120 grit to give the JB something to grip on to.

[@kevinbailey3665]

🔥that a fine crack

[@gadasavideos8564]

Why not have every vehicle with 2 part oil drain plug. Hex adapter threads into pan. It has female side that a hex plug threads into. So when removing you hold the adapter in the pan and remove plug. Careless cross threading means replacing adapter, not the pan, assuming you don't screw that up. But it's only in replacing adapter that pan threads are exposed

[@scottwhitcher265]

...or, like has worked for that 100 years, one could use some slight amount of care and attention to starting the threads straight and snug not overtighten- the plug...

[@lawrencecavens5760]

Looking at the close up you or I could also see a crack starting on the other side near the plug. So hopefully the client heeded your warning - But Yikes Yeah I sure wouldn't drive with a leak like that

[@richardtidd2738]

Good eye Kenny, time for a new oil pan. Excellent video .

[@GrifonJ]

Great eyes Kenny!

[@SeanBZA]

Definitely not the pitch drop experiment, and very likely a combination of the stressed metal from drawing, and a plug that likely was either cross threaded at some point, and sent home with an air gun, or just tightened to past GUTENTIGHT with an air impact.

[@woody95124]

I'll be darned! Good intelligent catch bud...

[@DavoShed]

Hope you get the chance to video fixing it.

[@RobS282]

drain the oil and jb weld it for the weekend or weld it , braise it

[@DaveGesswin-hl8ht]

Thanks again for your honesty They WILL grande that Engine from sure Stupidity.

[@kaitlynhelton4480]

Seen this once, I worked at a dealer on the lube side, watching one of the guys they hired in like hot cake cause they couldn't keep em, guy clearly blown out of his mind, take a impact and just ram the drain plug in, my first thought me and a buddy that's not gonna be good, well, that same Hyundai sonata came back later that day on a rollback, I was told to check it out for oil leak, well heck I done knew what happened, sure enough, stress crack in the pan right next to the plug🤦

[@vmtcmt]

Like bleeding, all leaks stop eventually.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Crack is bad to smoke. Crack is also bad for your oil pan.

[@dougjones9493]

Now Kenny you are showing your age with the double hump ford oil pan. I had a customer with a fleet that had those engines.

[@JimSix-jo6hf]

looks like the plug gasket is missing, probably the cause but a new pan is the only fix that I would do for a customer, any repair will just give you a liability nightmare

[@gueyg3764]

Someone been using a thermonuclear impact wrench to tighten drain plug?

[@kelvinrf]

Isn't this a good test for liquid weld or something similar. 👍

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Did they take it for the weekend? 🤔

[@rongraham1730]

Any impact mark to the shield that's in alignment with the oil plug? I could see a scenario where something impacted it but the felt covered shield would stop any actual marks from being on the oil pan🤷.

[@codyhess5713]

I'm a factory motorcycle tech and one of the guys came and said the stator I just replaced was leaking. Nope lol the case had been hit and cracked.

[@82_KID]

J-B Weld after the oil drains. It's a Kia.

[@mattbrown5511]

Tell that to my 2000 Sportage. It only has 250,000 miles on it. It is amazing what happens when one services their vehicle properly. Nice high horse by the way.

[@82_KID]

@@mattbrown5511 Your car is horrible lol

[@mattbrown5511]

@@82_KID And what is your car and the payment and the insurance, etc.? My little shitbox is perfect for disabled veteran living only on a VA disability check. Is that OK with you? Or am I taking too much money away from illegal aliens, Lefty?

[@bigbill709]

My guess would be yes overtightened oil plug. But who knows

[@taylorsvilletony773]

Unlikely unless someone put a larger sized self tapper in there.

[@DK-sc4gn]

Impact!!!

[@ginog5037]

Kenny, where was the oil changed last, and this covered under warranty??

[@timmatheny-lo9ze]

New cars are not made like the older cars. New cars are made cost effective?

[@tomking1890]

I had this happen to me once, but not that bad. I bought a new car, and now I bring my own torque wrench with me. Fords wants 20 Ft#, and that is what I torque it too. Never go to a quick change place. BAD IDEA.

[@robertrpenny]

Those Kia's and Hyundai's seem to have more than their share of unexplained problems. But of course somebody may have gone bananas on the drain plug and cracked the pan.

[@LA_Commander]

Maybe the aftermarket has a steel oil pan which would be better? Like the older Hondas had?

[@jonyoung6405]

You mean Dorman?

[@LA_Commander]

@@jonyoung6405 possibly, yes.

[@abw121]

Kia and Hyundai oil pans are famous for having oil pan cracks around the oil drain plug! Caused by over tightening of plug during oil change, bad techs! So when you go to dealership or fast change oil shops they give you a bigger nightmare. I had a 2011 Santa Fe and replaced the pan only for owner to return 6 months later after going to fast lube shop and she returned with a new leaking oil pan crack at the drain plug……this time it had blue RTV on crack to get owner out of the shop!

[@victorbellan8357]

Weld it up for a temporary job ?

[@peterharvey1762]

I wouldn’t drive it till I’ve replaced the sump pan or taken it back to KIA and get them to do it on warranty

[@brianloriaux5837]

It should be covered under warranty 10 years or 100,000 miles

[@moparnut6286]

I could clearly see the crack the oil pans on a lot of cars are made from recycled metal and lack the strength to hold up to repeated torque cycles... And or are very rust prone...on my own Hyundai sonata I had to replace the oil pan due to rust through.... I have cars that are over 50 yrs old with original pans and have never seen one rust through...sure stripped threads from some previous ham hand working on it but not fatigue failure... Sad state of today's quality control.

[@render8]

Perhaps too thin of a sheet metal stressing out from the forming process? Because you know the lighter the gauge sheet the cheaper it is too make... And it helps increase gas mileage...😂 Doesn't appear to have any signs of abuse

[@glennfields8121]

Hi Kenny, the first mistake on the part of the customer is that they bought a Kia Sorento. You have inspected well and caught the leak as it was happening and with your massive amount of experience, you could actually show us the crack where the oil is leaking from. It is time to park it, order a new oil pan and be done with it. If I was a real gambler (and I'm not), I might remove the oil pan, clean it thoroughly and JB Weld the crack but that is iffy as the entire engine is flexing under load and the crack could come back or even as you said crack like a piece of glass and it goes any distance it wants. Yes, the best possible solution is to park it on your lot there, order a new oil pan, install it and top off or change the oil, charge the customer accordingly and tell them that they can rest easy knowing that they had you as their technician and repair person. Life is good. Brother Kenny, Keep Wrenching and tell Mrs. Wrenching that I send my love and best wishes. Have a happy 4th of July holiday and just relax in the air conditioning. Why, because you deserve it!!

[@froggerman44]

Spot weld it?

[@paulloeffel7283]

Thinking the same thing but then he would have to garuntee the fix

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Had a ford that the hole pan was rotted and completely soft all over.

[@dondownriver3464]

weld it up and send it on its way.

[@patrickostrom2762]

The customer Lucky that they spotted leak! 😮 My engine making knocking noise and the oil leak stopped! Oil pan Vs Engine $$$ cost! Stress crack from over torqued drain plug my guess?? Had a friend susuki car ,had quickie lube Charlie's change oil stripped plug and hairline crack! Susuki no longer in USA! I repaired oversized drain plug and drain out over night and cleaned,sand crack ,brake clean & jb weld crack ! Hated doing that repair! No leak but a band aid! And get rid of rots of ruck mobile! Bad situation of last resort to make due! And if pan was plastic forget it ! R &R time Did some F ix Or Re place Daily pans ,Argh😢! Quickie lube Charlie's torque wrench over ft # torque and forgot the drain plug washer that was on plug! 😢$$$😮

[@haneyoakie14]

“Why is it cracking?” Would be my question. Hill hopping? Poor quality pan? New pan is the fix? Can’t weld it?

[@oldbiker9739]

next clip new oil pan and gaskets .

[@mattbrown5511]

A rental car is a lot cheaper than a replacement engine. Just my perspective.

[@stansbruv3169]

DEFINITELY over tightened.

[@dogdooley4495]

I wouldn't drive it. Replace the pan. Pans are cheap. That doesn't look like the OEM oil drain bolt.

[@joeventimiglia6326]

60,000 mile warrenty ????

[@crautoguy8384]

Wondering if the drain plug was replaced. In this day an age everything is suspect to corner cutting an poor tolerances bad metalergy. A lot of times I See people replacing the drain plug for every oil change not a bad idea but all it takes is having that Minor diameter of the thread Being off by a MIL OR 10-15 thow Even with the same thread pitch. Could have caused that My top 2 guesses. The automotive World is very DYI unfriendly these days. It takes an expert professional to know what parts to use or knot to use New doesn't mean good. If It has Dorman or standard Ignition Part# On it. Be careful. If its was mine I Would Let It drain all day And try to hot stitch that thing back together. Its already junk what's it gonna hurt just don't burn the car down.Or maybe For a friend or very good customer. But if I did that for a friend or a customer I would remove the PAN then weld it Only if there was no way to get a new one. And it was gonna ruin someone's vacation. But I wouldn't recommend that unless you were extremely confident and Competent. Oh and don't use adapt one remam calipers. Totally off subject but I think I should put it out to the professional automotive community . Inless you want to get sued. I put a set on a customer's car couple weeks ago and after bleeding the brakes went to stand on the pedal to make sure there was no leaks as i always do with any hydraulic repair And one of the calipers proceed to blow a piston Seal instait pedal drop Complete brake failure. Thank God it happened to me on the rack Before I even raod tested it but that's scary. sprayed brake fluid everywhere ruined the new pads. Sorry off-topic but parts aren't what they used to be great video.

[@frankiem749]

Just throw some flex seal or jb weld and good as new or even better 🤣🤣🤣🤣. No but seriously just tell the owner to rent a car if they really need to travel and leave the drip pan for repair.

[@SGT_Young]

Flex patch will fix it. 😉😂🤣🙀🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Is that a plastic oil pan? Too much plastic on the cars, now!

[@21psd]

Flex Seal! Phil Swift has entered the chat.

[@vicarod]

18yr old broke me would have driven it. 52yr old me? Nah...

[@XPFTP]

dont see why its not covered from kia. that is clearly not normal

[@michaelmartin2276]

Kia has a warranty and this car would likely still be on.

[@cliffyb5896]

Would be better for all of us if that thing wasn't dripping all over the road.

[@lowbudgetbob1155]

Mustangs had that dual sump oil pan. I can't say I've ever seen a pan crack like that.

[@greggc8088]

Doesn't Bar's have something for that? Or maybe some black pepper in the oil? 🤣🤣

[@DK-sc4gn]

That's a dumb ass recommendation!! Ruin the bearings and or gum up the entire motor!! Crack most likely from impact,250 ft. Lbs

[@greggc8088]

@@DK-sc4gn The comment was a joke not to be taken seriously. Lighten up.

[@cornishcat11]

@@DK-sc4gn whoosh.........

[@RussellBooth1977]

Perhaps weld the crack up in the oil pan to get the customer out of trouble. I wouldn't drive it if it's leaking that bad !

[@steveolive9991]

extremely difficult welding aluminum, especially when it is thin aluminum.

[@cornishcat11]

@@steveolive9991 and what has that got to do with this video? it is a steel pan

[@dennislyon5412]

Is this an appropriate application for spray foam? JK

[@markstanfield4345]

Flex tape 😂😂 lol

[@jthonn]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that stuff. They make a spray on too, I think. LOLL

[@davealexander1201]

Flex tape doesn't work for what they say, it's a joke.

[@jasonleatherwood2172]

Long as you check and add oil every trip and stop every 30 min to check snd add load up 50 quarts and head on vacation lol

[@Starchybugger]

JB weld it so they can use the car

[@bobby9195]

Thank you Mr Kenny, I hope the owner takes your advice and not drives it . But like you said it's not your call. I get that alot, just knowing something will get worse,but nobody pays it any mind yet when it really happens and breaks, guess who is the first person to hear about it. Im not an I told you so kinda person but lol dang😊 🤠

[@schifoso]

That oil must have a has a low platelet count.