DRAMA ALERT - Razer Viper V2 Pro Review

[@maddmethod5880]

as someone who bought the viper ultimate and really enjoyed it, and then bought the logitech g pro superlight and _really_ enjoyed that, I am LOVING the new viper v2 pro. its exactly what I wanted the viper ultimate to be.

[@kotrob6205]

Same here.

[@johndemeter3009]

same here x3

[@MisterMayhem17]

Lighter?

[@johndemeter3009]

@@MisterMayhem17 its perfect, i hate the grips in the ultimate... and 58 gr? damn.. & and the optical switches.. its just perfect... the pro is for pro players from esports... not for more things

[@boynextdoor931]

But, gprox superlight was just 5 or 4 grams lighter right? Is it really worth the price? I’m not asking cause I’m some douche, I’m asking cause I’m considering upgrading but not entirely sure.

[@defu8592]

I appreciate how you handled the uhh.. "drama" Much love to all the tech reviewers!

[@luckymark571]

The little hint of shade towards "you know who" at the end tho

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@luckymark571 I missed it. What shade?

[@luckymark571]

@@TheRealSkeletor He said at the end "If you like this mouse you don't know what your talking about" or something like that towards randomfrankp

[@Just_somecarguy]

@@TheRealSkeletor the youtuber is random frank p, he said at the end of the video "i will boldly say this if you are watching reviews other reviewers today and there not making it so obvious to you that this pro mouse is not pro at all for the price and they are giving you a glowing recommendation for $150 you know who is full of bs and who to unsubscribe to" that's what made drama over the mouse. Sorry if my grammar isn't good.

[@ThotsAndPrayers]

Much love to everyone except RandomFrankP who is a moron and has no idea what “pro” means.

[@homi1001]

Thank you for letting us know you are one of the real "KZbinrs" that care about their audience and not about the big companies sending them products. Please keep it that way.

[@lieutent2654]

I've actually watched several videos on this mouse and this is the first one that I felt like was a fresh take. I love the introduction as to how if feels in things like CS and Valorant.

[@luxthefox228]

Watch Randomfrankp he’s one of the best tech KZbinrs out there. If you liked this review I feel like you might like his. lol

[@lieutent2654]

@@luxthefox228 I liked rfp’s video specifically because he actually maimed the Viper Ultimate for a while before that.

[@pk.002]

I have the original Viper Ultimate with v2 switches and superglide glass feet. You can get the Viper Ultimate for $50-$60 with or without the dock used or renewed, and it's often on sale. I honestly need nothing else, it's the perfect weight, shape, and coating and with glass feet, it's even better. Edit: A USB-C adapter for it also exists for $10 USD (base price and shipping) so you can use any USB-C cable for charging. It's called encoo USB-C to Micro USB dongle for Razer Wireless Gaming Mice.

[@S_naptrap]

Gotta say, those superglides are the way to go. I had some hyperglide PTFE skates before putting on the superglides, and the glass is so much better. Not sure if you're supposed to be using the glass feet on a soft pad, but they feel really nice on my Firefly.

[@pk.002]

@@S_naptrap They're amazing, and I think it can be used on any pad kind except glass mousepads. I use mine on a GLIDE 38 which is a hybrid pad and they feel so great. I had to get used to that nearly absent friction but once I did, it was all good.

[@natemendoza9026]

don't glass feet wear out mousepads eventually, and slow down too? when'd you get your glass feet?

[@Yaxie]

@@natemendoza9026 they have a breaking point, and afterward, they do not get slower. You will need to keep your mousepad clean though as you will feel all the dirt and particles on your mousepad, which is annoying as hell.

[@pk.002]

@@natemendoza9026 I'm sure they do, but it's not anywhere like PTFE feet as far as I know. I've had mine for about a month and they feel as good as the day I installed them. The manufacturer claims that they are a "near-permanent" solution so I imagine they could be used for several years before needing a replacement.

[@ilkerYT]

I remember buying a Razer Mamba 5 years ago it was the best mouse that I could buy back then they still didnt changed they are still making the best mouse for me.Good Quality / Good Sensor / Beautifull design.

[@nodinodi5917]

True, I had the mamba for 10 years and switched to the viper v2 pro for a change lol

[@jakefromstatefarm2.045]

@@nodinodi5917 Liar

[@Frencho9]

At least Razer has much better build quality compared to Logitech, but still price gouging. Only bought my Orochi V2 on sale at 50 USD instead of 70 usd. Cuz that is what it's worth, add in 25 USD for a pack of 4 AAA pale blue rechargeable batteries (7g) and 5 USD for a pack of AAA to AA adapters and my mouse ended up costing 80 USD. I'm fine with it but at 70 usd Orochi V2 would have costed me 100 USD and it ain't worth that with a 3369 sensor!

[@8bitsamurai6]

@@Frencho9 Have you used a gpw or g303. Logitech is s teir with razor. I will say they def could used better switchis and type c but the engineering is top notch compared to cheaper brands. There are alor of solid and great wireless mice but I think gpwx and viper v2 pro are def top 2 imo. But to each their own. Not everyone can afford a 250 final mouse.

[@Frencho9]

@@8bitsamurai6 Screw that main button side play on the G Pro X Superlight and Micro USB (kill it with fire!) yet people pay up to 160$ for that! G Pro Superlight users are like Apple fanatics bragging about their 2016 apple MacBooks with butterfly switch keyboards that break all the time and so thin, light and quiet they are toasters constantly thermal throttling but hey those products are more a status symbol or whatever they come up with as a coping mechanism 🤣. Also honestly I don't like the shape much. As a clawer Orochi V2, Xtrify M42 or XM1/2 (too big now tough) gang me be!

[@FromDesertTown]

Just call it Viper Lite and no drama. Or call it Viper Air and enjoy the endless trolling from Apple fanboys who believe Apple invented the word air.

[@R0ZZAY]

We already had this conversation with the GPX and the sad reality is that people keep paying it so manufacturers will keep raising the price until consumers say that's enough the onus falls to the consumer to dictate what is acceptable

[@option_n]

just buy a black hyperx pulsfire haste.

[@Knubz]

The price will drop after a couple of weeks or months it's a good mouse if the price is under 130€

[@ecapsdira]

@@Knubz this is the big thing. logitech rarely puts their mice on sale but razer does, and they have to have the same MSRP to drive home it's the GPX competitor. overall razer isn't faultless but definitely more consumer friendly than logitech here.

[@geralt8394]

Its called supply and demand, gpx costs 150 because there is enough demand for it, razer can price their v2 pro 150 because thats the market price. The consumer's opinions alone could not dicatate the price of products.

[@R0ZZAY]

@@geralt8394 What are you trying to say? The consumers opinion of a product directly affects the demand.

[@adnan6758bbng]

People that cry over the price don’t know what it feels like to see scalper prices for a Starlight 12

[@AHoffTheRizzler]

Overpriced and I miss the dock, but so far loving the V2. The lighter weight is very nice, and I feel like the buttons (especially the side) are much better feeling when clicking them. Mouse scroll is still meh.

[@helloyu6270]

I feel like the dock (and all rechargeable mice) should just be Qi wireless charging by now.

[@yup5344]

when u want to buy the best tech possible product it is expected te be expensive, i mean the sensor and switch

[@kerotomas1]

The problem is that you can get the viper ultimate for half the price.

[@AHoffTheRizzler]

@@kerotomas1 if the $70 more is an issue I would just get the original.

[@Y0oUrMama]

The 2 side buttons that are missing is deal breaker for me plus u can get the ultimate for 70 at gamestop, this 140 really doesnt make sense at all

[@Divinity_vA]

Despite the improvement on the feet aka being bigger, *I'D LOVE* if all companies focus on making bigger feet/indents. With GPX/G303SE/Zowie/XM1 you can always put smaller feet if you want, but indents on most mice being so small we don't have the luxury of the vice versa, using bigger feet. I hate Xtrfy's tiny feet, i hate RVU small feet. Just do what Endgame gear did - make bigger indents. You get to choose between smaller feet of OG Xm1 or the bigger Zowie-like feet of the newer. I am pretty sure that you even get 1 big and 1 small pair inside the box.

[@DJaquithFL]

The XTRFY M42W has huge feet .. on the opposite my Finalmouse has 4 essentially dots. My GOAT is still GPX and I'm using this V2 Pro. I'd say it's more about your mouse pads' surface than the per se size of their feet. I prefer a hard surface in my instance. A solid aluminum core covered with PVC with PTFE or glass skates. There's never going to be a mouse that's going to suit every person's needs.

[@8bitsamurai6]

@@DJaquithFL well said to each their own. The gpx is also my goat but really like the vu aswell. Just opened my v2 pro thi cant wait to test. Really wish theyd make a viper minu ultimate and pro version. Such a great size and shape even for bigger hands. Just getting into pads. Any recommendations?

[@DJaquithFL]

@@8bitsamurai6 .. I play at what some people consider an insane DPI .. 5400 and all I play is CoD Hardcore. Hardcore is about the fastest 1st shot. That said there's a really good recent comparison of Artisan mousepads from a smaller YT'er .. Good Enough Tech Reviews and it's probably one of the best compare and contrast reviews I've seen. Artisan are a safe bet. I primarily like aluminum core PVC covered mouse pads. Examples Corsair M600, Razer Invicta Gaming Mouse Pad, Blade Hawks Gaming W Double-Sided Aluminum. None of them are for sale anymore. I have a Logitech G Powerplay Wireless Charging System pad still sitting in the box unopened, but it will wirelessly charge your GPX and it's still considered a hard surface pad or at least it's supposed to be. I'm getting ready to swap out a new keyboard and rewire my office so that's the reason still sitting in the box.

[@FahimAhmed-xj9lq]

This is an awesome mouse, but I would most definitely not buy it for $150.

[@jakefromstatefarm4131]

Can we get some love for the smaller reviewers? Some of them are GOATED when it comes to this topic. Fresh Reviews, Haus gaming, Chad alt delete, Hardware unplugged, Good enough tech reviews, Jaypher

[@1njustice]

Good list. Chad Alt Delete stands out as one of the most underrated YT'ers I've ever stumbled across.

[@jakefromstatefarm4131]

@@1njustice Agreed, his videos are insanely underrated.

[@onikrux]

Tbh..... I almost instantly grabbed one even at that price. But I wanted more of the same, better. Not this- less is more nonsense.

[@luckymark571]

Who else thought he was going to talk about the randomfrankp "drama"? Edit: Nvm he did a subtle mention of it...

[@DJaquithFL]

Reviewers need to focus on what are the best peripherals etc and let the audience, consumers, decide if it's worth the price. Pandering to people because of their reaction to prices and making excuses about it is a complete disservice. I have every good wireless mouse and too many wired and this new V2 Pro wireless is top tier, it's not my GOAT but it's close.

[@MP_7]

I'm also EXTREMELY disappointed with the new Viper. No more docking which I like very much and the ONLY improvement are the side buttons. And please stop with this weight focus, jesus christ is everyone having problems with mouse weight? I couldn't care less if a mouse mass is 50 or 60 or 70 grams! What? your hand hurts??? Give me a break. These companies nowadays have a race for weight like those peepee length competitions, mine is biggeeer! Here it's our new mouse is lighter 5g than yours! We improved the weight by 6 freaking grams from previous model!!! Like that is supposed to impress me! And to lower the mass they remove features, wow what a genius move! I was planning to buy it but there is no freaking way, and yes the price is way too high! Especially for people like me who already have the ultimate and like the docking. Razer ... big thumbs down! 👎👎👎

[@aidenfrost10]

This is absolutely disgusting tbh. Shouldn't be higher than $80 as randomfrankp said.

[@swizzler8053]

Hey. It's razer, so you be paying them razer taxes.

[@Gamingtechgg]

ufff I want the mouse mat :D

[@Voi1dwalk]

First time I see someone call mousepad mouse mat Btw it is the xtrfy gp5 I think

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

Why are all of the reviewers glossing over the texture on this mouse? Once I started using it, it was one of my favorite things about it. It's very similar to the cat's tongue roughness they use on hard plastic gun grips. Ignores sweat and provides good grip. They really dialed the texture in well to balance between how grippy it is and how abrasive it is for long sessions. It's right in the grippiest it can be without being too rough.

[@eggtech]

a much more 360 overview, appreciate the effort and the content

[@ADreamingTraveler]

I agree with weight not being much of an issue anymore. They can't make them much lighter than this and plus weight was always a personal preference for people anyway. I always liked the mice that let you adjust the weight of the mouse with included weights so you could get that perfect feel

[@skjor1989]

wow its like Orochi v2 and Viper ultimate had a child, I am definetly buying it. I just can't stand Viper Ultimate's extra features that is why it is not perfecly balance. I also don't like super light because I don't like the shape, I prefer Viper Ultiamte so I step backed and mained Orochi v2. Now finally Razer updated the viper ultimate without the mandatory placing a grip tape and without the charging dock feature that is really annoys me when gets dirty it can be picky on how oyu will place the mouse on the charging dock. Now it supports type c it will charge better and it may have a better performance while using the cable.

[@VietGuy03]

First, amazing review and quality content here. Secondly, well done handling drama. There's no need to be unprofessional if you don't agree with others and you just modeled how to be respectfully humble. Thank you so much for all you're hard work! 🙏👍

[@mattyn7029]

could you tell me what the drama is?

[@VietGuy03]

@@mattyn7029 there was a KZbinr that told his audience to unsubscribe from others if they gave this mouse a glowing review. It was a low blow to others and really unprofessional.

[@mattyn7029]

@@VietGuy03 damn😂 "if you follow me you aren't allowed to listen to anyone else's opinions" is a weird stance to take

[@luckymark571]

@@mattyn7029 It was randomfrankp lol

[@MrMarkiam]

$149 B.S. !

[@jortuspelatus7364]

Good guy Dmitri recommending other KZbinrs to get a more varied opinion on the product instead of shutting others off because they have a different opinion.

[@kodiak4u]

If Logitech can still charge $150 for g pro x then razer can charge this price as well. They are direct competitors.

[@kodiak4u]

@chink exterminator what to you makes it the better mouse?

[@carljohnson7]

The viper was my first true gaming mouse, but I went to a death adder v2 pro. I love it because of its shape

[@escapegulag4317]

I have the Roccat Burst Pro, Razer Deathadder V2 and Logitech G305. Personally I think that the shape of the Deathadder is a bit weird as it tilts your horizontal aim to the left, if gripped as intended by the company.

[@anargyroi]

The mouse is an overpriced downgrade of the ultimate. But Dmitri's channel can't be objective on Razer reviews, they're known Razer simps.

[@cecil_242]

people should be aware that popular tech brands are ripping you off. there are lesser known brands that offer peripherals with similar specs and experience for much less cost.

[@keonxd8918]

Give an example please

[@cecil_242]

​@@keonxd8918 Recently I've been using switching between two wireless mice, one is the Tecware EXO Wireless and the other being RAKK Talan Air (RAKK is an asian brand). While both only cost you around 40$ sometimes you can buy them even cheaper, imo they easily offer the same experience as a mouse from Glorious (yes I've tried a couple of glorious mice before). As for keyboards, customs built mech keyboards what i recommend the most. With little effort and research, you can easily build a 100$ mech keyboard that could fit your preferences (layout, sound profile, etc.). Hotswap keyboards nowadays are cheap some are selling around 40$ and yet they already offer multiple connectivity and have good sound dampening. As for switches, there are a lot of sellers that sell switches that are already lubed. Lubed Milky yellows for example sell around 20$ for 100 pieces. For keycaps there are as lot of choices and some sell really cheap but for a good set of cherry profile keycaps, you can find them at around 30-40$. And what keyboard does popular tech brands offer for 100$? Clicky rattly pingy garbage keyboards with ugly build and random useless features.

[@Frencho9]

About the price tag drama, Both the G Pro X Superlight and V2 Pro Viper are overpriced at 160/150 USD, they are cutting down on features and cost (less raw materials and production costs!) compared to the luxury originals. And in the case of GPRO X build quality is garbage to add insult to injury! Would you like to pay more for a consumer Sedan car that is lacking the entire AC system, the car interior lights, also the back seats and the charger outlet/port in the trunk because it is lighter for amateur street racing? SteelSeries is the worst cause they charge 130/140/150 USD for the Prime and Aerox 5/9 wireless mice and they have a 3335 BUDGET sensor and are bricks! The EndgameGear XM2 wireless at 120 USD is the only fair pricing for a top tier PRO Competitive mouse! Then 80 to 100 USD is fine for high end 3370 wireless mice like Xtrify M42/M4, Roccat Burst Pro Air, Pulsar Xlite V2, Fnatic bolt or Glorious mice as they don't have the latest sensors unlike XM2w, G Pro Superlight and Viper V2 Pro which should all cost 120 USD MAX! And these pricing considering the supply chain issues are fair, still margin for profits, but not enough for ripping off the consumer! And to be fair both Logitech and Razer have enough economies of scale to lower costs to 100-110 usd compared to small Endgame Gear who needs to sell at 120 (and the build quality of XM1r is better!)

[@Acheron2010]

I'd consider it, if they offered a lifetime guarantee/replacement.

[@IcarusTECH]

Why do I receive so many spam messages just from replies to your channel?!

[@RikiGuitarist]

The Razer Viper Mini is still the best Razer mouse for FPS, with the best price point. The wireless Viper Mini Pro will continue the trend of the best Razer FPS mouse with the best price point.

[@iagher]

Abrasive plastic O ring around the sensor, pretty rigid cable, below average clicks, heavy for it's size... If that's the best one, Razer has lot's too improve.

[@RikiGuitarist]

@@iagher Those are subjective flaws. No mouse is perfect. Optical switches will never feel as good as mechanical switches. Stock cables will never feels as good as custom paracord cables. The Viper Mini is ranked and sold right next to the Viper and other top gaming mice twice its price. Yes, Razer could and should improve the Viper Mini. But having room for improvement doesn't make something bad.

[@mp44christos]

You can find a gpx for 80 euro. So the viper v2 is way too expensive than anything other than finalmouse.

[@rubenjacome8252]

Used, so not a fair comparison Still i agree viper is way overpriced specially competing side by side with a mouse launched a year ago

[@mp44christos]

@@rubenjacome8252 not used. New. IE, the pink one was around 90 euro in Switzerland 1 month ago.

[@pirx9798]

You're right about the weight difference being noticeable. I notice it with my g pro vs superlight, It makes holding the mouse more natural and effortless. And I prefer razer's flatter shape. So I'd love this mouse if ambidextrous with no right side buttons wasn't such an annoying trend, because if you're used with doing important stuff in-game with them, then the use for such a mouse is rather limited. As it is, I'd rather get 2 more ultimates for the price of one of these, before everyone saves a few bucks on 2 switches and you can't get proper ambi mice anywhere.

[@caspar903]

I like how Dmitri was low-key going against RandomFrankP

[@nigel-uno]

Razer mice always fucking break. I tried 2 deathadders once from the original release and the "revamped" ones. Both scroll wheels failed.

[@poi24b3]

At least Viper 2 has USB-C charging, which is a huge wasted opportunity for Logi to not switching to it to its superlight mouse

[@QoraxAudio]

Yeah Razer saw that Logitech got away with their price hikes, so they were like: "Hey?! So we can charge more and consumers will just eat that crap up?" "Let's go price hikeee!"

[@danielbarakat]

I was a bit taken back when randomfrankp said to unsubscribe from channels if they give this thing a positive review. That seemed out of place

[@kumaSOevl]

That’s odd of him to say that. With that being said I believe he is more bias toward the basilisk mouse type.

[@wa1NNN]

I just dont get it why lot of people comparing the price for the razer viper ultimate now since its an older model of course its cheaper

[@ShawnYT]

so its okay for logitech to do it but when its razer there is a problem ?

[@nolo2jz814]

my guy, PLEASE ANSWER ME, what resolution did you use in that cs:go clip at 2:55 ???

[@nbimc]

i dont like what RFP said. they have a sensor thats 2 years ahead, i agree 150 is too much but his price of "79" is also too low i think 100 to 120 is the perfect sweet spot for this mouse

[@horvisnone4997]

Like this gaming mouse looks good. Its price also corresponds to this, which is much higher than I think. But I wonder how it is with accuracy and aiming in shooters? And how are headshots distributed with her? What about its longevity and quality? So far I'm using this gaming mouse: Hama uRage Reaper neo sensitivity 3200 DPI

[@geralt8394]

Just buy the viper ultimate if you want features, the viper v2 pro is for competitive gaming. The sheer engineering to get the mouse down to 58 grams with proper weight balance and the build quality as well as the novelty that comes with being the lightest gaming mouse avaible to the generel public. The people who are bashing razer for this are the same people who was praising logitech when the superlight came out, their whole argument is based on fallacies wheter they like it or not.

[@ShinobiYourHomie]

You didn't bring up how the Optical Sensor is two generations ahead of all the competition. 3950 in the RV2 and 3370 in all of those competitors.

[@autojetfx]

What is the name of mouse mat ? @3:20 and where to get one. Thanks

[@TheShapeshifter]

At this point, I just want Razer to make a Viper mini wireless.

[@蛇王-y9b]

have you send him a message ? seems like you already got the first place

[@Blackmark52]

*"No RGB, means no Synapse necessary."* Synapse controls mouse button customization and profiles. Chroma controls RGB across devices. Thanks at least for letting Southpaws know that we've been ignored again.

[@techquad1151]

BAD MICE! i have never seen a 30k dpi, but its so slow on max dpi SETTINGS. i must tune it with windows as all my other 4 mices has no problems, feels like a 9k dpi and the wireless works under 0.5 meter? its like 1999. for the rest: The plastic is fantastic super shitt. The side buttons sounds like horseshitt and the sidebuttons sound bad and the other one worse. The main left and right buttons are slower than a old train -to press fast is not possible. QOS i never like Razor and now i never ever try agin. OMG 1/10 at max speed settings 30.000 in Synapse is slover than any 12 k mice? SHAME but the worst must ofc be the range ? LOL LOL LOL wtf this mice im not going to return, im going to burn it on youtube live! i guess i stick toi my 20 dollar wireles 80 grams from Ziyoukang LOl its much better im not joking, and for my gaming i guess i keep booth Xtrfy and even ,my old rats. viper v2 is just wasting earth resources

[@superpyrojesus]

it's really not worth it I'm returning mine already

[@3htthexy]

Reviewers are missing this because they dont use it long enough, but the viper v2 pro has dongle issues and it will just die on you randomly. mine died in less than 2 months. its everywhere. If you google 'viper v2 pro dongle issue', a ludicrous amount of people have been having their dongles die for over a year. its way too common a problem to hope that it wont happen to you. Dont buy this mouse unless you want to be stuck paying $20 every 2 months to buy a replacement dongle after your warranty expires.

[@HelloSnake]

I have a Logitech that got double clicking after 14 months, so I wanted something with optical switches. Rtings said this is the best mouse you can buy, and it was $50 off so I ordered it.

[@megasanjay]

Got the v2 pro today since my viper ultimate has trouble charging on the dock. Played some valorant with it already. I’m loving what I feel. Shape seems identical to the ultimate. And you for sure feel the weight difference. I use it on a firefly hard mouse pad and the tracking and smoothness is perfect. I’m glad I upgraded.

[@akshithnair578]

Yo where'd you get it from if you're in India, I can't find it anywhere :/ also the charging dock is really unreliable on my ultimate too

[@megasanjay]

@@akshithnair578 I got it from Best Buy. I’m in California

[@akshithnair578]

@@megasanjay ah damn

[@meo6531]

@@akshithnair578 Time to fly US and be Indian American.

[@KLGChaos]

I just got the Viper Ultimate for $30 and Basilisk Ultimate with dock on sale for $70. Not going to pay $150 for the V2 Pro when I got 2 great mice for less. I don't game professionally, so not going to stress it out. Viper Ultimate for fps, Basilisk Ultimate for others.

[@michaelherman3367]

Thank you for actually reviewing the mouse vs complaining about the price the entire video! While, sure, Razer could have probably charged a bit less, at the end of the day it is the consumer who makes the decision to spend their money. Besides, a year from now there will be good discounts anyway, and this review will actually help them determine if it is a good product 👍

[@TechSpaceYT]

The price is steep for sure, but same for Logi. Just started testing it and compare it to the Viper Ult, and I have to say that I really don't miss the side grips as I thought initially. Also, the lack of RGB is a good thing for me as the battery life won't be affected :)

[@michaelthompson9798]

tbh, the Ultimate you get the bonus dock and turning off rgb was an option to get better battery life than the Pro V2. I would have loved to hear you state Razer “reduce the price by $70” (not like $10 in the audio) hehe 🤭 as the Razers Ultimate is the key competitor to the Viper V2 Pro 👍🤩 at a much better price and feature set. I’d personally spend the extra $30-40 for the Finalmouse Starlight which offers a much lighter frame, unique body material, vg battery life than the Pro V2. While I agree the V2 Pro is a nice mouse, it’s not worth anywhere near its currents price…. Just a cash grab 🤬🤕! The Superlight by Logitech too is way overpriced to justify.

[@dodoe5558]

can u review mouse name Loga kirin PRO

[@SilentRito]

you guys remember when mice and keyboards used to have a sensible price of $50-$80 ? what the tf happened ?

[@Baxtexx]

They are still available.

[@stefan7848]

symm 2 is much cheaper and same weight

[@tinfoilhatswork746]

Razer RMA support for Canadians is terrible. The Agents don't read, ask the same questions over despite being answered and when they finally determine your product is defective, their advanced replacement option is in USD. When I asked them how much the hold would be, they quoted the price on the invoice without looking at the fact my invoice had other transactions on it. Another agent responded saying I'd only have to pay the MSRP for my device when I bought it at 91.99 (after Tax). I ended up accepting the advanced repair option - AFTER being ensured it wouldn't be any more than I paid for the controller, I accepted the advanced repair service. On receiving the information for the hold, they had the total price of 91.99 in USD, which is about 115-120 CAD. I've done Cell phone tech support & RMA before so I understand some of the possible issues, however it's ridiculous that I'd let them take a hold for 35 dollars more than I actually paid for the device. Even with the higher price of cell phones, we only held a fraction of the device price. For those curious, it was a wolverine v2 controller and it failed after 6 months with one of the buttons just not accepting input. I enjoyed the controller while it lasted but between the terrible support, ridiculous RMA options and a product that broke in half the time of the warranty, I'll never buy another Razer product. This mouse may be nice but where you guys are fellow Canadians, I figured other Canadians might benefit from this information as warranty service can often be a factor in making purchases. Corsair support was amazing. I broke the bracket for the H115i pump and they shipped out a whole new set of brackets for any chipset - Free. I also had 2 led strips fail and instead of asking me to send in the defective strips, they just sent out another package of 4 strips, leaving me with 2 extra. Amazing RMA support from Corsair especially considering the strips cost almost as much as the Razer controller I had go defective. Step up your game Razer.

[@8bittDante]

Thank you so much for the review, it was unbiased and really helpful. I've noticed most of the issues come with the price, but I guess if you can pick it up on sale it's a good FPS mouse option. I recently picked it up for 99 usd, I was looking for a lightweight FPS focused mouse with a USB charging port. I'm excited to test it out when it comes in, in Ow, Valorant and League.

[@a.r.1611]

At this point - the GPX if you prefer the Logitech shape, the Viper V2 if you prefer the Razer shape. I wanted to love the Razer shape, but for me the Logitech was just more comfortable.

[@sogan754]

"It's just nine grams heavier but it's almost half of the price." is such an invalid argument. Sir, if that nine grams extra makes me uncomfortable, I can't choose it just because it's half of the price. I'm gonna look for which will do the job for me. Would you be happy with the $60 you just saved while the mouse you're using feels heavier than you want it to be? You will use it for years. The first concern must be the comfort and what you're looking for. You're saying such things like "it's not worth giving that money for that less weight", but there is no conclusion you come up with. What should I end up doing at the end of the day, tell me? Razer will do the job for me but you don't want me to buy it, well I can't buy the other one also because it's heavier than I want, so should I just leave without buying none of these? LOL. I still need a freakin mouse, hello? I'm gonna pay that extra money in that case, thanks. I saw a video today where a guy telling "The Superlight 2 fixes these issues with the Superlight 1, and there are these things that are good, but they also added those things which increase the money for no reason, so don't buy it." BROOO, I mean why shouldn't I buy a thing when it has almost all the features I need just because it has also other unnecessary things that increase the price? Do I have another option? Unnecessary things wouldn't hurt me if they don't affect anything after all. They increase the money unnecessarily, but what can I do in this case and why would I miss all the features I want the mouse includes?

[@outlawdaddycool]

I have the original viper and holy shit I loved it at first but the thing eventually turned into an absolute pile of shit. Mouse would randomly disconnect, side grips pretty much melted/scraped off, side buttons stopped working and synapse fucking sucksss and overall compared to LOGI it will never come close. If you want real advice never buy a razer garbage they build them to break.

[@thiennguyen9747]

As a razer fan since 2013, i am willing to donate $150 in stead of buying this Razer Viper V2 Pro my wish is Razer will complete Synapse 🤣 razer act like they are Apple of the gaming peripheral, but Synapse is a piece of trash 🤣

[@mjkl614]

$149, thank you but no thank you….

[@milkywayxd1803]

Wait on the endgame xm2w mouse ya razer need to lower it or it’s not going to sell

[@necmiozguven7092]

I have no sympathy for companies making ambidextrous mouses only for right hand people. I have the viper ultimate which i upgraded from deathadder left hand edition and the only reason i bought it was there is no left hand mouse on the market right now. Why would someone buy ambidextrious mouse if it can not be used both hands? They are missing the point i think..

[@Manakuski]

They need to make the viper mini V2 as wireless please. I love the original Viper ultimate, but my hands are just too small, i need the viper mini as wireless... I just hate wires. Currently on ROG Keris wired, just because my aim sucks on the viper ultimate due to my hands being too small. I just can't get a good grip of it.

[@蛇王-y9b]

just get Model D minus wireless , you won't regret it

[@Manakuski]

@@蛇王-y9b already got a G Pro X Superlight, was for 90€ on sale (150€ regular price) and i am happy with it. Something about the hump makes it work with my small hand. I used to have a g pro wireless for a long time.

[@蛇王-y9b]

@@Manakuski but that one is not ergo type . and the side button are way easier to miss touch

[@o_oyash]

I have a habit of throwing my arm up when I rage and sometimes I hold my mouse in my hand in the air but with the viper it’s like Im lifting up air. I don’t feel/notice it. I just get so impressed with the lightness I forget why I’m even raging 😂

[@downundergarage6968]

The side buttons were a big pain on original viper. I couldn't stand them so switched to mini.

[@sparzardv2307]

If anything... this makes the previous model that much more desirable if you can get it at almost half the price, and have it include so much more features. However, this mouse is for a specific enthusiast that will find value in it. I'm absolutely not it, but it made me value the older tech more.

[@greyrat_]

No dock is the put off for me.

[@Niels_f2704]

The only good thing this has over Logitech is that it’s USB-C. I’m not even buying products that aren’t USB-C anymore in 2022.

[@JustusS2036]

160€ in germany. 150€ no problem. I don´t think I will pay 160€. Not that 10€ is a big deal but 150€ might be my cut off.

[@Cimlite]

The price is ridiculous. Do not pay this much for mice, people. Please. 🙏 They're dirt cheap to manufacture, and _shouldn't_ cost this much.

[@DarkP1]

this is a mouse that's gonna be 50% on black friday that's why is so expensive

[@mybodyisready1]

If they're going to lower to price of the v2 pro to $99, this will be the best wireless mouse in the market 2022

[@kerotomas1]

They won’t

[@x3m9x]

The only reasonable price they would drop to is 120, thats what I feel when i use it

[@laumichael1038]

So I bought a death vaper to get rid of the orochi V2 big hand nightmare. Simply as I am, I just need a mice which can fit my 19cm hand.

[@nembsuuw4761]

I'll never consider using razer again, had a few razer nagas break right after warranty ended. Premium price but scuffed quality.

[@Lawandfun]

Makes no sense to use g pro x UVP price. U can buy the superlight for 100 euro / dollar. Thats the real price in 2022. Everything like 150 is bullshit. End of 2020 - superlight was a banger and price was high, but made a lot of sense. Mai 2022 - razer v2 pro is nice, but overpriced and its not a game changer anymore. Mice market changed way to much last 2 years. Razer was just to late for that move.

[@YoloVib3s]

this mouse would be ideal if i were $119 idealy ... $149 for a lot less then the previous model which is retailing for sub $100 is crazy

[@aeisbaer8042]

I mean "much less" is kind of dependent on who uses it: For me 16 grams lighter is much more useful than RGB or a dock

[@joejoe5921]

Every change to me is an upgrade.

[@yeysbaws]

This is like a downgrade, why would anyone like that? Weight is not everything when it comes to mouse, it's SHAPE!

[@mixmaster2000]

Why is any Razor products are overhyped by Hardware Canucks on reviews. Compared to other products which are very simplest.

[@weeeliko4567]

Really enjoyed the review by starlord.

[@TheTechne]

Well said

[@Idk-cz9ms]

I’m about to sell my old viper ultimate and i think I’ll go with the g pro the ergonomics are great in the ultimate but I’m bored of it

[@chopbrochero9432]

🚫🚫🚫⚠⚠⚠Razer Viper V2 Pro HyperSpeed ⚠⚠⚠🚫🚫🚫 con tan solo 3 meses de comprado el mouse tiene problemas con la rueda de desplazamiento (segun la marca tiene 2 años de garantia. Lo compre por amazon desde colombia y la marca dice que la política de reemplazo no aplica para Latinoamérica. )

[@anonimuso]

Don't see what the drama is. If a company releases a product you think is too expensive, don't buy it.

[@fluphybunny930]

It is over priced. People are stupid so they will pay it. Companies will continue to charge stupid prices.

[@scouy]

Nothing is "future proof" those words are thrown around to much lol. Future compatible maybe.

[@frezieduh3457]

i think i agree with randomfrankp that most ppl might want to buy the original for half the price and it comes with a dock. its just confusing that they take away features but dont lower the price

[@joejoe5921]

To understand it, you need to understand what competitive shooter at highest level is about.

[@frezieduh3457]

@@joejoe5921 that's very true and I'm not that demo so it's not for me I guess

[@Zidakuh]

What abou Rocket Jump Ninja? I think he is plenty qualified to talk about mice at this point.

[@notexactlyrocketscience]

rtx 4080, sony xm5 with a nice fiio pro, elite 2 controller and now the viper 2 pro to round it off

[@roneeh7332]

5:04 actual testing from other reviewers says otherwise. G pro X superlight has better battery life than RVU V2, unless you are only basing it on the 70 and 80 hours specs listed by the companies.

[@B0Sajwah]

Just buy the logitech G305, literally *dirt cheap* with 0 compromises on performance